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Anonymous No.102576631 >>102576699 >>102576765 >>102576954 >>102577292 >>102577871 >>102578408 >>102578618 >>102578715 >>102580759 >>102581255 >>102582708 >>102583125 >>102583599 >>102583916 >>102584056 >>102584222 >>102584239 >>102584542 >>102584825 >>102584884 >>102587533 >>102588105 >>102588123 >>102588216 >>102588259 >>102588344 >>102589461 >>102589465 >>102589679 >>102589777 >>102590005 >>102590100 >>102590432 >>102590619 >>102590714
make it make sense
Anonymous No.102576699
>>102576631 (OP)
Fdund
Anonymous No.102576765 >>102576890 >>102580810 >>102588216
>>102576631 (OP)
honestly how long it took you to draw this?
Anonymous No.102576803 >>102588721 >>102588801
Could have something like regular vtuber streamers, they are themselves with an avatar. Maybe some lore, maybe just "look I have cat ears." They remain open about their lives to the extent they wish to be open to. Sharing marriages,kids, whatever.

Then maybe have some sort of disclaimed "fantasy" streamer. "This streamer is playing a character and nothing the character says shall be taken as a representation of the streamers actual beliefs or behaviors."
It could be like a surgeons general warning. Since it was disclaimed then it's kind of on you at that point. Put it in the description or at the bottom of the vid or something. The disclaimer is what keeps the distinction clear for vulnerable adults and teenagers with their moms credit card.

Grey area is reduced. Less 500 plushie collector an heros.
Anonymous No.102576819
Cuck cope
Anonymous No.102576832 >>102577613 >>102577880 >>102580850 >>102584302 >>102587176 >>102587569
Bad faith bait. The first panel almost never happens. The payment is directly related to parasocial attachment and the assumption that service rendered will be ongoing unaltered.
By all means, be happy and get married ladies, but you have to graduate first.
Anonymous No.102576890 >>102577096 >>102577116 >>102577146 >>102577695 >>102578504
>>102576765
less than 5 minutes
Anonymous No.102576954 >>102582498
>>102576631 (OP)
>tfw never once donated to a vtuber
>majority of my memberships were gifts too
Won't catch me being downbad for these whores.
Anonymous No.102576973
>>10257663
Imagine the first "Lore drop: I'm pregnant!!" tweet
Anonymous No.102577096 >>102577288
>>102576890
Can you draw me a picture of boobs?
Anonymous No.102577116
>>102576890
impressive
Anonymous No.102577146 >>102577524
>>102576890
Draw biboos :D face
Anonymous No.102577288
>>102577096
just boobs?
Anonymous No.102577292
>>102576631 (OP)
cool. now do the same for all the other types of entertainers.
Anonymous No.102577524 >>102577618 >>102577645 >>102577675 >>102577752 >>102577945 >>102578551 >>102582979 >>102588169 >>102588216
>>102577146
like this rhght?
Anonymous No.102577613 >>102577884 >>102587176
>>102576832
>By all means, be happy and get married ladies, but you have to graduate first.
I mean, she did!
The issue is moreso that she redebuted, sold some debut merch, collected a bunch of membership money, streamed as usual for like 7 months and THEN dropped the "I'm married" bomb
People are sperging out because as you said, the payment is directly related to parasocial attachment and she know this as well, which is why she kept this information hidden till day 212 because revealing this on Day 1 would've affected her income and that's slimily as fuck
This is honestly no different then way say, an game dev who has their game available for early accesses runs away with the money before finishing it
Anonymous No.102577618
>>102577524
Now draw her pregnant.
Anonymous No.102577645 >>102577828
>>102577524
i hope you are using a different style so people won't dox your social
Anonymous No.102577675 >>102577828
>>102577524
it's honestly impressive, i hope this isnt painstaking hobby you do everyday but not doing it for shitposting
Anonymous No.102577695
>>102576890
leonardo davinci over here
Anonymous No.102577752 >>102578909
>>102577524
Now draw her with a huge futa dick
Anonymous No.102577828
>>102577645
dont have a social lol
>>102577675
kind of, its complicated, i know im an artist and that's "what i am" but its not like its painstaking and the guy who taught me was a massive shitposter with his work so i inherited that a bit
Anonymous No.102577871 >>102577946
>>102576631 (OP)
Women aren't entertaining, the only reason to pay attention to them is if you're pursuing them romantically.
Anonymous No.102577880 >>102590674
>>102576832
>I-I-I made an assumption so now you're obligated to honor it!
What. The. Fuck?
Anonymous No.102577884 >>102578099 >>102578500 >>102587176 >>102587594 >>102587981
>>102577613
>This is honestly no different then way say, an game dev who has their game available for early accesses runs away with the money before finishing it
No, this is more the equivalent of a developer turning out to be a leftist and so people regret buying the game, which is an equally 4chan and equally psychotic mindrot.
Anonymous No.102577945 >>102578909
>>102577524
Give her a big dick
Anonymous No.102577946 >>102578319
>>102577871
If you donate money to vtubers thinking you're gonna be the one out of hundreds/thousands of donators that is gonna get to be her boyfriend, you are pathetic.
Anonymous No.102578099 >>102588793
>>102577884
>No, this is more the equivalent of a developer turning out to be a leftist and so people regret buying the game
Nah nah, cuz at least in that situation you'd still have the game, i.e the thing you paid for
People were paying Nimi for an illusion and she shattered that shit HERSELF. Zero exposés needed (ala Rushia/Mikeneko)
Anonymous No.102578319
>>102577946
I think "retarded" describes it more accurately. Surely there are more efficient ways to get a girlfriend than donating money to a big vtuber.
Anonymous No.102578408 >>102578453
>>102576631 (OP)
Anti-unicorns are the most deranged people in the vtubing fandom
Anonymous No.102578453
>>102578408
No, that would be unicorns.
Anonymous No.102578500
>>102577884
>THIS IS JUST LIKE (BRINGS UP POLITICS OUT OF NOWHERE)
>>>/vt/pcg/
Anonymous No.102578504
>>102576890
You're very talented and it's a cute comic, anon.
I like this thread
Anonymous No.102578551 >>102578909
>>102577524
cute
now draw the breasts the other anon requested (this is no longer a request)
Anonymous No.102578618
>>102576631 (OP)
You shouldn't be giving them money in the first place, you fucking simps.
Anonymous No.102578715
>>102576631 (OP)
I never gave money to vchubbas aside from that one time to Subaru for reaching Master on SF6 to and a CC membership during a time of weakness. I did spend a lot of time consuming chuubas, that might be roughly equivalent.
For me it's the feeling of envy whenever I see a happy couple because I couldn't accomplish that irl and feeling like a failure for not accomplishing that. Vtubers were my way of escaping that envy, for some inescapable reason vchubbas are very good at doing that, maybe coz they make me feel less lonely, maybe I relate to them being nerd/otaku/having embarrassing stories being introverts, asocial weirdos like me. So when a chubba suddenly announces "I'm in my happy couple phase :)" all that envy hits me like a backstab to my heart.
That's with me at least. I suspect other unicorns have the same feelings about this situation it's just that their way of managing their hurt feelings is by angrily screenshoting themselves canceling subscriptions or burning their merch or making troll rants about muh unfairness on socials.
Anonymous No.102578909 >>102579235 >>102584958
>>102577752
>>102577945
ok i was talking to someone but here you go it took me a little second to look up the full body i guess but i sort of winged it
>>102578551
ok she has boobs too
Anonymous No.102579235
>>102578909
Great job, anon
Anonymous No.102580759 >>102581243 >>102581394
>>102576631 (OP)
>make it make sense
I can't make sense of a strawman. The situation is more like:
>Viewer: Here you are, this money is to support you as an entertainer, which I assume you enjoy being. Please take it, and continue entertaining and bringing joy to me and others.
>Chuuba: Thank you.
Later
>Chuuba: I am now extremely happy with my handsome fiance, but would still love it if you continued supporting me.
>Viewer: I wish you luck, and am happy for the two of you. However, you no longer give me the kind of joy that made me want to support you in the first place. Good day.
Anonymous No.102580810
>>102576765
Anonymous No.102580850
>>102576832
>The first panel almost never happens.
Please stop projecting your unicorn retardation on others.
>The payment is directly related to parasocial attachment
If this were true, Pippa would be panhandling on a street corner.
Anonymous No.102581058 >>102581081 >>102588830
TRVTH NVKE: Restricting income avenues to subscriptions, merchandise, and ad revenue would curb the majority of meltdowns.
Anonymous No.102581081 >>102581224
>>102581058
nobody would vtube if there was no cash in it
Anonymous No.102581224
>>102581081
really makes you think
Anonymous No.102581243
>>102580759
>I wish you luck, and am happy for the two of you.
We both know that's a lie. Other than that, pretty accurate.
Anonymous No.102581255
>>102576631 (OP)
>I'm totally a nerd who doesn't go outside and doesn't talk to people just like you guys teehee
>just kidding I'm an engaged normo who's gonna have kids soon whoops :p
ftfy
Anonymous No.102581394 >>102581604
>>102580759
>Viewer: I wish you luck, and am happy for the two of you. However, you no longer give me the kind of joy that made me want to support you in the first place. Good day.
Let me fix that for you
>"I don't watch you, but I'm still going to shit and piss all over everything like a child and I will never stop moaning about this on /vt/.
Anonymous No.102581604
>>102581394
I was speaking more generally, but you're not wrong.
Anonymous No.102582454 >>102582858
>Chuuuba: I am LemonLeaf. Lemonleaf talked about her boyfriend. There are LemonLeaf videos on my channel
>Viewer: Meaningless. The cycle will continue. With every yab I get closer to cuck nirvana
>Chuuba: anon please, this isn't healthy
>Viewer: know that every time that man caresses your body, I am there watching, savoring every moment. sometimes I'm him, but sometimes i'm you, sharing your pleasure
>Chuuba: anon you're making me uncomfortable
>Viewer: If he is the only thing that satisfies you, then he will satisfy me as well. oh, I can feel it already! show me everything, help me understand!
Anonymous No.102582498 >>102583071
>>102576954
I don't get why you would do it anyway. It's free content.
Anonymous No.102582708
>>102576631 (OP)
>make it make sense
Sure, here:
Anonymous No.102582858
>>102582454
I dare (You) to actually say that type of shit in her chat, comments, dms, etc. You won't bitch-ass nigga
Anonymous No.102582979 >>102583026
>>102577524
Are you perhaps that guy who used to make Hololive 4 panel drawings on /jp/? Which btw I lost all of them sadly
Anonymous No.102583026 >>102583091
>>102582979
lol nah im just some aussie artist with too much free time
Anonymous No.102583071
>>102582498
Only big donators know about this but it will net you sex with chuubas. Take chuuba's subscriber count, drop the last 3 digits and that's their rate per hour. For example, if you have donated 2790 bucks to Suisei she owes you one hour of sex at the moment.
Anonymous No.102583081
I hope her husband is very potent so he makes her pregnant in one try. I don't want them to keep trying to make a baby all day.
Anonymous No.102583091
>>102583026
The style is kind of similar. Your drawings are great, anon. If you still have time, can you draw Pekora holding a "jesus hates fags" sign? This time I won't lose it
Anonymous No.102583125 >>102583243 >>102583760 >>102589215 >>102590849
>>102576631 (OP)
That's not it. Most vtubers are emotional whores. They sell pathetic men the emotional fulfillment they are literally starved for in their lives due to zero female interest coming their way. This emotional fulfillment is 100% dependent on them not having a real life partner.
Anonymous No.102583243 >>102583309
>>102583125
surely vtuber fans would know better to fall for such narcissistic manipulation?
Anonymous No.102583309
>>102583243
>Surely onlyfans subscribers would know better than to fall for
>Surely stripjoint enjoyers would know better than to fall for
>Surely johns would know better than to
>Surely
Ignorance is bliss
Anonymous No.102583357
this is a drawing request thread now
Anonymous No.102583599
>>102576631 (OP)
Nothing wrong about it, thanks to her fans me and my girl got a new house.
Anonymous No.102583760 >>102583994 >>102584343
>>102583125
It's also on the fan to remember that it's just a fantasy and nothing more. I view vtubing kinda like drinking or gambling, if you aren't capable of enjoying those things responsibly then you shouldn't drink or gamble. Likewise, if you get so invested in a chuuba that any reminder that she's not actually your real girlfriend is enough to break your brain, vtubers are not for you and you need to grow up.
Anonymous No.102583916
>>102576631 (OP)
Kek. Now we need that shiori cuckchair meme on nimi
Anonymous No.102583994
>>102583760
>that she's not actually your real girlfriend is enough to break your brain, vtubers are not for you and you need to grow up.
trvke
Anonymous No.102584056 >>102584063
>>102576631 (OP)
Nimi will be having raw unprotected sex everyday for the sole purpose of procreation.
Anonymous No.102584063 >>102584159 >>102584554
>>102584056
how does this affect me?
Anonymous No.102584159
>>102584063
I would expect her streaming schedule to get interrupted by the pregnancy.
Anonymous No.102584222
>>102576631 (OP)
She can use her money on whatever she god damn pleases.
But pretty sure she didn't marry a typical redditor/4channer with no job. Too smart for that.
Anonymous No.102584239
>>102576631 (OP)
If you curate the type of people who like a GFE (Yes even with her "WE'RE NOT FRIENDS" video, she kept doing it after), you should expect this.
Anonymous No.102584302
>>102576832
>The payment is directly related to parasocial attachment and the assumption that service rendered will be ongoing unaltered
>Donations are payment
>What I expect is what everyone expects
When anecdotal evidence mixes with schizo posting, this is what you end up with
Anonymous No.102584343
>>102583760
>if you get so invested in a chuuba that any reminder that she's not actually your real girlfriend is enough to break your brain, vtubers are not for you and you need to grow up
True, but too often people conflate this with the perfectly reasonable response of moving on to someone else when such reminders become excessive
Anonymous No.102584419
>Anons are so retarded they can only detect a marriage when the chuuba literally tells them
You guys are like what, 5 marriages late already? That's in Hololive alone
Anonymous No.102584461 >>102584536 >>102584557
We saved her, guys...isn't that what this has all been for?
Anonymous No.102584536
>>102584461
>Parasocial incels can't comprehend people having a fruitful life
It'd be more sad if it wasn't so hilarious
Anonymous No.102584542
>>102576631 (OP)
This is why you have to overwork and underpay people.
Anonymous No.102584554
>>102584063
Expect to not get as many streams if any at all in the coming months, and when you do get a stream once in a blue moon it'll be extremely short due to exhaustion. You have no idea how mentally draining it is to raise a kid.
Anonymous No.102584557
>>102584461
Uh no I wanted her to suck my dick please understand
Anonymous No.102584825 >>102585375
>>102576631 (OP)
Can't really answer your question but that drawing looks pretty nice, good work op
Anonymous No.102584884 >>102585375
>>102576631 (OP)
Pretty good drawing do you take commissions
Anonymous No.102584958
>>102578909
Please draw Ayame decapitating me
Anonymous No.102585275 >>102585347
You guys ever get tired of putting each other down
Anonymous No.102585347
>>102585275
No it rejuvenates me
Anonymous No.102585375
>>102584825
>>102584884
im going to be honest i am genuinely surprised i have gotten so many positive comments like this on art i sorta intentionally tried to make look bad in order to incite a bit of rage.
Anonymous No.102587082
It's literally no different than the fags who get mad when they hand a bunch of money over to some random woman in hopes they fuck them. Just buy a hooker at this point.
Anonymous No.102587176 >>102587705
>>102577884
>>102577613
>>102576832
It's your job to stay delusional, not her.
Anonymous No.102587337
This was always the plan. She cashed in her re-debut buff with merch and concert sales and dropped the announcement because she will probably have extended breaks for the marriage and newborn arrangements. She is probably laughing her ass off in her way to the bank as we speak thinking how well it all worked out.
Anonymous No.102587338
doing ASMR while having sex with her hubby. Nimi NTR at your service
Anonymous No.102587533
>>102576631 (OP)
>make it make sense
I honestly hate this twitter meme, usually said by a clueless faggot.
Anonymous No.102587569
>>102576832
Also I respect that Shachi didn't redebut. Don't know what she's doing but she graduated and stayed graduated. Sana too. Nimi just proved she's a fucking grifter with all these merch drops and then the bomb drop, she never should have been in hololive in the first place because she's talentless. If you need an asmr chick with a manager, they should have gotten Fallenshadow.
Anonymous No.102587594
>>102577884
>psychotic
Why do leftists talk about boycotts and then get mad when they happen to you? Why do you think you should be immune to consequences? Fuck off to europe if you don't like it.
Anonymous No.102587649
Holy shit please draw Fuwawa molesting Mococo.
Anonymous No.102587664 >>102587807 >>102589264
She'll never betray me
Anonymous No.102587705
>>102587176
That doesn't make any sense if the main component of said delusion pulls down the curtain herself and be all "in your face" about it as much as she can.
Anonymous No.102587807
>>102587664
Need more AI tubers so we can leave these whores in the dust.
Anonymous No.102587981
>>102577884
This analogy makes literally no sense. I'm curious to hear you elaborate on it
Anonymous No.102588105
>>102576631 (OP)
LMAO atleast I only do gifted subs *cries harder*

Jokes side, OP love your art, keep posting when needed.
Anonymous No.102588123
>>102576631 (OP)
just keep paying up, piggy
Anonymous No.102588169
>>102577524
the murderous feeling when you draw small-chested anime girl with BIGGER chest.
Anonymous No.102588216 >>102588245 >>102588343
>>102576631 (OP)
>>102576765
>>102577524
you're making these with AI and prompting it to look like it's a hand-drawn quick sketch
Anonymous No.102588245
>>102588216
nu uh
Anonymous No.102588259
>>102576631 (OP)
>This money is in exchange for your service as an entertainer
Was telling her lonely male fanbase about upcoming wedding with a Chad part of entertainment all these people paid for?
Anonymous No.102588343
>>102588216
this. it's easy to tell because of how fast he posts. he has no idea how long drawing takes since he's never tried it.
source: am ex artist and a prompter
Anonymous No.102588344 >>102588379
>>102576631 (OP)
>make it make sense
A good portion of /vt/niggers want to emulate their super secret internet club and take the stance that half of 4chan takes--
>eww streamer eww vtumor kys
--but they also want female contact and attention. So they lurk, they donate, they do the parasocial thing. And once the illusion is shattered, sour grapes kicks in and they feel like they have to put on the display, lest they feel duped themselves.
>I NEVER EVEN DONATED ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES REEEEEE
They took psychic damage and now they cope. If they truly hated women they would neither participate in an activity that was mojority woman performed, nor speak about women so much. In reality, they are mentally ill and touch starved. This in itself is not an indictment of them, as I am also these things. But they practically live in this Godforsaken pit, so the reaction is predictable.
Anonymous No.102588379
>>102588344
>mojority
*majority
Sorry, sleep deprived.
Anonymous No.102588721 >>102589003
>>102576803
Was there ever really a grey area with Nimi? She was never GFE, she explicitly avoided doing ASMR for a long time. She has been nothing but open about all the real life stuff so people know what their money is going towards.
It is so immensely obvious that the streamer is not going to fuck you and Nimi never pretended she was going to fuck you. The issues is, as always, 4chan is half schizos living in their own concocted fantasy lands and half shitposters making fun of said schizos.
Anonymous No.102588793
>>102578099
>you'd still have the game
You still have the streams. You still have the plushies you bought, and access to the membership streams, and she is still committed to streaming in the future. The idea that paying a streamer amounts to them having to stream forever or they stole from you is retarded.
Anonymous No.102588801
>>102576803
>some sort of disclaimed "fantasy" streamer. "This streamer is playing a character and nothing the character says shall be taken as a representation of the streamers actual beliefs or behaviors."
So, Vtubers? Well, vtubers before western whores?
Anonymous No.102588830
>>102581058
Isnt that what Nimi is already doing? She doesnt have superchats enabled.
Anonymous No.102588916
Reminder that if you have parasocial attachments to the streamers to the extent that you actually feel pain at them not being your gfs, you are the cuck.
Anonymous No.102589003 >>102589196
>>102588721
Even then you could easily make arguments for the same shit for people like FWMC or Kiara, who arguably say some of the most 'parasocial' shit when it comes to EN. At the end of the day everything they're saying can be boiled down to 'Thanks for being a fan and supporting my career' with the occasional bit of retarded coomerbaiting.
Even this shit FWMC did can be summed up in 'We like VN's and everything was a dream lol', it's purely up to the phychos to take it fully into their magical realm of autism.
Bottom line, don't fall for bait in any form and don't get suckered into wasting money on women because it makes you feel slightly less lonely.
Anonymous No.102589196 >>102589312
>>102589003
>don't waste money on women
>*screencap from membership stream*
Anonymous No.102589215
>>102583125
maybe those guys should go back to 2D waifus and use character ai/janitor ai. They're pretty much getting the same ecperience except the AI wont cuck you and can voice chat directly with you
Anonymous No.102589264 >>102589343
>>102587664
those songs with Kaito tho...
Anonymous No.102589312
>>102589196
Gotten for free from their thread over the last year at some point. Thanks though.
Anonymous No.102589343
>>102589264
nah, dude looks good in duke of venomancia for any man to resist his ass
Anonymous No.102589461
>>102576631 (OP)
I don't think there's anything wrong in using the money she got from donation on whatever she wants. But I really want to know and understand is why did she announce it to her community.
How was her community before the announcement, was it getting to the point that she need to set some rules like this?
Anonymous No.102589465 >>102589580 >>102589707 >>102589922
>>102576631 (OP)
Vtubers are inherently different than any other content creator, it’s an escape. Most fans, especially that actually donate and shit, are lonely single men looking to help a girl failure. Whenever that girl comes out as being in a relationship, it’s a complete betrayal of her fans’ trust and support. The fans are staying single and contributing financially, if that’s not enough for the streamer that she STILL needs to get into a relationship, then she’s just a greedy whore that both wants to milk lonely men but also be able to get dicked down outside stream
Anonymous No.102589580 >>102589617
>>102589465
>My simping is totally different from those other fags who watch random women on twitch who act the same way!
>What's the difference?
>Well the anime avatar, duh!
You're a fucking retard.
Anonymous No.102589617 >>102589883
>>102589580
If you actually cannot tell the difference between vtubers and flesh streamers, then you’re a fucking newfag
Anonymous No.102589679
>>102576631 (OP)
Because most vtubers (not all) are shit entertainers, and are just slutty women with an anime mask on. Vtuber fans (not all of them) are just horny lonely idiots that will gladly self-delude themselves while coping and claiming it's not like that. The genuine entertainment value of nimi nightmare and many others like her is garbage level.
Anonymous No.102589707 >>102589888
>>102589465
>there is no other form of content creation that relies on escapism
>there is no other form of media that targets the single 18-36 male demographic
No one tell him about anime and video games he'll freak.
Anonymous No.102589777
>>102576631 (OP)
God you're such a clueless tourist with this newfag ass takes it hurts
You don't understand anything
Anonymous No.102589883 >>102589964
>>102589617
My, we may have found the SSR full art in the thread. Anon is not comparing flesh streamers and vtubers, he's comparing the simps of vtuber and the simps of flesh streamers. It was a nice try at avoiding the point, but throwing money at a woman online because they make you feel some sort of connection with them is absolutely retarded. Have you oshi and support her because you think she's talented, funny or because you want to see her succeed and be happy. Not because somewhere in your sick mind you imagine she's keeping her imaginary cunt ready for you. You're the sole person to blame for taking the path to mental illness over being reasonable.
Anonymous No.102589888 >>102589966 >>102589999
>>102589707
Anime and video games are fictional
Anonymous No.102589922
>>102589465
>to help a girl failure
Donations to streamers are by no means altruistic. This is a foolish post.
Anonymous No.102589964 >>102590103 >>102590247
>>102589883
Why’s it always “oh she’s not gonna fuck you chud” from you people. That has absolutely nothing to do with it, even the biggest unicorns do not actually think they have a chance with their oshi. It’s literally just about betraying your fans by getting into a relationship, she’s already getting her fan’s time and money and support. Getting with a guy absolutely betrays her fans that support her because that’s the whole idea, why support her in any way when she already has a man that gives her his time and money and support
Anonymous No.102589966 >>102590035
>>102589888
I don't know how to break this to you, but so are the characters played by vtubers. There is not, in fact, a singing Shinigami who plays Minecraft with a German robot and a talking cat.
Anonymous No.102589999 >>102590098 >>102590225
>>102589888
So are Vtubers, anon. They are an actor playing a character unto which they improv. A Vtuber is just as real as your common video game and anime waifu, they just paid an actress to roleplay as that character online. They did that streams with a Sonic vtuber for a while too. It's mental illness to turn this into some sort of relationship where every party knows full well there never was and never will be.
Anonymous No.102590005 >>102590065 >>102590161
>>102576631 (OP)
counterpoint, i paid for the vtuber, not the woman behind it.
Anonymous No.102590035
>>102589966
Uh yeah that’s how it should be, but the problem is that EN whores especially have blurred the lines between it being fiction and it just being an extension of themselves and bringing up their fucking relationships
Anonymous No.102590065
>>102590005
holy fucking true and on point picrel, saving this image
Anonymous No.102590098
>>102589999
There is a difference, thinking that it’s the same as gaming or whatever else is not true. Because in that case all the people being parasocial over her obsessing with her being married now, are just as bad then as anyone that does have a problem with it
Anonymous No.102590100
>>102576631 (OP)
Why does she live in a church?
Anonymous No.102590103 >>102590249
>>102589964
>even the biggest unicorns do not actually think they have a chance with their oshi.
Then why are you demanding exclusivity with her?
Anonymous No.102590161 >>102590728
>>102590005
This is the problem, vtubers were always meant to be fictional characters played by someone. But now that’s largely not the case, because normies were the ones that became too parasocial and wanted them to suddenly start talking about their relationships and real life shit
Anonymous No.102590225
>>102589999
They aren't actors, they can't act.
It used to be that actors played vtuber characters, but you guys decided you liked random twitch thots more.
Anonymous No.102590247 >>102590292
>>102589964
You're avoiding the point. If you really did not believe in this sick illusory relationship, then you wouldn't care that she's with another man at all.
You're very sick dude. Similar to trannies, the bubble that was built around parts of the vtubing community enforces and encourage this parasocial mental illness.
Think about it, saying that she betrayed her fans by getting into a relationship since she was already getting money and support from them. So you see yourself and her other fans as a substitute for her love life. It's betrayal because why support her if she already have a man that does ? So as soon as she got into a relationship, she ceased being funny, talented and interesting and worthy of support ? That is the very definition of a parasocial relationship. Either support the person because you like their content or don't. But come on now with the betrayal.
Anonymous No.102590249 >>102590480
>>102590103
Because the biggest paypigs and supporters for vtubers are single lonely men, it’s an industry that takes advantage of the male loneliness epidemic. By openly being in a relationship, she’s openly betraying her fans trust and support. It’s not that hard to understand, maybe it is for you people because you just hangout in echo chambers on reddit and shit but that’s just how it is
Anonymous No.102590250 >>102590349 >>102590402 >>102590611 >>102590688
>Wants to just watch anime girl be an anime girl
>Gets e-girl with anime avatar instead
>Not in character at all
>Barely watches or talks about anime
>Talking about her personal life for 2 hours
>Awful at games
>Dreadfully unfunny
>Eventually breaks all kayfabe entirely
>New fans keep telling old fans it's always been like this
>Tells you to stop being parasocial
>Old fans just want the Kizuna, Mirai and Kaguya days back
It's all so tiresome...
Anonymous No.102590292 >>102590520
>>102590247
Nobody said it wasn’t parasocial? It’s literally built on being parasocial, you people are just walking in circles trying to justify getting cucked lmao.
Anonymous No.102590349 >>102590425 >>102590728
>>102590250
It’s like every other industry that gets infiltrated by normies. “Oh it’s always been like this, and if it’s different than what it used to be then that’s good.” Happening now with them blaming idol culture on everything cause grrr evil idol culture keeps the girls from being themselves
Anonymous No.102590402 >>102590460 >>102590484 >>102590728
>>102590250
Ah and here's the oldfag and its red herring.
Vtuber got more popular. It does mean more fans, yeah. But it also means more Vtubers.
There's the Vshojo E-whore type and there's the Holojp Wholesome type and there's everything in between. Just watch what you like, anon. The JP side still sorta have that. Kinda. If you're just being nostalgic though, I don't really understand why you bring this up in this specific thread.
Anonymous No.102590425
>>102590349
That death of a hobby meme isn't a meme, it's a prophecy. Seen it happen too many times. I hate it, man.
Anonymous No.102590432
>>102576631 (OP)
the problem isn't her getting married, problem is her breaking the fantasy and sharing the fact.
Also, since naplings aren't her friends, why share personal life details with them? She wanted to laugh at her fans, ngl it's pretty fucking funny, had a blast reading all the cope, but it is rather cruel
Anonymous No.102590460
>>102590402
Why do you talk like a redditor trying their best to sound like you're from 4chan?
Anonymous No.102590480 >>102590594
>>102590249
>By openly being in a relationship, she’s openly betraying her fans trust and support.
Anon, you said
>Getting with a guy absolutely betrays her fans that support her because that’s the whole idea
So are you complaining about her openly being in a relationship or her being in one at all?
Anonymous No.102590484 >>102590675
>>102590402
The problem with “oh just watch what you like” is that these newfags demand change of the entire industry and completely fuck everything. Something going mainstream is never good, Hololive used to be filled with soul and fun but now it’s just a for profit corporate entity that has to skirt around YouTube’s gay rules and only thinking about how to max profit every quarter
Anonymous No.102590520 >>102590705 >>102590849
>>102590292
Getting cucked implies being emotionally invested in a romantic manner with someone. She's an online Jpeg puppeteer by an anonymous girl, anon. And it's built on parasocial solely because people make it parasocial. You think these girls you will never meet are asking you to fall in love with them ? You retards do it on your own and throw your money at them on top. Never stop an idiot from being separated from its money.
Anonymous No.102590594 >>102590747
>>102590480
It only matters if the person makes it public, and it makes no sense with Nimi who went on an anti-parasocial rant against her fans as Fauna but now suddenly wants to start sharing information about herself that she’s married and shit. Which is an inherently parasocial thing to do, main difference is that it caters to an entirely different group of people who worship celebrities and engage in shipping culture and other gay shit
Anonymous No.102590611 >>102590816
>>102590250
It is disturbing how many vtubers seem to have had only a brief past engagement with anime at the most surface level
Anonymous No.102590619 >>102590650
>>102576631 (OP)
It makes perfect sense, you're just refusing to see it because you want to act smug and superior about it. There has always been a certain level of parasocialism in this industry, and that's because primarily it started as something akin to being an online idol, they're playing a character, and generally the ones that get support are the ones who play as pure untouched and untouchable maidens. Or the ones who are the complete opposite, like bottom of the barrel sex starved sluts. Nimi had this fan base from hololive and should have known that announcing something like this would be upsetting for her fans. There is absolutely nothing wrong with feeling annoyed, upset and betrayed by it and choosing to drop support, because she let the mask slip and stopped playing the character we all were supporting. It's not to say she can't actually do anything, but this is an ignorance is bliss situation. Keep it to yourself and let us enjoy our illusion. So yes. Her career is over because she committed a taboo and crossed her work life with her personal life when none of us want that. And the ones giving unicorns and such crap everywhere for "daring" to be upset are massive, cuck faggots who deserve her doing this to them.
Anonymous No.102590650 >>102590751
>>102590619
this you?
Anonymous No.102590674
>>102577880
The streamers themselves play into it for profit you bad faith retard. Stop pretending this is one sided.
Anonymous No.102590675 >>102590765
>>102590484
At first I wanted to make a snarky comment but you're right to some degree. the massive marketing and shit flinging around each girls. The respect that the girls used to have for decorum. But then Yagoo made holo go public so, there's that. Every good things must come to an end.
Anonymous No.102590688
>>102590250
Kayfabe has always been bait and switch. It originated in carnivals where a boxer in a ring would call out for a challenger, if they managed to knock them down they would get a big money prize. A member of the audience would volunteer and they would be called up, and they would win quite easily, that audience member was a plant. Next they would call for a new challenger, a genuine audience member would volunteer, but they would have their ass beat and lose their money.
That's the origin of kayfabe, and from that to pro wrestling, tricking people into thinking there is some semblance of reality to it, to the kayfabe of politics, it has always been a gimmicky bait and switch.
So dropping kayfabe entirely is actually a good thing. That way their bait and switch scamming won't work as well. If you thought that it meant deep character acting then you were sorely mistaken, character acting is an art for the purpose of putting on a good performance for entertainment, and no ulterior motives. It's the opposite of kayfabe.
Kayfabe is and always has been a kind of scam.
Anonymous No.102590705 >>102590851
>>102590520
Idk how many times this needs to be said to you people, but the entire industry has always been built on being parasocial in some way. Nobody is expecting to actually get with them, it’s always about a desire to get into relationships from YOU people not the ones upset about this. It’s a clear betrayal of fans’ trust, expectations, and support. If she wants to be a normal fag in a relationship, then she can just be a trad wife instead of trying to continue milking lonely men who are now gonna drop her and have her be left with “fans” that only support her for real life shit and her relationship
Anonymous No.102590714
>>102576631 (OP)
the tourists have taken over and call themselves weebs and degens
Anonymous No.102590728 >>102590843
>>102590402
we don't inherently view infinite growth, diversity/variety and popularity as axiomatically noble and good things here you fucking ledditnigger tourist, go back and kill yourself
having more fans and more types of vtuber is bad, actually
>>102590161
>>102590349
*normalfags
Anonymous No.102590747
>>102590594
>Which is an inherently parasocial thing to do
Anon, people will tell strangers they're getting married. There's people who are parasocial with their chat but sharing major life news that could impact the content is not parasocial.
Anonymous No.102590751 >>102590779
>>102590650
No, that's how you react to everyone leaving her because she's a deceitful where. We're upset sure, and also grieving the loss of a creator we enjoyed. But it's people like you going on some weird moral crusade about it.
Anonymous No.102590765
>>102590675
Literally just watch not-A Chan’s return video where she went from being in a happy company that cared about having fun and prioritizing the talents, into just another for-profit corporate entity that only cares about shareholders and numbers
Anonymous No.102590779 >>102590797
>>102590751
>deceitful where
huh? where's that
Anonymous No.102590797 >>102590812
>>102590779
Whatever I misspelled it, you get the idea.
Anonymous No.102590812
>>102590797
no i dont, clearly you're doing a poor job convincing me
Anonymous No.102590816
>>102590611
When you don't gatekeep and filter the shit out, you end up with undrinkable water. Once camgirls and random normies found out how easy it was to be a vtuber, seeing vtubers that barely even have entry level knowledge appearing in places like even Hololive was not a shock.
Anonymous No.102590843
>>102590728
Where the fuck did I mention infinite growth, diversity/variety and popularity as being noble in any way you fucking parasocial cuck ? Learn to read and try again.
Anonymous No.102590849
>>102590520
Terrible analysis of the situation. Easily answered by >>102583125
So yes, they clearly encourage viewers to enter a parasocial relationship with the implicit promise to maintain the fantasy in exchange for money.
Anonymous No.102590851
>>102590705
>If she wants to be a normal fag in a relationship, then she can just be a trad wife instead of trying to continue milking lonely men who are now gonna drop her and have her be left with “fans” that only support her for real life shit and her relationship
She told people she's getting married, so the people that want to watch her for parasocial reasons are properly informed and can stop watching her now if they want to.