Thread 102515752

ITT: posts that aged faster than milk.

Maybe that was the case years ago

They've barely paid her since last fucking year, you monsters have no empathy

>>102515752 (OP)
*post that aged WORSE than milk.

>>102515752 (OP)
that was on July 2022. She claims they stopped paying her in September 2024. Lots of things can change in two years.

>>102515752 (OP)
shes crying now..

>>102516005
she sucked their cocks and got fucked by them, not us
we laughed at her for sucking their cocks when she was doing it back then
we now laugh at her sucking their cocks back then and realizing she got spitroasted now

>>102516413
so she stayed for almost a year without getting paid? LMAO

>>102516005
No I dont have empathy for the biggest Vshojo shill out there. Even now on stream she is trying to claim that vshojo (JP) is good and that you should continue supporting them (her)

>>102516413
so she got paid for like 70% of the time she was there, what's she bitching about that's pretty good

>>102516005
You reap what you sow

>>102515752 (OP)
kek

>>102517412
I'd say she worked less than 70% of what would normally be expected from her so she got a pretty good deal overall.

>>102515752 (OP)
I haven't been keeping up
tl;dr of what happened?

>>102515752 (OP)
Funny, in the literal Japanese she used, it actually does say 'demerit: none at this moment'.

>>102517625
Vshojo haven't paid Ironmouse in over a year and stole 500k that was supposed to go to charity

>>102517625
Ironmouse was doing these charities right, she made about $500k for them. since last year.
Now, she claims that Vshojo was supposed to pay out to Charities but they didn't. So she quit the company. Now she is in a bit of a weird spot where neither her or Vshojo have given a single cent to charities while Ironmouse refuses to pay the charities and claims Vshojo needs to do it

As for Kson, apparently she hasn't been paid since september last year so she is leaving now. She is right now talking to the Vshojo JP CEO and blasting him for lying
>CEO: Vshojo JP has been doing very good financially
>Kson: Wait, Vshojo JP was doing good?
>CEO: Yes
>Kson: So why haven't you paid me?

>>102517558
This is like if nuGura came out and said "HOLO LIVE NEVER PAID ME FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS!" ruhmao

>>102517892
She wasn't, Hololive is not better than Vshojo or Nijisanji

>>102517745
>>102517888
Isn't the ceo of vshojo a chinaman?
Never trust a chinaman with your money.

>>102518311
Yes, but the guy Kson is talking to is the ceo of the JP side. He is currently lying how he had no idea what was going on and that they were actually good
As far as I know, the actual head CEO gunrun hasn't said anything yet

Kson is rich enough to live for 1000 years and the major actionist in some AV company that is printing money for her
I don't think she gives half a fuck

>>102518770
>Kson is rich enough to live for 1000 years
When she's this financially retarded? I doubt it.

>>102517888
I don't watch Ironmouse but why didn't she do a direct donation link for charity?

>>102515752 (OP)
Milk takes three years to go bad? My man, where you getting that milk from?

>>102517888
It actually seems like IM never donated to these charities, she had it set up so that half of what ever she made on a charity stream was given to VS to be given out at their discretion to the IDF. IM pocketed the rest.

>>102518987
She trusted the company I guess. 50% of the donation money went to Ironmouse and the other 50% went to vshojo and neither of them way to pay the charities

>>102518930
She just spent a ton of money on a bed and a pillow, keeps living on a shithole

>>102516005
i have no empathy for retards. the fact that she joined a corpo with "talent freedom" as their marketing, WHILE STREAMING AS AN INDIE is a low IQ move.

>>102519169
Shondo did the same and explained why

>>102519300
Shondo is in a corpo?

>>102519538
Joined mythic after her mom "suicide" to get extra dosh

>>102516005
You say retarded things you get ridiculed for saying retarded things. It's not a difficult concept, figure it out.

Remember what Reagan said - “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from VShojo and I’m here to help.’”

>>102519998
That's 11 words

>>102515752 (OP)
How many months without paying was she back then?

>>102520124
Yea and i'm retarded.
Anyway, total VShojo death

>>102519683
But mythic isnt a corpo

>>102520290
What? It's eight, it's nine if 'I'm' becomes 'I am'.

>>102520124
? It's 8.

>>102519142
ESL or just special?

Just saw this, any QRD, too lazy to click in

>>102521309
the vshojojp ceo was evasive with her questions and she is not considering joining any corpo in the future

>>102521309
>Kson wasn't getting paid
>Staff was, not her
>They owe her tons of money but don't have any
>Basically told she's fucked and to take it up with EN management if she's got a problem with it
>SWEARS she'll never ever join another company again (just like last time)
>This was a widespread issue and pretty much every single person is a retarded whore for not asking questions sooner

He won

>>102521309
lmao she quit on the spot when he said 'the JP side is doing fine financially' despite not paying her for 10 months, this shitshow is fantastic

>>102516005
Embarrassing for a supposed adult to not know better than to leave the moment they didn't pay
And now throwing her boss under a bus live on youtube
She won't get paid and she won't find any employment going forward

>>102521604
But vshojo is the most upstanding corpo of them all! Vshojo loves steeamers' rights! they even let them keep their models, look how virtuous they are!

>>102521800
Legally, you have to pay your employees, and vshojo was a corporation with employees.

>>102518987
Because vshojo handles all her monetary transactions as to not leave her name behind anywhere.
Because you know, faking an illness and hiding a child is her whole grift

>>102521800
I absolutely agree that you give a company maybe 1 month, 2 at max no pay before you tell them to fuck themselves (if you have the capital to survive that long) but she's going to be absolutely fine going independant, we've seen with almost every big ex-corpo streamer that the fanbase just migrates trying to pretend the corpos have a monopoly over the whole industry that individuals can't beat is silly

>>102521604
kek imagine those whales giving akasupa to Kson for years

>>102521800
She's a gold mine, you have to be very stupid to not try to poach her in a company rn, unless you don't want to pay her for 10 months either

>>102522099
She's not joining anything for a while lmao

>>102522128
I'm just saying there's not actual reason for a company to discard her because of this stream

oh no no no

>>102522099
Didn't she ask for a 1 million dollars salary or some shit kek

>>102522475
How much did she do per month in streaming and collabs?

>>102521800
>She won't get paid and she won't find any employment going forward
Retard, she's literally working at Sega. Vshojo is just her side gig.

>>102518994
That statement was rotten the moment she said it.

>>102522466
Kekus maximus

>>102522466
>talent freedom was a massive grift all along and the leftists bought it hard
Lmao indeed.

>>102515752 (OP)
I feel like that's not faster, but I guess you wanted to use the picture.

>>102515752 (OP)
Japs have harakiri'ed for less

>>102515752 (OP)
Help me understand the exact business model of Vshojo. My understanding of it is
>talent completely owns their IP, even if Vshojo provided them with a new one a la Henya & Nazuna
>talent keeps all streaming revenue
>Vshojo handles stuff like merch, marketing and con appearances
>Vhojo's only cut is some % of merch sales

>>102515752 (OP)
oof

>>102525241
Yes.

>>102525241
They also explicitly did not forbid talents from doing their own merch and allowed them to keep 100% of profit from the merch they funded themselves, then later fired Matara for doing her own merch, yes.

>>102527565
Never trust a chinaman ceo.

>>102515752 (OP)
Maybe she should quit streaming and just become a JAV. She has the tits for it.

>>102516005
She poached for any talents after leaving an agency to join Vshojo.
She was just sending them to the slaughter.

>>102517888
>>102519042
As another anon theorized in prior thread:
>Vshojo skinms from the top of donation pools
>Not sure for how long, but possibly years
>Talents get kickbacks from this as long as they don't say anything
>IM realises they can't keep this up forever and they will eventually get caught
>Exposes the half million stolen from the IDF charity fund, using her disability as a shield like she always does
>Suddenly everyone is in fight-or-flight mode
>Make up outrageous lies like "I haven't been paid in a year, but was scared to bring it up owo"
>They were all fucking in on it.

How retarded do you have to be to not get paid for 10 months and not bring it up anywhere

>>102530058
She trusted vshojo, because vshojo are (or were) the 'good guys' fighting for 'streamer rights and freedoms'.

>leave the walled garden to go le indie
>gets randomly cursed somehow
probability of one of these girls to crawl back to Yagoo?

>>102529047
i wholeheartedly second this

hell why not do both

>>102521765
Jp side is probably happy with a modest salary, western expects majority revenue

>>102516005
>>102516413
How does this happen?
If I'm not getting paid I'm out there first time it happens.

>>102527565
Wait is that what the bug-woman leaving was about?

>>102521732
World's Strongest Idol outlives another.

>>102522466
Lol

>>102515752 (OP)
why does Black (Company) Dragon ruin everything she touches?

>>102521800
>the moment they didn't pay
That was almost a year ago.

>>102531553
From what she said it was a slow boiling frog situation; they actually started delaying her payments for longer and longer times though they always kept up with them eventually, until they stopped paying her altogether.

total corpo death

>>102518311
I thought he was mexican

How long will it take for an official statement?

>>102517062
you're disgusting. kill yourself.

>>102533349
windy melty

>>102517062
>she sucked their cocks and got fucked by them

isn't she a woman?

>>102520332
>But mythic isnt a corpo
oh boy, I've heard this before lmao

>>102530058
>My corpo can't possibly be black
It's even funnier coming from someone who grilled niji for muh 2%, how about 0%? kek

>>102534576
Seems par for the course indeed.

>>102515752 (OP)
Deserves bitch, broke together with the company you had been shilling too hard

>>102530426
Kson's the only one who had that door open to her, and I think it's closed now. Less due to the offer expiring on Hololive's end, and more due to bad blood on her side (not to mention the shift in Hololive's company ethic in the half-decade since she was last with them).