Thread 102506682

She really thinks Gunrun and VShojo team will simply leak all of the internal docs and infos on stream to defend themselves. Hell she probably hopes that Gunrun will say he is sorry to defend his ass Steven universe style, or says Mousey is wrong or "missed important context" and she will immediately use it to say "Hey guys. Don't be toxic. Let's wait for both sides" type shit

At most, we will hear generic PR response and nothing-burgers and kson will be clowned on, again. Like bitch, Mousey is SUING your company, you know better than that

>>102506682 (OP)
Is this Vshojo version of Black screen stream?

>>102506682 (OP)
are you done writing your speculative fanfiction about it, op?

>no downsides (none)!
fuck this moron

she is just trying to save her own ass
basic two-faced bitch behavior from kson
as usual

>>102506682 (OP)
She knows full well they won't do shit.
This is just basic attention whoring because her carreer died years ago.

>>102506827
She did one of these before talking about how unicorns are bad

>join whore agency which runs on drama
>get drama

>>102506682 (OP)
they'll hire the best defense lawyers and win hahahah

>>102506847
She said in the description that she will be on VShojo Discord. She is gonna pull the korekore/Keemstar style of drama stream, calling the victims and perpetrators live on stream and let them explain themselves

This isn't fanfic. This is real life, and yet kson refused to accept reality that there is no such thing as "full transparency" from a corpo that is gonna be sued by a fellow co-worker

>>102506827
Yeah, but the reverse. Instead of a member it's the public execution of the CEO.

Don't think Gunrun will show up. This is a legally hot situation so he best won't say anything, except maybe what happens to the company, outstanding merch orders, etc. if at all.

The JP CEO might show up and say what'll happen to Nova. The guy is usually brutally honest (in a way that I like) so you may get some hints. (He also sounds a bit like a slightly younger Yagoo, so that'll be fun to watch confused greynames)

At least that's my prediction.

So... What are on about? Of course VShojo PR and Management will stay silent but the more they stay silent, the more they can't handle it further because they have no choice but to speak.

>>102506816
>>102506855
neck yourself windy
obese retard

>>102506682 (OP)
Nimi marriage deflection thread.

>>102506682 (OP)
Why do vtubers have either vague or dramatic? Just fucking quit and go indie

>>102507060
Gunrun will not show up as kson already hinted that on Twitter

She is a retard if she invites JP CEO in as if he has anything to do with the Western side, and that will give people wrong impression that she is convincing the JP side is still white and non-problematic (basically "Anycolor is fine even if NijiEN is dead" response)

>>102507098
There's nothing they can do, no one is going to believe them over the golden child called ironmouse

>>102507174
>vague
NDAs, business etiquette

>dramatic
Their job is to get views, that's also why everyone inserts themselves into any drama to be relevant to the algorithm

Can someone give me a quick rundown? The cuckdrama seems to be drowning everything.

>>102506682 (OP)
Does this mean we're getting Coco back?

>>102506682 (OP)
She is going to deepthroat vshojos asshole isnt she

>>102507260
>She is a retard
Well she kinda is, because she still doesn't understand that western and SEA VTuber fans have the literacy level of a 7 year old and the attention span of a child with ADHD on energy drinks

>>102507285
$ 500 000 stolen from ironlung and lesser ammounts from other talents by vshoujo

>>102506682 (OP)
So is she quitting vshojo? As someone who always complained about corpos screwing vtubers out of money, seems like kson would not stand for this.

>>102506682 (OP)
This is the most retarded plot I've ever seen. Holy shit, just get an actual lawyer

>>102506682 (OP)
>Kson is so fucking naive
That's why I love her, despite being a literal American for the first 10 years of her life she became this good of a person, she even tried to sanitize the Rushia situation as best as she could, she would rather believe that Froot was well intentioned, etc.

it's sadly her greatest weakness but also her greatest strength is shows she hasn't become jaded

>>102507507
There are no mentions of VShojo in her bio except for the blue checkmark so it is an early sign. This stream probably becomes her "leverage" and she believes that if she puts the fear of losing her on VShojo management, they will be transparent about it

>>102507363
Unless she has the urge to sing and dance, she will probably stick to indie forever

>>102507631
>Unless she has the urge to sing and dance, she will probably stick to indie forever
threadreader moment

>>102507363
I would rather not see bot spam in the chats again thank you

>>102506682 (OP)
Lmao
She just keep shooting herself

>>102507507
Yes.
She removed her VShojo links on Twitter. She's also removed from the VShojo Team on Twitch.
Her info page still is as it was, but I think she doesn't want to touch it right now, because it's HTML.

Wait but I thought she said there are no cons to joining vshojo?

>>102507569
>Being a gullible retard is a strength
Roru

>>102507843
hang yourself windy
fat piece of shit

>>102507569
Her biggest strength and weakness is that she's basically ride or die for people she likes. Problem is sometimes, they're the ones being assholes, and she won't let herself see it.

>>102507363
Probably Indie. Her manager is on her payroll anyways, finances are managed by her accountant, she people who edit videos, she is friends with the artists and modelers she worked with or they are her fans. So she is pretty self-sufficient. She also has trust issues ever since hololive and does a lot herself.

But who knows. She seems to be on friendly terms with Yagoo though. She also said her working with Sega has opened more doors for her because companies have seen it's not a big deal anymore.

>>102507843
Wait but I thought- You are a retard clinging too much from the past

>>102508031
>>102507910
Hello friends~ did you know that the thing Ironmouse is talking about was happening since before Kson? And she lied about there being no cons~
Scamming for 3 years straight does not mean you get to push her shit under the rug and pretend it never happened~

>>102508031
Are you seriously trying to suggest we don't mock her for saying retarded things?

>>102508135
windy you will never be a woman and you will always be an obese 80 iq retarded man

>>102508198
You can throw as many buzzwords as you want but you will never say I'm wrong

>>102508307
you are always be wrong on account on being a fucking mental defective who would have been put in an asylum if you were born 50 years earlier

>>102507843
There wasn't any 3 years ago, things change

>>102508135
So you are saying that VShojo and the VShojo members lied to kson?

>>102508028
>She seems to be on friendly terms with Yagoo though
Just because she says nice things about him doesn't mean he gives a shit about her.

>>102508135
>the thing Ironmouse is talking about was happening since before Kson
It happened last year dumbfuck.
Mouse confirmed that the first donation was done properly. Only the one they did the next year was stolen.

>>102506816
fpbp

>>102508895
You say that but a shitload of people are coming out saying they knew this happening for years just that they werent allowed to talk about it thanks to legal threats from Vshojo. Unless you are now claiming that they are lying~

you left because me groping boobies and sniffing vaginas is usual content
no one cares, incel

>>102506867
Is she wrong?

>>102506682 (OP)
>0 downsides of joining btw

>>102509116
Her arguments were so shit that even anti unicorn crowd was confused.

>>102507107
windeez nuts in your mouth

>>102507569
A lot of americans are like that, in fact I would say it is one of national characteristics, annoyingly friendly and casual and assuming that you are the same and would just love to talk to them about personal things and politics.
I hate people like this since they inevitably end up friends with fucktards, and eventually become fucktards

>>102506682 (OP)
yeah
fans deserve to know if a vtuber has a boyfriend
how true kekson

this cunt always tries to play "vtuber jesus" and act like a spokeswoman for the masses

>>102508992
They absolutely are either lying now or lying by omission earlier.
If they didn't say shit to mouse then they are complicit in the fraud that was being committed.
And if they are making shit up then mouse is lying about her earlier donations being deposited.

>>102510398
Doesn't matter.
She's taking them down the same way she took down an entire branch back in 2020

>Ironmouse
>Conner
>All her friends
>"We are waiting for legal proceedings before we talk more"

>Kson
>"American 11, Boston, how do you read?"

>>102510558
She isn't doing shit except gamble on the naive fairy tale that her pimp Gunrun will cough up the ultimate convenient excuse for her to stay in the corp and keep her NEETbux, all while pretending that she's actually fighting for vtubers (which NONE of them did, they all watched as members AND staff left in droves one by one, pretending it was all just a big coincidence and everything is fine)

>>102510921
>already removed all traces of the company from her bio in socials
Cope harder

>>102506682 (OP)
I don't get it, wasn't the money going to charity anyway so why do the talents care if the management takes it? the talents are still going to benefit from it through ads and equipment

>>102511953
>why do the talents care if the management takes it?
Anon, that is called theft, embezzlement and fraud

>>102512073
if iron mouse wouldve kept her mouse shut there would be zero problems. unless she was supposed to get a cut of the donation money of course

>>102512224
Why would she keep her mouth shut? if she said nothing she would be charged as an accomplice you fucking retard

>>102512224
If your retardation can be converted into energy we would've been a Type 2 Civilization.

>>102512349
not only is she puerto rican but it was the management that took the money. retard.

>>102512224
uhhh

>>102506816
FPBP

>>102512224
>kept her mouse shut
Lol I laughed

>>102512466
>Money is going to charity
>Money doesn't go to charity
FRAUD!
Stop posting if you can't even figure that out.

>>102512224
I wish I have this guy's confidence

>>102512662
no one's saying it's not fraud in america
>management takes money, management takes risk
>iron mouse and other talents dont know about it and live in puerto rica, so it has nothing to do with them

>>102512860
Holy shit you're clinically retarded.
As things are now, mouse is in the bag for fraud and accessory to a embezzlement.
>but she's puerto rican
She's going to be tried in america you fucking wop

>>102509167
Simpler times.

>>102512987
>As things are now, mouse is in the bag for fraud and accessory to a embezzlement.
she might be NOW because she made a big deal out of it and didnt trust the management
>She's going to be tried in america you fucking wop
you think theyre going to send the police to another country just to find some girl who they cant transport because it would kill her because of idf all just for $500,000?

>>102513135
>she made a big deal out of it and didnt trust the management
That's the thing that's keeping her from getting charged
>you think theyre going to send the police to another country
Yes they fucking would. Muh immuno hort doesn't save you from criminal charges

>>102513196
>That's the thing that's keeping her from getting charged
the management had the money, iron mouse didnt know they didnt send it to the charity. there was no way to criminally charge her until she started asking where the money was, which made her an accomplice since she gained the knowledge about the fraud
>Yes they fucking would. Muh immuno hort doesn't save you from criminal charges
you have no idea about international law and puerto rica probably doesnt even have charity fraud laws

>>102513416
Holy corpo denial

>>102513135
Puerto Rico is not another country. It's literally America, but it's just not part of a state

>>102506816
kek

>>102513541
seem like you're right but they have their own laws anyway and you cant just transport iron mouse on a plane or ship to the mainland

>>102508418
This, even hololive was permissive at the start, where they would play any game they wanted.
1st gen members talked that they were given an iPhone and told to stream whatever they wanted.

>>102506816
Yes, because when you're lied to, it's your fault.

>>102509116
She accidentally threw a bunch of shade at Nyanners/Vei/Nazuna during that stream when she brought up the point that you cant date and stream at the same time without sacrificing your work ethic, as well as implying that being in Hololive was like being a slave
It was the dumbest stream I've seen and the fact that she was supposed to do it again in English, but decided against it, makes me think that even she realised how bad it made her look

>>102514272
Ohh i saw a video about that stream, 3 hours of retardation straight to my brain

>>102506682 (OP)
Does this mean she's going to talk to Gunrun on this stream?

>>102514592
She changed her description.

>>102514592
no. because gunrun ain't showing up

>>102514639
wtf. israel!

>>102514639
Is he actually showing up? If so this is legit the craziest stream in vtubing history.

>>102506682 (OP)
>7mins

>>102514639
The fuck does that jap know how to talk about it? He literally does not manage Mousey or anyone in Western branch. All he knew is his Nova girls and the JP branch

>>102515148
>>102514652

>>102514639
oh boy, he's gonna sue IM for defamation

>>102515369
>Saying they haven't paid the money promised to charity is defamation
C'mon now

it will be in japanese

Quit rambling and just get to the point!

>>102515715
You don't understand, she wants to see Coco level numbers

>I was already planning on leaving
Yeah...Sure...

They weren't paying her either kek

Payments?
never happened

>>102515863
Yagoo won

>They owe Kson money since September
ayyyyyyyyyyy

>>102506682 (OP)
DramaGODS eating good!

Vshojo is an actual PYRAMID Scheme.

Was it worth it?

Cons? A lot actually.

>Haven't been paid since September.
There's no way that can be true, right?

I think Kson should consult with Dooby3D company instead.

>>102516014
She said their payments started to slow around September, not that she hasn't been paid at all since then

>No asacoco since september
That's basically a year of no payments.

Money: Nothing

>I haven't been paid since September last year
How come she isn't homeless?

>Money will never be paid
oh no no no

>>102516118
This is chump change from her overall income once she started working for SEGA.

>>102516098 (me)
nvm lol wtf!!

>>102516098
she just clarified that she literally hasn't been paid since September

>>102516118
coco yacht money

classic women logic

>>102506682 (OP)
Kson was perfectly aware of what was happening and now is doing the silly dance in front of people to distract them from this fact.

>>102516118
Because she probably saved her Holo earnings like a normal person would

>>102516098
she is now talking in english. she never got paid

>still defending Vshojo
JUST FUCKING STOP
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

>>102516118
There's a thing called savings...

Kson's crying, bros...

>>102516242
no, she's saying that in the PAST she was defending them and now she's embarrassed / ashamed that she did

>>102516242
Do you understand English?

THE CONNED

>Crying
jfc. it's so over for vshojo. buy puts now!!!

>>102516288
>Go live
>Turn on the waterworks
Works everytime

ENTER

Come back dragon woman!

Why the fuck would you work for almost an entire year before deciding that maybe you should bounce?

He Gunrun with your money lmaoo

>>102516381
>GUNRUN
>RUNS OFF WITH THE MONEY
BRAVO KOJIMBO
MASTERFUL FORESHADOWING

>>102516376
sunk cost fallacy

>>102516288
She's ulting

>>102516376
Because she didn't think they'd pay at all otherwise, why watch if you're too fucking dumb to understand what's being said?

There's no way this JP fuck comes on stream, right - even if we believe she really does call

>>102513751
>admits he is completely wrong
>doubles down on his mouthbreather argument anyway

>>102516118
>not being paid for 10 months
>working nearly a year for free
>Letting it get this far
What_In_The_Goddamn?.png

Forecast on Kson having a guest appearance in Legal Mindset's stream?

ENTER
GUNRUN

>>102516473
Yeah, so make that call 2 weeks after they miss the payment when they have minimal leverage

>>102516550
She's truly Japanese now

JP CEO...

>>102516508
well...

>>102516574
It's the JP CEO, not Gunrun.

She has balls of steel for doing this in my opinion.

>>102515922
If true she's clinically retarded for staying past the first month of no payment

>>102516550
Ask the NijiEN livers

> Are you still a CEO?
> For now, yes
Lmao

>>102516376

>be owed money by scummy company
>be pretty sure company wont pay you said money if you bounce
>give them time and play nice thinking that will get you paid
>eventually not getting the money just becomes normal and you're used to it
>nearly a year passes
>someone else publicly leaves for the same reason
>"Oh fuck if they're out i might as well dip too i still havent been paid either"

>>102516618
I can cry on camera too

>>102506682 (OP)
Apologize.

Who the fuck is this retard?
I don't watch kson regularly

>>102516508
>Are you still CEO?
>For now, yes
Seems like he's on her side, at least.

>>102516684
He's her butler

JP CEO? so not the real CEO?

>>102516698
>everyone quits
>forms VShojo 2

>>102516618
This, seriously.
>>102516698
Well it's one way to save face, he'll need a job going forward. Might as well leave the sinking ship.

TRANSLATE WEEBS

>>102516771
nobody know where the fuck they are

>>102516666
Can you get a CEO of a branch of a scandalized company to appear and answer questions about the scandal too?

>>102516771
yeah just the JP branch CEO "for now" kek

>>102516771
the real CEO is currently on his brand new yacht

>>102516821
He's not saying anything worthwhile. Gunrun took the money and ran.

Why JP?
I don't get it

Would have figured the real CEO would have instantly locked this guy down with legal threats. Not that there's any way Vshojo survives this, but still

>>102516892
You might be retarded then

>>102516684
He's head of the JP branch of VShojo, but sounds like he knows he won't be for much longer.
The JPs are clearly making it clear that the problems are with the American side of the business to save face and their own futures.

>>102516892
jp ceo cant speak engrish

anyways i'll go watch kanaduy vod this shit boring

>>102516916
He probably changed his name

>>102516812
He's corporate speaking that "I can't really give Kson or the viewers the answers you want, because it will be irresponsible of me to reveal information that effects a large number of people, including other talents.
But he's also claiming that the EN side and JP side are very different. Which seems like he is deflecting a lot of the internal responsibilities.

>>102516771
Gunrun run away with his gun

>>102516814
Mouse about to put a bounty on gunrun's safe return to answer for this shit

How do we know this 'JP CEO' isn't just Kson doing a funny voice

>>102516771
this is loutlot, the CEO of the JP branch. company CEO gunrun has been missing for like 5? months now but no one really cared until this past month when con season started and he wasnt around for events like he normally is.

>The EN and JP branch is very different
Then how come she isn't getting paid? It sounds like that goes through the JP side of things? Why does she need to get paid from EN?

Kson is gonna end up getting sued for defamation because of this and will lose all her savings in legal battles. At the end she'll be so desperate and in despair that she'll ask her friends for tips for getting into gravure. Thus will begin her long journey into JAV.

JP CEO basically said he ain't got shit to do with the EN branch shenanigans and mismanagements.

>>102516618
She has nothing but gains from riding the wave. She reports on it - she gains views. They fire her out of spite - she gets free oppression points. It ends being a misunderstanding somehow - she was just asking for clarification for the viewers - if they ever end up bullying her for that she again wins free oppresion points.

>>102517036
>haha, I'm just a silly little Japanese :^)
>I don't know anything haha :^)

>>102517026
Sued for what? telling the truth?

>>102517024
bet the merch goes through EN side and sponsors probably depend on who

>>102517026
She's way too old

>>102517119
You can sue old people as well

"All the money seems to have gone to working capital, paying for the salaries of the employees."

>>102517024
maybe their payroll department(if they even have one) is still from EN? i don't know

>>102517107
yes? thats how japan defamation law works. truth doesnt protect you.

>>102517107
Truth of a claim is not enough to get out of a defamation suit in Japan. If they can prove that you had malicious intent behind it then that's all they need to win. This is why no one ever speaks shit about corpos in Japan. Kson is destroying her future in this one emotional moment.

>>102517107
Yes. JP defamation laws are THAT ass.

>>102506682 (OP)
I've been saying she is a CIA bitch dog for years

>>102517107
if its hurts your business reputation or personal reputation you can still sue and win even if it's 100000% true

JP is retarded

Of course she's going to pretend she's a victim now.
DARVO is the only thing these people know.

>>102517107
Yes.
In Defamation cases, it doesn't matter if what you said is true or not. All that matters is if you hurt their image/brand/life or not.

>>102517174
>>102517192
>>102517220
Bruh, Vshojo ain't filing any suits while they have their ass on fire

Imagine trusting a SC2 flip

>>102517107
lil bro thinks JP laws are the same as burgerland lol

>>102517107
Article 230 - 1
A person who defames another by publicly alleging facts shall, regardless of
whether such facts are true or false, be punished with penal servitude or
imprisonment not to exceed three years or a fine of not more than 500,000 yen.

>>102517036
Almost same sentiment when Nijisanji EN doki drama happen. Is it standard practice when a Japanese company makes EN branch they just let them go rouge, lol.

>>102517303
>>102517265
I started to think that didn't work for people like Doki or Sayu, but then I forgot that Kson fucking lives in Japan

>>102517314
>Bruh, Vshojo ain't filing any suits while they have their ass on fire
????????????
Literally all they can do now is filing suits

Would that even go to JP court if Vshojo is American company?

>>102517302
how is she pretending when she as well didn't get paid since last September?

Can VshojoJP goes independence from EN?

>>102517314
You are vastly underestimating how shit of a human being Gunrun is. He's going to squeeze every dime out of this that he can, no matter how many girls he needs to drag through the mud. He's finished career-wise so right now he's just ensuring his retirement.

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To demonstrate that JP CEO has been doing more important stuff to notice what's happening with EN, he should show us his Uma Musume account

>>102517303
>if you hurt their image/brand/life
Ah yes, saying they commited embezzlement and fraud is hurting their reputation, not the fact that they did commit fraud and embezzlement.
Get your head out of your ass

>>102517026
>getting into gravure. Thus will begin her long journey into JAV.
With that 4/10 face? Good luck. I guess there's some demand for that in rape JAVs probably.

>>102517429
That doesn't work anymore, the Chinese government removed all blocks to the wider internet for their citizens

"JP CEO for now"
So the real CEO will come later?

>>102517429
>anyone that doesn't buy this bullshit is chinese

>>102517521
No

>>102514162
>Enter this door, no downsides, only happiness and good stuffs
people falling for scams that are too good to be true are retards, they're victims but they're retards

>vshojo JP is doing well
>but you haven't paid me
KEK

>JP was doing good financially, actually
>But you haven't paid me????
Lol

>>102517367
With what money

>>102517521
probably he means that he's only "CEO" in name, but probably acts more like a content director

> VSJ JP was doing good you say?
> You haven`t payed me
Lol, lmao even

>>102517407
It's called reaping what you sow.
Something that women are very unfamiliar with.

getting the truth from japenis is like trying to mine blood from a stone
or something
enjoy your scam JPcucks

>>102517314
I merely commented on the reality of japanese law, not if vshojo is going to sue everyone

Kek this guy is as much of a scammer as gunrun

>I QUIT
>hai hai
KEK KEK KEK KEK

>>102517429
why post this? the one shitting the bed is from VshojoEN kek

>>102517573
Kek I'll give it up she still got that dragon in her

sounds like the jp side of things are trying wipe their hands clean of all this kek wtf is going on here

On what plenty was Vshojo JP doing good? Because of Henya? No one watched the streamers who spoke just JP

>V Shojo JP was doing good
>We got more money in than what was going out
>Wait, so you could have paid me?
>Yes. We could have.
WHAT.

I still don't get if she's intentionally or unintentionally funny

>>102517220
Its an american company tho. Highly doubt them having a JP branch matters jack shit. Whales will find a way to fund her potential lawsuit anyways and she knows this

She expedited her graduation from the 31st to today, lol.

>>102517629
And how exactly is vshojo going to sue an american in japan?
If this shit goes to court, it'll be in america

>>102517623
Are you Chinese or Korean or indo

>>102517668
Dragons are all about hoarding money after all

>>102517429
Here comes the butthurt.

This is juicy as fuck lmao

>>102517420
can someone tell me if this is a meme? Did he actually fuck off like that? I thought everyone liked him? Im so confused I usually dont do vshojo stuff so wtf happened

Why does everything that comes out of Commiefornia turn out to be cancer in the end?

>>102517695
ahh the pontius pilate

is this a bit, what the fuck is going on?
>did you just say Vshojo JP has been doing well?
>sou desu ne
>but you haven't paid me..
>hai
>I quit Vshojo today
>hai

Did she end up spending all of her money on gunpla? Is Kson broke now?

[live] Kson rejoining hololive

>>102517713
She's rightfully flabberghasted, what the fuck does this guy mean
>"We were going good"
>"We could have paid you"
Well then why the fuck didn't you?

Fuck, he just said he thinks the company is going under, and I didn't pay attention to why.

loooooool

This whole vtuber industry is fucking goldmine for funny`n`retarded drama
I fucking love it here

>>102517804
Welcome to business conflict with JP people

>suponsaashippo daijoubu
usotsuki

"Where's my money?"
"I want my money now."
*Desk slams*
I love my kaichou

>>102517778
gambling can be problematic you see..

Justin San wa Okane ga nail?

>>102517725
what. if you break a law of the country you are in, you'll get sentenced there

>>102517303
>>102517107
>>102517220
>>102517342
but Vshojo is an American company. I don't know if Japanese laws applies to Eestern sister companies

She's never getting any money

>Pay me now then

SILENCE.

10/10 CEO behaviour KEK

>>102517804
Well it's vshojo JP who has been doing well. You aren't all of vshojo JP.

>>102517833
TLs in twitch are saying that even though the JP branch is green on paper, the EN branch holds the funds, so it has to get funnel back via EN and that's where funds were going MIA

I have that pokemon presents stream on at the same time and it's been playing spooky lavender town and team rocket base music during this and it fits so well

So... why haven't they paid her?

this guy sounds powerless

>>102517713
This situation is just inherently funny in a black company comedy way.

So who the fuck actually runs this burning ship wreck?

>>102517918
VShojo Jap maybe legally distinct?

>>102517805
Nah if anything she's about to get one big haul soon

This fucking guy probably took all the money from the JP side's accounts and is sitting here being like "look Kson, I could pay you but really that's the EN's responsibility."

>>102517969
The gunrun

>>102517397

Finally someone with a brain in this thread

>>102517811
Now that would be the biggest event of the year in vtubing.
It won't happen, even if Yagoo might be okay with it he doesn't have that kind of control over the company anymore.

>>102517969
Private company. Whoever owns majority share.

This graduation stream is a completely different vibe from the previous, huh.

>be CEO
>can't do anything
wtf

Okay, the next set of people Kson needs to invite to her stream are all the people she dragged into VShojo with the lure of talent freedom.

Incompetence....

Now you know why Yagoo said the company would welcome back any talent who wishes to return.
Coco is coming back and has to make it up with a 4 hour strap-on session from Kanata on a public stream.

Eto... Ano...

>I'm almost not getting paid...
lmaooooo

>>102518047
probably just a jap frontman for the american corpo.

>>102517951
Same here it's pretty funny as backing music

>they didn’t do this maliciously, they just weren’t good at it
an entire 500K subathon doesn’t spend easy unless you are ASTRONOMICALLY BAD at your job

>>102518047
CEO of what's just a branch, at the end of the day.

>>102517725
Like how jonny somali went to trial in japan and now in korea despite being an american citizen, what the fuck are you smoking?
Why wouldnt someone living in japan under a japanese branch not be sued in japan? Or did she move to the US again? I assume she could run though, but Ive a feeling where she pays taxes and lives is what matters here.
I never cared about that part in the first place though. I just pointed out that just because she says the truth she isnt safe from japanese defamation law.

>>102518058
That was a typo
She meant talent findom

Lol so kson wasn't getting paid for 10 months and now all of a sudden, right after this all comes out, she was planning on quitting in just over a week? Fucking NONSENSE lol if she planned on quitting she would have said so way earlier

>Why did this happen?
>The internal management was shit, coming from the EN side
>Money was being untracked, and it was disheartening out of the company.
>Are you (JP CEO) getting paid?
>Not really. My paid is getting cut down to about half since around the start of the year.
>>102517919
>hai

>>102517069
They might sue her to oblivion, oppression points are free but lawyers cost money

I...don't understand what is going on or what this is. At first I thought it was a PR exercise to cover up. But the CEO is just looking like an incompetent cowardly rat while Kson rants about not being paid and nothing makes any sense. Why did he come on here? What does he get from it? Does he have no lawyers telling him to shut up? What is the point of this? What is even going on?

>chinks itt think she'll get sued
be gone bugs

>>102518144
good thing they don't have money for lawyers either (they lost it all)

>>102517879
Consider the following.

>>102518126
even the JP CEO's getting paycucked...

>>102518144
>lawyers cost money
kek vshojo is fucking bankrupt. what are they going to pay their lawyers with? KEK

so tl;dr it was a finance mistake that would have been corrected, but instead of letting it get resolved ironmouse had a woman moment and went nuclear with drama vagueposting as soon as she possibly could
>multimillionaire streamer upset her check for 500k (life-changing amount of money for normal people) was 3 days late and decides to go full nuclear, even though her life wouldn't be impacted at all by that money missing since she is so disgustingly rich

Sou desu ne

>>102518212
Credit cards

>>102518180
it honestly seems like a bit, how are they all this stupid
aren't they worried about the legal ramifications of this conversation

>>102518125
I mean...maybe all of them planned a massive quitting since all of them have been fucked in the ass.

>>102517397
Kson is in Japan and is a Japanese
Kson is under Japanese jurisdiction.
The defamation happened in Japan
I think they can sue in Japan, since she can be served there.

>>102518180
>Does he have no lawyers telling him to shut up?
nigga ship is disappearing. who is going to sue him and with what money? this isn't a functional company

>>102518180
Seems like Gunrun is AWOL so there's no one to even tell this guy to shut up

>>102518216
losing 500k for a year isnt a financial mistake.

"talent first my ass" - Kson
Kek

>Talent first my ass so it was staff first
LMAO
Every single vshojo shill point is getting destroyed today

>>102518091
The music just happening to peak when the guy sheepishly replies is gold

>>102518110
someone being physically present in a foreign country and breaking their laws is a LITTLE different than trying to sue someone for speech in a country with the most robust free speech laws on the planet

>>102518144
oppression points give you a huge money pillow. You're not going down if you're popular and popular opinion thinks you were wronged.

If I was this guy I'd probably be hard right now

good question

>everyone who doesn't like my vwhore is chinese
Holoroaches still have no arguments years later LMAO

Vtuber and streamers unlike professional film studio, often run and managed by unqualified simps.

The fact that they went broke is just incompetence. Fraud is a felony and they'd not be doing this stream lol

>>102518294
>>102518301
>>102518302
KINO
>>102518316
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME

>>102518125
if you poll everyone in the world who works at a job where they still didnt quit after 10 months of no pay, every single one of them would tell you that they are going to quit 'next month for sure if this isnt fixed'.

>>102518180
maybe he wants to be transparent and try to clear his name so he can get another job when he quits or gets fired

>>102518125
wouldn't you quit if you haven't been paid for months?

>>102518216
>torches a whole company out of impatience
based

All I gathered from this thus far is that vshojo is full of retards. The ceo, the staff, the chuubas. Genuinely how tf does something like this even happen?

>>102518216
It sounds like the company is out of fucking money anon

>>102518216
i know this is a shitpost but just for tourists
>her check (for a charity)
>3 days late (9 months late at minimum)
>her life wouldn't be impacted (because it's not for her)

Tell her I will accept apology sex

>>102518266
I guess there's a slim chance of that, but by what she said she was already late on being paid several months before NOVA debut, she didn't warn them?

>>102518216
Basically

>>102518361
>cons: none

>>102518361
Welcome to the wonderful world of content creation

>it was a finance mistake
Not getting payed for almost a year and displacement of $500000 of charity money can't be a "financial mistake". Unless you have a hamster for a bookkeeper. He's just a Japanese businessman speaking Japanese corpospeak with no substance.

>>102517975
Did the ceo of vshojoJP commit embezzlement?

>>102518280
A craft lawyer could look at this as a very easy win. On the other hand if it'd be in Japanese courts then things are very different over there considering black companies and all so probably not.

get in here

>>102518349
>>102518349
>>102518349

>ironlung watched everyone get fucked but didn't say anything
>only after getting fucked herself she decided to speak up

>>102518387
maybe they NDA bullshit but we'll never know

This dumb girl who can't stop eating gluten somehow runs a company better than this.
And she doesn't even name it yet.

>>102518350
I would quit if I hadn't been paid for a SINGLE month but 10? She is practically a lifer at that point barring community backlash

>they were considering separating the JP branch so that it could survive
Sounds like EN side massively fucked up finances

>>102518272
The entire company is dead anon. Who's going to sue and with what money?

>>102518216
Gunrun...

>>102518367
>>102518216
which one of you is telling the truth

>>102518450
brother they are about to get shit on by ironmouses legal team what are you talking about

>>102518480
Yeah actually though wtf

>>102518427
The funds accidentally went to the CEO buying his yacht. Honest mistake

>>102518216
what does this even mean
its been a year, not 3 days. and its not just charity shit, with mouses turnover, if she hasnt been paid at all like kson, we re talking millions

>>102518305
which is why my post didnt just contain two lines. If you read the rest you ll figure it out.

>>102518427
not saying youre wrong, but the 500k is peanuts compared to the amount of funds that are actually missing. No hamster is that bad of a bookkeeper

>>102518493
Woman moment. It's like the abusive boyfriend situation.

>>102518180
Are you talking about the CEO of the whole company, Gunrun? Or the CEO for JP only? Cause what I'm seeing and getting from this CEO JP guy is a whole lot of 'I didn't know shit was happening on the main company side. I'm just the company's branch manager.'

>>102518272
Does Gunrun even have a lawyer

>talents not getting their money
>affiliated charities not getting their money
>commissioned artists not getting their money
>fucking regional CEOs aren't getting their money
Jesus fucking christ, how much worse is this going to get? It's only been a day. Less than, even.

"Is mah money...gon' be paid?"
lol

>>102518180
Feels like a Korekore stream kek

>>102518216
Yo gunrun you shouldn't be posting here

>>102518557
Gunrun lives in a bougie area for sure

Why does kson need money so bad?

>>102518216
GUNRUNAWAYWITHYOURMONEYYYY

>>102518350
>wouldn't you quit if you haven't been paid for months?
Most people would, but consider that with Vshojo they're (ostensibly) only taking their cut from merch. So it's not like Kson is broke, she still gets all her streaming money they're just not paying her what is owed for merch sales. That's a situation a talent might tolerate for a little while, even if they shouldn't. Especially as they make up excuses about how the processing is taking a little longer yadda yadda definitely you'll get your cut next month though.

>>102518603
Twitch/Amazon got their money up front each sub.
EZCLAP

>>102518680
needs a new bed

>>102518680
Good question, I thought she was a multimillionaire

>>102518680
money can be exchanged for goods and services

>>102518680
she bad need money now she sick so pick me mr. kagoo

>>102518603
Amazing, turns out Vshojo was literally just one giant pyramid scheme

>>102518680
She didn't need it for almost a year

>>102518680
>You're well off
>You do your work
>You don't get paid for your work
Would you not ask where your salary is?

>>102518751
Women who work as hostess are red flag. Male hosts red flag is hot at least in Yaoi!

>>102518729
you become a multimillionaire because you care about getting paid

>>102518680
It's a matter of principle. Working for free fucking sucks.

>>102518680
She doesn't have infinite savings

They were still planning on onboarding more girls
Probably to have them make the money to pay kson and ironlung
ACTUAL PYRAMID SCHEME

>>102518680
why does anyone?

>>102518680
I think it's because humans have invented a system of using fiat currency to exchange goods and services

>>102518854
Too bad so sad biatch get rug pulled

>>102518903
lol, humans are wild.

>work for money
>dont get paid
>work for charity
>still dont get paid
Bravo, vshojo

>>102519028
>work for charity
>still dont get paid
I mean..

If only Yagoo could jump in and do something really funny to this whole situation.

RELEASE THE FILES
RELEASE THE FILES
RELEASE THE FILES
RELEASE THE FILES
RELEASE THE FILES
RELEASE THE FILES

This year has been wild for vtubers. No shortage of drama.

>>102518875
In a real pyramid scheme you actually pay your early adopters to get some good publicity and keep the scam going. This is a pyramid scheme if it was made by retards

>>102516647
>Still pushing Twisty as a source of information after she was caught blatantly lying
lol

>>102519122
He doesn't have to do anything. Just like with Niji. Let your enemies destroy themselves, as Sun Tzu would say. Not that VShoujo was ever a threat to Cover and Hololive dominance.

>>102518493
I can understand pay being late, esp when the corpo was new, liquidity can be an issue, but more than a month or two? What is the thought process that causes a person to go to work when they aren't paid.

Remember the co-founder of vshojo that left the company not too long ago?
He likely walked out with the bag before the entire ship went crashing down.

>>102518875
it's not even a scheme
this is just plain incompetence
do they only nepo-hire their staff and not hire any competent staff? jeezus

>>102519223
That would be "Slavery" ironically enough

>>102519174
I mean, it worked didn't it?

>>102517192
That's not really how the law works, even in corpo-friendly Japan. vShojo would have to have the balls to file a complaint and pursue a lawsuit that's pretty hard to do given that the money seems to be gone. It would also be virtually impossible for them to win any suit against kson given that they failed to pay her.

This is just ridiculous wishcasting by retarded Chinese antis in the end.

>>102519216
Yes, but your enemies have basically already imploded and the remainder of the body is being held up by sticks. Maybe pitch in personally to help the talents in exchange for future favors. Build an even stronger foundation on the ashes of your competitors.

>>102519223
well, they were able to survive without that money for a year. They wouldn't be able to get away with not paying their little cogs for that long

>>102519392
The only Vshoujo I would want anywhere near Hololive is Henya. Yagoo, poach her. Now!

>>102519397
It's not a little cog, in fact it is the perfect size, any bigger and it would be uncomfortable

>>102519216
>Let your enemies destroy themselves, as Sun Tzu would say.
Sun Tzu is retarded, if your enemy is destroying themselves, kick them in the back to accelerate the process

>>102519392
>Maybe pitch in personally to help the talents in exchange for future favors
what is this yakuza shit

I can't wait for the Henya crying stream. We're gonna be eating good the next few days.

>>102519397
I too have some savings and could probably survive if i wasn't being paid for half a year or maybe a bit more. I still would just find another job after a month of not getting paid.

>>102517023
>mossad/melody assassinated gunrun to steal the charity money
grim

I can't get over the way she says Vshojo
Veeshowjow

>>102519636
sure, but for a vtuber streaming is like sending resumes. And pity points you gather during a year of not getting paid are transfellable - next company would love to pick up a beloved vtuber that got wronged, because they get very positive PR

I wonder if she's in this thread right now.

>ferarri ammount of money
Damn, Vshojo fucked up thats alot

>>102519956
i think she cares more about the chat of people that pay her