Seeya Never Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/evanegrievance/status/1947736520619921676

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102550741

apologize.

>>102555111
>>102555126
>>102555149
So many wisps here, never knew

>>102555198
wtf

It is easier to find out who vshojo doesn't owe money to

>>102555111
You now remember merch orders being processed under VShojo that people took as proof she was /in/. And then she wasn't /in/ and we never got an explanation for that lmao

Tori confirmed the contracts are voided as of today, she was signed 7 months ago.

Holy shit I fucking love this girl, she's really a yapper. This is like a reverse debut for these girls

>>102555217
tourist dogwhistle

>they owe mint money
now they're even going to start pissing off the exnijis and they're friends with the exholos
is there ANYONE left who doesnt hate vshojo at this point?

>>102555221
We're back in 2021 baby

>>102555222
that was long time ago, maybe the y did help with her store and gunruned?

>>102555088 (OP)
My god all of this make me realise Panini and Doo should be flamed for being manipulators

Mint is now crying on stream about Vshojo owing her money.

>>102555221

>how do they fumble the bag this hard
they spent every dollar they got on living weeb dream in Japan and parties Nyan

>>102555246
Beri also mentioned January, they probably were all signed that month
Was she going to debut as herself or as a new persona?

>>102555214
she probably doesn't even have the files for that model

Damn this Nyanners lore drop is pushing corpo hate to a whole new level
Staff better watch the fuck out

Silver in chat
Sakura Love is real

>>102555246
>she was signed 7 months ago.
What the fuck? The auditions to bring in established indie talents already with models and everything were over more than half a year ago and they didn't debut yet?
Everything is a total mess.

By this point I expect them to owe Dooby money too

Minto also had upcoming stuff lined up related to Vshojo that are probably not gonna happen now

What if Vshojo never really received those millions or took it and started paying that back immediately? kek

>>102555341
I seriously think this will make the national news if it gets any crazier

>>102555388
Imagine if they'd actually debuted and gotten debut merch. That would have been some income lol

VShojo owes everyone money at this point lmao

>>102555439
Let charlie and assmongoloid cook first

>>102555316
Herself.
She was delaying a new model. Seems they were ghosted for a couple of months.

The talents apparently had no idea of them being the ones, they were never officially in any of the channels and stuff like that. No contact with any of the talents, or the staff in general, only one. She said this person was innocent and they were a "she"

>>102555388
Tori was gonna debut with a new model and identity

>>102555341
The only staff anyone's ever pointed towards is higher ups. Nyan even talked about how much she loved Panini

Nyan calling out people glazing Vshojo
she's talking about (you) from 2023 untill now

I felt bad but now I feel really bad for those anons who own vshojo merch

Vei, if you're reading this, I disliked you and Silver before you left and I still do.
The fact that VShojo turned out to be an absolute shithole doesn't change the fact that you're shitty people too.

>>102555480
They already did.

i just know mata is going to blame herself for what happened to minto

>>102555234
Ironically it might only be Vei since Vei had a really good lawyer that kepy hounding them for the money

>>102555262
Doesn't feel like it

>>102555504
apologize

>>102555512
Oh they've barely begun

Tori said again most, so there's another.
Unconfirmed who it is.

>>102555298
You have to remember where she came from. Her having to deal with this in the middle of everything else in her comeback must've been crazy. Then hearing about what happened to Mata, Kuro, Michi? Every other talent she's talked with, others she never has? Too much to hold in

who won
who lost

>>102555530
New rrat: Mata pursuing VShojo over Mint not getting paid is what got her canned

>>102555504
it's just a wizard game for children bro and now everyone is saying retard again so if anything vei was just ahead of her time

I'm assuming this confirms the hard separation between Mouse and Nyan was Nyan feeling like Mouse cared more about the company than the talents getting hurt there.

I just wanna say I still don't like how Silver threw shade at Mouse when she left, and maybe it was somehow related to all this VSJ shit but it was still petty and mean

>>102555388
Probably was hoping to have spare cash that they wouldn't need to immediately shuffle elsewhere so that they could sell the illusion that the new talent will be taken care of once they debuted, but couldn't get said spare cash.

>>102555603
a pioneer

>>102555504
Silver is amazing sweet girl
You are simply wrong

>>102555461
I'm suing, I just learned I've been talking shit about Vei for free

>>102555592
in all honestly probably

>>102555502
>don't glaze the company that looks good on the surface!
>sure, I didn't do anything to dissuade that, but don't do it!

>>102555592
Bro if that rrat is true I'll SHIT

>>102555571
I think Pia said the same. There's someone else who hasn't publicly said they were part of that

>even minto got hit in the crossfire
FUCK GUNRUN

>>102555590
>aethel
>180 cm
sure lol

>>102555482
Okay so that also lines up with Beri's account, though Beri mentioned that she wanted a specific artist to do her model but VShojo never actually even initiated the process

>The talents apparently had no idea of them being the ones, they were never officially in any of the channels and stuff like that.
that sort of makes sense, but it's weird if the actual talens were completely unaware of it
>No contact with any of the talents, or the staff in general, only one. She said this person was innocent and they were a "she"
likely panini, judging by her replies

Tori said she and the others reached out to each other and bonded as a small support group. Not even VShojo made them a group, so they reached out of book.

Man I wish I could work with this, seems like the most easy gig in the earth and just don't be a piece of shit to not ruin the money pile.

>>102555590
WHO'S NEXT?!
YOU DECIDE!
EPIC. RAP. BATTLES. OF HISTORY.

>They couldn’t even hint any of this stuff because higher ups lurked here too
>They had no where to go

Ok now I’ll apologize

>>102555441
With who though considering that they were fucking over contractors for months.

>>102555610
you think those 3 were all dealing with these issues and never spoke to mouse about it? I imagine they felt betrayed that mouse decided to stay.

>>102555592
I could unironically see this being true...

>>102555648
she literally said she couldn't warn people due to NDA
watch streams

>>102555603
Honestly saying retard on stream is based af

>>102555590
aint no way that rat is 4'9
i could literally stand up and she'd be on my dick

She warned you and you didn't listen

APOLOGIZE TO EVERY GIRL RIGHT NOW.

Knowing they're at least away from this shit is nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghxzLw2wRis

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE GUNRUN
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU FUCK UP THIS BAD
EVEN MINT

>>102555723
nta but I think his point is that if they couldn't warn us then we couldn't know either

>>102555608
holy confirmation bias
pink cat said nothing that might suggest this lmao

>>102555610
Nyan said Vshojo pitted the girls against each other.

>>102555502
Again with this?
We all got played like a fucking fiddle. We need to get Gunrun and burn all his backpacks in front of him.

>>102555694
Who the hell are these "higher ups"?

Damn this shit is making me feel like a fucking retard and I wasn't even spergy towards anyone.
It's like, I had no way of knowing and yet I feel stupid for falling for it.

Nyan confirmed it >>102543190

>>102555504
Retard isn’t even a slur. Calm down.

>>102555654
Pia said "the others" (who were in their discord) so there's more than one that hasn't gone public.

>>102555796
mtd
that faggot is guilty too, don't let his act fool you
he was spreading rrats against Vei and Silver here when they left

these girls are afraid of breaking NDA but it's not like vsj will have any funds to sue them

>>102555766
exactly

>>102555778
>I see Mata, Zen, and Geega dealing with all this
>No Mouse mention

reminder that vei in incredibly thin-skinned and seeing 2-3 negative comments on 4chan of all places means everybody hated her, and not because she throws stones from her glass house.

People actually praised her for being mature about it when she left, so idk wtf she's smoking

>>102554575
>WHERE THE FUCK DID IT GO
>Did someone buy an island?
I've worked for a startup that raised $5M and burned through it in 2 years. I have friends who worked at companies that raised more ($10M to $30M) and burned it faster. It's pretty easy to spend a few million a year on a medium-sized team's salaries, plus SaaS business services, plus marketing services, plus PR stuff like conventions, etc.

They should not have been able to mismanage their books for this long while keep up appearances. It's honestly kind of an achievement, albeit a really evil achievement that fucked over good people.
But it's likely that is the entire story: They over-hired and spent more than they earned. They spent it on fancy shit that didn't contribute directly to more revenue (example: they paid someone who auditioned but didn't join? wtf?). They tried to NOT pay people (artists, etc.) to keep their moment of insolvency just a few more weeks in the future.

There's probably no yacht, no house, no single moment where money was "funneled" anywhere, or single account where it can be found or clawed back from. Just irresponsible over-spending in a thousand small situations, and a "growth will solve everything" hypothesis that failed.

>>102555846
She's just talking about the leavers

>>102555781
Of course. vshojo was also responsible for that time at my old job when I overslept and was late for work on the day corporate was visiting

>>102555838
lol

According to Nyan, VShojo basically lied to the rest of the members about why the three left in order to make then look bad to them

>>102555858
apologize

>>102555846
lmao
give it a rest

>>102555592
I'm buying this rrat, post it on /news/ and some catalog threads so it gets some traction.

>>102555879
kys mtd

>>102555879
Pay up, gunrun

>>102555316
>>102555482
seemingly she just confirmed they wanted her to rebrand and wouldn't allow her to keep her IP

>>102555858
You lost

nyan confirming that other members like mouse believed vshojos lies over the leaving members putting the company first over friends

>Vshojo badmouthing leavers to remaining members on stuff like how they wanted lawyers to read contract
ALL the fucking rrats were created by fucking vshojo staff

Tori said that every month she did get a response of them saying "she was debuting, and they would get their budget"

Also wtf Tori was just starting, but since she didn't applied as Tori so VShojo straight up told her to not BE Tori, and that she would be a different thing, name and model. To be fair, Tori also said it was like a burner.

>>102555858
A ton of people think she left so she could say retard freely. Might still be a tertiary reason.

oof

This is very bittersweet
Like they've been getting tortured by NDAs but now the uppers are going to get fucking hounded in court

>>102555590
>I am 36 cm taller than Snuffy

i knew lig was full of shit when they kept saying nyan wasn't still around here. once its in your soul, you can't get free.

yea yea anyways
how much of this would affect the chances of vei not using jpeg related?

>the lawyer on vshojos side wasnt even licensed

>>102555530
She should.

>it took the company imploding for this place to go back to 2021
Kinda weird

why did vei and silver commission art to celebrate their departure if they knew they were being played by vshojo to be perceived as bitches for leaving in that exact fashion

>>102555858
yeah, again, the only thing anons here had a problem with was silver throwing shade at mouse on main
pink cat and vei got no real backlash here

This did not age well...

NO WAY THEY DIDN'T PAY HER FOR THE COOKIE RUN SPONSOR WHERE SHE GOT SWATTED

>>102555969
Tori is an account she made after her debut was delayed, at least according to her Youtube video.

>>102555963
OMG. Mouse Schizo was so bad lately because Mouse was threatening to drop this. It all make sense. Gun is IM schizo

>People like Kson and Michi
>Once again no Mouse mention

>>102555924
Its easy to shit on vshojo now in the moment, but once this calms you will remember the words these three actually said at the time they left.

>Nyan didn't get paid for the sponsor she got swatted during
lmfao. I know I shouldn't be laughing but that's so fucking cartoonishly evil lmao

VShojo failed to pay for the Cookie Run kingdom sponsor where Nyan got swatted

how the fuck did vshojo last this long without paying their talent?

So, something I have been thinking about since yesterday and enlighten me if there is alternate ways. If Ironmouse does legal action against vshojo, how is she going to keep her identity under wraps? Surely she will need to use her legal name. Hell, how would she testify? iPad with her vtuber avatar?

>>102556047
They played into Guns hand

>>102556051
who do you think wrote those lyrics

Tori said she always dreamed of joining. Damn

Remember when Michi's lawyer was like "yeah, this contract is great for you, but I don't see how the company makes money"?
I guess we know how they covered their costs now

https://x.com/pinkpeonyvt/status/1938260418792706402

>>102556069
>words they said
>under a draconian NDA

>>102556047
gunrun made them do it by contract, the conniving bastard

>>102554575
A good chunk of it went into shit like this

>>102556086
There’s a way
Probably

>>102556011
There are oldfags here, simple as
We remember the good times they gave us, leaving didn't remove them from our memories

>>102556047
they were celebrating being free

Remember that Phoenix nigga who advised during the doxxer thing? Dude was like half the reason the N*x drama happened

>>102556086
theres been a precedent for a long time of having a closed court room for children and people who can't be around other people for medical reasons, so they testify in front of just the judge or just the jury, depending on the context of the trial.

I just found out gunrun owes me 150k who do i contact about this

>>102556077
>swatted
I don’t remember that

>>102556163
Can't wait to see this fuck ugly bitch in an orange jumpsuit.

>>102556051
Do you think she will ever forget it and wouldn't try to shit on them for entire life?

>>102556051
Didn't Mouse say she was never leaving a few weeks ago?

>>102556086
>how
i would assume he would be like Bane from batman where she would be connected to numerous tubes almost covering her face.

What do you have to say to the lurking remaining vshojo handlers?

>>102556195
She only revealed it happened later

Is one of the higher ups actually trying to astroturf now lmao

>>102556049
I think she just hated that she got none of the attention from leaving. She also made a whole deal about saying "retard" which was just cringe. Idc whether or not she says it but it came off as "haha, look at me so edgy xD"

>>102556221
post bussy

Vshojo is Sinder of vtuber orgs

>>102556047
Play along to get along.

>>102556188
People'd have to find him first.

https://www.twitch.tv/pumpkinpotion
PumpkinPotion is currently on stream talking about her audition with VShojo.
She was under NDA for six months.

Damn, nvm it just got to Tori, she feels so stupid for believing too much. It was her dream man.

>>102555592
zen said that whole situation really pissed her off, it's probably right on the money

>>102556163
No that's a pittance don't be naive
A good chunk went into their six figure salaries

you know it wouldn't surprise me they tried to sow discord between zen and mouse

>>102556221
I'll buy the brand for a tenner and a can of Spam. Hit me up, Ignacio.

>>102556117
I'm going to be honest, I could see why Pia and Beri were chosen, but Tori is meh.

I think the Tori girl implied that their VShojo gen wasn't supposed to be just the 3 of them, but rather that not everyone that was supposed to be in it has gone public (yet?)

>>102556185
Court doesn't just refer to a physical space and in the united states you have the right to know your accuser.

Considering the lack of any kind of comment, how likely is that gunrun accidentally made himself sign an NDA?

>>102556029
who

>>102556221
https://youtu.be/0g_Am2q_FBE

>>102556257
This is my last chance ever. I might legitimately buy a Froot mousepad or something I've always wanted one but kept putting it off

>>102556296
100%

>>102556221
they should buy a chair

>>102556296
they 100% did

>noncompete
so vshojo was the real black compnay all along... not even holo or niji did this...

>>102556221
https://youtu.be/jZOywn1qArI?t=4

I made a post in a twitch comment section asking gun for 5k and he agreed

Where the fuck is my money gun and no, I don’t have the screenshot

>>102556163
How much of it is actually innovative and how much is roomba strapped to mop with ipad?

apologize to vei now

>>102556207
hell, even zen said mouse would never leave
so you know when it happened she was shocked

>>102556221

>>102556312
no, i was talking strictly about the testifying in person part. obviously her identity will be public knowledge after the trial.

>>102556296
We saw Zen talk about what caused that, though. It was literally livestreamed.

>>102556296
This 100% happened.
Nyan basically confirmed they will do that sort of stuff since they did that when the trio left in 2023

>>102556296
this but unironically, they were gaslighting mouse to fit their mold

>>102556329
when i was a kid me and my friends would prank call each other and say penis several times

>>102556386
apologize to who?

I would like to formally apologize for saying that the missing donations are charged back made from the credit card companies that the troll made.

>>102556086
Nigga we live in the fucking Zoom age where lawyers fuck up having a cat filter talking to a judge. Henya and Zen both have literally watched a clip from Daily Dose of a black woman being told by a judge to stop making a damn sandwich during her zoom adjudication.

>>102556146
The NDA forced nyanners to stop mentioning mouse except that one time a year later when she mentioned mouse in passing and then never brought her up again, and also the NDA forced her to be chummy with gunrun at cons and the charity auction.

>>102556449
You will only be forgiven if you post more funny doros

this is comically evil
but I'm not laughing

Why didn't Garfield warn us?

>Pia, Beri and Tori met together and Panda Express
That's nice.

if i was an independent contractor not getting paid by my employer and being told to believe certain things about my coworkers also contracted under them i would simply not fall for anything the people not paying me were saying but im built different i guess

>>102556373
I just checked and something like it goes for about 4k

Hey guys?

...What if it turns out the Tiltify turns out to be a scam as well and the funds from that go bye-bye?

>>102556386
She can't stream because of what's happening with Vshojo. She'll pick up now.

>>102556308
Beribug said the same thing, she mentioned the Discord they were in - "Pia, Tori, me, and the others" - reacted to the news together.

Fuck man, this Nyan shit drained me and Henya hasn't even started her stream

>>102556357
Nazuna had an agreement. What Niji and Holo have hasn't been spilled because those companies aren't dead and they actually have money. They have all this NDA crap too that hasn't and might not expire.

>>102556501
I vote we add them to the OP. Lets get to know them without the Pink V cancer

>>102556357
they could be doing it now
the exholo staffer fit right in

>>102556471
kek that sounds unnecessarily evil
this is some truly odd shit

>>102556482
Sure, also what happened to gunrun's backpack business?

>>102556501
had Panda Express* sorry lol

>>102556524
That would be a global scandal and unironically related to vtubers

>>102556392
wait what happened

>>102556011
she said on myau that she wouldn't be lurking all the time but she'd probably check in from time to time, I never forgot

>>102556471
they probably sent a cease and desist threat to her after that

>>102555217
We know the reason why

Vshojo staff when you ask them why did they steal money from chairty and didn't pay their talents

>>102556552
From the sound of what's happening I don't think any vtuber wants to be associated with this thread lol

>>102556564
Unknown. I believe people said that the two businesses are entirely separate, but assuming VShojo has some huge debts to pay I'm sure he has actual assets that can be taken as collateral for it lol.

>>102556296
>to obtain unity we had to destroy the original "unity"
Kino, but also fuck gunrun

i never watched nyanners, what did she say

>>102556524
>gunrun sitting at a desk
>stroking a cat
>admiring his shell company to funnel even more charity donations to himself
>"All according to keikaku"

>>102556296
I bet most of the drama and rrats came from them

This is manager pitting band members against each other shit

Vshojo told Quinn they'd take him on if he quit Niji, he quit Niji, then they changed their mind and said they might take him on later on.

>have a sweet gig
>buttloads of money with minimal effort
>still manage to fuck it up
Why the sweetest gigs are handed to the biggest piece of shit?

NYAN IS SHITTING ON THE BACKPACK

The only thing i don't get is if Nyan knew this shady shit was happening why did she do that karaoke stream with Gunrun right before she left?

>even the backpack sucks
lmao fuck gunrun

oh no, the backpack

backpack mentioned

im still banned on vei's chat

Oh shit, Nyan is going after the backpacks

Nyan is now ranting about how much she hates the backpack. It's so over bros...

oh now shes gone too far. Shitting on backpacks

>>102556692
too far
gunrun is driving to her location now

>THAT BACKPACK IS FUCKING GARBAGE
lmao

>the backpack actually sucks

>>102556644
Some would say lots of things were said

BACKPACK IS SHIT

>>102556470
I think there was a one for a dude driving with a suspended license... and he was driving while facing a judge for that.

>>102556608
Damn i remember really missing mint's old model but seeing it again after a while and it's kinda jank.

>>102556587
She got deep into her feelings about a friend not playing with her and coming up with excuses like saying she was sick but Zen seeing her collabing with other people instead. She was asking chat if that person was really a friend or some shit like that.
People thought it was Ari at first, but Zen blocking Mouse and everything pretty much confirmed who it was.

>>102556507
This is used car salesman level of evilness
They also target women

>>102556712
now she's crossing the line

This will make Gunrun finally give a response

>>102556670
first fefe and now this, vshojo redeemed?

It's poetic that it was a fucking backpack that made Nyan crash out

what happened to all the good gunrun pr he did with nyan?
remember when he helped athel and nyan irl stream AFTER nyan left?
didn't he help with internet problems they were having at their new place too?

backpack bros...

Nyan........

Gunrun did nothing wrong
Women and vtubers especially are retarded cattle who deserve to be manipulated and swindled out of their unearned money
The proletariat can't take over the means of production while these untalented leeches exist

Tori is out $5k on a Vshojo debut that they strung her along on for 8 months and then cancelled.

>>102556332
>They still have Nazuna mousepads
lol. But fuuuuuck these prices are so high.

Teri said she will use the stuff VShojo gave her and debut tomorrow lol
The model is not completed, she got the full design but it's not rigged. But she got a chibi.
>>102556670
What the fuck he did said that kek

I always thought it looked like some cheap bullshit
Gunrun's backpack license has been REVOKED

>>102556694
lmao called out

>>102556686
they get used to the money and too lazy too keep things going well

kek nyan calling out the whining about the gunrun karaoke

>>102556670
is that even legal? they knowingly hurt him by promising him shit

>>102556808
gunrun please pay someone, anyone it doesnt matter just one single person

It’s just one after the other

Nyan, its been awhile, but I forgive you.

Now fucking fully redeem yourself and beat MGS4

>The karaoke stream with gunrun was also used against Nyan
VShojo truly is evil
>>102556694
lol called out

>>102556820
it's for charity anon

>>102556843
Retarded if you think this is just inability and not malicious at this point

>>102556694
BTFO
You got manipulated by Gun Hack

>>102556670
uhhh bazed

>>102556595
>cease and desist
Those words can now be changed to Cyst and Disease

>>102556509
I know it's nothing for hardware, but do they maybe did some magical fuckery with the protocol / bands e.t.c so it can work at those underground con centers with thousand people at acceptable speeds, or is it just the ipad with a router stick? How is this thing supposed to be better than just hiring the poor student with a tablet?

>>102556771
Gunrun already ran to another country is bumfuck nowhere. Good luck finding that motherfucker, authorities will probably start a investigation only to find him a suspect of criminal activity in months to come when he is already safe and sound. Also you niggers will probably find another vtuber marriage to be outraged with lmao.

>>102556751
Yeah. The point is, with all that shit possible I can see a scenario where the most of Ironmouse's rl identity being exposed would be her real name.

>>102556694
I think she was giving Gunrun the benefit of the doubt at the time

>>102556802
please ignore the previous actions of nyanners, nyanners previous associates were responsible for those actions. nyanners is with a new audience right now and is a new person.

>>102556357
>noncompete
but they told orca they were trust-based company and didn't do that only when THEY had to sign one themselves

Gunrun what the hell is wrong with you

Are people going to burn their backpacks now?

>>102556592
thats generally the final form for oldfags. people like meat, bat, nyan and lucy. they don't really talk about it anymore, but you can bet they still come here now and then.

so vshojo withheld money from talents for years and no one said anything? no lawyer? are these women retarded?

>>102556898
i consider it being both

>>102556876
Forgive?
No, it's time for you to apologize

>>102556608
Can't look at this image again in the same way. Would replay the podcast some days and smile but now we know too much

>>102556917
>Also you niggers will probably find another vtuber marriage to be outraged with lmao.
The fuck does that have to do with us?

alright i have to take the dog out before i get addicted to the drama again
someone keep notes on the rest of nyans stream

>>102556968
>women retarded
yes anon

Hey Anons that have all those pics praising gunrun
What are you doing with them now

>>102556968
yes

>>102556968
You now learn how easy it is to manipulate people and how much bullshit people are willing to tolerate.

>>102556825
>Teri said she will use the stuff VShojo gave her and debut tomorrow lol
>The model is not completed, she got the full design but it's not rigged. But she got a chibi.

honestly. no one is gonna stop her

>>102556831
>>102556887
wasn't watching, what do you mean? did he coerce her into doing that stream or something?

>>102557006
It's nearly 1am where I am this drama is like fucking crack

>>102557014
That was staff

Tori said they promised a lot, and she lost 7 months waiting. She's gonna continue so that's nice for her.

>>102556968
Because of NDA

I, for one, am still SHOCKED that a company whose business model makes zero sense in terms of sustainability and relied on VC injections turned out to have financial irregularities and potential impropriety.

Who could've seen it coming?

>>102556917
Gunrun's actually currently deleting negative comments about himself on his streamer backpack discord.

I have an assignment due at 11:59 but I can't focus because I wanna keep up with everything. What do i do?

>>102556831
Still doesn't answer my question? If she knew the company wasn't paying their talents it seems weird she'd be chummy with the guy fucking her over. I mean he didn't even pay her for the cookie run sponsor but sure lets go out drinking with the scumbag? It's just weird

>>102556968
Vshojo isn't a company. It's more like a family. You have a bunch of leeches you have to support and that's where all of your money goes.

>>102556968
NDAs and heavy manipulation

There's a reason that Monke has basically rebuilt the backpack from the ground up for his shit.

>>102557014

Sup. Left a few months back, what up, how we holding? I'm unexpectedly really happy that this is what was happening in the bg and not some drama going on with the girls. Pic unrel, I deleted my pics I had saved for here.

Now we don't have to worry if the girls don't talk to eachother. They're not in the same team, they can do whatever.

Tori's model was made by Cluseller
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>102556816
Someone tell Zen I'm sure she'll cover it.
>>102557056
Really hoping all the former members promote the shit out of the people who would have been their coworkers. Give them the VShojo rub even though the company no longer exists

>>102556670
If that's true then lol, lmao. He's a snivelling little cunt.

>>102556825
Thank you for posting this again, anon

So is Gunrun the villain now or did his other staff fuck him and the talents over?

>>102557073
I'm going to bed with a paused vod of nyannersyapathon, going to catch up tomorrow evening
gn lads

>>102557073
Do your work dumdum

Waait it’s a long shot but gun used to work at twitch, maybe this goes even higher or further than vshojo
There could be entities of other cooperations involved

froot on the waifu sim now

bbno once again showing to be one of the best things to ever happen to mouse

>>102557116
FUUUUUUCK WE COULD'VE HAD ANOTHER VORETUBER FUCK YOU VSHOJO

>>102557139
If he's innocent he better speak the fuck up real quick. For now, the C suite from top to bottom are the enemy.

>>102557174
she's straight up gooning to Michelle

What if Goodsmile was willing to make Silver nendo but Vshojo declined the offer and then told Silver she has low noombers and Mouse took priority over her

>>102557139
Not one yapper has given an ounce of leeway to him specifically
Enemy

>>102557139
all I know is when false was showed the mtd tweet on stream the whole chat gave it the sideeye like they didn't buy it

>>102556825
Hmmm. Kinda wish she did it with more time, hype and shit. I hope they do good.

i'm honestly shocked that nobody leaked anything about this earlier

like a bunch of streamers actually keeping quiet about being owed 6 figures is insane to me

>>102557139
Gunrun can slang his gay backpack from federal prison

i really dont think NDAs are a magical unconditional shield that protects a company from doing literally whatever they want to you for years like they all seem to believe

where is silver
where is nazuna
why is vei not streaming
why is nyan's throat so fucking dry

these are the questions we should be asking

lmao, Froot just realized she has a lot of accounts to rename

>>102557185
Well she's gonna be around, possibly not around all of the girls. But she is gonna keep it.

>>102557217
If only a single person was told a piece of information and that info gets leaked you know who leaked it and can pursue legally lol

I now wonder if Henya was rushed to have more pressure on Mouse to prevent her from leaving.

>>102557175
wow, bars
I get why this guy is considering a lyrical genius now!

>if you leave, people are going to be harassed because of you
>if you leave, the company will suffer because of you
>can you wait several months to space out the leaving so it looks better on us and worse on you?
>same thing with Mouse

I feel bad for Gunrun

I wonder: was the enthusiasm matara and Michi showed for Vshojo in the first half of 2024 genuine? It sure felt that way since Matara then went out of her way to help other ex nijis escape to vshojo

honestly I'm surprised VSJ has made no official statement yet, not even just throwing some random staff under the bus or anything

>>102557139
As someone who has worked with major CEOs before: there is no fucking way he didn't know.

>>102557242
>where is silver
She made a tweet
She has stream tomorrow

>>102556968
the bourgeoisie does not concern itself with such paltry sums that could be damn near life changing to a working class person
none of these women would be talking if Mouse hadn't spoke out
and Mouse wouldn't have spoke out if it hadn't impacted the charity she cares about

these people live a completely different life from the common folk like you and I
they're barely even human with their concerns being so alien and unrelatable

>>102556968
Yes
Yes they are
These are my cute retards and it checks out

I could probably tell them sucking my cock would make their numbers moon

It is morally correct to steal from vtumors

>>102557235
Most streamers (and specially vtubers) are retarded and thus easily fucked via legal fuckery. It's why this industry is infested with conmen.

>>102557139
I want him drawn and quartered

>>102557268
are you Gunrun?

>>102557235
Sure but they aren't toothless contracts either
They just fucked up enough so that soon none of them will matter

RELEASE THE LIST VSHOJO

>>102557254
Really hope someone takes these girls and still gives them the big boost they deserve. Zen pls.

>>102557268
Why, he’s going to club fed not pounded in the ass state prison

>>102557139
He always was the villain

>>102557139
He's absolutely the villain

https://x.com/Teru_Sodo/status/1947590077422633214

>>102557217
I wouldn't be surprised if it was leaked in bits and pieces randomly here

>>102557235
many of the talents could have broken nda much earlier and probably even won against any legal rebutal but didn't want the headache

>>102557217
Legal system is insane in America
Plus at the time any of that shit getting leaked out would have probably caused a hate wave at Vei, Nyan, and Silver since VShojo dickriders would have just claimed they were lying

>>102557265
niji graduation queue all over again

>>102557235
they aren't, but most people aren't willing to risk getting sued for violating a contract

>>102557265
Literally niji tier...

>>102557273
No response is the best response for this shitfest

>>102556670
that's pretty fucking funny

>>102557175
>one of the best things
>can't even be assed to donate to a charity that directly benefits her

3 guys post "SHE SAID IRONMOUSE!??!?!?" when she says Ironmouse.

Noone says anything when she says Mouse.

Lifehack: If you only hire women you can simply not pay them for years at a time and they won't do anything about it

>>102557273
All the staff fled, it's just Gunrun now kek

realistically what is the % that vsj goes scorched earth

>>102557139
cunt better speak up if he was fucked over because its looking like hes enemy #1 right now

>Mouse doesn't need VShojo, VShojo needed her
Based Nyan spreading the socialist message to the masses

>>102557270
yeah, it didn't get bad for matara until this year
michi probably didn't know shit until this week

>>102557175
Based handsome hero

>>102557273
Vshojo management is in the same position as the French nobility during the French revolution. Surrounded on all sides by everyone, with nowhere to run.

>>102557139
We don’t know but no one has publicly defended him yet
For all we know staff could be putting all the blame on him while they catch a private plane outta here

>>102557139
He was revealed as the villain the moment the video dropped and the only name mentioned by any member or indie was him (until Aethel I think).
The thread was immediately /xvsj+/ with no complaint.

>>102557377
50/50
It either happens or it doesn't

>>102557366
Paid VShojo staff shills clearly (They don't realize yet that they aren't getting paid anymore)

>>102557377
0. Hai.

>>102557300
No, I just think he was an idealistic guy with good intentions who was confronted with reality and lost his way. I wouldn't be surprised if he offs himself or already has.

>>102557377
Vshojo's lost all their clients, almost all their staff, and the root cause is they have no money to do anything. They can't afford to sue anyone. Gun could dox them all on his way out the door I guess.

Am I going crazy. Nyan has been talking about the same 3 things over and over again.

>>102557393
That's an individualist message.

>>102557273
the smart the to do is to stay quiet
all the talents will probably counter any bs PR response shat out by a lawyer

>>102557206
MTD tweet came across as eating caviar and oysters from an escort's belly button while telling Gunrun that it's not cool that the employees leeched the talent's money

>>102557377
The scorched earth they’re likely to do is file for bankruptcy which would immediately screw all of the girls as independent contractors are considered unsecured creditors and get paid dead last (so get nothing)

IT WAS VSHOJO
THEY KILLED PINK LOVE
IT WAS THEM ALL ALONG

>>102557377
We're cooking something up ;)

Tori says it's a bit selfish, but she feels bad and sad that even if she was a talent on paper, the fact that their situation is kinda just in the side because they weren't really "vshojo talents", is a bit hurtful. They still got fucked over seeing the Beri take, yeah...

okay, now shes just repeating scripts.
shes pretty much just reading bullet points.

>>102557175
The best part about Mouse leaving is she no longer has to pretend to clout chase these kind of people to support Vshojo. We can finally be done with him for good after the concert.

>>102557217
Ndas and lurking staff members

>>102557393
we joked that mouse leaving would kill the corp
we never actually thought we'd see it

>>102557463
once again schizos in vsj were right

>>102557454
She has limited brain capacity

Imagine being Mel seeing the company you found for passion falling down like this

>>102556670
ahahaha
okay that's based

With how Nyan's talking about how VShojo turned talents against eachother, it's no one we've always had unity issues.

>>102557454
She's trauma dumping.

>>102557413
So all the girls will start turning on each other with Google Dockeys once VShojo goes and someone even worse than Gunrun will rise from this mess to hurt even more people in worse ways with a bigger company?

>>102557465
PUT THE GIRLS IN THE OP

>>102557454
zen did the same in her stream

"I'm sorry"
"I can't say much now"
"I didn't know about X"

>>102557454
She is releasing two years of bitterness, it would be weird if she had a perfect speech ready

>>102557463
That's just cope.

RELEASE THE FUCKING LIST VSHOJO

>>102557465
I also agree with her because Beri's stream broke my heart, but most people are focused on the main talents because they were the face of the company AND the issue with the talents involve a massive amount of money

>>102556670
You guys think it was our fault they went back on Quinn? Like, they gauged our reaction and decided we didn't want him?

>>102557413
>Vshojo management
mtd left and is pointing the finger at gunrun
panini left and is pointing the finger at gunrun
everyone below them will be pointing the finger at gunrun
apek doesnt exist and likely hasnt existed for years
gunrun has been dead in a ditch for 4 months

>>102557253
Just be based like Michi, use Niji email

>>102557393
That's not a political talking point it's a fundamental truth
The workers are what make things work, shocker

>>102556670
Based

>>102557200
Nyan had two figures, a nendo and pop up parade. Vei had a pop up parade and was getting one of those $300+ figures.

>>102557465
Why I'm really hoping the former members pull a stepdad and do what they can to elevate the shit out of them.

Confirmation that it was a generation and that there's people who didn't go foward

fuck it vshojo is worse than nijisanji

>>102557464
Pay what you owe and fold you clownish motherfuckers

I'm trying to think of ways that this could get any worse, legit only thing I can think is if Henya reveals on her stream that they forced her to do sexual favors to get that 3D model.

>>102555590
Nyanners tallest women

>>102557540
Definitely. Good thing we were outspoken about him.

>>102557509
Why has not a single vshojo member responded to her tweets? You'd think there'd be some compassion shown considering she helped start this thing

Turns out, the real barrier to unity was VShojo itself

Gunrun = epstein
Leavers = children
/vsj+/ = retards

>>102557534
THIS
Show me henyas butthole

>>102557542
Gunrun is actively moderating his backpack discord to remove mean comments about him.

>>102557542
They'll fine gunrun overdosed in his penthouse playing runescape for 75 hours

>>102557614
Epstein was a good guy though

>>102557540
>they gauged our reaction and decided we didn't want him?
if they did that, then they're extremely brain-dead, using /here/ for business decisions?

>>102557465
Imo getting strung along for months after youve already signed a contract, and debut gets delayed with unclear reasons, id say they got fucked over

Again, feel so bad for Nova and the new debuts that were about to happen.... ;_;

>>102557489
I honestly thought she would either die in a couple of years from her illness, leave if she got bad enough where she couldn't stream anymore, or was offered something too good to pass up. I figured vshojo would carry on but slowly decline.

Granted, I didn't have fucking charity fraud on my bingo card.

I know it's not gonna happen but I wish a talent led company could be formed from the ashes

>>102557217
It's likely that each one of them figured that they were the only ones being affected. Raising any kind of stink was difficult with the NDAs, plus they still believed in the other talents and core ideas of the company so didn't want to be the one to tear it all down. 6 figures I alot of money sure but it's not as if they *needed* the money, and taking legal action would be time consuming, expensive and could end up hurting the other talents/friends. You'd be amazed at how much people tolerate when they actually like the people they work with directly (streamers and managers) and enjoy the job itself.

>>102557537(me)
also not to mention that this was only made public because of Mouse's video

>when Vshojo started, we thought, "Yes, finally a good company"

>>102557591
okay, pump the brakes there. lets wait until someone talks about how vsj covered up sexual abuse and harassment before we go down that road. once they do, though, i'm with you there.

>>102557595
NUMBER ONE BAYBEEEEEEEE

>>102556968
Americans have it down to an art.
You never talk about how much you earn, or if you've been paid, or anything like that.
You must trust the company. The company will do right by you. You have to have faith in the company.
Ostracize those who talk about wages, shun those who talk about workers' rights. Report those who talk of unions.
The company is your provider, the company is your healthcare, the company is your pension, the company is your family.

>>102557591
Vshojo cast a wider net with how many were impacted, but Niji had graver problems that almost resulted in someone's suicide

>>102556670
im investing 11 million more dollars to vshojo for this

>>102557627
Get of 4chan Mr President, you've got scamcoins to shill.

>>102557633
Geega didn't dismiss the idea of it in the future. She just said let people be independent for a while first.

>>102557628
>Then they're brain-dead
Yeah, sounds about right

>>102557542
I choose to believe this because it would be funny.

>>102557175
you misspelled conmor it happens

>>102557598
>legit only thing I can think is if Henya reveals on her stream that they forced her to do sexual favors to get that 3D model.
Consider this : Henya wanted to rebrand as a lewdtuber and Vshojo told her to stay "seiso" instead of going full on.

>>102557591
Anytime I defended vshojo it was vshojo talent
The handlers were a second thought and I really hope they get what’s coming to them

>>102557604
It does seem weird that no members no other indies even comment on her post yeah

>>102557332
Half of them, aren't in America. It's probably some form of shared guilt, maybe not that borrible as some schizos make it look but some mutual manipulations totally happened

>>102557617
He can’t moderate the feds from kicking his doors in or extraditing him

>>102557235
They aren't and any lawyer can get them tossed immediately in court, especially with shit like this going on.

>>102557660
the only reason no one killed themselves in vshojo is they're somehow more mentally stable than selen was

Tori said that she heard whispers about some shit going down in Offkai, but nothing as bad as what has been revealed.
I assume it was the fact that the company was in deep money shit.

She also said that not even Gunrun knew about them (directly) lol

>>102557633
VShojo had no money because they pushed being Talent First
it's a retarded utopian pipedream

Please add Beri, Pia and Tori to the OP

Weird Nyan isn't mentioning Mel...

>>102556670
Why the fuck did they try to recruit him of all people? If this is true, it's thanks to them that we had to deal with Quinn collabs.

>hasn't even mentioned mel
pink cat HATES her

>>102557633
Yeah I mean that's why I got into VShojo in the first place. It's a really nice idea and up until the big reveal VShojo looked to be the realization of that idea lol.

>>102557578
zen would absolutely do this

>>102557477
rob says otherwise

>>102557581
>people who didn't go foward
as in people who haven't publicly mentioned anything yet, or as in people that didn't make it past the last round of auditions? because if it's the latter then that's kinda obvious

>>102557607
Damn
This is a fucking movie level twist and ending

>>102557658
This is the actual reality in the US

https://youtu.be/AQeGBHxIyHw?si=ylqePyAXOPRrG3NA

>>102557657
Number one debtor, yes

>>102557708
>She also said that not even Gunrun knew about them (directly) lol
wat? how does that work?

Mel was in on it, screenshot this for the future, shes really quiet

>>102557591
No I wouldn't go that far

>Vshojo fucked over a good chunk of ex-nijis
>remember stream when Kuro said he wasn't trying to convince Ike to join Vshojo
So that's why...

>>102557465
The fires are still burning, but once we see some ashes underneath we should do something to give those girls some attention.

>>102557708
Bwah? How?

>>102557760
Like, they only knew one staff member was talking to them directly. Never spoke to anyone else.

>>102557708
How the fuck would gunrun not know?

>I despise not yapping constantly
Tori is perfect

>>102557712
Loutlot himself said that it was working just fine in VShojo JP and they were bringing in more money than they spent. They were just very poorly managed on the EN side.

>>102557658
Yeah, maybe boomers. Millennials and below have tossed that sentiment out the window completely.

>>102557760
When companies get big enough, CEO probably lets managers and staff handle smaller people, as the CEO should probably have more important things to do.
Again, I think Vshojo in this case was way overstaffed hence this happened

>>102557771
Mel used all the money to give herself catshit coffee enemas

>>102557759
Nah, we already got shit sorted out. You'll see soon.

>>102557633
Fact is that having a company of any sort has its benefits compared to being indie.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if one or more groups form in the vein of Vchiban and 3AM from VShojo's ashes.
Michi, Mata and Kuro would be the mostly likely to do this

>Tori was planning on playing Lies of P as her debut game
based as hell
I can't tell her accent, it sounds really southern lol

Mel is suspiciously quiet

>>102557722
>>102557733
These posts smell like caviar and backpacks

Vtuber corpo tierlist:

>S tier: Hololive, Mythic
>A tier: Phase Connect, VDere
>B tier: Glitch Stars, VAllure
>C tier: ChromaShift, V4Mirai, V&U
>D tier: Nijisanji, Wactor
>F tier: VShojo

>>102557273
Gunrun accidentally signed his own NDA

>>102557845
Hot

>>102557771
That's what happens when your bf is one of the higher ups. Makes it awkward for everyone

>>102557814
Loutlot is full of shit
He hadn't paid Kson in a year and awkwardly tried passing the buck when pushed on that

>>102556670
Why though. He had no real audience beyond whatever ship he was doing with Enna and he wasn't entertaining. It does explain why for like 2 weeks, everyone tried to prop him up in collabs. That was strange.

a part of me hopes that now mel can go back to retweeting nsfw on main but a part of me knows that road is over

>>102557900
kek

>>102557814
>VShojo JP and they were bringing in more money than they spent
Who's in VShojo JP? Henya and Kson?

>>102557833
Fucking kek, saved

>>102557852
Yeah we’ll see you in a bankruptcy court i’m well aware

>>102557628
Not entirely, you're more likely to get genuine reactions /here/ than reddit or discord. You just have to know how to tune out schizos and shitposters.

hit me with a link for the people we've found out were the next gen. i know beri, but not the others.

Is Gunrun the Osho of Vshojo?

>>102557950
And Nova

>>102557900
Fucking kek

>>102557889
Mythic is a general streamer org, not a vtuber one

>>102557889
>ChromaShift and V4M in the same tier as V&U
The fuck did they do

>>102557965
This girl is speaking right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNY-EPD6Mkc
This one will speak later
https://www.youtube.com/@PiaPIUFO

>>102557889
despite everything, I unironically still wouldn't place vsj below niji

Geexplus about to sweep up the ex talents

>>102558000
thanks. thats why, they're youtube. i'll still check them out in solidarity though.

>>102558015
god I hope so

>>102557985
true but they're about to do a vtuber marketing push

>>102557955
I just realized larping as a vshojo staff member right now might unironically get me into trouble so I'll stop

>>102557965
https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Beri and Tori have both suggested there are others that haven't yet spoken publicly.

>Nyan makes more money debuffed than with VShojo
jesus

Nyan says she's making more money with the lower viewers she has now then when she was a 5 view with Vshojo

>>102558036
all 3 are on twitch too

>>102558036
They stream on twitch too
https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo

>>102557708
Heres your guy

>made more money under mythic

>Nyan is making more money now as an indie despite having less viewers than she did while she was in VShojo
Lmao just how bad were those contracts

>>102558015
I doubt that. Maybe Mouse after this is all wrapped up, but I don't know who else would want to join GeeX+.

>>102557885
She's probably weighing her options more than the others. Remember, she's not only quit Vshojo like the rest of them but she also has to figure out what to do regarding her stay in Japan. While it's been mentioned that her visa has fuck all to do with Vshojo, she still went there as an employee of the company only for said company to basically implode while she's there.

>>102558064
>>102558076
>>102558079
oh, nice. thanks. looking forward to seeing what they do, then.

>>102558015
While I think for some that could be useful I highly doubt anyone is looking to join anytime soon. I know a lot of people are memeing Mouse joining but it is very likely Mouse will never trust another agency ever again.

>>102557889
I still wouldn't put VShojo below Niji and Wactor lol.

>>102557889
9 people leaving in as many months isn't S tier quality. Management dumping billions of yen into gachashit slop pipe dreams isn't S tier quality. Skipping summer outfits for your talents again for the second year in a row isn't S tier quality.

>>102558090
They were actual slave labor. That isn't hyperbole.

>Mythic turned out to be amazing corpo that provides their tallents with clear paperwork and pay schedule
where are all the Mythic haters
didn't you vshojo dickriders had few screenshots you liked to spam instantly the moment somebody mentioned Silver

>>102557760
I assume she meant that he probably knew of their existence, but hadn't met them directly or even looked into them. Basically what >>102557837 saiod

>>102558090
Mouse will be a billionaire.

Tori said that she was in hiatus for her debut, which means they were soon. But instead she went through the stages of grief with yesterday being her acceptance lmfao

>>102558061
Kek

$500k embezzled from charity is enough to get the attention of the feds, they’re fucked

>>102558015
Nah geexplus is smart anon they don't act like savior they are a real company

>>102558134
lol

>>102557332
>Legal system is insane in America
Tangential, but this is why the Stop Killing Games movement is happening in Europe.
They took one look at consumer protections in the USA and instantly saw it was impossible to change anything for the better over there.

>>102558080
This guy ain't ever getting work again

bros this has been really cathartic... I feel like I've been lost and I've come home

>>102558005
Yeah Niji is just smart being evil
Keep their business afloat while doing horrendous shit

>>102558161
they're busy sucking mtd's tiny dick

>>102558172
>which means they were soon
definitely not soon, she even mentioned that she wanted to keep going (as Tori) til October at the latest before graduating

How they can sue VShojo without being doxxed? was anything filed or it just all talk so far?

>>102558074
Yep. Numberfags don't differ hordes of randos controlled by algo and dedicated comunity

Silver if you will see this my offer still stands
I will make you French Toast every day

>>102558161
I will not support Mythic because it is OTK
I will not support GamerSupps because Kirsche
Simple as
Gunrun running with the money changes nothing

>>102557591
Nah I seen the worst, if you old enough you should remembered there's an organization called Upd8 which harbor famous talents such as Kizuna Ai killed and brought vtubing to it dark ages before Hololive and Nijisanji revive the market.

>>102558167
Mouse will self found all Immuno deficiency research

>>102558214
Awful as this last month has been, I think it was really really great. If we were still riding the high pre-Geega and Zen leaving and this happened it would've been devastating, but the mood here was already super low with no new debuts in sight and Geega + Zen leaving and Mouse rrats

Also Henya live

>>102558250
>muh
>naziiiiiis

>>102558250
yass sister we need to stick up to these nazis

If Nyan is making a ton more money outside of vshojo despite just half-assing it and not having as many viewers, imagine how rich Mouse is gonna become as an indie

HENYA

>>102558080
what if gunrun is 100% innocent and this dude has been the evil guy all along

>>102558242
Silver if you will see this my offer still stands
I will fondle your boobs during sex

>>102558286
Henya DEAD

>>102558250
same tbdesu

>>102558236
Oh yeah thats probably the number 1 reason they are so pussy shit about it

>>102557591
Upd8 is Envy
Niji is Pride
Brave is Sloth
VShojo is now Greed.

>>102558318
There's no way he's 100% innocent, but given how highly literally everyone has spoken of him I'd like to believe he's not 100% to blame either lol

will we get a pink collab now that all of this has been aired out? things can never go back to how they once were but can things fueled by sowed discord by bad actors be mended

>>102558080
>QuickBooks
Is it normal for large companies to use something like this? I've only come across small businesses using it, companies I've worked with have had their own purpose built accounting software.

>>102558287
>>102558297
yes, nazis should be tortured and mutilated in the streets

shits fucked dayo

>>102558287
you get it

>>102558080
hang this guy

this wouldve never happened if nyan and vei were still single

It's 5 pm where the fuck is Henya? I need my closure.

>>102558287
>>102558297
>nazis are good actually!
Nah
Piss off, dramatourists

>>102558308
IF I HEAR TEARS IM GONNA BREAK SOMETHING

>>102558236
>A plaintiff may proceed anonymously if their private interests exceed the public's interest in an open court procedure, and the plaintiff would not be adversely prejudiced.

>>102558403
true

>>102558242
Silver if you see this, please fix the long neck of your 3D models porn you upload to your fansly/paetron.

I can't coom properly...

Froot's not even playing the game she's just gooning to the anime girls

>>102558236
if certain legal advice is to be believed they can if it is a criminal case, gov vs vshojo, and the members aren't strictly needed to be there. however if it is a civil case, talent vs vshojo, that is a different worrying story.

>True Talent Freedom is Indie - Nyanners
/lig/ won

>>102557591
Comparing shit is cringe and can minimize what either has done. They can both be bad

>>102558417
If Nazis are so bad how come their corpos are better run?

The least whimsical Henya stream title ever...

Bros....I dunno if I can do this. Henya is such an innocent, cheerful little creature. I dont know if I can handle her being sad.

>>102557614
>/vsj+/ = retards
and one retard is squatting here, seething his dick off since the first thread

>>102555246
>This is like a reverse debut
They're tubed.

pink gatita is good

>>102558426
Ok. Break something.

>>102558417
lol
lmao, even

It is time.
I kinda liked Tori, will probably put her in my rotation.

so mouse was forced to do her million sponsored streams to keep the company afloat.. I kneel

Kettle live

>>102558376
Nope. Work in IT and QuickBooks has pretty much only been used in small companies. Bigger ones use their own proprietary software...or excel.

>>102558015
Is it bad that I kinda hope all the Vshojo girls (and Kuro) still manage to stay together in some way?

Like even if it's just collabs, I hope to see them together again now that the NDAs are done.

I can't believe that henya fire bombed 5 gay clubs

>>102558455
it's so over

>>102558362
well this guy is definitely the first one being thrown under the bus, that's for sure

>>102558250
I get what you mean but come on man, we were supporting the blackest vantablack company there is lol have some awareness

>>102558455
No dayo at the end doomed

So Vei and Nyanners were the most punished?

okay miss nyanners, youre just repeating shit.
time for new content and lets see what hanya has to say.
add it to the compilations

Vei, become a full time streamer again. I want an excuse to come back and make veis

>>102558403
Yes but it's a good thing they weren't single, otherwise the girls would all still be under slave labor lol

Oh god I can't take it if henya breaks down

Lmao is it just me or is Nyanners avoiding mentioning Silver?

>>102558501
>he's there from the start of the stream
He may not be the strongest Hentai, but he's up there

HERE WE FUCKING GO

>>102558521
If she can't have Roomie-chan nobody can.

>>102558318
VShojo is not that big of a company, its impossible for this guy to steal so much money without the CEO noticing

It begins...

NOT DAIJOBU

oh god just hearing Henya's voice like this

>>102558562
Just you, schizo.

>>102558553
easy level 23 hypetrain in the 5 minute opening

oh god ... her voice

Vshojo rebuild can start with Sinder
Gun it's up to you now

WAIT WTFFFFF
HENYA IS NOT AN EN VTUBER?????????
IM OOUT

New top donators.

She is so nervous

>>102558521
I heard henya works for ICE

>>102556816
>5k
5 figures, so 10k+

Henya the genius of independent

How much were Henya's monthly donations compared to her salary?

>>102558553
Someone stab Gunrun in the balls

Mouse supporting her fellow gremlin

>>102558604
I think Bunny and Sinder should join Vshojo

>>102558562
2 years, all the proof in the world and you STILL hate her? damn Anon

>>102558622

>she crying
ohh fuck..

Kirsche raided Henya!

VSHOJO OWES HENYA TOO

MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

AND THERE IT IS

henya crying, the hunt begins lads, get the torches

HENYA GONE
AND VSHOJO OWES HER MONEY

THEY OWE HENYA TOO

Did Henya know about this before yesterday?

>VShojo owes Henya
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I FUCKING KNEW IT

>they didnt even pay the kettle
THE BACKPACK SELLER MUST DIE

Heavenly is seeing red i bet

GET GUNRUN

I'd like to announce that VShojo also owes me money as well

>she muted
Henya...

I'm killing myself dayo

I'm going to fucking cry, my poor kettle

>>102558666
Simply making an observation on how Nyan is throwing out love to Vei and all the girls, leaving, but doesn't really mention silver.

Also
>666 Checked

>Henya is also owed money

No shit, they owe EVERYONE in the org

Those motherfuckers stole from HENYA TOO!
BURN THEM!

Oh my lord

Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun Kill Gunrun

GUNRUN. ROPE. NOW

I owe vshojo $10

>>102558687
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
IT'S TIME

oh fuck its so over

LEMME AT 'EM, I WILL LEAVE GUNRUN A PILE OF QUIVERING PINK MUSH

>>102558762
Vei is chatting, Silver is lurking
Nyan might not even know Silver is in chat
Silver will not be making statements unless she feels like she has to like with Sinder

>>102558702
No surprise at this point, if they were ripping talents off as far back as the leavers.

Kill gunrun kill gunrun

After everything of today, i don't feel nothing... just anger. I feel betrayed.

zen jump in call RIGHT NOW and comfort henya

>>102558080
>directed crisis management during SVB collapse
the totality of the SVB collapse was that if you didnt withdraw your money by march 9th you had to wait until march 13th for the federal bank insurance to give you all of your money.

Who cares? Henya is literally a nazi symphatizer. She deserves to be scammed.

Henya gets a lot of support so I'm not worried about her, it's the Nova girls that I wonder if they'll be ok.

EVERY
SINGLE
TALENT
IS
OWNED
MONEY

EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
THIS IS THE WORST CASE OF THEFT IN VTUBING HISTORY

>>102558827
If by statements you mean on the situation, she posted about it on her twitter!

>>102555868
Yeah there's a systemic mis-education regarding money.
Maybe 1 in 5 Million people genuinely understand the difference between money available and money you can spend.
Motherfucking takeout is a bottomless hole for example.
Anyway what is Mint owed for?

Henya's merches are very popular, but Vshojo doesn't give her a penny of profit

too obvious tourist

>>102558508
No large firm uses excel lol, thats just what people export out of shit like netsuite or SAP, choice of software depends heavily on if there are compliance standards, I don’t know anything about entertainment/eshit but I doubt they vshojo has very complicated financials

not like this bros...

Not real hype on how everyone is making this shit about Mouse's charity instead of the actual situation.

At this point, I firmly believe there was never any money moving in this company at all.

>HAVEN'T EVEN SHIPPED ALL HER MERCH
WHAT THE FUCK

Leave your apologies below

>Vshojo haven't shipped anni merch back in May

SHE'S GOING FULL MATA
GET HIS ASS

Bait used to be believable

Skin these fuckers

Merch hasn't been shipped back in may MAY

>Henya didn't receive her own anniversary merch

>>102558936
he won....

Bros are we really going to get a stream at like 1am where Hime goes live to say Vshojo owes her money as well? Really?

NOOOOOOOOOOOO
I CANT STAND THE KETTLE CRYING
IM NOT STRONG ENOUGH

>>102558913
>No large firm uses excel lol
I know a fortune 500 cc company that does

>>102558892
this, I'm genuinely concerned

VSHOJO OWNS ME SEX

>>102558970
Doesn't surprise me. I remember Nyan didn't get her Goodsmile shit and had to buy it on Amazon later.

I don't know if this was the good I saw.

>>102558986
Wouldn't be surprisingly. Now more than ever the talents need to stand together on this.

>>102558893
Every single talent AND vtubers who weren't even in Vshojo.

>back in may
rookie delay.

>>102558858
she's not even watching bro

>Henya just found out 5 minutes ago that some of her 2nd anniversary merch still hasn't shipped
>She, her manager, and her attorney are working on it
Thankful that at least the JP side's managers seem to be good eggs too. Though I think she also has the same manager as Kson? And in that case I'd HOPE she has a good manager lol.

Anyway new thread
>>102558999
>>102558999
>>102558999

>>102558986
>Vshojo was supposed to pay me?

it's wild that EVERY rrat about them leaving was a lie propagated by the fucking staff themselves

>>102558858
kys now

Is anyone actually surprised that Henya is owed money too? For Christ sake (you) are probably owed money at this point.

Oh, thank fucking God she's not leaving. I was legit worried that after another terrible experience, Henya might just not want to continue streaming.
My chest was legit right when I was waiting for her to conclude her sentence.
I hate that she's this turn up, but relieved that our genius will still be around. The the one person I was most worried about.
He'll yes! Hentai's forever!

>>102559057
>EVERY
Well...

>>102559031
>she's

>>102558913
Anon, trust me on this: the horrors I have seen in the accounting departments is very much real. Gigantic excel sheets dating back years that refuse to load, troubleshooting issues with excel calculations on major accounts. The one I work for isn't a small company either, they handle billions of dollars yearly.

>>102559057
I may have posted lies on the internet

>>102558863
If this is all ties back to SVB im gonna laugh my ass off, imagine if they were the main lender

>>102557628

All the Vshojo money went into Gunrun's supercars and private estate in South America.

>>102558752
I can't prove that Vshojo owes me money, but statistically it must be true.

>>102558936
Apologize for what?
That man has always been great at finding talent. Even if magnet was underaged she's also great.

TOTAL GUNRUN DEATH

>>102559155
I would not be surprised if the cause of everything was that they were part of the bank run that tried to take a fraction of their money and close their account on march 10th or 11th, and then lost access to FDIC because they had willingly closed their own account.

>>102558666
he's been seething since the first thread, if you didnt notice

>>102559157
Do you have the full version of this?

>>102558993
How do you even manage payroll at that scale, name them so I never work there

Comfy Subnautica stream days are over ;-;

>>102559386
mastercard

>>102558622
oh shit I think I know potato, he has a weird amount of money but idk if he oils for anyone... maybe kirsche?

Naked dogeza is not enough, we need his skin stretched across a wall

>>102559343
https://files.catbox.moe/y1ckwo.mp4

>>102556670
Hahahahaahhaahaha thank vshojo for taking this faggot out of niji