So it's all about money in the end.

>slavery is a good thing actually

imagine wanting your fave to starve to death just so your parasocial ass can attach to a brand

>>102560271 (OP)
>People want the money they are owed as per their contract
WHOA STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES!

>>102560271 (OP)
she originally joined vshojo at the first place because they bribed her with part of that $11m investment, she wont talk about that though

>>102560472
>pretending that these people don't know what they were getting into in the first place and couldn't quit anytime they wanted

Paying your employees shouldn't be fucking optional, are you kidding?

>>102560271 (OP)
He actually did explain that bit though. All money that was gained from both branches went into a singular pool that was then divided between the two branches. On paper the JP branch was solvent and brought in more money than it was spending. In practice that profit was being used to try and prop up EN which wasn't enough so both branches got fucked lol.

>>102560271 (OP)
So she called him and dropped the call? Typical woman.

>>102560774
She livestreamed the call retard.

>>102560753
I do not see how en side would run at a loss. All their streamers are popular enough to be self sustainable, people buy their merch and go to their m&gs/concerts. More like gunrun was trying to get a Guinness world record for shoving the biggest pile of money up his ass

>>102561593
Because the corpo doesn't get any money from subs or donos. It was structured to only profit off of a portion of sponsorships and merch (around 50% according to Kson). That is absolutely not enough to float an entire company when you consider Gunrun was going hog fucking wild blowing cash on lavish parties and advertising.

>>102561593
it didn't. he was talking out of his ass.
it's like saying the WNBA makes more money than the NBA.
Nova is the WNBA to VShojo EN being the NBA.

there is a reason fans are freaking out with pity of "uuuuu don't forget about Nova!" because they didn't do that great

>>102560271 (OP)
Try buying groceries without money, fag.

>>102561775
Brother if it costs the WNBA $100 to operate and it makes $150 then yes it is making profit if the counterpart is the NBA costing $1,000 to operate and it makes $800. Just because the EN number is bigger doesn't mean it was magically profitable.

>>102561775
See >>102561760

>>102560472
>>102560520
>>102560711
>>102561804
Hey, remember who actually paid her what they owed her?
She didn't know how good she had it

>>102562109
>Hey, remember who actually paid her what they owed her?
I don't actually

>>102560650
>Woah woah woah, it's not slavery ok? It SAYS freedom, see?
It looks like a 3rd bomb might be necessary, no wonder the new PM says they need nukes.

>>102562109
they killed her to appease the bugman and when it didn't worked the axed an entire branch. They also suspended haachama for one month because she said taiwan and susei lost one song (?)

>>102562153
What part of "owed her" don't you understand?
Either way she's now a 3 view missing 1 years worth of pay she'll never recover. Meanwhile her genmates are still printing money and get at least 10 times the amount of views she gets.

>>102562273
Bro got real defensive after a single point of evidence lol

>>102562174
explain why these people feign ignorance and only quit when they didn't want the charity dumpsterfire spreading to them. geega mentioned she knew well ahead of time.

>>102562363
>>>>evidence
Coming from the same mouth that said
>cons: none

>>102562363
Cons none btw

>>102562153
This could be referring to nijisanji aswell.

>>102562570
>>102562606
You are the type of anons who'd bootlick even after getting your face crushed by the heel of evil.

>>102560271 (OP)
>own her IP
>WHY NO PAY ME HAIYAAAAAA
sasuga

>>102562750
They owed her money by contract retard

If I want to watch a twitchthot I can just go OF or download some prawn from jav
The real reason for kson's downfall is her recent streams are boring and low effort but yea hey its the company's fault shes losing money lmao support your talent give them freedom I want to running in the 90s jungle fire

So every single dono since sept 2024 just went to some old dude fucking 20 year old girls or what

>>102562818
Proof? You can be sued for lying, kson.
Show proof instead of ME TOO ME TOO OWE ME MONEY TOO LIKE MOUSEY LIKE EVERYONE OWE ME

>>102562633
nah, she got tired of people saying Hololive is good and crashed out agian

>>102562899
Subs and donos go directly to the talents. They are owed money from sponsorships and merch.

>>102562920
You think their contracts say they make no money off sponsorships and merch? Are you retarded? This isn't just Kson. Henya and Nyanners have said they are owed money too dipshit. It's ALL of them.

>>102562940
She sounds like a full on thread schizo now

>>102562994
Show proof. Period.

>>102560753
Nothing brings me more pleasure than seeing this cesspool of a corpo die after shitting on Silvervale. Chuds win again.

>>102562994
I know you will reply calling me retard and words, but let me repeat again, if ALL of THEM are in it, just post the contract post their bank transaction and post PROOF. Or get a lawyer and sue and show the LAWYER LETTER.

>>102560271 (OP)
>quitting live
The ceo quit of kson was the one that did it?

>>102561882
The WNBA is subsidized entirely by the NBA and has never ever been profitable once in it's entire existence.

>>102563085
You first.

never trust women words
they are all liars
I am not siding with the corpo but I had enough after the mikeneko scandal
I will never trust women anymore, they are all big fat liars.

>>102562940
Sound like copium and damage control for her genius decision leaving hololive for vshoujo lol
Clearly hololive isnt a saint, but seem like they are the only one free of crash out drama like this, which means they are functional
Even the recent EN graduates all left pretty smoothly

>>102563167
Yeah anon you cracked it! They all quit over nothing. It's just some big conspiracy to own this poor poor innocent corpo!!

>>102563007
I mean she just found out that the company she was about to leave for stiffing her, had also stiffed her coworkers and stole from charity
Can't really blame her for being in a grumpy mood

>>102563290
Yea Hololive is evil, Cover is evil because everyone is quitting, HoloEN is evil. You got it m8 haha sarcasm wohoo~~ And Nimi is pregnant with dooby baby~~~

Kson said she hasn't been paid by VShojo since September 2024. Literally insane of her to let it go on that long without getting paid.

>>102563385
ye and she is praising vshojo everyday like a cultist she must be brainwashed by them and maybe she got raped too

>>102560271 (OP)
>So it's all about money in the end.

>>102563446
Ye and she? What does Kanye have to do with this?

Remember Mikeneko left Vshojo and Kson did nothing.

>>102563521
Attaching yourself to her in any capacity would have been suicide. Kson was right to do this

>>102563623
Mikeneko complained about vshojo management back then and that's one of the reason she left, Kson just keep quiet and even ensured that vshojo is in good hand.

>She wanted to get paid? What a greedy bitch
Lmao, no wonder burguerland is basically a third world country. At least the browns and seanigs work for crumbs instead of just accepting slavery as the norm.

>>102562940
>All of them are eviiiil(equipping aluminum foil to protect myself from aliens)
might just be the translation but that sounds like she is making fun of schizos who are saying all vtuber companies are evil black companies?

>>102562743
I’m not the one that overlooked a thousand warning signs from “friends” and coworkers about Vshojo’s lack of clarity.

>>102564086
She posted this too so idk probably.

>>102564246
she posted this too

>>102562153
>>102562940
Don't see any explicit mention of Hololive there. Could've talked about Niji, Phase, or a bunch of other small corpos

>vshoujo hasn't paid me in two years
>took mousy a year to speak up about how she hasn't been paid or the charity
Maybe do this shit after a month if I hadn't been paid in a month lawyers would be getting involved.

>>102564508
i always find it strange when women are obsessed with money
if i was a woman all i would want is a gigachad to knock me up 10 times

>>102560271 (OP)
What's that? Phase won again? Imagine my shock.

>>102562467
Oh rrats are abound anon, make no mistake this is classic corporate espionage. But if you want a general overview of what is going on it would be fair to consider:
>the timing of the reveal videos
>each and every member's corporate role and not just their streamer duties
>who benefits and suffers the most from this debacle
>how did these talents stay afloat for as long as they did without pay
>potential 3rd party involvement
If you consider what previous graduates are saying then this might suggest that this is their firing policy, just withhold funds until the vtuber quits. If so then trace the oldest graduates to the most recent and you'll probably find some answers.

To specifically answer your question you get to maintain normalcy and day-to-day streaming activities/income during a financially desperate time while still collectively holding the bomb with the rest of the doomed talents. If anyone drops it then they all drop which causes the event we're currently seeing.

Which begs the question, why was it dropped now? Why did mouse drop it first? And who made the bomb? Was this just a few talents getting bled out or were they all truly collectively being gutted?

Figure it out, I'm sleepin'.

>>102560871
Who said she didn't livestream?
Post says "Kson responding and quitting live on stream", comment replied it's typical women behaviour to call him and then quit the call out of getting angry. It's irrelevant to the point the fact she was streaming or not.

>>102560271 (OP)
i would like to get paid at the end of my day anon

>>102565226
She didn't "quit the call" out of getting angry you illiterate pavement ape. She quit the COMPANY.

>>102560271 (OP)
Anon, you'd instantly quit too if your employer didn't pay your for months
If you're not out of the company in a quarter of no payments then you're marked as a cuck by HR for life

>>102565347
Reading is difficult for children please understand

>>102560271 (OP)
Unless you are Suisei, Sora, or another Gen 0 that built the industry on their own backs it is all about money.

>>102560271 (OP)
>sip
I swear people these days just don't know the value of working for free to build credibility and integrity with their employers.

>>102569357
Just how much money did Suisei have to be able to not work and learn everything about modeling, rigging, audio production - and to get so good at Tetris? You can just do everything while having a fulltime job.

>>102564246
kson friends