Is she gonna speak up soon? will this be the end of Hololive?
>>102562618 (OP)She's right. Pekora cried in mengen. Ina's visa wasn't renewed. Luna's erasure from holofest posters. Cancelled projects and tournaments from Pekora/Marine/Miko. No holosummer live with unique outfits anymore. Terrible camera for holofest and sololives. Holostars using up the studio when hololive has important events to record.
It's the end of corporate vtuber agencies in general. People are waking up to their greed.
>>102562618 (OP)>retard mad she cant go backrumao
>>102562618 (OP)>will this be the end of Hololive?She's been of the company for nearly TRIPPLE the length she was actually in it at this point, so whatever info she has is probably irrelevant to how Holo inner works, work in the modern day
I'd sooner listen to Nimi than her ngl
>>102562969Not really no.
>>102562969>it's the end of corporate vtubersAnon, no one gives a fuck on the Hololive side of things.
>>102562618 (OP)>They made me a millionaire!>They let me do almost anything I wanted but they said "no" sometimes!>Do you know how exploitative and evil they are for telling me "no"!?!?!?Kson is a fucking moron by her own admission. If you're reading this Kson, just graduate, get off the internet and either stay off of it or kill yourself. You're a retard and a fucking idiot by your own admission. Stop talking like you think anyone should actually listen to you when you're too stupid to remember what you said earlier today about you being a dumbass.
>>102562618 (OP)>Takes a lump sump from vshojo to get poached>Do little shill stream for them where you publicly fellate them and declare there's no cons to joining them>Lose 99% of your audience and become a 3 view>Lose most of your paypigs>Don't get paid for an entire year, you'll likely never see the moneyShe didn't know how good she had it. All her ex colleagues are still printing money.
Let's see how much worse it can get for her.
>>102563058To be fair Fauna left for a legitimate good reason.
>>102562618 (OP)Isn't this structured like an actual schizo rant? I think the translation is fucked or miss kson needs stronger meds
>>102562618 (OP)But Hololive is the Corpo that made her big and famous...
>all if them are evil
she needs top be careful. she will unite holofags and phasefags. say what you want, but their groups are outliving the rest while kson flunked out of one and her other group imploded in on her
>doesn't say anything about phase
PHASEGODS.. HOW DO WE KEEP WINNING
>running her reputation into the ground just because vshojo imploded
What's her plan here, exactly?
>>102563389tbf no one says anything about phase
>>102562618 (OP)She is mad that she fucked up. She should have called out when she was not getting paid on time, not when a year passed without pay.
>>102562618 (OP)Hololive threw her under the bus for china. How do retards think hololive is a good corpo?
>>102563440>knows first hand that Hololive also sucks>not in the mood to see people aggressively suck their dick in her replies
>>102562618 (OP)Let's hope she was smart enough with her money. Oh, who am I kidding? She's a woman lol
>>102563440>running her reputationi highly doubt she cares what /vt/ thinks
>>102563463I don't think her word is worth anything anymore after the "cons none" stream, her schizo rant and only badmouthing vshojo when it benefits her.
She's just butthurt that she made some really stupid decisions.
>>102563230>To be fair Fauna left for a legitimate good reason.New rule: No boyfriend/husband.
"disagreement with management" graduation
>>102563570Anyone that was actually around in those days don't need to take her word for anything, Cover blatantly forced her out.
>>102563463tbf every shit will not happen if she apologies and moved on
>>102563463>Hololive threw her under the bus for chinaI'm glad to know the Hololive CN is alive and well despite being wholly invisible.
>>102563453This. She blindly believed in Vshojo's "freedom" that she ignored her paycheck
>>102562618 (OP)Kson, Dooby loves tinfoil hats, but she also loves Hololive despite what they did to her.
>>102562618 (OP)This reads more like a "I don't need to have you guys tell me that "X corpo is actually good", when I just got fucked in the ass by one I genuinely thought was good, and need to just vent" to me.
>>102563570>her wordNigger, we saw her being attacked in her own god damn chat by them. They also went after matsuri and fubuki
>>102562947Not saying the schizosisters are right, but Gura was also bitching a lot about Holo in member streams right before she left.
>>102563087i'm sure the talents who left (and their fans) care a bit
>>102563655Yeah after sacrificing their lamb, should maybe of done that before that.
>>102563737>I'm sure people who don't like Hololive carehuh?
>>102563389probably didn't say anything about it because it's where true talent freedom lies with the kind of unhinged shit that Pippa says in her steams.
>>102563737Don't look at exholos numbers after the Nimi thing.
>>102562618 (OP)If she keeps leaving places it tells you more about her then them.
>>102562618 (OP)She is just pissed at the randos keep mentioning other corpos when the one she shilled und put so much trust in just collapsed. Kson doesn't need another corpo and will do fine but if she doesn't see that some 100-150 ccv vtuber gladly let themself exploited by the blue dorito middleman and reap the benefits of it then she is just delusional
>>102562618 (OP)>Kson publicly shits on HololiveI don't see any "Hololive" there. She didn't even directly reply to any tweet mentioning Hololive either
>>102563832so uh we gonna ignore everyone else leaving the place or you just being retarded?
Karma is such a funny thing, Coco.
>>102562618 (OP)is Kson melting down again
>>102563198>actual meltythis is embarrassing, this is a hag.
>>102563389OP was about Phase, though
She's such a fucking womanbrained retard. hurr evil middlemen, except I would be a 1view without them. Glad she got scammed by Gunrun desu, hope all the grifting whores that left suffer similar fates.
>>102563849>She will be fineHer views have been in free fall for years. The only streams that do well are the coombait flesh streams.
I'm calling it here and now. We'll see her do onlyfans within a year.
>>102562618 (OP)Clearly Hololive isnt perfect and made stupid decisions before, that is how business works
Still their foundation seems solid to function well enough, like you know, a normal business, comparing to randomly exploding like this
I will recycle this to be about her shittalking Phasebeggars later on
>>102562947Wow middlemen scalpers suck.
Iwho would have thought. The Jews figured that out a long time ago.
>>102563866"Everyone else" didn't shit on Hololive, though. Even the worst-looking case just turned out to simply be "I want to announce my marriage" yesterday.
(To be fair, neither did Kson, OO can be anything)
>>102563578>New rule: No boyfriend/husband.lmao holobros are delusional
>>102562618 (OP)I dislike her voice and never watch her stuff regardless of what corpo she's with
>>102563851>I don't see any "Hololive" there. She didn't even directly reply to any tweet mentioning Hololive eitherIt's just schizos grasping at straws.
She's clearly just annoyed that every Dick and Tom keeps saying "X group is so much better" or "This would never happen at Y" when she just needs to vent about her frustrations of getting fucked over by a company she genuinely believed in.
>>102563937She said in 2024 that she was making $700K a year (presumably based on her income in 2023 unless she was lying on JP national TV and risking getting into issue with their tax agency for no reason). Unless she drops to 1/10th of what she once was in 2023, she will be fine
My poor retarded menhera. She thinks she can fight against the information warfare.
They memory holed her year of isolation before she graduated. But still, Korone has moments of rebellion and A-chan basically called them a soulless black company in her music video.
Everyone knows there's no good intentions from Cover towards hololive girls. But some fans feel like their oshi benefits from the status quo.
>>102564071Her own fault. She was not getting paid for months and she still went shilling Vshojo
>>102563983I think he meant everyone else leaving Vshojo.
>>102564157But OP was talking about Hololive
>>102563866nta, yes, those talents all retarded. Imagine being an indie and believing "talent freedom" and decided to join. Here's a tip for those retards, nothing is more free than being indie.
>>102564097She probably dropped to leas than 1/10 judging from her views and the fact she's having a literal fucking meltdown on Twitter right now
>>102563866this is the third time shes left a group 4th if counting leaving indie. Tells you a lot about her like an athlete who has been on 8 different teams.
>>102562618 (OP)tick tock corpodrones
kurolive is one black screen stream away from dying, if it's not kson, it will be eventually any other talent
>>102564183Yeah but I think anon meant that her leaving Vshojo says nothing about her, since everyone else did too.
>>102562618 (OP)Wow, she really just wants to burn every corpo to the ground. I think she's crashing out. Hololive can do good things but it's a corpo and corpos are a mixed bag usually. Don't lash out like a fucking bitch, act professional, oh wait you fucking can't.
>>102564192To play devil's advocate, though, the lack of money and connections create restrictions. It's like how living alone in an uninhabited island is probably the freest you can get but you won't be free to do everything you want to because of the lack of supports
>>102564115>Korone has moments of rebellionFuck off and die along with your greedy stupid 2 view whore of an oshi kson cuck.
>Company makes you a millionaire for nothing
>Gives you whatever you want in life
>You get retirement money that people work decades for all in one year
>Post shit like pic related
>"All they want from me is money! Greedy greedy greedy!"
Yeah I think you can go fuck yourself kekson
>>102563495Yeah hololive is going to implode any second now.
>>102563559>he doesn't want her to post more nudes
>>102564115>A-chan basically called them a soulless black company in her music video.I love these retards who don't know what a black company is, and just think it's any place that's not a constant joy to work at.
This is why all you sound retarded when you keep repeating "black company". Every single company runs on greed and evil
>>102564349>at gunpoint after she complained liveOK retard
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>>102564392>staff jealous she wasn't getting the same attention as talents
>>102562618 (OP)HOLY BASED
holopedos on fucking suicide watch
>>102563252Complaining about middlemen is always a signal.
>>102564417Spoken like a communist. The purpose of a company is to generate money. No company survives by being a charity whether their policies are good or bad.
>>102564392Not paying people is pretty much a telltale sign, no?
>>102564441>complained about thing>thing gets changed>retards like (You) start saying Hololive should burn to the ground and they all should leave RIGHT NOW>She has to remind retards that is not like that.Yeah, gunpoint...
>>102562947>Luna's erasure from holofest posters...and corrected themselves later on by advertising her face on every other promotion related to that particular Fes.
>No holosummer live with unique outfits anymore.Because they don't want to piss off YT and more fans after the total clusterfuck that was Adventure Holic.
>Cancelled projects and tournaments from Pekora/Marine/MikoI recall a few of them, but in the case of Marine, she legitimately doesn't want to host another tournament after she steamrolled everyone and everything that moved in the Puyotetris tournament. Pekora had to stood up for her because of the hate she received.
>Terrible camera for holofest and sololivesYeah can't excuse this one, monkey man or whatever his name is needs to be hanged.
>Holostars using up the studio when hololive has important events to record.I don't give a shit about the homos but on the particular subject of this OP, I do recall the opposite happening while Coco was graduating in where they couldn't use the studio because Yagoo had forced a free spot so she could use it. They've constantly hitting the back of their heels for too damn long.
REMEMBER:
everything comes to light eventually.
take care, friends.
>>102564527She's just butthurt because she left a company that paid her for a company that promised to pay her more.
And now she's having a twitter melty because she ain't doing so hot anymore and will have to change her lifestyle.
>>102563230DISAGREEMENT
WITH
MANAGEMENT
>>102564632Okay but hololive didn't pay a bunch of artists
>>102564527Not really. Plenty of companies are just incompetent in some places, and Cover would very much fall into that.
Seeing as nothing came of that and Cover payed up as soon as they found out, and every artist stuck their neck out for them, it actually shows the opposite of them being a bad company to work with.
>>102564353good call out post. This is all so exhaustingly performative to watch, honestly.
>>102564692>Lie after lie after lie
>>102564349>guys what's up with all the graduation's lately?>is cover ok?>*the next days management gives her the talk*>Guys! Holoearth is the greatest game of all time!!! Have you played it?!!
>>102562618 (OP)Is she ok? Since this whole thing started, she's been putting out crazy tweets that make it seem like she's gone insane.
>>102564353Funny if all Vshoujo fund was used up for poaching big name and Kson was one of them.
>>102564349https://x.com/k5r6n3/status/1945544313233875296
>>102564787>Cons: none>3 years later after she realizes she fucked up>TWITTER MELTY
>>102564858She is a woman. She believed in a company that didn't pay her for months (her own fault) and now she is mad
>>102564509Yes, they're inherently evil and it's dumb to split hairs. That's the point I was getting at
>>102563690Ame was Coco's wild card pick during the Myth auditions anon
If anything Ame would've sympathize with her more
>>102564858>Is she ok?No, she isn't. This was all she had left. She lost a ton of fans when she joined.
>>102564960>Making money is le bad
>>102564858She basically feel like she's been lying to a bunch of people because she got fooled herself.
>>102564880And those comments helped. Even if it's still shit after they "improved" it.
>>102562618 (OP)Kson is getting really close to becoming a bonafide lolcow. She needs to get off the internet.
>>102565006Exploiting others to make money is indeed bad you fucking retard.
>>102565042>Kson is getting really close to becoming a bonafide lolcow
I love schizo threads like these because everyone can just claim the most outlandish shit they want, and since this place is fueled on rrats, we never even have to back up anything we say.
>>102564599Aqua couldn't use the studio for her birthday live but holostars had a random 3d event just fine.
https://youtu.be/PGVJOouXrII
>>102564858She said it herself, she feels guilty for glazing Vshojo for over a year despite knowing just how shitty they treat their talents.
>>102565042Nah... she'd need to actually do something herself rather than get scammed and bullied repeatedly. She isn't nearly online as much as Chris chan and her deepest secrets aren't everywhere for people to gossip about.
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>>102564115>They memory holed her year of isolation before she graduatedThe reason people dogpiled against vshojo is because they have almost no people loyal to the brand. Holo, Niji or Phase on the other hand do, which is why people will always try to either defend abuse or mismanagement by saying something like "b-b-but this other corpo is worse" or simply ignore the clear signs, like
>>102562947People don't wanna admit they don't watch chuubas, they watch the corpo. That's why a lot of them go with MUH SEKRIT KNOWLEDGE when someone mentions their PL. And once they leave they don't follow their """oshi""" because their oshi IS the corpo.
>>102565073And the anon's
>>102564509 argument is that company generates money regardless if the company's policies are good or bad.
You say all companies are bad, not some.
>>102565073All companies exploit you, Even the goverment, how is your current job doing? Do You feel happy there? Are You having fun?
>>102564023>>102563578>no lore drops >must travel to japan for months, making family impossiblebasically the same for non JPs
>>102562618 (OP)Niji just feel like middle men. Other corpos feel like they provide some actual curation
>>102565073>Having employees is exploiting themlel
>>102565195That was a funny accident because they messed up with Luna and Rushia
>>102565174She is clearly a narcissist very similar to DarkSydePhil.
>>102565195>People don't wanna admit they watch the corpo>hey don't follow their """oshi""" because their oshi IS the corpo.That's how it works, yes
I don't understand why people seethe about curators in an age of mass slop media
Just teeth gnashing that anything rises out of the indie ocean.
>>102564599>and corrected themselves later on by advertising her face on every other promotion related to that particular Fes.That doesn't really give them an excuse to remove her in the first place. They still fucked up. And they did it twice. Now one can be a coincidence, twice is deliberate.
>>102565280>The company is nothing without me, they are stealing my money.
>>102565195It's always fun to see newfags bring up old shit that was resolved immediately, because they lack context and think it was some huge deal, and not a simply fuck up by an editor deleting the wrong character.
>>102565195Do you support hating all of the girls still in hololive? If you don't, you do not actually believe what you're saying right now.
>>102562618 (OP)>Her corpo gets exposedNO ALL CORPOS ARE BAD!!!
Yeah ok buddy
>Hololive
>Has money to roll for gacha horses
>Vshojo
>can't roll for gacha horses
>>102565195>People don't wanna admit they don't watch chuubas, they watch the corpoNo, people watch the group, if cover went under and the group remained then no one would bat an eye, but once you leave the group you lose a lot of the dynamcs you had + possibilities, that's what you fags don't seem to understand.
>y-you're defending the corpo!! what about the mel situation or taiwanAll of that has been explained time and time again but you prefer a rima evenstar video rather than looking for shit yourself, good luck
>>102565195>People don't wanna admit they don't watch chuubas, they watch the corpoYes! The vtubing space outside of Hololive is garbage and I don't interact with it. I'm 100% Hololive only. Outside of Hololive you get Vshojo, constant google doky drops, and "Little Lore Drop!". No thank you on all of that shit.
>>102565042I think she's actually psychotic
>>102565507She is a narcissist with a savior complex.
>>102564866They did. Kyo confirmed that they were doing that. They used it to poach people, needless luxury shit, and making a crappy backpack.
>>102565468This, pure damage control
>>102562618 (OP)Holo bros... we aren't like that
>>102564115>But some fans feel like their oshi benefits from the status quo.I just think the people in charge of the designs has better taste than any of the girls. Literally every ex-holo's new model has been a downgrade in terms of design, save Rei, Ruka and perhaps also Yuuki.
>>102565042You are so naive. She's a veteran and know this industry very well; She will have the last laugh.
>>102565481>No, people watch the groupTherefore, the corpo. They're are not sticking to their oshi, they're are sticking to your group (which in this case is, the corpo).
If you still wanna watch a group that has been involved in not-so-nice scenarios, by all means, go ahead, who am I to stop you? You are free to watch whatever you feel like. But don't start putting a holier-than-thou attitude if you are aware your group/corpo/whatever is involved in shady stuff.
Also
>implying I give dramafags any attention
>>102565752>She's a veteran and know this industry very wel>meanwhile the company she was shilling nonstop just imploded.
>>102565219>>102565073I feel bad for you guys, no wonder mutts become retarded commies
I love my job and I love my boss, he's done so much for me and treated me like a son. He paid all my mother's medical bills when I would have had to sell my home to pay them and he didnt even ask me to repay him ever.
I'm sure you'll have some reddit shmuckle about him buying my loyalty but I'd fucking take a bullet for my boss
>>102565824The jp branch had no problem
schizo rrat from the future here. Hololive will implode once HoloEarth flops. Holo will start to have shittier contracts for the talents because of that and a mass exodus will happen. Niji and Phase will out live hololive.
>>102565752>She's a veteran and know this industry very well>Cons: None
>>102562947you have nothing indiecuck, the fact that you have to name hololive members that have said they will never or do not have plans to graduate and are very much happy in hololive is enough, kson is a lunatic bitch with martyr and victim complex you have to be an anticorpo schizo to believe whatever she says at this point, no cons btw.
>>102565900I mean all of China attacked her, anon. That's billions of people. That'd give anyone a victim complex.
>>102563463>Close their entire chinese branch firing all the talents for shitting on her"Hololive threw her under the bus".
>>102565883>holo implodes with HoloEarth>a few niji males graduate and niji leaves the west because NijiEN turn into a complete lost cause>someone eventually drops a dockey on sakana and 0.6% become 0%>brave eats them all on a mass buyoutAll part of the plan
>>102565978Jesuschrist this is fucked up.
>>102565883>Hololive will implode once HoloEarth flops.Eh, at most they'll just pivot back to more traditional tech shit.
>>102565883Would probably happen if hololive depends on holoearth
But no
>>102565752>Majorly fuckup>Go indie>Get scammed instantly>Swear up and down you're an indie for life and will never join another company>Join another company on the literal day your legal agreement saying you can't expires>Surprise!>It's a scam company>Now you look like a retarded whore for relentlessly sucking the dick of a company that scammed you and others, even stealing charity money>Tweet that you're "so stupid" and that you "don't learn" in a big meltdown
>>102566288She should just shut up. Turn off X
>>102566288She's always been a hypocrite out for herself.
>>102566288>Talents holding hands and quitting together is the best way to tell the company "You should do better"I mean, she wasn't wrong on that one. It just so happened that EVERYONE left holding hands.
>>102565812Do you support hating all of the girls still in hololive? If you don't, you do not actually believe what you're saying right now.
>>102566288No one care. Kson is afraid of nothing. she went against China, first to quit hololive, has pornstars as guests, sponsored mikeneko into vshojo... you and your twitter friends will not topple her.
>>102566288If there's one thing I've learned from this it's that Cover was majorly tardwrangling Kson and she needs to go back in order to be protected from herself.
>>102565883>>102566094This is a message from the future.
Brave will inevitably die, so will every single indie and vtubing as a whole. Even Minecraft youtubers will be gone by 2038.
The only online entertainer left in 2050 will be DSP. He will also be the only form of life after 2045.
You can still prevent it by impregnating the person whose name i
>>102566421Oh shit. So Kson just so happened to use the exact thing that management wanted to use to lessen the damage to their image in her deflections on twitter? Some coincidence.
>>102564353It's still funny to me that she thinks she is worth a million a month.
>>102562618 (OP)>Hololive bad>VShojo good>sided with Michael CatWe've already seen that she's a poor judge of character.
>>102566495Let's see how long they keep holding hands.
>>102566495Why won't the hololive talents do that? Cover is a black corpo.
>>102566518I support the girls I like, not the corpo. Simple as that, wherever they go is irrelevant. I just follow them.
I couldn't care less about the corpo, in favor or against. But some people seem absolutely attached to the brand.
>>102566568Every single thing you said just proves she's a colossal retard with absolutely 0 ability to make good decisions. She's be remanded to conservatorship if she was sent back home to the USA.
Absolutely self-destructive, obstinate and wrong at every single juncture.
>>102562947You know I'm sick of this faggot shit. Being in a corporation means you must make concessions. Bitching that you can't do everything you want is retarded. Go indie if it's really what you want. Corpos bring benefits and of course it's no reason for them to undercut employees and steal from charity but this is the reality of working under someone else. IF YOU'RE SO FUCKING INCOMPOTENT YOU NEED HELP PRESSING "Go Live" ONCE A WEEK MAYBE YOU DESERVE THE "abuse"
>>102566288>join company>gain a huge fanbase because of it>quit>you are now an expert veteran vtuberyes, that's how it works, don't you know?
>>102562618 (OP)She is right BTW. If you love your oshi without worshipping the corpo she is in, you would agree with her.
>>102565483>constant google doky dropssure thing holokek we all know that Ceci raped biboo and the doc is going to be released soon by all the members against her very soon
>>102566862>I support the girls I likeWhy would you support the girls who support the corpo? You do not believe in taking down the corpo if you do not hate the girls that support it.
>>102562618 (OP)Should stay indie after graduate from Holo.
Her went to Vshojo make her credibility low.
>>102566785Nice one anon. Almost made me reply.
>>102562618 (OP)The lesson we learned today is to not let white women* into japanese hobbies
kson is westernized af, she counts as white
>>102563737Anon, they are quite literally paying for their oshis wedding
>>102566923I mean the main reason why Cover became so restrictive is because of her to begin with. Granted the Taiwan shit was such a major overreaction from the chinks, they didn't really restrict the girls freedoms cause of that.
That became a thing when Coco made a suicide forest gag with Kanata on Asacoco and management clamped down hard on everyone after that.
>>102567030Should learn English before shitpost on 4chan.
Your go to /vt/ make your skin brown.
>>102565900All of those talents are being threatened legally so they literally have to say they're staying forever.
>>102567004Biboo liked it though
If this speedruns the kickstart of her JAV career then I'm good.
>>102566907She has been doing fine so far. She was hololive top earner or second. One of the biggest indies in Japan. She's more successful than the vast majority of vtubers. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture.
>>102566288I stopped trusting on Kson's intelligence the moment she tried to saviourfag Mikeneko.
>>102565883>once HoloEarth flopsso the future is like 2 months ago?
>>102563937She already said she is not doing that because it will make her dad sad
>>102562618 (OP)She's so fucking cringe lol
>>102567242She still has more money than most of us will ever have.
>>102567255A lot of misplaced use of present tense here
She was many things before. The most she is now? A Yakuza character and a whore making out with Choco and JAV actresses.
>>102567275There's people who take her actions as proof that Mikeneko did nothing wrong and is just disliked by evil vtuber antis for no reason at all. Some ledditors believe this to this very day.
>>102562618 (OP)She mad because they told her the truth.
>>1025640971/10 of that is 70k. She can certainly live on that but she cannot do projects for fans.
>>102567312>She already said she is not doing that because it will make her dad sadshe also said she wasn't joining a corpo
>>102566923No dude if I join a company they should let me do whatever I want and pay me the BIG BUCKS for it and I never have to listen to them or do anything ever
These women probably only ever worked at fucking McDonalds before and I bet they weren't even good at it
>>102566923Holy meltdown, you ok there, corpocuck?
>>102564097Her deal with Sega was already above 100k
>>102567494To be fair, she didn't join them because that would imply she's a paid employee instead of doing them favours for free
>>102567026I can't believe I get to use this pic here.
I like the girls, don't care about the corpo (unless they mess with the girls I watch, I'll give you that). Simple as.
Some people are obsessed on being tribalfags for some reason. If the corpo does good, you just gotta point the good things, if the corpo does shitty moves then you point them as well, that's all.
>>102567312>believing a woman who says she won't do $THING when it would benefit her>AND spite her fatheryea, she's spreading em on OF soon
>>102566593the only reason why cover is still around is because they're way better at tardwrangling these girls than their competitors.
The issue is, she didn't say anything remotely substantive in this most. It reads more like a meltdown (due to the, you know, other big issue) than anything with any amount of weight to it.
Something like a "Kson feels betrayed from VShojo, madly lashes out at everyone" sort of thing.
>>102567551touche
She's the shojo janny, she does it for free.
>>102567615Their hiring process filters out most of the troublesome types, that's why most Holos are actual losers with enough mental illnesses to be called cute but not enough to be called menhera
>>102562618 (OP)TOTAL INDIE VICTORY
>>102567615Also their main competitors are cartoonishly evil. Cover at its worst interpretation is very incompetent, but not actively malicious.
>>102567699/lig/ and /big/ are eating well tonight.
It's been 4 years and Coco is sitll malding she let the chance of her life slip. Enjoy being indie LMFAO
>>102567695Explains why Cover Corp refused to keep KSon on as backstage management.
>>102567760Lore drop isn't even 24 hours old
>>102567755>N-nah!! My beloved corpo is not evil! Just retarded!!This cope is laughable at this point.
>>102563463>Hololive threw her under the bus for china???
Holo basically terminated about 6 talents in HoloCN, removed themselves from the Chinese for multiple years, endured mass sub/view loss because they told all the chinks upset with Coco to beat it, and several Holos (Haachama, Flare, Fubuki, Suisei, Mori, etc) put themselves in the chinks ire as sign of solidarity
And you wanna she repaid them? By quitting a few months later and running their biggest rival (at the time) in the west and spending waxing poetic about how they allowed her "Freedom" kek
>>102565883Phase could be the last vtubing company on the planet and 85% of the company would still be 3 views.
>>102567152>Coco made a suicide forest gag with Kanata on Asacocolink please
>>102567655She interviewed the ceo of vshojo Japan live on stream. She did more than most.
>>102567807She has problems following orders and wants to be her own boss. Doesn't work well with other authorities
>>102567945Cover realized what would happen if they like CN win in this battle and cut ties before the chinese infection took deeper root. It's a smart business move, but then they realized what the long term cost was and got out ebfore they fully succumbed like NBA and Hollywood did.
It wasn't anything special about KSON, literally anything can set off the chink swarm. It just happened to start with the word Taiwan in Cover's case.
>>102567152There was something Coco did and she herself admitted it which was asking management for permission to do something (activity, video, whatever) then doing something else entirely.
This got into management's nerves and they decided to become much more restrictive, which ended up also affecting the newborn side branched called Hololive English.
>>102568062Yea, KSon is every obnoxious Tiktok girlboss being a cunt to the camera and thinking they come off well to on-lookers.
>>102565883holoearth was a trult bewildering mistep
an obviously terrible idea from the start that was always going to flop
I guess it was an attempt to bring minecraft streams in house?
But that's so many resources and ENReco proved it's unnecessary
>>102565144Aqua didn't book the studio in time, that's not anyone's fault but her own.
>>102568062why didn't she stay indie
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>>102568082>It just happened to start with the word Taiwan in Cover's case.And it wasn't even spoken out loud by anyone. Google analytics simply showed Taiwan as being separately calculated from China.
Literal SCP-096 moment.
>>102562618 (OP)The graduation gauntlet and the fact that Japanese companies are notoriously shit in general should have tipped people about it but in the vtuber scene it's expected of you to worship a company like people did for video game console wars back then for some reason. She isn't wrong, even if you don't personally like her or her content doesn't magically make her wrong either. Companies are NOT employee-first and they never will be, especially not big ones like cover and anycolor.
>>102567556>I can't believe I get to use this pic here.Your retarded image doesn't apply in any way here. You're saying you like pancakes but hate the plate they're served on and your actions show that you will fight anyone that likes their pancakes on a plate.
>I like the girlsYou don't because you hate it when they're together as a group.
>don't care about the corpoYou begin to hallucinate about the corpo being there when all of the girls are together as evidenced by your earlier post, but maybe it's true that you don't care and you actually just hate the girls being together. You just refer to them as "the corpo" to justify your attacks against them.
>Some people are obsessed on being tribalfags for some reason.You're hellbent on shitting anyone that likes anything hololive. Nobody is allowed to say they like hololive when you're around because you're tribal and HATE hololive.
>If the corpo does good, you just gotta point the good thingsLet's see you do it then.
>>102568205She's an american woman with asian girl sensibilities.
A jew would be disgusted with their obsession with status and money.
>>102568353Concession accepted.
>>102567312She said a lot of positive things about vshojo too
>>102567945She think she's bigger than a company then reality kicked in.
She couldn't admit it so she joined their biggest rival (at the time) in the west to beat Hololive. She even tried to invade Japanese market and played savior to Rushia to spite Holo . Her past actions are nothing but hostile to Holo.
>>102565812>therefore, the corpoYou're wrong. Fubuki even talked about this when she talked about making her song, which people like you claimed was her bootlicking and pledging herself to the company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppKPaPKlQ3Q
It's not a song about hololive or Cover, but about the other girls and the fans there. Hololive is not Cover, but the talent. The other anon is correct. If all of them went somewhere else together and stayed together, then no one would mind and every one of their fans would follow.
You don't understand this because you're an autistic soulless husk and have never once felt loyalty or commitment or love towards anyone other than yourself.
>>102568141Shes way too westernized
It took you this long to notice this bitch is completely mental?
>>102568604The girls are the corpo. You should hate them. They become good the moment they leave.
>>102562947>Holostars using up the studio when hololive has important events to record.LMAO
>>102568606>self-proclaimed groupie who hung around music venues in George (state which houses Atlanta)More miles of rapper cock have gone through KSON than there are miles of highway in the USA. Her attitude kinda proves it.
>>102568061I'm talking about this tweet about Hololive, not her black screen stream on VShojo.
>>102564213You do know Vshojo wasn't her only income right
>>102562947>>102565195redbull me on Luna stuff, literally never heard anything controversial from her, closest thing is her becoming uncomfortable with Matsuri, but really a lot of people get weirded out by her behavior. What did she even do that she taken out of the poster.
>>102562947>Holostars using up the studio when hololive has important events to record.NOOOO why is this EVIL GREEDY CORPO not completely choking out the least popular branch that doesn't bring in any money?
>>102568831Someone made a small error on a graphic and schizos spun up the rrat breeding program
>>102562947I almost believed this until i remembered the Luna shit was like 2-3 years ago.
Because Vshojo is still a west company, while cover is already chinked. Look at all of these zhangs dogpiling on Kson when they got the chance
>>102568831People suspected Cover intend to remove Rushia from the poster but the one doing it mistook Luna for her.
>>102569089They are both pink
>>102562618 (OP)She's butthurt LMAO.
>>102565006It’s hypocritical to pursue money above all else and then get mad when YOU get screwed over by someone else doing the same thing.
>>102568148Nope. That's all on management. How come the studio is not free for an annual birthday event that everybody very well knew is comming at a set date?
Aaaah but the studio was magically free for a random 3D event for holostars, curious.
>>102569234Not that important if Aqua can't be bothered to reserve it in advance.
>>102568831It's the one picture here
>>102565195It was so bad that Luna has obviously wanted to graduate ever since but the evil black corp uses legal threats to stop her from leaving.
>>102569031It was 3 years ago so it doesn't count?
So is she going to say anything like Ironmouse or is she just going vague post while having a melty?
>>102569085who are you talking to?
the sour grapes, maybe she shouldn't have been a retard and incinerated her golden ticket
>>102563463>>102563747hololiveCN was closed like a year before coco even left you retarded fucking brownoid tourist.
>>102569320>is she just going vague post while having a meltyit's called a woman moment and that's her entire brand
>>102569234Why are you acting as if the homos walked into an empty unreserved studio that day and just did whatever they wanted with it? They had reserved it like everyone else.
>>102569320She just wants to have a melty she knows it'll drum up more views for her borderline E-Whore streams
>>102569234>comming at a set datebirthdays arent recorded at the same time every year some are recorded many months in advance
>>102568944Good job misrepresenting the argument retarded discordfag. The key words your retarded brain missed is "important events to record"
Yeah fuck it lets just ignore hololive completely and record some useless stuff with holostars why not
>>102569193They are in the same position when mirrored. someone misstook left for right.
She can shit on Hololive all she wants. It's still better than the Vshojo she bent her back for lmao.
>bitching about kson personality
You are exposing yourself too much, zhang
>>102568265Can't believe anon shit on that schizo so hard he became a retard and a mute at the same time. LMAO
>>102569377>incinerated her golden ticketshe thought being an indie was the real golden ticket, she thought they would all stay with her and support her the same if not better as an indie and she wouldnt need to pay the "corpo tax"
>>102562618 (OP)Where did she explicitly say Hololive and not just corpos in general?
Proof next thread?
Stop pretending you are holofag. You are ching chong who is still seething about her to this day
>hmmm, should I consider for a moment that I am in the wrong and am acting in a way that is not ideal for me and those around me?
>NO, IT'S YAGOO WHO IS WRONG
I can't believe it took me so long to see the light. KSon is the Pirate Software of vtubing.
>>102563463>Hololive threw her under the bus for ChinaMultiple talents lost a huge chunk of their market just because they stood in solidarity with her, especially Fubuki and Aqua.
Stop spouting bullshit.
>holofags are acting like chink now
Glad Gura and Mumei are off this ship
>>102567500Retards that sucking dramatuber dick believe this btw, not even redditor believe this.
>>102567998was this just made up
>>102569466Important events such as?
>>102566945The Doki method
>>102569595>KSon is the Pirate Software of vtubing.Except she actually did meaningful things, before and after graduation. Her entire career doesn't hinge upon being a nepobaby that twiddled her thumbs and then glorifying it as years of real experience.
>>102569293Nope. She always booked it in advance. It was on management for fucking it up.
>>102569396No one reserves a random 3d with no event months in advance. That's just managements blatant favouritism.
>>102569450>many months in advanceThat is not true. A few weeks to a month usually these days. Back then they were closer to the actual date.
>>102562618 (OP)Why did she shit talk about phase?
>>102569595>KSon is the Pirate Software of vtubing.Not really. Kson is legit and never did any wrong to anyone.
>>102569716Birthday and anniversary lives? Go back tranny tourist.
You made her a martyr against the chink causing her to leave Hololive, but now you all threw her under the bus. Talk about being ungrateful
>>102569855Good thing I never said it was reserved months in advance then? It was still reserved by them in advance and they didn't just walk into an empty unreserved studio that was meant to be used by Aqua that day.
>>102569689Coco always had people that disliked her long before Taiwan.
>>102569933How are you going to record those without a reservation, troonicorn?
>>102564664>Doesn't want to travel to japan because of marriage into childbirthSeem reasonable to leave
>>102570005Oh hey, that's me!
>>102565195>People don't wanna admit they don't watch chuubas, they watch the corpo.I mean, yeah?
I like the girls themselves but pretending like the culture the corpo itself cultivate and the girls both integrate and help propagate is undeniable beneficial to all parties in delusional
The vtubing world outside of Holo is a barren wasteland where the thing happens are constant deluge of drama, scandals and exposes. And even ex-holos are immune from it, Kson is a shell of former herself, Mikeneko is a disgrace, Nimi hasn't even gone a full year yet and she's already married and possibly pregnant with some dude's child, fuck that shit lmao
>>102570057The corpo culture is literal cancer. If you don't watch kson you're a chink.
>>102569899It's funny. There's just as much evidence she's shitting on Phase as there is about her shitting on Hololive.
Absolutely fuck all.
>>102569965Retard-kun, if it wasn't reserved months in advance then how come could they book it if Aqua who tried reserving months in advance couldn't?
>>102570110>If you don't watch kson you're a chink.thats not how it works friendo
>>102570141>Aqua who tried reserving months in advanceBut she didn't.
>>102570018How are you going to reserve it if malicious tranny management says no?
>>102570226you pick a different date?
>>102570226How are you coming up with this shit?
>>102568148amazing how EVERY SINGLE graduating member totally just had a booking mishap that meant there was no way they could at any point record, in the MONTHS between when they decided to leave and when they actually left
>>102570348Amazing how every single graduated member left because they didn't had time at the studio
>>102570186>not even a clipwatcherMaybe at least watch the fucking clip that has been translated so that your tranny EOP brain can comprehend it?
She tried reserving since october at least for a birthday in december.
Why are you fucking defending management so hard here?
>>102570057I just realized that the only ex-holos I enjoy watching are the ones carefully managing their brand.
>>102569855NTA but
>No one reserves a random 3d with no event months in advance.My oshi (who I won't name) got fucked over due trying reserve the studio too late, so she started putting reservation nearly an entire year ahead of time hasn't had any issue since
>>102562618 (OP)I... am actually shocked that people are taking this tweet seriously.
Was the tinfoil hat not enough to tip you guys off?
>>102570289Yeah and she did? Her birthday was supposed to happen in december but got pushed back to next year and then management just canceled it anyways because of another made up reason
>>102570477Post it. Also the most insane thing to me is that you're seething about holostars who had an actual 3D livestream at the studio on that day while whining about Aqua not being able to have 3D live which would be pre-recorded.
>>102570477>since october at least for a birthday in december.>2 months noticeim shocked they couldnt fit her in
>>102570325I'm watching streams unlike you.
>>102570348>amazing how EVERY SINGLE graduating member totally just had a booking mishapLiterally every single member IN Hololive right now has had booking mishap
Idk you're limiting to JUST graduated members to push this rrat when it happens to basically everyone unilaterally and several of the graduate members (like Ame or Fauna) quite literally didn't care about doing shit in 3D
>>102570681But you're not.
>>102570558Random 3d retard random 3d
Your oshi books anniversaries and birthdays
>>102570659>not even a thread readerScroll up and read the thread retard. It was posted already how did you miss it if you are replying? Dumb EOP
>>102562618 (OP)Which one is the most entertaining now?
1.watching Vshitshow gone to shit
2. watching Kson complete falling from grace
3. watching Nimicucks ranting and crying
>>102566593>>102567615Don't make me tap the sign
>>102569595Lmao yeah. It's not that she's necessarily wrong but that constant need for validation to prove she was right and keep tripling down is the same energy.
>>102570883You still haven't explained why you're seething about holostars who have literally nothing to do with her birthday not being possible on that day.
>>102568205>why didn't she stay indieProbably same reason why most other big indies joined, they probably figured letting Vshojo handle logical shit for them like merch sales was easier than doing it themselves
>>102569855There has never been a "random 3D" stream from homos. You don't even know the details of the retarded rrat you're spewing. The homo the Aquafag always blamed was Astel, because his anniversary is a few days after Aqua's birthday, so it MUST have been his fault according to the schizo.
>>102570675So holostars who didn't reserve the studio months in advance could be fit in, but Aqua who reserved it 2 months in advance couldn't. Curious.
>>102570714I'm mainly talking about Mumei explicitly trying multiple times asking for any time at any point over the course of many months and being told no, there weren't any slots
any mysteriously they could never be bothered to make her 3d goth model, even 18 months later they never gave her her 1 million subs gift
I'm sure that's her fault too
>>102570744What's the point of comming here you retarded tourist? You have no idea what you are talking about and projecting your dumbass onto others. If I didn't watch streams how would I know all those things you don't have an idea about? Think, tourist, think.
Women need to be put on a leash to be entertaining and Cover is the only one that does that satisfactorily. I will never watch non holo streams.
>>102571503Pekora cried and will graduate from hololive tomorrow. Us stream watches know this is true, don't we?
>>102571172They had a random ass 3d stream around that time which means they used the studio.
>>102571071It was explained very clearly. Maybe your IQ to low?
>>102571584They were in the studio on the exact day of Aqua's birthday which wouldn't have been a day for recording the 3D live. Why are you booty blasted over this when they're not related at all?
>>102571576Exactly! You finally got it, mr strawman!
>>102570477>Since OctoberThat's genuinely too late. Sorry you can't accept Aqua made a mistake but talents have to secure the studio more than 2 months in advance, including homos. If they want to have a 3D live they have to start planning it at least half a year in advance.
>>102571646No it wasn't. How the fuck does a 3D livestream prevent a pre-recorded 3D live from happening? You're literally too stupid to live.
>>102571696So you're just full of shit and have zero substance.
>>102565339>Hey for the holofes poster management said to remove Ru-chan, can you quickly do that? The final design needs to go out this afternoon>Sure thing boss! [removes Runa] ...aaand done.
>>102571653That is the problem faggot
Why not make some 3D stream with her? On her birthday? Invite other holomen? That's the problem.
>>102570110>If you don't watch kson you're a chink.I basically swore loyally Coco during that Taiwan shit, I'd tear into Cover every time they slightly mismanaged her, I unironically cried real tears when she graduated and choose to follow her career as Kson
I got paid for my loyally by getting to see her run to Vshojo, suck their dicks dry over "Talent freedom" and then devolve into a generic e-thot
That was one of the incidents where that made come to a realization that 95% of vtubers outside of Hololive, even ex-holos themselves; are totally worthless
Call me a "holodrone" but I'll never forget watching the great Kiryu Coco become an Amouranth rip-off that build gunpla sometimes
>>102571708If Cover isn't ready to move any homostar reservations for hololive ones they're just a greedy black corpo.
>>102571864You're fucking retarded. Did YOU watch your own clip? It's quite clear you didn't because if you did you would know why.
>>102571584No they didn't. The only other homo 3D stream in December of that year was Uproar's collab 3D after their 3D debuts, something that would have been planned and scheduled months in advance. And it wasn't even on Aqua's birthday. Cope.
>>102571708No, that isn't the case at all. 2 months was more than enough for them to book the studio for her birthday live. Now give the source for your claim that studio needed to be booked at least 6 months in advance from that time period. I'm really curious where did you get that info (cause it's bullshit)
>>102565883HoloEarth has been a long time flop, but at least now they have a bunch of back up like the HoloIndie publishing, Hololive TCG and the upcoming Hololive rhythm game.
>>102563578lmao you have no fucking clue
It seems true that not all husbands are willing to move to Japan though
>>102571877>the great Kiryu Coco become an Amouranth rip-off that build gunpla sometimesI'll call you a gullible newfag rather than a "holodrone" given her return to being a low-tier titty streamer chat streamer was entirely predictable and in fact the reason her holocontent was utterly dogshit for the most part. inb4 >MUH ZATSUQUEEN
>>102567998>>102569705No it's real
Shit like this is what made Cover draw a line in the sand
>>102572005Why do you keep talking as if she needed the studio reserved for the exact day of her birthday and only for that one day?
>>102572001But this anon claims they had a 3d stream on the day of her birthday
>>102571653So which is true
>>102572084you can't just post this without context
>>102572137Now does that 3D stream somehow block a pre-recorded 3D live?
>>102571807You have no counter for management being evil. You have no substance. I provided just a few examples of things that happened in hololive that point to a malicious management. You got only personal offenses
>>102571516To expand on this, I think the overall vtuber culture has warped into something undesirable. I'm not here for virtual streamers, I'm here for virtual Idols. I don't care about random women doing women things. I'm interested in the Idol Journey. The story that the Idol crafts through her career with her fan base and her fellow Idols. The Idol's character is important and preserved. She shares her triumphs and hardships with her fans. She struggles and overcomes challenges and the joy of rising to the occasion is shared with the fans. Cover is the only company that I have seen that remains cleaved to these ideals and so they are the only vtuber group that's worth watching.
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>>102571723One studio. If holostars use it, hololive cannot use it. You understand?
>>102572240You watch streams so explain the significance of Pekora crying. Is she leaving tomorrow, stream watcher CHAD?
>>102572293Do you not undertand that a pre-recorded live makes use of the studio on days previous to the day that the live is actually aired?
>>102572005Pic related, and also straight from Astel's mouth. Who by the way, shares his birthday and anniversary with Watame and Mio respectively, and none of them have ever had any problems overlapping their celebrations or booking the studio for them. Curious.
>>102571935I have no idea what you're talking about.
>>102572137They didn't. You can literally look it up yourself on holodex.
>>102572432Of course you don't because you have no idea what actually happened.
>>102562618 (OP)Go scissor some random bitch while you rub it into my face, retarded dyke “who needs no man in her life btw”
>>102572390So Aqua was sabotaged. I don't see any other way of interpreting this. That's why she quit. Management didnt make problems for watame or mio but when aqua asked they said no. And you are defending them because? Also that screenshot does not apply to birthday lives from 2022 but 2023 onwards so you are wrong.
>>102572166Now was aqua denied 3d live?
>>102572364Yes and how does this change the fact that aqua was denied the studio?
>>102572164>you can't just post this without context>https://youtu.be/lo_vWJvoFzE?t=1117I mean, the context is basically what the other anon said
The original version of Asacoco used to have skits in-between the news segments and one those skits was a joke about Kanata hanging in Aokigahara forest (she was actually supposed to be dead tho, just stuck )
This was the type of shit that Management really start to clamp down on what talent where allowed to do with no oversight
She even wind up having to apologize
>https://x.com/kiryucoco/status/1267388517946060801
>>102572720No? She just had to delay it. If the holostars 3D stream was cancelled would it have happened on that day?
>>102562947All of this seemed plausible until bitching about homos. Them fuckers get fucked over left and right and constantly have 3Ds cancelled because they couldn't book in time. You fuckers are obsessed. "Something bad is happening how do I make this about the homos!" He screams as the girls get their second dodgers collab and plenty of well deserved opportunities. They get fucked over too, but lets not pretend failing to book the studio in advance is the worse thing that happens to these girls.
>>102572516But you do? You were there! Tell us! What happened anon?
>>102572779Don't move the goalpost now. You claimed she was denied studio in favor of homos and that she would have had her live if not for them.
>>102572828Delay it? Now can you link me that live? I'm curious
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>>102562618 (OP)We tried to warn you
>>102572852She was planning a pre-recorded live. You do realize that you don't magically just turn one of those into a livestream?
>>102572931Yes? These faggots had a random 3d stream around that time.
>>102572939It didn't end up happening because she gave up. How does any of this relate to a single holostars 3D stream?
>>102573006Yes she was. Like she did every single year anon. But this time management said no.
>>102573038So you don't understand how pre-recorded lives work. Why did you say you do when you actually don't?
>>102573038There was no random 3D stream, we've been over this.
>>102570586If you think people on 4chan, let alone /vt/, has any sort of fucking social reading skills, I've got a bridge to sell you.
And that's completely ignoring the people who deliberately choose to take it seriously, either because they have an axe to grind, or just for the lulz.
>>102573086Oh great! Soit didnt get delayed. It didnt even happen! Not much chouce otber than guve up when management says no. What was she supposed to do? Barge in with a tank and force them to record at gunpoint? Retard.
>>102573144Now what does this have to do with holostars and Cover being greedy? Reminder that you're supposed to be supporting kson's statement with all of this seethe.
>>102572661>Get proven wrong>Aqua was sabotaged!Just take your meds and go outside.
>>102573275Check out the archives. They made it into a video
>>102573298Why can't you explain how some homo 3D steam is related to any of this?
>>102573171You seem to not understand that the time they spent recording the random 3d homo thing could have been used to record aqua's birthday
How many times do i have to tell you Anon, all corpos are shit.
>>102573334Not greedy. Malicious. You can't even remember the argument huh? Retard.
Imagine going through schizo meltdowns, daily streams, unpaid promotions, burnouts, to make 1/10th of lazy Ayame
>>102573441>the time they spent recording the random 3d homo thingThey didn't do that because it was a livestream.
>>102573363>gets proven wrong>claims the other party got proven wrongAre you from cover perhaps?
>this thread is now a homo thread
:/
>>102573527>You can't even remember the argument huh? Retard.lmao the fucking irony
>>102568944You slipping in "malicious" at some point and pretending it was about that doesn't make it so.
>>102562618 (OP)man, this bitch really is fucking retarded huh. how far the mighty have fallen.
>>102573781Literally look at the OP you dumb clown
The irony...
>>102573682>No it wasn'tProve it then. Link it and prove that whatever they recorded erased Aqua's reservations.
>>102573828The word malicious is not anywhere in the OP.
>>102573927Evil is which is a synonym you petty clown
>>102567945You are having a stroke go to hospital you fucking retard
>>102573969Kson is calling them evil and greedy, just like I did sarcastically. You failed to disprove this.
>>102573665/vt/ needs to constantly shit on homos or else they're like a man without water in the desert.
>>102574037What you call them sarcastically is irrelevant. She didnt. She meant it.
>>102574098And holostars getting studio time is the complete opposite of greed, retard.
>>102565577Usual startup scam bull shit. I’m not surprised.
>>102562618 (OP)You're completely right Kson. She speak like a true leftist American.
Don't you join another company or establish your own ever.
>>102574160She called them evil and denying aqua her birthday live is exactly that you retard
>>102572530>>102570894>>102569377>>102569208>>102567435>kson makes an obvious joke tweet>everyone starts squirming like snails at the one they threw salt atthe collective retardation is impressive.
What the fuck does Kson even know about hololive?
>>102574215Why are you moving the goalpost again? Link the holostars 3D thats responsible for Aqua not getting a birthday live.
>>102574160She didnt even call them greedy. This is something you slipped kinda like you projected me doing it kek
>>102573781Clown.
>>102574271He won't because there is none.
>>102574271I'm just directly rebutting your dumb claims.
>>102574300>She didnt even call them greedy.Yes she did
>>102563198