White Woman Jumpscare Edition
Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.
Keep things comfy, etc.
Image source: https://twitter.com/RedPaletteArt/status/1947665007388336343
/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya
Related:
/999/ + /็ท้ท/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion
Previous thread:
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>>102566823>>102566948Henya is already UTA. My guess is that she and Kson are just going to share their manager and remain indie.
>>102566948I assume most if not all the girls will treat corpos or agencies as something radioactive at least for a short little while. I'm sure they'll make some kind of group (like literally just a group) or something of the sort though
you wouldn't last even a day as a Vtuber's CEO
>>102566989Wonder what that's about. I'm guessing just feeling bad cause she's close to most of VShojo and not any direct involvement
>>102567068Where's the money, Gunrun?
>>102567068Nobody really does huh?
>>102567068Where's the money, Gunrun?
>>102566989Saiiren is a sweetheart. She's always supporting everyone.
Hime grandpa is live with ominous stream title, is he also about to drop some tea?
>>102567068Hey, it may not be easy but it's possible when you have an actual business plan that produces cash flow to keep the company afloat, rather than embezzling.
So who make the first giant ex vshojo collab? My money is on Mata
https://files.catbox.moe/2h0pgf.webm
>>102567184Crab Game time
>>102567068GET OUT OF CUBA AND TELL US WHERE THE MONEY IS FAG. I HOPE THEY SEND B2s AND DROP A BOMB ON YOU FOR MAKING THE TEA POT CRY
>>102567159>ominous>What a day huh. Let's Catch UpI want to know how much Vshojo owes Hime.
>>102567012He has his work cut out for him. There are so many testimonies that you could have a good hour or two
>>102567068WHERE'S THE FUCKING MONEY YOU RAT
>>102567184probably mouse, she dropped the hammer
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>>102567184Mata has been quiet, hopefully she's in mom duty with comforting the girls
>>102567254not much. she barely streams.
>>102567184Mata, Mouse or Geega.
Also do you have the original of that image, without Mata's hair?
>>102567184Mouse for Minecraft or Michi for subathon
Gigguk is online. I wonder if he's gonna weigh in on Hime Hajime.
>>102567068Where's the money?
>>102567325it's not the stream but on the merch side of things
>>1025672541.2 million USD is owed to Hime for her contributions.
never liked giant collabs eitherway
>>102567308She's on a emotional break
>I am an emotional woman and I want to make sure I don't accidentally say ANYTHING that could be misinterpreted or twisted and posted online! ( or even court wise )
>>102567325Too busy sucking Garnt's ccok.
>>102567218It all started with that fucking smile
>>102567388She hasn't said anything yet, just prepping for the conversation
>>102566989If they approached her too, then practically every /in/ post was true. If I really wanted to wear my tinfoil hat, were the /in/ posters vshojo members trying to gauge opinion on what talents to add? That's a wild rrat
>>102567349thank fuck, no plans today means no drama
>>102567349>GiggukPeople still care about that dude? It's not 2019 anymore bro.
>>102567349>>102567254>>102567159I've somehow managed to never watch him, but I am momentarily curious. Does he stream on YouTube, Twitch or somewhere else?
>>102567489>He doesn't know
Man, I have to do a full clean up of all the vshojo things, gotta update some pics too
>>102567184I wish they could make an open call thing
December 2025. VR Chat. Every single ex-vsj will be there. They will talk. Cap this.
>>102567396so she's behind the scenes and just helping out what she can, good to hear
>>102567068I wouldn't even last one millisecond, because no way in hell I would've been a CEO, fuck that. Too much responsibility with barely any payoff.
>>102567388boring shit trying to cash in on the drama that sheโs not involved in to try and save her dead streaming career
>>102567331No I found it here but I bet if you type the text it might pop up
>>102567489He's Hime's husband/ "grandfather", which is the only reason to bring him up.
>>102567505streams on twitch. Gigguk.
If you want your drama fix then Saii is live. Gigguk will also probably touch on it though how much remains to be seen.
Anyway Mint update
>>102567489One of those days
>>102567022Freaky ass manager Iโm seething
>>102567489Garnet is a friend of the show.
>>102567349I don't like any of the trash taste trio.
>>102567554calm down mtd, i'd leave the country if i were you
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>>102567582>If you want your drama fix then Saii is live.False is also live.
>>102566738i would really hate that. i'd stop watching her.
>>102567068Did you really let Apek run it into the ground, he wasnโt even that good at CS
>>102567635Oh I meant potentially new stuff since I imagine False will only be recapping. But if you've missed anything yes that's also an option
Should Mousey be worried about legal retaliation from Gunrun for crashing his company overnight?
>>102567648shes gonna be devastated about that
>>102567619if you think saiiren of all people has anything interesting to say in this ive got a dead corp to sell you
>>102567572I asked because I tried that and got nothin'. Thanks for answering though.
>>102567696Not even a little bit. I guarantee you Mouse has receipts.
>>102567725Give me a moment Iโll try and find it
>>102567671i'm sure he made sure Mel was fully paid up before the other girls
>>102567738But what if Gunrun has receipts...
>>102567696Gunrun is flat broke. Or will be, pretty soon. Either way she has nothing to worry about.
>>102567696Lmao no, he can't afford to sue anyone. There's a reason Nyanners and Vei are going full mask off despite still being under NDA, they have no fear because this fucker bankrupted himself and cannot afford to go after all of the talents if they maintain a united front. He'd get absolutely roasted in court.
>>102567721saiiren is hotter than froot though, she wins.
I was wondering why Saii was so invested in this outside of the obvious being that her friends are involved, but yeah I totally forgot about this. She put a LOT of effort into Mouse's subathon to help raise the money, and none of it got donated.
>>102567775then its gonna be spicy. popcorn time
>>102567696Everything Mouse said was run by a lawyer. They only let her say things they feel confident on.
>>102567725Found it turns out I had it in a different folder
>>102567738>receipts.this isn't a sassy call out on x. it's a lawsuit
>>102567554Meat this isnโt your thread
>>102567773Boy you are really trying to fuck this chicken.
What would be the biggest plot twist of all time
I like FaseEyeD, he's a nice guy, and he provides invaluable content.
>>102567812Oh, I remember her making a custom controller on stream.
>>102567775Quite literally a single receipt is all that matters. A donation to the IDF in the amount required with a timestamp on it. If that existed it would have 100% been presented by now lol.
Also Sushi live I imagine she'll touch on it if anyone wants something
Sushidoggu live.
No idea if she's going to talk about anything. Probably not.
>>102567838Lawsuits require money and Gunrun doesn't have any. Not to mention he is looking at CRIMINAL CHARGES if he doesn't flee the fucking country.
>>102567805shes not and has the personality of wet bread. no amount of hotness can fix that empty shell
>>102567838Lawsuits sometimes include receipts as evidence.
>>102567830Blessed delivery, Anonymous. Thank you.
>>102567853Gunrun showing a video of all the owed money spontaneously combusting
>>102567872false needs to get the niji shaped stick out his ass and hell be fine
>>102567872>he's a nice guydo you really believe that?
>>102567872he recaps reddit threads in an idiotic tiktok voice
>>102567812Yeah, no... that'd do it.
>>102567687>if you've missed anythingThere have been so many people talking about it today, who wouldn't miss stuff
>>102567853ironmouse was gunrun the whole time
>>102567805https://www.twitch.tv/saiiren/clip/AthleticAwkwardBatKAPOW?lang=da
I think Froot's hotter but that's just me.
>>102567846money is still on the Vshojo account. Just waiting to be release.
So all this defamation towards the company/CEO is gonna make them rich.
>>102567586So many old images now obsolete...
>>102567999For defamation to be successful you need to be able to prove the claims are false. Lmao
>>102567970>daneopinion invalid. i agree though
>>102567853Gunrun showing a video where mouse says "IT WAS ME, IRONMOUSE, I SPENT THE CHARITY FUNDS ON A WELSHMAN SHAPED LOVE DOLL"
>>102567853>gunrun pays the talents with interest>gunrun sues the talents for defamation>kson reveals it was all a honeypot>geega is revealed to be the villain and ringleader sent to sabotage vshojo
>>102567967that's exactly how someone who considers dramafags nice would respond
>>102567853That it was all lies and mouse gets exposed for being the lying whore she is
Sai is really such a sweetheart.
>>102567853Gunrun dropping a video from some island nobody's ever heard of that he fled to McAfee style. Drinking a cocktail on the beach and doxxing all the talents before vanishing from the public eye forever.
>>102568026Still feels appropriate with Sayu's tweet.
>>102568041>daneActually not. It's just the thing that I clicked on from the many image results on google.
>>102568026Update it. We're going out of business
Mel enabled this by being simply too dumb to realize it was happening
>>102568092that's exactly how someone who considers dramafags nice would respond
>>102567812Listening to Saii is sad. She seems to have a pretty low opinion of herself when she was saying that she was doing more good spending time driving donations on Mouse or Zen's subathons than she would have doing her own thing.
>>102568038words are being thrown everywhere right now. If the plot twist is right then *chuckles*
garnt talking about the vshitshow, he's not really gonna delve too much
>>102568156wouldn't be surprised if MTD made this
>>102568162>meltdown in full swing
I'm not really sure if Saiiren is going to bring up anything about how she is somehow involved, or this is just about how she feels really bad for her friends.
>>102568187I mean it'd be really funny but these are awful betting odds. There is like a 1% shot here Gunrun can actually Uno Reverse this shit.
>>102568212I don't care about Garnt and his shallow opinions
>>102568212what does his friend Hasan Piker think of the situation?
>>102568218gotta do something when you're a salaried employee
>>102567853gunrun is dead
mouse was the shadow ceo, she fucked up and now using company name as a scapegoat
>>102568177Princess Garnet my beloved...
What if Gunrun took the remaning funds to Monte Carlo Casino and comes back with enough money to pay off all debts + interest + giving some support money to the NOVAS/pre shojos?
>>102568270Yes let's get the opinion of yet more fleshy grifters.
>>102568239that's exactly how someone who considers dramafags nice would respond
>>102567853Mel pocketed the money and fled to Panama
looks like Hime wasn't owed money, thank fuck
>>102568325yeah ok he should do that
anathemlaw aka Apek, COO of Vshojo took his linkedin private lmao
>>1025682511% is far too generous. If this was salvagable it would have been done within the first hour. We're like 30 hours later and the only thing VShojo's done is remove all its affiliates and close its store lmao
>>102568325What remaining funds? We already know everything went into operation costs, parties, and advertising. The company went full pyramid scheme dude, there is no money.
VShojo steals money from disabled people.
>Hime wasn't as painfully affected as the rest
That means barely anyone was buying her merch, which tracks.
>>102568244You could say she was involved with how much effort she put into helping out with Mouse's subathon just for VShojo to take 500,000 that was meant for the charity.
>>102568412She did like 2 merch drops in 5 years of VShojo lmao. That she was affected at all is very silly
Wait, where is Hime live?
>>102568356they knew not to mess with the queen
>>102568392You can blame the parties on MTD
hime stream more, please. like, dude, just be sydnap already. people love you.
>>102568468She's not, her grandpa is.
>>102568408*from rich disabled people
>>102568468grandpa is live
>>102568450they fuckin stole from charity, if they also stole from Hime that's just fkn insane
>false pointing the finger at mtd
>>102568325other than the debts, he also probably still needs to fix the countless merch shipping errors, if its even possible at this point
>>102568468No where. Garnt is talking about what he knows.
>>102568418>she appeared on stream so she can insert herself pointlesslyok
Was Tryckywi going to join Vshojo? Why is she rallying so hard for mousey's donation funds?
>>102568408Mouse isn't disabled tho
>>102568120saii is one of the only people I've seen who are focusing on mouse in this conversation and how difficult it must be for her right now. she has my respect alone for that.
>>102568325That would be way more financially responsible than the AD campaign in Japan
>>102568531Because she's based. But no she wasn't. At least not as far as anyone knows
>>102568494Doesn't really change the fact that the money is gone. Vei herself speculated that when she HOUNDED them for payment they used money which rightfully belonged to other talents to get her to fuck off. It was an actual pyramid scheme.
>>102568517yeah thats weird him acting like he didnt knew when this shit has been going on for a long time
>>102568356I mean, what did you expect with her activity level
>>102568536you are tho HAAAAAAAAAA GOTTEEEEEM
>>102568505ah yes sorry i forgot that only rich people suffer from immune deficiency diseases, lol muh bad
>>102568517I never trusted that faggot, honestly
I mean mtd, don't particularly trust purplekeem either tho
>>102568385getting receipts is gonna be hard when the company's accountant was shit and embezzled the money. given if Gunrun is innocent but i doubt that tho
>>102567872>dramafag>nice guyoxymoron
>>102568531>Why is person trying to rally for a thing by one of the more popular vtubers in the industryNobody knows. It's a real enigma.
>>102568356Did her grandpa say that since hes live?
>>102568517>>102568594He was the CFO. It is 100% right to point a finger at him.
>>102568517>mtdMagic the Dathering?
Subathons are dumb anyways.
>>102568645>still seething
>>102568665he implied that shes owed no or probably a lot less money than everyone else. he did not say anything directly
>>102568665He was stumbling to find the words but basically said that she got out of it with the least amount of suffering involved.
>>102568531There are a lot of talents who look up to mouse or were part of those early auditions. Mouse was literally in Numi's big AX party so they met and talked. Michi touched a lot of lives too and it makes sense that they'd all be rallying behind charities as a way to help out
>>102568676I would love for the CFO to try and pass the blame on the CEO. That has real coke and prostitutes in Vegas energy.
>>102568665yeah, he said Hime got out less painful
>>102568708we know you are
>>102568690Ok, if they go directly to Mouse, how did Vshojo intercept them?
>>102568802>Mouse was literally in Numi's big AX party so they met and talked.Twice. She was there last year and this year.
>>102568626Mtd left just a few months ago. Anyone who thinks he isn't part of it is a fool. Probably saw the ship sinking, jumped, and pretended to be on the right side.
>>102568517yeah reading between the lines of a few of the things said I think he isn't clean.
>>102568531I was kind of shocked how many talents had rejected a Vshojo contract. A part of me believed they hired retards as charity.
>>102568531People forget just how much other vtubers idolise mousey. Many people starting streaming directly because they were inspired by various vshojo members, but mousey being the biggest. It's also just a good charity to donate to.
>>102568850Carrots are in the fridge. You can dip them in ranch.
>>102568690its funny because that was their whole shtick; creator freedom, just let them keep merch profits
then turns out they were absolutely dogshit at figuring out how to ship merch
>>102568839maybe mouse send them 500k of donation. then Vshojo didnt send it to IDF.
>>102568531She's leeching. There.
>>102568839NOW they go directly to Mouse, before that Vshojo acted as the middleman.
>>102568839Because Mouse is ultra paranoid about doxxing, and she would have to provide her own info to tiltify for bits / subs to be directed to them from her. So she had Vshojo do it, who did it for her last subathon and everything went fine, so she had no reason not to trust them this time.
lets see if coqui says anything new to this amazing story, she just went live
https://x.com/feebeechanchibi/status/1947855034886328714
Latest unborn vshojo post. THIS GIRL LOOKS REALLY COOL IM SO FUCKING MAD IM GOING TO KILL GUNRUN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP THESE GIRLS OUT THEY DESERVE A SHOT.
Will SILVER COLLAB WITH MOUSE HER BESTIE AGAIN.
>>102568850People forget that there's lives to these vtubers that we never see or hear about. Some are closer or more distant than others
>>102568839pretty sure the only thing they stole from mousey is the charity money
I guess they were somehow trusted to handle it for her and dropped the ball
>>102568994>IM SO FUCKING MAD IM GOING TO KILL GUNRUNin minecraft?
>>102568910>its funny because that was their whole shtick; creator freedom, just let them keep merch profitsNot even keep profits. Keep part of it.
Couple that with what Gigguk is saying right now about lavish expo displays, it just highlights that shit was never sustainable.
>>102568987don't see why she would, she's not related to it in any way
>>102569037no, they also stole mouse's money. and kson and zen and michi and henya's.
>>102569075you never know
Sushi already sounds like she's about to cry
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Another undebuted person has hit the tower
https://x.com/feebeechanchibi/status/1947855034886328714
even Hime grandpa questions where the fuck did the money go
https://x.com/feebeechanchibi/status/1947855034886328714
>>102568994so Vshojo definitely cancelled the upcoming new gen?
Man... all that Tiltify money could really help my backpack research project.
>>102569037No. Mouse flat out said that she herself was owed money on top of the charity donation.
>>102569122Someone summarize the doc because I don't feel like reading shit right now.
>>102569150bro, it's over
everyone left, there's no money
vshojo is no more
>>102569096yeah, they got all their merch sales. supposed to only take a piece, but they pocketed it all and threw parties with it
>>102569175>the docit's the video
>>102569150No, the new gen is cancelling themselves. Or so it seems.
>>102569163Mouse is likely talking about merch money, which is the same issue all the others are ilkely talking about. Or sponsor money.
>>102569060in AnimeExpo you need to spend big tho. Gigguk talking like GeeX+/Trashtaste didnt have a lavish booth, i can't with this hypocrisy
>>102569140We know where it went. Operation costs, parties, and advertising. Mostly the former.
>>102569175She was a 4th person in the monstergirl gen with Pia and Beri
>>102569175same shit as the rest. this one's an idol apparently. vshojo also messed up some comissions and shit, so she doesn't even have art for a modelz let alone rigging.
>>102569143Wait, this girl was in one of Mint's concerts wasn't she?
Fuck's sake this group was actually cracked
>>102569245Dammit, now I have to say I'm too lazy to watch a video.
Someone summarize the video because I don't feel like watching anything right now.
>>102569158Try it and the bells come off
>>102569290She was in fantomethief with Pia
And she so happens to also be in Idol Harmony with Pia in August
>>102569290Panini actually cooked but budget was cooked.
>>102569122>>102569143>ANOTHER irl friend of MintI swear this gen was designed to get Mint to finally join
>>102569330The transcript is right there
False is eating good, he's happy.
>>102569270can you really blow all 11mil on those things? that's fucking crazy
Henya already disarmed me
Sushi too?
bro no
I can't
>>102569258>Mouse is likely talking about merch moneyWith everyone else it's clear that was what they were talking about, but it's harder to know for sure with Mouse's case because of that whole "I'm too scared to disclose my personal information so I Iet them handle everything" stupidity.
That'd mean that she not only gave them the reins to handle her merch/evemt earnings, but very likely subscription/bits as well.
>>102569385gun probably had a million dollar salary to speed things up
>>102569143>>102569122I bet she was rejected for using RTX profile pic, very unprofessional for a vtuber
>>102569264they only run it once and their the sole owner of their own company. they didn't use VC money to pay for it.
>things aren't always what they seem
>when someone says they talk a lot, they probably actually don't talk a lot
Was Silver trying to elude to the fact that she was under NDA and other talents couldn't possibly know what she was going through?
Or did Vshojo spin narratives to other talents to give a false impression of telephone?
>>102569432Did Sushi say something or did she start crying
>>102569385Apparently so. Gunrun was really really bad at managing money. Vei also speculated it went full pyramid scheme with talents being paid with profits from other talents to tide them over.
>>102569384He's not happy, it wasn't Niji that collapsed in 24 hours.
>>102569432what's she saying?
>>102569009Hell, I think we all learned that when earlier today Zen dropped that she was still in contact with the 3 leavers.
Is nda still in effect if the company is gone?
>>102569462nyan said vshojo pitted talents against each other
>>102569385Yes. How big is the company you work for? What do you think is their yearly expenses? Now divide that by number of employees.
Now imagine that, in addition of paying for your office or supplies or whatever, your company paid to fly its staff around the world as well.
>>102569264Garnt addressed that too though.
While Trash Taste/Geex+ did spend big themselves, they paid for that shit with their own money.
Vshojo on the other hand was using money that was supposed to be the talent's cut from merch sales.
>>102569381Fuck... uh....
Someone summarize the transcript because I don't want to read... are we back to reading?... shit right now.
>>102569385most likely blew it on staff, probably overhired like crazy. still, that shit was expensive af, connor said rn it costs around 250K for those metro station ads they got in the beginning.
>>102569462Ironmouse told me she'd be very disappointed if you left
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Who is Kuro going to end up marrying?
>>102569522no. you can't have a contract with an entity that doesn't exist.
>>102569527phase does it and they are fine
>>102569522Who is the other party to the agreement? There might be a successor that inherits the agreement. It's not always 100% clear cut.
His smile is to make people relax their guard against him
>>102569443No not likely, because Twitch doesn't need your IRL info to send you the money. Tiltify does because of federal laws about charity organizations and organizers and transparency.
>>102569571new kuro model is hot, sure, ill have vr sex with him
>>102569532They had 12M from VC investments but somehow blew through that in a couple years and started doing this shit. There is absolutely embezzlement going on here.
>>102569490all I can think is the Peter principal, gunrun or even MTD shouldn't have been at the top managing finances
>>102569459whatever the case maybe, still going big in AnimeExpo is just a norm. So acting like its weird to have a lavish booth is just dumb.
>>102569522The company isn't gone yet, but no. That being said, Vshojo doesn't have the money anymore to go after them for breaking NDA. This is why Nyanners and Vei are going hog wild now.
>>102569385it honestly isn't that much money in the context of (a medium) company expenses
I'm not tripping but Froot did say she was leaving no or am I smoking crack?
>>102569448no, she was accepted
>>102569462If what Vei said was true, the talents were under NDA to keep them from talking about their troubles with Vshojo to each other. On top of that, Vshojo was pitting the talents against each other according to Nyan. So yes to both questions.
>>102569673you just woke up didnt ya
>>102569699she is leaving
>>102569673all she said was
>mouse doesn't talk to me as much anymoretho
>>102569699Nigga she doesn't need to say she's leaving. It's dead. It's gone. You don't need to say "I'm going home now" if there's nobody in the building
>>102569549The video is just a black scren so you could just listen to the audio on another tab i guess
>>102569664He wasn't saying that having a lavish booth is dumb.
He was saying what was their business model to afford this lavish booth.
>>102569699Na man, she just removed all the Vshojo tags on all her accounts for shits and gigles...
>>102569586Guess who's next. How much money do you think Fishman is throwing around to get his talents into big events and promote Phase at cons?
>>102569643they have a VP in finance tho based on their Linkedin profile.
>>102569699She's not leaving. VShojo has now become FrootShojo.
>>102569779Phase makes most of their profit from fucking coffee sales. Like an absurd amount from the stupid coffee sales. The difference here is Vshojo had almost no income.
>>102569673soul vs soulless
>>102569799Froot won...
After all this time she won
>>102569673>nimi marriedand unfollowed
saiiren is sleeping on stream
>>102569760Someone summarize the audio for me because I don't feel like listening to anything right now.
Froot hasn't left yet
She can save Vshojo
>steal 500k
>people donate 1mil
>steal 1 mil
>people donate 2mil
perfect strat
>>102569839This guy only likes bitches with cobwebs down there
>>102569746No I'm saying I keep seeing on my timeline think she hasn't said shit and I'm like; She was justl ive hello?
I would like to jack off to some hot 3D model action. Any reccs? Haven't been here in a few months, did any ligger do anything hot in 3D recently?
perishable merch makes boatloads of cash, like coffee or cancer powder. Like the tea was a consistent top seller, they should've expanded there
>>102569820VShojo easily sold more merchandise from Mousey alone than all of Phase combined. C'mon man. Fishman is next.
>>102569586You didn't answer my question (also I am not
>>102569779). However, I will respond to your comment:
>phase does it and they are fineAnd VShojo did it and they weren't fine.
My point was merely to get you to think about how much money a company can spend. Companies spend a lot of money, both in general and per-employee. $11 million is not a large amount for a company with VShojo's headcount. Most people don't walk around every day with the actual scale of business expenses in their heads.
>gunrun really WAS froot the whole time and thats why she hasnt left
>>102569804Didn't Mouse try during her subathon to get the Immune Deficiency Foundation trending but it didn't work out? That's awesome.
>>102569938heavenlyfather
>>102569960>BBC had the scoop 4 years ago
Why are there high-end escort services and Lamborghinis listed on Vshojoโs expense report?
>>102569820A lot of people were noticing weird signs about Vshojo's finances. It's not pure hindsight, there conversations kept happening. If I really hone in on it, the problem was Vshojo spending money in questionable ways. That naturally makes one question where that level of money came from. There was no smoking gun before this, but there was a lot of questions.
>>102569957>Most people don't walk around every day with the actual scale of business expenses in their heads.Most people on 4chan don't walk around understanding the modern scale of money in general.
>>102570017So that's where the money went
>>102569955Vshojo is owed very little from their own merch sales, after production costs 50% was to go to the fucking talents. That is not enough income to stay afloat even if they sell a lot. Meanwhile the phase coffee sells for a premium, costs him fuck all to get, and fishman keeps ALL of the fucking profit. The vtubers themselves make less money for Phase than that stupid ass coffee does. The coffee is such a pillar of that dumb fucking company they produced a god damn song for it.
>>102568994oh that's the girl who's gonna perform in a concert with PiaPi next month https://x.com/oshiSPARK/status/1947416401653744000
>>102569955to way more people sure, but people only ever buy a shirt once, but with coffee you can buy it every single month and the margins are better
>>102569938Can I interest you in some Silver wearing the lewdest outfit she's ever worn on stream before?
>>102569833/v/ is on the other tab
Sushidog worried about how so much of her portfolio is VSJ related, and how it may affect that.
>>102570071Silver taking a shit on Vshojo's grave
>>102570071I NEED TO PLAY HOGWARTS LEGACY RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>102570131Just like everyone for the past day or so.
>>102570125NO! SUSHI GOOD.
>>102570052>>102570065And I assume they disclose these coffee sales so you can all see it for yourselves.
I haven't hit the trnaslate button but I assume they're all saying the same thing
>>102570071Sorry, I'm team dfc
>>102570071Alreasy saw that. Good recc, good to see silver shaking her ass for the first time in years. Maybe she gets some of that righteous retribution energy and does it again.
>>102569586Fishman is independently wealthy, like fuck you rich
>>102570031Makes me think a lot of Enron's collapse. Questionable financial practices, continuing to expand despite poor financials, collapses basically/literally overnight.
>>102570199Yes actually, they do. I don't have the graph personally because I'm not a phasefag but if you go to their general and ask for it I guarantee they'll post it for you. The fish was surprisingly transparent about it. Coffee makes the lion's share of their profits.
>>102570176Do they have an ass like that to shit with? No? Then shut up.
>>102569955Phase does seem to spend a lot of money on OffKai...
They're clearly not spending as hard as VShojo was, but their operating costs are higher and they have an even bigger disparity between moneymakers and also-theres
>>102570207yup
Nova is gone
>>102570207she already included a translation
>>102570140It was a fun stream even with the white girl dancing lol.
>>102570213She's been wanting to make Fridays her 3D stream days but shit has been getting in the way recently.
>>102570220So was Gunrun. Who would have been an idiot to spend all his fortune on VShojo. If Fishman is doing that he's in even more peril than I thought.
>>102570274You're not factoring the stupid ass coffee dude. The "phase coffee company" shit is a meme for a reason. It is surprisingly lucrative. Perishables are a great market.
>>102570052Assuming anyone in their marketing team wasn't retarded (hard to believe) I assume each of the girls own merch sales Vshojo got a cut of, but VShojo basically gets a license to produce VShojo branded stuff of their own with their likeness, from which they get all the profits.
In the end, either the initial deals for merch weren't enough in their favor to make money, or they didn't sell enough VShojo branded merch that they got most of the money for.
VShojo should have marketed the company brand more, since that's the stuff that would make them the most money.
>>102570291Sounds like they want to continue together. That's nice at least.
>>102570207Full messages. Nova is looking for a way to continue together with JP staff. Also Hotaru live, presumably to discuss this.
>>102570274Also paid a crapton of money to Filian for the Vtuber Awards. And what kind of ROI is that getting them?
If you can. Lets put aside shit and boost these nova replies. These girls are doing so well ngl they are really really good. Like legit talented
>>102570388>Forgot the imageSHIT
Also Peke just posted one too https://x.com/PekeIsPeak/status/1947862368828199187 Says basically the same thing. Leaving VShojo, and exploring options to continue Nova with JP staff.
Are people unironically buying that you can't make money from merch? This is dumb. The problem wasn't the income. They were doing shit like renting party buses and throwing raves.
>>102570362Who the fuck is buying Phase coffee besides Phasefags
>>102570388That's what I was hoping for. A rebrand will be in order but since they were apparently doing just fine, it'd be a shame for the JP branch to die for EN's mistakes.
Did Peke know all this before she went on leave?
So nova has all given official public notice. Does that make froot the last one to not say it outright? (even though we all know she's leaving)
You people also need to take into account that Phase has much fewer employees to pay than Vshojo. The fish gets the talents to work in the warehouse for fucks sake. It's a tiny ass company that makes far more than it needs to operate since all the talents profit and the stupid ass coffee sells for a mint. Compare that to Vshojo which had a much more robust staff, only makes 50% off merch/sponsors, doesn't get anything from subs/donos, and kept blowing money on parties and advertising.
>>102570445I do love these girls. I also am heartbroken for the ones we didn't meet both on the EN and JP side. Some of them we might not ever know.
>>102570519lol, they found out when we did
>>102570521>froot the last one to not say it outright?she said it on stream
>>102570519Seems like it blindsided JP leadership, so doubtful.
>>102570450And Peke's to complete the set.
>>102570385>I assume each of the girls own merch sales Vshojo got a cut ofNTA but part of the reason I'm looking forward to Mel's next stream is that I want to know if they took a cut of Mel's lewd merch sales. Are they withholding money from her pocket pussy sales of all things? That would be so insane.
NOVA working on making their own group, with burakkujakku and hookers.
>>102570488>Are people unironically buying that you can't make money from merch?Naw.
What people are buying is that you can't make money from a fraction of merch, specially when you're doing shit like renting party buses and throwing raves.
>>102570592Should that be a surprise at this point? She needs to message Mouse or whomever she did work for and see if they will.
Though I honestly HATE this idea because it gets VShojo off the hook for those debts, at least the artists will get supported.
>>102569379>>102569290I'm gonna go for a limp here
What if the schizos theories back in February were right? What if Mint was going to join as this sort of "senpai" to a new "gen".
Pia and Pheobe were announced after the applications. for FantomeThief. Beri was probably someone who joined the applications and casually would fill the bill. While Tori was a genuine pick.
A Ghost Girl would classify as a "monster girl".
>>102570592Never mind, she was, but it was super delayed and she had to chase them up.
>>102570496>Who the fuck is buying Phase coffee besides PhasefagsPhasefags are the only ones who need to fucking buy it. The coffee is expensive and it RUNS OUT. Meaning they drink it all and then buy more. Compare that to other merch, you aren't going to need two of the same plushie. Compound this with the fact that fishman gets the coffee for pennies and has an insane mark-up and you have a recipe for constant profit. More corpos should honestly get into perishable items like food and drink like this.
Sudden barrage of tweets
Mel happy to see 600k https://x.com/ProjektMelody/status/1947863242333683889
Zen encouraging Hestia https://x.com/zentreya/status/1947863916610261378
And Hestia posted her message in Japanese https://twitter.com/HestiaHappiness/status/1947863871064092706
>>102570623and they're moving to a building with blackjack and hookers
>>102570627Almost 730k now.
>>102570626Oh God... likely that Universal deal is dead for them then huh? Fuck.
>>102570406So it was all Filian's fault, typical. All she ever does is steal shit.
>>102570627Bless Mel for being such a sweetheart but she's a little behind on the totals. Sasuga Mel.
>>102570703They'll be the hookers
>>102570694She was looking at the Dexerto article which said 600k so she got surprised again to see the current amount lol
>>102570406fucking flip behavior
>>102570672>I'm gonna go for a limp hereCan fix that, bruv
>>102570231It's really not that unique of a story. It's actually kind of shocking how much a company can expand with no fundamentals. There have been many notable examples since at least the 1700s, and I wouldn't be shocked if we find some examples as far as the 1300s in Europe or 700s in China.
mtd sure liked to brag about his cool life at vshojo
https://x.com/MowtenDoo/status/1675402163055636480
>>102570746It's so weird that Mel is a horny slut who makes porn for a living but is a gooey care bear cinnamon roll on the inside. It's such an odd dichotomy. Weirdest gap moe ever.
Mel you goofball I love you so much
>>102570071>>102570333Reminds me of something
>>102570773I'd pay premium for Peke
froot is the last vshojo member
>>102570827mtd should talk about what happened with the auditions back when he vaugeposted about them
>>102570827Anon if you're going to rrat at least try. That's an event Kson was holding not some big party unrelated to anything he was going to. You can see her cutouts in the background in the tweet above.
>>102570775>>102570791Okay good, she's caught up. She even made a post in her discord. No matter what, she's still Mel.
>>102570899kek, already being told back then
>>102570385>from which they get all the profits.I could be wrong but I think they've said it before that talent merch (aka the Vshojo branded stuff with their likeness that you mention), is the same thing as regular merch where the talent and the company split the profit.
Basically, theres no "Vshojo gets all the money, talent gets none" legitimate scenario, hence the embezzlement of the talent's merch revenue.
mouse is the unity queen. not in the Vshojo group but within the Vtuber sphere
>>102570855Yeah, that's her NIKKE Cinderella cosplay from when she did some songs for the anniversary celebration this year.
>>102570977Instructions unclear, donated my plasma directly to Tiltify.
>>102570977Baglets is a good bean.
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>>102571040>but within the Vtuber sphereNo that's Doki. Ironlung just sticks to popular fleshies.
Still wonder what happened with RadPuppy. She was part of VShojo leadership until around the first exodus where she was forced out. I wonder if that's when Gunrun and MTD decided to start operating like a ponzi scheme.
JP side was doing fine with solid management and staying in the black, but then EN messed it all up with their sloppy handling โ or maybe even some shady misuse of funds, who knows. Itโs honestly ridiculous that things turned out like this because of that.
Most of the VShojo members will probably be okay even if they go indie, but the NOVA members who were just about to grow... man, they really got screwed over. Feel bad for them.
>>102571098I'm so sorry man, she didn't deserve this shit. None of them did.
>>102570071her model is sex but shes like 240lbs like candi and it ruins my erection
donated to Titify so Mousey can get some Double D's
>>102571098I will try to look out for her more, she seems fun.
Sorry about all of this.
>>102570948sounds like she's just a seething 1view bitching about muh nepotism
doubt she knew about vshojo's financial status
>>102571098Right now all my hopes are for Zen and everyone else in VShojo to adopt her and everyone else who was going to join and elevate the everloving fuck out of her. Zen already did at least follow them all and tweet at them
>>102570839I've heard too many times that porn stars are some of the nicest people you can ever meet. It turns out if you can survive one of the most abusive exploitative industries ever, you tend to come out a better person because you don't want to see other people suffer like that.
So Sushi is afraid her portfolio is now tainted for working with Vshojo?
Also she's owed money of course
>>102571098I was already aware of your oshi. Welcome.
>>102570679Coffee is a pure money machine. I'm actually surprised you don't see more groups try it. imagine if froot (idk if any of the other drinks it) had started selling half decent tea it would probably make decent money. You can make and design merch like mugs and coaster for it super easy too.
>>102571108Iffin you ain't the grandaddy of all liars.
>>102571194Maybe list the talents instead of the corp
>>102571182I wouldn't put it past Zen collabing with all of the miscarried Vshojos before the month's done.
>>102571153They're working on it and I really really hope we get an announcement soon of a new agency forming with those 4 at the center
>>102571098I already followed her for some reason
she's cool
>>102571160I smell a kiwifag.
>>102571182She's already a Mel plus. There's a very good chance we'll see her on Lewdcast or something at some point.
>>102571257It's tough because the climate in Japan is that companies are better than individuals
They want to see something "official"
>>102571234Vshojo had a line of Mouse and Froot tea for a few months now. It was their top selling items...
>>102571153they massively overspent to start jp, when apparently they already had fiscal management issues when vei, pink cat and silver were there
>>102569839she's not married yet anon
there's still a chance for you
crash the wedding
>>102571115doki fucking hates you
>>102571234To be honest I'm surprised the fish hasn't already added tea to the line-up.
>>102571234>make teaThey DID, and it sold well (it was legit good tea) And yet, here we is.
>>102571323fucking catalog tourists like you never learn
>>102571257Nah she should keep the corpo in.
Then prospective employers will she that she's a moron who will gladly do work for free for months. Hate it all you want but those fucks will be all over her to exploit her for that.
>>102570570>>102570450i feel so sorry for the NOVA girls
>>102570672I don't fully remember if they've already met IRL but Beri is also a friend of Mint
>>102571568I know Mint has met Pia, Beri, and Phoebe irl
But I dont think at the same time, at least that anyone knows of
If some kind of charity fundraiser happens, Sushidog is thinking about selling the original physical copies of her tarot card art.
>>102571522I didn't hear no bell, we still got a chance.
I want to, no. I fucking believe they'll make something workout
>>102571673isn't mouse planning a charity stream? maybe she can get in touch with one of the mods about adding her art for charity or giveaway
