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Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/thesigmaarts/status/1860014647837098253

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102490168

Geega will form a new Girls FC with all the old members

Pink Cat Good!

Where do you see the girls two years from now?

DRAMA SO FUCKING BAD EVEN NAZUNA REMOVED THE VSHOJO
NAZUNA
THE FUCKING GIRL WHO WENT TO KICK AS MIKE
NAAAAAAAAAAAAA THIS IS LAUGHABLE

Someone didn't pay her taxes and fucked everyone over.

>>102496618
lmao
what a player

>>102496787
Yoooooooo

>>102496782
still selling the backpacks they're gonna get paid in for the trial

>>102496782
about the same maybe 1-2k ccv less for the big ones
The JP girls that idk it all depends how they come out of this

I like to think kson messaged michael cat and said to update her dead twitter

>>102496848
at least those can be broken down easier than trying to sell mousepads.

https://x.com/itscorinavi/status/1947431662155161610

>>102496782
At least half them finally pregnant.

>>102496889
most likely the case
Kson still likes her in a way since she has Nazuna merch on her background when RTX


Also is this site slow? captcha are taking forever to load

just got the news.
It's hard, but Vei leaving is not the end of the world

Imagine telling someone at the start of the year that on one literal day
>Mouse would cause the end of VShojo
>VShojo turned to be a fucking cartonishly evil
>Same day Mouse would follow Doki and would be followed by nuGura
>The Zen and Mouse rrats were true and then got solved
>Nazuna removed the VShojo tag
>There would be a charity fundraiser of over 200k and counting.
>Froot returned
>Nimi would annouced she's getting married
Like genuienly
What the fuck

It's only Mel left right?
I hope she's ok, and doesn't do something she'll regret

Things may have gone differently if he spent less on the steak, robots, and parties. He could have bought some pizza instead.

I can't believe gunrun embezzled 500,000 dollars of charity money to act as a distraction for nimi nightmare to announce her marriage and plans to have a kid soon

>>102496996
this has happened before. russia invaded ukraine the next morning.
If you live in taiwan, pray.

>>102496973
yeah it turns out mouse leaving vshojo is a big fucking deal and caused a traffic spike lol

>>102496787
>>102496618
This is incredibly funny. Thank you Mike for lightening my mood.

>>102496973
yeah, fucking nimi goslings broke the site

>>102497060
Who do you think shes having the kid with Anon?? Thats right Mr.Gunrun

>>102496973
Yes the site is dying. Two big nukes in one day is apparently too much for the tin cans and string that it runs on.

>>102496989

>>102496996
kek it's the apocalypse of vtubing in the west, more will probably come in the future, backstabs, pretentious people, more drama
I'm totally ready to get off this vtuber train, maybe off to some regular youtube food videos and old dudebros playinb video games.

>>102497015
We used to have all these jokes that Mel would be the last member and be the one to turn the lights out. Kind of came true in the end...

>>102497101
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>102496996
>VShojo turned to be a fucking cartonishly evil
Do not attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence

>>102497129
What a wild ass year

>>102497067
Russians thinking people typing Rushia on twitter was them supporting the invasion still makes me laugh.

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>>102497015

Mel is in the worst situation. She just got to Japan and Vshojo was her work VISA sponsor. If Vshojo goes under everything Mel has done to get to Japan will go up in flames. It's even worst because of her adult work with OF/CB that she probably can't find work with another company.

>>102497101
Bro what the fuck?! Pia is amazing, what a fucking loss

will you watch zombie vshojo?

What if the check just got lost in the mail, and the real culprit is the us postal service?

>>102496925
Mousey’s daughter gets a new sibling

At least we are reunited /here/ once again. We are finally one big happy family again. Now where is some nyanposter bussy...

Connor even playing the game mouse wants good bf

>>102497015
Oh she's gonna. Her and Gunrun are in this shit together otherwise she loses her work visa and bye bye dreams. She's fucked.
If even Nazuna is bailing, she's probably trying to find the easiest way to go down with the ship. Even if she does leave she'll never be the same

>>102497207
Nature is healing

>>102497015
I think shes in shock also remember she just moved to Japan and VSJ is the only reason she can stay there
Unless she figures out how to fix her Visa stuff with out vsj
I feel bad for her

THIS day was really something holy hell

>>102497209
I'm sure Mel could easily sign with GeeX+ for a visa if necessary

>>102497207
Yet again one of the only good posters in this thread

Remember Ari saying Geex+ is the only org she could see herself joining despite all of her ties to VShojo

>>102497209
I mean it's not that bad, she can always move back. it sucks but she has the money

>>102497222 (me)
was meant for >>102496416
No idea how I fucked that up

>>102497266
Yeah

>>102497156
Boomer ass saying made by jews specifically to protect people doing evil

>>102497277

>>102497167
idk anon maybe bringing vtubing to the west was a mistake, it should have been just the flesh streamers and idol vtubers in japan

>>102497355
she fucking knew

>>102497355
mouse saved her ass

>>102497225
You don't have to be smart to understand that there's no coming back from this situation unless it's a lie, which is very unlikely, vshojo is done, so no.

>>102497266
Reunited in the After Life.

>>102497222
Honestly this was the only thing that made me sad.
The current members can mostly leave with no issue, with maybe Nova being in danger, but the audition people didn't even get their chance at the spotlight before getting the rug pulled under them.

>>102496547 (OP)
>/xvsj+/
>not /vsEX/
ONE JOB
O N E

>>102497340
How supportive of adult entertainment is Kadokawa? I think they stop right at point the genitals might be shown or used for their intended purpose.
CAPTCHA WORK YOU FUCK

>>102497498
KSON IS OUT FOR BLOOD

nazuna's sense of humor is still good

>>102497461
Pia seems pretty heartbroken by it so I agree

>>102497498
gun on the run, turned his phone off

>>102497498
OH SHES OUT FOR BLOOD

>>102497498
Oh shit, she's hunting Gun down.

>>102497498
Yikes

>>102497498
I think Gunrun legit bailed

>>102497498
is it (me)?

>>102497498
FUCKING BASED. Im sorry i didnt watch you play slop horror games KSON. I will now watch

kson about to become the katana anon but for gun instead of cdawg

>>102497498
Gunruuuunnnnn dokoooooooooooooooo~

Peke update

>>102497498
Holy shit she is bloodthirsty
who has the leash

>>102497538
They are airing Nukitashi the Animation right now lol

don't let them distract you
#ReleasetheEpsteinFiles

>>102497340
She already has a worker visa, so it shouldn't be too hard to transfer it, but still difficult, although I'm just inferencing that based off US immigration law, so I might be off

>>102497498
Oh this woman is pissed

>>102497461
Be real anon, the auditions were another money losing project that they wasted time and resources on. Vshojo was run badly but zen made it worse by egging them on to lose more money.

>>102497498
I wouldn't want Kson angry at me.

>>102497498
what if he just took the money and bailed to Bali or something

>>102497498
GET EM KSON. TAKE NO PRISONERS

>>102497582
Does the Philippines extradite?

>>102497700
If they were going to burn, then I'd rather they burn after giving some people a chance at making it big

>>102497156
Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice

>>102497647
love that lil retard

WTF????

>>102497498
Kson, please lawyer up, I know there's an ocean and international borders between you and gunrun, but still

its a year of happy reunions. if the ex hololive girls can do it then i have faith in the ex vshojos
nyan and vei will talk to mouse again
henya will reconnect with tomoshika
kson will do a collab with sakuna
it will all happen this year

>>102497498
>>102497582

How big of a scandal would it be to the EN Vtuber world if the CEO of a once large company stole money and legit bailed?

Real talk, there:s no way this situation get salvaged, so what's next?

>>102497827
>WTF
good question because i can't get any information from this image

>>102497827
who

take better screenshot
https://x.com/MDOTRAGE/status/1947511466183299231

>>102497827
Bad crop anon.
>>102497899
M.Rage made those sickass Mel and Zen jackets

>>102497887
dissolving Vshojo obviously

>>102497831
She doesn't need a lawyer, he needs a stretcher. That baseball bat is going up his ass like that one Dobson edit.

>>102497827
bruh

>>102497887
Do your best to not get sued into three generations of debt and vanish from the streamer space forever, I guess

>>102497796
yeah, for those kind of decisions is why they went broke. vshojo wasn't an agency for literalwhos, they don't own the IP they win nothing out of talents growing their brand

>>102497887
VShojo 2

>>102497498

>>102497887
Vshojo goes down, all the talents either retire or go indie
highly doubt any of them will want to work for a corp after this

>>102497932
Normally I hate dogpilling with Irrelevant hard to prove BS but nah. Pile it on. Drown em in bad PR. Close up shop.

need a group pic of every ex vshojo

Good night guys
Or at least night
See you tomorrow, and try to rest

>>102497827
>>102497932
Somehow this keeps getting worse lmao

I knew I should have watched Phase instead of clowning on them. What a shitshow

>>102497355
Ari took the 500k

>>102497827
kek now every literalwho is gonna gang up on them
they kinda deserve it tho, but these people are kinda pathetic

So... who knew?

>>102497932
>>102497965
>>102497983
WHAT THE FUCK????

Everyone makes mistakes

>>102498066
Nice try, still not watching phase

>>102498098
Nah M.Rage made some good shit. I remember Koe going to some convention wearing the Mel jacket

>>102498042
goodnight anon. i'm at least gonna take a shot and get some sleep before too long too.

I think thegunrun is in the Epstein's list

>>102497995
Literally every agency gets people like that.
They went broke because they handled their money like shit and never invested in anything that produced returns.
If a talent growing is a negative for your TALENT AGENCY then just close that shit down.

>>102498066
girls are still gonna stream, what's the problem?

>>102497209
mel needs to get monke drunk and steal his seed for a Visa
jk

>>102498098
mdotrage.com
not a nobody

>>102498142
looking at twitter, apparently everyone

>>102498234
not a negative, just not directly beneficial, they just got cuts from merch and sponsors
so taking a literalwho involved a risk with no benefit for them as opposed to hiring an already stablished talent
not the same for holo, niji or other corpos where they do own the IP, in that case the company benefits from the talent growing a brand because they own it

>>102493158
>>102496416
I checked her out and she actually seemed like she would fit in well. She has a fun and interactive personality. It's a shame how things turned out. She thought she won the lottery, but only ended up getting stuck in a mess that sprung out of nowhere.

Gunrun is getting married?

>>102497209
>>102498252
>>102497358
The friends Kson made during the Yakuza contest might be able to help.

>>102498142
close friends of mouse definitely knew, fkn even camimi knew

Did 4chan die

So which vshojo are going to join 3am?

>>102497498
Who responded?

>>102497498
imagine i posted an image with kson with her tenga hammer but it has blades because upload failed

Even 4chang is shitting the bed

I think the combined autistic power of these two dramas is killing this site lmao

how the fuck do you not have control of your own finances, though?

why would you let a ceo control your own money?

You think Mouse wanted to leave when the first three left? And maybe that's kind of what got between her and Nyan?
Like, mouse got talked into staying with the company, probably wanted Nyan to stay with her but Nyan eventually decided she needed to get out, then Mouse feels abandoned and stops talking to her.
Meaning this shit with mouse has been going on for almost two and a half years.
Fuck!

so have you all learned that ALL corpo vtuber companies are scum yet?

the 4chan dying

test

>>102497932
>>102497965
>>102497983
who buy this tacky shit?[spoiler/]

i'd bet money that "c dawg" is the one stealing the money

So which vshojo will join 3am?

Which Vshojo members knew about this before today?

I am so disappointed with everyone. (Including vsj posters) You bailed out on the first second proving that you were in fact an anti thread. Disappointed in the talents for trying to salvage this PR style as if Vshojo did nothing good for them these whole years. They were part of this they just didn't come to an agreement how to share the pie. I am extremely disappointed with Ironmouse for bringing this out in the public. This will only be good for her but will hurt everyone else who remained in Vshojo. They either all knew about it and are trying to fuck Gunrun in a PR move or they didn't which is worse because mouse didn't tell them. Finally, I am disappointed in Gunrun and MTD for not speaking or handling this properly.

Final question ask your self who became richer after these five years, the talents or the company? Mouse, Zen, and Mel are millionaires sheep who cried wolf.

While 4chan was dead
Geega
>while everyone is busy farming their hit tweets I want to remind you to support the talents, keep it positive, and if the info didn't come from one of us, someone saw that shit in a spice dream and made it the fuck up
And Henya's try not to feel sad challenge tweet

did wind catch on the egg's naruto analogy? he dropped a pretty big reveal

Henya just tweeted about streaming tomorrow to discuss her future. Sounds like leaving might also be on her mind since it wouldn't be necessary to 'discuss her future' if she was just going to weigh in on Mouse departing.

>>102498797
Kettle will be alright, Connor-san and Geex+ got her

>>102496547 (OP)
/beeg/ is dead

>>102498797
What is going to happen to Henya? Was she molested by the managers? Fuck, I'm not prepared if there's more to this than just everything burning down.

REMINDER THAT LOUTLOT SAW HENYA'S BUTTHOLE

>>102498807
said the one who left before the ship sank

>>102497887
>Quit watching vtubers
>Reform a new en org
>Reform a new jp org
>Everyone goes indie and separate
These are the only possibilities.

>>102498908
She is marrying me and will be taking my cream pies until she is impregnated. Please support us.

So recruitment actually went all out. People just said no because the contracts were shit from the get-go. I really wonder how bad it is now that everyone has alluded to the same thing.

In this whole situation, the novas took the biggest hit. Imagine joining a "cool and promising" company just to find out you're in Niji 2.0 half a year later.

>>102498797
>and explaining my situation and my future plans
there is no fucking way she didn't know about this. she probably already had a plan b (I hope)

https://x.com/henyathegenius/status/1947525527046369422

>>102498987
We know everybody had to let their contracts be looked over by a lawyer so Shylily is just drama grifting.
Can't even blame her since it worked out nicely for her so far.

>>102498764
We're not Nijisisters. We don't care about the company. We're here for the talents. If the company is this garbage, then yes I want it to burn to the ground and for the talents to be free to pursue whatever it is they want to pursue. Whether that being indie or whatever.

>>102498987
shylily is just a grifter, she too applied for vshojo and got rejected the first time. her whole persona is a vshojo cppy of mouse, vei and nyan.

>>102499087
Anon I think that was bait

>>102499087
>replying to that shit

stop being defensive. the contracts were shit. everyone has said that.

I just realized my fucking CALENDAR AIEEEE. I wanted a vtuber calendar for 5 years and they finally got one this year only to die in the same year

Take your bets:
Who will stay indie?
Who will retire forever?
Who will join Phase Connect?

>>102499029
Surely she's not that lazy to not prepare for the worse after last time....

>>102499153
Not shit enough apparently if they couldnt even make money to pay people

>>102499153
The quality of the contracts were probably varied depending on the talent. If they were all garbage then why the fuck did Zen stay for as long as she did?

>>102499244
They will all go indie or join a different org/agency. Only one I could see vanishing is Hime.

Now I really hope there will be no new members.

>>102499059
Predict the company

>>102499273
Sunk cost. Fear that she can't do better.

>>102499321
Indie life baby

>>102499191
yeah but you can show up on Pawn Stars in 10 years with a rare collectible

>>102499244
WHO WON?
WHO'S NEXT?
YOU DECIDE

>>102499285
What if... Hime did a face and name reveal and streamed under her real name with her vtuber avatar.

I'm going to bed. I swear to fuck if something big drops when i am fucking asleep

>>102499316
RUH ROH

>>102499316
I advise all of those pour souls to execute whatever out they have in their contract. Reach out to the current members if they were aware and ask for a shoutout to your current persona.

>>102499398
I'm gonna drop something big right in your mouth

>>102499316
I know people are used to companies that eat shit ignoring that fact and immediately pressing on, but VShojo's business model means that they're in an extremely different situation. There is no "keep moving forward" in an org where every single member has made it clear they're leaving even if they can't do so right this very second. There is no recovery outside of a half million donation with proof that it happened months ago. The company's dead and buried. Feel bad for the talent(s) who were planned to debut

>>102499321
geex

>>102499257
she's no the type to come this quick about things, My assumption is that if she's going to stream tomorrow then she has a plan

>>102498797
Was VshojoJP involved in any crime?

>>102499273
Zen thought no one would watch her without the branding because she's mentally ill. Mouse stayed because she didn't want to kill the corp.

>>102499269
We already know they had too many employees and were paying them way too much. They were probably sucking the girls dry.

>>102499421
me next?

>>102499413
I think they can choose not having an announcement

Vei won

>>102499465
Several rapes by Kson

>>102499091
weh weh weh
cry harder

>>102499465
Everyone on the JP side has repeatedly said that EN and JP are basically handled entirely differently. For now there's no reason to assume that anyone in JP staff had anything to do with this.

>>102499244
>Who will join Phase Connect?
hopefully nobody

>>102499316
>>102499403
Zen could use that money for new vtubers to help these ones and nova to get out of their contracts lol.

>>102499478
They were probably sucking the girls dry.
Some people have all the luck.

>>102499530
>>102499465
THE CHARITY DRAMA IS A COVERUP!
RELEASE THE KSON FILES!

Gunrun had to skim off mouse and kept scamming artists just to keep the company afloat, honestly a lose-lose situation. still doesn't absolve him the fact that his actions were illegal and deceiving

>>102499601
Yeah as soon as I posted that I started thinking about tit. I mean it.

>>102499273
Mouse got guilt tripped into staying by management
Zen is just menhera and thought she would fail if she wasn't in VShojo
The rest probably had similar reasons like Zen but it was a bit more defensible in their case since they weren't as big as Zen

>>102499663
I also think about tit

>>102499601
someone got the sauce for this animated?

>>102499659
Just fold man, no one likes to admit failure. But scamming a charity and your sick talent is beyond scummy. Its the lowest of low.

If I were Gunrun I'd remove all vshojo mentions from my bio and make a tweet @ing Vshojo demanding answers

gunrun boutta disappear in the phillipines or somethin

>>102499530
gross

>>102499770
Sneak 100

>>102499815
Philippines mentioned lettss ggooo

has karui commented on the situation yet?

Things not on my bingo card, Mouse being the one to nuke Vshojo.

reminder all the corpos do this except holo/niji call it a "superchat tax".

>>102499321
CHROMA SHIFT BAYBEEE

>>102499770
kek

>>102499887
deme?

>>102499765
He should have started the process of shutting down VShojo when Vei, Nyan and Silver left. They had to change the contracts to be more favorable to keep everyone else. I know people love the girls they added after too, but I bet they were bleeding money that entire time.

now that vshojo is dead I can finally say here that I want to drain my balls in Silvers big fat pale ass

>>102499951
go back

>>102499922
I think Gunrun is more responsible for this one

>>102500002
thats gay, anon

>>102499478
>We already know they had too many employees and were paying them way too much. They were probably sucking the girls dry.
They were using them as piggy banks. The funds from merch (or streaming revenue with Mouse) that were supposed to be for projects that they would hold were being used to pay off old debts while taking on new ones.
Mouse was probably spamming sponsors through UTA because Vshojo was holding so much of her money and weren't paying her or other people making things for her.

>fox eyes
>Gendo pose
>turns out to be a hidden manipulator who betrays everyone
BRAVO MERRY

The real question here is where the money went. If it were to cover the late payments it wouldn't make sense to hide that info from mouse because pretending the company is doing fine hurts her just as much as it hurts them.

>>102500002
she's been gone for 84 years wdym

>>102499765
but him admitting to any of the allegations is just straight up admitting to a felony. I'd bet my left nut that he won't make any public statements and just let the lawyers hush it out, but if he does it'll be some bs response

You niggas are crying while mel is posting nudes in her fansly.

>>102500076
>Vshojo uses the money for other things
>Mouse completely ignores Nova
I wonder

Man. Even Caseoh.

https://x.com/caseohOOC/status/1947480981994410391

In hindsight, offering to pay for therapy when everyone is mentally ill maybe wasn't the best of ideas.

>>102499770

>>102500076
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

remember when thread was making fun of Silver for shitting on Vshojo? How everyone was saying Silver was just menhera for leaving?
in the light of recent revelations from not only former members but also artists and big names like Orca shitting on contracts now would be a good time to apologize to Sakura Wolf

>>102500110
this dude pays for porn

>>102500102
obviously i meant before said embezzlement. Once you cross that bridge its too late.

>>102500110
Are they good?

>>102500157
kek

Can't wait for a video from Asmongold

>>102499285
Hime will merge with her grandmother into one person

>>102500195
They shit on Silver for shitting on Mouse when she left anon. And seeing as how the entire internet is batting for Mouse that says a lot. However she has fat tits so she stays in this thread.

>>102500195
I never said anything about her but I will apologize regardless if she has sex with you-know-who.

>>102499360
>WHO WON?
Vei
Connor (he owns Mouse full time now)
Hololive
Shylily
Nijisanji (because they aren't the company facing a massive scandal for once)
Tectone
Every drama vtuber
Normie dramatubers farming this
3am
The schizos on here who kept repeating the charity scam rrat
Nimi (she's marrying gunrun & the $500k is being used to pay for the wedding)

Mouse, the money was already given to them. Don't worry about it.

>>102500166
Silvervale is still a bitch

>>102498824
anyone? (same guy hi)

I think a few will join Mythic and the others stay indie

>>102500316

>>102500195
her situation was legit dumb though. she left because mouse hadn't talked to her in a while.

>>102499244
>Take your bets
Mouse. Sex. Scandal.
Let's go chat!

if gunrun really took the money and ran do you think twitch will remove the gunrun global emote

now im thankful sushidog and highping monaca didnt make it in… man I feel bad for the nova girls

>>102500316
reminds me of that dogshit hypnosis ban visa and mastercard drops everywhere they touch

I remember the girls mentioned they had like an "allowance" that Vshojo gave them for personal projects.
How in the hell was that a thing when they were beyond broke? Or offering to pay plane tickets for them.
Were they really keeping all that shit going to hide how fucked their finances were?

>>102500367
Yeah this. I still remember her getting huffy with the soap opera tier "can you really call that a friend?" middle school drama.

>>102500303
>you-know-who
yes, Silver has regular sex with me but that's normal for married people

I guess it's over for haruka then

>>102500488
I seriously don't think anybody used that allowance.

>>102500444
not if he gave half to Hasan

>>102496787
this made me lol irl

I've seen this already

>>102496996
And the prom is tomorrow!

>>102500518
For all we know, Froot coming back will get her to stream together. She was already doing stuff with the croc vtuber, she'll come around

>>102500528
Be funny if none of the talent did and that got embezzled too.

Looking at the video of Geega talking about it and lol. Geega mentioning that there's more than this, this is just what she can talk about now that Mouse has made it public.

>>102500620
Who would be Augustus and Mark Antony?

>>102500620
kson's goons running toward gunrun

>>102500305
does it matter who won?
what matters is we lost the Vshojo, one of the biggest vtuber agency in the west.
what does that say about the whole industry itself? that it's a fucking scam?

>Vshojo was trying to get Orca /in/
you just fucking now they also asked Sinder to join at some point but I'm guessing even she saw all the red flags in contract that Orca is talking about and decided to decline

>>102500717
who was this guy again? he sounds familar

I just wanted to get rid of the annoying leeches and +'s

>>102500717
NOT MY NIGGA RYO TOO

>>102500696
so did tectone, apparently the niji refugees got gouged for 60% of everything

>>102500367
>>102500493
Silver is simultaneously the smartest and dumbest (ex)-VShojo.
I remever when the Layna/Bunny/Bahroo drama happened, and Silver was like the only intelligent person throughout that whole thing.
Then there was that whole thing with Mouse years ago which was just some dumb unnecessary jealousy lol. I doubt she's still holding any sort of grudges though

>>102500076
With artists and merch designers not getting paid or paid late it's obvious they ran out of cash and had to patch the holes by tearing down pieces from other places.
It's bad management and not being able to admit that they fucked up. People have pride and wanted to keep up a rosy picture, staff were probably benefiting from it too with claims of 6 figure salaries that should really be 5 figure.
It was a ticking time bomb that they tried to cover up while enjoying their time in the company.

>>102500785
that fag doesn't know shit, much less about post-2023 stuff

>>102500778
hope you're happy now, faggot

>>102500765
the guy who takes care for comissions for vshojo jp. I think even jp is affected

>>102500798
Also why in expensive af cali of all places.

>>102500762
Takes a two-faced bitch to know one

What's the biggest 4D chess move Henya could do right now?
t. not Henya

>>102500790
kys with silver, bahroo and all the retarded ''hasbeens'' you're mentioning

>>102500846
hoes mad about the truth, keepcrying bc all your corpos are lying and big bad bald was right

>>102500921
Collab with Nazuna.

>>102500478
wat

>>102500921
Grow breasts

uhm guys tectone said gunrun is on the epstein files omggg

>>102500921
Fansly

>>102500762
>but I'm guessing even she saw all the red flags in contract
Sinder only cared about money. She would have been one of the first to see how bullshit that contract was without even needing a lawyer.
Probably the only useful skill she has lol

Vshojo is Vnogo

>>102500921
Geex+ probably. She'd have a nice comfy home with Giri and Ari and JP management

>>102500488
Remember that they outsourced the merch including customer support to shit chinese corpos. Those probably cost them very little and they were making bank, until the newer members started complaining about delays and they had to bring everything inhouse. That added lots of headcount and cost, and with the pandemic over they started to walk on a right rope. Probably became worse with tariffs.

>>102500785
Imagine listening to that troglodyte about literally anything. He could say 1+1=2 and I'd still use a calculator to fact check him.

>>102500921
Unironically, Phase. She has friends there and they can take care of her.

>>102500921
phase
I still remember that amazing collab she had with pippa

>>102501026
It doesn't help that projects would very likely mean wanting new models and how that particular aspect of Vtubing ballooned in price

I love Silbur

>>102500778
Well basically everyone who has ever interacted with a current or former vshojo is now a + thanks to this so hope you're happy now lol

>>102500756
It tells you that group based vtubers will never work without a big business behind it controlling the IPs. People who want IPs should be indies, or friends starting corpos together that are talent owned.

>>102501081
he was lowkey whistleblowing on vshojo being sus for months and only post-exodus did i start to believe him.

>>102496996
froot was back since a few days ago

Sayu is currently happily regaling her chat about how she knew Vshojo was evil.

>>102501203
Because those "big business" vtuber groups never have drama like this

That one anon was right. The thread is at its most "peaceful" while it's all hell loose on the catalog. Quiet at ground zero

>>102500921
stay indie. after all the shit she's been through lately just chill for now and stay indie

>>102500051
kino

>>102500943
tectone's source is fucking nux taku
fuck off

>>102501087
>>102501143
Beg somewhere else phasebeggar.

the phase/pol/nigs will start begging again....

>>102501279
We already had our shitstorm like 7 hours ago

>>102501260
Of course she is

>>102500906
They didn't need a reason, they just spent excessively. Remember the nova ads in akihabara? What did those do for their viewership? I bet those cost a bomb and didn't get them even 10 viewers. Most nova viewers are vshojo viewers who already watch.
That's an example of how inefficiently they spent.

>>102501303
he literally talks to nyan and aethel, i could easily see them spilling to him

>>102501321
Do not post this faggot

Titanic music playing

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EB85RlE2h9g
My man Koe

>>102500921
Dash to Gamersupps and ask Orca for a flavor

>>102501334
That shitstorm was less shitposting and more people asking questions and thinking about shit, to be fair. The schizos got outnumbered

god dammit now I'm gonna have to use like 3 threads just to keep up with my chuubas
I understand these are confusing times right now but you faggots better pick 1 thread when the dust settles
I don't want to be tab hopping

>>102500367
>she left because mouse hadn't talked to her in a while.
She left because VShojo favored Mouse and neglected most of the other girls. Silver was always threatening to leave because she felt unsupported.

>>102501362
I know fuck all about marketing but I wouldn't know how else you would drive up viewership. Have some thugs break into houses and force them to watch streams?

>>102501436
Lmao I need an edit of that Scene from Breaking bad with Mike crashing out at Walt for ruining everything but with Connor and Gunrun.

>>102501511
Nigga this is the thread we're staying in

>>102501260
Of all people that everyone keeps calling grifters just for the sake of it. I think Sayu actually is one. I would take anything she says with a grain of salt. After all, she's the queen of self-sabotage

>>102501436
So is all of staff going to jump ship and the last guy left has to take accountability? Because I doubt that shit was the fault of one person, even if it's highly unlikely the managers had anything to do with it

>>102501519
slutty tiktoks

>>102501511
That was already me with /big/ and /vsjp/, nothing has really changed.

If Henya joins Phase she's dead to me. Fuck all Phaggots.

>>102499059
geexplus prime member

>>102501511
no that was the case before this happened
now it's all going to come back to this thread

>>102501511
just keep it as exvsj, cause vsj is nomore

>>102501540
For real this should have been the worst day ever but this thread's unity has been amazing and the vibes have been great. Some real going down with the ship moment.

>>102500921
Get out of VShojo. Be cute and stream.

>>102501275
Cover and Niji never had pay disputes. They had predatory contracts but those are legal if you signed them.
Niji and Cover are making good money and can sustain themselves easily, if it's about the business their model makes so much more sense than vshojo's.

>>102501540
idk man, I feel like this place is gonna die eventually after this settles down

>>102500921
buy her pikamee model from that one guy, everyone has a price

>>102501554
I don't think she's a grifter, she just has an axe to grind with corpos. Normally I'd be more critical but today?

>>102501645
It's because this shit was so bad that everyone ended up on the same side. If it would have been drama involving talents, shit would have been nastier.

>>102501679
Pretty sure Cover had pay disputes that even reached national TV.

>>102501679
if egg rrat's right the 60% would cover any money they'd need to profit

>>102501400
Aethel hasn't talked to Tectone ever since the allegations on Tectone dropped. I'm assuming Nyan hasn't talked to him as well.
Anything that he's told him would have to be before all of that.

Pretty much confirms Mouse standing up tweet was about vshojo.

>>102501753
True this was last on my list of Rratts that I would ever entertain believing.

>>102501734
>axe to grind
>is constantly trying to get into new ones and complaining that she's not in one
>hah! I knew all along
nah that shit is retarded

>>102501700
if anything there will be more posters now

>>102501700
Nah I doubt it. We're in a different situation from other vtuber corpos. Nobody's taking on any new identities and nobody is forbidden from talking about their old workplace. Completely different vibe

>>102501700
You mean the property. She probably still has all her models saved on her computer.

>>102501519
There's no easy way to do it, it's just stream stream and stream or try to go viral off some clips.

>>102501087
kys

So, does this mean Mouse and Zen do not hate each other?

>>102501781
He's retarded. GEEGA has already said cuts were nowhere near that. And connor has confirmed that Vshojo was retarded and had no income stream beside good vibes and prayers

>>102501734
Why not? Everyone else is taking the chance to let us know that they always knew (but obviously didn't say or do shit about it)

>>102501868
Zen replied to Mouse with a heart, my guy

>>102501868
You dont give 5 thousand dollars to people you hate.....besides the government that is.

>>102501794
he said he knew vshojo was cooked for 15-16 months and i'm pretty sure nyan and aethel still raid. lily doesn't care when tectone raids. i'm sure a handful vibe in DMs and he actively tells vtubers not to say publicly they talk to him.

>>102501868
Zen hated Mouse briefly after leaving. Then she realized that was retarded after Mouse revealed what was going on. So Zen no longer hates her again.

>>102501773
cover had a single pay dispute that got paid out before the drama even reached the eyes or ears of anyone public, and even then the person with the dispute was laughed at by the entire industry

>>102501985
so a zenhara moment?

Oh yeah we dead

>>102501734
Vshojo being shit is not on discussion. But hearing Sayu of all people acting high and mighty doesn't exactly make her look good or give her brownie points. And it's not even the first time she shits on something randomly and then hides whenever someone asks for accountability.
I used to watch her and holy shit, every couple of streams it was always a rant about a random thing.

>>102501866
Why are you mad? If Henya wants management and to be surrounded by friends, it's either back to VOMS or Phase. And one of those is objectively better. Unless she wants to be an indie and handle everything herself, which I doubt.

>>102502008
Love my nigga Highgai. His IRL's were some of my favorite VShojo streams ever

>>102502008
Jeez. They can't even afford to keep this hack.

>>102500717
>>102501436
>>102502008
>>102502021
So what, is it a mass panic layoff?

>>102501998
We don't know how many disputes they have behind the scenes. Just like with Vshojo more things will come out eventually.

>>102501362
>>102501519
They overspent on behind the scenes execs that did fuck all that could actually be seen or valued. Or the things that were seen they overspent on like the ads, the Michi teasers, parties, con appearances, dinners, etc. The company was doing a poor job advertising their brand using their money when the probably underpaid part time managers were the ones doing good work for some of the talents and were getting the best and most cost efficient advertising through the talents. They made a huge mistake bringing in these Bizdev guys and charlatans that came from Holo/Niji.

>>102502081
If you have to pay over a million dollars in back pay to someone the first thing you do is cut salary. In this case literally all of it. Devest of all assets and liquidate.

>>102502008
Wait. Wasn't Highgai Henya's marketing manager or something? He was always the dude showing off her merch.

>>102502081
it's over bro vshojo no longer exists

>>102502081
Vshojo getting ready to commit corporate seppuku

>>102502109
so the post was based on... feelings, got it

>>102501577
at the end of the day it is his company and has to take accountability for everything

what did divegrass anon know

>>102502081
I mean, there's probably nothing left
every girl except for mel removed vshojo from their twitter
it's over

>>102502008
>>102502021
o7 my dude

>>102502081
I think everyone just decided to quit.

>>102502130
Lean 6 sigma'd straight to bankruptcy.

>>102501956
If he knew that long then sure Aethel probably told him some things by then that made it clear VShojo was doomed.
It's just unlikely that Tectone knew about the charity scam in particular since this was very recent.

i still do not like ironmouse

So when we say vshojo is at fault and everyone is leaving from staff and talent who fault is it, is just gun?? who left there right now?

>>102502201
execute them, they were shit anyways

how long do NDAs last? i want more drama

gunrun should've stuck to selling backpacks

I wonder if Hotaru will leave. She took her shot and it didn't work. Sad, but it happens.

>>102502235
I blame that one intern

>>102502209
There's a lot more to contracts and contractual obligations than twitter bios

>>102502227
Cough up the Money Gun. Never thought youd be the IM schizo. Im heart broken

>>102502235
Everyone's blaming gun but there's doubtlessly other people we don't know about who work there. Gun still deserves blame even if he's not directly responsible, but there could be people we don't know about who are more responsible lol.

>>102498764
fuck off we love the talents not the corpo

>>102502235
we don't really know much

I'm glad the management were worthless sacks of crap so I don't have to feel bad about that nasty stain on all their resumes. Fuck em.

>>102502187
No shit Gunrun can't dodge this, but I highly doubt it was just him being aware of this shit.
This ain't a worlwide megacorp, it was like a couple dozen faggots running this. I don't buy that only Gunrun was in the know.

You think Mouse was hinting that the only reason she stayed when the original 3 left was because vshojo made her feel guilty for everyone else still in the company?

>>102502278
Didn't Matara ask her chat if NDAs are still valid if the company is gone? Someone post the link.

>>102502278
Theyre too broke to sue. They're effectively neutered. The dam has a huge hole and will collapse entirely soon.

Vshojo and gunrun were supposed to be the gold standard
If not even that is sacred, what is left?

>>102502166
I gave an example and you're coping now.

>>102502221
never said he knew absolutely everything and he seemed visibly shocked with the charity scam in particular (content or genuine, up to you). all he said was he had forewarning things were cooked and, as a viewer, can confirm he was hardtarget doomsaying vshojo specifically in advance.

>>102502346
absolutely

>>102502278
Depends on the contract drawn up. Mine for my job is 3 years after end of contract or termination.

>zen and mouse rrats were true and then got solved

Fucking what, I've been away for like 3 hours, when did this happen and what was it?

>>102502294
we don't really know what the contracts are like
and it's not really a big corpo
it was a fairly small operation

>>102502221
tectone is a dramafaggot who will say anything to better attach himself to the drama he wants to farm. Unless he shows actual screenshots with proof he was told anything, hes just saying shit until asmon reacting to hasan gives him a new thing to latch onto

>>102502081
They are probably all owed money too and he was probably only a contractor.

>>102502132
so mousespergs were right, mouse actually killed vshojo

>>102502360
A valuable lesson in trust apparently. Never let anyone else sign your checks or control your income stream if you're a 1099'er

They were right

>>102502410
they unfollowed and then refollowed each other on twitter

>>102502360
the industry as whole is fucked unless you're a JP company

>>102502444
I don't think anyone other than one mongoloid ITT buys anything he says

>>102502360
Nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-A1z2PbyCE

>>102502081
Bankruptcy.

>>102502410
Zenhera moment, nothing to see here

>>102502451
They were not right because they said Mouse leaving would save Vshojo. Instead the opposite happened like any sane person expected.

>>102502444
yeah, for legal reasons hecan't, same as mouse. him being bald doesn't mean he can break the law

>>102502496
>burgers cant run an anime girl business
Truly disappointing.

>>102502130
Never got the con appearances. They spent big money just to put up a merch store at AX, but the amount of merch they sell don't cover even half the cost of participation. Gave kson 1st class flights, flew like a dozen vshojo staff over, could hardly see the con because it can't be streamed or nobody bothered to do a walkaround.

>>102502360
Independence. True freedom.

>>102502043
kys unironically

>>102502492
zen blocked mouse and connor
mouse is too afraid to even remove steam friends

>>102502492
Extremely cringe that this is how we track social favour in the future of 2025

Does this light a fire under every other corpo now to do better? A sense of "don't fuck it up"? How have other corpo threads reacted?

>>102502610
They also got that robo-hand thingy that signs autographs that they used like three times and never again, as far as I know

>>102502143
He's just someone who worked freelance for vshojo. He's also event host and translator for game companies at conventions.

>>102502346
Zen was the next biggest talent averaging 3ishK after the leavers. Mouse was also 100% why vshojo got Gfuel and the Nikke concert.

>>102502611
Didn't one of the guys from Astraline leave recently?

>>102502611
TRUTH NUKE

>>102502675
If nijiEN didn't this won't

>>102502675
not stealing from charity isn't a high bar

>>102502470
yeah we know they're rightwing[spoiler/]

haha

>>102502451
They were right and wrong
Mouse did kill VShojo. But it ended up being a good thing.
Mousespergs originally thought that Mouse killing VShojo was gonna be bad.

>>102502690
yeah nick nocturn or somethin

>>102502611
He's right

>>102502611
Astraline is an actual corpo. And VShojo is structured like 3AM and Vchiban. Just a group of "friends" hanging out under one banner.

>>102502675
The Niji shit was awful and it changed nothing.
If anything, it will remind them of the importance of squeezing your talents dry so you don't end up running out of money.

>>102502235
Never the fault of one person. You can bet that some of the staff currently looking like victims on twitter were also enjoying their comfy life and pay. No one raised the issue when everyone's paid well.

>>102502772
VShojo hasn't been a group of friends in years.

>>102502772
Vshojo is a corpo my dude.

>>102502675
i think corpo sentiment between arcadiddy, the hololive torchings and vshojo going nuclear is absolutely dumpster. best go migrate to the bunker with vchiban or the like. i think if hololive went under in EN like the other tso it would be total indie domination at this point.

silver was righy
goddamn

>>102502816
It never was.

>>102502390
I showed you that your example is the equivalent of mouldy bread, if you want to complain thats fine but dude at least make it some stale bread

>>102502008
oh wasn't this the guy who would walk around cons while they streamed it?

> /xvsj+/
I really hope this thread will get back to its active glory days and fix whatever differences we had in the past

>>102502907
The only thing you showed is your cope, as I already stated.

>>102502962
Im staying here. Fuck lig.

>>102502831
So is 3AM then.

>>102502675
the other corpos have totally different business models
vshojo was technically a glorified talent agency
I don't think they're worried about vshojo

>>102502950
They have a few. Zen for example has Oscar.

>>102502962
just take your posters back, i dont like seeing geega, vei, silver, or nyan in /lig/ after they were gone for so long

so will vshojo pivot to a vtuber work visa company?

>>102503023
I don't know about 3AM. But Vchiban is just a friends group with shared branding. Not the same as Vshojo at all.

>>102503022
I for one welcome this outcome. And not because I immediately went with baking /xvsj+/ because I don't want to go there lmao

Anyway new thread
>>102503042
>>102503042
>>102503042

>>102500195
She left over fucking viewer numbers and you being an annoying faggot probably did way more damage

>>102503090
vshojo will pivot into a cautionary tale

>>102503097
once money gets involved any kind of vtuber group really goes to shit real quick real fast.

>>102503097
if vchiban crashout is on anyone's bingo they are too broken to be thinking straight

>>102502470
Of course my comfy wife was right
I knew it from day 1, I hope she's happy that shitshow is imploding