Welcome to whatever we are now! A thread to discuss Henya, Kson, NOVA/UNIVOLT, VOMS Project, and a few of their friends.
Former [REDACTED] members:
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou / https://www.youtube.com/c/ksonONAIR
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
/voms/ - VOMS Project, and former members
- Hikasa Tomoshika (TMSK): https://www.youtube.com/@tomoshikahikasa
- Haneuzu Miuneru: https://www.youtube.com/@Miuneru
- Daimonji Ryugon (DMJ): https://www.youtube.com/@ryugondaimonji
- Zengaku Sanparo: https://www.youtube.com/@Sanparo_Z
- Uemine Noruju: https://www.youtube.com/@UemineNoruju
- Michimata Batoya: https://www.youtube.com/@Batoya_
Related:
- Schedule: https://kson-schedule.com/
- Amemiya Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
- Ebosi (Formerly Jitomi Monoe): https://www.youtube.com/@ebosi
- Jitomi Monoe Archive: https://www.youtube.com/@jitomimonoearchiveteam5446
- Amano Pikamee Archive: https://archive.ragtag.moe/channel/UCajhBT4nMrg3DLS-bLL2RCg
>>102488785 (OP)Hell yeah never leave out novas
A cold realization just hit me:
Hestia never got a new model and now won't get her birthday merch either. Not even a tiny 3D
>>102488975>Not even a tiny 3DThis makes me angry.
>>102488975Fuck man
the More I think about the novas I get more sad
>>102488975Nagi didn't even get her 3d done...
>>102488975Kson has done her own merch runs before. She might be able to help the NOVAs out if any of them have any desire or ability to make new merch.
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>>102489374I want to give Hotaru a hug and tell her it will be alright.
>>102489374This hag needs some comfort
>>102488785 (OP)Oops, I should have added:
Previous Thread:
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>>102489424What hurts is thinking that of all of them, Hotaru could very well give up the vtubing dream and continue with her hobbies in other ways.
Feels bad for Peke, on a vacation and suddenly has to worry about her future
The NOVAs took off their VShojo stuff from their profile.
>>102489374peke responding while on vacation
Nagi, Hestia and Peke removed vshojo mentions from their twitter,
Novas are out too. Let's hope for the best.
i think vshojo jp had a meeting and this is the result
Honest question, how did it feel getting the news? Did you expect it, or the massive fallout? It feels surreal that vshojo is over in less than a day
>>102490433Hopefully that It's just NOVA now I don't want them to graduate
rebrand incoming. Hope the JP staff remains intact except for the ex-holo guy
>>102490521>rebrand incoming.i doubt that
>>102490521Yeah, rebrand is mandatory at this point. Just pray that they don't get bought out by Brave Group.
>>102490497My honest reaction was like oh shit Mouse left
Then I read up the reason and I was like OH FUCK gg vshojo
but I was ok I know that the girls are land on their feet the only concern I have is the Novas but I think Kson will take care of them
>>102490497Honest? I never thought that VShojo's business was going to be sustainable.
>Headcount is way too high, overpaying wages with little results to show.>Doesn't own the IPs, no income from streams.>Lets its members do merch outside the group.>Trying to recruit 2 views and spread out the viewership.I expected it to blow up eventually. I'm just hoping that a new org can be formed from Nova, Henya and kson.
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>>102490521Something I noticed is that he has a date not present, so he's out
Lol Hotaru, Peke, and Hestia changed it to Nova only while Nagi here just erased everything my smol brain baby
>>102490497i just randomly saw an ironmouse video on youtube in my recommended with her leaving.
that's how i found out
>>102490763Yea he's out, left or fired in July.
>>102490643what else can they do? NOVA has UNIVOLT UMG contract. Kson and Henya has the same manager. Loutlot has the grasp of how to run a small company just rebrand
and JP has no issues to begin with.
Hotaru also removed her vshojo stuff
>>102490763fuck my screenshot is getting yeeted all over the place. but
if so then it would be good for the remaining staffs, i just want HighGai, Mamane, Ryo and Loutlot to run a small company in Japan
At this point I just hope none of the other girls were scammed out of money.
>>102490664>>102490724The unique situation of them keeping their models and rights means that we got the equally unique death of everybody in the corpo essentially leaving at once. As horrible as it is to see things go aflame like this, it's a bit beautiful to see how everyone dropped the company together like this.
>>102490831They'll need more backing to survive in Japan.
>>102490831running a company takes money.
vshojo jp just can't really go on unless they have henya and kson paying the bills. . simple as that.
>and JP has no issues to begin with.if you ignore them hiring a guy the doxxed them
>>102491001The side effect of this is that vtuber corpos that are like this are forever done after this. It would be the battle between mythic type agencies against cover and anycolor.
>>102490497>...how did it feel getting the news?My oshi is Kson and she'll be fine, so I didn't feel much initially. It sucks when people are shitty and scammy, but I only thought "Oh. Huh. Lawsuit time."
I'm grateful that VShojo meant Kson and Pikamee could stay in touch, and I think the NOVAs are cute and cool. I do feel bad for them, and wish it all goes well somehow, but that feeling came after.
>Did you expect it?I don't pay attention enough to have expected anything and I have zero investment in any company. I guess like
>>102490724 I didn't expect them to survive. Their business model seemed so different from other corpos that it was either a "brilliant" different or a "stupid" different, and that tends to shake out one direction more often than the other.
>>102490497Absolute rage. Stealing from charity is one of the lowest things a person can do. Gunrun will burn.
>>102491130Like people said unless Nova is on YouTube, they will never ever get big in Japan having money or not
>>102491014Loutlot is well-known in japan. He even has a connection with Maid'dreamin owner a maid cafe. Got a UMG deal. they should be fine
>>102491130>2024: hiring a guy that has a bad repIt all went to shit. Classic
>Henya has been asking Gunrun where her 100 Bitcoins are
>100 Bitcoins are worth 116,925.50
What did she know and for how long did she know?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBxw80mZoWI
>I'll be on Vshojo Group Discord on JST21:00
huh
>>102491538Henry the Evil Genius
>>102491357They'll need more than that. Way more than that. All of the NOVAs would have to move platforms to YouTube as well. Brave is probably salivating at this opportunity.
>>102491625Anon. voms even survived.
With JP having Kson, Henya and NOVA. it would be fine. its not like english viewers like us will leave.
>>102491597>Most of VShojo: "Mouse said what she said, but I can't say more.">Kson: "Pistols at dawn, motherfucker."
Can anyone check linkedin for loutlot (koshi makino) to see if he has left?
>>102490724Merch as a profit center can work. But not while being so bad at it. The way they did it never could provide good cashflow.
And with all the tariffs and general economic uncertainty, I also thought it's going to be really tough for them to keep doing what they were doing.
>>102491625loutlot can't do much worse than gyari-san imo
>>102491865
>>102491876Kson probably just had an amongus style emergency meeting
hence why all the novas and Henya removed their stuff
>>102492188i dont have a premium Linkedin. can't see shit kek
>>102491876She has been waiting for this day to come kek
>>102492197They needed to specialize in merch and open their services up to everyone including indies. Only that would give them the scale needed to keep costs down.
>>102492188Still present.
>>102491876>Peke retweeted the Kson tweet.>>102491990Peke is ready too
>>102491597shit, better get some sleep before it starts
>>102492314>didn't get invited to the secret Kshojo usenet newsgroupngmi
>>102491865Voms...gyari-san is the one doing pretty much everything himself.
Hopefully they find the funding/branding backing they'll need to keep things running.
>>102492765one of the reasons Pika left is because Gyari just couldn't provide enough support
>>102492765that's why ex-VhojoJP is gonna be fine. if they decide to stay together.
>>102492911kson and henya will be fine
nova girls are probably panicking right now with kson trying to reassure them
it also really sucks that gumrun never had any intention of paying back henya's 100 bitcoin tho
kson looks like she doesn't know, that would be kind of grim for the chances of jp sticking together and doing a rebrand. It means there are no plans going into this.
>>102493256100 bitcoin is like 10 million dollars
>About to get in bed.
>Suddenly more shit.
Unrelated to this place, but board will continue to be fast. GNMFs, take care of the thread.
>>102489712kys thread shitter
I trust kson to take care of the girls (I hope)
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Hotaru cancelled her stream.
Also removed the VShojo stuff.
>>102495388kson will likely be the only stream
>>102495694>>102495694Are there even people left in the company to answer her questions? Other managers made it seem like they are all out and the corpo has been emptied out.
>>102495694>>102495897If people at JP are also part of the stream, that would at least invite some kind of rebrand attempt. No loutlot or anybody? Then its all fucked
Part of me wishes to see loutlot schizotweet in anger, in truth
>>102495897>>102496155It's at a pretty awkward time for anyone in VShojo North America. Something like 8:00am EDT, 5:00am on the west coast.
IMO at best we get Loutlot.
>>102496155Hopefully loutlot gets on stream and cuts ties with en. Otherwise it's over.
Hot damn. Even Snazzy Nazzy took the "VShojo Graduate" off of her Twitter.
>>102488785 (OP)Back to point zero I guess.
Everything is going to be alright. It's just theatrics
>>102497663She's mad holy
>>102497663Sonch already fought and survived a bigger battle. So she's ready to go for blood at first chance.
>>102488975I was waiting for Peke's bday merch too. guess that's out
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Henya's discord message.
>>102498698Stream is 1 hour later than the usual start time.
>>102498698This could be a bit of hope or the saddest news we get.
>>102498800>>102498698How bad would it be if she stopped? Her fanbase is one of the most dedicated
>>102497663She probably feels a sense of duty, as the most senior JP member, to get in management's face about injustice. Also it's nothing compared to what she faced in the past, and VShojo management knows that.
>>102498979I doubt she would stop streaming.
>>102498979Won't happen. Vtubing is her bread and her life.
>>102498979nigga go back jesus christ
>>102499093>Henya>get in 'anyone' facego back
>>102499359Anon maybe you should actually open your eyes and lookt at what was replied to.
>>102499359Check the post that I was responding to :^)
>>102498979Streaming is literally her lifeblood. She's repeatedly said she wanted to do it until she's senile. And it's not like she isn't used to changing scenery.
Never let Henya play Subnautica again, that shit is cursed
>>102499620Now that you mention it, holy shit. Guess this playthrough isn't gonna be finished as well...
>>102499414my bad I'm retarded
The only person I feel bad are Nagi and Hestia. Because they the youngest ones who never experienced how ugly corporate entertainment can be. I hope this will not affect Nagi especially she seems the most jolly.
>>102499940Her brain cannot comprehend too much information man I feel bad for her
>>102499940Need to hold my baby and tell her everything's going to be OK
hopefully the kson stream we'll have some directions on the JP side of things, Henya and Nova.
im pretty sure you can't say to much things explicitly especially in a legal proceeding.
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I think jp is over too, this is the nova dude
If Vshojo as a whole does implode, I wonder what Henya will do when it comes to managing her brand. Like, she clearly needs a manager to help set her up with merch and what not, but what options does she have to actually get one (besides hiring one herself, which seems unlikely)?
>>102501088Why is it unlikely? Just tell Mamane to keep doing what she was already doing, but with Henya paying her
>>102501088her and kson are tied together
>>102501088Mamane does things for Henya already though?
>>102501088Nigga who the fuck do you think manages her career from all these years? Do you think there's an actual ghost signing those contracts? Her mom is her agent, always has been.
Can I offer you a peanut in these trying times?
>>102501088UTA and Mamane
All that loutlot sadposting makes sense now
>>102502617>ryo + higai yeah it's over for
>>102502617Guess they just threw everyone out now that the cat is out of the bag? All the EN managers are gone aswell from what I saw on 8.
>>102502825Well it's no use to keep them employed. The brand is dead, every talent is intending to leave and I don't think staff wants to stay anyways. Even if they are still employed due to contractual reasons they'd have nothing to do.
>>102502825For reference, were the 8 threads as fast as the ones here when shit hit the fan? Curious
>>102503259I want to cry man
>>102503318I'm hoping hard that at least some of the girls group up so they don't fully lose support.
>>102503139I know it was pretty obvious this is the end but I expected some kind of statement and then they close down.
>>102501008They are all employed and paid by VShojo proper and not JP, kinda makes sense that they are all getting fired if the HQ goes down.
What's unknown is whether a new org or group would rise from this and take on some of the capable staff.
>we're gonna miss out on a kino kson random gaming stream and have it replaced with a drama stream instead
fuck you gunrun
>>102503501with how slow thing move in Japan contrary to the west, I think jp will not change a bit after few months. You don't just get rid of a company like that mid year in Japan.
>>102503647She is playing the greatest kusoge: real life
>>102503251No one really uses the catalog there for bait threads like here. The vsj thread there had like 700 posts from the beginning of the end to now.
>>102503259Loutlot-sama, save the girls
>>102503764You should first pray that he isn't in it with gunrun. Wait for kson's stream.
>>102503764Don't saviorize anyone until we get an answer
>>102503963think he was the one that responded to Kson but Kson wanted Gunrun's explanation the most. Hence, the tweet.
>>102504387Probably. Judging from the other interviews she did with loutlot, he's rather too honest about facts but also his opinion.
We'll see later I guess, but I don't see a reason why Gunrun would appear. It's basically a public execution at this point, and there is little that can redeem the situation. Fans deserve the truth, but there is no incentive for the truth to be told.
>>102504590I doubt that he also has access or knowledge about the money tho. so there's no reason for him to be involved in that shit.
Yep only Gunrun now is the one who is scared to post anything. It's definitely, 100%, no doubt that it's him
>>102504872Even if it wasn't him "directly", being at the top, this kind of shit falls on him.
>>102505061Handling 2 companies at the same time. Where does time and involvement in management go with it.
>explaining my situation and my future plans / !tts / !game / !discord / !vod / !fanbox / (TTS OFF)
She removed the vshojo section from her channel but still includes "a vshojo member" in the about me section as well as the gfuel and infinikey ads.
On the bright side, we won't be forced to listen to constant TTS's shilling gfuel anymore.
>>102505283TTS will shill gamersupps then. kek
>>102505379Repetition is the soul of comedy. If it's not funny now, it'll surely be funnier the next time they say it.
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Nagi tan....Everything is ~~fine~~
>>102505445she just wants many many money T.T
>>102505445I could laugh at all of this if not for Nova.
>>102505445She doesn't have money to buy guns anymore
>>102505283>gfuel and infinikey adsEven Ama still has the vshojo trademark on her ads/merch, probably contract-related stuff
>in the about me sectiongenius, please understand She'll probably remove it eventually, most likely missed it
>>102508435look, she was probably as prepared as she could be since she was way closer to Mouse this year and wasn't intending to stream after announcement.
kson wasn't prepared, but will be fine too: not her first ride, and even not the worst.
Novas are biggest question
>>102508435Don't be. She is lit the most sought after talent right now. Most people would suck half shibuya peepees to get her.
>>102508435Henya will be fine, she just needs to find help with backend stuff which shouldn't be that difficult.
>>102508435She's a full grown adult, she's stronger than you think
The fuck did I just wake up to
>>102508435Luckily she shares the same manager with Kson. Mamane is a chad btw.
>>102508847Vshojo is dead sonny
>>102508847Go back to sleep, anon.
I was grinding MOP classic for 10 hours since launch. What the fuck happened ?????????
>>102509307Simply put, i
>>102509077t's over, for real this time
>>102509077Forever sleep?
>>102488785 (OP)>Former [REDACTED] memberskek
>>102488785 (OP)Given it's now listed as Former [REDACTED] members, shouldn't Nazuna go up alongside the others since she is a former [REDACTED] member
I was looking forward to that kusoge stream...
>>102511419the ''redacted'' was to not get uninvited guests by looking in the search bar I presume
>>102511419No. Nobody likes her.
I really fucking hope Henya didn't get scammed out of her bunny merch money
>>102512842Her mom handles everything.
>>102512905Not if she hasn't been paid yet
>>102512842That's only a problem if she invested her own pocket money in it (which I doubt). If not that it is what it is.
>>102513001It is a problem if she was contractually obligated to any cut.
>>102512842I would assume that a lot of Henya's money got stolen. If Gunrun/Vshojo was willing to steal from their most valuable member, why wouldn't they also steal from everyone else.
>>102513823Wouldn't call that stealing. Just owing money.
>JP CEO will be here
>JP代表が来る予定です
Maybe the entire branch was misled
i think Loutlot is safe bois, we are so back!
>>102514711>>102514757Please let it be a rebrand.
>>102514925definitely, even the Vshojo Nova are just called Nova now.
I actually admire souchou, because she is doing best thing they can right now: get someone, anyone, who might have insight into bts stuff, and just stream it
EN branch is most likely done if they reacted by firing everyone, so they should regroup and pickup as much pieces as possible
>>102515018she wants transparency and credibility from the ones up top, sure it's the JP branch but it gives as reassurance to what will happen to JP side of things.
Please Loutlot-sama save the nova girls
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It's time
>20k waiting
we're gonna have a high amount of monkey activitiy soon
Lets see if there's any hope at all.
>>102515537not here, they have their hub now
>CHAT DISABLED FOR NEW SUBS
LMAO PHASENIGS BTFO
EZ subs for sonch. sasuga
There's no way this is going to go well.
She already planned on leaving because she wasn't getting paid anymore fucking hell.
sonch was planning to leave on the 31st because vshojo owes her money too
bruh they haven't paid her in almost a year now.
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my baby....
fuck those new staff hires man. Literally went to shit after that.
Bruh I haven't heard her cry in years.
>>102501088Henya's manager is literally Kson's manager that she had before she even joined Vshojo, she'll be fine.
>>102502825Every talent is leaving, it's a sinking ship, the company is done and everyone knows it.
>>102515790noone wins we all lose
Loutlot-samaaaaaaaaa save the nova girls T.T
He's so brave for this, he's probably innocent
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Kaho is translating in twitch chat
>>102516806VshojoJP management has probably no control in terms of finances.
I mean, just with all the talents admitting they haven't been paid in almost year, and coincidentally Vshojo as a group basically not doing shit for the last year or so, it sounds like the company has been broke for a while now. If the main branch is broke, I doubt the JP side has been flush with money either. Have they just been getting by on loans all this time?
Even Loutlot says he was lied to.
Japan has been doing well number wise, hence NOVA has been created.
vshojo jp was doing good...
>>102517640So JP had good financial numbers, but that money was sacked by US.
I've never paid attention to what vshojo was doing outside of Henya, were they dumping money into non-profitable projects somewhere? Where did the revenue from whatever sponsorships and superchats they were getting go
>>102517935I mean Kson and Henya has a dedicated fanbase that buys merch.
So JP was feeding a black hole in EN
What a fucking disaster
>>102518123Peke goes to vacation and the whole org implodes. she truly is the goddess of destruction
i know she's already out a long time ago, but i wanna hear Mike's side about her tenure as Nazuna just to see if these issues are already happening for a long time.
So basically EN and JP had shared finances and either a staff member at Vshojo EN started stealing people's money or they ran out of money and a creative accountant started "borrowing" money from the talents in the hopes that more money would come in in the future aka embezzlement
When he said jp was doing well he meant only henya and kson alone were holding a whole company in Japan.
This is basically on a criminal level and not just incompetency.
>>102518618Kson said it started in 2024. Before that, it was pretty ok. There was a delay, but at least they were getting paid.
>>102518727>>102518739Makes me wonder if losing Nazuna actually was bad for them
She at least sold merch even if she was half assing her streams for a while
>try to add new talents
>haven't paid their existing talents
fuck
I like when she sometimes speaks in English to ask questions, I can really feel the salaryman getting bullied
>>102518807she cost them a lot yeah.
>>102518807nah Loutlot said they were doing fine number-wise. I doubt Nazuna affected that when she release a bunch of merch
>>102518895*never did release a bunch of merch
I think kson should set up a meeting with yagoo and take the whole nova under their umbrella.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO NOVA QUESTION
do you hear it? bunny henya merch preoders probably also went to support failing EN branch
>>102518991Hiring Kagura Nana and Iron Vertex must not be cheap
Well, good to know all of Henya's money got stolen to feed the shitters in EN. Good to have certainty at least.
If I can't see Nagi anymore....
>>102519310He'll do what he can until he's officially fired, basically.
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Stream summary
>Nothing is gonna be paid
....
>>102519092JP girls at least got the money from streams
We will lose Nova...no....no...NO!
I think the most who got fucked over were kson and Mouse. I need to confirm with Henya but I doubt since she didn't have big projects like the other too.
why are you guys so doom and gloom about nova ? don't they own their IPs ? They can go indie, right ?
>>102519860Her bunny merch sold really well, she definitely got fucked
>>1025198651. They just landed a big music contract under Vshojo JP, what happens with that?
2. They're just newborn babes, in terms of how long they've been around, losing the group support at that stage is brutal.
>>102519815I'm actually so fucking pissed
>>102519865based on the translations. I think Vshojo owns the NOVA IPs which is why JP CEO will try everything to change the contract
A Ferrari amount of money...
>>102519919yeah but nothing compared to kson believe me. we're talking at least 300K
Shoutouts to the CEO for agreeing to get cock and ball tortured live on stream
>>102520012We will just have to wait and see, it may be the reason she opened the fanbox
Henya getting sick during halloween saved her. she didn't push merch as much as mouse and kson. most of her money was directly sent as donations
>>102519865we are not so sure with what their contracts are about.
>>102520077today is a great day to be a cuck
>>102519949Loutlot said the sponsorships are tied to the talent and not the company, so that should remain.
I now Henya sometimes makes offhanded jokes like when matara was leaving she joked about she's glad she's leaving. the joke about 100bitcoins makes so much sense now
>Announcing that she'll "buy" her manager back
Based. I hope Henya can get in on that too.
>>102520481pretty sure Henya and Kson are close enough to share her manager, plus extra money for the manager
>>102520469>100 BTC>~120k USD>Actually a reasonable value based on what other people have saidBro...
>>102520469I guess Gunrun did take 100 of her bitcoins
even with this going on, Kson still tries to joke and have fun
that's why she's the GOAT
CEO dropped all remaining JP money on nova youtube ads didn't he?
>>102520558>>102520574Not sure if people are memeing or stupid but just in case, 1 bitcoin is worth 100k dollars, her request for 10 million dollars in bitcoin was a joke.
>>102520646He had no control over the finances.
Has anyone made the "take the money and gunrun" joke yet?
>>102520630Don't get it twisted, they are still millionaires. They are just crying they are not going to get a pool instead of just a small Jacuzzi this year. They will bounce back. In a year it will be just bad memories.
I have a feeling it might take a hot minute for the Henya bunny merch to arrive huh
>>102520691Oh, I was misunderstanding Google. I just put "100 bitcoins in usd" and it spat out 119,229.50 but that's per coin.
>>102520646>youtube adshey stream on twitch
When she talks about not getting paid, she means from sponsorships, merch and stuff like that right? She still got a cut of memberships/donos surely?
>>102520871Yes, Vshojo was never involved between them and twitch/youtube.
>>102520871her cut from vshojo merch and vshojo sponsorship
>>102520871sponsorships and merch + any money she sent to vshojo herself for use in funding her own projects
>>102520889sorry not sorry to burst your dramafag bubble.
>>102520871memberships/donos are all talents, no company cuts.
sponsorships: JP CEO said it's tied to the talent on JP side at least.
likely merch
>>102520938>she might not have gotten paid for her Yakuza workBwos...
>>102521012noobdy in jp is a millionaire, catalogfriend
>>102489374>1 viewYou're here
>>102520691>>102520863I did the same thing earlier. I just saw the big number at the top (which stays the same no matter the amount) and didn't even notice that the small numbers at the bottom were different.
Anyways, Gunrun should pay Henya 100 Bitcoins.
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Pettan Angel with the steel chair. Look at this menhera.
So Henya most likely going indie too if she wants to share mamane
>>102521358crop your shit properly retard
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>>102521388Not a single agency can afford kson or Henya or any vshojo member. They are too big.
>>102521452>Unauthorized raids
>>102521388She's got UTA for sponsors, which is pretty much the only thing she needs anyway
>>102521520It sounds more like having kson or henya would let them afford their other members.
>>102521452>>102521529I remember when she got mad when someone disturbed her solo GFE date minecraft stream with her fans but I forgot who.
>>102521452Does this bitch know she can block raids?
>>102521452>yea a couple girls had 6 figures stolen but i got annoyed by english speakers after a raidshut the fuck up bitch
>>102520792so you're saying their feelings are not important and should be ignored because they are rich? are you really that apathetic?
>>102521452Holy narcissism
>>102520820will it even arrive at this point. once the company dissolves, how are they gonna send out merch?
>>102521846All I'm saying is that you should be concerned for them out of empathy but not too much because it's not THAT bad.
so.. anything new from the NOVA girls themselves?
>>102522003He said he would try and keep them together with some support
>>102522050Read your post wrong, oopsie
>>102521915so what's your definition of bad then? if you find out your boss is skimming your salary by $10 is that fine? what about $100? it's not that bad right? trust was breached and it that's something you can't put a value on
>>102521623zen+henya+someone else
people were excited to finally see nazuna join voice chat and talk to henya because she wanted a jp friend for 9 months then she just logs out and ended stream a minute after encountering them
i'm still mad about it
>>102521452i did say i wanna see Mike's side about the debacle, but i never expeted her to answer this way. lmao
>>102522276>people were excited to finally see nazuna join voice chat and talk to henya because she wanted a jp friend for 9 months then she just logs out and ended stream a minute after encountering themNot to defend a lying whore, but at the start of that stream, she said that it was a short stream because she had a meeting with management scheduled, which she said an hour before even meeting up with Zen's group
She logged out a few minutes before that meeting. For something you're still mad about, you really didn't bother your ass looking into it
peanut live come watch tourists she's cute
>>102522285it's well known and documented she's retarded.
>>102522419i simply do not believe that. i might if her entire career hadn't been an infuriating menhera meltdown. she avoided henya and so many other members who were going out of her way to be her friend and try to make her feel welcome. she's an ungrateful bitch.
>>102522506that's an insult to them
she's worse
she's a >!menhara!<
>>102522619>i simply do not believe thatIs the VOD still up? Go look it up yourself before you selectively choose what to believe or not
It's an objective fact that she said that though, before bumping into Zen's group. So are you saying that didn't happen or what?
>she's an ungrateful bitch.She is, but you also sound like a massive bitch yourself, holding a grudge over a stream from over 2 years ago that you're too fucking lazy to actually watch and confirm
>>102522649>!I know what you are.
>>102521452That's her complaint?
Raiding?
I understand she had issues trying to get more JP attention on Twitch. I even agree that VShojo ultimately did a shit job promoting her among a JP audience.
But complaining about raiding? That's a bit mental.
>>102522803you're acting like this is the only thing i'm annoyed with her over. it's like one of 50. she wasn't just having a bad day, it was a pattern.
>>102522924I don't really care about that, though. But you're seething about one of the few things that it's retarded to seethe over, and it's mostly just your own fucking laziness that you've been crying like a bitch for 2 years over
If anything, if you wanted an actual excuse for her bailing that wasn't the meeting (she had a lot of meetings around then because she was going through contract renewals but wanted to quit), it was that everyone on the JP side knew that Zen was a man. But again, no reason for her to lie about a meeting as an excuse if the lie was made before bumping into the other girls, so stop acting like a woman on her period and admit to being wrong
they can't remove the logo themselves
>>102523087i haven't been crying for two years. i completely forgot until that one anon brought it up. i just remembered it and was moderately annoyed. you are making a lot of assumptions to paint me as some kind of schizo and they are not true.