Gay as Hell Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/Ouroboros_609/status/1945723408953795028

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102580163

>>102584635 (OP)
Still doesn't add Mint. What are you doing?

100% rrat on my end: I'm going to assume the "idol gen" wasn't a proper gen in the sense that they would all join VShojo. It could have been just mint who was /in/, but she would be involved with a small group that did things together and Mariya would have been a perfect fit for that. Add in VShojo and V4M's close relationship and honestly I can 1,000% see it.

no mint, no other joiners that were actually under contract.... is op retard ?

>>102584679
Wait this was supposed to be a reply to a post from last thread oops >>102584585

To what extent did Mata, Geega, and Zen realize the dark truth behind Vshojo?

I love lewd waifu Mouse
I love Mouse

>>102584692
They're extremely autistic about the OP. Good luck changing it. The Mikeneko fans tried for like a year straight.

kpon

>>102584711
Geega began her deep dive into the intricacies of the financial status of vshojo after Matara told her why she was fired (for telling them to pay Mint).

>>102584730
Mikeneko fans were bitching because they didn't want to be associated with VShojo and even made threads on occasion to slightly misspell their thread's name so no one would be able to find them using the link.

>>102584757
I suspect GTARP was because “fuck it I’m not getting paid anyway”

How many apology gift subs will you be giving?

>>102584672
The company is dead and you're still trying to leech off of Mint

if gunrun had saba i'll die of laugh

Were Novas also not paid or they managed to avoid this shit? I kinda missed this detail.

>>102584672
If we add Mint then we have to add Pia, Beri and Tori too. They all signed the contract but didn't make their status as vshojo members official yet.

I say don't add anyone (for now?)
If this thread is still a thing in a week or two and people watch them and want to discuss them then we can think about adding them again.

>>102584802
I appreciate it being right for ex vshojo

>>102584672
Mint never even debuted bro let it go

>>102584757
More like Matara pointed out that Matara wasn't getting paid. Don't forget she's very business minded.

>>102584797
Why didn’t she like the charity?
Even Vei did.

Now you remember what Kuro said about not being ready for what's to come

>>102584843
Given everything we've seen he was fucking right. Monster girl gen looked fly as fuck and it just died in the womb. RIP.

>>102584797
I will give my twitch prime to Peke because I'm worried about Nova.
I never shat on Silver, so I have nothing to apologize for.

>>102584797
Zero unless she publicly apologizes

>>102584866
I think he was talking about what's happening right now.

>>102584797
Gently and passionate anal sex with lots of kissing with silvervale.

>>102584672
Nobody cares about mint. Hush.

>>102584668
>>102584741
Why is Nazuna/Mikeneko a racist?

>>102584814
I kind of want to see the shitstorm that would cause if Saba makes a statement.

On the other hand I don't there to be even more victims.

>>102584672
What is the point of adding Mint to the OP? Her fans will not come here to talk about her. Just to brag that at some point she maybe could have joined? That's retarded and evil, considering how VShojo treated her.

>>102584911
I'm pretty sure he was speaking positively at the time but it would also be fucking funny if he meant all this lol

>>102584797
I will donate my semen to Silver's womb

>>102584928
She might just be really stupid

>>102584886
A prime sub is literally telling the streamer they're not worth a real one. Why would you bully her in this time, of all times? There's no way you're struggling over five dollars, so it can only be taken as a statement.

>>102584928
>when will they collab
ahh I remember the endless nazuna racist threads, fun times

>>102584866
I have a huge slime girl fetish and Pia is absolutely perfect for my tastes. Thank god I can watch her anyway now that I know about her, but I would have loved to see her collab with the girls.

>>102584929
eh I mean even if she is a victim in the sense that things were fucked up for her, she's still doing perfectly fine on her own. The victims I want to see get actual justice for are Nova + the ones who made it through auditions.

>>102584928
Pretty normal for a jap actually

>>102584974
Tons of streamers beg for people to use their prime subs all the time. A prime sub is still giving the streamer money. Why would I not use it?

>>102584928
She's just really dumb. That or Henya's white genes might actually be strong enough that you'd mistake her for a whitey unless you give it more than a passing glance.

>>102584911
He said positive exciting things

NOVA didn't get money from their debut merch, it was supposed to pay for their debut.

Even in the state of drama she can't even reach 4 views. What type of future are waiting for her?

>>102584998
Doesnt nazuna claim to be part russian or some shit

>>102585029
It is what I expected after kson and henya said they weren't paid

>>102584711
Geega probably spotted common pre sinking ship patterns
Zen might have more dark secrets herself from what I've heard (not about allegedly being a dude or allegedly hating mouse or sponsorship drama but some actually bad stuff)
But lets wait for the full sinkage and public leaks

>>102585029
What the fuck was this devil of a company man

>>102585014
You understand when someone is being sarcastic, right? They talk about prime subs and thank people that make prime subs to call them out and make them feel bad. It's really not subtle at all.

>>102585039
she probably rationalizes it that she's not noticeably mixed.

>>102585056
>Geega probably spotted common pre sinking ship patterns
The staff exodus probably told her all she needed.

>>102585056
>Zen might have more dark secrets herself from what I've heard (not about allegedly being a dude or allegedly hating mouse or sponsorship drama but some actually bad stuff)
Zen's an illegal immigrant confirmed.
Someone call la migra on him/her/it

>>102585029
>NOVA didn't get money from their debut merch, it was supposed to pay for their debut.
Fuck and now I remember Nagi talking about eating cheap junk food and skipping meals and Peke talking about not using her heater in winter to save on costs.
Stealing from literal poorfag girls.

>>102585029
They'd better get on creating that NuShojo train and redebuting fast. I want to know they'll be fine.
>>102585017
Regardless of Henya's actual appearance you'd have to see her IRL to make that judgment and I'd assume Nazuna never did. She was likely basing it entirely off of her English skills.

>>102584916
But Silver hates anal

Btw bankruptcies are public record, list of creditors owed might be very bad for the talents

>>102585047
Not going far with that but if some of them did get paid sometimes unofficially e.t.c. why would they admit to that now?

>>102585116
>She was likely basing it entirely off of her English skills.
Or that she was primarily engaging in English before switching to Japanese.

>>102584949
Didn't he already have a meeting to plan his exit a few weeks ago? I think he meant good for his fans.

>>102585084
I'm not talking about thanking subs, I'm talking about streamers reminding viewers that they get a free twitch sub if they have amazon prime and encouraging them to use it on their channel.
A prime sub is still money for the streamer, why would they discourage it. As far as I know the only difference is that prime subs don't count towards partner milestones.

>>102585161
He did but I think he was saying that stuff before that point so I'd assume he was talking about good things. I could have that timeline wrong though

Hotaru should adopt Nagi and Peke and feed them well until thins stabilize.

>>102585029
Makes a lot of sense with the timeline we have now.
Money issues already existed and the 3 models are all high quality and VERY personalized

>>102585133
Silvervale Painal

>>102585107
Don't worry though, the executives still got paid so if you think of it terms of total human suffering, it's pretty fair.

>>102584711
Honestly, probably not that much aside from what they themselves have personally dealt with.
Given what Vei and Nyan have said this org was run like garbage for years basically, but VShojo did a good job at preventing the members from finding out issues that happened to other members for a long time
Maybe Geega could have sensed something was off early on. Zen certainly didn't since she had the opportunity to not renew her contract 2 years ago along with those 3 and she still renewed it anyway lol

>Mel admitting to abusing her employees on Twitter
Wow, we've fallen so far...

Ngl I have to recognize Sayu's contributions to boosting Vshojo with the Niji retirement home PR stunt. She really did get shafted

>>102585187
I don't think she has enough milk.

>>102585226
She's the culprit

>>102585219
Zen was very much on the fence when first 3 left, if she had jumped ship the house of cards would have fallen years ago

>>102585193
Rude

>>102585234
she applied for vshojo and was rejected, that's her only contribution. the rest is just her delusions.

>>102585219
>>102585264
VSJ tried a lot of guilt tripping tactics to keep Nyan during the renewals. It didn't work, but they very likely pulled the same sort of tricks onto Zen and Mouse which they were successful in

>>102585303
She didn't apply she was in direct talks with gunrun

>>102585305
Didn't work because Nyan's dead dad came to her in a dream and told her to leave.

>>102585305
The way they manipulate Michi and Henya 's weak mentality. I will never forgive them. Gunrun and his staff.

>>102585219
i will never believe they were all somehow ignorant, this shit is unbelievable
the sole fact that even those that quit over not being paid, still pretended like everything was fine and "teehee I'm just moving on to new opportunities :)" even though staff is being let go left and right shows exactly how much intentions they had to expose this pyramid scheme.

>>102585334
RRAT: Gunrun swatted the Cookie stream

>>102585343
>Yea we need more purple retards in the org!
Boy I read that after Geega left and it sure backfired hard. Certainly a darker meaning now.

Honestly impressed that Vei was such a bad bitch to claw back the money she was owed

>>102585264
If it weren't for the threat of NDAs we could have probably seen Vei, Silver, and Nyan easily convince Zen and Mouse back then to leave. VShojo would have been dead a long time ago by now and this whole mess could have been avoided at least

Apparently the COO deleted their LinkedIn account.

>>102585389
Yeah but then we wouldn't have gotten the platinum age of 2023 VShojo. And given how good that time was I'm considering saying it was worth it

>>102585419
which one is that

>>102585334
She actually said that didn't she?
Nyan's dead dream dad might have started the end of vshojo lol

>>102585234
I think the niji poaching would have happened one way or another.
This guy was clearly intent on getting every major indie possible, so why wouldn't he try to grab them? at best you could say it accelerated the process since he started trying i poach them while they were still in niji

all that being said its funny that sayu had a hand in getting matara a vshojo spot, considering matara's ghosting of her

>>102585326
she applied way back in 2022 before even joining nijisanji

>>102585427
Apek, who has been mysterious since founding.

>>102585419
Hes also the CFO on record and an actual lawyer lmao, Gunrun has to throw him under the bus to survive

>>102585445
I agree. They were still mainly interested in poaching friends of the mouse so Mata and Kuro were more obvious choices.

>>102585445
I'm just saying I feel bad for her but apparently that's a bad thing now

>>102585373
We just knew nothing really shady until Mouse dropped the atomic bomb.

So who are the secret assholes? Gun, apek, mtd?

>>102585496
Panini and Mowtendoo quitting should have been alarm bells

The fact that Michi made this for everyone, she was so passionate :(

>>102585514
>secret

Anyone know where Gunrun is right now?
If you do, report it to the FBI.

>>102585305
It was only after Nyan indulged in a full bottle of champagne and a tin of caviar courtesy of Gunrun that she said she was quitting Vshojo.

>>102585514
MTD just wants to make dumb edits, paint his nails and drain balls at the MAGFest orgy rooms.

>>102585389
Would that have been a better outcome? I mean, the company wouldn't have been able to steal from people, but we also wouldn't have gotten all the good things. Mata, Kuro and Michi wouldn't have had their post-graduation success on the same level, Nova would still be 2views, etc. I'm glad we got to enjoy those things while it lasted.

>>102585496
lol no there were signs something was off at least 2 years ago although it only really started to get noticeable this past year

>>102585524
They bravely put their feet down after only 8 months of no talent payments of any kind and years of shortchanging and delays before that. They may even be heros.

>>102584635 (OP)
Where are all the Gunrun shills/dick-riders at now? You Vshojofaggots were constantly glazing him, where are you at now, huh?

>>102585524
There were rrats but nobody believed them.
I said a rrat that Mouse was leaving after her “heartbreaking” comments but nobody believed me.

>>102585569
I don't have a single gunrun image saved in my folders.

>>102585569
>We didn't know can't blame us

>>102585564
>8 months
If you go by Vei’s reckoning, more like 4 years

>>102585551
Yea using the talents' money

>>102585555
Who knows what would have happened?
Yeah a lot of good things came from VShojo surviving this long like all that you've pointed. But we'll never really know what that other timeline would have been like

>>102585540
Gunrun is now on a beach somewhere on a Caribbean island, enjoying the company of Latina girls like Mouse

>>102585524
Yeah, Panini leaving actually made me wonder "what the fuck is happening" for a bit, because everyone seemed to love Panini and the talents always said nice things about her.

>>102585133
That is why it'll be gentle, loving and passionate anal, so she learns to love it.

>>102585569
Just reminded me that Bat said she wouldn't mind joining Vshojo after the "problems" left (Nyan, Vei, and Silver). She fell for that shit too.

>>102585569
I am 50% sure all the dickriding was done by actual vshojo employes

>>102584886
I also give Peke my prime, they get a better cut with prime iirc

>>102585619
Maybe in another timeline Vshojo is dominating EN with this Dream Team: >>102584635 (OP)

>>102585647
Bat is retarded, but that was already known

MTD has been real quiet since he knows he still has equity whats 20% of $0 lmao

I don’t want to go check but are there really anons in the catalog false flagging as diehard vshojo fans? Kek

>>102585569
Gunrun masked his true self with a smile, making him seem like a trustworthy man

>>102585676
always has been

>bat image
>the dumbest you've ever seen

>>102585702
i've seen dumber images

>>102585661
The timeline where gunrun actually hired a competent finance team

>>102585676
Who even cares anymore lol? There's no VShojo left for them to even make look bad. We're no longer VShojo fans but just fans of our respective indies.

>>102585683
The backpacks are doing fine actually even Kai was using Gunrun backpacks along with the literal CEO of Twitch, VShojo just ended up being way bigger than he had ever planned for, the real question is how much was he making decisions or was he completely checked out
XShojos/staff needs to not be pussies and just say who has calling the shots

>>102585742
Isn't it interesting the faggot hired all kinds of bullshit positions, but never finance? Almost like it's designed to look like incompetence instead of fraud.

>>102585687
Yeah but now, really.
I don’t think anyone here still legitimately supports vshojo the company

Fellas... I bought VShojo from Gunrun a week ago. What the fuck do I do?

>>102585802
You owe me a sexy slime girl debut and a cute ghost maid debut.

>>102585802
Oof

I blame all of this on vei for not warning the other girls years ago a true friend should be willing to break the law and go to jail for them

>>102585780
They hired some dumbass kid fresh out of UoMiami to handle the books, never underestimate incompetence

>>102585802
Get Mouse to start a fansly and give it a week, you will have enough money to fix everything.

>>102585676
No, they’re too busy making cuck threads.

>>102585830
They can't read their own contracts?

>wake up
>am behind on 4-5 threads
FUCK

>>102585830
I think VShojo would have ended much sooner if they picked up filian when she sent that random e-mail to Gunrun years ago. Filian wouldn't have given a fuck about breaking the NDA.

I, former /vsj+/kek, humbly kneel and apologize to the following people:
Silvervale-sama
Vei-sama
Nyanners-sam
Matara-sama
Geega-sama
Zentreya-sama

>>102585683
Thats why they call him the gunrun

They all put their blood, sweat and tears into vshojo just to be treated like utter dogshit
I doubt they'll get their money but I hope there are serious consequences for everyone involved

>>102585927
Nice try ligfag.

>>102585927
What about her

At this point, who haven't they tried to put under contract at some point?

>>102585676
it is and has always been nijiholofag projection, it's how they would act if every nijiholo member left

>>102585966
who

>>102585966
Mike has her own legal shit to worry about

>>102585973
Yeah I can believe that.
I’ve never cared about vshojo for any other reason that the talents I like were in it.

>>102585966
>raids your stream

>>102585970
Me. Still waiting for my envelope to arrive, but I guess it will never come.

*Sniffles* P... Please come back... I... I.. Can pay you guys back by the end of next month at the latest! *Gives you puppy dog eyes*

>>102585961
we're all ligfags now, anon, whether you like it or not

I have to say Vshojo was actually way better at creating a narrative than Holo or Niji

>>102586035
Prove it by posting bat

>>102586035
Not me I’m a mousefag and right now I’m proud of that.

>>102586055
all the money went to PR merchants

>>102586064
ok
https://files.catbox.moe/1rrmqv.png

>>102585927
How many tubs of Sakura Splash have you bought as an apology

>>102586103
I'm sorry, silver-sama, but I have never bought anyones merch, and probably never will

>>102586092
You are a true ligger

>>102586127
who?

For anyone who is sad and depressed you can listen to this peak:
https://youtu.be/4mYo0L2eIzg?si=VkfK45ScgkitbSKh

>>102586146
this is not /vsj+/, squatter, go cry somewhere else

>>102585683
>trusting a techbrofaggot
Man, you Vshojotards are retarded. lol

>>102586146
APOLOGIZE

>>102585966
Nazuna is a racist — she’s the one who used to bully Henya when they were in school

>>102586180
Don’t look up fishman’s career

All Vshojo had to do was handle the merch right and get the money straight, but apparently they were allergic to making their own core business model work. They had everything else going for them. Fucking classic tech startup story.

>>102586055
Wrong. no one can beat hololive at creating zealots. Some holodrones anon don't even know what's happening around /vt/ and are just focused on Nimi getting married. You can't beat that shit dude.
Next come nijisanji; their sisters would lit defend rape.

>>102586180
Come kiss your papa, batson

>>102586204
>straight
We like them gay

Why do people sometimes talk about the org dissolving as meaning that most of the talent will never stream together again? Like Nova will all keep streaming, but independantly, and they won't even interact anymore? Why wouldn't they still do things together?

>>102586204
The founders were a twitch streamer, a CS player turned lawyer, and a guy that made youtube poops, they needed a straight laced dude that could actually run operations

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>>102586200
All corpos are scams.

>>102586225
When is this guy getting outed as a sexpest? It's basically inevitable.

>>102586261
Outside of Nova they barely ever streamed together in the first place.

>>102586218
Even when there is shit going doing with vshojo they can rightfully shit on them for they still for some reason just start to make shit up.

>>102586277
I really need to work on putting some of my Mouse archive online.

>>102586261
Zen was the only source of unity in this org

>>102586261
This will never happen again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W-XKhyRS0c

>>102584797
name more annoying cuckbase than silverfags

>>102586337
phasecucks

>>102586305
This, especially one on one collabs.

>>102586281
Never EVER. He's happily married and knotting his smoking hot vtuber wife DAILY.

>>102586337
Saplings? Give me a harder one.

>>102586337
pyropups

Froot has not raped me today :)

>>102586183
to who?

>>102586305
I'd be very surprised if we see Zen collab with Mouse or Henya any time soon.

>>102586422
APOLOGIZE. RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.

>>102586418
My condolences, I'm sure she will be feeling up to it soon.

I refuse to believe Gunrun is an actual bad person. I've known him way before this vtuber thing. Dude had always a helping hand. She was just bad at managing vtubers or was just too ambitious and naive. If he was a cutthroat CEO he would have done what that Idol owner did and sell everything to some public company for cheap back in 2022

>>102585464
isn't there a rrat that claims he's melody's bf or husband and that's why he's completely off the radar

Going forward it would be great if one of them builds up a Minecraft server asap to keep the social connection going, possibly include also the undebuted members just to keep it rolling instead of everyone curling up into a ball of sadness in their own little corner

>>102586463
He inherited something like 70 million dollars in property from his family and decided to play at being a CEO with it. He's not as ruthless as someone who clawed his way into the position, but that doesn't mean he's actually a good person. It's just that it's play money for him, so he can be lighthearted about it all.

>>102586463
When you run out of money and the bills are due, people do bad things.

>>102586463
He's ultimately responsible and didn't even apologize or be transparent with the issues in the company, there's no way around it.

>>102584733
That's one bad mother trucker.

>>102585569
We want him dead now.
Is that not obvious to you?
How is this even a question?

>>102586520
Yes but we don't know the rest. He could have told some of the talents that they were in the red. There is no way Mouse, Zen and Mel didn't know about the business side of things. I'm just speculating here.

>>102586463
At some point it crosses the line from just being bad at it to being manipulative, deceptive and exploitive.
The proper comparison is someone like Elizabeth Holmes or SBF. These people probably believed in what they were doing. But they were also frauds who stole a shitload of people's money. I wouldn't call them (or gunrun) good people even if they had good intentions, because they were willing to lie and steal to pursue those plans.

>It was bad, but then it got worse
Vshojo

>>102586512
People don’t understand how easy it is to get in a bad situation and just burry your head in the sand. Which makes things worse.

>>102586337
You lost

>>102586463
The vshojo business model was bad for vshojo as a company from the start. If they took a percentage from the girls donations they would have been fine. It's simply that vshojo talents become WAY TOO RICH to be handled with small potato administrative work. Vshojo expanding without a big cut from their talents was a bad business move. Good on paper bad on pratice.

>>102586584
The worst is yet to come, we still don’t know the stuff they can’t tell us.
I’m waiting for the NDAs to get nuked

>>102586463
We LOVE Gunrun

>>102586568
>He could have told some of the talents that they were in the red.
I seriously doubt it. He just stopped paying them after all instead of trying to negotiate again.
If you want me to speculate he was likely terrified of a repeat of the first vshojo exodus.

>>102586463
Refuse all you want, but the logic is quite simple:
(1) Before Monday, he was a person who was known to have done very bad things.
(2) Now he is a person known to have done very bad things.

You want to get nitpicky about how many bad actions make "an actual bad person" in their totality? Go ahead. I don't need to. I'm already comfortable calling him an actual bad person.

What is Gunrun doing now?

>>102586630
Nah they just had to spend less money.

>>102586463
Refuse all you want, but the logic is quite simple:
(1) Before Monday, he was not known to have done very bad things.
(2) Now he is a person known to have done very bad things.

You want to get nitpicky about how many bad actions make "an actual bad person" in their totality? Go ahead. I don't need to. I'm already comfortable calling him an actual bad person.

>>102586463
Look at this Vshojotard. LMAO

>>102586662
True but they were ambitious, they had the golden goose and they had to be quick.

>>102586630
And yet you have people like Lily complaining that they wanted too much money from her. It's obvious that taking an even bigger cut would make it completely possible to pursue the strategy of hiring big talents, they would have had to switch over to hiring 2-low3views like Japanese corporations do.

>Filian unfollowed Gunrun a week ago

>>102586334
I'm just glad that it did happen and it was peak

>>102586659
He's in my room.

>>102586725
erm, it was lethal company, akshually

>>102586706
I think the real issue with Lily is that they tried to touch revenue sources that they have no involvement in like her Gamersupps income.

>>102586681
>bat.png
I have never seen such dedicated posters for someone so ugly irl.

>>102586712
Boring
Would be more funny if they donated 1 cent

Did Froot go quiet for months because she found out the truth about Vshojo?

>>102586775
no, it was just a detox from internet in general

>>102586712
Glad to see the chauffeur of Gunrun's limousine donate his tip.

>>102586760
This
Orca's main problem (besides restrictions and Vshojo taking 50%) was the fact Vshojo wanted a cut from profits NOT RELATED to Vshojo

>>102586764
It's mainly one retard. This guy is probably a larper though, he's just using her emotes instead of a folder with thousands of bat images.

>>102586721
wadewaduuuude
>>102586775
Oficially She forgor

glad to hear Hotaru in good spirits at least

>>102584911
>>102585161
He said big, exciting things were coming way before July 7th, the oof day. He said it was things even he wouldn’t expect and big enough to the point you’d find out about it even if you weren’t actively looking for it. He was very excited and focused on streaming, then suddenly lost his enthusiasm and went on streaming breaks after the oofening. So yes, the big things he was referring to were most likely what we found out about yesterday and possibly more since multiple members were recording something at the same time.

>>102586827
we love the Nova girls here

the knowledge that Vshojo actually had the opportunity to become far bigger than Hololive even and squandered it all is maddening

>>102586850
it's always the managements fault, they fumbled an EZ dub

>>102586850
Let's not get ahead of ourselves lol

>>102586850
Even if no Vshojo member quit and we got all of the new debuts they would be not as big as Hololive.
Unless you mean HoloEN.

I'm glad Vshojo is dead. All of you faggots were constantly /in/posting, it was annoying as fuck. You fags were always saying "le vshojo model is le future of vtubing" and being all cocky. Now Vshojo has been exposed as a scam and all that bravado is gone. Now I don't have to worry about my favorite vtubers being manipulated into joining this dogshit group. Also, Vshojo has done anything of significance. It will only be remembered as what it really is, a scam.

>>102586887
nimi was a fucking snake, she rode the chaos mouse started to announce her marriage

>>102586891
HoloEN definitely, especially after their exodus

>>102586916
I'm going to continue to /in/post

>>102586887
Mouse could teach Nimi one or two things about pregnancy

>>102586925
Not everything revolves around Ironmouse. This is like narcissism by proxy.

Music box of fate will be the OST what happened this week I guess

>>102586939
Gunrun is /in/ (the lawsuit)

>>102586939
Good luck with that. It has no backing anymore.

>>102586827
It's a shame how it all ended, and that VShojo scammed everyone, but joining was still a net positive in the end for most of them. All the Novas will come out of it much bigger and with more connections than what they had before. Nagi's past life had donation goals for food.

>>102586959
video should be out in the next day or two unless mouse decides to delay it.

Every time Geega says something I don't agree with I load up 5 tabs of elf doujins and jerk off to them as I say "thank you geega i love you"

>>102586850
Stretching it a bit, but they could have firmly been #3.

>>102586964
I will adapt and /in/post chuubas to join an annoying overcrowded Zen discord call

>>102586925
She donated 10k tho

>>102586916
at least we had a place /in/ your head

>>102586916
This is why I want the group to comeback just to annoy fags like you.

>>102586939
/in/ the new indie group

>>102586925
Go away.

Nothing good came out of this shit org

>>102586829
SOURCE???

>>102586916
I'm going to /in/die post all the corpo vtubers until they all become indies. I'll become the biggest indie tribalfag.

>>102586850
Most hololive members have expiration date so when it collapses they wouldn't even have that
>>102586964
It is, the problem that everyone in this thread is /out/ and alleged new scam corpo hasn't formed yet

Mouse should make her own vshojo and call it vshoujo

>>102586887
Didn’t Mouse claim that she doesn’t believe in marriage?

>>102586916
Rent free /in/ your head.

>>102586827
Peke had food poisoning on vacation...

>>102587002
>>102587013
>>102587019
Buckbroken Vsjtards, you're corpo is dead and will remain dead. Vshojo will be remembered as nothing but a scam. The org imploding will be the only thing significant that came out I f this shit corpo. You lost, big time.

>>102587040
not honoring a numberbrown crosslink ref

>>102587040
I'm gonna guess: 20% from yesturday's stream, 40% made up shit and 40% compilations from those threads
>>102587083
It's just called being polite

>>102587110
>you're

>>102587083
she said she's not into marriage herself, she's not against others marrying

>>102584635 (OP)
vshojo will be remembered for doing nothing of value lol

>>102587040
I made it up

So who's going to jail/bankrupt?
>gunrun for obvious reasons
>apek (who might be mel's husband)
>mtd
>rio
>otter
Am i missing someone?

>>102587110

>>102587110
I didn't watch vshojo i watched some vtubers who will continue streaming

>>102587161
Me for violating Henya

loutlot is Henya's husband

>>102587097
the org imploding in the middle of your vacation and now you get food poisoning, how unlucky

>>102587110
you are coming into a bar and complain about the building while we only ever came here for the booze.

retard

>>102587083
She hates marriage but people complaining bullied her out of sharing her opinion on it.
I think she should just speak her mind

>>102586827
>hotaru said NOVA can continue to stream as an indie.
>They didn't get paid for the debut merch they sold

>>102587097
can't believe gunrun traveled to japan to try and kill Peke...

>>102587110
>the corpo declaring they're meta corpo and that most conventional corpos are scam
>people supportted the creators and the idea that corpos are shit
>at some point it turned into scamy conventional corpo
We were wrong for sure
>>102587192
Same

>>102587040
That's actually a rare case of everything in a /#/ post being true. It's actually even worse if you directly watch the VOD of Nyan talking about it for a couple of hours while Vei adds a lot of context in chat. I also wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't watched Nyan's stream.
https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners/v/2519681271?sr=a&t=3436s

since when was Yocci this stacked, wtf

I'm glad pink cat is on topic again

>>102587411
she always drew herself with huge tits RTX accurate

Realistically if all the people who signed the ndas all broke them what could they do?

>>102587474
is that a..

Two things I’ve realized.
The shit we have the leavers and current talents when vshojo was still a thing is a result of management running out of money.
Mouse's sponsor spam for instance. She had to do it to keep the company going.
Secondly you retards do that retard thing again. When the leavers left you all dreamed up the most retarded rrats ever why they left. Those rrats are now slain but now you go ahead and over correct and make up retarded rrats about every vei anti being a vshojo staff member just because soda is retarded and believes anything.

I'm already starting to feel it. The thread is going to degenerate into bait and loops again when we run out of drama content to talk about.

>>102587493
Vshojo Death Squads will personally hunt them down

>>102587474
truly, the return of an era

>>102587521
>>102587183

>>102587536
I don’t know about you’re death squads but mine won’t work for free.

>>102585915
Filian and Mint went to Japan at the same time earlier this year
Filian even said that she's learning japanese and her dream was to move to japan
i bet she was about to join vshojo
also remember that hilarious merch tweet Filian made where Mint said "can't wait to do business with you!" ?

>>102587493
Take some loan to hire some law firm and try to enforce it. Let it sink.

>>102587493
they don't have any money to hunt everyone down

FUCJK MY LIFE ARE YOU KIDDING ME MINT AND MAYBE SABA
I guess I apologize to Mata. And Panini again.
FUCK YOU GUNRUN

>>102587590
>you now remember Filian asking Henya about a cockroach joining Vshojo

>>102587620
>chat: are you going to collab with Saba?
>Filian: whoooo knoooows *wink*

>>102587613
That’s what I’m thinking, there have got the be over a hundred people with NDAs if they just all leaked then wtf can they do.

>>102587613
But potential to sue out new 800k or how much is it now might be enough for those lawyers

>>102587645
not to mention. won't that lead to vshojo getting researched and to discovery?

>>102587521
this place just thrives off hyperbole

>>102587645
Make money by suing them all. It's better to just wait until Vshojo naturally dies which should probably happen this or next month.

Did Vei donate to the charity?

>>102587493
What is there even left to say? Everyone's already aired out the dirty laundry except for... Zen?
The "stop giving a fuck about an un-enforceable NDA" step already happened for most of them (way too late, thanks for letting all those new recruits get scammed too, selfish cunts)

>>102587614
There's no way Saba's vagueposting was about this.
There's no way Gunrun actually managed to poach Gura.
On the other hand yesterday I would've also called the "Mint is /in/" posters delusional and I guess I was wrong about that one.
Still. Gura of all people. No.

>>102587706
vei needs the money for weed and pet food

>>102587645
It's also unprofessional to leak it completely because why the fuck would anyone want to work with bunch of dramafags in the future?

>>102587493
NDA that covers trade secrets and buisness plans that need to be private can be enforced. Broad NDA that says you can never talk about the company at all, or what you were paid or etc isn't. But challenging that as an individual is scary because it means breaking it, then getting sued, then going to court where it's overturned entirely or in part. The fact that employers routinely force people to sign overbroad NDA that they know for a fact would not hold up, and depend on the threat of suing anyway is crazy. I can't believe people tolerate it. I know people don't always push back or even know they can, but anyone trying to make you sign something like this is going to be trying to take advantage in multiple other ways. It should be a glaring red flag.

>>102587752
because the "dramafags" in question make up the entirety of vtubing at this point

I don't expect them to become friends again or even collab again regularly, but one last pink love collab where Mouse and Nyan honestly talk about their time in VShojo would be cool.

>>102587752
calm down mtd

>>102587365
This is an atrocious list of things for a "group of friends" and "this company is like a family". How the hell didn't Ironmouse or Zen or any other member figure it out sooner? Was it that easy to trick them into thinking mostly positive things for years about this snake pit? No matter how anal the NDA stuff, they should have at least hinted to each other in an indirect, casual way that something is not right.

>>102587722
Well Mouse specifically has said there's more she can't talk about. Also Mata hasn't explained the circumstances of her termination. But I'm not sure we really need more revelations right now, there's plenty of stuff that we still need to process.

i'm glad this shit is dead
you tards deserve this
vshojo has brought nothing but the worst of vtubing
rest in piss and shit vshojo

>>102587725
He's a master manipulator. Probably gave her an insanely good contract with no intentions to ever pay her.

>>102587824
All the vtubers are still here and will continue streaming. The org going down in flames is not going to unwhore our whores.
You'll still hear from us, same as before.

I've thought it through, and there's only one path forward:
Gunrun has to debut as a VTuber under VShojo and stream on Chaturbate.
He’ll squeeze every last dollar from men around the world and lead VShojo into a brand new golden age.

>>102587840
i hated everything about the org and it's trashy culture
i have no problem with the members outside of petty reasons
vshojo will no longer hurt or ruin anyone anymore
rest is dogshit vshojo you will no be missed

Good mornig
The little v is gone

Retrospectively thinking....Mouse is powerful man.... Shit is frightening and impressive.

>>102587804
It's hard to recognize this stuff when you're in the thick of it. Every job comes with some level of bullshit, you're not going to quit at the first sign of something going wrong, and when it happens repeatedly you get used to it. They also felt like other people in the company were depending on them (both staff and talents) and were actively guilttripped by management to keep them /in/.

>>102587824
The pink V being gone changes nothing, and your whores will continue to pretend to be seiso. Now eat your pagpag.

>>102587904
What culture are you talking about?

>>102587905
Someone teach this dummy about uBlock Origin.

BUY MER oh yeah right

>>102587804
I truly do not believe for a second they were all ignorant lol. Even Mint felt the need to lowkey call it out. But I don't think you'll ever convince the masses that miss "Vtubing Jesus", or anyone else for that matter, was passively complicit, there will always be plausible deniability

>>102587910
>Mouse is powerful man
But she's a woman...

>>102587929
vshojo was the nazi germany of vtubing
it's symbol and culture will be dismantled and shunned
you lost

>>102587905
couldn't be my demi goddess

love these tourists not understanding anything about how any of this works

Where's Vei and Silver?

>>102587970
Needs an update with the storefront boarded up or something.

>>102587985
Seanig actually thinks this was some kind of war. Go on, your re-re-reheated pagpag is getting cold again.

>>102587985
>vshojo was the nazi germany of vtubing
that's quite literally phase connect, they have the same politics

>>102587971
yeah mouse is the true villain in all of this

>>102587904
>i have no problem with the members outside of petty reasons
In that case you're welcome here. Shitting on the org/management is completely justified.

>>102588019
Whomst?

>>102588019
and geega, and henya, and melody... the list goes on

https://x.com/ksononair/status/1947975730949668960

>>102587931
everything about vshojo "le talent freedom" when there wasn't any to begin with
manipulating vtubers in to joing ruining themselves in the process to fit /in/
gunrun worship
scamming
acting like the moral superiority when in fact you are morally inferior
ect.

>>102588019
Where is Geega or others
Why are you focusing on Silver and Vei you faggot

>>102588031
phase connect is fascist italy

>>102588079
so really you're upset a gunrun huh
welcome

>>102588115
same shit

This is not the English language learning thread.

>>102588031
Name 17 political practices that were popular in nazi Germany and adopted by phase connect

>>102588079
Vshojo proves why talent IP ownership is superior to the hololive model. Talent mass leaving a bad situation in solidarity is a beautiful thing to see.

European or SEA. It's always around this time.

>>102585226
Just woke up and saw thus Mel tweet. I know it's for the best, but I'm still disappointed we wont' be getting Mel streams for 2 weeks and I'm upset Mel is THAT devastated about all of this.

Slept 3 hours
Chest tingles
Nothing an espresso can't fix

>>102588019
Numi and camila, froggy and tob donated too

>>102588170
Also, all the Mel love. She'll pull through.

I have donated $10k anonymously

>>102586463
Nice is different than good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Egp-x-EVc&list=RD84Egp-x-EVc&start_radio=1

I started my day by humping my Froot bodypillow

>>102588019
takodachi love

>>102588132
They give women public awards and monetary compensation for having sex with their IRL husbands.

FEDERAL CRIMES

In a hypothetical scenario where Gunrun actually provided information of where the money went with 100% irrefutable evidence that it wasn't his fault, what would happen then?

>>102588279
keep dreaming gunrun

>>102586746
>>102588018
>>102588074
my flat wife peke

>>102588279
It is someone's fault, so finding that someone would become the focus.
And as the CEO Gunrun would still be at least parly responsible.

>>102588279
nothing?
the trust is broken
there have been way too many people being strung along on empty promises
too much emotional manipulation

>>102588279
Org with no talents is still a dead org

>>102588279
There is no good outcome for him or the company.

>>102588019
>you must heckin donate
Don't be cringe.

https://x.com/StoneforgedT/status/1947778686700167245
Buy cases so Michi can get more Indomie

>>102588279
>with 100% irrefutable evidence that it wasn't his fault
its still his fault

>>102588333
poorfag

>>102588279
He still needs to fucking pay. I don't care if he goes broke and homeless or sells his backpack company. just fucking pay the girls and IDF

>>102588347
... that's a dude with those silicone booba prosthetics isn't it.

pink bimbo

>>102588440
God I hope so

>>102588440
even better

>>102588279
>JP was in green before sending money to EN
>Zen Mouse Michi was slaving away in sponsorslop mines for half a year to keep EN afloat still
>Literally nothing else was happening with org itself on surface
even if money were not embezzled in practice, everything was mismanaged to a point it had no chance to recover even if they reached new debuts. Gunrun and CFO should be trialed, they murdered their actual business that was bringing in money while blowing it on what they thought could make them big returns

>>102588302
vsj+ has Peke for months and I've seen no porn of her itt. /lig/ has her for 1 day and already starts posting sloppa of her.

>>102588302
very cute

Can't believe Vshojo could have been paying me to anti Silver and Vei. I've just been doing it for the love of the game.

Gunrun owes me at least tree fiddy.

Nagi live

>>102588541

>>102588279
No idea since it's purely a fantasy, anything can happen.

Where the money went is simple, there isn't really even a mystery. They used it for ads, events and direct employee salaries (including the founders). One major place where the money is right now is in Mowtendoo's pocket since he as one of the highest level employees had to have been getting paid this whole time (and a lot of money) and would have gotten a huge severance for leaving when he did a couple months ago (or he would still own part of the company).

The problem in this whole thing is setting up a company with this kind of structure to begin with, and essentially taking advantage of Mouse's unique needs in having all her cash go through the company so that if the company is in money trouble she'll have to tank the losses even more than the other talent who only have part of their money coming from vshojo. If you want to look at it literally, the bag that is Mouse's and IDF's money is right now in Mowtendoo's pocket because he's the latest big expense they couldn't avoid paying.

>>102588079
>la talent freedom
yeah but the idea is good and allegedly it worked well as external propaganda and higher standard. They're also not sued out of their IP yet
>manipulating vtubers into joining in
if you can apply to company - is it a bad?
>gunrun worship
fair, cult is bad
>scamming
fair, corpos are bad but that's called business.
>moral superiority
it's in the contract which is under nda why they're afraid to leak it fully

>>102588579
I'm working and can't watch.
Someone please tell me she'll continue streaming as an indie and NOVA will support each other.

>>102588499
I randomly stumbled in vsj back in april and someone asked for pekes so I made some >>99267550

>>102588625
Hotaru already confirmed that and their current manager is still around helping.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2519681271?t=02h17m22s
>I made a note on my Iphone of the pros and cons of leaving
>cons: I'll make mouse sad
:(

>>102588625
everyone in nova is gonna continue streaming

>>102588279
The only way it could not be "his fault" is if he was so insanely lazy that he didn't look at his company's finances for a year while some other guy stole it all. And that's bad too.

Pink women with fat tits

>>102588611
>would have gotten a huge severance for leaving when he did a couple months ago
lol
>(or he would still own part of the company).
This. His shares were worthless though

>>102588541
I don't get it

>>102588611
Why are (You) so obsessed with blaming this on MTD? It's almost like you're trying to deflect from the people who actually controlled the company's finances and are therefore directly responsible.

It's funny throughout all of this Vei still comes off as an unlikable cunt

>>102584814
As a Saba fan I would genuinely not like it if she was in, dooby I might be fine with nimi would be on a thin line but she seems not to be connected, but Saba literally has only been gone for a little while if she was /in/ then she was 100% making plans to join whilst in hololive

>>102588654
Thanks for that.

>>102588783
Pepsi-man fucked his bitch

>>102588796
Because she is. God I hate when cunts are right.

gunrunwiththemoney haha

>That dono was actually from Nagi

>Nagi donated too
UUUUUUUUUUUU shes so sweet

>>102588810
npnp

They made Nagi cry.
There is no hell deep enough for whoever let this happen.

baby naggers so sweet

>>102588733
There is still some possibility it was kinda transparent and everybody were aware of sinkage and were planning it for a year or so but when middleman cuts become public it was the best time to pretend that 'bad company lied to us we didn't know' and 'die a hero' having this pr stunt instead of going one by one as traitors.
I'm not saying there weren't scams and manipulations but some things might have been exhagberated

>>102588796
>The only one who got paid
The Queen collects her debts.

Nagi said she loves me. Later, losers

>>102589018
damn she also said that she loves me

>has recognizable EN vtuber corpo with good rep
>blows it up
Ignacio you madlad, hope you rot in prison

>>102588499
did it take you this much time to realize that lig is where you discuss vtubers and vsj is where you entertain the schizos so they dont go to lig?

why did you guys scam ironmouse?

>>102589077
>lig
>for discussing vtubers
>no schizos
good one anon

so what nagi said..they only heard that vshojo was going bankrupt? that's new or did I miss this?

>>102588772
It's not blame. He's just the latest expense the company had to pay, it's literally where the currently missing money is given that they haven't seemingly been paying almost anyone and he's someone they would have had to. At the point he left, the company was not worth zero dollars like it is today. I highly doubt he would have happily accepted that his stake in the company is worth nothing so he's getting bought out at zero dollars.

He has no obligation to anyone and is not to blame, but he is the last one to get out before people were left holding the bag so that's where at least a chunk of the money has to be. I just think it's interesting especially with the conversation hovering around "where's the money?" when it's not actually a mystery. I did not mean to blame him.

>>102589131
that's why they didn't get paid for debut merch

>>102587083
How can she not believe in marriage when married people exist? That's like not believing in apples.

>>102589144
meant to reply to >>102588783

>>102588783
>*fills bathtub with champagne*
>Why are (You) so obsessed with blaming this on MTD?
>*flies in ice cubes into his penthouse with a helicopter*
>It's almost like you're trying
>*throws his cloned designer dog wagyu steak*
>deflect from the people who actually controlled the company's finances
>*wipes his penis on a benjamin*
>and are therefore directly responsible.
>*rents out a casino floor to lose money in peace*

>>102588499
Of course /lig/ actually likes AIslop. What a surprise.

you guys are scammers

>>102589075

>>102589205
and that's a good thing

>>102589219
we prefer 4skins thank you very much

>>102589237
I really hope those 4 make it through this and continue to grow their audience.

>>102589261
pay the money to ironmouse, scammer!

>>102589279
same, but when I goon to futa porn

>>102589279
she should start by not tweeting. that's the first thing she should do.

>>102589288
the IDF already got our money

>>102589279
We had one stream
Looks like she'll need some more time
Fucking damnit

>>102589279
Understandable
She kinda went off the grid just around much of the stuff happening, she got caught off guard

>see idf post about pi walk
>remember gun doing the pi walks for mouse
seriously wtf happened man

>>102589396
>>102589279
Yeah, plus she's gonna go over this with her own attorney as well, so she'll most likely find out debt and merch fuckery on her end as well

>>102589279
so basically this bitch was forced to comeback. she didn't plan to if things were like they used to.

>>102589426
>so basically this bitch was forced to comeback
no, she had no idea anything of this was happening and only learned of it in the last 2 days after she came back

>>102589466
there is no fucking way it's a coincidence that she came back just now come on

>>102589494
Yeah, the whole 'things woll be better' and 'I forgor everything that happened before' is just very cute rephrase

>>102589494
of course it is dumbass, not everything is a retarded conspiracy, catalogfag

That's it right?
No more bombs, no more nukes
We can start having some piece of mind now right?

>>102589555
pay debts scammer

>>102589494
dont listen to them. it IS a conspiracy, you are very close, keep doing research.

>>102584797
0. I have nothing to apologize for.

>>102589555
NDA still in place, there should be more heinous shit we don't know

>>102589425
her character was used to sell tea all while she was on her break. Tea was bestseller on store page for most of time

>>102584797
I have never stopped jacking off

One of the preshojos said that someone graduated to join, thats saba right?

>>102589555
Not until it sinks and the last janitor assistant gives his version how he was molested by massive Henya's cock

>>102589612
better if we never know

>>102589555
It hasn't even begun you fool

>>102589282
someone posted collage of twitchstats, and by japanese twitch rankings they are bigger than geega or mata in en

>>102589612
yep this nuke will destroy vtubing

mtd is a sexpest that sexually harassed Silver and when she rejected him he started spreading lies about her

>>102589237

>>102589612
Maeve from V&U

>>102589678
Oh right

>>102589658
my name is mtd, sexual harrasment is what i call running a 10 mile track and silvervale is a mountain road in montana

>>102589555
Next Saba stream will be interesting, for the off chance that her messages were related.
Then once the company is officially gone and the NDAs are worthless we'll probably get some new information.

>>102588051
vshojo owes them money

Please not Saba
Please

Nagi is kinda a giftsub monster considering her small channel

Nyan's father appearing in her dream and telling her not to sign with Vshojo was a legit premonition native American style

>>102589721
Nagi is a natural at this. She knows how to make her oilers pay.

>>102588796
just wait till she makes babies with soda

>>102589709
that's not a good comeback anon, i see a handful of people on that op donator list who are also owed a lot of money

>>102588537
VShojo owes this Anon a Significantly Large Amount of Money

Also, is it Veis turn to talk about it today? Personally I think the astroturfing 4chan allegation is really funny they should expand on posts that stood out. I know vei is a parasocial schizo andy and she probably posts here too while grinding in osrs .

>>102589715
please

>>102589545
>'things woll be better'
except she never said that

>>102589721
all xvsj girls and Kuro are. if you compare what they got in gift subs and bits to channels outside of org - it's night and day. Even Hesti

>>102589787
vei doesn't stream anymore

>>102589772
oh my bad i didn't mean it like in a bad way, they might be tight on money rightnow so they can't donate.

>>102589824
idc if they don't donate i was just replying to a faggot who coveniently cherrypicked vei and silver

How did Mikey take the news? Is he okay?

>vshojo conned dozens of people and talents and artists for many years
>no one said a thing ever
>not a single "hey where's my money, you haven't paid me in over half a year" whatsoever
>IM comes out with this
>sudden flood of everyone going "NOW THAT SHE SAID IT, ME TOO!"

How much longer were all these other women and artists going to go unpaid before saying something?

>>102589870
that's the most amazing fact, with how wide this scam operation was, it's a wonder it lasted this long

>>102589869
Our King stands with Melody

>>102589870
nobody was unpaid unless it was recent work. its just that vshojo would be very late on payments.

>>102589870
I mean most are nda bound so it not surprising that it took this long

>>102589870
I'm sure most of them said stuff to the higher ups, but they were emotionally manipulated and assured that they'd be paid soon.
They just didn't go public and didn't speak with each other about it because of NDA. Everyone probably assumed they were the only one with these problems. The manipulation from Vshojo was disgusting.

>>102589900
As expected of Mikey.

>>102589870
The unpaid ones were only this year and the ones who go unpaid received so much money from other ways that it didn't actually bother them on the spot. when Mint give 10k$ to charity and say vshojo didn't pay me yet ,it's not out of necessity.

>>102586721
oh god. do you think she was contracted and rug pulled like momo and mint do you?

Froot woke up, time for me to go back to the rape cave :(

>>102589870
Pillow RAPE while Olive watches

>>102589674

Kuro will be live in 5 minutes on YouTube talking about his experience and future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdrjgZJh5CM

>>102588691
>>102588730
>>102588767
>>102588800
>>102588834
>>102588887
>>102588925
>>102588951
Saved some time late anon

>>102589991
i think word got around the street at that time and she to unfollowed him directly

>>102589900
mel taking time off

>>102590120
>male
Who fucking cares?

>>102590157
you seem to be lost, /hgg/ is down the hall

>>102590157
michis cocksleeve

>>102590157
People cared what Zen had to say, would be hypocritical to not care about Kuro too

>>102590133
>>102588981
>>102589011
>>102589050

>>102590157
kys unicorn

>>102588677
and apparently the backpacks are shit and too complicated.

>>102590157
Tabs

Naggers forever

>>102590200
okay catalogfag

someone baking?

>>102590133
Damn impressive that her smol brain can go through all that

Chimken Nugger live on youtube

>>102590377
nah i think its time

Nagi stop acting cute. I'm broke I repeat I'm broke

>>102590377
It's time to let it go, anon. See you in /big/

>>102588677

>>102590200
Go back, Proctor's cocksleeve.

Kuro will probably switch back to youtube

Kuro live!

>>102589795
Not exact phrase but it was kinda implied, go rewatch it. (It might still be related to her personal life e.t.c. but so the all 'oofs' you've been speculating over)
>>102589899
>scam so long
probably by not being scam and being able to pay before shit hit the fan completely
>>102589917
NDAs are probably more manipulative than avg because nobody leaked their fully yet.
(Not in a legal manipulation way but probably guilttripping af and payibg extra for collective professional autism management bs)
>>102589870
>now that's she said
yep. When it started sinking as usual nobody was there to patch it up like previous houdred times. Maybe if Geega\Mata\Zen wouldn't leave screaming how superior is indie model they would have made it through
>>102590300
Probably opposite.

Gunrun fucked up
He tried to use money fo funnel projects and dreams for everyone
He didn't see the cost of that
He's dumb, but not a bad person
Yes I'm coping

Fucking Kuro man...

>>102589870
Not paying talents on time is one thing but stealing charity money is another thing entirely. Nobody was aware of that.

Lmao

Why is kuro like this

GOGOGOGO
>>102590479
>>102590479
>>102590479

KURO LMAOOOO

>>102589870
you guys are so green in terms of work experience

>>102586146
>>102586422
>>102588046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fFothdt_g
This is what I always hear when you're whining like a little bitch.