Thread 102503042

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Eyhq-D9yM Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/BoutsOfTheBlind/status/1946021399451045971

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102496547

>>102503042 (OP)
Threads just keep flowing

We did have a good run, all things considered

>>102503022
yeah I fucking hated posting in /lig/
sorry, but I'm extremely happy Vshojo died so I can post with my bros again.

>>102503194
I love breastia

How much money did gunrun pocket?

>>102503245
I do prefer the enclosed discussion of a select few.

>>102503194
Hesti..... my pure angel doesn't deserve this

>>102503194
I wish only the absolute best for Nova.

>>102503245
welcome back fellow exvsj enjoyer

>>102503194
This one hurts. They really left JP confused and unable to handle any of this. Props to kson again for uniting them all during what might be a scary moment for them. She doesn't want anybody to experience anything close to what she had to

>>102503217
Honestly yeah. This last month was awful, but things exploded quickly and we were at least able to get over it in a flash after the slow simmer. And 2023 VShojo starting with Henya's debut is my favorite period ever and those are great memories

>>102503341
Wasn't Vei in charge of that one?

Vshojo embezzled the money to fund Nova and their failure made it impossible to pay back the gambit in time.

>>102503341
I think that was all handled with a Tiltify so none.

>>102503245
I never want to go to /lig/ no matter how shit it gets.

The golden age of ex-vshojo begins now.

>>102503217
I'm sad that it imploded this way, but we had some fun collabs and moments throughout. I just want to go back to see the girls have fun man

>>102503245
Imagine if SNIV comes back and stuff
Ridiculous but it's a nice thought

>>102503410
That's bullshit
Gunrun is working with Nimi and embezzled the money to distract people from the marriage announcement

>>102503245
Same. This is where it all started. Back to the origins. I wont miss lig.

So the Minecraft server was Mouse was talking about was her own one i guess.

I want to apologize to: Geega and Zentreya (Not Matara, she's still a bitch). Hopefully Zen and Mouse will patch things up. I just hope Michi and Henya will be OK. I hope Zenya will be resurrected.

>>102503379
Now that VShojo is officially over I can definitively say that post-Henya debut until about mid-2024 is peak VShojo. Though early-mid 2021 SNIVS-led VShojo comes in at a close second.

>>102503469
Yeah I'm very optimistic honestly

if this is how cooked vtuber companies get (all of the above), i can't imagine how bad it is in idol culture where vtubers were supposed to be the progressive version of.

>>102503535
I think with this, Mouse will just let Geega handle the new server. Geega is already talking with Tofu.

>>102503506
There's no point to ban her now and I really didn't want her in the thread before.

>>102503194
at least they dont lose their name or model when this all ends
i hope they dont feel weird about continuing to use it or something dumb like that

>>102503549
Zen and Mouse will probably make up but Zen and Henya seem kinda impossible atm

>>102503245
Same. I was a big proponent of /lig/ for like its first month, but seeing what it is now I'm just glad that this thread happened.

what if niji buys vshojo?

>>102503618
one of the better things to come out of all this, the girls keep their IP and models

>>102503410
There was no way nova was gonna make back half a million in less than a year.

>>102503549
Did Geega stop playing GTA yet? I gave up hope and I don't know if I should care again.

>>102503634
They used to like whores but now they're unicorn gosling faggots always looking for low views to groom

>>102503612
It’s not her it’s the faggot who constantly screams
>she was right
>apologize

>>102503667
why would they? it's worthless. it owns no ips

I still don't understand why it took Ironmouse to start counting her own beans. She got big enough to buy her own house, and straight up said she had a lawyer even though from Kson's spiel about the perks of Vshojo years ago the company would be the one that handles legal matters. Surely between then and before shit hit the fan she could have had someone that works for her handle her finances.

>>102503667
they can barely buy their stock into a flatline wdym

This is what we get for giving Gunrun so much swag. He really thought he was chapo

>>102503633
Why, though ? I think Zen and Henya keeping out of each other is because of Mouse. If Mouse and Zen are fine, I don't see reason Henya and Zen avoiding each other.

feel bad for nova and whoever was waiting to debut

>>102503691
Maybe Mouse gets the rights to Vshojo in the settlement lol

>>102503679
Yes she does on her main channel

>>102503528
Her timing does make me laugh. I wonder whether it was intentional or just complete coincidence.

>>102503679
She plays it on her alt

>>102503703
>I still don't understand why it took Ironmouse to start counting her own beans.
have you considered that vtubers might be dumb

>>102503685
It wasn't enforced before so idk why you even try here. And there's no point in even trying because she's on topic now. If anything the discussion will become less toxic now.

>>102503703
Too trusting and paranoid. She thought of gunrun as a bro and she trusted only her family, gun, and connor.

Boy I'm glad vshojo fans never did the whole CEO worship thing like hololive and phase. That would have been very awkward.

>>102503703
I do think it's when they fired Roxxy, she had the lid on the cover up and it blew out once Vshojo fired her.

There was a schizo that used to demand that Mouse prove the money was donated...

I wonder what Ironmom had to say about this

>>102503590
Vshojo ran out of money and couldn't pay out.
It's worse when a company is making money and stockholders and other large companies want them to make more money in a place that doesn't need NDAs to prevent people from speaking out.

>>102503805
the weak link was the backpack merchant who doesn't know how to run a company

>>102503812
I mean we did it plenty, but I'm glad to see it was a joke lmao. I always meant it as one when I did it

>>102503733
Some edits ended up working in an unexpected way

BTW, listened Geega talking about it and she said something interesting "Everyone not streaming a lot has a reason for that". What did she mean by that ? Is it Froot, Haruka...Hime xD

>>102503895
>xD

>>102503860
Imagine they having no money to go to court and hire a lawyer kek

>>102503477
I became a vshojo fan before New Years. The Amalee reveal had so many eyes on it and the gunrun . Getting to know all the talents and fall in love with the streams felt great and I only wish I knew of them all sooner. NOVA were the first group I bought merch of and I loved hearing everybody here share their favorite memories.
Sad to see things end this way but happy to know things aren't all lost. I just need to hear that all the talents are gonna be okay. Worried for Mel

>>102503751
>>102503768
Ok I will continue to not care and hope that NoPixel has a scandal that gets her to quit.

>>102503937
x)

>>102503830
r0xxy is Mouse>Vshojo any time so i doubt she would help with a cover up.

>>102503860
bad idols go in the glue factory like umamusume taught me

>>102503895
xd

>>102503812
we did it, but ironicaly

>>102503842
Ironically I think he did that for the one they actually handled correctly, but didn't for the one they scammed.

>>102503803
You know for a fact he’s still going to be an annoying faggot about it

>>102503895
Michi I'm guessing, she was their 2nd best performing talent next to mouse once Zen left

>>102503633
She already retweeted fanart of her and henya, their fine

>>102503993
who cares at this point

>>102503864
Wasn't he a co-founder of justin.tv? People probably thought he knew what he was doing because of that.

>>102503703
>>102503805
Once again reminding you that Mouse was completely ready to have Gunrun himself visit her house to setup her tech stuff. Mouse trusted him nearly as much as she does Monke or Roxy.

>>102503945
same brother, same

>>102503945
I became a fan when Henya joined and started the golden age. Now It's all come crashing down man I do feel sad. Great times though.

>>102504032
I’m just warning you is all

>>102504046
stop believing retarded shit you read on the catalog

>>102504046
No, he joined a while later and has been involved in random shit, but never really ran anything bigger than a backpack company

>>102503895
>Haruka literally said its because of imposter syndrome, covid and post-covid depression.
>Froot (possible): but brainworms because of the issues. Plans on coming back
>Hime: xD
stop dramafag

how does this affect the divegrass team /srs

>>102504179
Manager had insider info and killed it weeks ago

>>102504046
he was part of the team that started it.
Not a co-founder.

>>102503966
maybe they threatened her job if she told mouse about the cover up, once she got fired she yolod and told mouse about it

>>102503940
That's probably were a bunch of money resides, is lawyers, or investors that are or have plenty of money to throw at lawyers. There is probably someone that isn't even an employee or executive that everyone wants to talk shit about, but will keep the company around just to enforce NDAs to prevent it.

Who's gonna make the /xvsj/ divegrass logo

>>102504179
pinkcatgood is back in

Did mouse unfollowed Gunrun after all the shit?

>>102504235
Do we get to keep the star?

>>102504179
We should combine Vei and Geega together

>>102503245
I still think this thread will be dead as fuck in few weeks after drama buff wears out

nigga should've stuck to making backpacks or whatever

>>102504235
WHERE'S OUR MANAGER? FROOT'S BACK AND THE THREAD IS GOOD AGAIN

>>102504304
Yeah if the Thunder get to count Sonics championships

>>102504297
Yes

>>102504323
We'll see, but I never liked /big/ and I just shitpost about grimmi in /lig/.

>>102503945
I started with the Michi Numi collab at roughly the same time. Don't know where Michi would be right now if not for that friendship and the lifechanger that the Thailand trip ended up being.

>>102504179
Silver is back on the team

>>102504369
I like Grimmi, she's nice

>>102504046
He was the founding team member of twitch not jtv, and that doesn't mean he owns huge parts of the company. He's just the 2nd guy to be hired, could literally be an average employee.
He was known for stream production and not running a corpo. Tech nerd sucks at business, what a surprise. Remember that google's co founders had to hire a caretaker ceo to run google because they sucked so bad at management and spent their days messing around with experimental tech.

https://x.com/pipkinpippa/status/1947517163822322079 You know what. Good on her.

>>102504380
Instead of a Pink Org. Perhaps its time to form a Purple Org

>>102504369
Yeah we'll see
I will go where the traffic is, I'm not going to post Silver updates in 3 different threads

somehow the biggest mystery to me now is:
How all of them knew (possibly for a long time) that vshojo was this collapsing pyramid scheme... yet apparently nobody said shit until the (self-appointed) god-queen spokeseoman of vtubing dropped the nuke. but also their reasons for leaving were all somehow different... We have confirmation from AT LEAST Giga that she was lying out her ass about the reasons for leaving (teehee muh new opportunities uwu), unknown for Zen atm, and yet Matara was terminated rather than left.
all of them wanted to sweep this under the rug until Mouse said something

I would appreciate if Gunrun just put up a statement out there. Not like this where the company is literally gone in just hours. and He doesn't even say anything.

will mouse rebrand from pink since that color is now forever associated with her vshojo era?

>>102504369
>and I just shitpost about grimmi in /lig/
Are you the literal grimmi shit poster?

Wait so am I getting this right. 2023 was supposed to be Geega, Amalee, Shoto and Shylily?

>>102504330
He could have made Vshojo work if he had a lick of business sense. Should have been obvious someone that tried to make a business out of selling backpacks to IRL streamers was retarded. I'd be surprised if he's sold more than 1000 of those things his entire time doing it.

>>102504474
it's like seeing a dysfunctional family, you know it's fucked but you can't really say shit cause you're not in it and if you are in it they have NDAs

>>102504483
why bother if the corp is dead? it's not like he has anything left to defend

>>102504474
Geega on her stream said that they knew about the money that Vshojo owe Mouse but didn't know about the money that they owe IDF even Mouse.

>>102504474
>biggest mystery
>apparently nobody said shit
>all of them wanted to sweep this under the rug until Mouse said something
It isn't a mystery. They were waiting for the person that could pay out to a good laywer.

>>102504538
And Cy Yu too, he got the same deal

>>102504411
>Tech nerd sucks at business, what a surprise.
Shame none of them have the same savvy as the ones from decades prior

>>102504538
NGL if you were a big indie it seems they were approached

>>102504474
yeah? that's show business and most jobs honestly
you can't blow up every place you worked at everytime you leave, no one is gonna want to hire you if you do that. you just fuck off quietly if you're not happy
unless they owe you 500k, then you blow them up

>>102504612
I mean Vshojo owning mouse money its pretty normal for a company which runs merch only in profit. Vshojo can pay those through installments.
But the IDF money is where the pure evil came.

just remembered all the times I saw someone beg for vshojo to sign bao so she'd stop getting scammed
imagine if they had actually signed her kek

>>102504710
who the fuck steals from a charity

Has anyone even seen a peep of gunrun at all? For all we know he anherod after Mouse came out with the video and spelled that things are truly vshojover

>>102504736
Now I'm even more confused about the Mint merch thing that happened. Was it just a weird site error and that's all?

>>102504736
Welp at least she lost her title of most scammed Vtuber

>>102504538
And Sinder
It's safe to say she he was also probably offered a contract

>>102504738
You'd be surprised. He'll, in the domain of content creators you have the completionist as an example.

I feel bad for all the people that got hounded by beggars to join VShojo and were offered a shit contract. That had to be annoying as fuck.

Yo I'll actually be going to Manila in August for work. If I see Gunrun there, I'll tell you guys about it.

>>102504739
Bali he goes

>>102504798
I think this scam is the largest charity scam in all of content creation by monetary value.

kek froot with her bad timing again

>>102504650
I think he was just reacting to the other news since I'm pretty sure he mentioned applying and probably would have taken it if offered
>>102504538
I don't know about "supposed to be" but they were definitely extended offers

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHPlKPOc78&list=RDQJHPlKPOc78

>>102504513
Nah

Nyan, Silver, Vei, Geega, Mata, and Zen posters right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POpdKGLDeKI

>>102504854
Ironic. If even half of them did sign Vshojo may have been solvent

This thread became slow the moment Nimi announced that she's getting married. kek

>>102504739
If he's smart we never hear from him again. He probably has a enough Twitch money to fuck off forever.

My 4chanx is turbo fucked right now and just instantly gives me a connection error when I try to post. If anyone else is having this problem using the regular posting form seems to work just fine.

Was this supposed to a vshojo show but they declined and they said fuck it and did it anyway?

>>102504889
I doubt that. More talent would mean more projects to sink money into. Unless a bunch of them do nothing but just stream and hock merch, they'd also contribute to losses.

Can someone explain the arranged payment structure for someone like mouse. The way she tells it sounds like they get her twitch revenue then pay her out her contractual share?? Like they got the twitch subathon funds like any other revenue and then she essentially asks them to make a $500K donation on her behalf? I can see why that would be problematic for a real business struggling with obligations just cause she asked nicely and raised it on her own pretext gimmick if this wasn't in ink.
of course killing the golden goose is no good either just steel-manning a bit here

>>102504914
mine is fucked too

>>102504916
This is the one instance where the grift is okay

>>102504916
Hmmmm. I'll allow the grift this time

>>102504844
Could she not be a retard for one day in her life

How do we stop her from rizzing Henya in the future?

>>102504951
privacy

geega kinda made it seem like mouse isnt the only one vshojo owes money to, they just cant be very open about it for legal reasons
its very possible this grows to be a multi-million dollar scandal affecting lots of different people

WHERES THE MONEY GUNRUN

>>102504739
He's been called out by MTD and is practically the face of the company. It'd be like if Pekora face revealed and said Yagoo hasn't paid her in the past 5 months, dude would be on the next plane out

It's over.

geega owes me 5 bucks

>>102505006
I would like to sit next to Vei

>>102505006
the seat next to Vei and Joe Rogan

>>102504983
Numi has raided her a couple of times and been raided back, she's just a bleeding heart who wants to send well-wishes to people affected.

>>102504951
Mouse has talked about this before. One of the only reasons she even agreed to join in the first place was because Vshojo would pay for things on her behalf allowing her to keep as much of her information private as possible. Having said that I don't think she ever said that they literally owned her money. I had assumed she simply transferred money and they paid. This is much worse.

>>102504916
Mouse is winning.

>>102504951
that may be true and would elegantly explain why it's such a legal shit show - you only kill the goose if she leaves and like she said she felt responsible to stay and subsidize the others

So uhhh, Mouse offline golden hype train part 2

>>102505086
Dan Clancy sends his apologies

>>102505006
Nothing wrong with 2.

What do you guys think Geega is doing now

>>102505105
stop with this twitter follow bullshit

My main hope is that in the short term, some of the talents can contract their previous managers privately, and maintain their status quo as much as they can.
They seemed like really nice people, and seemed like they got along with their talents really well.

Also, is it just me, or is posting fucked at the moment?

>>102505124
Geegin'

>>102505144
>Also, is it just me, or is posting fucked at the moment?
nah its fucked

>>102505144
Vshojo scandal and Nimi Announcement. it's fucked flooded

>>102505124
unironically me

>>102504844
Remember her spending a day getting an animation done of her model doing the California Gurls dance over Zen in the Yamcha pose only to inadvertently post it at the exact time Zen was having a menhera moment lmao

>>102505144
Majorly fucked. Also Kuro posting again on his alt again. I haven't seen Elio much but cool to see Kuro have his own support. She seemed like a fan since I'd see her in his chat a lot

>>102504179
>>102504235
Manager left

>>102505170
>Nimi Announcement.
Pretty sad state of affairs when that creates so much shitposting.

Gunrun Status?

>>102505235
flooring it to the Mexican border

>>102505233
Most people were fine with it especially compared to how many unironic unicorns there were before. Shitposters are gonna shitpost, but at least it isn't genuine for the most part. Times are a changing

>>102505006
5 doesn't seem that bad

Dramafag bros, i don't feel very good

So do you guys think Mouse had full faith that Vshojo would donate that money until about a week after the i stood up for myself tweet?

>>102505271
Did not expect Kenji to have that type of movement. But he is a /big/ guy so I shouldn't be surprised

>>102505144
Hey, if nothing else it's worth mentioning that not a single talent has had a bad thing to say about their personal managers. Geega even highlighted that she said that when she left. None of them seem to have any problems with them, and they don't seem to have any problems with each other either. Whether they can continue working alongside each other remains to be seen but bare minimum I expect Michi to go out of her way to snatch up Maiko, Mel to do the same with Jinzu, and Mouse literally already did with Roxy lol.

>>102505276
The biggest thing is Mouse deciding she wanted to start managing her own money and asking for it. That is likely what caused her to think the delay in the charity donation meant more than she thought. I think the most interesting question now is what caused her to ask that in the first place.

What if Zen and Mouse team up to make a new Vshojo with gambling and hookers. Like a Talent owned Vshojo?

My comment got replied but I don't see the (You) anymore.

>>102505291
All the managers in Vshojo are great thats for sure. I wonder if the other departments are the problem

>>102505314
How do they fix the no money issue?

>no streams org
connection error
connection error
connection error
connection error
connection error
connection errorrr

>>102505398
>no org

>>102505383
steal from charity ?

I can't imagine kson's anger right now. She must be trying her best to get the other girls in check and informed since they all are retweeting her big announcement tweet. If that one person she mentioned doesn't say anything to her by the time she goes live, we might get the angriest stream she's ever done

>>102505314
This is an awful time to start a business like this. The merch is going to get tariff raped.

>>102505420
Hmmmm I'm in. What could possibly go wrong?

I don't like the idea of Mouse getting more dependent on Connor.
Its going to be hard to unravel their lives if it ever needs to be, and this incident shows Mouse will let herself get fucked over for a long time before she stands up for herself.

>>102505454
hot

>>102505454
Dont forget Geega was making lots of dms seeing on if its ok if they should stream or not by what happened

>>102505460
Yeah you'd have to have a flat fee on all talent earnings to ensure a consistent revenue stream

>>102505489
connor will milk her(not literally) and dump when her usefulness expires

>>102505276
Shit happens, things get delayed. People know that, and only assholes get uppity about it when real life circumstances get in the way of something happening. What kind of excuses they would have had to keep it up THIS long I have no idea about, but I can fully understand her thinking nothing of it for a couple of months at least. Maybe even some crazy shit like into the fiscal year which would have covered excuses up until I think April. But everyone has a limit.
>>102505314
None of them are interested in that because there's a lot of not-fun aspects of managing a company. And though this thread is bathing in unity I'd imagine not everyone is close enough that they'd even want to be in a Twitch team together.
>>102505454
Sad I won't be awake for it but I would expect a lot of righteous fury from her. I'd also imagine the one she wants answers from is Gunrun. She said she got an answer, and if what everyone is assuming is correct that the JP side had nothing to do with it then that's probably Loutlot. But Gunrun is in all likelihood who she's looking for.

Why does Mel still have vshojo in her twitter name.
Please Mel I like you.

>>102505341
Everyone on Linkedin probably.

>>102505573
let her hold her dead baby for a little longer

>>102505489
Mouse will just join GeeX+ anyway then Connor handles all the transaction for privacy. Just a loop but with extra spice with her "Best Friend"

>>102505573
she gets deported the moment she takes it off

>>102505573
Don't read too much into people not doing things.

>>102505573
Bro she was the first member and reason the org was made. Give her time to grieve

>>102505489
connor will milk her (literally)

>>102505573
She's living on a work visa in JP. I imagine she's not in a rush to leave the org until she found a solution.

>>102505573
She's the OG of OGs. She convinced Mouse to join VShojo. This is her baby.

>>102505573
Melly is the most easily emotionally overwhelmed of the group by far. She said she needed to think and chances are she's not gotten online since that tweet. Don't worry about what it looks like until she says something because I'd expect her to be taking this the hardest of anyone.

Where's the money F̶r̶o̶o̶t̶ Grunrun?

>>102505659
Bookwalker has been sponsoring Mel a lot lately.
Kadokawa owns Book walker and specifically GeeX+. hmmm

>check /vt/ for the first time in at least a year (maybe two)
>vshojo is imploding
Shit and I just wanted to post some veis for old times

>>102505739
If they're okay with having an adult star in their midst she'd be a good pickup for them. Especially since she's already close with at least a couple of the people already in the company like Hime's grandmother and Giri

>>102505573
Vshojo is her baby, shes probably insanely hurt seeing people she trusted pull off such disgusting shit, give her some time to come to terms with it

Man, I just wanted a new cool NOVA-like VShojoEN gen to bring back some unity and fill dead hours, why the fuck this happened instead...

>>102505696
>>102505672
I know all this but It looks bad on her, for outsiders it will look like she is siding with vshojo even if its not true.
I don't watch Mel but man I love Mouse and Mel together and would hate for her to get hurt for just not thinking.

>>102505734
:(

THE FAT MAN SPEAKS
https://x.com/caseohOOC/status/1947480981994410391

>>102505734
That stupid robot and other robot things probably cost them over 500k in materials, R&D, and labor. They probably wanted to sell that part of the business but by time covid ended and people started going outside plenty of people were able to make similar or better things off the shelf.

>>102505784
Mel could literally be a rep for 18+ manga for book walker. It's a win-win for both parties

This is kind of awkward but it would actually be amazing timing to drop the Music Box of Fate video really soon.

>>102505454
>knows mouse is threatening litigation
>talents already leaving
>chances it anyways
>other half of the company presumably not in the know at all
>tons of good workers in the company lose their jobs because of this, EN and JP alike
>big record company deal potentially ruined for the NOVA girls with no idea if its dissolution would hurt the girls
If any head of a company did these things they'd be seen as a fool. Does kson own a part of JP or something? Her being able to speak like this means she either has no legal fears in any of this, or she doesn't give a single fuck

>>102505827
I can't tell if this is a bit.

>>102505827
>he's all in favor of ironmouse
Well yeah. The number of streamers that would have the brass to say "yeah fuck that cripple" would be in the negatives because that's just career suicide.

>>102505873
Yeah this

>>102505878
>Kson
>head of a company
??? nigga what rrats have you been reading

>>102505878
you dont know Kson anon.
She doesn't give a fuck!

I...I just want them to be in a group man just a friend group

>>102505827
>vshoujo

uwu

>>102505878
Kson hasa tattoo saying if she died don't revive. Her whole philosophy is one big ride or die until the end

what if he just forgor. honste mistake

>>102505930
the chinese made that up about her in 2020 in order to direct hate towards her
the casual EN vtubing community absorbed that because they think it's a positive thing, hence all the "she actually applied to be a manager at holo" and "she runs the vshojo jp branch" shit that floats around with 0 source

>>102506028
I would uwu all over her face

>>102506002
The dream is dead...

>>102506065
Gunrun has dodged accountability his entire run as CEO. He's never once owned up to or explained anything.

>>102506065
Whoopsie poopsie. Where did I put that 500k +/- another 300k

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

Am i stupid for having a bit of schadenfreude over the fact that the biggest vshojo dicksuckers (amalee, kuro, henya) were basically just swept along in this fiasco and are now effectively forced to quit. they may very well have had no personal issues with the corp from their POV. but there's no way they were ignorant of everything that happened to the rest? and trying to dicksuck throughout all the mysterious staff quits and members leaving as if it wasn't hinting at a collapse. come on.

>>102506128
Vshojo died

>>102503042 (OP)
>/xvsj+/ - Ex-VSJ+ General
this feels right

>>102506145
Yes, you're a faggot.

>>102506145
>am I stupid
Very

>>102506145
>Am I stupid
Yes.

>>102503341
Is it confirm that gunrun took the donation money not Ironmouse mistook it for donators doing charge backs via the credit card companies?

You know these assholes aways do that just to get a reaction from streamers.

>>102506145
Extremely stupid yes. Please reflect on the depths of your retardation.

>>102506145
Nah taking money away from a charity foundation is just murderers works

>>102506145
Unless they were all gossiping about it on discord or e-mails there'd be no reason to assume they'd know. Specially Henya and Kuro who're half way across the world.

>>102506231
....500,000$ worth of charge backs?
That doesn't seem likely. More likely company took half and didn't tell her.

>>102506273
Froot has been vindicated across the board on all charges. Change the face to Gunrun

>>102506231
What is absolutely without a doubt 100% confirmed: VShojo didn't donate the money they were supposed to
Anything else is rrats. Some rrats are believable and have basis in reality, but even saying the money was stolen isn't confirmed, only that it wasn't donated.

>>102506231
>Is it confirm that gunrun took the donation money not Ironmouse mistook it for donators doing charge backs via the credit card companies?
Would be hilarious if Collective Shout did the charge backs as protest to Vtubers for promoting degeneracy or something dumb.

>>102506145
>Am I stupid
Likely

>>102504612
The IDF money missing makes a lot of sense. It's a pretty ingenious move actually.

Because there's multiple parties with varying amounts of information, you can basically make them think slightly different things, all happy enough, with nobody being the wiser that something fucked up happened (until now of course).

All of mouse's money goes through Vshojo, but the one actually doing a lot of communication with the IDF is mouse herself. The IDF got a lot of money over the years (something like 3 mil I think), so they're pretty happy and know Vshojo and Mouse aren't just promising fake donations. Vshojo gives IDF money, but not the full amount that was raised. Here they might notice, but also they might just not, especially if it's multiple installments. Either way, looking a gift horse in the mouth and starting to question (one of?) their biggest donors is a big hurdle unless they're absolutely sure that they aren't getting the rest of the money at a later date (happens with charity all the time). Even if they confronted Vshojo directly, Vshojo can just blame miscommunication about the amount or even just payment schedule, there's a lot of room to maneuver before the idea of foul play even gets introduced. For Mouse to ever get to know any of this, since she trusts Vshojo to handle all her money, the IDF would have to get so concerned and alarmed that they ask her directly, fully knowing she doesn't actually handle the money. That's something they'd be very reluctant to do, since that would be rocking the boat with their biggest donor. They've gotten most of the money they were supposed to, rocking the boat because you were under the impression you were supposed to get a bit more is not a good move and they wouldn't know if Mouse is complicit/knows. Vshojo gets to pocket the 500k with nobody protesting.

>>102506307
fake and gay

I doubt anyone would give this creep a contract

my favorite thing to find out is that they really WERE aggressively trying to poach every 4digit indie out there just like the rrats always said
100% they tried to get mint too

>>102506304
Possible, I saw Ludwig talk about the how 300k donations are charged back and the auction items didn't go through.

>>102506357
What happened to all the Niji dirt? Wasn't prison time promised?

>>102506357
I can't imagine anyone currently in VShojo leaking one to him lol. Unless that was why Mata got terminated which would be very very funny since we still don't know even with this

What happened to Panini? I went to check her Twitter to see if she had talked about it but the account is gone

I now really think we lost degen Mouse because vshojo manipulated her to be more seiso so they can more easily make money off her.

>>102506366
Good thing everyone (except for Ama, but she's retarded) realized how scummy and black vshojo is before signing.

>>102506115
>WHERES THE MONEY GUNRUN
Hey remember back when Fugi announced he wouldn't be with VShojo anymore due to that one vtuber streaming service failing and going up in flames? Gee I wonder why an unrelated service dying would cause VShojo staff to lose their jobs?

>>102506145
kuro joined cuz hes friends with mouse, amalee joined cuz shes friends with matara (and geega?), henya joined cuz shes friends with kson

>>102506412
She's paninimgmt now or something not paninivsj

>>102506304
>>102506397
>trolls join a "charity auction" to buy shit then do takebacks
How did no one see this coming?

>>102506366
she applied and got rejected every ligger did back in 2022

>>102506357
there's gotta be a better lawyer to post takes from

>>102503042 (OP)
>/xvsj+/ - Ex-VSJ+ General
>Ex-+

>>102506433
Poor Ama I thought she gave a smart business woman vibe but I guess not

Now all I need is an answer to why does Zen hates Henya now.

>>102506480
You clearly never watched her then

>>102506480
Scuff Queen? Oh sweetie. Love Ama, but yeah lol

>>102506498
henya spent the money on reeses cups

>>102506498
Zen and Mouse had a beef and Henya sided with Mouse thats all

>>102506480
No I think Shylily's just trying to drama farm. I don't think you can successfully convince Geega to join a corpo, but somehow Shylily is too savvy for it. There's just no way that's a realistic scenario lmao. Shoto also didn't say why he didn't join so he didn't make a claim about contracts or anything, only Lily did.

Mouse reallyscrwed a lot of vshojo members right now didn't she?

>>102506542
This is all just rrats tho right? We don't know anything concrete

>>102506231
That's extremely unlikely to happen, a chargeback big enough to even scratch that could get you in a ton of legal shit with banks and if it was that everyone involved would know sooner

>>102506572
Technically, but I think every single one of them is willingly standing with her despite what happens after.

>>102506572
where's the money gunrun

>>102506572
Only in so much as letting the org hold her money opened up a doorway to financial scummery. Without it the company would probably have gone under much faster.

>>102506558
Personally I think everyone was given an EXTREMELY different contract...like if they thought they could fuck u over that's what they'd put in there. I'm speculating wildly tho.

>>102506572
She is responsible for some of them at least. Especially Henya.

>>102506558
>drama farming
Clout for her company. Ruthless whoreca

>>102506572
Gunrun I didn't know you're here

>>102506572
yes, it's Mouse's fault, not company's

>>102506357
Gamersupps Chads won
Gfuel lost

>>102506572
Gunrun. make a statement now save yourself like a true CEO

MTD. I know you are here motherfucker. Tell me what you know. You got nothing better to do.

>>102506572
No, vshojo did.
This is the same dumb logic people use when they tell someone about an affair, the one who breaks the news is not the one who causes the problem its the cheater (vshojo)

>>102506572
Mouse hate

>>102506601
Might not be just one people who did charge back since the donation campaign got like 40-50k viewership.

>>102506558
There's too many people who've claimed they had lawyers look at their contracts in depth before signing it for me to think Shylily's being entirely honest with that post.

>>102506594
Maybe in the future we might actually know but now that's all we can speculate

>>102506714
his xeet cracks me up. there's no way he didn't know

One thing I will say is that I will be happy to get mouse and mel merch that's not from vshojo... In 2023/24 they fucked up my merch orders every god damn time. And one of my mouse shirts has the shitties print quality and I never got my Mel towel. Sadge.


(Also I hope Ama re-releases her tea cup)

>>102506572
Gunrun, please post on /int/ or /sp/ just to be sure you're still on the US.

>>102506411
Mata getting kicked out for doing merch by circumventing vshojo makes a lot more sense with the recent news. It seems like talent were aware of the money trouble vshojo was in (given that Geega knew that Vshojo owed Ironmouse a lot of money), very likely including Mata. Taking one of their only profit sources away from them with the knowledge that they're currently in a tight spot trying to make ends meet is a kick in the face. She basically turned herself into a money sink with knowledge that she was doing so at a point she knew the corpo couldn't take the hit.

>>102506694
My aim...
>>102506366

>>102506572
well, kinda, a little discretion wouldn't hurt.

>>102506759
Are you talking the Ani concert Tshirt? Mine died after 1 wash

>>102506480
she collabed with fucking Luca
she is either double-digit IQ or just COMPLETELY ignorant of the vtubing sphere (most likely) so its no surprise vshojos promises duped her

>>102506720
It's a problem with only Mouse and vshojo though. Henya and the JP members seems to be doing fine. She really just smeared shit on the company they are under. She basically obliged them to either leave in distress and stay until the boat sink.

This whole ordeal as mucH AS i love mouse serves no one but hers publicly (unless they unwillingly join the crying I got raped by gunrun fiesta)

>>102506572
fucking mouse letting Gunrun steal 500k+ from her

it's over?

>>102506758
You wouldn't believe the amount of shit that higher-ups hide to each other.
t.wagecuck on the industry

>>102506758
Exactly how would one of the most important employee in the company didn't know?

Kson stream waiting room chat is funny, never saw that many greynames in her stream

>oh yeah we'll oblige your $500K donation request
>just let us accrue interest on it for a year and look good on our books no problem :)
masterful gambit sirs

>>102506815
It's not a smear if it's true.

>>102506145
>posts three of the dumbest members, one that literally just joined
>but there's no way they were ignorant of everything
Brother.

Ok so I'm catching up, wtf is kaho vaguetweeting about?

>>102506720
yeah uh. talents had a chance to leave sinking ship in peace (like geeg and zen), but mouse just decided to blow everyone on board for maximum casualties

>>102506832
most likely, can you see Vshojo getting out of this mess and continue to operate?

>>102505006
0 because I’m a history autist and love medieval history so I can shit on Vlad

>>102506720
>the one who breaks the news is not the one who causes the problem
Not always true. Not a single person is blaming Coldplay.

>>102506851
Not to be the devil's advocate here but It's not mouse money though. It's donations to the foundation.
They probably were low on cash and wanted to invest and get returns for the next fiscal year.

>>102506882
Someone from Vshojo was rude to her so she's fantasizing that he is responsible. That post is dumb and pointless.

>>102506887
Fuck off with you're victim blaming bullshit Gunrun.

>>102506758
He definitely knew they were broke, but maybe didn't know they were that broke.

>>102506498
Mad about collabs.

>>102506882
People are assuming it's a Vshojo JP staff member who formerly worked for Hololive. It thankfully doesn't SEEM like it's loutlot or Highgai, the only JP staff anyone here cares about outside of talent direct managers lmao

>>102506838
Her waiting room is higher than her average CCV.

>>102506947
so she's fantasizing about the doxxing too?

>>102506882
A guy who was formerly worked in another Vtuber company who at that time worked in VshojoJP I think was doxxing the members

>>102506794
Mine was the racing queen shirt with the art by zambicandy... Also died after 1 wash :(

>>102506882
She's just farming drama just like all of them. what she said was not out of the ordinary.

>>102506572
I say this as an avowed grifterrat anti:

it's not her responsibility to keep this scamcorp afloat, maybe the others shouldn't have joined a scamcorp if they didn't want to get caught as "collateral damage".
It IS gunrunfags responsibility to not be a scammer so maybe they should blame the criminal and not the person reporting the crime

Have we heard anything from Vshojo side?

One does not simply launder away 500k worth of donations especially in California. It got to be those trolls doing charge backs.

>>102505930
The top part is referencing the person she was talking about, anon. Read the part after

>>102506882
Former hololive employee that got hired in Vshojo 2024. Then all became shit after that. Allegedly has a bad rep with vtubers from the previous company.

>>102507124
Publicly? No
Kson said she got an answer from someone, but it wasn't who she wanted. That wasn't shared publicly, but rrat is that she heard from the VShojo JP lead Loutlot, not Gunrun. No one's heard from Gunrun

>>102507124
Anybody attached to the company has essentially been fired and we've heard not a peep from anyone else. Not even a funny mistake on the website for old times sake

>>102507166
Is it really Hololive? I remembered he's from Nijisanji.

>>102507124
retarded cope please find a different angle

Gunrun is writing his doc right now probably kek

>>102507203
Imagine being loutlot in that position

>>102507114
Reminder than mouse was not scammed of her money by Vshojo. Vshojo just didn't give 500k of charity money to the IDF. (which is scummy) but still I want to present the facts that mouse OWN money is UNTOUCHED.

>>102507124
probably getting pr statement from a lawyer.
receipts for the "owned money" if there are receipts.

>>102507124
If mouse only has a verbal deal with vshojo to donate the money on her behalf and not like a contract, the could totally do it. Even in cali

>>102507227
Look as much I don't trust Vshojo, I also don't trust mouse either because she lie often for clout.

What's happening? I'm just in Manila chilling.

>>102507254
Except she also said in the video that they owe her a lot of her own earnings as well (not related to the charity)

>>102507254
>Reminder than mouse was not scammed of her money by Vshojo
are you deaf and retarded? she literally said she is personally owed a substantial amount separate from the 500k in charity funds

poor Kuro, considering he had a rather close connection to Gunrun

>>102507114
>mouse should not think about consequences of her actions. she doesn't owe anything to her coworkers/friends

>>102507219
the nijisanji one left 2023, He was basically a consultant for the launch of VshojoJP branch
the hololive one was hired last year.

>>102507352
They all had close connection to him.

>>102507315
This is where we find out the greatest plot twist of all: Gunrun has been dead for a month now.

>>102507304
>>102507254
I hope you guys at least look pretty

>>102506758
I mean honestly, it could be.
He didn't seem too much into the VShojo shit other than marketing.

I need a new Mouse Disney IRL. Gunrun ruins the rewatch

>>102506767
this issue had already come up before if you remember
https://shop.moso.moe/going-forward/
I think silver kept making her own merch for a while with somebody else? idk if that continued all the way until she left

Am I the only one who thinks this is an extremely bad Idea and unprofessional?

>>102507352
Until today literally nobody spoke poorly about the guy. It's part of why I want to believe he's not ENTIRELY responsible the buck stops with him regardless so he does deserve a fair bit of blame, but there's too much good will there for me to want it to ALL be him

Boys if I worked out today do I get to eat more and sleep early today or should I just stay on the Internet looking for tea

Alright /vt/, listen up you braindead normies
Everyone thinks VShojo is dead after Gunrun “allegedly” pocketed $500k from that charity stream. MSM parroting corpo lies as usual. But what if I told you this was the plan all along? Strap in.

First: Gunrun didn’t steal the money. He redirected it. To who? Himself? No. To black budget accounts funding VShojo 2.0. You think those new model upgrades and off-collabs pay for themselves? Wake up.

Second: the “scandal” isn’t a mistake. It’s a smokescreen. While everyone’s focusing on the stolen charity money, what’s happening behind the scenes? New talent acquisition. Think ex-Holo IDs. Think indies desperate to dodge Phase Invader contracts.

Third: Negative PR = growth. Remember when Nijisanji melted down over termination after termination? And yet numbers spiked. Gunrun’s playing the long game. Rage clicks = eyeballs. Eyeballs = new subs. New subs = rebranding momentum.

Fourth: “Gunrun’s finished” — KEK. You think the guy who literally built Twitch IRL streaming from scratch can’t handle a little embezzlement narrative? Bro’s operating 4 timelines ahead. He leaks the scandal, tanks morale, then drops VShojo JP 3rd gen like a tactical nuke.

Finally: The redemption arc is pre-loaded. Charity money “miraculously recovered” right before Twitchcon. Massive make-good stream. Ironmouse crying on stream. Gunrun “humbled.” Boom. Sympathy wave. People eat it up.

tl;dr
GUNRUN STOLE THE 500K TO SAVE VSHOJO
THEFT WAS THE BUSINESS STRATEGY

open your eyes, drones.

>>102507446
That is why I love sonch. She keeps it really real. A straight shooter

>>102507254
But they also have money owed directly to her, but she chose or was advised not to disclose it. They probably hold multiple times 500k of her money. She spammed a ton sponsors recently. She probably had that money go directly to her to cover the money Vshojo was withholding. She is probably having to pay for all the stuff that Vshojo hasn't or never did.

HOLY FUCK I WASN'T HER YESTERDAY, because of family issues, did all that really happen OMFG ????????

>>102507465
You're unlikely to get anymore tea until tomorrow morning when Kson goes live or people wake up. Thread has also slowed down considerably. We're in remission until new revelations hit lol

>>102507446
But stealing from charity is?

>>102507454
Still the unfollows are worrying.
It could still not be him directly, but he's likely involved.

As someone in a patreon goddamn the info in there would this general, even though ndas exist

>>102507407
Mouse only verbally said Vshojo didn't donate the money but where's her proof?

I learned a lot from the Amber heard and Johnny Depp court case so I won't simply trust mouse on this one.

>>102507405
What if straight up he left the company a long time ago and the rest of the company kept it secret lmao like straight up bounced and disappeared.

>>102507505
A tweet would suffice. This is just a circus

>>102507475
How to Schizopost 101

>>102507508
Finance guys and other people could be more to blame, but as the top guy it's still his responsibility to look out for this stuff and react accordingly so even in the best case scenario he unfortunately doesn't come out scot free.
>>102507446
Just you. It's incredibly based actually

>>102507537
c'mon anon, if mouse lied about it there's no way geega would fall for it, she's way more savvy than that

>>102507420
God dammit. That's like one of my favorite videos.

>>102507549
No its based. You dont give courtesy to burglars

>>102507521 (me)
i would her too, i'd also a verb too

>>102507315
Pretty sure you can find a background image that's actually in Manila.

>>102507454
literally no one said shit about Gunrun. thats why i believe that its other staffs that embezzled the money.
But he could have stop if he knew something was up. Thats why mouse unfollowed her too. the trust was just broken

>>102507537
>where's her proof
The charity releases financial statements quarterly. If they donated it'd be in the next one, so it'd be stupid for her to lie about it.

>>102507594
Oh....

>>102507574
My wife is the smartest vtuber of all time

>>102507537
If she has no proof then she gets buried by Vshojo along with the entire community after everything comes out in court. >we will never see any of that proof unless the situation is resolved.

>>102507620
>it'd be stupid for her to lie about it.
You be surprised when it comes to mouse.

>>102507574
pleeese. geega is getting one guyed all the time. she is not that smart

>>102507508
VShojo is not big enough for people to do shit like this without the CEO office noticing so even if he wasn't directly involved he's still likely involved and was incompetent at best

>>102507475
Why bother returning with the charity money if that's the case? Just rebrand. Gunrun can be a shadow operator with a puppet CEO.
9/10 rrat, love your creativity.

>>102507620
>The connorsperg was so obsessed with connor he missed Gunrun
CINEMA

>>102507654
I mean their donation doesn't show up on any publication of the IDFs mandated reports soooooo

>>102507687
you know that he has 2 companies right? the backpack one and Vshojo.
Vshojo is literally his passion project.

>>102507537
>but where's her proof
This reminds me of when the Selen drama was going on. You think this shit is going to be outed on social media?

>>102507537
I hope you are REALLY pretty and keep your discussion on the internet

>>102507508
He's the fucking CEO, he is responsible no matter what, whether he knew and he's a piece of shit or he didn't and he's an incompetent moron doesn't matter

>>102507687
Yeah, for sure Gunrun is not scot-free, but until said, we can be sure to get his head off.

>>102507537
I mean the proof is that a lawyer went over her statement. There is a reason she said straight up that the idf was never paid but only said that she "believed' vshojo owed her a large sum. Her lawyer would never have allowed her to say that if there wasn't concrete proof, likely from the idf showing that they never received said donation.

>>102507682
bro those are just flukes, if you're batting .999 with 100k at-bats it's gonna happen

>Open the VShojo subreddit
>no mans land
what the fuck that's kinda funny

We back?

mouse antis are absolutely livid at the possibility that the org will crumble and they can't directly blame everything that went wrong on her

So from what I gathered from Xitter is that at lease Slime Girl, Pia and ARUUU were in later stages of the auditions apparently so Panini really was trying

this is either extremely naive or a total pity bait to bounce back from vshojo

>>102507824
This is like the 5th thread. We've been back.

>>102507792
reddit is not a place to discuss vtubers. or many things for that matter

>>102507844
She will come out far stronger than before.

The Reaper has spoken

>>102507423
I think for mata, it was the timing and the full knowledge that made it an insta-kick. From the silver situation they learned they can't let talent do that and need that to be a hard boundary so they basically showed everyone that if you do this shit you're in big trouble. Mata then goes and does it anyway when the corp is (assumedly) even worse off financially.

>>102507446
Nah, she knows going "professional" will achieve nothing. She learned it the hard way with Hololive. Corpos and CEOs are your """friends and family""" only when it helps them. One single mistake and they won't think twice about ditching you and throwing you under multiple busses to save their face.
Making a move and adding even more pressure is the best alternative, as long as she keeps it legal (nothing that could put you on a defamation, perjury or slander lawsuit).
>>102507475
>Negative PR = growth
>Nijisanji mentioned
>when they bled out subs and views for about half a year
Aside that, pretty good schizopost, 8/10

>>102507901
Who will spill the tea on hololive?

>>102507446
it's already over, there's nothing to protect
and since the company didn't issue a statement of what's gonna happen now, she might as well

Screw that! I'm getting the answers myself

>>102507762
>Her lawyer would never have allowed her to say

Did you forget that mouse is retarded enough to breaks all the common sense as long as she's on medication and have been emotion driven?

Vshojo was just like an abusive relationship and it hurts me that Mouse of all people had to go though this shit.
Fuck vshojo

Girls can bounce back. They will bounce back. Novas though ugh

>>102507901
I'd also like to know why Gura etc left. Hopefully one day that will also come to light.

>>102507879
>I read it as: with NO LIES, COMPLETE PREGNANCY
...I should stop watching pink cat

>>102507789
Not to side with anyone but the odds of being one guyed does increase if the one guy is someone you've built up trust with.

>>102507879
She'll spend like an hour sitting there alone, wasting everyone's time, just to get clowned on by Xitter and every drama forum in existence once again

>>102507654
I think she and IDF was confident enough that they decided to do this. And they have known this for a while not suddenly

>>102507497
Silver is on topic now
That's the most important news

>>102507936
Foobs

>>102507901
the company that she works are not safe either. It's showing cracks

A bit sad to see the org implode, but as long as the girls are fine I don't care that much.

Also does that mean I can openly lust after Nazuna in this thread now and it will be on-topic?

>>102507901
she was talking about Fauna getting married, more to come

>>102507944
Did you forget this was a youtube video that was recorded and edited and then looked over by a lawyer? Not some random stream where she spouts whatever she could with no filter.

>>102507944
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>102507979
Yes and yes.

>>102507957
I hope the others will still highlight them and try to uplift them a bit, they don't deserve any of this

>>102507957
Novas and Pia are who I feel bad for. All but confirmed now Pia was the one who was getting through in auditions (and maybe more? I've only seen people post her though) and she would've been an instant 4view if she got her chance to debut. I really, really, hope the rest of the ex-VShojos adopt her and help her grow since they undoubtedly got to know her recently.

>>102507862
You said Pía two times, no it’s not Aru
It was also YuchiVT and some other girl someone posted here, Mage Mini. Although most were their own word and nothing concrete, safe to say by looking at the stats of them, they were 2-3views just as promised

>>102507997
Please understand, "she's dumb so anything is possible!" is all they've got left.

>>102507979
Always was

>>102507957
That's where sonch and the kettle have to show up and push them. Both of them kept constantly raiding them on their first months, they'll probably have to go back to do that. Also more collabs with them and the such.

>>102507944
you really need a better angle for your anti-mouse trolling

>>102508035
They lost their free viewer boost?

The worst part about all of this is that now every girl (and boy) will stick to their small friend circles and never interact with each other ever again.
Death of VShojo returned unity to /vsj+/, but completely finished the unity of its members

https://x.com/osushichan6/status/1947576712965067017 SUSHI LOVE

>>102508070
It would be ideal if the VshojoJP members can just stick together, regardless of what happens next.

>>102508070
I don't think they will follow that but yeah

>>102508059
>>102508074
So what will you do when Vshojo actually comes up with the donations receipts?

>>102508081
Yeah? if they were 2views before they'd have debuted to likely 20k minimum and walked out with at least a regular 1k ccv from the VShojo buff.

>>102507979
By all means, go ahead. Even better if you post pics too.

>>102507979
No one, at any point, has stopped discussion from any vtubers happening in this thread.

>>102508033
that's very nice and uplifting, and I do hope they bond harder by being boiled in this together, but man hopium reserves are so low

why are all these faggots acting like they couldn't post leavers before? anons posted leavers, liggers, holos, phase and i rarely ever seen any of those getting deleted by jannies

>>102508085
The Geega, Matara, Amalee bond seem to be pretty tight. They send each other long voice messages all the time. I don't know about the rest.

>>102508085
I dunno anon. Some of them have overlapping friend circles.
Mouse, Haruka, Zen and Henya all have Ari, Heavenly, Froggy, and Meicha in common.

bread????

>>102508109
Lol you are acting like IDF didn't know or sonething

last thread before primetime
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>>102508103
I want the staffs too: Ryo, HighGai and Mamane. Possibly (Loutlot)

>>102508109
The same thing I did when Mouse made her announcement. Go "Damn, that's fucked up" and scroll /vt/ for 6 hours.

>>102507923
>One single mistake and they won't think twice about ditching you and throwing you under multiple busses to save their face
depending on how many jobs are on the other side of that equation then the decision can become pretty easy from not only an economic but also a moral perspective, none of that applies in this case though, vsj is just fucked

>>102508161
Western donations drives are known mismanage funds, just take a look at USAID.

While we're all wildly speculating, it'd be awful hilarious if the money that vanished was on the IDF side, but the fact that Mouse is missing money meant to be for her makes that impossible.

>>102505287
>Did not expect Kenji
He found out that he has brain aneurysm, maybe that's the reason why he donated.