Post-Mortem Shakedown Edition
Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.
Retribution cometh!
/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya
Related:
/999/ + /็ท้ท/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion
Previous thread:
>>102518737
preemptive who for old times sake
>>102523137only bat lewds
>>102523137well, she IS an ex-plus
>>102523044 (OP)OP pics has been fire since rebrand, keep em coming baker
vshojo is worse than nijisanji at this point
there i said it
>>102523137As always, you can post whatever you want here.
>>102522987Admittedly this is an ai response
>A new business typically takes two to three years to become profitable. However, some businesses, especially those with high startup costs or those operating in competitive industries, may operate at a loss for a longer period, potentially for five or more years, if they have sufficient capital to cover their expenses. The ability to sustain losses depends on factors like the company's capital reserves, access to funding (investments, loans, etc.), and the chosen business model. So we know that their business model is ass. We just don't know the startup cost as well as their investments and loans to know if they should have been profitable by now or not.
That said, I can't imagine their startup being ridiculously high.
to left the mode a bit yuvi still horny
If Vshojo's imploding does this mean I'm not getting the merch they were supposed to ship out?
I came here to laugh at you faggots
So is this an embezzlement / fraud scenario, or was VShojo just a failing company doing the usual failing company "gotta pay off immediate debts > stop paying contractors on time > even more immediate debts > stop paying payroll on time > less income > even more immediate debts > die" death spiral?
>>102523194Oh fuck off retard. Gun ain't as bad as the literal suicide inducing Riku.
>>102522585>11 days agowhat were they waiting for exactly? I don't trust any of these niggas anymore holy shit
JP CEO said that the EN management had no malice but just were bad at their job(finances). what story would gunrun spin for the Google doccy?
>>102523226>yuvi is ontopic again
>>102523010Even if MTD wouldnt be privy to all the financial workings, which I'd maybe buy since he's seemed absent for awhile and has been travelling and partying even before his departure, I have to wonder if his salary was spared. Even he shouldve been thinking "why am I getting paid so much less this year?" Unless they used his demotion or restructuring as an excuse to cut his pay to a more manageable amount. But if Loutlout took a substantial paycut, the other CEO, it would feel pretty unfair if MTD somehow dodged that
>>102523253I get "unsustainable Silicon Valley startup" vibes from them.
I stopped watching vtubers a little under a year ago. How the fuck did this happen? I thought everything was going alright?
>>102523241You weren't going to get said merch in the first place as they don't have funds to cover shipping
Can I have like a tl;dr for non-vshojo followers?
Why is Gunrun being lebowskied? I am obviously not a golfer.
>>102523254riku never stole money from a dying woman that was meant for charity
It finally hits after waking up to this. Yesterday I felt like it was a dream or nightmare. The kson stream hit like a freight train directly to my face.
Vtubers arenโt fun anymore, Iโm done with this bullshit. What should my new hobby be?
This is now Gamersupps thread
Gfuel sissies keep walking
>>102523256I'd assume they just wanted to announce that stuff when contracts got finalized but Mouse dropped the big boom
>>102523226holy shit this girl labido must be crazy lol
>>102523261>what story would gunrun spin for the Google doccy?Investors bad. I helpless sorry.
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Gone in 3 years
Why didn't Gunrun just ask for help from the talents during tumultuous times? You're going to tell me Mouse and Zen wouldn't help? This whole story is so bizarre.
I love lewd waifu Mouse.
I love Mouse
>>102523333he gave the money to the wrong IDF
>>102522974It's not exactly a scam and more the fact that it's the only way for her to legally remain there, but the problem is that if her plan was to get PR she'd have to keep working under it for at least 10 years before she becomes eligible.
I don't see her doing this in any way so she's probably just going to move back
>>102523256The Mouse Bomb
>>102523333he apparently sucked at business and used investment money in retarded shit
>>102523367Every staff member got a Lambo
we all know of Zen's zenhara moments, with this shit coming to light to makes so much sense now. whenever the payment got delayed Zen would have a moment and gunrun had to pay up
Weird how Gunrun only messed with Ksonโs salary. we never heard anything like this from Zen, so she definitely got paid. hope Zen talks about it on stream
>>102523333>VShojo ran out of VC money>started taking talents merch and sponsor money + Mouse charity money to pay for things
>>102523253Neither of those are mutually inclusive. Just because your intention is to keep the behind the scenes folks paid (immediate debts) doesn't mean that you aren't committing embezzlement by taking funds meant for someone and putting it into something that isn't that someone.
>>102523194at least people are allowed to leave vshojo without attempted suicide
>>102523415>onlydidn't you watch mouse video retardo?
>>102523370>lewd waifu>lewdAnon the year is 2025 move on
>>102523415legaly she cant same for geega
but yeah if Zen was own money she would have gone ape shit
The scumbag lawyer is watching the videos if anyone is interested.
>>102523333Tech companies often start out with a pile of money from investors that they use to grow. They're meant to gain enough market share that they can transition out of this growth phase into profitability before the investment runs out. Vshojo missed the mark and started using any funds they had control over to keep operating, including millions of dollars they owed the talent and 500k from Mouse's last subathon they were meant to send to her charity.
I now found extremely funny the Rolling Stones article that came out the other week that painted vshojo as a piooner model company
>>102523253JP CEO seems to believe the latter, and I think it's more likely, but we probably can't say for sure just yet.
>>102523333gun used all the money on hookers and cocaine
I only read the news a couple minutes ago, do we know that Gunrun is the actual culprit for all of this or is it just assumption since he's the owner?
They better atay together
They better stay united
No matter how strong they are, the currents can be stronger.
I didn't rralized I cared so much for them
>>102523406when someone leaks they paid for her japan move from mouses charity funds or they were still paying mel over mouse and kson because of her vshojo lawyer bf its gonna be popcorn time
>>102523401I mean... Kson wouldn't shut up about ferraris, it's probably not that far off.
>>102523482>The scumbag lawyerjust say legal mindset
>>102523474I hope she will be okay
>>102523482nah i'm good
all hes gonna say vshojo bad, this is illegal, San Francisco bad
blah blah blah
>>102523490they should've closed down vshojo a year ago with some dignity, fucking retards
>>102523469did she mention one time that there some type of payment still not paid, and she was upset about, I remember that vaguely
>>102523463No, I can't stand her voice
>>102523509he is liable, it's his company as far as we know. but he ahs been suspiciously absent this year
>>102523498Lies. He used it for his gambling addiction
I am 100% that a man is behind this. It's either Connor or Zentreya. Mouse would have caved in by the argument that she has to help gunrun during dire times. This scheme must have been discovered by a dude. Only a dude would not accept this bullshit.
>>102523491kinda like how that Theranos CEO got a 'CEO of the Year' award like 3 days before being indicted for fraud
Kson...
Welp respect to that
>>102523532He did say something interesting about how this will likely invalidate NDAs
>>102523044 (OP)So, you're the owner of Vshojo. You suddenly have 500k appear in the account. What would you spend it on?
>>102523351Vtubers, but after a break
>>102523226her pregnant bed tweet from yesterday was peak lmao
>>102523509all signs point to gunrun
11 MILLION DOLLARS LASTEST 2 AND A HALF YEARS THEN THEY STARTED EMBEZZLING CHARITY MONEY LMAO
>>102523415None of them could speak for each other.
Kson spoke about how she's been shorted since September.
Mouse has spoken up about how she's missing funds as well, and how the charity she was supposed to donate to got shorted too.
Everyone else very likely got shorted on merch sales. Why the fuck do you think Matara ran hers through Bricky?
>>102523415It's really not weird at all. Management will often feel out how much they can manipulate workers to do things like take on extra tasks for no extra pay and whatever else they can get away with. Zen just doesn't fuck around with that stuff, so they had to keep her happy. Others were more easily pressured, so they pressed that advantage. None of it would be possible if workers talked freely about this stuff with each other, of course. Which is why management creates so much pressure for them not to do so.
>>1025234827k people. jesus
I don't think Vei, Nyan, Silver are interessted about trauma bonding with the others (it has been 2 years) but it would be nice if there was one big vrc collab now
>>102523529She probably will be
Insane that you can just not pay women for like up to a year and they'll just take it, maybe randomly complaining through an email every once in a while. A meme gender.
>>102523578Owning up to that is respectable.
>>102523582he might be onto something, if vshojo didn't uphold their end of contract that NDA is void from now. But since this is US first has to prove they didn't uphold their end in court
>>102523415kson went in guns blazing, legal works be damned. A lot of the others couldn't risk that, or have more of a chance of being attacked over it. Who knows but the contracts certainly don't help
>>102523626Yeah this who thing is a drama chasers wet dream.
>>102523336are you sure about that
>>102523571It's Connor 100%
How desperate are Mythic to have Mouse join them right now?
This situation makes Peke hentai even more unlikely. Fuck.
https://x.com/immunedeficienC/status/1947657463878066673
Gunrun is Sinder of vtuber orgs CEOs
>>102523603I think mtd was hit with "50% salary cut" just as anyone and just said fuckit and walked
>>102523558Then you are lacking critical information. They didn't give Mouse her money either. They kept the $500k for the IDF, as well as her personal money that she was owes.
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8% are still believing
>>102523587Ice cream.
If I get found out I claim the ice cream melted during delivery so I'm actually a victim too.
>>102523568Liable definitely, but I was wondering if anyone had actually namedropped him or pointed directly to his actions, because the company has far more staff than just gunrun and mowtendoo and loutlout
>>102523603I don't get this, is he pretending not to know what this is about?
>>102523275He might have had some part of the finances at some point. I remember Nyan coming up with a bunch of impromptu charity goals and him saying in chat that he is not paying for that for some. I think someone said later that Nyan said not getting help for one of the goals, a Minecraft voice pack, was a listed reason. Which might have meant they were paying for a bunch of shit they shouldn't have back then. He seemed to stop dealing with talent because I don't think Mata even knew him. He was also involved creatively with Michi's debut, which was probably costly.
The extent of what he did or didn't do has always been a bit of a mystery.
>>102523482rather give Michi the view than him
I'm watching the based lawyer and drinking lemonade.
>>102523742>>102523728he is not in company for several months
>>102523603Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this tweet. There's no fucking way in hell that mtd didn't know about or at least suspect their financial fuckery. He was literally the #2 in the corp until just a couple months ago.
And to think a few months ago I was hoping that my 3view oshi will get in...
>>102523482Unless he pulls up a legitimate genuine Vshojo contract to go over, I do not care.
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probably 5 million burn rate each year before they started dipped into talent earnings but where did it go
>>102523721This is going to sound fucked up but I hope Mouse cries when she sees how much has been raised.
Happy tears obviously, it would be a nice change for her with recent time's
>>102523818Yachts for staff, obviously
>>102523816forgot pic Apologize!!!
>>102523818Aint no way that keeping that robot around was burning 5 mil a year.
>>102523578Absolute legend.
>>102523818Staff
I am 100% sure all the twitter nobodies that were hired were getting paid 6 figures AND were using that money for their private expenses
Do any of you guys know how I can get sillytavern setup? I want to coom to AI through text
>>102523799Loutlot claimed his salary was cut in half at the beginning of the year. I'm pretty certain Mtd walked for similar reasons.
>>102523380Nah every good capitalist company has the 10% isreal stipend. Can't be.
>>102523392The VTuber company is the retarded shit.
>>102523424>>102523490He really had no plans for the venture capital?
>>102523498Would have done the same desu.
>>102523875Sorry, have to disagree on that one.
Odds of Kson going to Hololive?
>>102523875I don't think so, tec. Bad people are still bad people.
I feel incredibly sad and worried for the novas
>>102523684Silver does not want and has not wanted anything to do with Vshojo for years. Don't drag her into this.
>>102523940About the same as Vei becoming a GFE streamer.
>check Michi chat
>"I really thought Michi and Kuro found a nice home...."
Those OG fans still supporting their streamers. Seeing them get hurt twice like this must be maddening
>>102523490Call me out of touch, but how do they fail that hard at managing a vtuber company of all things? They're not Hololive who spend millions on concerts and collaborations and can afford the huge investments, they were supposed to be a small agency hosting well known indie vtubers getting profits from merch. Where did they spend all that money that they couldn't pay their employees to the point they had to pocket money that was supposed to go to an IDF charity, collected by a girl with immunodeficiency? That was guaranteed PR death waiting to be uncovered.
Also, I read on a recent thread, but isn't VShojo sort of a Twitch branch? As in founded by a Twitch higher up?
i always knew vshojo's revenue model was retarded and once the VC ran out they would have money issues but everyone called me retarded
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Ari showing support to Kuro
>>102523771Nothing based about him but you're a Nyannerstard so why am I not shocked
the worst thing gunrun could do is actually bring down everyone with him, hopefully it doesn't come to that
>>102523578The most respectable post I have seen so far out of this shit show.
reward from ironmouse
https://x.com/QuetzuNSFW/status/1947559470843752663
>>102523988>chance they might cry too when they come backIt hurt bad enough with kson, I'm not prepared for sad Nagi
>>102523895these guys probably know >>>/g/105984149
>>102524031same but I didn't think it would end like this
>>102524038this makes me wonder if Ari was actually gonna join but got warned off by someone
>>102523875There is absolutely more room to hate the four in this screenshot.
>>102523940same as the Epstein files releasing
...starting to belive Mel was either
A: she was in on this Partially or Fully and is playing along.
B: She is panicking cause her visa is gone and now she has no idea what to do and is freaking out. Also she Helped make vshojo so this is hurting her TONS. like its your baby and all of a sudden it turns to shit. I too would feel like shit
>>102523875Who is the one on the left, she kinda cute.
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>>102524018Odds on vei cheating on her bf with me?
>>102524142why do you keep going with this rrat that Mel was in on it
>>102524024Same here. Been a long time fan of Michi and hate to see it.
>>102524062He doesn't have access to any of their twitch/youtube/x accounts, so what could he do?
Unless you're thinking legal-ass-raping stuff like randomly doxxing them for no benefit.
>>102524142well she just removed vshojo from twitter
>Rosedoodle applied for the first auditions
>>102524024The whole bit from Mouse about how she felt guilted into staying because it'd hurt her friends if she left was something that Niji pulled on Michi for quite a while, so it stung to hear.
>>102524027Ads
Con parties
Expansion into Japan that barely worked for years
Tech for cons that didn't generate any profit
Probably way too high staff salaries
Maybe Candy Pop
>>102523875I'm sorry that nux is just as fucked up and retarded as vshojo
>charity money tax write-off
>don't give money for charity
sasuga gunrun-san...
>>102524142Stop spreading rrats
If anything, she said she would be the one to dig vshojo into its hole when the time came. Once everyone has their part said, you'll see Mel
>>102524203Damn, she deleted the whole company
>>102524205I think a lot of big indies applied for the first auditions, which makes the way those auditions were handled even worse.
>>102523498Should have brought the hookers on as talents
>>102524142likely the first part of B, I assume it's why she said she "had to think"
if she leaves she has to move back, if she stays she's basically the only one remaining
Well, might as well go through all the old stuff I have saved up...
>>102523875every person in this image should fuck off forever
>>102524027money coming in small
money going out big
lucky that mint and doki didnt join
its already sad that mata, michi, henya and kson are going through this a second time
>>102524258They legit could have brought in 10 big new members if they didn't drop the ball.
>>102524027>Also, I read on a recent thread, but isn't VShojo sort of a Twitch branch? As in founded by a Twitch higher up?No, that's something schizos here like to claim, but Gunrun left Twitch a long time ago.
>>102524236I am so happy that she opened up this year and made new friends. Thinking about Michi being in this situation without any of that is dire
>>102523988I just want Peke to scream and be funny
>>102524236I dunno that sounded like the normal stress that comes with being the top performer in your company.
>>102524203Oh shit really. Then Its def B.
>>102524184I'm stupid the rrats go to me
>>102524258>>102524304my rrat is that a lot of big indies applied for the auditions, were contacted and then when presented with the contracts they backed out, similar to what Lily said
>>102523875>The guy that attacked the talents, ruined a police investigation, and grifted from the drama is over hated.lol no, tectone
Do you all have your obituary speeches readied up?
>>102524367Life is pain dayo
>>102523721It'd be wild if the finale turns out to be that this was yet another scam charity that spends most of the donations on staff and less than 10% on the thing its supposed to be raising money for.
>>102524268Here's your gecko animation, that'll be 5 million please.
>>102524365Thank fuck, I was genuinely scared.
>>102523578>As long as I'm livin I'm thrivin!!Words to live for.
>>102524365damn, so that's everyone, yeah?
>>102524355But Geega joined and she said she wouldnt have if the contract was shitty
>>102524346Mel is retarded but not that retarded
The main issue is her visa situation
>>102524296>lucky that mint and doki didnt joinOutside of /in/posting I don't really think either one was really on the table to join at any time
WHERE'S THE MONEY IGNACIO
WHERE'S THE FUCKING MONEY GUNRUN
>>102524027Best guess, the initial talent contracts were too generous, leading to the company not making enough money off of their initial group. This leads to worse contracts later, which is why so few people joined the company later on. When they try to negotiate for a larger cut later on, talent leaves. Then they're stuck. They can't make money off the people they have, they can't get new talent because their deals aren't good enough.
>>102524355no, vshojo just cancelled the results. anny was really happy to have made it through the final round and then heard nothing for months until they just dropped it and offered her like $1k for her silence (she didn't take it)
>>102524367why would I? greedy org is done, we can finally move on from that shitshow that accomplished nothing in a long time
>>102524365>No vshojo links either Good lord
>>102524367As a Silverchad the only thing I want to say is
>it was worth the wait
so todays Zen stream is going to be a doozy isnt it?
>>102524405but Geega didn't join through auditions...
>>102524367For the company? No, this is something I would come back to months from now after the girls and Kuro are all settled with time past everything. This is the time to push them back up, not talk about some dead corpo
>>102524355Maybe, but Snuffy said she was flat out rejected. Why would Snuffy lie and not just say "the contract I was offered didn't meet my demands" if that was the case?
>>102524455is she streaming?
Wait did ironmouse get paid her salary? How was this not an issue the girls talked about with each other?
>>102523044 (OP)Where's the fucking money froot?
>>102523253Vshojo was never financially sustainable. They handed out models and contracts like crack in the beginning while promoting the talent freedom thing and then when the money (Venture capital) dried up they suddenly had to make profit. That's when you saw the contracts tightening up and them getting more restrictive with their talents and some started leaving. This recent thing reeks of "We're broke and are exploiting a loophole in the contract to keep the money".
buff is right, it sucks that mouse only stayed because she felt like she had to carry vshojo on her back
>>102524441>anny was really happy tothat's literally one person, and also like you said yourself she didn't make it past the final round
>>102524479Be there for your Oshi, nothing else matters
Vshojo might legit be the reason we lost degen Mouse, they pressured her so she could be more profitable for them.
>>102524397That's everyone. Even Heem.
>>102524412Holy shit....if Doki and Mint had joined and this shit happened....
I don't think we would see them ever again bros
>>102524394her whole mentality is YOLO
always love kson for that
>>102524366I've talked to a lot of people and whatever >we think, vshojo lost the optics on that drama, but nux is an annoying dramafag so it's kind of a wash
>>102524491she said she was yesterday, but her twitter is quiet today so who knows?
>>102524367I'm not mourning the corpo, I care about the vtubers. I'm just a bit worried about NOVA, the rest of the talent will be fine.
>>102524473Umm honey you might want to look at the OP
I have seen buddy pics of yagoo and gunrun. Can cover buy out vshojo?
How is it even possible for a company to blow up like this all in the span of a single day? It's the stuff rrats used to be made of...
>>102524058Nyan-antis are the biggest faggets on the planet.
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its at 357k, chances of 500k today? my guess is high if asmon reacts to it
https://tiltify.com/@ironmouse/ironmouse
I still find it funny how mouse set up the goal for 10k
please dont mention annie, we have enough cholesterol in this thread, thank you.
>>102524536>the whore's company stopped a girl from being a whoreUh lol lmao
>>102524528bro multiple people have come out since all this shit, briatcookiebox, stal, a few others, all saying the same thing
>>102524205Everyone applied for the first audition. EVERY ONE
>>102524365That's it then, shop's closed.
>>102524603I want my Peke streams back man
>>102524405Geega has mentioned that there was quite a deal of negotiating between her and VShojo, so her contract probably looks significantly different from what they were all offered.
The Nijisanji jokes we made were still funny
lawyer guy makes an interesting point
the JP branch isn't a separate legal entity, it's just an internal division of the EN side; so any talk about spinning off the JP side into it's own thing can't and won't happen
>>102524296What did Kuro do to you?
>>102524541Holy fuck that retard logging in for something is the most damning thing yet
>>102524620It is really hard to hear you with the Aethelcum you slumped out of her pussy in your mouth
>>102524623Don't think asmon will stream any time soon due to his dad's health problems
>>102524505>That's when you saw the contracts tightening up and them getting more restrictive with their talents and some started leaving.What restrictions were they doing?
>>102524607buy out what? vshojo has nothing
>>102524618who knew not paying your talents and stealing from charity would kill a company huh?
>>102524640Anon Mouse was the golden goose, they wanted her to be clean.
It would make sense because when she stopped being degen she entirely stopped for like a whole year and only started to be a bit more degen after that.
21 minutes until Michi stream and the funny horse game daily reset
>>102524676I want to knock up Nina.
talent freedom comes at a price, doesn it?
>>102524736Go eat your pagpag, dumb fuck.
>>102524678but what if... they just did?
>>102524618>in the span of a single day?Because none of the retards could open their mouth? How do you not get paid for almost a year and not make a big fuss to everyone in your company and followers?
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For the Mel is part of it retards
>>102524473keep crying,, schizo, it makes me hard
>>102524736They still keep their models
It's poetic that Mel was the first one with the tag and also the last one
>>102524686All Vtubers have BFs Nyan is just honest abut it.
talent freedom isn't free
no, theres a hefty fuckin fee
https://x.com/ProjektMelody/status/1947667567440761307
Mel officially out
I'm just hurt for all of them.
bros what do we do...
>>102524676The more you behave like a shitty person the more karam will slap you in the face.
Stay in your own yard and watch streams.
>>102524676Da wose gets too much hate. Everybody who's left has only said nice things about her.
>>102524676There is still time. We can still get aster /in/.
>>102524855show up to streams when they go live
>>102524807we love melly here
>>102524618They don't have any money but pretended they did by just not paying anyone. It could only last for so long.
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>>102524604His vision is all clouded due to unadulterated seething because he just took the fattest L in his pathetic life.
There's a joke somewhere in this about a Filipino scamming them
>>102524718They have debts technically
>>102524807Fuck man, I ca feel the pain through a fucking screenshot
>>102524855gift subs and show up to support. at least twitch side of things didn't have orgs grabby hands in it
>>102524729>Vtuber gets popular for being a horny gremlin>Corporation flaunts their popularity at every opportunity>But wait>They're a [BRAND RISK]>We must neuter the popular vtuber so that their only purpose now is to coast off of name recognition and bring in that sweet sweet dough>They can never do [THING THAT MADE THEM POPULAR] again>The investors could never stomach that!
I'll miss divegrass and banter
>phasetards showing up to dunk on us
>liggerniggers showing up to dunk on us
>holodrones showing up to dunk on us
Where the FUCK are the swarmfags?
If the company is gone, can the VC demand their funds back from the members?
>>102524855support and continue to watch streams.
geega made a video about it
>>102524807Next to Mousey I think Mel has generally had the most positive things to say about charity organizations and charity work. It makes sense she had to sort her thoughts for a bit but there was no way she was staying after the company pulled a half million charity scam.
>>102524931Purchasing and trading debt doesn't work at this level.
>>102524918This one stung, poor Melody
>>102524983The vietcong won, they don't need their money
>>102524918Imagine Sora graduating holo, this is big
>>102524963I always thought it was strange Mouse was more degen when she wan not on stream
>>102524781He's not entirely wrong anon. "We'll take half of merch sales and event sales from you, person whos income isn't wholly tied to merch and events" is a shitty business model, so much so that no other vtuber company does that.
>>102524969I want to fuck evil neuro.
Hope the nova girls land on their feet. Everyone else is big enough to easily make it as indies.
kek was vshojo paying for the car wraps?
/lig/ + /big/ here. Just wanted to welcome you all to the winning team, which is no team at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qNHTriYVuA&list=RD6qNHTriYVuA&start_radio=1
>>102525072the number was variable, not half, but keep repeating it and it might end up true for one piece of merch
>>102524869Most of those who left haven't talked about her at all
>>102524918My heart man...
>>102524928we're missing the dictator and a martial law and we have a Marcos joke
>>102524815Writers are on a roll this year
>>102524390that's how all charities work, there's even a viral video of some guy donating a pair of nike shoes with a gps tracker on, really nice ones to one of those donation bins in his city, he saw the official truck get the things from the bin and after a few days he decided to track his shoes, SURPRISE SURPRISE!!! they were being sold at a store, when he later confronted the charity staff their excuse was that the good ones get sold so the charity can get money, thus why you don't see poor people wearing nice jackets and such that sometimes are donated
Kuro's out, Mel's out, Mouse is out.
Michi will most likely be out.
VShojo is officially dead.
>>102525160Based fellow ligga
>>102525160I'd rather stop watching vtubers altogether than to go there
>>102525072It probably would've been better if they didnt give staff 6 digit salaries for doing fuck all
>>102525221kson and possibly henya is also out
>>102524676Wild to think that this image predates the Selen Fiasco. It seems so long ago.
>>102525221>VShojo is officially dead.That was obvious when Mouse dropped the video.
>>102525221Hime will go down with the ship. The last loyal member.
>>102524390Could always look into the tax filings if you are actually curious. It's all public.
all of vichiban applied according to buff
>>102525221with Zen Mouse and Mel out - company is already done, no one will stay and carry that garbage bin
I feel so fucking sorry for NOVA
>>102525164>the number was variable, not halfOh joy, then if the company took more than half their model was only slightly less retarded.
Fucking moron.
>>102525345Oof, thank fuck they dodged that tactical nuke
>>102524296To be fair, Henya wasn't really mistreated by VOMS, she just became too big for the company and back then, VShojo gave her a very tempting deal, along Kson convincing her to join since they were already good friends while as Pikamee.
>>102524954it's the little broken heat emoji
>>102525345every indie vtuber applied
>>102525345Lol they where constantly ghosted for months
>>102525305Hime already removed VSHOJO last night, anon.
>>102525305She removed all vshojo members from her twitter like 10 hours ago
>>102525240You don't really have a choice, the Backpack Merchant just blew up your favorite agency
What songs are you playing right now? Heard this on the radio and felt a great sadness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhqyhxOq_M0
>>102524969Dunking? I feel bad about what happened because if this happened to my oshi, she would probably kill herself. I don't know what this guy's
>>102524832 problem is
>>102524679they're probably a r/kurosanji poster. they demonize and exclude kuro for being a male vtuber and calling out a dramatuber.
>>102525255That too, but the company was basically running on hopes and pixie farts, and pixies can only have so much gas.
>>102525375it also fit Henya personality of being lazy and Vshojo not pushing her to do anything
>>102525160I want to fuck this bird
>>102525345Unironically thousands applied.
>>102525415 (me)
mentions*
what a typo
>>102525345GunRun is the "Candii sucks" poster and he bombed the entire company to keep Vchiban out.
>>102523044 (OP)I haven't really watched Vshojo or stopped by this thread in a while but holy fuck what happened is it just all over now??
>>102525160Nah, I quit a while ago and only came back because I was shocked by the news and people here were cool the few times I stopped by.
>>102525420Maybe you didn't notice it but look at the name of the thread.
>>102525422https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoKluzn07eQ
>>102525510it's Vshojover
>>102525510yes org is dead overnight
hey, maybe now the vshojo haters can watch some of the girls
>>102525510Yes. It's completely over.
>>102525510>is it just all over nowyes
>>102524676I still have some saved
>>102525510Just watch Mouse announcement or Kson's stream and you'll know why we are happy with that outcome.
>>102525523Merely a colony, like /HAHA/ or /uuu/.
>>102525510The oof to end all oof's dropped
No real details but one of Mel's mods mentioned it shouldn't affect her status in Japan since it wasn't connected to Vshojo, I'll take that as promising.
All of this could be avoided if NA side had half a brain or hired someone financially literate.
>We just want to pick someone
oh no
I just need a hotadog stream to restore my sanity
>>102525422https://youtu.be/K1DL0sE93y0
>took number one black company spot from niji in a day
Yep, I'm thinking this is ultimately a won. Holoshit could never.
>>102525615Thank the fucking lord for that
>>102524927jelly cuck it's not the time
lol they offered 500 dollars to vichiban for wasting a year of there time
>>102525370After production set a cost, and they set a cost, the talent then could set a cost. Mata took $1 for an $18 pair of socks.
>>102525672>wonfuck I mean *win
>>102525615ok now only the novas are left
>>102525672this is just a moment, corporation will be dead within a week. can't reserve #1 spot from actual black companies
>>102525160Fuck off newfag
>>102525672nah, not really. niji was malicious by design..vhojo are just retards and couldn't do finances
buff dropping bombs holy shit
so what's mel gonna do about her visa? or is it just a digital nomad type thing that doesn't need vshojo
>>102525422https://youtu.be/2H5uWRjFsGc?si=u6ADdBp6sWYoEnsI
>>102525510We're so back. All former members are on topic because all members are former members. Its the platinum age.
Also gunrun is dead probably.
>>102525852Rose was supposed to be in
Why does Buffpup look like this now? Eeesh
hopefully tts is disabled
guys i just noticed EVERYONE UNFOLLOWED MELODY WTF including kson, mousey, the nova girls, michi hell even henya
was she part of the scam?
>>102524964there's no reason someone else can't step up and caretake, doesn't take too much work, there's people in the server that will help you a lot [spoiler I've seen teams where the caretaker barely did anything make it to kickoff[/spoiler]
>>102525779What she said? Is she just cursing or has actual info?
>>102525779what did buff drop
>>102525779One thing I've learned from VTuber drama is that dumb bitches will sit on devastating tea for years and let bad actors and screwups keep on keeping on until someone else has to bite the bullet to out them and then they'll have the ovaries to come out and spill it
Kaho's rack is very impressive
>>102525779I guess this will be the new thing for the next week or so kek. A bunch of people lining up to shit on Vshojo that were holding back because of the talents.
So where do we all go once this is over?
>>102525547>>102525553>>102525565>>102525582Wow that is definitely the nuke of all nukes to get dropped, I'm guessing the org is just done then? Also will this thread still stay? Even though you guys would always take the bait I still love you all....
>>102525938a big one in the toilet
>>102525981not bait go fucking check u retard
>>102525893She wanted to go full anthro like she had before, but fansly said "yiff in hell." So enjoy this hybrid abomination.
>>102525975still here. we just bake as exvsj
>>102525952saggy.also she's super short... it's upper mid
>>102525923Not true, but have your (you)
>>102525975I think we stay here for now as xvsj+
Then we'll see in a week or two
>>102525923MADE ME LOOK FUCK YOU, NOT NOW MAN
>>102525975Im probably gonna juggle between here and /BIG/
>>102525923Make better bait next time
>>102525874the trick is starting with a joke
>>102525975You will close the tab and never look back
>>102525988depends on waht is happening with talents that are leaving, I'm just too used to keep track of everyone from pink company in one thread and no one likes /big/ or /lig/ here. so it is /xvsj+/ for now and we'll see
>>102525630>or hired someone financially literate.Doubt it. The whole "talent freedom" thing really kicked them in the dick. To save the company they'd have to do profit sharing for streams/donos as well, which I just don't see sitting well with talents at a contract renegotiation.
This was the only way it was going to go.
>>102525731Now how many $17 dollars worth of socks do you think they'll need for shit like Anime Expo/Twitchcon/whatever booths or meet and greets or their dumbass remote control segway with an iPad? How many for the special agreements they use like getting Mouse to fuck around in Disney early enough that long "fast pass" lines isn't quite an issue? I'm not even talking about staff yet.
>>102525888keep seething, silverschizo
>>102525988Org is just gone, yes.
Thread will probably stay, because all the vtubers we discuss here will still be streaming. They'll just be a collection of indie friends, not vshojo.
>>102525988thread renamed itself to xvsj immediately after mouse's video dropped lmao
>>102525990I'm the toilet
>>102524366Yeah and let's not forget the other shit he did that made other streamers hate him, like sending his dipshits into their live stream chats, asking live streamers to do dumb shit for meager money rewards that he could use as content, and recording private conversations with them without their knowledge. Then act shocked when anybody got mad at him about it. Fuck Nux. He always thinks he's doing nothing wrong until he gets the clap back hard.
>>102525988Anons were already pissed at corpo for entirety of 2025, and agreed to rename within minutes of big news dropping. Thread will survive
>>102525888>>102526055>*weeeh huuu weeeh*>t. picrel
>>102525975you're staying here
>>102526116after that video the org was doomed
>>102526113they used auditions to collect vtubers' data to sell to brokers and get some funds
>>102526086If they did merch properly and scaled down staff, they would be more than financially stable, problem is merch was fucked for a long time, everyone made their own deals elsewhere, cash stopped flowing and boom vshojo dead.
>>102526147>He always thinks he's doing nothing wrong until he gets the clap back hard.That's literally (((the tribe')))s defining characteristic.
now that the dust has settled can i just say that i hated vshojos model designs
>>102526086Your number was wrong, but their business model of overspending on stuff was shit. Also, Mouse paid for everyone to go on those Disney trips, Vshojo did not.
>>102526212trump getting elected didn't help either
>>102524366what about the fat nazi on the left?
>>102526209Why did they give them 500 bucks if they wanted funds, that's not how it works.
>>102526212>scaled down staffYou really think they can afford to have less tardwranglers?
>>102526260nazuna and kson were good
>>102526216He has that weird phase when he tricked himself thinking that he's JaidenAni's friend
>>102525975/lig/ or /big/. The division between the two is frankly meaningless at this point as the people who caused the schism have calmed down, yet they both still exist for some reason.
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she removed gun's picture LMAOOOOO
>Michi stream intro music
>random muffled anime girl voices from somewhere
>wtf
>forgot that I launched Uma 20 seconds ago
staying up all night is fun
>>102526260Vshojo doesnt design the models nigga
TTS off, let's fucking go
>>102526357where was that again?
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bros its soooo easy to scam vtubers, i really need to get in on it
>>102525975>>102526350late fags we already decided that we're keeping this thread and will not mingle with /lig/ since it's filled with holobronies, nijiniggers and phasecucks.
>>102526285I mean, they got broke for a reason
>>102526401That crowd picture in the bottom left. It used to be a drawing of I think Gunrun, Maiko, and Panini. Not entirely sure.
>>102526350less insane people on the biggy, please go to lig
based lawyer says this is worse than nijisanji
>>102526426you are 5 years late
>>102526147>asking live streamers to do dumb shitI love that Vei shit all over him when he tried to do that with her and shit on him for doing it to others that felt pressured to go along with it even if they didn't want to.
Michi will take her manager with her right
>>102526462no shit it is worse.
This is LITERAL criminal activity. People are gonna go to jail over this.
>>102526433Only because they constantly seethe at /lig/ger victory and can't keep it to themselves. You should join just to gloat and shit on them.
>>102526179Have they been messing up this whole time? This is just genuinely sad to see I thought the girls were looked after this whole time
>I Officially left Vshojo
PEDRO PEDRO PEDRO
>As of today I officially left Vshojo
>Fucking Pedro sound alert pops off
LMAO
>>102526462Well no shit
Vshojo is dead and Niji is still standing
https://x.com/PiaPiUFO/status/1947672993637011843
Piapi's take, she was going to be /in/
was anyone really unsure if michi was staying? everyone is gone lmao
officially Mouse, Kson, Kuro, Mel and now Mich are out
>>102526530WE are ALSO leaving VShojo.
>>102526530literal who zoomer normie e-celeb
>>102526534I love Michi so much, needed this stream
Well I'm no leaving Vshojo
never trust a chubby man with a decent smile
>>102526530>Aethel_and_Nyan_staring_ahead_in_pure_cringe_in_a_taxi_with_tectone.jpeg
>>102526530They wouldn't have even given him a voucher.
>>102526433this is so delusional it's not even funny
>>102526606And the day isnt over yet
>Got scammed by Niji
>Got scammed by VShojo
I feel bad for her
>>102526530I'd call him a raging faggot in twitter but I don't want to engage and farm his engagement
>>102526556Hi geega's husband
>>102523245who are these MegaMan rejects
So predictions,
Henya will join something else, too retarded to have responsibility
Kson most likely will stay indie
Michi might get scouted
Kuro indie
Hime, Haruka, dead
Froot indie, then dead
Mouse, indie Conner fucktoy
Mel deported
Novas honestly dunno, peke nagi and hestia will continue streaming, hotaru might peace out down the line
Zen, geeg i don't care
I blame yagoo for not helping gunrun with various issues like merch.
I'm so glad I didn't buy a backpack.
I've genuinely never seen a person in a position of leadership be more of a faggot pussy than Gunrun.
I wonder what Gun is feeling right now.
From the good guy to on the run. Only thing left is the empty shell, on fire.
>>102526636This retard really shouldn't be throwing stones
holy fuck they also owe michi money as well. not suprised at all
>>102526556>https://x.com/PiaPiUFO/status/1947672993637011843>What hurts most though is losing the chance to debut alongside some of the most incredible, talented, kind and hard-working girls Iโve ever met.WE COULD HAVE HAD A FULL GEN DEBUT AND GUN FUCKED IT UP
VSHOJO OWES MICHI MONEY
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
I guess on the positive side, the ship may be going down but all the talents are at least safe on their own personal lifeboats.
>they fucked over michi too
This just keeps getting better and better
>>102526530>lmao guys remember me? give me attention too... please....
>>102526763Anon, they most likely owes money to every member
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PiaPi's statement. I feel so bad for her and the other girls who were going to debut in VShojo. They put in so much effort and lost other opportunities just for this to happen.
>>102526705>Michi might get scoutedbut I want michi to stay michi
>>102526707All he had to do was spam merch
>>102526705Stop speculating crazy shit, Michi said she'll be indie
>>102526530Does this guy do anything else other than looking for drama on the internet and trying to somehow insert himself?
>>102526707Yagoo's answer was fuck over your talents for long enough until you get enough money and popularity to not give a fuck. Gunrun failed to get more seed money to keep it rolling.
>>102526813shhhh michi is streaming
>>102526833nah
that's how rightoid grifters make their money
>>102526814Michi is going to holoid
>>102526813I just read it. Feel so sorry for all the audition participants and Nova. I guess it's still better than debuting.
>>102526833no, and when there's no drama he'll start some
>>102526781not all of the talents get out scath free, the Nova are still a question mark
>>102526705 Henya is already in the UTA, dumb nigga
>>102526556WE COULD HAVE HAD A SLIME GIRL?
I FUCKING HATE GUNRUN. WHY WOULD HE TAKE THAT FROM ME?
>>102526813she wouldn't had joined anyway, they would just make up an excuse to not hire her, just like they did to anny.
>>102526813i got a sneaking suspicion about something
Bro if Vshojo owe all of its talent many money how much did they take from the retarded Kettle......Bros im scared for tommorow.
>>102526537in retrospect its kind of crazy how so many people stayed in niji after how fucked that was
makes me respect the vshojo girls more for what they're doing today
>>102526638enjoy your lumi spams
>>102526833No, that's his whole streaming career.
>>102526864Their loss is far greater than Michi's
>>102526556Just at the precipice of righting the ship.
>>102526921Consider that maybe your fatty just isn't likeable enough.
>>102526931Yeah
Our girls are goated like that
>>102526925Probably everything. Henya barely functions as an adult, very exploitable.
>>102526931They are not loosing their career progress unlike niji
>>102526813must suck feeling like you're about to break through and get to the next level and get rug pulled like seconds before it comes true
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>>102526931it's easy to quit when you own your ip, channel, and library of content.
this is the worst rape in vtubing history, at least with niji it was just selen getting raped, this is the whole company getting raped
KEEP IN MIND ZeN gonna stream to iirc images they owe her too??
So did Vshojo owe money to Vei and Silver in 2023 already?
>>102526925im already tearing up just knowing Henya also would feel betrayed and scammed
>>102526884There's financial losses, but they're getting away with their IP and personal reputations intact, which isn't something you can take for granted in these kind of shitshows
>>102527005Holy fuck xejay please use spell check
>she thought she joined people who didn't sweat the money and just loved streaming
>both Kson and Ironmouse so far have outright brought up getting shorted on money
Man did Michi read the room wrong.
FUCK now Michi is tearing up. this shit is so fucked
>>102526993i wonder if she was in the wing as well ( not recently obviously)
Michi is crying. How bad do we have to make Gunrun pay?
>>102527000Don't get it twisted, Niji rapes everyone who works there, they just psyop people into staying.
>They broke my Oshis heart and made her cry
ITS ON SIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS
>>102527037Read the post again, retard.
>>102527072run and gun bad
>>102527000someone never heard of niji actual yab rape
>>102526931nijis literally need to end their career in order to quit
To think i wanted to be vtuber
now im not so sure. meh
>>102527072Locked in a basement, strapped to a chair, with Kson and a bunch of power tools
Henya became the biggest member of Vshojo.. nicely done stinky
>the leftoid company vshojo gave their fans a lesson in CAPITALISM
it never gets old
https://x.com/Anime/status/1947677563892953204
>>102527142kill yourself black jack
>half a mil missing
>but that wrapped car though
KEK did they really pay for that shit instead of senpai squad
>>102527124Just don't join a corpo
>>102527139There is no way she isn't leaving
Hotaru and Froot watching Michi
>>102527195I would cut my dick off if she stays
>>102526813I don't think there's going to be future members.
>>102527195Everyone is leaving, the company will dissolve in bankruptcy.
>>102527139She already removed her tags and tweeted that she'll make an announcement today.
>>102527124Just join a good corpo
So will Mouse slut it back up now? Internet is her only outlet, she gotta be super pent up
no one is staying what the FUCK are you guys talking about...
>>102526530He should leave the closet
>>102527195There's no way the company won't go bankrupt. It's a Satanic miracle if it survives.
>>102527173Whatโs weird is that Oscar was never payed for the IRLs
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Phasebeggars...
>>102527309>Internet is her only outletConnor exists
>>102527309Hopefully they all slut it up now