Thread 102534151

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Mint <3
Nimi <3

Can someone explain to me what I am supposed to be outraged by? Was Mint supposed to end her friendship over this?

funny how all the positive replies are women

i love not being parasocially attached to any streamers and just watching them for entertainment value

>>102534151 (OP)
strap in folks, i gave minki perms to announce our wedding next month.

>>102534151 (OP)
Pure lesbian cope

>>102534390
then why watch women? they are not funny
if you hear a guy say "she's funny" what he means is "i want my lips around her nipples and my cock inside her pussy"

>>102534616
stop projecting, stop watching porn, go outside and get a girlfriend

>>102534783
you are only lying to yourself. the rest see right through it

>>102534616
So what? you watch hours and hours of women you hate just so they might pick you out of the thousands of others? sounds retarded

>>102534616
Women driver car crash compilations are pretty funny and entertaining.

>>102534914
you don't do anything as such
you pick up a vtuber that at least marginally understands kayfabe and their audience, and doesn't drop a "getting married" bomb at you, ever
the "entertainment" should be the pretend anime girl playing video games, singing, and goofing about, not a roastie yapping about her real life

>>102534235
kek

>>102534616
This.

>>102534616
why live your men aren't funny you have no value other then as genetic material .. kys now faggot

>>102535223
oh no, my fragile ego shattered by a post on xitter

I'm blacklisting every chuuba that is responding to that tweet

>>102534151 (OP)
I'm gonna Miss the yuri shipping with Doki when she marries, but if she's happy I am.

>>102534463
congrats nani

>>102534616
I like listening to soft voices while playing video games

>>102534616
Because they are trannies

>>102534616
Houshou Marine is funnier than 99.999% of men.

>>102534616
I agree with you
except for gigi, she is actually funny and I would still watch her if she was a man. being a yaoi writer would be kind of weird for a guy but I'm open minded

>>102534616
If you're watching streams for coomer shit, it seems like a strange choice to go with the literal most un-touchable, half-fictional characters that only exist in pixels and your minds eye.
Or maybe it isn't that strange for you, if genuine human connection is something you can't achieve.

>>102534241
Mint, the woman who actually interacts with idols and knows how many of them have boyfriends and how it's inevitable for them to get hitched, was apparently supposed to champion cgdct and immediately distance herself from her friend for some reason.

>>102534616
They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>102537431
Me too, cleaning the house is less of a chore when listening to cute girls doing stupid shit, even when not paying attention the sound is nice and better than a greasy old man doing noices.

>>102534151 (OP)
Her sister had twins too. Mint is surrounded by women settling down. I hope she finds a way to do so too.

>>102534270
Who don't watch vtubers. Presumably.

>>102534241
by making her marriage public nimi has kind of forced all vtubers adjacent to her into a corner: either make a friendly statement and antagonize their own fans, or say nothing and antagonize their fellow vtubers and look like a fake friend. this is why there are thread in the catalog complaining about biboo twitting about playing tamagochi: the inferred statement in this context is that she values her fans and the koseki bijou character above other vtubers

>>102538249
>either make a friendly statement and antagonize their own fans,
How would a friendly statement about another vtuber antagonize your own fans?

>>102538249
If you think the Sloppies' fans are going to have a problem with this, you fundamentally do not understand this sector of the indie sphere. The most radically accepting of relationships would likely be the dragoons who often think Doki would be better off with a male wife to keep her home in order, but the rest aren't far behind.

>>102534151 (OP)
I understand why her name is Nightmare now.

>>102538249
>either make a friendly statement and antagonize their own fans, or say nothing and antagonize their fellow vtubers and look like a fake friend.
Why can't they just DM their congrats message?

>>102534390
Saying this on a thread about Mint, the most parasocial large indie, is funny.

>>102538249
>either make a friendly statement and antagonize their own fans
What happens to Nimi doesn't concern a wisp. We are riding with Mint until 'something' happens.

>>102538488
because as much as they bitch about fantasy vs reality, they know that their interpersonal relations are part of the product

>>102538249
It's such a great move honestly. She didn't force adjacent vtubers to make a statement, she gave them the opportunity to associate themselves with the idea of being in a romantic relationship while still vtubing. A lot of smaller vtubers, new ones in particular, feel a pressure to succumb to GFE or at least keep details about their love live private in order to protect shizos watching the. What Nimi has done is allow herself to be a champion for vtuber emancipation. It hits so hard not because she's big, but because she's big AND a youtube only vtuber. Twitch has plenty of big vtubers that are in relationships, but youtube was still struggling under unspoken JP corpo rules.

>>102538867
I'm not being snide, this is a genuine question, but realistically wisp, how likely do you think "something" will happen?

>Nimi's marriage reveal was actually this big ploy to get other vtubers down with revealing their boyfriends and being supportive of non-gfe/cgdgt vtubers and to shine a light on the ones that don't respond and make them look bad
>Or she just wanted to reveal her marriage
You people are fucking psychotic

>>102539688
They're having a melty over a woman having a loving relationship.
Not just because it shatters their delusions but yes, because it could become systematic. That's how committed they are to their insanity, they're worried their fellow crazies will also wake up to reality. It's something else isn't it?

>>102539688
when I started watching vtubers I would had agreed with you
but there is a lot of money involved and all these women 1. make a character for a living and 2. have media training. I know it sounds crazy but consider the topic two weeks ago was that a big vtuber was paying an artist to not do commissions for another vtuber of the same company. another example now in retrospective is the different reaction the other holo vtubers had to fauna graduating vs mumei graduating. this is a crazy industry for straight up bad people (like myself)

>>102539688
It's not a ploy, but the effects are the same. The no male interaction rule has been shattered. The only reason it could stay alive was because nobody dared to openly talk about it. Unspoken rules wither away when exposed to sunlight, and this is a big one.

>>102540074
It wasn't ever a proper "rule", it just so happens that most of the people into vtubers crave BFE/GFE content because they are lonely people. You can still be in a relationship and do online content, nothing is stopping you, but its best to make your position known extremely early on so that you aren't leading people on financially, which a lot of ASMR-related chuubas absolutely do.

>>102539920
Here's the thing tho. Unicorns need their delusion to be universal. Their egos are so fragile, and they're so insecure about themselves, that even seeing a vtuber completely unrelated to their oshi interact with a male gets their shizo wheels spinning. They are truly psychotic in the sense that they've constructed this elaborate web of lies around themselves in order to be happy, and even the smallest disruption is enough to make that house of cards fall.
It really just takes one big name to rattle that jenga tower for a day and tomorrow you'll end up with a pile of blocks on the floor.

Ozzy was an OG sapling and this pushed him over the edge, holy FUCK

>>102540303
>the people into vtubers crave BFE/GFE content because they are lonely people.
Biggest lie of the century.
Shizos are into XFE. Lonely people watch anything featuring human interaction without getting romantically attached.

>>102534616
Real talk.

>>102540398
There's tons of big chuubas that lean into XFE content desu, because they know it makes them easy money and gets them tons of views. And lets be frank, its not like most vtubers are good enough entertainers to make it on their own without pandering every now and then.
But even then there's people that just do male interactions like Mori who don't care about filtering out the more extremely sensitive parts of their audience. Someone like Nimi could have easily done something like this much earlier and would have been fine.

>>102539688
Nimi did the second one, "people" are gonna do the first one

>>102540796
Leaning into GFE is such a wishy washy term that it can mean anything, form full on calling you boyfriend and dedicating entire streams to having dates with ( you ), to a girl not explicitly denouncing it and just being friendly with her audience in the most generic way.
The overwhelming majority of big vtubers who lean into GFE barely do it, for one reason or another. Plus, we're talking about the West here. Japanese vtubing is much more shizo driven, I agree with that.

>>102540314
Monoliths are meant to fall to mark the beginning of new eras, so be it.

I mean really though, imagine a woman stating she is getting married changing an industry. The funny and paradoxical thing about this is the stronger the unicorn melty reaction the more likely this would in fact change the industry. Their own fear of the web falling apart is what causes it to happen. Pure pottery.

>>102541231
Doki shattered the PL secrecy stigma with her drama.
All these rules that were set in place by Japanese idol culture have been adopted by vtubing wholesale because of the early Japanese influence and cultural power hololive had. As that power is slowly fading, people are finally starting to reexamine long held beliefs, the reason or validity of which were never questions because "it's how it was done".

Nimi is a watershed moment for the idea that vtubers are meant to uphold the unicorn delusion, there's no doubt about that.

So vtubing has just devolved back into regular flesh stream shit huh, it’s no longer an escape watching a girl roleplaying an anime character but now it’s just them with an avatar lol. Fucking nuke the industry already

>>102534151 (OP)
unsubscribed even though I never subscribed

>>102541516
subscribed just to unsubscribe to send a message

>>102541463
Coco shattered PL stigma, but newfags weren't around for that

>>102538986
I don't see it happening anytime soon. Either he Japanophile life is a bit too much for men she's in contact with due to her back and forth from USA and Japan, or she simply won't disclose it until she's thinking about exiting vtubing.

I'm sure she's acutely aware how being in a relationship will affect her viewership as a vtuber, but also her friends are a bunch of women and they like to sabotage one another like convincing their friends to divorce and now their quality of life drops drastically. What ever the future brings it brings, I'll just enjoy the present.

>>102538986
Not at all. She's too fucked up in the head for anything serious and she herself is far too parasocial with Wisps. She knows that she couldn't pull something like this and, again, her commenting on a friend's marriage is irrelevant, the big news for Wisps today is Beri and Pia.

>>102534616
trvke, the number of genuinely entertaining/funny women can probably be counted on like 2 hands

>>102538867
Do you really think someone who used to post nude pics on 4chan isn't ran through?

>>102541463
Good. Barring the talents from mentioning their previous corpo personas and from contacting the current talents publicly should be next.

>>102534235
haha what a sane image to make!

>>102534616
TRVKE

>>102538984
hell theres even female cosplayers on twitter coming out on twitter as married because of n*mi

>>102541499
You needed to escape? Faggot

>>102534783
>saying this on the vtuber 4chan board
You couldn't be further from that lifestyle if you tried

>>102541463
>Nimi is a watershed moment for the idea that vtubers are meant to uphold the unicorn delusion, there's no doubt about that.
The thing about this is that it isn't a vtuber thing, it's a streamer thing. People that watch a streamer often don't care about that streamers relationship. The best kind of streamer has an unknown relationship status because their relationship or lack thereof doesn't matter at all to the stream. Second best being confirmed as single.

This applies both to men and women, but more so to women. I don't care about your wife, or your kids. Just play the game and dance, monkey.

>>102542071
I know, right? Imagine being so pathethic that you send money to some roastie online.

None of this matters. Those who are successful will still be the ones keeping personal life and their job separate. Nimi will learn this as well in the long term after dropping into 2view status.

>>102542069
Yep. It's Doki all over again, but with boyfriend/husband reveals. Vtubing's actually healing for once.

>>102541499
>Fucking nuke the industry already
What do you think is happening? Now we just need saba to destroy another pillar and the whole JP influence will be eradicated from the western markets. Of course, JP talents may be tempted to participate in these practices seeing how free their EN counter-parts are, raising families in front of a screen instead of living in fear of a perfect blue moment over a single errant discord mod or editor.

I never considered these ramifications until witnessing the insanity of you degenerate bastards first-hand here. I never once indulged the oshi-mentality but if these subhuman practices die out I might just have to stan this wonderful lady and her family.

>>102542327
No one is or was making you

>>102542345
She's thinking it would hurt less if she could get ahead of the inevitable Rushia-tier yab and just rip the bandaid herself. Unfortunately for her though she still fucked up by grifting off the ex-holo merch as soon as she possibly could.

>>102542069
>cosplayers on twitter coming out on twitter
im retarded and didnt proofread forgive me

>>102541683
Vtubing wasn't big enough for her to matter at that point anon. It was still in its cozy little "It's a japanese hobby lemao xD" phase, completely isolated from normalfags in the West. Doki's drama, and her willingness to collab regularly outside of vtubers is what broke the secrecy.

>>102542474
>he's thinking it would hurt less if she could get ahead of the inevitable Rushia-tier yab and just rip the bandaid herself
There are countless examples, specially in JP, who has successfully kept their shit private and separate to this very day. If she really thought that, she is beyond retarded.

>>102542588
Part of me understands because if I were in that position I would be stressed out having to hide such a secret to protect my job and "public image".
Nimi wants an audience of normal people but normal people aren't the ones who whale on shitty merch, can't have it both ways

>>102542322
The issue comes when a portion, sizable or not, pays your bills and demands you be single for them. It hits female streamers a lot harder overall because half of the time people are watching them as girlfriend simulators so trying to push that away means pushing away a lot of money. For every Pomemane where id doesn't matter, there 10000 barely not camgirls who scrape at a handful of simps to pay for their life.

Where is this influx of normie shit coming from? Did everyone forget why vtubing got popular in the first place? Why do you think the most successful female live streamers are all vtubers? Why would acting like a regular twitch/youtube whore be a good thing? You realize that core audience (that actually spend money) are lonely man don't you? Not twitter tourists.

>>102542898
>Nimi wants an audience of normal people
Good luck with that i guess. She can yap away to 800 people every 2-3 months after the baby is born.

>>102542898
>Nimi wants an audience of normal people but normal people aren't the ones who whale on shitty merch, can't have it both ways
True and real.
If you pretend, you can make losers fall in love with you, which brings load of money.
If you don't pretend, don't do idolshit and such, then you don't get the female cheats. You can still make it as a streamer, but now on equal terms with everyone else, on pure entertainment value. Good luck.

>>102534151 (OP)
This bitch also has a boyfriend, I don't trust the average American woman, they all lust for men after 20, all the American bitches are not going to keep their virginity.

>>102534616
> women aren't funny
Your misogyny is preventing you from experiencing peak

I feel no pity for you

>>102543115
that boyfriend? solid snake

>>102542898
I feel like it was done in a totally not malicious way. I don't think she'll talk much about it on stream as she typically stays right in line with just talking about the game she's playing for the most part, but she felt bad taking that next official step in her life and felt like she was keeping it a secret to 'trick' people. Notice even after the 'We are not friends' stuff, she was still one of the highest viewed and best merch selling talents in EN, even through all the fags screaming about it.

>>102543161
mint get off 4chan

>>102538249
Imagine how large Biboo's bf is

>>102540074
bro missed combined veibae & nyanners public cuck arc kek

>>102534616
A few of them are genuinely funny by themselves, but a lot of the humor arises from context and situations.

>>102537793
Idols get married after they retire, they don't get married and then stay idols

>>102543237
im about 5 inches

>>102543305
Mint isn't an idol anymore. She's shedding the last of her idol ccv. We'll see how it works out for her.

>>102541499
That happened almost immediately when EN vtubing blew up, it's just taken a bit of time to really reach its maximum swell. It started off somewhat niche and then got popular, so naturally like with everything else a lot of women will attach themselves to it solely for that reason and will entirely disregard and previous expected norms because they never cared to begin with.

>>102541499
>Nimi the grifter is the entire industry now

cool story sister

>>102543388
None of this girls are idols, there are zero western idols.

>>102543398
>because they never cared to begin with.
Why would they? Money is flowing either way.

>>102543466
Can't say you're wrong

>>102542322
The biggest streamers and youtubers are already taken

>>102543187
>she typically stays right in line with just talking about the game she's playing for the most part
No she doesn't lol. Watch streams first. She sits at title screen of any game and yaps for 45 minutes about her day or some other obscure shit. She will %999 gonna talk about his now new family life non-stop.

>>102543187
Now THIS is some parasocial shit. This is worse than gachis seething. Unironically

>>102543461
Taylor Swift

>>102543729
thats a pop idol, in the western sense. Not an アイドル.

>>102534783
you first, fellow /vt/ poster

>>102534270
They have camaraderie because they're all hiding the bfs from their fans.

>>102534616
>Women are stupid, dumb, lame, unfunny worthless poopie-head humans who have no value, but also I NEED them to pretend to be anime-girls who love me or else I'll seethe in despair and kill myself!

LMAO it's hilarious seeing what the mentally-ill loser failed dudes on 4chan say about females all the time. The way they behave towards women really shows it's just sour-grapes on their part.

>>102545596
>but also I NEED them to pretend to be anime-girls who love me
I know this is bait but nobody said this
women just aren't funny.

>>102543237
I don't ask, she doesn't tell
99.9% of women fail to replicate this amazing trick

>>102545596
according to twitter one napling already unalived himself over the announcement
do you think this is funny?

>>102546652
Yeah

>>102546652
damn unicorns are weak lmao

>>102538986
I think she's holding out for Big Boss, so we're good I think.

>>102546652
>do you think this is funny?
Very

>>102534151 (OP)
That would be too funny.

God... just think about how often these girls turn off stream and immediately get railed

>>102546652
Incredibly

>>102534235
Kek fpbp

>>102546540
Which is why everyone should have a 2nd line of defense in realizing that every single vtuber has a bf/husband.

>>102547195
That would cut their income though. Delusional fans in love pay way better.

>>102538422
Trash clan have heard enough over the years, I can't possibly see them being upset

>>102534616
I feel bad for the girls, imagine reading this kind of thing. Imagine knowing that a portion of your fanbase thinks you're not funny or entertaining in any way, and just watches you as a sexual fantasy. No wonder Nimi revealed her marriage, she's better off without people like you. All vtubers are. And i'm especially grateful for the unicorn tears she caused.

>>102546652
>delusional stan killing himself over his object of obsession announcing they have a life that does not include him
Pathetic and funny

>>102547195
maybe if it was a job, but I watch vtubers in my spare time, I can just watch the .1% that doesn't suck. youtube has a search bar you can use to find different content

>>102547292
Not necessarily. Delusions are like Alchohol. Too much will kill you, like >>102546652, but it doesn't mean you can't have fun with it (and end up wanting to pay for more later). Just do it in moderation.

>>102547389
>oh no woe is me, my fans are fake and don't appreciate my performances
>I will have to dry my tears on these fat stacks of cash I'm making from their insincere support and in the arms of my loving boyfriend
Poor babies

>>102547389
I'm sure nimi thought she was the new nick mullen when she made... "[ASMR] Monster Girl Forces You To Fix Your Terrible Sleep Schedule [Ear Cuppies]"
I couldn't believe the script for " 1 Hour of Relaxing Cat Girl ASMR [Ear Cleaning, Ear Massage, Head Scratchies, Brushies, & More!]" wasn't written by thomas pynchon himself

>>102543388
>She's shedding the last of her idol ccv.
What "idol ccv"? You mean from her time in Niji? Her viewership has doubled since leaving.

I'm just sad my lonely naive ass got memed into thinking someone was relatable for the umpteenth time

Why don't retards understand that being a "stan" is a bad thing. That's what the song was about.

>>102534151 (OP)
I have her nude lel

I'm happy for her, I just feel a twinge of loneliness knowing that i'll probably die alone...

>>102547828
Yeah, I'm fucking retarded and misunderstood the post chain completely. I was talking about Fauna. Yeah, I don't understand how that happened either

>>102547872
Femcels aren't real. The female equivalent of an incel is a roastie (eg. Mari).

>>102547877
>FBI would like to know your location

>>102534616
Based

>>102548309
Genuinely think a lot of the CP and gore evaluators at the FBI must enjoy that shit. Anyone who doesn't would just get mind broken over time.

>>102538249
She wanted to make a public announcement as a holo but management told her absolutely not.

>>102547872
brother read this thread, there are relatable people
but they have balls

>>102540384
He was only 76? He looked a hundred and two.

>>102541463
Hiding your relationship status has been a thing among fleshstreamers for years, what are you talking about? Twitch thots only ever make it public if they already made enough millions to tank losing a few more each month.

It’s a woman thing, not an idol thing.

>>102534616
men are gay

>>102538488
Women.

>>102538488
>and antagonize their own fans
They don't need the fans that are antagonised by being cucked. The dream is fully functioning cuck economy, where they don't have to pretend even a little bit. Soon.

>>102538488
Then twitter wouldn't exist.

>>102538249
Are you actually insane? She's not the president of vtubers. Nobody has to acknowledge it but she also has friends.

>>102538984
I love that apparently Nyanners and Veibae just don't count. Because they failed.

>>102543161
If Solid Snake was suddenly real, I would do everything in my power to make sure he had a good end.

>>102534616
lots of seething holes in these replies

>>102534783
Have you done any of those things?

>>102537713
Hags don’t count

>>102534270
men don't care about this cringe relationship stuff.

>>102534783
Porn is awesome.
I work 45 hours a week and do all my yardwork.
It's impossible to get a girlfriend.

>>102534151 (OP)
Wanting women to stay single forever to please a mass of losers that have nothing better to do than to watch women pretend to be anime waifus is fucking delusional and fills me with joy to see parasocial freak's fantasies get torn to shreads. It's what they deserve, it's what they need to be brought back to reality and stop escaping the realities of their lives like fucking losers.

>>102551613
Wanting money from aforementioned losers is also delusional.

>>102543305
Good thing Pomu and Fauna graduated then

>>102546652
Yes
TOTAL UNICORN DEATH
also
>unalived
You should do the same

>>102551613
Why are you on 4chan, normalfag?

>>102551878
Mint and Nimi are both idols in their branding
Nimi's branding is "gaming idol tapir"
If you don't want to follow idol rules don't fucking brand yourself like it

>>102534151 (OP)
God I hate this bitch

>>102534616
/vt/ BTFO yet again

>>102553398
Mint has repeatedly said she is not an idol, just an idol fan.

>>102548508
That'll be the ungodly amount of drugs and alcohol

Mint is married to a fat flip. I thought everyone knew this?

>>102546652
Source? I wanna see the corpse to laugh.

>>102534783
In this economy? Fucking boomer.

>>102554427
Nah, she's got enough IRL stalkers for us to know she's not married

>>102554427
No, that's your mom. Mint is married to me, I'm fit and white.

>>102534235
fpbp

>>102546652
God no, that's totally sad as fuck. Now send me a link so I can go wish them prayers and condolences.

>>102534616
If I wanted to masturbate, I would read a doujin instead
I laugh when watching vtubers, so they are funny.

>>102539920
>>102540314
>>102541231
>>102541463
faggot fucking feminist normalfags get the fuck out of my 4chan this website is for incels and social outcasts only

>>102534390
lets not act like vtuber watchers are discerning people when it comes to the quality of their entertainment

>>102546652
>according to twitter
Post it

>>102534616
Yeah I've been binging Northernlion recently. I honestly could see myself going back to watching pre-vtuber content in the next 2-3 years, just go full circle and go back a decade.

Everyday i am glad that i am not as fucking retarded as some of you guys

>>102548218
>Femcels aren't real
They are. They're called female NEETs or female Hikkimoris.

>>102534783
Been there, done that. Not gonna lose my money and time for a woman that comes pre-fucked. If you try and go too young, you start dealing with high levels of menhera. It's overall a bleak landscape out there.

>>102553623
seethe sister
>>102554427
still no proof btw