Thread 102522581

What vtubers are not:
>they are not your friend.
>they are not your romantic interest.
>they are not single and looking by default.
>they are not obligated to keep you deluded.

What vtubers are:
>they are normal people with an avatar.
>they are here to do what they like first.
>they are here to make money.
>they give you the privilege of watching them.

You will never date a vtuber. You will never marry a vtuber. You will never even talk to a vtuber irl.
They don't exist. They're a product. Lying to yourself about this will only hurt you in the end.
If you choose to live in a fantasy, you have waived the right to complain about it when it dies.

Fuck unicorns.
Fuck gachikois.

excited to see all the schizo babble below this post

>>102522581 (OP)
The silver lining of this situation is that she just killed boyfriend posting as a bannable offense. Just like Doki killed the RM posting ban

>>102522581 (OP)
>What vtubers are:
>>they are normal people with an avatar.
>>they are here to do what they like first.
>>they are here to make money.
>>they give you the privilege of watching them.
No one watches for these reasons, nigger.

She enjoys streaming and I enjoy managing her. You're welcome Beerpals.

>>102522581 (OP)
this nigger is posting an ugly ginger he screencapped from a kill tony episode

the faggots ranting about unicorns watch kill tony unironically

Are goslings allowed? At least we're aware. But I can't stop my heart from loving my oshi.

>>102522581 (OP)
go back to twitter

>>102522581 (OP)
Don't care. Not gonna watch a vtuber who has a boyfriend. There is something inherently wrong about supporting a woman who has a boyfriend.

Cucklings doubling down so hard kekaroo

>>102523045
so you're never watching a popular vtuber again?

>>102522581 (OP)
>They're a product.
You right about that. And I'm allowed to return it of it's faulty. Announcing your marriage is on my list of returns.

>>102523179
Not if she has a boyfriend.

>>102522581 (OP)
I married my oshi.

my oshi kanna is going to be single forever fuck you guys

>>102523255
They all have one, anon

>>102522581 (OP)
>I-If my oshi a whore, y-yours probably too!!
Oh the cope! Trying so hard dragging everyone down with you.

>>102522581 (OP)
reminder that thousands of vtubers and their menagers visit /vt/ every day and try to advertise themselves while shitting on the fans and trying to sway their views.

>>102522581 (OP)
I talk to my oshi on VC on discord and get to play video games on her alt every other day. It probably wouldn't happen, but I'm closer than naplings ever would be, and its fun knowing she knows what my voice sounds like in a more intimate environment.

>>102522581 (OP)
Let's all stop pretending we don't know what kind of people are watching the vtubers we treat like idols, let's not pretend there isn't at least a baseline level of parasocialism (that the vtubers themselves play into for profit) you don't get to drop crap like that out of the blue on your cult following dedicated fan base and pretend they're wrong for having their illusion broken and being upset, it's like you guys forgot what the whole point of having the avatar and a character and a backstory and all that even meant. You are likely just as upset as everyone else, except you are coping by trying to throw other people down to make yourself look above them, rather than just grieving the loss of that illusion and moving on, don't act surprised that the rest of us will despise you and the one who shattered that illusion.

I don't think it really matters in today's day.

Even JP has accepted a monther/daughter combo vtuber channel. Less and less people give a fuck if the vtubers are virgins or not.

>>102522581 (OP)
you're a filthy normalfag, your opinion is irrelevant, you do not even watch vtubers
fuck off back to your xitter shithole with your raider friends and stop wasting catalog space, you're making me bump my small general every 15 minutes

>>102523371
My oshi has a dog instead.

>>102523516
Who are you? You clearly dont watch those channels, are you a vtuber?

>>102523560
I hope she isn't white

I just dont get why anyone even cares, she's not in hololive anymore.
Indies will never be idols, stop pretending they're anything more than streamers with an avatar.

>>102522581 (OP)
I rather not watch vtubers

>>102522581 (OP)
My oshi doesn’t have a boyfriend.
She doesn’t have a roommate.
She doesn’t go on secret vacations or lie about her private life.
She says everything in public.
She is exactly who she appears to be, 100% of the time.
She’s more real than most people pretending to be "real".

>>102523426
And then she gets fucked by her husband.

>>102523782
this bait is a little too obvious, next time only use a few of the lines you came up with

>>102523560
Hey, mine too! Does she sing and draw?

>>102523848
why would she waste hours of her day talking to me for free after he stream ends if she had one? I sure as hell wouldnt if i had a gf

How can you be a cuck for a vtuber if you never:
>expressed any interest in watching her date a man
or
>expressed interest in her romantically to her face?

Is every man that interacts with a woman he knows is involved a cuck? What about talking to a friend's wife at the dinner table? Your boss? Your doctor?

Do unicorns assume being a fan of a vtuber automatic includes an implicit romantic interest?
How do unicorns deal with the fact that chat is filled with hundreds or thousands of potential competitors?
Do they pretend they are special whenever their chat message gets read?
Does a twitter like or a youtube heart equal a kiss on the cheek for them?
What do they want their oshi to do? Lie to keep the status quo alive so they can keep fantasizing about a girl that doesn't exist liking them?

Form a sociological point of view, this is all so fascinating.

>>102524996
You already know the answer, why are you being silly? Even if it's the wrong word, It's not difficult to understand the feeling they experience when they say "cuck"

>>102522581 (OP)
>If I cuck myself, then I win
The ultimate loser mindset, just another "If I never try I can never fail"

>>102522581 (OP)
Everyone that isn't delusional already knew this, OP.
The only ones on suicide watch are the yurifags.

>>102522581 (OP)
ok

Shhh, you cannot speak based (=real in this case), you might get the brick.
But yeah, every at least semi-sane person should be aware of it.

>>102522581 (OP)
Trvth Nvke

>>102522581 (OP)
Cuckling...

>>102522581 (OP)
yes but I don't need to be reminded of it by the girl herself, you dumb fvcking retard

>>102522691
what kind of car do you drive, winner?

>>102522581 (OP)
My gf was a vtuber. Only for a few months and only a 2view, but technically I was "it" and you are wrong.

>>102522581 (OP)
cuckbakuwa cuckling

>>102522581 (OP)
Truth nuke air burst over a civilian population center

>>102525816
Glad you asked

>>102523711
Thats cause there is no reason to watch one, narcissistic women acting retarded are everywhere and the only difference here is the anime avatar

>>102522581 (OP)
Vtubers don't have girlfriends; their actresses do.
Here, let me draw for you.

>>102522581 (OP)
>What vtubers are:
>>they are normal people with an avatar.
Wrong.

>>102522825
>the faggots ranting about unicorns watch kill tony unironically

>knows what kill tony is and is upset about it

glad youre coming out of the closet finally.

>>102522581 (OP)
>vtubers are
>average streamers
So what's the point of watching then? Might as well pick non-woman streamer at this point.

>>102522760
is baby sad that the anime girl he had a crush on ended up not being real in any capacity ? Who would’ve thought . How unpredictable.

>>102522581 (OP)
vtubing is inherently predatory because nobody actually wants the content for what it is. If everyone grasped what you want them to grasp completely:
>they would not have a fraction of their viewers
>they would not make nearly as much money
>there would not be an incentive for as many people to start vtubing
>there would not be giant corporations handling millions of dollars

Nobody is paying akasupas for one stream just because the content is worth it. People often won't even pay that much for expertly produced television with a $250mil budget in a complete physical box set. This is why so many vtubers have imposter syndrome, because they know their content alone isn't valued as high as people will shill out for it and they know they are taking advantage of a psychological weakness in the opposite sex.

The fact is the majority of vtubers suck at singing, suck at playing video games, aren't that funny and for decades men have had a stereotype of tuning out women when they talk for too long. Way too much vtuber content is appreciated merely because the girl doing it is cute and they want to marry and have sex with her.

If you are asking for viewers to accept reality chuubas also need to accept reality that they are not worth a six to seven figure salary for what they do.

>>102522581 (OP)
I'm actually dating a corpo vtuber and have been for the past 4 years before she ever started so you're wrong.

if you're not an idolfag you shouldn't be watching vtubers btw

>>102523255
Based anon. If it's even hinted at. Fuck that noise, let your man support you. Not me. I dont watch streamers anyway. I could care less. But for 5 dollars a month. You better be funny as fuck. I need to be on this floor choking from spit from laughing so hard.

I got bored with vtubers a few years back and as an outsider I would like to say that at the core of it vtubers are purest form of cancer. Society has progressed from:
hookers where the exchange is honest
to wives where exchange is not honest
to camwhores where they don't even have to sex and don't even know you exist but at least you see them naked
to twitch thots where they don't even have to get naked
to vtubers where they aren't naked and they don't even have to show you their face
If you ever paid their money you have contributed money to your own sexlessness.

>>102523045
>Not gonna watch a vtuber who has a boyfriend
They all have boyfriends and husbands.
ESPECIALLY the ones who lean towards the "ooh I am so alone and celibate ooooh" crap.

>>102522581 (OP)
I don't care if a vtuber has a boyfriend, I do care when they try to market themselves as idols while getting railed behind the screen

How do these "shut in nerd women who stream and watch anime all day" meeting men?

>>102527054
Okay then learn some acting skills and start playing a character sister, because drinking tequila and playing PEAK while you tell everyone about the convention you went to in real life is not being a character. You want the protections of a "character" while not actually doing the work it takes to bring that to life. You can also expect to do very short streams because keeping that up for 8 hours will be impossible. That's why Kizuna Ai's early content was shortform.

>>102529216
AI is next. These girls time are limited.

>>102522581 (OP)
Vtubers are a bad thing

>>102523179
Possibly if they are all really lying grifters

>>102526551
>phoneposter

>>102522581 (OP)
Counterpoint: all the groomers who actually manage to fuck 2views.

>>102529331
AI would be the first time men get any power that is why I am really skeptical about it taking off (and I know what I am saying cause I follow local models since 2023).

>>102527054
I think I love Burgundy Catsberg

>>102522581 (OP)
Don't care. I'm not gonna work to subsidize some other man's love life.

>>102522581 (OP)
Sorry that your oshi was a whore, anon. Mine, on the other hand, is clear until proven guilty

>>102529324
they aren't actually shut ins and it's mostly performative to solicit donations from actual shut in men. it's a job, no different than a japanese hostess who pretends to be interested in you for the time you've paid for.

>>102528864
It's crazy how being a sad lonely fuck has turned into a multi-million dollar industry. It's probably well into the billions if you consider other industries like this.

>>102522581 (OP)
The whole hobby is build on the backs of unicorns and gachikois. Without them there is no money and without money none of the whores will stream and pretend to be your girlfriend. This whole sentiment is fucked up and honestly sounds like an arms dealer rationalizing that it is not his fault that people kill each other with his guns.

>>102529879
people already felt alienated from their local communities prior to the pandemic which simply accelerated everything to where we are now. it's not going to be solved because corps want you to be lonely so you fill the void with buying shit

>>102522581 (OP)
>What vtubers are:
>>they are normal people
What did he mean by this?

I watch vtubers because they're entertaining. I have never once deluded myself into thinking they know me. It's main character syndrome at it's finest.

If you really wanted that para-social drug you'd be following a 1-2 view and be her paypig.

>>102529907
Maybe the whole rotten industry should fall after all but the problem is bigger than vtubing. The entire entertainment industry is built on lies

>>102529907
There's streamers that aren't single like Limes or Nyanners
It's just that unicorns are the whales of the streaming world

>>102522581 (OP)
That friend? Me. That romantic interest? Also me.

>>102530651
For me it is still the issue of what is the foundation this whole thing was built upon. This friendly looking japanese uncle cares mostly about his whales. Whenever he spares the thought to people who watch girls that aren't single it is probably only as a potential way to market his product. And I am not singling vtubers out. Twitch thots are just as big of a problem as vtubers.

>>102522581 (OP)
Maybe don't cater to GFE if you can't handle the inevitable fallout once it becomes clear you got a boyfriend.

>>102529149
Idolfags are what made vtubing. entertainmentfags are normalfag tourists.

>>102522581 (OP)
>Fuck unicorns.
>Fuck gachikois.

>>102522581 (OP)
>>102522691
I see you are both holoID enjoyers

>>102522581 (OP)
>screechingneckbeard.png
perfect

>>102523560
I love ERB, Charlie!
I LOVE ERB!!!

>>102522581 (OP)
Beg all you want, i don't want to watch whoever you are screeching about

>>102522581 (OP)
>defending ewhores

>>102529602
>>102527054
Hey do you think you could draw a full version of Burgundy haha

>>102522581 (OP)
Vtubing is livestream roleplay, if you arent playing a character its not vtubing
Nimi nightmare can not marry somebody because she doesnt exist, some deranged foid has hijacked the character to make a statement