Higher Ups Be Like Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/punishedkkanon/status/1922889447864959289

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102555088

dont cry anon
it will be over soon

Zen watching henya?

Who's going to be alright, who's fucked (in a non sexual way?) and who's fucked (in a sexual way?)

Henya...

idk why but henya crying gets me so mad

>>102559070
Everyone's going to be alright except for maybe Nova who there's still questions about, but Loutlot seems to be going out of his way to do what he can to make sure they'll be okay.

How many posts here were made by VShojo staff?

unfathomable levels of financial rape

GUNRUN
WHERE IS THE MONEY GUNRUN

I am once again requesting you to add Beri, Pia and Tori to the OP

it's kinda funny that Henya's tone sounds drastically sadder when speaking in japanese compared to english
must be an ESLism

>>102559068

>>102559070
>and who's fucked (in a sexual way?)
my ass, by Froot's cock

>>102559068
Connor and Mouse after that peak stream now really close with her huh?

>>102559070
Mel, not Mel

>>102559070
I think everyone's gonna be alright (although probably won't get the money they're owed), nova might get fucked (in a non sexual way) and every single one of them will be fucked (in a sexual way, by me)

How you holding up VStacies?
On a scale of 1 to 10 how over is it?

thinking about smooching cutie anons...

I want fucking names. It can't be only Gunrun.
I want to know who was involved in this shit and I want them sued to death. Not a single one of these rats should be able to slip away so they can do this shit again.

>>102553830
Her numbers went down when she settled with Aethel, because Vtubers live off parasocial people who donate. Same as Vei, there's no recovering from that.

Silver tried to get out of the whole "I'm a parasocial streamer who enable parasocial viewers" and got a drought in numbers and revenue so hard that she instead turned ship and doubled down on all that to recover, and she did, further proving the point.

Anyway, Nyan and Vei don't need more numbers, they stream to keep busy and because they actually like streaming. Nyan was smart enough to invest most of her earnings to live a good life and Vei has Soda who's earning a shitton of money for them both.

>>102559147
>mint made vshojo left

>>102559163
100000

How much are (you) owed by gunrun?

>>102559163
We want the fatrun head
We will stick to our talents.

I'm starting a class action lawsuit against VShojo for not paying me for all the shit talking I've done about Vei here.

>>102559163
I'll keep watching the vtubers I've always watched, as usual. Vshojo is absolutely fucking dead though.

nyanners folded mating press womb flooding breeding impregnation

>>102559147
I've got an exciting new business venture for up and coming vtubers

>>102559136
Monke and Henya have been casually friendly for a while now even if they didn't interact much and the few collabs they were in together went well. Also he's kind of a saviorfag so I imagine he feels the need to help her if she needs it.

>>102559070
>Who's going to be alright?
Vtubers
>Who's fucked (in a non sexual way?)
Gunrun
>Who's fucked (in a sexual way?)
Vtubers & Gunrun

>>102559205
about three fiddy

poor henya

Gunrun promised me a date with Geega if I invested $410,000 in his company.

>>102559174
Nyan also just said she's making immensely more money with Mythic than she ever did with Vshojo, so she probably doesn't care about her CCV.

Is Mata the only one left to spill the tea?

Reminder that henya is a nazi lol

>>102559147
lmao no they fucking weren't paid

>>102559231
>Zen company
Might work out
>Vei company
Dead in 5 minutes
>Zen Vei company
Car crash waiting to happen and I eagerly await seeing it unfold

>>102559147
kek at a few of those clusters

>>102559136
Mouse was always close to her during New Years, her first stream back Mouse was the first collab or their gremlin minecraft adventures, where mouse would play with her for 10s of hours while Mouse did not even stream.

>>102559239
he didn't save silver but she wanted to fuck him.

>>102559260
She's not that cheap

What if Vshojo posts a statement that says "everyone is lying".

>>102559285
fuck off with this false flag bullshit we know you're trying to start shit flying about troons and it isn't going to work

I'm numb at this point I just hope Mel isn't evil

Anyway

TOTAL GUNRUN DEATH

now we'll never get Unity again and see fun interactions because everyone is going to drift apart even worse

Really short stream, obvious why
Find it funny that Froot said, fuck it wanna game drunk compared to everyone else kek

Henya ending and saying next time we see her she'll be Henya independent. The former VShojos better adopt her so she still has a "group" around her even if it's unofficial

>>102559260
Would be interested in company stocks?

I wonder if Limp Bizkit knows Vtubers use their songs to vent about black companies

>>102559356
Why the fuck would you think Mel had anything to do with this?

Who hasn't trauma dumped yet?

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>>102559163
Henya cried. Ignacio will be found beheaded and raped.

based pete

A

>>102559367
froot has probably been grieving the situation for a while now

>>102559385
gun

>>102559350
If VShojo drops docs proving that everyone is lying and this is some big concerted effort to take them down for some reason, I'll fucking laugh my ass off.

>>102559362
Alternatively, maybe VShojo was the true barrier to unity after all and we're about to enter into a xvsj+ golden age of unity

All the money turned into Gunrun’s private mansion and supercars in South America

>>102559273
She must be pissed. She brought in Mint/Michi/Kuro thinking they be all okay only to get scammed and her getting terminated.

fuck i missed all of henya what did she saaaaaay

>>102559403
Pete always based

>>102559399
Who wants to rape a fat flip?

>>102559367
she had like months to detox and be away from all the bullshit associated with vtubing and Vshojo, the others have been in the thick of it for months on the other hand

>>102559374
I want...5 backpacks.

>Henry crying.
Hearing this, I have realized that I would use violence to protect this woman if given the opportunity.

>>102559432
>shit's fucked dayo

>>102559133
>>102559136
Yeah, they really seem to be pretty tight after that.
My prediction is that Mouse and Henya will wind up at Geex+. Possibly Kuro and Michi as well. Geega, Zen, haruka will probably go with Mythic. Not sure about the rest. Hime's Grandma is in staff at Geex+, so she'll probably get in due to nepotism.

>>102559432
she's leaving vshojo, continuing as an independent vtuber. vshojo owes her money and anniversary merch shipments.

tar and feather gunrun
draw and quarter gunrun
put gunrun in front of a firing squad
flay gunrun alive
saw gunrun in half (verticle)
bury gunrun alive
burn gunrun at the stake

>>102559385
Trauma? Mel, Mouse.
Anger? Vei, Mata
Depressed? Haruka, Nova
Unknown: Silver
Everyone else has said something

>>102559432
She's leaving Vshojo but everything else will be the same. Merch from May hasn't shipped so she's working on sorting that mess out.

>>102559410
the only thing she's grieving is that she couldn't string katie along longer for more girlcock.

>>102559430
I think that genuinely, it could have been the Mint stuff that triggered her to go after VShojo and get fired in the process.

lol zen
https://x.com/zentreya/status/1947812859792031873

Gunrun is responsible for giving us the shortest fucking Henya stream ever

>>102559285
based henya, sucks to be you faggot

>>102559436
by horses

>>102559357
Total Corpo Death

>>102559464
>>102559474
ok basically what i figured
but i need that sweet sweet drama just inject that shit straight into my veins i'm not going to be able to sleep at all

>no froot raid
they HATE eachother

>>102559417
At this point this would be the funniest outcome.
Everyone volunteered to join a massive conspiracy to takedown Vshojo.

>>102559271
Yeah not surprised, she probably get a much larger portion of her earnings in Mythic + she actually get the sponsor money instead of not seeing any of it, even with way lower CCV the core audience is what makes most of the revenue anyway.

I've not been active on streams or Twitter today. Can someone give me the basic rundown of how streams and such went?

>>102559467
While possible I'm not convinced any of them really want to join something again. Mouse in particular has gotten a whole team to handle things for her now.

>Henya ends
>Go back to Nyan's stream
>She's watching music videos now
lmao

>>102559502
The legendary Mr. Hands 2...

Gunrun is clearly just some pushover that got way over his head. He means well. We should forgive him.

>>102559239
He might also be the one who introduced her to atrioc to VA on the Get To work DLC

>>102555654
>>102555831
https://x.com/feebeechanchibi/status/1947716252434321476
possibly this one

>>102559506
True, also total corpo death

>>102559436
It's not about the pleasure. It's about it needing to be done.

>>102559522
>sending kirsche raiders on anyone
no thanks

>>102559432
She was fighting back tears the entire time.
Vshojo stole a lot of money from her, some stuff she even just found out five minutes before she streamed.

>>102559132
It takes active brainpower to speak in a language you're not fluent in and if you're distracted by that you aren't crying so much. Switch to a language you are fluent in and that ram can be re-devoted to sadness.

>>102559273
After all this new info I'm dying to know what led to her firing. I'm sure it was some real bullshit.

>>102559452
Making Henya cry should be illegal

Tori VShojo's model, well new model is going to be a monster girl. So yeah, a Cluseller Monster Girl.

>>102559501
Yikeserino! Henyachuds, this is your guy? Henya deserves to be scammed with fans like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfUo2mPYQ2E&pp=ygUTcmVzaXN0IGFuZCBkaXNvcmRlcg%3D%3D
Thread theme

>>102559418
Michi will move into Numi's group
Mouse, Ari, and Henya will do their thing
Zen might slip back in to occasionally Zennap, but rarely
Kuro will hang with his boys

Unity is dead
it's over

Which girls are going to stay in contact?
Which girls are going to drift apart?

Glad that she's not totally distraught but now have the headache of all those unfulfilled merch. Fuck this vshitshow of a company

>>102559599

>>102559593
Oh it is. It's just not enforced

>>102559586
>made beribug cry
>made henya cry
i'm punching my mattress tonight

>>102559660
kek

>>102559675
Made Mint cry too.

>>102559623
There was no unity to begin with

>>102559698
kek

>>102559205
He owes me sex with Peke.

Just got home from work, catching up and holy fuck
If I see a single nova cry specially Hotaru i'm gonna lose my shit

>>102559675
im still broken by beris stream

Making womanchildren cry is based, actually

I hope Mouse sets up a new Minecraft server and henya can play loanshark again

>>102559675
Sorry, who is beribug?

>>102559645
Mouse will either remain in contact with everyone who was ever involved with VShojo or she'll only ever do collabs with Connor from now on
No in between

So what was OtoshiGami take on drama?

What a year, huh?

>>102559781
Indie, and was going to be one of the new members

Has anyone elaborated on what "Hasn't been paid" means? I can see sponsorship and merch revenue not being shared, but they must have been getting their Twitch revenue.

>>102559781
Passed the auditions I think.

Will I still get the Kuro birthday merch or should I forget about it?

Honestly at this point I am more confused at Vshojo rather than hateful. Absolutely 0 communication since this has occurred. I am hoping that it was a case of severely poor management of the company rather than anything malicious.

>>102559812
It's merch, event fees and sponsors I would imagine.

If Nagi cry, Gunrun needs to be slaughtered

>>102559781
she was going to be one of the next vshojo members along with tori and pia. she had her contracts signed and everything and was just waiting to debut.

>>102559825
Wait for him to mention it or consider it lost

was henya really crying?
oh well, thankfully she has a bf to cuddle with tonight like nyan and vei

Vei won

>>102559812
Yeah, apart from Mouse, everyone got their Twich/Youtube income directly. It's definitely merch/sponsorship money.

i think its pretty safe to add vshojo to the list

>>102559781
https://x.com/beribug_
one of the would-be debutees
was the first one to do a stream today, she was pretty much ugly crying all the way through

>>102559775
Clever placement.

>>102559812
its the merch/sponsorship money.

>>102559812
Not being paid doesn't mean they were making zero money. VShojo never had any input on their stream income so it was just everything else.
>>102559825
Maybe look around his Discord someone may have already asked. I'd assume if the merch was already made then it should still be on the way but who knows

>>102559864
>bf
At least get the narrative right you catalog fag. She has a girlfriend.

>>102559864
She 100% got broken up with earlier this year when she went missing

>>102559734
;_;

Gonna try and sleep, if I wake up to nagi/hestia or hotaru crying clips...

>>102559168

>>102559789
Just wait for the October Surprise. It's gonna be a real gas.

>>102559864
Yeah, me

>>102559832
It's about to file for bankruptcy and is just trying to get rid of anything incriminating before it does. Don't think it cares about PR at this point.

>>102559864
>thankfully she has a bf to cuddle with tonight like
Yeah, me

>>102559904
Rumi-chan....

part of henyas stream for DMCA'd lol

>>102559832
It certainly reminds one of ye average VC startup that goes down in flames after nobody knowing wtf was happening with money and where

>>102559872
who

>>102559832
Every former talent is owed large sums of money. Scores of contracted art/music people are owed money. Vshojo ran out of money. Bankrupt.

>>102559864
Yeah, me. I get sloppy crying blowjobs tonight boys! DAYO!

I didn't even think of that but Froot is implying that she will likely be stuck for longer than the others. Considering she has been completely blindsided by this she has to get legal moving which takes time.

SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE THE NOVAS

>>102559604
fuck off you fat phasenig hating on henya

>>102559882
Can we include them in the next bake already? Having them in the OP will help things a bit. Put them in a category after Zen if you need to

>>102559781
A bug.

Froot ended... this time I'm really gonna do it

>her bf
>only 5k

>>102559864
im in japan and if i ever meet someone with that voice, id totally sex them.
that woman indeed has a bf

>>102559832
Gunrun is living up to his username and running for the hills to avoid the guns.

>>102559961
yeah, she's most likely gonna discover a lot more Vshojo fuckery on her end as well

>>102559467
Why would Kadokawa want to buy the ashes of vshojo, I doubt Meilyne could convince management

Fucking Nyan

>>102559991
but her bf bf gave 5k as well

>>102559432
Same as everyone else. She didnt get paid.

>>102559812
Merch and events. Part of the reason why they could tolerate not being paid for so long, because that's hardly their main source of income.

>>102559937
Liar

>>102559972
I haven't been a regular here in a while but I think that wouldn't accomplish anything other than bloating the OP even more
In Beri's case she's açsp actually regularly talked about in lig

>>102559875
>>102559900
connor san going to give her a bit of colonization creampie

>>102559991
>Only 5k
You know, plus several million.

Froot's off to get milk again :(

>>102559812
Yes, for most it is merch or sponsors dating back to 2024. For anyone that had their Twitch or Youtube getting paid through Vshojo then that is effected. Not sure if anyone but Mouse had Twitch going though Vshojo. She took control at some point after subathon though.

>>102559991
lucky he even donated most of the time he doesnt bother

>>102560019
they got ari for one......a fat ugly white reject.

>>102560085
*get milked

has nimi's fiance donated?

>>102560085
i wish i could smooth talk my way into the sort of milk she's after.

Kson posting a lot on Twitter. Coincidentally right after Henya ended

honestly the evil goes way deeper than even i was expecting
i thought maybe it was just negligence or greed, but the manipulation and threats are legitimately evil calculated behavior

>>102560023
>Forgot to add the pic.
Once again...
Fucking Nyan

>>102560097
Vei said it dated back to 2021

What stream are we watching?

>>102559937
5 mins were muted. Im getting a live recording up incase something is missing

>>102559832
Malice and incompetence are coterminous more often than not.
Most horrendously mismanaged banana republics usually started with great intentions. It's incredibly easy to lose perspective.

>>102560119
yeah, with my mouth

was henya's stream kinda weird?
was it pre recorded ?

>>102559529
it's all fucked mate

NO WAY LMAO

>>102559991
how fucking rich is shylily
that bitch had me in tier 3 for like 4 yrs now

>>102560154
Yeah Nyanners was talking about Cookie Run Kingdom not being paid out and that was October 2021

That Bank bankruptcy incident back then really fucked Vshojo huh?

>>102560156
I'm all tuckered out with the vshojo stuff. I'm watching Grimmi now.

>>102560172
she said she was following a script she wrote

no streams org

>>102560187
a little late anon but we think someone is using her name lol

>>102560149
Aethel is never getting that rotting jaw fixed.

>>102560206
The silicon valley one?

>>102560223
no org streams

GunRun needed the money for a good cause.
He needed it to do a Wolf of Wall Street and fuck his backpack on a bed covered in cash.

>>102560187
Very funny lineup given the past year

>>102559896
Thanks, I'll try that. It was a pre-order set to be shipped September, so I'm not sure if all the merch was already made. I just know he got the posters and signed them.

>>102560187
thats almost definitely fake but still kind of funny

>>102559147
Has potential

>>102560223
no org org

>>102560223
Nyan is-wait she's ending.

>>102560187
forgot the sinder lore, any masters?

>>102560223
PiaPi stream soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0gS3Ylh8Mw

>>102560221
yea, but she was looking around alot.
her movements were a little weird.
maybe she just had tracking fixed to her mouse or something and audio to her mouth but it just seems off.

>>102560223
No streamers org

>>102560154
I am referring to as of now for current members. There was a history of ups and downs of payments being made promptly and delayed that was referenced that led them on.

just think about all the nyan mouse streams that didnt happen because vshojo told the girls that left they were never allowed to talk to them again

What are the chances that gunrun fucked up so much that they will go after him or other owners personally for the money?

Who knew Unity for the general would come like this

>>102560247
Yeah that one I think?

>>102560302
Talking behind people's backs and colluding with Nano to fuck over other people
Nano got out unscathed because she has talents people still want to use

>>102560223
Nyan live
Tori live
https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane

and PiaPi soon.

>>102560349
What else could possibly happen?

its weird that the vei, silver haters turned out to be vshojo staff

>>102560350
Nothing unites the masses like a villain.

>>102559991
kek, doki upped her dono to top mint

>>102560350
anon its just like the real world
A country and nations comes together when they all have a common enemy

>>102560349
>You've activated my trap card!

>>102560120
ya inside nimi trying to knock her up

>>102560345
I wish it all fell apart then instead of now

>>102560382
They're still here, astroturfing and damage controlling

>>102560315
She's also on twitch if you have a preference

>>102559475
>>102560005
We still have Michi's powers. Would you prefer him randomly having prostate cancer or accidentally slipping off the cliff on bunch of machetes?

>>102560345
>vshojo told the girls that left they were never allowed to talk to them again
Nyan literally showed up on Mouse's last subathon.
She also proved she hadn't been keeping up with Mouse in the slightest since she left.

>>102560376
I think typically it can be hard because corporations are supposed to shield owners from liability?

>>102560382
Nah i always liked Vei
and for Silver she was always meh for me
I never liked her fake GFE thing with the constant "I love you" to chat

>>102560345
>were never allowed to talk to them again
nyan appeared in mutiple mouse streams anon

>>102560349
unless he criminally embezzled it, they legally won't get shit from him

>>102560382
mtd that faggot was one of the main culprits but now he acts innocent

>>102560350
Hey total Gunrun death ain't something controversial.

>>102560490
It would be really interesting to know where the money was going.

I just keep thinking about something I saw someone say of in one of the threads yesterday (I think)... This really is Machinima all over again, isn't it?

>>102560349
0% because no one knows anything
>>102560490
He took money but they have no proof or clue where he is

>>102560532
believe it or not, backpacks

>>102560484
WHO THE FUCK IS THAT?

>>102560382
Iunno, I found the Silverposter annoying independently

>>102560532
kek what if he was getting mani-pedis and massages and frequenting the salon all the time

Call me a saviorfag, but I'm really impressed to see the chicks they picked, they are honestly pretty good. I'm fucking amazed that Tori literally debuted last year, she yaps her soul out better than streamers that have years behind them.
>>102560533
Yeah lol
That was me.

>>102560382
vei and nyan have always had the most insane antis, even while in vsj. silver only had the metaposting retards, it's really hard to hate her, she's very uncontroversial.

>>102560556
Because it's still under NDA? And/or they told her it was AntHime?

>>102560574
Tankie

Nice moment
>>102560556
kys simon

>>102560532
Plug financial holes while the entire ship had too many holes for it to ever be fixed.

>>102560556
because her lawyer told her to, you retard

>>102560556
snake whore

>>102560533
I've said it a couple times
One big difference, though, is that they're able to freely leave and keep their shit and the company isn't being almost cartoonishly evil to them

>>102559911
anon's soft lips...

I really want to see geega in yoga pants

>>102560556
beautiful princess disease can make you do some wild stuff.

>>102560556
These subhumans are genuinely obsessed, holy hell

Twitch DMCA muted the first 5 mins of henyas vod. Idk if its just intro music missing but heres a live recording just in case: https://gofile.io/d/mCPInG

>>102560556
fuck off proctor to your doxx site
also hows that Brave rrat coming with your trusted sources kek

.... Mouse shouldn't have gone to the white house.

>>102560489
Appearing in literally 0 streams would have been very suspicious tbf

>>102560350
I'd take minecraft server, but fuck it, we roll with it

>>102560556
Don't these faggots ever get tired? Even when there's actual, tangible heinous shit to talk about, they still can't let go.

>>102560616
i don't want to defend that guy but froot said on stream that she did not have a lawyer.

I just hope after its all settle the girls dont forget about the novas

>>102560649
It was just normal waiting screen music.
I'm guessing Henya didn't split the audio track properly. Understandable that she has much more important shit on her mind.

>>102560489
She was really tense every time she was. I don't think they're close anymore, but I think the situation contributed to that majorly.

>>102560651
honestly? the brave rrat looks more likely now, all the talents left and gunrun needs emergency funds

>>102560687
Cheating's pretty heinous too bruh

>>102560687
Culture war subhumans don't care about stuff like this or people being hurt, everything is just a tool to use to push their gay agenda

>>102560556
I hope this poster, who definitely isn't Proctologist Fagarov, kills himself.
>>102560611
Simon is banned from TVA, kek.
Probably isn't him.

Will Mouse raid Nyan? Hope?

>>102560437
>if it fell apart back then, we would never have Henya or Michi back
Fate sucks, man

>>102560749
>tangible

>>102560701
She also said that because of it she didn't want to say anything. Maybe she wised up herself or someone advised her to delete it.

>>102560744
Nigga nobody's buying VShojo lol. If everyone had just dipped at once then maybe the brand would still be worth something, but everyone dipped BECAUSE the brand has been poisoned now.

>>102560649
I was half expecting to hear nice boat.

>>102560701
someone with a vague understanding of the law told her to delete it

What a fucking embarrassment. Not paying your workers is bottom of the barrel shit when it comes to fraud. I'm shocked this went on for so long.

>>102560749
I would get it if you know the personally, but no if you don't know them. Simping for a guy and taking his accusations is retarded.

Pink Cat coughed 37 times during stream. She is dying

>>102560860
right, or she used her brain, the point is, she does not have a lawyer.

nijisanji is legit better now

>>102560838
I'll buy it.
My offer for a tenner and a can of Spam for the IP still stands, Ignacio. Hit me up.

>>102560556
I look forward to you and your parents being made homeless, Proctor. The day can't come soon enough - I hope they die in the cold.

>>102560744
Not even Brave is going to want Vshojo at this point. There's no talents left dude, they all quit. This is an immediate blacklist brand for everyone.

>>102560749

I’m wanna bring this up at work tomorrow and see how people react to it

Nyan mentioned Michi

>>102560907
well yeah, vshojo can't do anything for anyone anymore

>>102560907
>2% and bullying to the point of attempted suicide is better
Yeah no, fuck off.

i just checked my bank account, gunrun stole all my fucking money

>>102560956
She has been mentioning her

>>102560556
>>102560687
>>102560749
Baffling to me that when even the owner of KF sides with her there are still some subhumans going after her.

>>102559645
Haruka and Zen will most likely keep in touch, at leastif Haruka doesn't graduate after this, that is

>>102560969
dont' forget sexual harassments

>>102560969
2% is still higher than 0%

>>102560744
Even if all the talent stayed who is baying a company that deep into the negative
also when the talent own the IP and they can dip any time

>>102560979
Me too
I had 60k saved up

>>102561006
null is a pedofaggot though

>>102560928
seems more likely froot gets cornered eventually to the point that she hangs herself as one last act of making herself a victim. tends to happen with people like her. i'd rather she just never come online again than die, though, for the record. she's still a human.

>>102560979
why are the past five posts with this phase image about vshojo

Are you telling me that we could have had this cute bug?

>>102561027
They still got their money from twitch, dipshit.

>>102560720
Iunno, how much did they hang out with Henya and Kson in the first place? Much as I feel for the Nova girls, there's not much the EN girls can do. Let's be realistic, the mainstream EN audience doesn't watch Japanese only indie streamers without getting drawn there.

>>102560907
Now this 0% and funny le talent freedom came out, Vshojo has nothing that's better than Niji

>>102561084
you could hold hands and hug at the same time

>>102561065
Anon this thread has averaged 10ppm for the last 5 hours

Holy fuck she signed 7 months ago

>>102560556
go, my boy, don't stop here, keep pushing

>Nyan wanted to raid Henya
EXVSJ LOVE

Even though it's just a formality at this point, Haruka is the last remaining member of VshojoEN.
It's a fucking crazy world when even fucking Hime has the industriousness in her to go "Yeah I'm out too". I seriously thought she'd be the last out the door.

>>102561059
fuck you are cringe as hell. like genuinely what the fuck is wrong with you

Now the only thing left is to wait for the fate of the NOVA girls

So guys about what Zen said

>There's a subject I would love to touch on as well, but I just have to wait until the time is right, that I was so pissed about. All I can say for that matter is: GFUEL. That's all I can say. Oh man, that is, oh man... When the day, when the time come, when the fucking time comes, man. Again, legally, I can't say anything. Just know that I am careful. All I can say is, you know, I have been extremely fucking pissed for the past few months. I have been extremely upset with how things were handled behind the scene.

Wonder how many rrats about beef between the girls was just nonsense.

>>102560777
Recently watched Michi's early vods from first days where she was admitting how she didn't see the problem of working at asian sweatshop companies. They sound different today

Tori met Maiko, passing by, not much lol

Nyan was going to raid Henya.

>Froot stuff returns
Reminder that the ERP happened while her and her abusive ex were broken up and that CINNA was found to be a Phasefag and outed as a psycho stalker by his own ex. Brother was malding that Froot broke it off with him instead of letting him actually smash IRL and has been turbo obsessed ever since.

the situation continues to be crazy

>>102561027
Did Niji give any merch cut?

>>102561084
I was going to say we were THIS close to a new golden age with a bunch of new, great talent, but not even that would have undone years of fuckery.

>>102561027
Actually it was negative, they were left in debt from Niji and also never paid for merch sales from after they left. Also, afraid of an NDA. They were even double taxed because Niji withheld money for taxes from their payments while having to also pay taxes on the payout.

>>102561059
>i'd rather she just never come online again than die, though
You first, shitlord.

>>102561147
some stuff, but i only talk about her when you cunts bring her up. so it seems more like its your problem than mine.

>raiding tricky over tori
what a shame...

>>102561059
you subhumans have been trying to cancel her over retarded rrat for half a decade now, you're not doing shit to anyone
now do the world a favor and kill yourself

>>102561059
Why would she do that? She's not broke living with her parents and about to be evicted like you. I'm sure you've thought about putting a noose around your neck many a time.

>>102560350
I give it 1 week

>>102561221
2bf she doesn't know anything about that.

>>102561219
kill yourself vshojo intern

>>102559205
SEX WITH THE TALENTS INCLUDING KURO

>0%
>0%
>0%

>>102561051
Proctor is an actual pedophile who raped a 13 year old though.

>>102560907
No, but the fact that the comparison can even begin to be made is damning enough

>>102560749
that shit got disproven, so no

>>102561163
I am interested but my oshi said not to speculate, so I won't

Open twitter! Gunrun HIT THE PENTAGON! HE HIT THE PENTAGON MAN!

>>102561163
I mean is not that hard to guess what happened
Vshojo took the Gfuel deal for the money bag
It forced everyone to drop whatever drink sponsor they had
They probably did this without consulting the girls and told them they are gonna get a better cut for whatever they had before

>>102559163
Company? 10. Super over. Talent? 2. Hurting, but will make it out better than before.

>>102561179
anyone who actually read her document realizes that, but that involves reading and also admitting they were wrong, dramafags will never do either of those

>>102561299
>cheater said she didn't cheat, see it's disproven bruh

>>102561369
Brother is posting about shit that literally never happened lol.

Anyway what did Kson mean by this.

>>102561163
It's not that hard, after the Subathon, Mouse caught a lot of attention. This attention brought GFuel. VShojo was insanely fucking greedy and took the deal without much request of the talents. Probably tried to pull the strings of everyone by saying it benefited people that don't have current deals.

I see the phasefags are trying to come up with some canned epic meme phrases, but it's simply fucking dead.
There are no "vshojofags" anymore. Nobody is going to reply to your ebin bait.

>>102561394
fuck orgs lol

>>102561400
they were probably in a bad financial state at that point and took the deal out of desperation. still wrong of course

Why are phaseniggers like this?

>>102561394
Couldn't be holo because she's ex holo
So probably beggars from either phase or niji.

>>102561225
the best part of all of this is i actually have no idea who you're even talking about. i just jump on the train whenever she comes up during my visits because its fun and shes a shitty person. so that guy gets all the flak for the dumb shit i say.

>>102561400
What's interesting is most recently Mouse went out of her way to thank Gfuel for opportunities at AX.

okay, vshojofag.

>>102561318
Why do you lie?

>you can buy the vshojo company for 100$
would u?

>>102561369
kill yourself

>>102561369
her ex actually cheated on his first wife, yet you believe his retarded accusation without any evidence no problem

>>102561477
Why wouldn't it be Holo if that's the company she has experience with and what her previous tweet was clearly about.

>>102561424
You have to understand that people who follow other corpotubers oshi the company.

>>102561394
Holo and Niji are shit, but no one wants to fuck with other people's jobs when it isn't their shit anymore.

>vshojofag
I see the vshojofag is selfposting

Remember to unfollow and unsub to VShojo on Twitch and YouTube

>>102561369
It's he-said-she-said bullshit. If you care to take a side, then the one with more receipts seems more reasonable

>>102561504
Yeah, the brand has some value.

>>102561504
Yes.

>>102561424
Anon what are you talking about

>>102561492
Is obvious some companies are paying AX for a spot rather than the reverse

>>102561478
kill yourself

after all that's gone on, the normal spergs are a bit boring now

>>102561492
I mean GFUEL business side, gave them a great offer. But obviously with people like Zen, you just can't tell people "talent fist!" and then pull that shit.

>>102561394
corpos bad

>>102561553
True. Thanks.

pia's online
https://twitch.tv/PiaPiUFO

who the fuck is lonewolf7701?

Of all the shit that Gunrun needs to answer for, making the kettle cry is the single most unforgivable.

>>102561424
Say what you will of the others, but any alleged Phase fan who doesn't love Henya at least, isn't a real Phase fan.

>>102561515
Because then she would have worded it as "company is great NOW" to reference that she knows what she's talking about on account of having lived the experience.

>>102561553
I don't sub to companies on twitch. Subscribing on YouTube costs me $0. The only money they got out of me was Candy Pop, and I promptly un-membered and leaked the concert.

Pia live
https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0gS3Ylh8Mw

vshojo is evil

>>102561504
I would. I'd also offer it to whichever talent they fucked over for free.

no
i will now tier 3 for vshojo

>>102561568
and said receipts pretty much nullified the only tangible counter-evidence (Cinna dms)

>>102561572
When it eventually will get sued over stolen money would it add up to that money so you'll have to pay it?

>>102561662
kek she knows her community is dramafags

>>102561673
Congratulations, you're the new CEO.

tick tock mowtendoo

I can't believe that gunrun forced the jp talents to pleasure old japenese business men for money

>>102561580
nah, my animals need me. don't worry, i'll be gone again for a while once this blows over.

>>102561117
so many possiblities
https://x.com/seduaweynn/status/1811147034461884916
https://x.com/seduaweynn/status/1892892346481857014

>>102561643
I wasn't subbed either, still making the numbers go down means they aren't being given a shovel unless it's to dig a 6ft trench.

Thinking about opening up a lemonade stand to get enough money to keep Vshojo afloat.

>>102561592
>>102561320
The fact that it pissed Zen off so much I really doubt it was merely a bad deal financially.

>>102560907
nah, it sucked but at least the girls are gonna keep their IP and continue streaming in a seamless manner

>>102561655
who is pia and how is she related to the happening?

>>102561478
this is some advanced phasefaggotry, damn

pia live to talk about vshojo

>>102561814
she was gonna debut in a cancelled gen

>>102561814
She was supposed to be part of the new gen.

>>102561814
Future VShojo who wasn't.

>>102561814
She was one of the auditioners who passed

>>102561723
Gunrun probably doesn't even know his company had Japanese vtubers since apparently no one bothered to tell him about the new girls who signed contracts seven months ago.

>>102561814
One of 3 known would-have-been VShojo's
Tori and Beri are included. There's others too, but haven't come foward to say they were in.

>>102561577
I could see "0%" trying to become a thing.

>>102561861
She passed? I'm sorry to hear that.

>>102561863
I highly doubt it, this would be peak nigger CEO attitude.

Damn this intro is straight Mouse/Mel 2020 core

>>102561369
every hololive girls gets fucked by old men and cuck their bfs and husbands.

it's sad to hear a broken Henya talk.
Still. she did well to keep it short

>>102561957
oh shit true

>>102561394
I mean, now is not the right time to try telling her that *any* corpo is different. Doesn't matter which. Even if you think it's genuinely true that company X is better, it's insensitive and tone-deaf to make the "if only you joined X company instead," argument.

And randoms on twitter shouldn't be suggesting it anyway, as if she's not a savvy enough businesswoman to do her reps and research what's best for her situation herself.

>>102561833
also incorrect. i actually dislike phase because pippa was a cunt for a long time, so i assume the rest are too. not holo either. i genuinely enjoy a lot of vsj people, so i guess i am one of you more than anything.

As expected vshojo is just a huge scam

can't a fucking org exist where it's just managers and accountant? talent pay fees for shared management, account pays salaries, managers manage.
also I'm onto you Geega, your bullshit about "corpo being employed by talent" was not forgotten

>>102561723
yeah me

>>102561655
her intro is very 2021, all cum and spit

>>102562019
Yes. They're called VChiban and 3AM lol

So I’m assuming that Froot ex poster was hired by vshojo?

>>102561957
She made it herself

>>102562016
Just because it was unsustainable doesn't mean it wasn't real.

>>102561949
One of the girls literally said he didn't know about them.

>>102562054
nah /k/uckolds do it for free

>>102562019
literally mythic
but apparently it's evil because one person said something negative about another person in this thread

>finally decides to foster small talent
>destroys the company with shitty behavior before it can happen
vshojo will do ANYTHING to avoid having to grow talents

>>102562075
Kson wasn't paid for a year and lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and she's not even a rare case
It was a huge scam and I told you about these esports dudebros
Backpacks... lmfao

>>102562019
You'd want a skilled CFO who's good at their job, trustworthy and who will put people over money.
Those are basically unicorns.

>>102562054
/k/ has been following her for a long time, so i doubt it. those gun fags really hold a grudge.

>>102562134
everyone wants the best for their favorite talents
except if it means associating with That One Guy

>>102562098
/k/ doesn’t care
t./k/

>>102562016
Well they did foot the bill on a bunch of shit. The problem was their business model was basically non-existent beyond that.

>>102562134
Its just a sponsorship org. With some light management. Theres no group cohesion or events. The represented talents have no relation to each other

>>102562093
Why these niggers get those easy gigs and yet manage to squander it? Ain't a demanding job to run a tight ship, they had a good thing there. Smells like a bit of embezzlement because the retard is too incompetent to keep his eyes on where the money is flowing and leaving. Started getting desperate and told himself it would be only a temporary thing until the snowball turned into a wrecking ball.

>>102562237
Look, I'm tired of seeing my oshi getting One Guy'd

>>102562230
Dude no one on /k/ fucking cares I don’t why you think they do

Pia just coined the term pre shojo
kek

>>102562019
You have mythic but outside some sponsors you aint having huge events or something like that with them.

I wonder if Twitch is going to remove GunRun

>>102562275
>Smells like a bit of embezzlement
A bit??? We have DIRECT FUCKING CONFIRMATION that it was embezzlement.

>>102562310
>open /k/
>gun threads
>some shitposting with anime sprinkled on it
???

>>102562220
You just have to pay them a lot, actually. They'll want millions in options and bonuses, not a free backpack.

Should I turn into a full time phase anti?

>>102562310
when i was a regular years ago now that was the base assumption. maybe its changed since then.

New penguinz0 video

>>102562379
I’m there all the time they don’t mention Froot in the slightest

>airbnb that people were crashing at
the con orgy house

>>102562398
Is it as generic and surface level as his other one? Because if so there's zero point in watching.

>>102562019
I'll be honest.
If you were there for 2012-2014 Youtube, you WOULD know, that with such a young and growing market, people jump into trends and make corporations WITHOUT ANY FUTURE planning, which obviously is gonna end up with a lot of issues (controlling and rude business, losing money, scams, etc). We saw it with Machimia, we saw with Defy Media. It is not new, and VShojo wasn't the exception and no, Mythic also isn't. It is good in the current market, but there's no idea for the future.

>>102562310
They used to. It was a long time ago. It's like how /a/ doesn't give a shit about Nyanners, but some people never move on.

never watched any pia stream
shes giving me a 100% "im fat irl" vibe, like american fat model, blond white hoe vibe

>>102562387
No, being a dedicated anti is cringe in general. Not to say I have any love for any org at this point.

>>102562383
I'll do it for like mid 6 figures and a Mata fumo

>>102561538
After everything that happened, I don't see EN branches splintering like this as an impossibility. Won't pretend to know anything now

>>102562333
I mean, indie avengers are having events for themselves regularly. At a loss, of course. And yes, they bigger - but a group pulling together could manage it

>>102562449
She's not fat. She lives in Japan and is an idolfag like Mint.

>>102562436
Dunno, watching it now. Doubt there'll be anything new though.

Will Zen collab with the preshojos?

>>102562419
Yeah I'm agreeing with you man, where the fuck Froot came from?

>>102562449
that's good, actually.

>>102562181
Anon, that's merch revenue. She was still getting her streaming money.
That's why I said it was real but unsustainable. As far as talent is concerned they were fine so long as they had the sub numbers because their stream income was 100% theirs, but the company was just impossible to get into the black by relying on just a portion of merch sales.

>>102562453
But you don't actually have the value or you wouldn't post here at all

>>102562449
She's a hafu.
>>102562398
lol
and Tori's stream appeared

>>102562510
Knowing Zen, she'll probably pay off any money they blew on preparing for their debut

I mean, I think we were all confused about VSJs financial status. We just wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.

>>102562532
Poor chick, having to start in the eye of the shitstorm. Hope she survives

>>102562562
>she'll

>>102562580
Yes, she. I don't care about using your preferred pronouns for her.

>>102562438
It's funny when Machinima comes up because they make the blackest vtuber companies look stark white
They had shit going on like contracts that gave them perpetual ownership of everything their talents make

>>102562523
Okay so Kson said she's owed "Ferrari" money. Henya said she is owed money.
Ironmouse is owed money and a charity was missing 500k

You are dumb this was a company wide scam and even the middle managers got paid some of the talent's money.

i couldn't take it anymore and fall asleep, did zen or any other people affect off this show up in henya stream

Moose /out/

>>102562564
It was too good to be true but people just wanted to hope after all the stories on how little money talent from the other companies make.

>the new gen was supposed to debut in march initially

>>102562639
waaaaaaaaaatttt

>>102562391
I’ve been there for years and they only inkling I have ever heard was a general being faggots

>>102562637
NOOOOO MOOOOSE WHY

So how does this affect Bunny joining Vshojo?

>>102562523
How are you people so certain that Vshojo was inherently unprofitable when they clearly weren't just running it on auto-pilot but rather blowing money away on useless shit?

>>102562637
She also posted a link to Mouse's charity drive. Sweet moose.

Watching Pia and she's mainly talking about how bad she feels for the girls that were going to debut and how nice they are. Also says she's still going to hang out with them

Also holy shit. They were supposed to be debut in MARCH. They could've gotten the VShojo rub before this happened. That just really makes me mad. Anyway new thread
>>102562653
>>102562653
>>102562653


Anyway new thread
'

>>102562622
Yeah, not VTuber company is gonna reach Machinima levels, but the good thing with stuff like this, is gonna reach Niji levels, not even VShojo.

>>102562637
>in the works
I bet they guilt tripped Moose into prolonging her exit like they tried with Nyan

Vshojo has nobody now

>>102562486
>pulling it toghter
Is too much effort and expensive. You need some real management and i mean real management and experience in lots of fields. Stream managers cant compare

I hope someone makes a nice long-form video on the rise and fall of VShojo. Maybe Fredrik Knudsen could make one.

>>102562625
I wonder how much money they are owing, I'd guess its around 10 mill total.

>>102562637
I wonder if she knew about the embezzlement before she was choosing to leave
so far her and kson were already in the process of leaving huh?

>>102562580
Considering all the stuff leaking and where you are, if Zen were a dude that would have been posted over and over by now.

>>102562448
Fucking where? You say this but yet I never saw anyone bitching about it and I’ve been there for years

>>102562625
Okay you dumbfuck, who do you cut income to first, the intern that does the job of 12 people on minimum wage, or your millionaire talent with a neat IOU to it? Uniornically why kson was annoying in her dogpiling on lout when he admitted he and everyone else was taking half pay

>>102562723
Kuro too.

>>102560265
Could it be...pink love returns?

>>102562725
It was related to her ex ripping them off with his badge business.

>>102562448
>but some people never move on
Those people are in /v/.

>>102562724
That would be an interesting turn of events, although I only say that out of casual morbid curiosity rather than caring either way

>>102562637
So that just leaves Froot, right?

>>102562682
Every business takes a few years to go from relying on their capital to operating on earnings. The less capital they have to work with the longer it takes to get out of the red. We have articles that show it took them 2 years to raise 11m in venture capital, and we have that one anon in a previous thread that's shared their experience with a small start up burning through 5m in a couple years.
While he didn't state what sort of business it was, you can still overlap these two to see that Vshojo, a company that's only existed for 5 years, running through 11m is well within the parameters of still being in the red.

>>102561006
These are the people who are so retarded and so unhinged even KF hates them

Pia made an entire custom game for her debut stream that she can't use anymore

>>102561152
I just want my Peke streams mannnn

>>102562808
>general faggotry
Those especially on /k/ are retards especially /arg/ who are more worried about politics than AR builds nowadays

>>102562740
kek you don't pay expenses with merch royalties
In a real company they would cut staff and renegotiate with talent and decrease salaries
The first thing we were taught in business school is the going concern. They never cared for it.
They threw themselves extravagant parties and got a bunch of attention early then ran out of money. Instead of letting the talent know anything they were kept in the dark. This was always going to end like this with the retardation or manipulation from gunrun in running a business.

>>102562637
fuck off haruka you still owe your subathon

>>102562740
NTA, but without the talents, there is no company. If you have to lay off staff to pay the talents, then you lay off staff.

>gunrun has hit the second tower
holy fuck pia

>>102562908
But what matters is how they burned those 11m.
Maybe the company was indeed inherently flawed and doomed to run out of money, but it's hard to know for certain when it's apparent management invested that whatever money they had pretty poorly.
Vshojo was like a broke nigga living on loans who still buys expensive watches and goes clubbing every weekend.

>>102559169
I don't need to know the names. Names can wait. I just need to know there are civil and criminal proceedings, then I can be patient for the outcome.

>>102563103
>Maybe the company was indeed inherently flawed and doomed to run out of money
That's what it was. And that's why I said it was real but unsustainable.
Even if you cut out the luxuries like caviar karaoke parties and ipad robots all you're doing is prolonging the inevitable.

Yep Pia is crying now
That's another notch on Gunrun's belt

>mel just moved to japan and Im so worried about her
>I dont want my friends to be hurt like this
>Mel didnt even know I was in vshojo, I wanted it to be a surprise
>we started hanging out organically when she moved to Japan
HOLY FUCK

>>102559169
>>102563171
Nothing will happen. By paying all the staff they've diffused the money towards too many people who don't own the company that can't be sued.
Beyond that the CEO and owner is MIA, there's no money in the actual company to get through legal action, and the company almost certainly had no substantial internal controls. That means there is no money trail. Not enough information if it even exists.

It was a scam. They got got. Hope you don't fall for a "no downsides" salesman again.

>>102563412
I don't have a better Mel reaction image so this'll do.

the initial pitch of Vshojo was in good intentions but sadly reality hits you hard

>>102562019
That's basically what both vichiban and 3am are: jointly owned group brand where their managers are basically assistants hires by them

>>102563635
money changes a man apparently

Can we keep the ladybug and slime girl? They were gonna be ours anyways