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Anonymous No.102590452 [Report] >>102590509 >>102590548 >>102590599 >>102590733 >>102590783 >>102590827 >>102590855 >>102590932 >>102591966 >>102593542 >>102593666 >>102594636 >>102594760 >>102596580 >>102598710 >>102599557
The more I read the shittier it gets. like they didn’t even ship Henya’s birthday merch and they made Silver’s mom sign an NDA too. that’s it? no one’s even thinking of suing them? wtf, that’s easy money with no consequences
Anonymous No.102590509 [Report] >>102590667
>>102590452 (OP)
>Lawsuit
>Easy
Also it's not even been a week. Chill.
Anonymous No.102590511 [Report]
>mfw this isn't over yet
Anonymous No.102590548 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
Everyone is clearly scared of the mouse mafia.
Anyway... someone’s knocking on my door, brb.
Anonymous No.102590599 [Report] >>102590641
>>102590452 (OP)
what money

it's pretty clear the money is gone since like september 2024

who are they suing, vshojo as company which probably has filled for bankrupcy the moment ironmouse published her video? gunrun who is probably in some remote island country since geega's graduation?
Anonymous No.102590641 [Report]
>>102590599
we will have our pound of flesh
Anonymous No.102590667 [Report]
>>102590509
no one’s gonna do anything, they’d rather just move on and go back to streaming
Anonymous No.102590733 [Report] >>102593542
>>102590452 (OP)
Dude, almost every "So I quit VShojo" video mentions "talked to my lawyer".

They are likely to go into receivership and then pay a few suppliers $0.01 per $1 owed.
Contractors (talents) will get paid last.. ie they wont.
Anonymous No.102590783 [Report] >>102590956 >>102591437 >>102594576
>>102590452 (OP)
I think Nyan and Vei's account of the situation is the most fucked up because they decided the NDA can't be enforced anymore and spilled everything:

1. VShojo put language into Vei's contract and NDA that basically didn't allow her to talk about anything business related with anyone, not even the other talents after she left. Nyanners had the same experience. Vei was the one who pulled Nyanners aside during contract renewal time and said "this is sketchy as fuck."
2. VShojo staff also had a bad habit of talking shit about the talents. Vei noted that multiple people (including con attendees) told her about overhearing VShojo staff talking behind her back at meet and greet events. Combined with the NDA, this also meant that Vei, Nyanners, and Silvervale were basically unable to defend themselves when VShojo staff portrayed them as being selfish to the remaining talents.
3. VShojo pulled a Nijisanji and tried to both space out and group up talent exits to shape the narrative. They asked Vei and Silvervale to exit together to make it not seem like a continuous exit, but then delayed Nyan's exit by months to make it seem like just a contract thing. At some point there definitely were rumors floating amongst the unicorns that Vei and Nyanners had left VShojo because of their significant others, rumors that couldn't be dispelled because of the giant NDAs they had to sign.
4. Vei got a lawyer to look over her contract, and VShojo basically tried to demonize her and make her look self-centered for doing so. When Nyanners got a lawyer to check her contract when renewal time came up, her lawyer basically took one look at it and said "WTF is this shit?!"
5. Speaking of lawyers - the legal help that VShojo had on-staff? Not legally able to practice law, because their bar license had expired.
6. Nyanners confirmed that she still hasn't been paid for sponsorships she did in 2021, corroborating what Vei and others have said. In fact, VShojo staff had told her that one missing payment was because "she hadn't entered her payment information," when another payment had literally just cleared days earlier. This is the corporate equivalent of a "dog ate my homework" excuse.
7. VShojo purposely timed their (expensive) ads in Japan to appear whenever Hololive was experiencing drama, including a $500k Shibuya ad. This isn't really a personal thing (it's just marketing tactics) but it definitely shows that there was a cold edge to the veneer of "you can collab with anyone."
8. VShojo portrayed themselves as being like a family to their talents, but tried to use legal pressure to prevent discussion of contracts, payments, etc. amongst themselves. It was basically a purposeful information silo strategy.
https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners/v/2519681271?sr=a&t=3436s
Anonymous No.102590827 [Report] >>102594739
>>102590452 (OP)
suing who? no one can even find gunrun at this point
Anonymous No.102590855 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
>No one's thinking of sueing
You do know court proceedings and filling takes time right? And it's been less than two days
Anonymous No.102590886 [Report]
Anonymous No.102590932 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
well all your employees are middle aged women with no skills and play video games all days, so...
Anonymous No.102590956 [Report]
>>102590783
their tits are distracting me
Anonymous No.102591437 [Report] >>102591924
>>102590783
talent freedom?
Anonymous No.102591924 [Report]
>>102591437
Freedom from wages
Anonymous No.102591966 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
I wonder if they started out OK and got rotten and greedy or they were bad all along but got people on with good contracts initially to sell the organisation?
Anonymous No.102592894 [Report] >>102593365
Anonymous No.102593365 [Report]
>>102592894
Do you think it went more blank than she had gone with the person she cucked her husband over?
Anonymous No.102593542 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
VShojo is (sadly and tragically) a master class in how to professionally gaslight, manipulate, and string women along for financial gain.

>>102590733
And this is why contracts where the "independent contractor" as a talent who is not allowed to work outside the agency are all a crock of shit and should be made illegal. If someone works for you and you don't allow them to work for the competition then they are no longer independent. They are an employee with the same rights as any other worker.
Anonymous No.102593666 [Report] >>102593703 >>102598522
>>102590452 (OP)
Ironmouse has already lawyered up, it's extremely likely that Zen and michi have as well, and most or all of the rest are probably currently in the process of hiring their own lawyers for this mess. It's gonna be a few months before the cases are finished, especially with plaintiffs living in at least four different countries.
Anonymous No.102593703 [Report]
>>102593666 (me)
FIVE countries, not four
Anonymous No.102593727 [Report] >>102594618
Nimi Marriage deflection thread
Anonymous No.102594576 [Report]
>>102590783
>5. Speaking of lawyers - the legal help that VShojo had on-staff? Not legally able to practice law, because their bar license had expired.
henya got scammed so hard lmao
Anonymous No.102594618 [Report]
>>102593727
>he doesn't know
Anonymous No.102594636 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
>sueing
>free money
Anonymous No.102594739 [Report]
>>102590827
Looks like Gunrun did a "run" with the money....
Anonymous No.102594760 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
They're going to file bankruptcy soon anyway. They're paying off their mortgages, loans, and employees first (their vtubers are considered "independent contractors"), and then they'll disappear.
Anonymous No.102596580 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
Lawsuits take a while, and the company is likely to file for bankruptcy sooner rather than later. Only time will tell if they can get anything from it.
Anonymous No.102598522 [Report]
>>102593666
Freedom of speech will be my defense. I can say what I want especially if they turned out to be true in the end.
Anonymous No.102598710 [Report] >>102599517
>>102590452 (OP)
that's why I dont believe most of this bullshit. there is NO world in which they get away with all this for so long, someone would have cashed in on an easy lawsuit by now. Just a bunch of dumb cunts piling on for xitter clout at this point
Anonymous No.102599517 [Report]
>>102598710
>"easy lawsuit"
I remember this same rhetoric being thrown around during Selen Shock. None of you faggots know what you're talking about,
Anonymous No.102599557 [Report]
>>102590452 (OP)
I wouldn't be surprised if Vshojo was the one behind Pikamee's harassment so Gunrun can step in and "help"