Thread 102562118

Dancing Edition

>Her YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
>Her Membership
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUMOcHHkJ98eSfa5aj0mdTwwLQ
>Her Twitter
https://twitter.com/MintFantome
>Her Bluesky
https://bsky.app/profile/mintfantome.ghostmaid.cafe

>Twitter Spaces, Concerts, Conventions, etc.
https://mega.nz/folder/f0MmFYRK#Sd2dbdggLSpw5rAs1SNY6g
>Unarchived Karaokes
https://rentry.org/MintoKaraoke

>Merch
https://store.ghostmaid.cafe/
https://shop.moso.moe/mint-fantome/

>Games
https://mintfantome.itch.io/freak-or-treat
https://gioba-games.itch.io/fantome-no-nazo
https://gioba-games.itch.io/mintos-autocror3ct
https://gioba-games.itch.io/mint-n-friends
https://ruzzfe.itch.io/second-button

>Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccfSO2XJ67Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj41JI-jmbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78NqcZGPfBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quKNBWKmNH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz7xnpVB5OY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnko4D9dQUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT9IdLhAjLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAwmnsxR1Lg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P3l3sTMYOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEj-WEGnx58

>Our Divegrass team
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//mint/

Previous thread: >>102546022

Minto danceo

>meeting in 1 hour
Part 3 is on the horizon

Meeting hate

>Another meeting today
What's she doing...

>>102562276
That's ok, I feel it needed to be 3-4 parts to begin with.

I'm hearing someone hum numa numa ey in 2025

>>102562320
class action lawsuit

>>102562320
me

>>102562320
A lot of stuff. 3D, sponsors, gamersupps, new outfits and their respective rigging, anniversary stream, whatever else.

>>102562390
>A lot of stuff
This Wisp missed the start of stream...

>>102562372
I wrote this btw

If you listen to vtubers backwards you'll hear satanic messages.

>>102562432
NTA, but I did miss the start of the stream

minto cuteo

God I love this dork

>>102562432
No I didn't. She more than likely meant DearStage stuff and whatever else was she doing last year. The stuff from this year is all on her.

>>102562464
If you listen to Minto backwards you'll hear self-confidence

>>102561857
She should play King's Quest

>>102562509
She literally apologized that there's not gonna be a lot of stuff coming out anymore

>>102562812
Well yeah, like the DearStage video.

This guy is such a huge dork and I say this as an inept autist.

I look forward to more Minto point & click adventure games

Minki please stop apologizing...

>>102563549
same desu. they're nice nostalgia bait that take me back to my childhood.

SHE'S COMIN' RIGHT FER US

The big twist is that McCoy is a replicant isn't it? I think it's obvious at this point

>>102563785
No but (You) are.

>>102563785
Like the movie, the game doesn't say either way. You can make a case for either interpretation.

>>102563785
If I recall the first movie, the conclusion is that you never find out but different things are alluded to depending on the version of the film you watch. I assume it'll be similarly vague, but at least suggested

It's too bad she won't live.
But then again who does?

>>102564191
kino

Apologies will continue until morale improves

LODE RUNNER LETS GOOO

the load she's running? mine

>>102564658
90s gaming bros, we eating

>Minto retro arc is real
That's great. Also I played Lode Runner on NES when I was a kid, could only beat like 1 or 2 stages, the game was too big brain for me lol

i'd sure feel better if her voice wasn't giving out when talking about the karaoke

Uuuu I miss Minto...

See you later, wispos. Time to pass out and dream of Minto

>>102564774
fun fact, that conversion of the game was from Hudson Soft and was the first appearance of Bomberman.

Minto on the dance floor!

>>102564059
Other than maybe Prometheus, tying to make Deckard a replicant is the dumbest thing Ridley Scott has ever done. It completely defeats the underlying message of the film and book. The author doesn't think he's a replicant, nor do the scriptwriters or the actors. But Ridley retard Scott did, so he infected the director's cut with it. He's a good director, but he's a genuine fucking moron when it comes to understanding story themes.

The game is different though, there's definitely an argument for McCoy being one, especially with the playthroughs all being different.

I'm very autistic about this, sorry. Fun stream though, I want Minto to play more classic adventure games.

>>102564995
Yeah!

>>102564882
the Minto dream is an implanted memory, it means you're a replicant.

>>102565078
Both Ridley Scott and James Cameron completely lost the plot in the past decade or two. At least George Lucas had the grace to retire, meanwhile those 2 keep fucking up their old classics in one way or another.

>>102565078
Ridley Scott has always been a terrible writer, which is why his best films are only the ones where he has directed and not touched the script.

>>102565078
The author is dead, anon. Ridley Scott allegedly never even read the book but the movie he made is a classic nevertheless

Did they really scam minto?

>>102565477
Watch the fucking stream

>>102565477
kys dramatranny

>>102565544
Which fucking stream I went to sleep for 3 hours

>>102565714
the one that literally just ended

It's amazing how all these Vtubers can donate $10k almost like it's nothing when in my shithole country that amount is almost life changing.... well maybe I'm exaggerating but it could help you live for a couple of years knowing how to manage it.

>>102566267
Well, too bad you live in Canada a third-world country.
Should've been born a female and became a vtuber.

I just want this ghost to be happy... Why does it seem like the world has it out for her...

>>102566267
Same...

So 100% chance Vshojo tried to recruit Mint, and she either told them to suck it, or looked at the contract and then told them to suck it.

>>102566267
These are like the top 5% of all vtubers you're talking about. Not like you're gonna see Reimu or some Holostar or some chick from Phase (except Pippa maybe) throwing away 10 grand like that.

Hot take but
NijiEN > vshojo

>>102567232
It's Minto, so there's a non-zero chance she only dodged that bullet because she felt like she didn't deserve the invite.

>>102567374
NijiEN=vshojo

>>102567374
Well...one still exists, so it has that going for it. On the other it still has Uki and Luca so perhaps the endless void of nonexistence is preferable.

>>102567408
>she only dodged that bullet because she felt like she didn't deserve the invite
I belieb

>>102567408
This is what happened with U-san apparently.

>>102567455
Uki is just a faggot, at least they got rid of aster and some of the retarded management

>>102567374
minto and friends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nijien=vshojo

>>102567408
Or more likely she initially didn't want to join because she wasn't planning on streaming ever again and then after learning about the Metal Gear thing she decided she never wants to work with any vtuber agency ever again which is honestly for the best

https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1947851282972074171
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>102567901
She... she... she loves us...

>>102567901
I'm starting to think there's more going on than we think.

>>102567758
>she wasn't planning on streaming ever again
True
>after learning about the Metal Gear thing she decided she never wants to work with any vtuber agency ever again
She learnt about it when, in February? That was probably just one of many things Niji did that made her distrustful of corpos

>>102567992
>I'm starting to think
>we think
This Wisp will not come to the thread tomorrow

>>102567992
She thought she had a chance with Nimi

>>102567992
I mean she was crying at the start of the stream while talking about how a bunch of stuff she was planning went off the rails and how she was really upset about potentially disappointing people that looked forward to it, and that all her hard work felt like it disappeared over night so... I think she's made it pretty clear what's going on.

>>102566427
Mhhh maybe in hindsight she doesn't see it this way but even getting into Kurosanji despite all the bullshit that went along with it I would say that at least she had the opportunity to be there and to achieve some personal and professional goals and when she leave the experience helped her to have a stable indie career in this industry which is fiercely competitive, in comparison there are 1, 2 or even 3 view indies that even though they are very talented and put in the effort are never going to make it and that sucks.
I have no idea what goes through Mint's mind but I would reflect that even though there have been people who have fucked me over in my life I would be thankful for what I have and achieved instead of just focusing on the bad things that have happened to me, I'm not saying it's not valid to complain at times or I'm minimizing her problems but it's not like she has been the most unfortunate vtuber in this industry.

>>102567901
She was friends with several Vshojo members and had worked with them in the past. Two of her femwisp harem are now confirmed to have passed Vshojo auditions and were in the process of onboarding when this all broke.
There's a decent chance they asked her for advice about accepting the offer and she told them to go for it, because with the information she had at the time that would have looked like the right advice.
If I was in that position I would know that rationally none of that is my fault, but I'm sure I'd still feel like shit.

>>102568261
Bro, I couldn't care less about all the small indies toiling in vtubing mines for drops of CCV, my oshi is crying and that's all that matters to me

>>102568590
My point is that even though what happened to Mint and her friends is shit, let's not act like it's the end of the world or the absolute worst thing that ever happened to her, these things unfortunately happen.

>>102568834
You're trying to be rational either because that's your coping mechanism or because you don't care Minto. In any case let me have my moment of righteous anger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRM3_9Z9Qxw

Phoebe confirmed

>>102568261
I agree with your mindset about that, yeah. But with regards to what she's been talking about now, it sounds almost like a lot of the stuff she had in the works now won't even see the light of day. I hope and pray that she can keep a positive outlook - maybe focus on some personal development or connections she was able to make. But I know it'll be hard for her to feel like any of it was worthwhile... It just really fucking sucks.
And yes, there are people more unlucky and less fortunate. But this girl gets has gotten excited and invested in so many opportunities and worked hard on so many things, only to have the rug pulled out from under her way too many times.
I just want her to happy, man...

>>102567901
I want to give her a hug so badly

>>102567992
>think
>we

>>102569104
Damn...

>>102568261
>I would be thankful for what I have and achieved instead of just focusing on the bad things that have happened to me
Counterpoint: you aren't a woman/mentally unstable vtuber.

>>102569104
like,

>>102569104
gunrun should be stoned to death

My wild guess is that she was supposed to be a guest in some kind of mixed-media project Vshojo was cooking involving a concert and game of some kind.
No I won't take my meds

>>102569737
Yes, but peine forte et dure with no plea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peine_forte_et_dure

There are definitely a bunch of songs that she probably recorded at least as a guest with this potential gen now that we know who they were that are getting flushed down the drain.

>>102569784
this is the most reasonable guess, 100 times better than the catalogfag's rrat of
>mInT wAs GoInG tO jOIN vShOjO

Manifesting a horrible death for Gunrun

>>102569784
I don't think a game but there were probably a few concert or 3D things she had planned with them especially since 3 of her friends were joining

>>102570113
Oh yeah, there's a good chance that her 3D had vshojo vtubers in it and, well, they say "vshojo" a bunch and that's just impossible to put out now. Meaning that those parts have to be either cut out, or reshoot completely.

How do I stop flipping between being tsun and going all in on telling Minto I love her?

>>102570224
That's the secret Wisp: you don't

>>102570224
She's in her most vulnerable state right now, so go for it

>>102570218
Wonder if she was going to be a part of this gen.

>>102570224
That's the dance, man. When Mint is being tsun, tell her you love her. When Mint is admitting she loves us, be tsun.

>>102570526
They'll call me a schizo for it, but with how she acted on stream today I really wouldn't be surprised. Either she was gonna be a part of the new gen, or she was working with them heavily on much of the stuff she had coming up.

>>102570804
Considering everyone confirmed for it the concert makes a lot more sense. My only hope is that she doesn't blame herself.

If she had auditioned and passed, she would have said about it already

>>102570962
Unless she didn't want to say anything until everything was ready.
>>102570897
>My only hope is that she doesn't blame herself.
I'm gonna lose it if she starts saying it's her fault. In hindsight, maybe there were signs behind the scenes, sure. But no one knew the can of worms would be this ugly.
She believed in her dream and put her trust in those who believed it too. She can't blame herself for that...

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

So some fish are way worse than others

>>102567301
My wife's wife is quick witted

Why is this thread acting like there is some big hidden riddle when she already publicly worked with vshojo before

>>102570962
minto has no reason to chain herself to a corp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgde3wglIJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgde3wglIJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgde3wglIJ4

>>102572242
Buckle up, wisps.

I thought I didn't have to care about this drama but I guess I have to care after all

>>102572242
Oh boy

>>102572242
It has to be *really* bad for her to make a stream entirely around it. Now I'm worried.

>>102572336
You know shit's bad when Mint has to address the drama

>>102572242
@grok summerize this

>>102572336
It's reach is much deeper and personal than you think. You're about to find out

She wants a piece of the drama pie too huh

>>102572242
Fuck this I'm getting ice cream, hearing her cry is going to hurt me.

>>102572387
I don't think she'd want this as part of a separate stream no matter how bad it is, which is probably quite.

>>102572186(me)
>>102572242
I spoke too soon

>black screen
>no bgm
Situation is fucked, isn't it?

Uh oh.

>>102572422
She is affected retard

BLACK SCREEN BLACK SCREEN BLACK BLACK BLACK SCREEN SCREEN

AAAAAAAAAAA IM GOING MENHERA

>>102572619
At least wait for the stream to end...

>talking of the podcast
>"at the time, I was only working with vshojo, I wasn't in them"
She did join after all...

time is a circle

OH

I said in the other thread (xvsj)
She was going to join to the newer gen of the auditions, it was a Monster Girl Gen.
Pheobe, Beri, Pia, Toki, and her...

>pitched an idol group to vshojo
That's it then

OH...

Holy fuck was she actually supposed to be the new gen's senpai?

She WAS going to join LMAO

Her ultimate dream....

Proud of her for trying to work hard behind the scenes. I knew she was hard into this shit. She never rests.

That was retarded minto ngl

Oh my FUCKING GOD

She finally going to have her idol group... Fuck man...

mint really cannot catch a break holy shit

Honestly sad for her but I'm so happy she didn't end up joining in the end...

Mint gets cucked out of her dream again. God damn she cant get a break sometimes

>she was gonna head a JP idol group
WELP

Another group besides the monster gen?!?!

I'm so sorry whisps.

>we worked with the JP side of vshojo
SO YOU CAN BLAME GUNRUN FOR ALL THE FUCKING JAPAN TRIPS TOO
WITH NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT

Evaded Niji collapse, evaded VShojo collapse. Kneel.

>>102572844
Yeah me too ngl

I told you guys she wanted to join. Why are you like this Minto. Don't trust fucking companies man, you can do this shit all by yourself.

very sad, but she dodged a bullet

Even Doki knew better than to try to talk her out of that

give this poor girl another eyepatch, she is double punished

>>102572875
That was the monster girl gen, a Ghost Girl IS a monster girl

Why would you ever want to join froot's tranny company? There were always red flags.

>>102572920
Wrong, she said it was separate

this hurts..

>>102572916
between this and kson i am seething at vshojo

DEATH TO GUNRUN

>>102572890
It doesn't sound like she evaded the vshojo shitfest though

minto will always be my idol

>>102572920
She said another gen without Beri or Pia

why is she making this about herself again
wait dont tell she was set on joining vshojo? LMAO

Hello tourists

>>102572920
nah she just said that the monster girl gen was supposed to debut after hers

Goddamn, Vshojo really was just an infection in the industry, ultimately fucking up the plans of a TON of people.

WOMAN THEY TOOK YOUR MONEY 2 TIMES

>>102572936
>>102573021
Dude, not right now. She just had her dreams of an idol gen crushed.

>>102573021
she signed a contract retard

>>102573021
She's Kiara's friend, please understand

I can't take it anymore bros...

Why do corpos insist on making her cry?

>>102573021
She technically was a talent on paper dude.

Why would anyone go to Vshojo for doing idol shit? This girl is retarded.

Now I actually believe NijiEN > vshojo

So I don't get it, what's stopping her from forming an Idol group herself? Lack of confidence or lack of knowledge about running and managing things? I'm kind of a new fan so pls dont be rude to me

>>102573021
Retarded tourist
She was gonna be the manager of a JP idol group

>>102573021
She was IN vshojo you tard
She already signed

>>102573021
she DID join

>>102573142
Pretty much the two things you said

SEND THE WARPLANES TO BOMB CUBA CAUSE GUNRUN IS DEFINITELY HIDING THERE
WHAT A FUMBLE

>>102573128
Mata probably talked her into it.

STOP APOLOGIZING YOU STUPID GHOST

Man, i just tune in by chance and is a bit heart wrenching hearing her cry over not being able to fulfill her idol group...

>>102573142
Connections, money, legal stuff, it's a lot that a single person can't do, especially from a different country.

>>102573142
Most likely she already did a lot of stuff but now that got canned so they have to do everything again

Wait since when was mint in VShojo?

I felt a disturbance in the force and woke up
Poor minto..

>>102573021
>I was signed on to be a part of a JP Idol group by VSHoujo waiting for debut for the past year
>WOW WTF why is she making this about herself
Literally eat a bullet

3D concert and Kiara is not invited

Why couldn't it be phase connect or idol man, fuck matara.

>>102573212
I got this feeling too and honestly fuck that bitch

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPP APOLOGIZING
STOP STOP STOP STOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>102573105
Cause she always picks wrong. She dumb.

3D DEBUT CONCERT STILL HAPPENING
NOT ALL IS LOST

>>102573264
She was going to join

Damn, that one anarchy mint image aged like fucking milk, huh? She was planning to sell out to vshojo all along

/xvsj+/fag here... sorry wisps... Jesus Christ you have no idea how fucking MAD we are right now...

>>102573132
Moral of the story is all corpos are bad, especially all these ones run by shady figureheads. Nevermind indie supremacy, no clue what's stopping a vtuber from building a corpo up themselves desu. With how fucked every corpo has been in the past, surely if one tried they wouldn't be nearly as bad

mint suffers the most
someone save her jesus christ

>>102573142
>What's the point of a company like just do all the management, book keeping, legal work and accounting yourself bro.

>>102573278
Death to all corpos

>>102573105
I hate it.
Minto please just don't join one at this point we all know entertainment companies are ALWAYS shit
ALWAYS

>>102573212
Did you even listen to her explanation?

>>102573142
You can't do everything yourself, VShojo wasn't the way to go with what we know these days, but they fucked up. They fucked a lot of people.
As much as I want to say they were useless, JP did get a UMG contract

>>102573315
Awww. That sucks. Why tho? I loved my Maid Mint as an indy.

>>102573319
I'd come be angry in your thread but I have no doubt it's also full of tourists.

>>102573278
Idol IS dead, anon-chama.

>>102571803
I went to make this and came back to an absolute shitshow so it feels kind of inappropriate to post now but fuck it, maybe someone will get a chuckle.

>>102573322
That's glitch stars no?

Mint's been a member of vshojo for whole year

ok the way she worded "those who knew and let them walk into a burning building" is interesting material

>maybe something will happen for me one day
my heart just broke

This is kinda gut-wrenching.

Some of you seem to really underestimate the kind of connections and opportunities you get being corpo

MINT JUST JOIN HOLOLIVE AND ALL OF YOUR DREAMS WILL COME TRUE

>>102573444
I wonder who she means. Is she trying to get kson to an hero? lmfao.

>>102573132
Showbiz is brutal.

Fuck it

Fuck it

I'll accept the dorito

Just let her be happy on stage

Maybe you shouldn't have left niji lmaooooooooo

>>102573402
glitchstars ceo is a yugioh youtuber

>>102573278
>phase
ew
>idol
died
>matara
snake

She's gonna join when another one offers her a group isn't she...

Time to leech on holo 500% harder, that's quite literally her only option now to get a group of friends

>>102573444
Yeah, fucking Gunrun. Who she said she knew personally. FUCK that guy

>>102573461
Wasn’t she just in three concerts?

>>102573444
matara not beating the allegations

>I am not good...at marketing myself
I know its best to comfort her right now, but I also want to slap the shit out of her just for that one dumb statement. Mint can easily market herself just by how likable she is, people love her.

>>102573444
Most likely gunrun no?

>>102573444
Did you listen to her saying she knew Gunrun personally, there's also staff.

Not shitposting, let's talk about this guys

she's great friends with a bunch of holos but will blindly trust every shady corporation and not cover

>>102573461
I am going to get obscenely rich and fund her dreams if it's the last fucking thing I do.

Why does this keep happening to her? Hasn't she suffered enough? Someone please save this poor woman.

>>102573444
Vei and Nyanners

>>102573488
Kiara probably confides some behind the scenes info that might put her off the idea and she probably doesnt want to retire Mint again.

she meant vei nyanners and the other one who left so long ago but said nothing untill now

>>102573502
I don't believe in the dorito neither

>>102573352
That is probably the hardest to do as an indie. Look at Ado after getting signed by UMJ.

Hololive reboots Gura. It's Mint. How pissed would people be? lmao

>>102573380
I just found out because of you lmao

>>102573502
Please god no more corpos
Never again

minto has self admitted imposter syndrome

This is all because she thought Niji was better than Holo for some reason and proceed to join Niji LMAO

>>102573284
The fucking whiplash on all these membershills honestly is the funniest thing. Like every one of these bitches was like "Come join Vshojo were women and thoughts are free" everytime some drama went on in the industry, they caught the driftwood after every other company shipwrecked and it turns out they were just or even worse than all of them. Turns out you just need to make women feel like they're powerfull, independend and in charge to have them work as your slaves.

>>102573505
>>102573402
Duellogs is not a Vtuber but she made the corpo to help his personal friends that are, so close enough

>>102573351
Yes? vshojo did a pretty good job on fooling her.

She wants to be an idol?

>>102573609
The three that left told people their contracts were shit.

Can't she just stay indie?

>>102573625
most likely but if they let her keep her model like suisei and made Dev Is EN it'd be ok

>>102573687
Mf she said she pitched the idea HERSELF to Gunrun. Never said anything about Matara.

>>102573502
the next option is phase as much as i'd hate it

>>102573718
Don't tell me you believe her when she says she doesn't want to be one?

>>102573554
That felt remarkably unfiltered and hurt to hear too. This mood reminds me of the twitter spaces after her last graduation, she sounds like she's really in the dumps thinking about this...

this sucks man.

>>102573718
My guess is that dream was reborn during her time at niji

>>102573491
Did she even interact with Kson at all? It seems more like Gunrun overpromised and underdelivered, meanwhile Matara probably didn't really tell Mint about what problems were going on. I don't know if she kept in contact enough with Michi or Kuro but I'm guessing they were overwhelmed with their own payment concerns.

>>102573574
I mean maybe Phase has dodged this shit because they haven't done something that throws them so far in the red they owe what is probably millions to talents.

Why are some of you fucking idiots pinning this on Mata?, stop trying to make a villain for this, it's more complex than that.

>>102573727
EN indies don't get industry connections

>>102573502
I don't understand why if her dream is to be an idol vtuber she bends over backwards to avoid THE vtuber idol company, which already has a bunch of her friends, and instead chooses to fall for scam after scam

>>102573678
Niji is bigger in JP I guess that was why?

>>102573461
She had her hopes raised twice by corporations… I hope she’s able to get the small things she’s wishing for. She got swindled back to back no less.

>>102573779
Crashed and burned during her time in niji as well!

>>102573718
Yeah and she joins niji for it. She's a genius, I know.

>>102573355
It was the only way she could think of where she could realize her dream of getting everything she doesn't care about too much done by other people AND be part of a group again (and an idol-themed one, at long last).

>>102573502
she'll never join a jp corpo again

>>102573574
I like both but even if it does happen it won't for a very long time phase is obviously setting up gen4 right now. Maybe like 1 or 2 people from vshojo COULD join but it's a bad idea to just poach people without really seeing if they're compatible

>>102573379
You aren't wrong, but there's enough of us reacting to this news that we're drowning them out. Come be pissed with us.

Also we're going to add her to the thread OP. She was technically VShojo. This fucking sucks.

>>102573759
Considering the timing of when she signed, this has been The Thing that she's been looking forward to and working on in the background. Her next step after everything fell apart at Niji. It's no wonder she sounds so defeated.
I feel so fucking bad for her.

>>102573488
Nyo.

IMO Mint should have been the one to get married instead of Nimi, someone needs to fix her and knock her up and give her something to do other than hate herself for no reason

>>102573742
She literally said she came up with the idea with Matara when they were stuck in a hotel/during that trip, presumably with Matara pushing for it to be vshojo.
Dumb speechwatcher.

>>102573750
You can hate Phase as much as you like, but they're still, somehow, the most stable corpo in the business.

>>102573813
The only thing I blame mata is making mint consider vshojo, but I doubt she is the mastermind and not just another victim

>>102573813
It's drama tourists, pay them no mind.

GUNRUN ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE TORTURED TO DEATH

>>102573759
Just like with her last go around with this she blames herself as if she didnt try hard enough, and this is her fault. She is dealt bad hands or given advice without knowing whats going behind the scenes. Its not her fault this happened and she got burned.

>>102573819
She doesn't avoid them, she just can't join them, either because of some agreement between Holo and Niji, or she had PTSD from working in a JP corpo (although now she'll have it from any corpo)

>>102573727
It's going to be very expensive and difficult to afford booking concert venues as an indie, you're pretty much relegated to convention spaces as a guest. But that's still expensive as fuck, and you're competing against actual companies.
Of course even smaller scale idol concerts or online only is less expensive, but it's not the same.

>>102573845
This statement was so weird. Like. She has friends she collabs with all the time. She sings all the time. Does she, like, need a management to corral her into collabing with artificial genmates?

Mint never needed vshojo and that stream made no sense to me even after people explaining it to me here.

>>102573826
If anything getting screwed made those dreams stronger

>>102573742
no need to get so rude. so, an idol-esque gen was coming with her at the helm (because it was her idea) but vshojo messed up. her choices are very limited now and time isn't on her side as she's getting older. for corpos, phase and...V4Mirai as crazy as that sounds. Mari, it's time to step up

Had no idea what was going on. can I get a QRD? Its not clear what happened from all these comments.
Something to do with Vshojo...but what?
By the time I saw she was streaming again she ended it crying.
WTF is going on!?

>>102573845
>>102573866
This is heartbreaking for me. I'll come join you guys. I'm also sad, I don't know into Mint you are but she puts all of herself into everything and she deserves better.

>>102573898
because they don't do shit anon
which is great for their unambitious girls i guess

>every single thing she wanted NijiEN got in the past 18 months
lol
lmao even
NijiEN WON!!!

>>102573727
It's much more difficult. Having branding/corpo backing is a HUGE boon.

>>102573574
Mint hates being involved with drama or being confrontational and Phase is the company full of racist political streamers

>>102573981
She was going to join VShojo JP as the head of Idol gen.

>>102573925
She would not be the first ex-Niji to join Hololive

>>102573981
>not only a dramafag coming into a general
>but a lazy dramafag thet wants to be spoon-fed
Fucking kill yourself.

>>102573925
Holo has literally poached luna directly from niji lmao.

>>102573953
she wants to be with girls that dont suck ass at singing and actually try to be a performer

>>102573953
Remember this was started over a year ago when it was just matara and eventually doki. She was in a vulnerable place.

>>102573508
>>102573278
all matara did was lactch on to bricky for a better merch contract, in hindsight this was the best move anyone did in that corpo

>>102573981
Just a pity party from an interaction with vshojo a year ago that mounted to nothing just because vshojo drama is hot right now

>>102573981
she joined vshojo last year (contractually) to form her own idol gen, they were supposed to debut but that got pushed back and well y'know is now not happening at all

>>102573953
It's clear to me that Mint feels like she needs some sort of outside structure, that she feels aimless without one despite her friends and fans.

>>102573953
She has friends, but not a group. A wave/generation is a different sort of unit.

>>102573981
Watch the stream, it's only like 15min long

>>102573953
Look at all the work she did with NijiEN, even as she was leaving with the big group cover of Oto no naru hou e, on her fucking birthday of all days. She's a woman who thrives in groups and collaborations. It's what she does.

>>102574045
the guy who has never watched a single phase connect stream:

>>102573953
During her first months after the comeback she said she missed being part of a group, sharing a discord, joining vc and people were there whenever, watch movies and those things, she felt lonely after being used to that during her time at niji

>>102574008
They're surviving because they act like how they are, a small corpo spending what they can afford. Every corpo is dying because they are chasing the Hololive dream with no money to fuel it

>>102573953
to do more than just a collab game stream, the ones in your picture worked with the oshispark team for a concert.
anything outside of youtube like convention appearances, venue booking, and especially expensive projects like 3D studio work aren't meant to be done by just you and some friends.

>>102573953
I hate to drag her into this, but Mint and Sayu probably share similar sets of brainworms. Sure they have friends that stream with them, but they still want to feel like they have a premade "home". But that doesn't really exist in corpos.

>>102574164
Correct

I think basically every woman who left NijiEN regrets it in a way

>>102573798
They don't really seem to have any plans for growth and basically ride on the back of Pippa.

>>102574152
And that's issue anyone who doesn't watch them thinks this.

>>102573981
For the past year she was a signed VSHojo member and was going to head a JP Idol branch. Things kept getting pushed back or delayed and then this. She even met the other 2 girls she be working with.

Basically everything she has done in the past year and future plans/ideas are gone

>>102574075
>>102574081
Ages ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they agreed not to do it anymore after they saw people's reactions.

>>102573818
Corpos besides cover are dying, she knows Kiara in hololive, is connected to doki and some now ex vshojo girls. She is the industry.

>>102574190
ogey riku

>>102574190
You're actually retarded if you think she wants back into Niji after everything they denied her.

>>102574078
not a dramafag. Just want to know why my Oshi was crying.
Want to avoid bringing something up unknowingly while chatting in a stream.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>102573798
Dizzy and Lia were both fucking pissed for some reason the other day

>>102573678
nah, she got rejected by cover ONCE, she saw their debuts and her negative self-esteem ass went "welp, that's it, i could never aspire to be near them. hopefully nijien is the same as nijijp and they get to collab with holoen all the time while working in a less stressful environment"
and needless to say that was the fumble of the century

>>102573953
This was very early in her indie career. She's only now just building a new home with new friends. Sloppy sisters and G.A.Y. are all before this.

>>102574075
>>102574081
That was when hololive was 5 times smaller than niji retards

>>102574190
There is no way Doki regrets it lmao

>>102573953
see >>102569104 which was made only an hour before mint.

>>102574190
this might be the most deranged post in this thread lmao

>>102574228
Not the vtuber community, the entertainment industry. 3D studios, record labels, game company contacts, those things.

>>102574190
Every woman who left NijiEN regrets leaving.
Every woman who stayed in NijiEN regrets not leaving.
Women.

>>102573965
>Mari
Well, she *was* in chat...

Punished Mine, A woman betrayed

>>102574214
no-poaching agreements are a violation of anti-trust law and are illegal in most countries including japan and the US

>>102574265
Real and if she has any semblance of JP she can has crazy collabs with any of the JP girls like IyRS
and some what Ina. I think its more she doesnt want to re-retire Mint again and Niji fuckery, but she seems to have somewhat semi contact with Nerissa,Biboo,FWMC, and Kiara.

>>102574245
Just watch the stream.

HATE niji
HATE vshojo
both must BURN

>>102574010
These falseflags are so weird

>>102574164
Every corpo is dying because the streamer/influencer space is full of snakes, crooks, and pests. Hell even the political ones are finding themselves out in hot water over the fallout from oct 7th.

>>102574265
I will never forget she being a contrarian saying Niji is better than Holo in that one clip, just because she got rejected once. All of other holos had at least reject 2-5 times before succeeding, she deserves all these misfortune

>>102574192
I mean they are growing conservatively I think. Phasecon is going to be a thing and as long as they don't fuck that up... I guess they have proven they can organize big things.

>>102574254
I know Mint and Lia are at least acquaintances, not sure who Dizzy knows in this whole thing.

>>102574369
It's not poaching when they're no longer in the company.

There's a sense of belonging and purpose that comes from being part of a group that she craves.
She's going to need time to heal from this completely collapsing, but expect her to keep searching for it.

>>102573965
>V4Mirai
brave group is practically almost if not as bad as niji and its amusing how blind the west is to this fact

>>102574238
She's in a vulnerable enough state that she could be made to return to her fairy body. It's a non-zero chance.

>>102574362
Mari was streaming and ended abruptly just to watch Mint's

>>102574438
She literally never said Niji was better than Holo. She said "Niji has some good vtubers too"

>>102574408
well the second one is pretty much all the way burnt to smoldering ashes, we just have to join the hunt to track down gunrun to draw and quarter him

>>102574466
Dizzy likely knows some middle management

>>102574213
ah fuck that's crushing. She seemed like she put a lot of time and effort into that project.

I don't know what her exact dreams are but maybe what's best is if she can make some sort of indie confederation?
Seems like straight up corpos keep fucking her over.

She seems to be able to get streams going with hololive and other people. Is it really that difficult for her to set up these collabs?
She seems to have tons of friendlies in the industry.

>>102574489
I'm worried about her. She's been through so much, I'm worried she might give up again...

>>102573798
Phase is bizarre. The talents do have aspirations and goals but the fish doesn't seem to give much of a shit. He just kind of uses the brand to do his own thing like looping the whole company into big convention circuits and obviously the whole coffee shit, and then I feel any time I hear of a project happening at Phase it's almost always funded by the talents

>>102574472
if it's illegal when they are part of the company how would it be LESS illegal when they aren't?

>>102574466
Conventions are notoriously expencive to run and amazingly hard to turn a profit. I see the fish bankrupting the company trying to do that before it succeeding.

>>102574538
Insane cope from her

>>102574521
And?
Do you have any better choices?
She's definitely looking for a place to belong and a structure.

>>102574366
Punished Mime.

Hey wisps. I'm sorry that your oshi was lured into that shambling dumpsterfire and was hurt by it. I hope that her future dreams shine bright, and I hope that a special kind of vengeance finds Gunrun for betraying her and so many others.

>>102574192
Phase hasn't depended on Pippa the way you think in a while. She still has the highest sub count, but her ccv is comparable to a number of different girls. She's essentially sequestered herself away from the rest of the company, too.
I swear, I don't know where people get this idea that Phase is a bunch of political ideologues and grifters.
It's catalog slop.

just join hololive minto, accept the kirara's nepo hire slot

>>102573953
There's something different about having a shared universe. Mint could start up her own Minecraft server, but it'd just be "Mint and her friends felt like playing Minecraft for a few streams", whereas when a company like Hololive or Nijisanji do it, it becames an event unto itself. It becames a shared resource that everyone can dip into and you get unexpected meetings between talent that don't usually interact, rather than only people who already know each other since obviously they're the ones who'd get invited to the collab. It's like playing an MMO on a persistent server versus running a private server just for your friends.

>>102574643
>a structure.
That is something Brave Group does not have. They just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. And nothing is sticking so far.

>>102574521
Brave Group is the Tencent of the vtubing world. Yeah they're bad, but they keep a loose leash on the groups they acquire(or fund). HimeHina, Neo-Porte, and VSPO are all doing fine within their niche.
Their home grown groups don't have a good track record, but V4 Mirai is probably the same size Phase and they have better access to 3D and mocap facilities. Gigi came from there and she seemed alright there, but literally any girl getting a holo contract is going to leave that place.

>>102574598
It's a way for both companies to have that agreement without it breaking a law.

>>102574694
I have never seen your kind before, but I appreciate the kind words, stranger. The thread is understandably chaos right now, apologies.

I said in an earlier thread that there's no way she'd be dumb enough to join Vshojo after learning her lessons with Niji. Came back to admit I was wrong for forgetting where I was and daring to think

Minto instead of a company please consider the equivalent of a Hanamori. Just start as a small group with you and two others where you agree to be an official unit and then work towards being bigger.
It's not as grand scale as you'd like but it carries a lot less risk and if you really need a company you can have one acquire your group a few months to a year in.

>>102574768
Same

Hey vsj is probably going to be on sale for cheap soon she can buy it and finally make VMinto

>>102574694
I'll be honest I don't know what you are, but thank you for the well wishes. I wish both you and your oshi a pleasant night.

>>102574770
I mean, she never joined hanamori neither

>>102574770
hanamori was never capable of a stage event

>>102574768
Pretty sure you said that to me. I guess I know that woman too damn well.

>>102574770
EXACTLY, WHY SHE DOESN'T GET THIS EVEN IF SHE WANTS AN IDOL GROUP SHE DOESN'T NEED TO MAKE A COMPANY OF IT GODDAMN

>>102574563
Ya a lotta of early stuff seemed to be talent funded. More or less seems like the company has picked up steam actually doing things behind the scene though.

>>102574613
I'd assume its mostly as an advertisement for the company and their capabilities, less about turning a profit for that particular event.

>>102574746
Yeah, basically if you want to perform for real, holo is the only real game in town, especially as EN.

>>102574563
Fishman is more along the lines of someone that accidentally stumbled into success because everyone else shot themselves in the foot first. He isn't really that smart, because I think some of ideas like either a League/Teamfight Tactics and a Diablo 4 launch stream didn't really go anywhere.

The thing with VShojoJP was Mofuku, the literal owner of DearStage and someone who works directly with VShojoJP, unironically hate VShojo all you want (I do as well with everything coming out), but it would have been genuinely great for her, hence why she said it was going great for her. Until the VShitshow of EN affected everything.

>>102574770
She might think about that now, now that her idol gen dream just went up in smoke.

>>102574837
Vshojo is dissolving anon, there's no one left working there

>>102574855
Hanamori was before their members got big for joining a corpo, now it's different

Hey uh so when the fuck is fantastic reality gonna finally upload a vod of the concert so I can hear proper audio of minto's part

>>102574719
She should join the Vsmp then

>>102574872
>EXACTLY, WHY SHE DOESN'T GET THIS EVEN IF SHE WANTS AN IDOL GROUP SHE DOESN'T NEED TO MAKE A COMPANY OF IT GODDAMN
Except VshojoJP had direct connection to her oshi idol company, Dearstage. She wouldn't get that sort of connection as just a random EN indie idol group.

>>102574756
>If the restriction applies even after the employees have left, it is even more likely to be considered excessive and unjustifiable.

If there's someone who could pull a Sasaki and return to "heaven", it's Mint. As crazy as that seems.

>>102574898
She shouldn't have left and just promoted herself after being the last one standing
>He he, mine now

>>102574888
V4Mirai also has regular 3d concerts

>>102574770
There's zero EN indies that are as big and shares the same interest as her, that are not twitch whores. The only thing preventing her is sharing her 2-4k CCV fanbase with literal 2views which could overwhelm them

>>102574892
Kson wasn't getting paid for 10 months either, and that was handled by VshJP. I didn't watch Henya's stream, but apparently her too?
The entire company was a shitshow.

I feel bad about feeling good for vshojo imploding before minto joining in a public way

after beri's stream today I didn't think things could get worse but god damn
don't come here often but sending love to mint and you wisps
what a fucking mess

>>102574997
Niji isn't doing that anymore. And I doubt Mint wants back.

>>102574926
Ask Mariya next time she streams

>>102574971
That's what she thinks because at the end of the day she has 0 faith in herself even though not too long ago she managed to add a bunch of idols on her Discord because of her contacts with people from Touhou LW.

>>102575071
Thanks Beribro

>>102574997
It would be different, Sasaki came back after she forced niji to get perms, minto would (she won't) come back without anything compared to her past

>>102574552
>Is it really that difficult for her to set up these collabs?
I don't think Mint is the one setting up those collabs; I think it's almost always the other party reaching out to her.
Doesn't matter how many friends she has if she refuses to reach out to them because she feels like she's a burden on them or whatever her brainworms tell her.

>>102574759
>>102574839
Shin'eitai (kson fans). We don't really have a widely-used fan mascot image. We're no strangers to being dragged through shit at the hands of some corpo, so I really empathize with your situation.
Also I have listened to "weh 3" on loop, for at least five hundred plays.

>>102575053
Vsjp was apparently running fine, but their funding was getting syphoned by EN

>>102575053
Since both companies hold the same wallet, the finances affected both sides, JP got fucking UMJ by some fucking reason, truth be told they had more tools to do stuff. But this is a generational fuck up

>>102575053
From Kson's interview with the JP manager it sounds as though the JP side was hand tied by EN.

>>102575053
>no one in the whole company is getting paid for over a year
I don't understand how there can be more red flags than China and everyone just went along with it. Why the fuck didn't everyone walk after the second missed payment?

>>102575081
Well, we are in a weird timeline. Did you really expect Vshojo to disintegrate in less than 2 days a week ago? I know I didn't.
The possibility is still non-zero.

>>102575053
The JP "branch" wasn't actually a branch. The JP CEO was a glorified department head. The JP side and EN side shared a single fucking bank account. It was one business with no separation.

>>102574971
>She wouldn't get that sort of connection as just a random EN indie idol group
She has connections with it herself...
Anon? This is like saying she'd never have a chance to collab with Aonyan when she's mutuals and talks pretty often with her manager.
I think she and you both underestimate how much pull she has. The only event she's been in that wasn't booked out was Virtual Reality and that's only because they made it really expensive and gave her barely any songs.
It's idiotic to think that most groups wouldn't kill for a chance to collab with her in some way. You really overestimate how popular a lot of the groups she's fans of are.
The ONLY downside of not having a company is that she'd need to arrange 3D studio stuff herself

>>102574892
If it had panned out she would have been on top of the world.

>>102575071
hope you're doing ok too, its been a rough day

>>102575045
If this was true then nobody would have passed the auditions they were holding.

>>102574882
>an advertisement for the company and their capabilities, less about turning a profit for that particular event
Put your company hundreds of thousands of dollars in the red... Just to prove that you can

>>102574997
If anything, Hololive would be a more clear option, but I feel like without incorporting her AS Mint (ala JPGen 0) then it's kinda impossible.
I'm also sure she likes her freedom as an Indie, but if she really wants to get to a big stage, she clearly has an audience there and is in good standing with them, both with talent and management.
Hell, Kiara outright said she was recruiting her on her last trip to JP, and she declined because she "had her own thing going on", so maybe that's more of a possibility now.

>>102575303
The idol gen we are talking about, and that Mint was talking about, was on the JP side.

>>102575174
Oh, you guys are real ones. Respect.

Can coverniggers and nijiniggers please fuck off?
Thanks.
And take the phaseniggers with you as well.

>>102575240
You DO realize that as much Aonyan can help her, someone like a producer of a shitton of small idols would help 10x more than her?

>>102575218
yeah because their cofounder nyanners nyatasha left due to changes in the contract and it was clear then the company was bad just because other retards dont notice these things because they fail to look back

>>102575174
Always loved and respected Kson. Thank you for the well wishes.

>>102575382
Yeah and?
Why do you think streamer groups need to be only English? There are plenty of JP ones.

>>102575240
Aonyan isn't part of Dearstage, she's an independent idol now. And while she might be friends with some idols from Dearstage (like Nemoto Nagi), that doesn't automatically mean Dearstage would be open to working with her. A direct connection to the founder/director (who works for VshojoJP), on the other hand, would have a much greater chance of success. (plus, do you really think she would ask one of her idols to hook her up with management? lol no)

surely there are producers frothing at the mouth now that minto is available

Actually isn't this a blessing in disguise? Imagine the fall out of this board when she reveals to to be joining vshojo a few weeks later. Maybe the fact that Mint has been and will be considered an indie is a good thing.

>>102575382
Staff might have been JP but her genmates might not have been. It seems pretty likely that one of them was Phoebe.

>>102574929
She doesn't want to because that's imposing herself or something like that, she said she'd only join if they invited her out of their own volition
But I'm pretty sure the first time this came up was well after her pitch to Gunrun so maybe now she'll sing a different tune?

>>102575460
>Cofounder
lol no
The Cofounders are Gunrun, Mowtendoo and Apek. Nyan was just contracted by them as everyone else.

>>102575393
https://youtu.be/f-UbyQUUykE?t=2645

Is a baker wisp in the hizzy

>>102575590
Yeah I'm here

So who are the other members of this idol gen? Are they not existing vtubers

>>102575626
Can you make a non-lewd OP for once?

t. baked this bread

>>102575682
All I've heard is speculation. If any of it has any merit I'm going to be even more upset.

>>102575519
'likely' as in 'Mint literally said so' yes

>>102575626
Disregard my last comment. Can you make the horniest OP possible

>>102575682
Most likely.

I want to know who were the other members that were going to debut with her

>>102574699
I'll be blunt. I don't want anyone near Lumi. Don't trust that woman.

>>102575360
Current Holo is crunching very hard on the idol side so it may work in her favor. Her "freedom" still comes at the cost of constant loneliness due to the nature of being an indie.
>Kiara
it's obvious she's trying to get Yagoo to sign her up.
Still, I hope she can realize her dream whether it's being picked up by holo, returning as Pomu or something nicer.

>>102575768
https://www.youtube.com/@MageMimi
She's modded on Mint's channel

>>102575518
The problem is that minto actually wants to do stuff for her fans besides streaming. Pretty much every indie(including japanese ones) loses their ass on 3D stuff even if some japanese mocap studios are opening their doors for independent creators. Paying for staffing, specialized equipment and cameras, sound mixers, editors, and legal dudes so your shit doesn't get copyright struck from the internet is fucking expensive without an organization backing you.
If she wants to do cute dumb dancing shorts, it's actually not that bad. But anything else is going to run minimum 20k+ if not more.

>>102575682
There's speculation with some light weight to it that Saba was going to be in it.
>Followed Gunrun even on her old Twitter
>Unfollowed him immediately after this all came out
>Said this at the end of her stream earlier today

>>102575816
Nah not her, she's part of the team who does music for Kiara. Mint met them at offkai

>>102575736
She never name dropped Phoebe in the entire video. She said Beri and Pia were set to debut in a later gen.

>>102575682
There was this one idol-ish chuuba that posted a video also mentioning that she was set to debut with vshojo, but based on her wording and the fact that Pia instantly replied to her, I think that one was set to debut in the "monster girl" gen. Which just makes me extremely confused

>>102575869
>Mint and Saba in an idol group together
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW???

>>102575869
Could you fucking imagine? I refuse to believe it.

>>102575518
I mean, Mint has been IN VShojo for a year. Everything done in that year, has been touched by them. Even the money, so it was just the same.

>>102575899 (me)
>>102575899
oh yeah, it was Phoebe. the wording in her post makes me believe she was supposed to be part of the other group, not the idol one

>>102575869
Ehhh I doubt it, she would have followed Mint sooner otherwise

>>102575899
>he doesn't know who phoebe is
jfc

>>102575869
...no. no. No. NO. NO! NONONONO NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>102575869
in what world do you live in that Saba could ever do idol stuff that doesnt require 5 months of tummy hort and a year off to take a break to do fuck all? The group had to be streamers and idols not deadweight

So which was worse, Vshojo or Niji?

>>102575869
My guess is that schizos were right and she was getting helped by Gunrun.

>>102575996
>there is a timeline where Gura was poached by vshojo

>>102575869
the idea that Gura left hololive to join "Talent Freedom" idol group only for it to implode within a month of her debut is really funny to me

>>102576004
Niji, because they had the resources to make things happen, but didn't use them.
Vshojo wanted to make things happen, and they would have happened if they didn't run out of resources.

>>102575899
Phoebe mentioned doing idol things with vshojo though. I think it's pretty likely her. Well whatever, the relevant people will clarify if they want to.

>>102576004
Vshojo at least gave her an opportunity, worked with her on it, but then the retard of gunrun destroyed it. Meanwhile in niji she didn't get shit.

>>102575983
I usually only stick to lig, and today was the first time I heard of her... Sorry...

>>102575951
Pia called her "senpai", put 2 and 2 together

>>102576004
VShojo was insanely greedy and dissapointed a lot of vtubers. Niji has hidden sexual assaults, almost made a talent killed herself, has been greedy and probably some shit that hasn't seen the light of day.

>>102576085
It makes sense not everyone follows Mint super closely. Sorry, I'm a bit upset at the moment.

Could've just apply to holoen

>>102575869
Holy shit if Saba confirms this tomorrow it's going to blow up this board.

>>102575869
saba was just weird and tired at the end of her stream, she wasnt about to drop any sort of bombshells, she just literally was zoning out from tiredness when she ended

>>102576085
Anon she performed in the concert your image is from...

>>102576092
Because Mint would debut first, while the gen Pia was in was gonna debut later.

>>102575972
Saba DOES follow Mint though???

>>102576004
I think vshojo, it's like that bunny cover niji didn't let her upload but instead of being a cover, it was several recordings and trips

>>102576191
Keyword being "sooner". If this was something that as being worked on for a year, she wouldn't have only followed Minto in the last couple of days, it would have happened way earlier.

>>102576075
>>102576092
This makes the entire ordeal a lot more confusing to me then, since Beri/Tori/Pia mentioned not getting in contact with any other talent besides the girls that were in their own gen, and the three girls immediately replying to Phoebe makes me assume she was also acquainted with them, whereas I feel like Mint might've mentioned Phoebe if she was part of it
But I guess at this point this doesn't really matter anyway, just semantics

>>102576234
The recordings & trips would be for her 3D debut concert, which is still happening.

minto will be offline tomorrow be sure to send her some love now!

>>102575240
I know we all love to dunk on Mint for being unreasonably harsh with herself, but she HAS tried to get certain opportunities that are near and dear to her heart before, and she was rejected. One of the reasons she wanted more subs (the only reason?) was that she thought that with more reach they might react differently.

>>102576004
So far still Niji, but there's still more Vshojo dirty laundry to be revealed this week I'm sure so don't count them out yet.
Wactor still way ahead of them both, of course.

>>102575869
>took forever to just quit Hololive for good
>got tired of waiting for over a year, just said "fuck it" and decided to redebut and let the vshojo idol project work itself out after

i can believe it

>>102576313
People started finding out a few weeks ago. It's pretty likely that they started talking to each other when they found out how fucked Vshojo actually was. Mint and Beri are close, and Phoebe and Pia both opened for FTR.

>>102576355
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1947887975905235238
Go tell her you're proud of her and that you sympathize with her and that you love her

Waiting room up for 5yr Anniversary stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn7JBU7CbzM

>>102575869
That would be such a tragic loss, we are in a lesser timeline

bread in oven

>>102576561
Does anybody really believe Saba was going to be some dedicated, hardworking idol talent for Vshojo after the past three years?

>>102576336
Not everything, watch the stream again

>>102576606
There were other things planned to happen, yes, but she didn't say how much work she had put into them yet.

Holy shit the way she sounded, totally beaten to the ground, now I'm scared she'll try an hero.
Please Mint don't do it, there are so many people who love you, please don't do anything that is irreversible and permanent, there will always be a better day.

>>102576538
UUUUUUU minto love

>>102577141
>now I'm scared she'll try an hero
She would never. She already stated on Twitter she wants to stay our ghost maid. Relax.

>>102576713
Minto said she doesn't have stuff to show us besides her 3D. That's pretty much implying that there's a lot of work that went into this.

>>102577141
Anon... she's already a ghost

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>>102577307
>>102577307

Was the news making her Deus ex streams weird?

>>102577330
Wrong tab

>>102577364
This shot was so fucking funny

>>102577499
Ame's camera work was great lol