Thread 102538775

>Kson is having a meltdown after her "Vtuber Paradise" backfired horribly to her face
KEK.
How bad did she KWAB herself?

>>102538775 (OP)
KEK

>>102538775 (OP)
How come every single Vtuber company is shitty and corrupt? You'd think just by chance at least some of them would be decent

>>102538775 (OP)
This is what a seething holodrone looks like, who can't accept that Yagoo's walled garden is in fact not heaven.

All I remember of early Vshojo was members preaching corpo hate.

I mean they were right, but the fact it's literally just a corp like all the others is fucking hilarious.

>>102538775 (OP)
When will women learn? The only safe route is the nimi route.

>>102538775 (OP)
This is why gloating about the corpo you work for is always a bad idea. I get you like your job, but she was too in your face with bragging about muh talent freedom and all that crap.

>>102538775 (OP)
talent freedom to live under a bridge

>>102539616
>How come every single Vtuber company is shitty and corrupt?
Vtubing corpos are like only 1-3 steps away from being gigolos/sex traffickers.
It attracts the same types of scummy, long nosed people into the investors.

Say my name /vt/

>>102540095
Winnie the Pooh.

Yup, I'm kekking hard right now chat, lmoa

>>102540095
Xi CHADping-sama....

these threads are made by chinese nijisisters who are still mad about the 2% shit

>>102540095
>Do nothing
>Enemies defeat themselves
Xi-Sama, have mercy...

>>102539640
Every one of these "walled gardens" is actually a poisoned well. Sometimes also a bucket mousetrap.

>>102539640
it's a fucking walled garden ofc it's never a heaven(unless you idol minded)
also why the fuck holo out of nowhere while certain 0.6% claiming their corpo is the best corpo everywhere

>>102538775 (OP)
wkwkwkwk XD

kson...its time

>>102539616
>How come every single Vtuber company is shitty and corrupt? You'd think just by chance at least some of them would be decent
Phase Connect is True and Honest

>>102539640
Reminder that she still considers Yagoo a friend and her complaints toward hololive were much lighter than this. She got caught in a seethe loop so bad she willingly put herself in with a worse company and now she's reaping what she's sowed.

>>102539616
There is no such thing as a good corporation

>>102539616
the profitable ones are evil by taking full control.

the unprofitable ones (vshojo) are still demonized by trying to take any control at all and still can't pay

if you want to be a decent vtuber company where does your money come from? you can advertise 2views until they no longer need you and there goes your profit


in the modern economy there's just less and less room for middle men unless you're unavoidable like the streaming platforms themselves (who everyone still try to cut out using adblockers)

>>102541162
I wouldnt touch anything connected to griftkin grifta with a 50 foot pole

Now that they are dead, can we have her back?

>>102542352
Justice for Pikamee

>>102538775 (OP)
I’m not awake so early. Can someone give me the rundown on how her stream went? I heard she actually called the boss live on stream.

>>102540095
>do nothing
>win
I kneel...

>>102539616
something something capitalism

>>102542352
The vshitshow contract lets them keep the model and Identity so Henya isn't likely to go anywhere. She'll be full indie though, so it's up to VOMS if Henya can collab with their talent.

>>102538775 (OP)
>isolated by jp vtubers
>get zero money from her beloved company
Kek deserve

>>102539616
Hololive actually paid her. She got greedy and paid the price.

>>102538775 (OP)
Kekson...

>>102538775 (OP)
No cons!

>>102538775 (OP)
I’m not going to be hard on her. It’s better to be wrong than to be complicit. She was blindsided by the company, but she’s smart enough to admit it and not keep it going.

i wonder if mel was in on it considering how close she was with gunrun

>>102538775 (OP)
jav route incoming

>>102538775 (OP)
>A group of people who enjoy stabbing other companies is now being stabbed by their own
Hahahahahaha

>>102539616
it's a business that thrives on the credit cards of lonely, single men that society by large don't really care about. Black companies and corruption basically comes with the territory of trickery.

It just so happens that a group founded by grifters turns out to be grifting each other. It's not really shocking to be honest.

A real shame our girl pikanya got roped into joining this shitshow desu. She was too good for them from the start

>>102539616
best we can do is gaslight you and fireyou if you "slander" us

>>102538775 (OP)
No need to disparage her, she didn't do anything wrong, she's simply too naive for her own good.
I wish her the best.

I will now accept apology sex from her

>"vshojo is better because it doesn't control its talents"
>the outcome of uncontrolled "talents"
kek

So she stayed quiet hoping they'd pay her because people on the internet told her about gunrun and vshitshow and she doesn't want them to laugh about how right they were
She's always been kind of pathetic

>>102540095
Ching Chong dono... I kneel...

>>102538775 (OP)
KWAB-levels? Off the charts

>>102543620
I wish desu.
Would fap to her paizuri videos.

>>102538775 (OP)
>>102539616
The Chinese are a patient people, they play the long game. The enchinafication of all companies worldwide will lead to these kinds of things.

The Tao of Pooh prevails over all.

>>102541436
This.
It's always been weird that V tubing in particular always attracted this weird console faggotry around The owners of different corporations. As if they're not all waiting to screw somebody out of money, contracts, etc.

>>102538775 (OP)
She dickrided so ridiculously hard for Vshojo that I can't possibly feel any less sympathy for her, here.

>>102544504
is that why they literally drowned all their female babies and ended up with a completely lopsided gender society where men are going prison gay? They're playing some... "long game" we cannot fathom?

>>102544504
imagine living in a world where jew parasite all their host until dead and the only winning move is to no play and wait

>Drags the Japanese CEO on-stream and gives him a dressing down in front of everyone AFTER having already quit
Kson is the girlbossiest girlboss to ever girlboss. I'm actually kinda impressed (and turned on)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9plb8diJy0c

>>102543766
This
Vtubing is basically a virtual escort service

>>102538775 (OP)
Does this sound less despair-filled in Japanese?

>>102538775 (OP)
This can't be real. It reads like some kind of joke post.

>>102541162
Oh you know they're pos opportunists. Just look how they got popular and the controversies they generated. Something will leak eventually like every other corpo has. Same for hololive too.

>>102541436
You going to summon the 0.6% kek.

>>102539874
I wish I could be as naive as you and think marriage is a safe route for anyone involved..

>>102539616
Women are just entitled whores, so if a corpo doesn't bend the knee for everything they want, they're le black company

>>102546191
everyone in vshojo management is going into federal prison because childish adults roleplayed being a real company

>>102538775 (OP)
>Haachama wins by doing nothing

Damn, feels like only yesterday /vt/ wouldn’t shut the fuck up about the Reddit dragon being kino and Taiwan.

>>102539616
Wait till you learn about every company in the world. I've always said each company is one week away from shuttering.

>>102538775 (OP)
Literally KWAB
Sasuga kekson

>>102538775 (OP)
After being in the swamp of Pirate Software slob it's nice to see someone admit they were wrong.

>>102538775 (OP)
Karma bitch remember YOU left KEKSON
KEK

>>102548300
She knows she's getting rightfully mocked. However that will not stop her crying about it.

>>102538775 (OP)
I will never forgive vshojofags for the endless gloating and shitflinging after kson first joined. >muh holokiller
>muh talent freedom
Karma is a fucking bitch.

>>102546851
Coco rebelled against the norms by acting crass in a place that's supposed to be seiso
Kson enforces conformity by acting crass in a place that's supposed to be crass

Someone who enters a place that's supposed to be crass and instead remains 100% seiso at all times would likewise develop a following for it

>>102548975
>Someone who enters a place that's supposed to be crass and instead remains 100% seiso at all times would likewise develop a following for it
...Henya?

>>102548975
>threadreader has never watched a single hololive or vshojo stream
cool

>>102539616
>How come every single company is shitty and corrupt?
fixed that for ya

"talent freedom" am i right

>>102545910
7 years and still no major controversies behind the scene. Hololive stay winning.

>>102539616
*laughs in phase*

>>102549844
Ditching a talent soon as it came out that she was groomed as a minor?

>>102538775 (OP)
FEELING ASHAMED FOR ALL THE POSITIVE STUFF I'VE SAID ABOUT THE VTUBER TURN OUT TO BE A FUCKING LIE YES GO AHEAD AND LAUGH AT ME WHY WHY AM I SO STUPID WHY DO I NOT LEARN WHY DO I ALWAYS TRY TO SEE THE GOOD SIDE OF PEOPLE JUST TO LEARN THEY DON'T FUCKING CARE OFCOURSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY IM NOTHING FOR THE VTUBERS WITHOUT THE MONEY
But you know what, I'm still lucky because I go you, my anime!! As long as I'm watching anime I'm thrivin!!

>>102544374
Still Tony, I'm afraid

>>102540334
>>102542478

qrd?

>>102552186
Vshojo ran off with talents' money

>>102540095
First say one thing that came out of your country that isn't soulless.

>>102552352
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Fireworks

>>102552464
RotTK is overrated, at least Journey to the West and Fengshen have funny lore behind it

>>102538775 (OP)
Brave of her to own up to it and admit her mistakes. Good for her.

>>102552694
RotK provides bangers like Cao Cao desperately showering Guan Yu with gifts only to have the latter graduate and rejoin his old corpo anyway
Then there's the fucking barbarian king in fantasy jungle land arc

>>102539616
its hard to break even on staffing or projects when the talents have expectation of keeping literally everything & think they're doing all the work.
also the revenue is volatile, popularity changes month to month in drastic ways.

>>102539616
>company exists solely to make money off of other people's work
What kind of person do you believe this will attract? The honest, hard working kind? Or the opposite of that?

>>102552334
The eternal Asian greed and their stupidity.

Kson? KWAB and FINISHED

>>102540278
better than having 0%.

>>102538775 (OP)
>1 xeet on x the everything app blaze your glory
>meltdown

>>102539616
>why are companies that get into the business of exploiting mentally ill and/or lonely men so scummy?
Hmm, it's a fucking mystery, ain't it?

>shat on niji's "le 2% merch" and how great vshojo was
>whole company collapses overnight
kekw

>>102546191
So a male-only company would work fine?

>>102553712
Well, that would fail because no one watches male chuubas. Same result, diffrent reasons.

>>102553593
Every member there still made more money than any of Niji's recent hires

>>102539616
try the whole entertainment industry lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMTsM7Q5PtI
I didn't know Kson was a millionaire, damn

>>102538775 (OP)
She should have made her own corpo rather than join Vshitshow. And she shouldn't have tricked Pikamee into joining either.

>>102538775 (OP)
Is this what they call karma?

>>102554095
When did Pikamee join vshojo? kson stopped getting paid since september 2024, before that she wouldn't have known anything.

>>102541162
because Phase Connect is not a vtuber company its a coffee company

>>102554051
She did appear in Yazuka.

>>102554167
All the money went to henya

>>102554167
After the second month she really should have brought it up among talents and management

>>102538775 (OP)
She is the reason why EN corpos are so shit

Imagine for a moment: Coco returning to Hololive as an affiliate. Who says no? She could stream once, twice, maybe three times a year with 100K CCV every time, and Cover gets to sell her IP again in their trading cards & other merch. This is a win win

>>102540095
/vt/ and /jp/ should fill a formal apology

>>102554332
Probably best outcome and thus won't happen

>"50% profit-shared" company collapsing in less than 12 hours
>talent freedom company collapsing in less than 12 hours
>best Western company collapsing in less than 12 hours

>>102538775 (OP)
The fact that she gets so much money from memberships and superchats that not getting paid for merch sales for an entire year didn’t seem like a problem big enough to complain about it is hilarious to me.

>>102554580
>best Western company collapsing in less than 12 hours
Phase is still strong?

>>102539616
>Nobody says that hololive proves otherwise.
this board is dead

>>102554869
Trolling is against the rules anon

>>102541436
false

>>102539616
I'm not defending vshojo but the business model simply didn't make sense. You can't conjure up money from nowhere to pay people. I don't believe there was any actual embezzlement happening.

>>102548975
this
>>102549516
cope

>>102554921
>muh rules
Thanks for proving me right, newfag.

>>102541162
This is obvious bait, but honestly I don't get all the hate towards Phase. Most of their vtubers are interesting and fun to watch. Panko, Shiina, Tenma are really fun to watch, Clara is a fantastic singer, Remilia is cute.
I get that Pippa is very divisive, but it's not like Phase is just Pippa.

>>102538775 (OP)
ahahhahahahahaha

>>102539616
>How come every single Vtuber company is shitty and corrupt?
Run by Asians. Not saying it in a bigoted way. This is simply the Asian way of doing business.

>>102539616
because they're either small companies that don't have experience managing talent, which leads to mismanagement (which leads to corruption), or they're big companies, which are corrupt by their nature. Like I imagine Vshojo was initially legit, but people probably got put in roles they didn't have the expertise for, which caused problems that snowballed into them needing to do crap like this.

>>102554239
Kson and Henya will be part of the next wave of Phase Invaders

>>102549281
>bounce on it, dayo

>>102555361
people hate their fans, nobody cares or sees those women.

>>102554332
Cover is doing businesses with china. So no.

>People meme about Henya joining Phase
>It's about to become real
Meme magik still going strong

>>102539616
The business plan of Vshoujo is profit repellent, how can you make money if you own nothing from the talents?

>>102556017
Plot twist: it's Niji and they break her for real

>>102539616
VAllure is unironically the most wholesome corpo, oh the irony

>>102556140
Yeah sure, let's see how long that lasts

>>102538775 (OP)
YOU left

>>102556202
Been over a year, so far so good. Full transparency, Stronny talks actual numbers and dollars on stream all the time

>>102556137
come on, she's not that stupid

>>102553803
>than any of Niji's recent hires
You mean by the beat right? You can't be serious.
>Every member there still made more money
None of it went to them apparently.

>>102539616
>You'd think just by chance at least some of them would be decent
Yeah but most of those ran out of money

>>102549281
>8 yr olds are the ideal age dayo

>>102556682
At this point i believe all of those girls are so stupid that anon couldn't make a think they aren't stupid enough to do. Each time i think they can't get any dumber shit like this happens.

>>102539616
evil is short term pleasure at the expense of long term continuation. by lacking any transcendental belief in life beyond the now, the ability to comprehend good (that which keeps society stable and alive) is lost.
it's not solely vtubing companies, it's most of the world, everything set up by the boomers and the later generations that operate on their framework.

>>102556682
She fucking joined Vshojo

>>102538775 (OP)
KWABOTY

>>102555361
Because for years Phase Really was just the Pippa corpo, and Pippa is a garbage dramafag.
Alot of their new hires are great though and they've started moving away from pink rabbit being the center of everything.

>>102562873
>Pippa is a garbage dramafag.
that and she started shit with Ralph the gunt who then tried to ruin her.

>>102538775 (OP)
>I am lucky I still have you (my wallet)
People still support this golddigger, she treats her fans like an object (atm) to withdraw money and she's not even hiding it.

>>102563008
>she treats her fans like an object (atm) to withdraw money and she's not even hiding it.
if she ran a company, it probably would be extremely anti-consumer.

>>102538775 (OP)
Ukraine never got their money....

>>102540095
>does nothing
Oh you copied soviet-kun and usa-kun's ideas and behaviors, now latam-kun is full of shit rn cuz you interfering on there for the past 50years ya?

>>102563707
>Gunrun is an FSB agent
based

>>102552464
That didnt come out of his country though. Nice try.

>>102563934
>interfering
"Lobbying" might've the more appropriate term you're looking for, anon. I'd agree.

>>102538775 (OP)
Uh, yeah, Phase LITERALLY cannot stop winning.

>>102563707
>100k for New Israel
lmao

>>102538775 (OP)
Apparently the jp branch was doing fine but got sucked in by the USA branch. Kson is an hero and a legend.

>>102549844
Except everything around Mel