Zooner Edition
Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.
Keep things comfy, etc.
/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya
Related:
/999/ + /็ท้ท/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion
Previous thread:
>>102584635
Nyan said Gunrun's backpack is garbage
She hates it
Nah, Nazuna's issues are retarded.
>cum rap
Why is he like this
I need more black and white streams. Lets completely destroy backpack faggot
>>102590479 (OP)Still no Mint. What on earth are you doing?
>>102590513It's funny that it was backpack that made her crash out when she remembered how shit it was
>>102590550Mint fans are not coming here to discuss her, they have their own thread, so why bother?
Yes, she was signed, but she didn't officially debut yet. And by the same logic we'd need to include the aborted monster girl gen in the OP too.
I'm glad I don't have to worry about this anymore.
>>102590467https://x.com/Reaction__Vids/status/1667113567299022851
>>102590625Yes, which we should.
>>102590661ew, sports
get that shit outta here
Kuro is gonna use Uwumarket in the future
>>102590550I forgor. What's the current list of could've-beens?
I want to know why we only got hats when we partnered with that lewd merch store
why is kuro so fuckable now wtf
>>102590527Its bit petulant but she's not wrong, VShojo squeezed her for yet she could provide then tossed her aside more or less. What fanbase she still had was all she had and having your company purposefully trying to siphon off your fans to boost their own numbers with nothing in return is a shit deal through and through.
It's fair to say Nazuna wasn't a team player but the team wanted her to be a forgotten benchwarmer.
>>102590729>be the "whore org">don't even sell naked booba mousepads or naked dakis when you partner with a lewd merch store
Allegedly it was signed in 2 hours. Vshojo payed crowd of interns for that. Remember when dramafags were pretending how hard it is to manage it as indie during filian shareware drama?
I'm a wisp. Can I hang out here?
>>102590729Honestly if we start getting lewd merch now, burn the company to the ground and salt the land on which it resided.
>>102590803uwumarket isn't that much better than vsj. they have had a lot of merch issues.
>>102590729Gunrun laziness probably
>>102590803None of it's particularly difficult, the "difficulty" is having the knowledge of knowing you're getting screwed over, which is what is SUPPOSED to be the advantage of having an agency or representation doing your negotiating.
>>102590826You can, but considering the average iq of this thread, should you?
>>102590826why would you want to do that. you the kind of guy go tour hiroshima aren't you.
>>102590826Yes, post Mint butt
Froot just forced me to drink her pee :(
>>102590826Only if you post pictures of mint butt
>>102590826Of course, welcomed with open arms to /xvsj+/ - Vtubers that got fucked over by Vshojo
>>102590826if youโre not a unicorn
>>102590875>>102590876>>102590879Solidarity, I suppose. I am to upset to share her butt, please forgive me.
>>102590902I am not a unicorn.
>>102590826Minki was a Vshojo member, so yes, of course you can.
>>102590902uniGODs are welcome here, as per the 4skinz decree
Kuro actually telling new shit
kuro is calling (you) out
>>102590942Heโs the most upfront
>>102590826Is /mint/ getting shat up again?
>Lot of empty promises
>They didn't know how dire it was until very recently
Good morning
Doesn't feel right to call you vshojo bros.
But I hope you have a good day
I just woke up and while making breakfast I remembered how Mint was a secret member the whole time.
FUCK YOU GUNRUN, HOW COULD YOU FUCK THIS UP SO BADLY
>>102591003Pronouns: vshegro/vsjigga
>>102591003from now on, we are the eX-men
>>102590826Mint was technically a vshojo member. You have every right to be here if you want to.
>>102591022Mint crying hurts my soul.
Kuro covering all the details
>>102591003we are diamond dogs
>>102591030this is the new thread name
>>102590826We (as in the non-tourists) have never had any issues with anyone coming here to mingle. It was always fun when, for example, the deadbeats came around for stuff they obviously could not talk about in their general.
So feel free, but we'll have to see what the future looks like for this thread
>>102591050Although, everyone are /out/ties now. /in/nies not allowed.
Happy to hear that all the Nova girls will at least continue as indies
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Why did Kuro choose to stream this on YouTube and only announce it right at the last minute? Should have at least posted it yesterday so more people would know about it.
You bet your ass Gunrun has been kicking himself in the head for the past year: "WHY DID WE NEVER TAKE PART OF THE REVENUE"
>>102591074>Kuro covering all the detailsand just at a time i can't watch...
>we had meetings with gun and were told how things actually were before the charity partso it was transparent and they actually mismanaged the finances. Cool
>>102591130because there will be recorsing and you can rewatch it without paying corporate clippers e.t.c.
>>10259114910% cut from Mouse and Zen alone could've prevented this.
>Kuro got his debut merch payment LAST MONTH
>>102591130because fuck the dramafags, that's why
>>102591003I regret not watching more Mouse.
When kuro was speaking about sponsors it hit me why Henya and Mouse were honoring and doing a lot of sponsor streams back to back. It was probably to have a good legal case against vshojo
>>102591165Tl;dr before the charity situation the things were not that grim as they;re portrayed. Just another sinking company promising to find money to pay debts e.t.c.
I hope someone is recording this. There might be a chance he says something he isnโt supposed to and deletes the video.
I have shit to do, I trust a third plane will not have hit the smoldering remains of the tower by the time I return...
>>102591247lawyers aren't cheap, thank fuck they have uta
>>102591130>Why did Kuro choose to stream this on YouTubeMaybe it was a Mystake? Check the dates bro.
>>102591293Probably not, but just in case - when is Saba streaming? Does he have a schedule?
>>102591149you are ceo. company in the red. you start bringing /in/ more talent instead of fixing what you already have as revenue stream first.
I dunno man, you tell me why flip fatass is so retarded
>Contract was good but it doesn't matter if it doesn't get fullfilled
>>102591268that's pretty grim by itself
Kuro implying some contracts might have been broken by talents even before charity situation
I hope Kuro confirms the male gen thing from the supposed leaker
Voldemort rt'ed mint vshojo video..
>>102591364>dumb managers and poor financial decisionsIt's more realistic than
>they hired 3L psyop experts to manipulate us into hating eachother
>>102591383I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if VSJ management tried to convince her to graduate and join at this point.
>>102591381>male vtubers>ew
He really is covering everything. I wish he streamed this on Twitch where people expect him to show up.
>>102591381quinn said on his stream that vsj approached him during his final kyo days when they knew he was out the door but nothing came out of it
then shoto also posted about how he got scouted
It still didn't hit me that Vshohi was a black company
>>102591383the plot thickens
It's not over until the fat lady sings.
I donโt if i feel bad anymore when all the girls were bad stupid.
>>102591468everyone watches clips anyway
>>102591487I don't think Nyan is going to do karaoke ever again.
vshojo had so many ideas and plans... what went wrong.. is it just Gunrun being incredibly stupid ?
>>102591468Audience probably knows. Those who don't can watch full recording on official channel later.
>>102591540Iโm his fan and I would have missed it if I hadnโt checked his Twitter
>>102591539they had cofounder and CFO, considering how mismanaged funds are - they should accompany him
>Kuro has new merchandise people and has already gotten invited to a convention
>>102591383>big AX party they were at with Numi and other indies etc>Michi and Mouse and potentially other vshojos thereEverybody knows each other, everybody sees what vshojo did and feels for whoever got burnt
>>102591570It's called Milo you dummy.
this guy probably gave his asshole so vshojo could pay his debts, who in vshojo would have fucked kuro in the ass for this kind of favour?
Mata didn't say shit. They must have put her into 4th hokage NDA triple of what vei got lmaoo
>Maiko not staying, just helping them offload
Unfortunate but understandable...
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>>102591620>mouse>at ax partyuh, I don't think she can do that
Kuro Tl;dr 2
Maiko is loyal to talents but is getting replaced (overqualified / overpriced for Kuro), Until the most recent situation with charity Vshojo was pretty ok.
>>102591604Subscribe to youtube then i guess
>>102591633Henya
I feel really bad for Hesti. She's now forever stuck with a full-time job.
>>102591689With Kuro, but I have a feeling Michi ain't letting that boy go.
>>102591706Ipad. She's been to a lot of the parties on an ipad or as a robot.
>>102591642There is a person who you can't name but everyone knows who she is. Someone called her she who shall not be named and now her nickname is Voldemort.
>>102591716you dont fit in here
>>102591721>Until the most recent situation with charity Vshojo was pretty ok.it looked pretty ok to him, but behind the scenes was scamming everyone
>>102591760extremely ironic
>>102591642he's talking about mori
>>102591746She might be able to afford him, but we'll have to wait and see I guess.
>see a video that Mint made a video about "her experience with vshojo"
I really hate this trend of people who, once a company/person (not even vtuber related) gets exposed all these people come out the woodwork like termites to feast on the corpse and get money and clout. Why didn't any of these fags make a video about this earlier?
I don't give a fuck about Mint or shylily and her "experience" or anyone outside of vshojo you are irrelevant to the discussion
this kuro guy is suspicious, first because he was bailed out by vshojo which makes him biased, and second because he's trying to run away from actual audience who expects him to stream on twitch, why is he talking about this on youtube.
TL;DR kuro's opinion discarded
>>102591785>extremely ironicglad you're self-aware
>>102591801Mint was in Vshojo
>>102591801Easy clout, i feel ya but that's how this shit works.
>>102591801still many people get a fuck, watch drama and pay them money
>>102591801braindead retard, she was literally in the company
>>102591801mint was in vshojo you iliterate fuck
>>102591801Maybe you should have watched her video, because in it Mint explains that she WAS part of vshojo.
She signed a contract and was in the debut pipeline. Mint was a vshojo.
>>102591763He explained how it's ok at the industry standard of corpo scaming and way better than previous one. Like grow up suck it up your boss is not your mommy and that kind of shit.
>>102591801M/in/t was REAL
>>102591801both mint and shylily were offered a contract, your time will come, scammer.
>>102591801She was a contracted member of Vshojo, you should have watched the video
Kuro says he still wants to support and collab with the Nova girls.
>>102591852>Mint was a vshojo.Only in name
>>102591785ah, that one, I checked her main account and didnt check the other one. yeah, I see the retweet now
>Kuro will still be Novas strongest soldier
Hes so based for that
>>102591881Get this sexpest away from the girls
>>102591884did you even watch the video?
>>102591819fuck off intern
Looks like many /in/posters were actually completely right about many prospective hires. There was just a lot of missing information.
>>102591801okay tourist, here's your (you)
>>102591801Her video was legit though, I I get your point but her video was legit though unlike shylily Mint lit signed a contract with Vshojo. She is legally bound like the rest of the talent.
Kuro says he got paid for all his merch and sponsors.
>>102591884>signed the contract and was waiting for the debut>s-she was vshojo only in nameretard kun...
>>102591801Mint is fine she literally had a contract signed to debiut soon, rest though are drama farming and deserve stepping on the lego
In retrospect, it would've been amazing if Sinder joined Vshojo
>>102591922I would be actually very curious to know how many people they have approached that ended up refusing, like U-san or Shylily
>>102591611Gamersupps
Bricky
UwUmarket
Make your pick
>>102592011Probably every non-controversial 4view indie on twitch.
Chibidoki, Vedal, Limes, all of them.
anon, is it lazy tier bait shift time? can they at least be funny or post tits?
>>102591819>youtubeto not pay editors
>bailed outtherefore he explains this asian sweatshop mentality without magical thinking by being experienced in that and does not exaggerate it out of shock from being scammed first time
unless actual vshojo bigher echelone manager gives his version it's closest to earth we're gonna get
>>102592048seems like the person "vetoing" the hires were the hires themselves
>>102591801Mint like the PreShojos (Beri-Tori-Pia) are all deserving of making a talk about it. They were literally members who got screwed up before they could have even debuted, a stupid semantic that doesnโt matter but still deserve the support they have
>>102592011I want to know if Sinder got an offer and was it before or after Silver left
>>102592093All 4 should be mentioned in the OP desu.
>>102592011>>102592048All these names applied in 2022 and got rejected. ALL OF THEM.
>>102592119No debiut, no mention
>>102591922It seems like vshojo wanted everybody /in/ at some point. Nearly every ex-corpo got some offer, and even some corpos at this point. Although that last bit isn't exactly new sadly
Kuro stole corporate badge
>>102592116For the past 2 days I've slept for 4 hours each night due to drama happening late for me
>>102592116Yep, I knew vshojo was on it's last legs and waited, to say i wasn't surprised is an overstatement
>>102592119We have multiple poals about it and they were all in favor of it, we just need to remember to do it for the next bake (I forgor to do it)
lmao fucking gunrun trying to poach literally everyone from other EN corpos, shameless fuck
Hestia is so lovely, isn't she?
>>102592116like a baby on a half million dollar bed, how about you?
>>102592164Thst's unhealthy
You should reduce it to 3 or increase to 6
times 3 theory is pseodoscience but it does work.
>>102592180I hope he will face the worst consequences that a human will ever has
>>102592007absolutely not
>what the fuck is bluesky
lmao
I used to laugh at the concept of the "Niji retirement home" and now in the span of less than 24 h turns up that they in fact were in talks at various levels with every single graduate except for Doki, Kyrio, Mogu and Sunny (at least as far as we know at the moment)
>>102592212I cant
All the tea is keeping me awake
I will sleep longer tonight since things calmed down
>>102592140you don't decide that
>>102592116I woke up cold but feel better. Kuro being silly yet supportive raised my mood a bit and gave more insight on how bad things got.
Vcdonalds sure is a new one to add to the list
If i thought of joining vshojo, can i make a Twitter post that i dodged a bullet?
>>102592234the doki one was too early but idk about the other ones, Hex left niji not because of any drama, same with Vivi
>>102592234And just like a retirement home, the staff are all abusing the elderly residents and trying to get the dementia patients to sign their wills over.
>>102590911It's alright you don't have to post her butt
,but it has a calming effect on people so if you want we can post mint butt for you?!
One time I saw the devil sitting behind GunRun on a stream. Can I say I always had a bad feeling about VShojo on twitter?
>>102591801>>102591819Pay debts staff members
now we are ex vsj. The corpo doesn't exist so we can basically /in/ anyone now, the power is in our hands
>>102592340you're next mtd
>>102592297I accept this kind offer. Maybe it'll help me feel better.
>>102591060I kinda like it
Peke said she is joining OTK
>>102592358That's nice, gunrun
>>102592351But how can we /in/ post if there isn't a place to be /in/ now?
>>102592351/in/ is old and busted, /out/ is the hotness.
>>102592326Who is our Dr. Manhattan?
>>102592382I would be happy for her desu. I just want NOVA to succeed.
VShojo stole over half a million dollars from disabled people.
>>102592408The original indie gnome
>>102592243I mean, just sleep one hour less to feel well rested.
>>102592351Formally it still exists and everybody's waiting for it to be officially dismantled.
>>102590828I want some Mouse lewd merch again.
>>102590607no fuck that slag
>>102592412This, everyone else will be fine, NOVAS were robbed of everything that would help them grow.
>>102592429I feel like you already posted this
102592477
go back to the catalog
>>102592007In retrospect, it would have been hilarious if Bunny joined
>i let this company manage my finances and they fucked me over
>I worked with them for merch sales and they didn't pay me but I didn't say anything about it because... its fine
>I havent been paid in 10 months!
Why should I feel sorry for any of these fucking retarded holes
>>102592508and i will continue to do so until you cry
>>102592477Wtf this shit is actually cute
i'm sorry bwos this sucks, from a niji fan
atleast some of them will be happier as indie i think
>>102592520ah, ok, carry on.
>>102592508He's the catalog schizo. easily recognizable with his boomer gifs.
If Kuro needs a fun name for the parody album, he should go all in on the pirate them and name it "This Album is Booty"
>>102592514Gunrun's harsh whip would've redeemed the evil women
You know, I just don't get why Vshojo constantly failed to launch anyone they hired. Was it competence, resources, money or anything else?
They had people all ready to go but just.. ended up suddenly dropping or ghosting them out of nowhere.
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>>102592560Reminds me of this one
In other news. I'm really excited for new Froot music.
>>102592538What was the reaction to the poached talent stuff over there?
Oficial addressing of why on YT - twitch chat is unreadable shit and he wanted to interact with the audience
>>102592573I get the feeling they might have had some money troubles. Not sure why, just kinda get that vibe, you know?
>>102592604expected, and kind of relieved it was just that, i think the only thing i am angry the most is them literally being coerced into talking shit about niji because gunrun said so
>>102592234At this point I find it hard to believe they havenโt at least tried to slid some kind of proposal in Dokiโs DMs during 2024
>>102592560Should've shared this in his chat, he would probably get a laugh out of it
>>102592538>atleast some of them will be happier as indie i thinkNow that we know how dysfunctional everything was on the inside - I hope ALL of them will be happier as indies.
>>102592538shit happens, worst part of this will always be the annoying faggots on twitter
Pia donated $1500 from yesterday and an extra 500 from her
https://x.com/piapiufo/status/1948016742330241390
>>102592664>RimaKill yourself
I didn't really watch the JP girls other than the debuts but I will never forget Nagi shooting her screen. I hope the NOVA girls end up ok.
>>102592634But it sounded like the talents paid for all the assets out of their own pocket, all Vshojo had to do was coordinate things and get merch sorted out.
>>102592692yea that's the worst part and it's people who spread the most insane shit that way, i never hated mysta or nina for leaving but now atleast know a lot of shit they said about niji was also forced by the faggot gunrun
mika leaving is a different case because of the ID merge so it's good she's popular now
>>102592684yeah i hope nothing but the best for them
>>102592664Doing it in Japan was so retarded too, since nobody gave a shit about vshojo there.
Gunrun going AI bro letsgoooooo
>>102591112Add a shooped gunrun bag to be even funnier
>>102592695Watched her stream yesterday and she was super cute and seems like a good girl. Also green slime girls are the best color, she has supreme taste.
Which of the girls are posting here right now?
>>102592813mouse is always here because we're one tab away 24/7, the other one is probably geega. Oh.. and that fag Pendrive or whatever his name is.
>>102592813Vei is always lurking. Always.
https://x.com/starcattails/status/1947909566160867385
Kek
>>102592813vei is milking us for memes
>>102592813I don't come here
>>102592813None, but Gunrun or MTD might
>I just wanna survive and diebased
>>102592871But did he pay?
i want to see hestia's boobs
>>102592895Mouse is here but probably not posting.
>>102592906Kuro theorized how they still can legally sell their voice models e.t.c.
So figure Gunrun and his nepohire buddies paid themselves exorbitant salaries on top of everything
>>102592604They didn't poach anyone good except Mysta and everyone already knew about him. And Mint I guess but after she already left for unrelated reasons.
mmkay so, you are agency, you survive of chunk of money from merch, sponsors and con appearance you did for the talents under you, you pay staff horrendous amount of money while not paying the talents while penalizing them when they try make deals elsewhere. I am surprised vshojo lasted this long.
Gentlemen. I love Ironmouse.
>>102592966do you think mtd would brag about his cool lifestyle if he was only getting nice shabu shabu and cocktails on the weekend?
>>102592795>vshojo coming back with AI vtuberswatch out vedal
>>1025926641 pillar = 130ไธ
130ไธ = 130 x 10,000 = 1300000 yen
7 pillars = 9100000 yen = 62,118 USD$
still a lot but not over 1 mil
Did Mike/Nazuna say anything?
>>102592518This is what i dont get.
They knew things were bad for a long time. Why let people join and not warn them at least.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VShojo#Talents
Gotta laugh at this section of the wikipedia page.
Her silence is deafening though
>>102593022kek this one is good too
>>102593022next OP please
>>102593025I thought it was absurd that train station billboards would be so expensive.
>>102593070I thought froot said she had just (like, yesterday when she came back and saw everything implode) "filed" for leaving?
>>102593078this artist draws hardcore porn, I just know it
>>102591801>Mint or shylily and her "experience" or anyone outside of vshojoso you havent watched either one you tourist or your just being a dick.
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kurosisters can you tell kuro to avoid retweeting this faggot?
>>102593078except hololiveEN still exist.
>>102593144she's in the progress of leaving, she said yesterday she's gonna get a lawyer/attorney to look over it
>>102593167??? you know him? you tell him then, tell the sisters on twitter, they most likely don't know.
>>102593145Saba's facial expression is a clear tell
>>102593169The most important talents left so no one cares really.
>>102593053>know for long timebc grow up and understand that sometimes payment is not stable but if in a long run they do pay you just ignore it.
>not warn them1)unique contracts and nda + guilt trip over it
2)Modernity + not trying to manage other's financial planes needs e.t.c.
>>102593053Kuro said something about that. He said if you have a job you're not walking away at the first sign of trouble when everything else there is good and you're told that things will get better soon. Of course we know now that everyone at vshojo had these problems, but he also said they didn't talk much about finances with each other so he didn't know. Everyone handled their own business and they didn't really talk about finances with each other.
>>102593169Hololive is a better company than Vshojo was in all of 2025. At least they pay their talents.
>>102593205NTA but I think that's one of bvtm's lackeys or something
>>102593205Dude is a known phasefag, just check his post history
>>102593387I mean yeah? I don't think anyone's gonna seriously argue about that. At the end of the day simping for corpos is still retarded
>>102593070the real funny part is the awards section
>Shylily couldn't make Vshojo sign a noncompete
>"we operate on a trust basis"
lmao, imagine insisting to be allowed to compete with your own talents because "trust me bro"
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2519760383?t=0h14m59s
Since coward wigger Quinn nuked his video, I transcribed it
>>102593145Not hardcore, but definitely porn. Bongftah on twitter, Bongf on kemono
>>102591383And https://x.com/tiltify/status/1947748458841899200
>>102593468sasuga business orca
>>102593437He's a forum doxnigger. It's not that hard to understand.
>>102593488>um but>Um I saw>um um Um UM uMMiss me, don't ever @me again.
so what new facts and rrats have appeared overnight?
>>102593385Pretty easy to do with unliteral contract control
>>102593536yea, ok dude, I wasn't being sarcastic. i'm saying, if you know that guy's bad tell kuro or the sisters.
>>102593565Mori will get fucked so hard when she graduates. All her the rights for her songs will be stripped.
>>102593536I accidentally replied to myself lol, this post
>>102593437was meant for this post
>>102593385
>>102593385>better>actively deny their livelyhood if they dare to leave because "muh IP"Yeah no, fuck off.
>>102593078>indie avengers thinks this is how it is>meanwhile in reality everyone just moves one to do their own business I bet Kiara will be on the phone with Mint now though
>>102593488I see why he took it down, might have chanced action on other people instead of just him alone
Pirate Shitware trying to gain some support back by tweeting about the Tiltifyโฆ Donโt see a dono from him though.
>>102593655I do genuinely think Kiara is gonna coerce her into indie-dom
>>102593642But everyone that has left has had incredibly successful redebuts as indies with literally no interference. Oh no, she can't be Fauna/Gura/Ame now. Well, would you look at that, they still succeed.
>>102590479 (OP)shit op. Put respect on the gens that were lost
>>102593655>>102593678Mint* coerces Kiara ofc, I mistyped
>>102593626Your point also stands, but I was more refering to kson tweeting about those companies having unilateral power and simply changing the revenue sharing from 50/50 to 70/30 or however the fuck they want.
Of course they are still in line with the contract at that point.
Alright guys because tonight mouse is supposed to stream I think it's time to have our most important poal of the last few days!!
https://poal.me/g9bemh
https://poal.me/g9bemh
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>>102593696expect vshojo dick sucking to ramp up, in the next days, those scammers are all here and they're waiting for people to forget about it
>>102593677i really don't care i'm just happy it's getting more traction and money
>>102593696gomenne, I'll do it next time I bake
>>102593071What did she say?
I leave for 4 days...WTF HAPPENED....I cant draw all this...
>>102593761Put them under a heading below the others like "the lost generation" or something.
>>102593642Vshojo in 2025 denied their talents livelihood even while they were signed. It's not even a competition.
>>102593730Fuck the poll, reply your answer to this instead since a ton of posters are back recently:
have you done any of the polls? I have a suspicion that most lurkers and posters ignored them
>>102593793Vshojo stole charity money
Mint was actually /in/
Fuck corps! All my homies hate corps!
>>102593809>noooo I must defend the doritoShow hands.
>>102593786uh, it was kinda long. you might as well go to her twitter. basically just, "I got no support once en audience lost interest, maybe they were just lusting for my jp noombers"
So how many times are we going to retarded "i was only gone for x days, qrd" "I went on vacation, qrd?" "I just came out of a coma, qrd?" posts?
>>102593811This is my first pol and I get immediate hate, I did not see this coming:(
>>102593786She complained about getting raids from Vshojo members.
No, I'm serious
>>102593730It should be Decora and I hope Mouse doesnโt feel like she needs to use s3 to be โprofessionalโ
>>102593372>He said if you have a job you're not walking away at the first sign of trouble when everything else there is good Not sure if that's an exact quote, but withholding payments isn't just some small sign of trouble. Everyone who has the slightest bit of business sense knows that if payments are being delayed / withheld then things are really fucking bad and you need to lawyer up and protect yourself immediately.
Gunrun seems like an unironic sociopath who took advantage of the talent and will hopefully die in a grease fire, but I'm beginning to suspect that these anime streamers may not be pretending to be retarded kek
>>102593740they will be here until they realize they aint gonna be paid either.
>>102593729Kson was talking about talents keeping their models and IPs with a pro-rated revenue split alteration when you're still at the company (basically rent-to-own) on your IP. No companies actually do this but a few have tried to sue people on the way out the door for the model like V&U. No company can just unilaterally change your revenue split legally if it's set in the contract.
>>102593881Cotton comes back from her no internet camping trip in a week
>>102593887*kisses you*
*strokes your hair*
shhhshhh... baby, don't let that dweebs words get to you
>>102593881It's been less than 3 days, some vtubers took literal vacations or operations before all of this happened and will come back to a massacre. Give it a month
>>102593916it will be S3 or maybe a new model like the bloodborne one
>>102593905About getting them or not getting them?
>>102593786Whining about raids on twitch.
Yes, really.
>>102593862Being better than Vshojo at this point of time isn't really a high bar so don't think I'm defending the blue dorito just because I say that Holo is better than Vshojo in 2025.
>>102593786She had some unrelated "look what they did to me too" rant, but was unrelated to the current troubles, and she didn't claim they owed her any money. TL;DR she hated Twitch's raid culture, and took offense that VShojo members would raid her without her permission. So that's hilarious. I get it, her "I'm your wife" schtick bonding time getting interrupted by a raid is annoying, but it feels like she's just passing blame.
She did have a second, more valid complaint: she was asking for support in gathering more JP audience, and VShojo was incapable of delivering.
Itโs funny, Iโve got the live donations on a side monitor and every now and again I see a bunch come in at once and just think to myself, oh some streamer or YouTuber has just talked about it.
>>102593881QRD not sure what you're talking about I JWU
>>102593866The whole thing felt kinda unnecessary.
>I debuted at 50k alright? then you barely streamed. but I feel her grievances are about JP being tiny were somewhat legitimate.
>>102593956its going to be funny to see Cottontails reaction when she comes back from the camping or whatever she is one
So Vshojo really did force Mouse to unlewd herself.
>>102593845I heard about the 400k. Also i knew it was weird Mint was 'affiliated' with vshojo but fully.
Heart goes out to those girls.
Did the fuckhead ceo ran with the money?
>>102593977getting them lmao
>>102593962It doesnโt need to be s3 I think Mouer might think she needs an official looking model because of everything but sheโs indie she should use which one makes her the most comfortable, and I think that is Decora.
>>102593523>these things you're promising me, put them in the contract>if that's not possible, I am also fine with an exit clausehow would you respond?
>>102594028I wonder if we were gonna get Cotton. Hell, maybe we had cotton. 4 known talents signed and prepped, possibly more since Mint had a unit.
>>102594040Wait, Mouse is lewd? Sorry for not knowing much about her.
>>102594040what if that staff member who was offering to dox members where trying to whore her out and she just stopped because of that oh go what if they did that too Melody
>>102594044>Did the fuckhead ceo ran with the money?Unclear, most likely the company was just not profitable without taking a split from stream income and the money got eaten by operating costs, but it's not out of the question that someone ran with a bag of money.
>>102593881Its the middle of Summer. A lot of people might have legitimately been on vacation.
>>102594075forgot picture
yea ok I'll say it. I miss jacking off to sinder
>>102594006I'd like to know how much of that $11M went to signing and promoting Nazuna and Kson. They could have run their operational expenses for a *long* time with that instead of taking some weird half-ass stab at an oversaturated Japanese market.
>>102594006She wanted more JP talents and then ghosted the first one that joined after her.
>>102594075id say "Yes, your highness, and ruler of the depths, it shall be granted with the utmost urgency"
>>102594044Fuckhead CEO has some fucking crazy fanbases pissed at him. I wouldn't want to visit Japan as a well-known, recognizable figure if I was wanted by Kson's JP fan base.
>>102594028What if you were out in the woods and just saw this pornstar looking woman wandering around in the bushes looking for firewood
Hey guys I got got a rrat so I thought I'd share it,I just remembered that mousey opened the video submissions rather spontaneously last week and I think she did it so that if she had to open it after the announcement a lot of mean videos would be send,not anything negative if true but she would be a very shrewd person if true
>>102594040Expect Mouse Chaturbate streams now that she's free.
>>102594087No Moused used to be very degenerate and did have a nsfw daki, she dropped it all suddenly and it took a year for her to start even making lewd jokes again.
So some anons rrat that vshojo asked her to cut it out so they could make more money from her as a brand save vtuber.
>>102594075I'd be too busy staring at orca tits to respond.
my rrat is that timmy is a vshojo staff member that was trying to isolate mouse
Who is talking about the Tiltify? It sped up a lot now.
>>102593793go watch False, he at least has his facts straight about how JP got fucked over
>>102593862Being paid is a lot better than not being paid. No amount of coping will change this
>>102594202It's not really that unreasonable. Part of the trouble they had was having a founding member that was a literal sex worker that never stopped. Some companies were always gonna draw a hard line at that, but if they could overlook it having your flagship talent be relatively safe was a decent idea. For many people Ironmouse was the only member they even knew.
>>102594192I want the r18 daki back and the one we never got and maybe more sexy merch in the future.
>>102594282Itโs unreasonable emotionally manipulate her to change when the company motto is talent freedom
We are so back to retarded loops
>>102594263I'm watching.
Vshojo imploded in less than a day. I'm just impressed. that happened SO FAST.
>>102594202>me remembering how Heavenly on Zen's VC joked about saying "nigga" now that she is /out/
>>102594364we always thought it was connor's fault but turns out it was gunrun all along
>>102594397speaking of heavenly, im yet to see his crashout about all this. especially with henya
>>102594453he is pulling up to gunruns house
>>102594397To be fair, she would still need a few shades darker of a tan to get away with that from the standpoint of the general public.
Lol Kson.
also exodam the goat
To the anon that was wondering who the mystery member that said they'd vote for Sayu was, it was Silver. Sayu retardedly uploaded an uncensored image of the chat to Gyazo and then censored the Discord screenshot but didn't censor the link
>>102594364Nuclear war could break out and some anons here would still only be worried about how it affects their ability to goon to Mouse
>>102594514There's different kinds?
>>102594522Sayu is a retard nothing new
>>102594554Is she even goonable?
>>102594554Hey if the world is ending there is nothing I would want to do more than just goon to Mouse.
Unfortunately thereโs likely gonna be fines for all of them behind the scenes. Actively recruiting people into a scam, even if you didnโt know, is still illegal.
The law is unfortunately blind. It doesnโt matter if youโre a good person.
>>102594614You never went looking for bitches in the ICU?
>>102594514draw KSON playing with a toy car ferrari
>>102594717you're retarded, stop posting
>>102594717stop trying to shift blame vshojo manager
Best they can hope for is reduced fines in court.
>>102594453He knows enough about all the talents and what has happened that the best approach to have is to let them say what needs to be said themselves. Heavenly can always share his opinion later
>>102594522Has anyone pointed this out to her yet?
>>102592042Bricky is the most likely choice considering Mata's connections, also I know he's friends with Laimu who also goes through there.
>uwumarketI'd trust Vshojo more for merch
>>102594522I always wondered why they were friends but this explains it. I guess they bonded over trauma.
When will Zen publicly apologize to mouse and henya?
>>102594778He already said uwumarket on stream
>>102594717That would require one vtuber suing another, given they all live in different states (and countries) and it would be a huge social faux pas it's simply not going to happen. At most people try to recover some funds from Vshojo itself if that's even possible, which it probably isn't. And also yes it does matter if you know, that would be the entire crux of such a case.
>>102594522>Silver wanted Sayu /in/I take a little bit of solace in the fact that Vshojo dodged FeFe, Quinn and Sayu.
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>>102594851When do we get Sinder, Bunny, and Elira talking about being recruited?
Someone claimed Vshojo was poaching 3 Nijimales? This is Hex Haywire.
>>102594837From one scam to another. Hope his fans enjoy their merch in 6-8 months time and that it lasts more than a few days.
Nijisanji will sue VShojo now
>>102594896Thank fuck the org went under before we got males!!!11
>>102594717where is money, Ignacio?
>>102594833if she didn't publicly shit on them, or even publicly announce that they aren't friends anymore, then she has no reason top publicly apologize
>>102594890Bunny might legitimately have a story considering her relationship with the girls back in the day.
>>102594936There is nothing left to sue for.
>>102594896Dodged bullet. And not for him
>>102594936Machine translated Legal Zoom document asking for One Billion Dollars being faxed by an intern as we speak.
so who else are we going to find out was secretly /IN/ before a rug pull like momo or mint.
>>102594980oh god you might be right. fat tits might have been /IN/ as well.
>>102594890they are in google dockey queue right now, we'll get to them once first and second priority are done
Snuffy every fully talk about why she got rejected other than "my application was late"?
I hope Mouse does find the strength to stream tonight.
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>>102594890I still to this day don't get why are they saying Elira is evil lol
and no I don't care about nijis
>>102595208https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gcs5k8n-FY
>>102595189well aren't you special
>>102594554Fuck, good one anon
+2
>>102594778Uwumarket upped their game
>>102595189She's evil for seducing me with her giant breasts
>>102594896You know what Iโm happy this didnโt happened lol
How long do you think it will be before VShojo the company officially dissolves?
>>102594936So is Hololive. Vshoujo groomed Gura, maybe some JP Hololive girls and like six Nijis into quitting
>>102591721>Until the most recent situation with charity Vshojo was pretty ok.Bro I was watching his stream and thatโs not at all what he said. Things were pretty bad, but they only became abandon ship bad when he found out about the charity matter and how other people were also facing payment issues.
>>102595346Groomed by.....giving them better opportunities?
there was actually another group planned.
anon would join with anon and anon for a stripper generation. was already approved by gunrun
>>102595390>better opportunities
every corpo vtuber that quit in the last 3 years was groomed by vshojo
the google dockeys will be dropping soon
>>102595128>didn't use the New California Republic flag
How the hell were they planning to debut all these new members when they were already in financial trouble? Were they just hoping the next vtuber would be big enough to get them back to green?
Mint and her idol gen, 3 in monster gen, and a boys gen on the backburner?
>>102595390hard af NDA and not payment is better opportunity yeah
>>102595318Truly an evil queen mastermind.
>>102595189She is defacto manager of the EN branch and even runs the official discord server. She reserves all the opportunities for herself and her friends. She's gotten like 8 different friends hired and they form a little club that atands superior to everone else, who are excluded and treated like dirt.
Notice how Zaion and Selen are fired for practically no reason, while Luca can get away with murder. The way you're treated by the corpo completely depends on how well the friend group likes you
>>102595416Thank you for updating the OP
>>102594896Vshojo, why are you wanting Niji this much? Niji is too special that you must go after every single one of them? To become niji-lite?
>>102595503The Hololive NDA is even more strict.
>>102595538They were probably targeting holo too at least. I wonder if they went after any small corpos. Plenty exploded in 2024 and they didn't save any of them.
>>102595538good PR
>hey look, we saved them from "jail" and they said they are happy
>>102594896>Vshojo was the one who killed NijiENholy fuck
>>102595536No problem, though I'm not sure if that's even all of them
>>102595703Can't escape him anywhere
>>102595519sex with evil women
>>102595703Lol, fatty really shows up in every place on this board. The reason why the main thread has not been shitted up yet today is because he is here right now
>>102595519If only I was a shota
>>102595531Even the first sentence is wrong. She created the discord server, but Finana was in charge of actually running it. That's always been well known.
>>102595296I guess I should be used to Bao having abysmal luck with merch but I bought a shirt from them and it arrived with the print peeling off already, also I'm still waiting on her album that was supposed to be released in May. I have a couple of other items I bought from them back in 2023 which are better quality so if anything they've gone downhill.