Thread 102554368

Apologize to Vei, she's been vindicated. Vshojo was stiffing them on payments as early as 2021

>>102554368 (OP)
but muh hogwarts

>>102554368 (OP)
Nyanners is saying the same thing on stream right now. She also NEVER got the missing money.

vshojo fucking sucks as a company. the model isn't even viable or efficient. it was inevitable it would lead to issues like this. how and why did it take this long for people to start seeing the cracks? no one cared about all the stuff vei implied about them because she has a boyfriend? was everyone too occupied with their niji hate boner? or was the talent freedom mask too strong?

>>102554368 (OP)
I have nothing to apologize for because I never trust retarded speculation unless there's proof

>>102554368 (OP)
ehh starting to sound like a reach now

>>102554368 (OP)
Whores be coming out of the woodwork to grift for pity points, big surprise

>>102554368 (OP)
>Vshojo was stiffing them on payments as early as 2021
>Vshojo has been doing dirt since 2021, FOUR fucking years ago
>Vei said absolutely NOTHING about this when it was actually relevant to her
>Suddenly pops back up from irrelevance, multiple years AFTER she left Vshojo to victory lap someone else doing what she SHOULD of have done in 2021
???
Why do people do this?

>>102554368 (OP)
Lasagna.

>>102554368 (OP)
I can dislike both of them.

>>102556320
They build their entire retarded business strategy on COVID numbers that were already clearly out of date by the time they officially opened the org.
It's impossible to pay enough staff to handle finances, sponsor contracts, merch deals and general management duties for all talents with just a cut from merch sales.
This could have worked if they had retained COVID numbers and the people watching bought merch at normal rates, but both of these were pure fantasy.

Vshojo also forced vei and silver to leave at the same time to push the mean girl narrative and made Nyan leave solo to try and guilt her into potentially not leaving

>>102554518
Oh so nyanners, the woman who has never been a lying whore said so, then it must be true.

>>102556320
Nyanners and Vei are both struggling numberswise due to the Boyfriending and need every boost they can get, that's why.

>>102556320
She was under NDA, but as they're now bankrupt they can't persue her (or any of the others).

>>102556570
This honestly, Vei has Soda, not sure why she cares about a drama buff at this point, thought she hated streaming anyway, just shush and be a good trophy wife.

she's so lucky it's soda and people find him endearing because of his legacy as a streamer so they tolerate her

>>102554368 (OP)
i will not apologize.
also, soda is too good for her.

>>102556320
e-whores on the internet are all fake as hell, and will only jump on these kinds of drama trains when it's socially beneficial for them to do so, or they get something out of it

now watch every whore 2view/3view with an opinion jump on this like it's me fucking two so they can lap in the sympathy points from stupid people too

>>102554368 (OP)
imagine how many more random pets should could have bought with that money

>>102556817
>She was under NDA
Hold up, you except to believe that Vei was still under NDA between 2021 till now, even though she's been out of Vshojo, for what? 2 years now?
All while Mouse blew the lid on the whole operation presumably her FIRST day out of Vshojo AND while Kson literally dragged the JP manager on stream to publicly grill him?
This whole situation just reeks of Vei trying to get the benefits of being a whistleblower, all while not actually done anything that makes blowing the whistle a risk

so why say it now?

this is like froot suddenly going live even though they haven't streamed for ages

>>102558460
Do you think NDAs last for 1 year or something? 5 years is the average and there are some that can last until you die

>>102556752
it's a slander if she's lying. they will sue her ass to bankruptcy
>in b4 with what money
with money they got from her, it's a sure shot if she's lying, they could pay their lawyer after the case,

>>102554518
I'm actually a little happy now. This bitches deserves being robbed

>our bfs made us
This part seems true, though.

Wasn't this the bitch that talked about how bad hololive contracts were?
lmao

>>102558460
Do you think NDAs vanish after you quit retard? They can persist for YEARS.

vei haters are a whole different kind of scum, please end yourselves

>>102559165
Yeah, Silver's and Vei's comments on Holo and even Niji did not age well

>>102554368 (OP)
>didn't get paid for sponsors for 2 years 2 years ago
...and no one noticed nor said anything till just yesterday?

>>102558460
mouse doesn't have an NDA because ya know... shes the actually head of the company, she wouldn't bother with that, no rules apply to her

Wage theft is a criminal offense. Any one of these snakes could have spoken out at any time regardless of nda because then it becomes a legal issue. Unless somewhere in the vshojo nda it states that you're not allowed to speak out against the company including criminal offenses which is vanta coal midnight levels of black company bs.

>>102560031
>Unless somewhere in the vshojo nda it states that you're not allowed to speak out against the company including criminal offenses
That inherently voids NDAs in the US and I'm pretty sure every other Western country. The issue isn't whether the NDAs were actually enforceable (most NDAs aren't) it's that these are all youngish people who have little experience of the real world and are easily manipulated. It's no coincidence that Shylily, ruthless businesswoman thst she is, told them to go fuck themselves during contract negotiations when she was thinking of joining.

Gunrun is flip?

>>102558460
>This whole situation just reeks of Vei trying to get the benefits of being a whistleblower, all while not actually done anything that makes blowing the whistle a risk
Welcome to Twitch Streamers.

>>102556320
People publicly act like they have integrity but realistically, they're selfish

>>102554368 (OP)
Two things can be true at the same time

>>102558460
Are you seriously comparing a normal 4view from 2 years ago to a top ten world's biggest vtuber in a post-Selen vtuber industry?
Let's be real here, everyone including /vt/ would have sided against her if she whistleblowed, and breaking that NDA would have easily bankrupted her in the courts. It's not out of the realm to imagine this being real instead of a grift.

>>102554368 (OP)
vindicated from what? leaving is the only thing she has done right

>>102554368 (OP)
How fucking long has this company been insolvent? Has it been just a vtuber-themed ponzi scheme from the beginning?

>>102556817
If that's the case then they still are. The company stills exists retard. And second being desperate for money is a pretty good reason to sue.

>>102554368 (OP)
Vei quite literally calls you a cuck virgin for watching her.

>>102558460
This nigga has never worked a job

>>102561335
You mean indies

>>102556570
why do people hate vei?

>>102560031
The implication is that they were engaging in criminal activity as well. I don’t think Mouse found out about this stuff yesterday if it’s been going on for 4 years now.

>>102561548
They already have creditors that they collectively owe hundreds of thousands to (at least two talents have talked about six figure sums so if that's the case with all of them then it's likely to be over a million). They've clearly been moving what little money they have around, robbing Peter to pay Paul. I think they have no other option at this point but to file for bankruptcy and I doubt once they do they'll be allowed to spend what little they have left on a court case.

>>102556817
You don't actually need a lawyer to sue someone.

>>102561866
I don't believe a bunch of e-celebs went years without getting paid never saying anything and then suddenly there's a charity being robbed and no one on the front facing side of things has any idea or involvement.

>>102562003
I think its more a case of either a portion of the payout always being held or some payouts were missed and vshojo pretended they would be covered later.

>>102559445
>head of the company robbing herself and sinking her own company
Bold move

>>102556609
Always thought VShojo's model sounded too good to be real. Feel vindicated myself with how smug Vshojofags have always been about it for years.

>>102559303
>>102559165
Two/three things can be true at the same time. Are you retarded?

>>102560031
They don't get wages, you armchair monkey masquerading as a lawyer. Why not lecture people about turtle interference next?

Can we all just appreciate how lucky she got with that cynical depressed millionaire retard? She really ate that cake and got to keep it. You can't even cope that he self admittedly has a tiny cock because you just know he's 100% fine being her sex toy handler. She really hit that jackpot.

>>102554368 (OP)
If I had to deal with a mail order bride at all, I'd talk to her manlet husband instead.

>>102554368 (OP)
PhaseGODS, are we tired of winning yet?

I'm pretty shocked that, apparently, VShojo NDAs are so good that they aren't able to talk about being stiffed on payments for two years.
Is that even possible?

>>102563403
You're the ONLY one that implied otherwise. If you have a retarded thought, you should keep it in your mind next time so you can seethe at it all on your own.

>>102567166
If she got paid, yes.

>>102554368 (OP)
TALENT FREEDOM AIN'T CHEAP BITCH

>>102565328
All Vei does is smoke weed every day, talk about sex and farts, buy random animals she doesn't take care of and get her pussywhipped cuck millionaire bf to be her paypiggy

>>102554518
timestmap?

>>102554518
>>102567166
I think Vei and Nyan eventually managed to get paid sometime after they left thanks to their lawyers but yeah they got scammed too
>>102558460
>This whole situation just reeks of Vei trying to get the benefits of being a whistleblower, all while not actually done anything that makes blowing the whistle a risk
If this was true Vei would have streamed herself talking about it instead of posting it in Nyanners chat

Lmao that gunrun dude scammed the most popular vtubers for years. Dude is some kind of Mastermind.

>>102554368 (OP)
>Vei didn't get paid for sponsors from 2021 to 2023
It doesn't even matter now VEI WON and she has Texas slave-owner money to prop her up for the rest of her life!