Thread 102594551

Would you have preferred she kept it hidden and then have schizos uncover the marriage themselves? That would've been infinitely worse

>>102594551 (OP)
No? That's literally the culture, not breaking the immersion would've been infinitely better option.

>>102594551 (OP)
Mr. Nimi has logged on

>>102594551 (OP)
They act like not bringing up would be better but everyone knows that would open the gate to the "she is selling the GFE and is taking advantage of lonely boys" bit.

>>102594551 (OP)
Most people who like a vtuber do not pay attention to what schizos uncover, otherwise the entire industry would have collapsed by now. Most people who like a vtuber do pay attention to what they themselves tweet. These are not the same things.

>>102594551 (OP)
she could have just streamed less and makes videos here and there, then sell merch again and go to events and make some money all the while keeping her private life well funded behind a thick wall of gfe lie. but no, she spilled the beans and let the cats out of the bag, now her source of income gets into jeopardy and even worse, might incite absolute schizo behavior from her saplings to god knows what they will do.

>>102594551 (OP)
She should have revealed it sooner if she wanted to get ahead of it like she claims. Waiting until after the honeymoon debut period and merch sales were over comes off as extremely disingenuous and like she was just trying to cash in one more time. Her trying to frame it like she's doing her fans a favor lost me as one and this is coming from someone that watches married content creators(female).

>>102594738
>Breaking the immersion
This is baffling to me. Like I thought most people fully understood it's just an avatar and it's like an actor assuming a role for the purpose of entertainment. Do people really loose themselves in some kind of fantasy about vtubers???

>>102594551 (OP)
>I don't get the outrage
there isn't any. it's vshojo shills on damage control prove me wrong

>>102595356
Your mother is just an avatar, peel back the skin to meet the real her

>>102594551 (OP)
I'm utterly indifferent but the sheer fact that it's triggered this much seethe is hilarious. It beggars belief that someone can simultaneously care enough about a virtual entertainer to seriously fall in love with them, but not enough to do some digging and check their relationship status before catching the feefees. This has to be autistic behavior

>>102594551 (OP)
Her only skill is attracting incel gachikois. After the drama buff ends her numbers will be abysmal.
I don't know how she isn't aware she has one of the worst fanbases imagineble. Saba was sensible enough to ignore all the people asking her about nimi's wedding. If she had congratulated her onstream it would have been the end of her carreer because her fanbase is even worse in the regard.

>>102594551 (OP)
She's going to have children. A woman trying to hide having a baby is a ridiculous notion unless she's willing to disappear for long periods with no justification, and not everyone is Gura. All she did was warn people earlier than she would've inevitably had to.

>>102594551 (OP)
one of these days someone is going to draw/animate nimi getting railed while the we as fauna and saplings we cannot be friends clip is just playing in the back

>>102595356
'm gonna bring up a fleshtuber as an analogy, everyone who watches Dr. Disrespect knows he's playing the caricature of this FPS gamer in a silly mullet wearing a red bulletproof vest on stream. When he suddenly opened up the stream looking like picrel crying about how he cheated on his wife IRL, that's not enjoyable content. Did the viewers get lost in some kind of fantasy about the glasses-wearing bulletproof vest streamer? No, it's just really strange behavior to do that using your "streamer persona" channel. Like, I personally wouldn't give a shit about Nimi if she announced it on her roommate account because as far as I'm concerned that shit has nothing to do with the Nimi Nightmare channel.

>>102595356
>it's just an avatar and it's like an actor assuming a role
You say that, and you can't see that the culture is dead?

>>102595398
>vshojo shills
all the talents and staff left
there is literally nobody on this planet who supports that company unless gunrun himself is posting on here

>>102595356
>an actor assuming a role for the purpose of entertainment
>Do people really loose themselves in some kind of fantasy
How can you even reconcile these two statements? The whole point of the actor performing the role is so the audience can lose themselves in the fantasy of the situation. When you are watching a movie Brad Pitt does not break character. When you are watching wrestling the Undertaker doesn't call a time-out so he and Kane can have a beer and joke around together. The very act of performance is fantasy. That's the very fucking point.

>>102595356
Everyone who isn't retarded understands what every vtuber is a person with their own life. The social contract that everyone agrees to to make things work is "you give me escapism for a few hours a bunch of times a week and I don't need to stick my nose in your personal life." The people who break that social contract don't like vtubers. The vtubers who break that contract don't like money. Some day people will understand the free market, today isn't that day.

>>102595356
>Do people really loose themselves in some kind of fantasy about vtubers???
>Like I thought most people fully understood it's just an avatar and it's like an actor assuming a role for the purpose of entertainment.
So, which part of the question you didn't answer yourself?

>>102595621
>unless gunrun himself is posting on here
would that surprise you?

>>102595356
You genuinely sound like one of those retards who comes to wrestling events and yells ITS FAKE GUYS
We fucking know bitch, it's pretend and suspension of disbelief, why do you think we can fix and rm talk on here???
It's an illusion and they keep up the illusion and we don't look behind the curtain

>>102594551 (OP)
the fault/onus of it being revealed would fall on the doxfag being a faggot stalker then at least.

also this exact fucking situation OP describes has happened before with holoJPs and guess what, it's actually generally blown over. because the girl never breathes a word of it or talks about it on main, so some people just decide on if they will tolerate it or not instead of being forced in their faces like "if you're gonna be my fan, literally you have to directly answer how you feel about this question whenever asked for the rest of time because I made it official" which is apparently doing quite a bit to make people say "ok that's it, it's been fun but I can't do that."

>>102595723
>The people who break that social contract don't like vtubers
I'm sure you'll re-evaluate your opinion when Nimi conspicuously fails to become a 1view as a result of this

>>102595523
There are a lot of vtubers, big and small, who does just that because they understand the assignment. She fucked up. Reality will hit sooner or later in terms of revenue. There is no coming back from this.

>>102594551 (OP)
yes, just don't be a retard and post shit online

>>102594551 (OP)
It just has a sour taste when she sells merch saying "I love Fauna"

>>102594551 (OP)
Opposite it would be miles better.
At least she would try to keep immersion instead of ruining it all together.

>>102595356
>Actor plays a character
>Actors breaks the character
>"I don't get it guys, what's wrong with breaking a character"

>>102595356
>This is baffling to me
That's normal since you are a tourist on borrowed time.

>>102596017
>1 view
No one is claiming that but her hardcore fanbase is not happy and both veibae and nyanners went from 10k to 2k average off announcing their bf
Most of the people who are making a stink about "unicorns btfo" now won't stick around more than 4 months and she will take a hit in her viewers and members.
Even irl female streamers views tank the minute they have their bf on stream

>>102594738
You twitter tourists need to go back.

>>102596017
You either quoted the wrong part of my post or you're retarded. By the people who break that social contract I mean those retards who insist kayfabe is dead and try to force that on other people against their will. Does that sound familiar? Is it what you do?

>>102596113
Fauna wasn't married

>>102596372
You're right, she was engaged and living with her fiance
Thanks for correcting the record

>>102596287
Pretty much this. We have years of data proving that boyfriends is a death sentence for vtubers carreers.
Even fucking veibae who is as unicorn unfriendly as you can get lost a shitload of viewers.
Those dramafags won't stick around.

>>102596422
her previous character didn't mention that so it doesn't count

>>102595356
Of course people don't understand it, at least not on an emotional level - these women (and sometimes men) with their bouncy tit anime avatars pray on lonely young men, and maintaining at least some sort of facade means these lonely men can more easily suspend their disbelief while the predatory streamer siphons in their money while acting all cute and quirky.

Why do you think Ironmouse is hell-bent on scrubbing the internet from any mention of her being in her late 30s and having a teenage/adult daughter? To not "ruin" her carefully crafter image of a sickly little doe eyed girl who can never meet other people let alone have physical relations with the opposite sex, naturally.

>>102594551 (OP)
I'd prefer it if she stayed single

>>102594551 (OP)
I think people would've preferred either:
Her being open about it before re-debuting and selling a shit ton of merch.
Or
Keeping it a secret as to not ruin kayfabe.

It's no secret that "single" Vtubers sell more merch/get more money, so announcing this after the initial re-debut money rush feels kind of scummy.

>>102596495
Or maybe she doesn't want weirdos online using her children as a weapon to anti her? Oh wait, that's happening anyway.

wait, so she left to go have kids and get married? didn't she start the whole disagreement with management meme? and she didn't ever clear that up?

>>102595356
Breaking the immersion of not having to listen to more personal life bullshit as if I don't hear that enough already while working 60 hours a week

>>102596611
The disagreement was about her staying in America to raise a family. Notice how all the EN talents are in JP now full time

>>102596495
I'm pretty sure her story is that she was relatively healthy, and then the disorder really started kicking in. Thirties or not, kid or not, that's fairly consistent.

>>102594551 (OP)
>Would you have preferred she kept it hidden and then have schizos uncover the marriage themselves?
Yes, because with the former I could separate Nimi from the person behind the avatar. Now I can't even do that; she made her fanbase being cucks canon.

>>102594551 (OP)
She really only revealed it because of the concerns of gunrun doxxing everyone, and she rather come out on her own terms than have it come out as some big sekrit dox that makes it seem like she was hiding it

Which she was, don't get anyone wrong, she absolutely was hiding it because you don't go from relationship -> marriage in the span of a few months since the Valentines show. It just looks way better from a PR standpoint and is absolutely the smart thing to do if it looks like kayfabe was about to be broken.

>>102596665
i guess that lines up. she should've said it after redebuting instead of waiting so long i think

I think the idea is for her to not be a whore who swindles emotional investment from men while engaged/dating
If you want to date/marry fine, just graduate/retire and pick another line of work
Don't be a nun if you won't stop fucking

She was dating him for years wasn't she

>>102594551 (OP)
You are a redditor incel who's so used to being cucked that you don't even know what's wrong with being cucked

>>102594551 (OP)
Men can't be genuine fans of female vtubers.
Their fandom and enjoyment of the content is inherently predicated on sexual underlying intentions and therefore neither genuine nor real.
They are unable to separate the individual for who they are and their content from who they want them to be in their delusional daydreams.
Some men are more honest about this while others are in various stages of denial, sometimes even to themselves. You can see it anytime something happens that ruins their delusions and reminds them that their favorite content creator has a life outside of their parasocial relationship, for they will not only be angry at this fact, but rather turn around completely and retroactively rationalize it as that talent being bad anyways.
This alone shows that their enjoyment of the talent in the first place wasn't pure or genuine, it required the sexual component to manifest to begin with.
Therefore only women can enjoy female vtubers authentically for what they are, and a (straight) woman enjoying a female vtuber is the most pure fan there is.
It follows that men should watch male Vtubers because at least there they can enjoy them for their merits, authentically and honestly.
But upon hearing that, most male "Vtuber fans" will recoil at this suggestion, launching into a barrage of attacks to distract from the truth they ultimately know to be true and are afraid you manage to verbalize:

Not only are they not authentic fans of the specific vtuber who reminded them of the truth, but without the sexual component they aren't really fans of vtubing as a medium in the first place, because they are essentially the same as the guys donating on webcam porn sites.

>>102596665
>Notice how all the EN talents are in JP now full time
Ceci, Gigi and Liz are going back home after the concert

>>102596792
Hard disagree. Let's say that happened, she could have easily released a statement saying that Nimi Nightmare is a character and the personal life of the person portraying that character is not tied to her at all. Separation of artist and art and all that. She would have still taken a hit, but it wouldn't have been career-ending and she could have bounced back from it with time. We've seen this happen in the JP sphere already, for example the Towa yab. Openly owning that "I am Nimi Nightmare and I am getting married" and personally removing that separation is suicide.

>>102596992
I think all streamers lose at least some of their appeal if they start off single and get into a relationship later on. I remember Asmongold started bleeding viewers once he said he was in a relationship because he stopped being relatable.

>>102597122
yeah for few months until fes

>>102594551 (OP)
She lied and drug hololive through the dirt with claiming management was the reason she left. Only it turns out it was because she wanted to stay where she was and get married and have kids.
Makes you question just how many of the graduations was actually Covers fault. And how many was girls doing shit like this then blaiming them.

>>102597122
Those are the only ones. They're not forced to be there but the talents have to be in JP so much most of them move there permanently. Nimi didn't want to go to JP on business all the time leaving her bf and she didn't want to live apart from him
It's pretty clear that's the reason

>>102597203
Asmon is a bad example because his content was "le based gamer goblin in his cave" and then the partner was a botoxed up twitch bathtub whore

Most of the old streamers, the ones that started in or shortly after the machinima days are married now and that didn't seem to affect any of them.
Do note that they are men though, so the interest in them was genuine to begin with and not predicated on their sexual availability.

>>102596992
>This alone shows that their enjoyment of the talent in the first place wasn't pure or genuine, it required the sexual component to manifest to begin with
You're conflating different things. All people find attractive people more likeable than unattractive people. Purity is a key component of male attraction. What you're saying is like saying no true fan of Britney Spears could exist because she was hot, even straight women enjoyed her being sexy even if they weren't daydreaming about fucking her, and therefore only Lizzo and similar hambeasts can have true fans. You're circling the truth without being able to actually comprehend it.

>>102595570
that anon is a retard, but if I had a fanbase of seanigger unicorns, I wouldn't make my personal life public for my own safety

people watch Nimi because she's a good entertaining streamer so this will have no effect anyway

>>102596586
Why would her having kids be a "weapon" against her, if not for the fact that her viewers knowing it would destroy a carefully crafted image designed to lure in lonely men?

Having kids is a great and a positive thing, you know, not something to be ashamed of.

>>102597354
>What you're saying is like saying no true fan of Britney Spears could exist because she was hot
If you get mad at her having a husband and then proceed to rationalize that she never was good at singing to begin with, then you're not a true fan. If you don't then it's not relevant to what I said.
>even straight women enjoyed her being sexy even if they weren't daydreaming about fucking her, and therefore only Lizzo and similar hambeasts can have true fans
See above. It's about the sexual component being a foundation that is both necessary and when taken away can retroactively bring everything to fall together. If you have that mindset then your "fandom" isn't genuine, it's just a way to crank your hog or supplement your failing social life. You're not a real fan at that point, as the subject matter doesn't matter to you, what matters is the sexual part.
>You're circling the truth without being able to actually comprehend it
You're just missing the point.

>>102596992
Why are sexual underlying feelings (not intentions but that's okay) neither genuine nor real?

>>102595356
How is it so hard to understand the basic concept of selling a fantasy?
I wouldn't watch a movie if the actress suddenly looked at the camera and said she's getting married IRL.
Like I don't give a fuck what you do on your own private time, but don't broadcast it publicly on while you're in character

>>102597536
The feelings are the real part.
The being a fan is the fake part.
I don't mind you being a gooner, but I do mind if you're in denial about it. If you accept that you're basically a camsite visitor who just chose a slightly different type of camsite, then go ahead king, that's fine by me.

I would have preferred to just never know

>>102594551 (OP)
immediately unsubscribed, also never ever donated to a vtuber in my life and i'm super happy about it, i fucking won't finance the happiness of another person

>>102597523
>proceed to rationalize that she never was good at singing to begin with
No-one's doing this to Nimi. Again you are conflating.
>If you have that mindset then your "fandom" isn't genuine
Why? When Michael Jordan quite basketball to play baseball he lost a lot of fans who liked him playing basketball but did not care for him playing baseball. Were those people never true fans of Michael Jordan the basketballer? Is a true fan only someone who accepts what a celebrity does regardless of if the celebrity themselves changes their role or dynamic?

>>102597635
you've already invested in being a disgrace to your parents, don't spread yourself thin now

It's called kayfabe.
You are outing yourself as a newfag if you don't understand this. It's like telling people pro wrestling is not real. The draw of vtubing was always the draw of an anime girl character. Character. At least until tourists joined and stopped caring and we have bangers like "isn't it just an egirl with an anime avatar without any character or soul".

>>102594551 (OP)
I'm not interested in someone's marriage. Keep it to yourself, I'm not here for this.

>>102597592
>The being a fan is the fake part.
Again, why? You keep saying this as if it is some self-evident truth like fire is hot. Fans are people who like and support a person for the content they make or the things that they do. If the content they make involves satisfying an underlying feeling that involves a sexual context why does that suddenly nullify the entire relationship and transaction? You have provided zero reasoning for this, only stated that it *is*.

>>102597691
>When Michael Jordan quite basketball to play baseball he lost a lot of fans who liked him playing basketball but did not care for him playing baseball
Not analogous as nimi isn't quitting streaming. She simply put the end to a delusion that you projected onto her against her will (see the "we can't be friends" stream).
>Were those people never true fans of Michael Jordan the basketballer?
No they were fans of michale Jordan because he played basketball, which is why they stopped being fans once he stopped playing basketball.
Here they pretend to be fans of vtubing and their oshi, but despite the oshi still streaming and still being a vtuber they stop being fans. That should give you to think no? They weren't there for the vtubing to begin with, they were there for their sexual fantasies.
If anything your example proves my point.

>>102597778
show proof you're not a disgrace to your parents

>>102597142
>Separation of artist and art and all that.
And I disagree with that only because of the presentation, sure it's a character: but that looks WAY MORE LIKE COPE if she has to do it because Gunrun forced her hand to.

It would be like if I ran a youtube channel showcasing some pretty competent video game skill, while also talking over it as if I'm the one actually playing. Then, someone comes out and reveals it was never me all along, I was talking over someone else's recorded footage whom I paid to play on my behalf.

Now, if I came out and said "The personal life of me, portraying the persona playing this game, isn't tied to me at all. It's just separation of the art and all that!" Literally everybody would see this as the obvious deflection and cope from being caught that it was. Before you say this isn't the same: She's had multiple gachakoi streams in the past year alone. Even if this is supposed to be representative of Nimi the character and not the person, which I do agree with, it still wouldn't make that leak appear any better for her the person. Coming out on her terms means the leaks are now meaningless: Gunrun would appear spiteful if he even took that route because there is no real new information anymore he could give other than something like her address which I don't think he's that far gone to do, yet.

>>102594738
its the culture of amoranth and twitch whores to lie about your relationship status, this is the culture you are protecting

>>102596021
What are some examples of vtubers that have hidden a pregnancy and birth from their audience?

>>102595356
Anon, it was a common practice in show business not to share your domestic shit with your audience. That only changed when they realized they could make money off the drama. Aside from that, do you want actors to suddenly break character and inform the audience about domestic shit in the middle of a show? I doubt it.

>>102594551 (OP)
>everyone knows AZKi is married
>AZKi never brings it up
>nobody cares, everyone is happy

>>102597800
that's bullshit because nobody has a problem when they share things from their day or bring up sibling or parents it's just the one part of their life you want to pretend doesn't exist

>>102597814
>If the content they make involves satisfying an underlying feeling that involves a sexual context why does that suddenly nullify the entire relationship and transaction?
The question is what you are a fan of. Your definition of a fan being "Fans are people who like and support a person for the content they make or the things that they do" is so reductive it loses any meaning.
They claim to be vtuber fans with an oshi, but they aren't.
They don't even like vtubing itself once the sexual component is removed, which shows you that what they were a fan of isn't the vtubing, it's the sexual component.
Just embrace it and I can call you based, but this denial isn't fooling anyone.

>>102597845
>Not analogous as nimi isn't quitting streaming. She simply put the end to a delusion that you projected onto her against her will (see the "we can't be friends" stream).
>against her will
Did she make all those Valentines streams and ASMRs against her will, too?
Listen the concept would be fine if GFE hasn't been her bread and butter since before she was even green woman.

>>102596365
Then I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If your point isn't that people who don't give a shit about kayfabe don't watch vtubers and so vtubers who break kayfabe will go broke (which is a laughable notion), what is your point?

>>102597955
And this is the main difference.
Does anyone care that AZKi is married? No. She doesn't rub it in your face and has never stopped a stream to say "By the way, my husband and I appreciate your devotion to AZKi the character". You know this going in and she doesn't break character to remind you of that.

>>102594551 (OP)
This place has ALOT of Nimi schizos one guying and spamming threads. Yeah I'm sure Naplings are impacted but I wouldn't take this place as an indicator.

>>102594551 (OP)
she shouldn't be dating in the first place and this now opens the hobby, which was about like idols and moe anime, to just being normal ethot flesh streamers with anime models.
Like the whole point of vtubers is that they were closer to idols, not that they were anime girls

>>102597963
> share things from their day or bring up sibling or parents it's just the one part of their life you want to pretend doesn't exist

Then you seriously do not understand what kayfabe is, newfriend. Literally pro wrestlers have feuds outside the ring and it's still part of kayfabe. Do not even pretend they are sharing everything in their life. Everything they choose to share is part of the kayfabe.

>>102597977
>They don't even like vtubing itself once the sexual component is removed, which shows you that what they were a fan of isn't the vtubing, it's the sexual component.
NTA and I don't think Nimi is like this, but what if they watch it for the sexual component?
Think of people who watch Mel on Chaturbate.

Why does every bait thread need to use a super generic reference sheet type image of the vtuber?
Is this some catalog monkey thing I'm too generalpilled to understand?

>>102595356
that's like, the whole point of vtubers over fleshtubers

>>102597845
Michael Jordan was not just a basketball player, he was a sportstar. As a baseball player he remained a sportstar. Yet the fans left him, so they weren't real fans according to you. Vtubing is providing a fantasy. That is inherent in the act, otherwise there would be no need for a virtual avatar and made-up lore surrounding the character and kayfabe to keep it up. The relationship between her and parts of her audience was that she provides that fantasy and they support her doing it. She is no longer providing the fantasy, so they are no longer supporting her.

You can wave your dick around about who's a "real" fan and who's a "fake" fan and try to dictate what should and shouldn't matter to other people, but the bottom line is there existed a dynamic and she altered that dynamic. To sit there and pretend otherwise is delusion.

>>102598091
Then that's fine and arguably even based. Just admit that's what you are and I have no issue with it. The issue comes from the coping.

>>102594551 (OP)
What do you not understand about kayfabe or whatever the kids call it these days.

Playing a character is different than your real life. If they don't want to play a character then just go do real life streaming, but oh wait most of them are somewhat average uggos who don't want to be whores openly, so instead they hide it, but when they get success they become open about it.

I want this to happen because it reveals who is good to follow and who is not. When I watch Amelia Watson, I'm not watching the person behind the character, I'm watching the character, Amelia Watson.

Man, you losers constantly whine about too many sluts and not enough “trad wife”-type girls, and then rage when a vtuber actually becomes a trad wife.

>>102598119
>Yet the fans left him, so they weren't real fans according to you.
nigga either read what I'm saying and respond to that or save yourself the time, I'm not gonna argue about positions you choose to invent.

>>102598119
the years proved charles barkley right

Imagine being the morally righteous faggot making fun of the nimi fans who are hurting right now. Yeah they never had a chance with her but this is 4chan theiteral sewers of the internet. Why the hell would you be so sanctimonious about them being upset about this. Kys

>>102597955
AZKi's situation makes it so much hotter. Are there any other chubas who are known to be married? I really hope Watame and Flare are.

>>102594551 (OP)
It wouldn't be part of the content if it leaked. It wouldn't be constantly in the comments. It wouldn't be constantly shitposted, not just for her but every ex-corpo now.

>>102598162
Are you a woman or a vtuber? Im curious what kind of person leaves replies like that here?

>>102597370
>people watch Nimi because she's a good entertaining streamer
Good one.

>>102594551 (OP)
Answer me this OP: Why did she wait until all her merchandise and tickets were sold out to make this announcement?

>>102598072
This anon gets it. If I wanted the flesh ethot streamer experience, I'll just go watch that instead

>>102597560
Because Nimi is a normie and doesn't like fake shit, she rather take the revenue hit than to keep living a lie for god knows how many more year and keep walking on egg shells. Instead of having the fantasy shatter when the enviable yab happens she gives everyone a controlled bumpy landing where you can decide now to leave or stay. Or would you have it she crash the plane in a yab and everything is ruined?

>>102594551 (OP)
She stopped doing ASMR because she doesn't want to deal with the holochuds.
She didn't keep it secret on purpose.
She wants the hit to ccv. She doesn't want weirdo viewers.

She was in Hololive, not vdere or vallure where you can literally get in a discord call with the vtubers and arrange a date with your favorite if you're an oiler. Different type of person - not a whore.

>>102598180
I read what you said, and what you said was dumb. "Michael Jordan changed so fans left him." Yes and Nimi changed too, so fans left her. It's not fucking complicated you stupid cunt.

>>102598298
Why do you assume the most fucked up evil narrative? It's just as likely that she was taking advantage of the hype surrounding her going indie than it is some machiavellian conniving plan

>>102597935
Holo JP has several mothers and married members among them

>>102595356
If in the middle of an action movie the actor put the rifle down, sat down, stopped acting and started talking about his real life, would you be surprised people didn't like it?

>>102598351
If she "doesn't like fake shit", she would've divulged this information on her redebut as Nimi.
But no, she waited until her merch and her concert tickets sold out before revealing it because she DOESN'T want to take the revenue hit

>>102598383
>It's just as likely that she was taking advantage of the hype
Yeah, and she knew revealing she was engaged and planning on getting married and having kids in the near future would get in the way of making more money, so she hid it until the right opportunity. She waited until she wrung you guys out enough and the backlash to announcing it would get overshadowed by something else. There's evil in good intentions. She likely didn't mean to hurt you cucklings, but she wanted what's best for her family so that meant stepping all over her fans to do so.

>>102597977
>They don't even like vtubing itself once the sexual component is removed
I'm going to break this down as simply as possible for you, Anon. Male attachment is psychologically linked to attraction, if you have two friends and one of them looks like a supermodel and the other looks like Gorlock the Destroyer then (all else being the same) you are going to treat the supermodel better. You can say this is a sexual component, and while technically correct it's a subconscious component that happens in the lizard-brain, not a conscious decision reached through rational thought. Now if you want to be hyper-rational about this like some high-minded faggot then all male-female interaction involves some level of sexual component because all men treat more attractive women nicer than unnattractive women, in all fields, at all times, in all spaces, for all of history. Therefore the whole fucking conversation is irrelevant. You have successfully deconstructed male existence.

Except that's obviously retarded. There being this sexual component does not nullify someone being a fan of someone, especially when the content that person makes panders specifically to that component, it is merely an inherent part of the interaction.

>>102594551 (OP)
Yes, we should be grateful to her to not keep milking the parasocials. She content with meeting the target and made the announcement to put them out of misery.
Thank you merciful Nimi.
You're the epitome of a selfless benevolent human being.

Why do people pretend vtubers don't talk about their real life all the time? I can't think of any that would be completely in character

>>102598369
Best case you're being intentionally bad faith, worst case you legitimately can't read.
Here's the thesis with your chosen example:
If people like michael jordan for being a basketball player and call themselves basketball fans that's fine.
If people stop liking michael jordan because he stopped playing basket ball and they call themselves basketball fans that's fine.
If people stop liking michael jordan because it turns out he's vegan and they call themselves basketball fans that should give you to think.
The thing they liked about him was never actually the basketball, it was something else, such as political or dietary views I guess.
Hence they aren't actually basketball fans.

Stop reducing statements so far that all that's left is "A changed so people leave", you're dumbing it down so far it loses all meaning.
That's like saying you say "you can only be a true fan of lizzo".

>>102598503
If you're buying a fucking keychain because you think you're going to fuck an anime girl you should probably go see a psychiatrist.

>>102598624
See >>102598080

she should have announced it before the debut

>>102598562
>There being this sexual component does not nullify someone being a fan of someone
It being the most essential part does nullify it though.

If in your example you have two friends you like, one is a supermodel the other is Gorlock, and then the supermodel got wrinkles and you suddenly stop doing stuff with her, would you say you were genuinely a friend of the supermodel? Or were you just simping and hoping for more?

>>102598480
So her option is to piss off the company that made her plushie and tank the sales, piss off those owners, get her blacklisted to other merch companies and make her look like the biggest vtuber idiot that shot herself in the foot? Just to save unicorn's feelings? Is that what you are saying? Jesus fuck know how to see it from a different perspective.

>>102597894
>Before you say this isn't the same
It isn't the same. Not even remotely. Kayfabe is inherently baked into vtubing, the character and the person portraying the character are meant to have a degree of separation by very design. Again, we have seen this play out in Japan. Even Rushia could have survived it if she wasn't doing absolutely insane shit behind the scenes, at the height of that drama she still had a large audience who were on her side before it came out she was backstabbing other vtubers. Someone trying to remove that separation makes you the victim of an attack and that's far more palatable than you removing that separation yourself.

>>102598631
I don't buy vtuber merch or whatever because I'm a standard otaku whose wife is a 2D child. I buy keychains of my waifu so I can look at her cute face everyday while I draw myself fucking her.

>>102594551 (OP)
I would have preffered her to not be Nimi if she intended to get Married.
Getting married? Cool. Just don't fund your condoms with lonely men's money.

>>102598740
That was an example of how attraction plays into all male-female interactions, it's not applicable to the Nimi situation because Nimi made content that panders to that specific desire in her audience.
>But she said
What she said doesn't matter, only what she did.

>>102599035
>Just don't fund your condoms with lonely men's money
you're in the wrong industry

>>102598801
I'm saying if, IF, Nimi had to announce this from leaks instead of on her own terms, it would look just as bad to us as what happened with Rushia did to Fandeads. The news wasn't that the relationship or the leak happened but that she had to go through some incredibly complex steps to hide it, and it was revealed because one of them got stupid. The kayfabe was shattered.

The degree of separation only works if it's clear that it's not being done for the purposes of hiding intentions. Her coming out now is her coming clean with her intentions, gunrun leaking it would be fandead apocalypse 2.0

To me, her behavior seems consistent. Didn't watch her as LemonLeaf, but she also disclosed having a bf
She disclosed having a fiance as an indie.

People like to make a big deal out of everything nowadays. Tape the proposal. Make a weekend trip for the dress. Making up a hashtag for the upcoming wedding.
If anything, I think it makes sense to just out yourself than stressing over someone leaking this shit.
Still a lose-lose situation because people are calling her a grifter for debuting with merch, but a big former corpo talent like her and Saba would obviously do that. And if she hadn't revealed it herself, schizos and shitposters here would make fun of the naplings supporting her financially, not to mention some saplings feeling like they got taken advantage of. Hell, some already feel like that.

This cuckolded society will shield women from the consequences of their retarded choices
The very existence of vtubers in the form they do now is a symptom of a greater disease
But if you're gonna be a vtuber anyway, don't pretend you don't know what you're doing: leeching money off loneliness. That's what makes this announcement so dumb, and ledditors will defend le epick queen for updoots, virtue signaling and overall cuckoldry

>>102598628
You're the person dumbing things down. "Vtubing is youtubing with a virtual avatar. There are no other components of it therefore Nimi is still a vtuber therefore nothing outside of that is relevant." That has been your entire argument from the start, and now you want to accuse me of being disingenuous? Kill yourself.

>>102599159
I'm pretty sure you are if you are having this much trouble understanding the backlash.

>>102599121
So we're shifting the discussion from if being interested in vtubers primarily due to sexual desire makes you less of a fan of vtubers to if she should take blame for breaking that desire?
Duly noted.

>>102599204
>schizos and shitposters here would make fun of the naplings supporting her financially
They're already doing that. Hell it's even worse that she announced it herself since continuing to support her after this makes you a financial cuckold.

Imagine funding another man's babies and the sex that leads to said babies

>>102594551 (OP)
>uses your superchat to donate to Ironmouse
>uses your plushie money for her wedding

>>102598745
I don't really care about unicorns because I avoid being parasocial towards vtubers but the optics of all these paint her in a bad light, especially to her fans. It makes it seem like she took advantage of their good will only to pull the rug from under them after all has been said and done.

>>102599279
Anon, this is the third post you made where you just invent shit. Just because you say I said something doesn't make it true
>There are no other components of it therefore Nimi is still a vtuber therefore nothing outside of that is relevant
>Michael Jordan changed so fans left him
>the fans left him, so they weren't real fans according to you
Three statements, all made up, only to turn it into a "no u".
Get fucked kek

>>102594551 (OP)
She could have announced it after graduating and before redebuting.
But she didn't. She literally waited until her merch sales were over and done and dropped it then.

You cannot explain this without her looking bad for doing so.
And I'm not even gonna touch upon how bad of an idea to even bring this up as a "lore drop" is to begin with.

>>102594551 (OP)
Exactly this, she prob knows way more about the Rushia incident than we do and rather bite down now than to risk something in the future

>>102599383
Any vtuber donation is going to do that, none of them are going to die alone

>>102598932
Based.

>>102599179
You're wrong. Again, if Rushia was not stabbing other holomems in the back behind-the-scenes and just in general being a completely schizo bitch, she would have survived. She would have taken a hit, but she'd have bounced back from it. Again, Towa got caught with a guy in her apartment because she left her mic on, and she took a hit, and she survived. Now look at the wave of people who have announced their husbands and bfs and lost a majority of their audience soon after. Outside of schizos on /vt/ people would understand her wanting to hide it because that's what a vtuber is supposed to fucking do. It's part of the job.

>>102599204
This guy gets it, out yourself now after merch and concert sales all while the biggest vtuber agency meltdown is happening to split the drama cycle. Hide out for a week, filter all the schizos and keep doing what you love without a huge weight on your shoulders. If anything she knows how to play this game.

>>102599417
she clearly thinks of it as her business and made the shrewd business decision of milking the idolfags. i think it will have slow long term blowback but we'll see

>>102599264
So if she didn't announce it it wouldn't be making money from loneliness? At least you know where your money is going

>>102599455
>You cannot explain this without her looking bad for doing so.
Source on the marriage being confirmed 7 months ago?

>>102595356
Shes a cute anime girl who is cute for (you). Thats vtubing, if not i would just watch some greasy male nerd play civ on twitch which im not gonna do.

>>102599511
It's not a concidence she dropped this while Vshojo was going nuclear, she was one of the smartest in holoEN without a doubt afterall

>>102599315
Note this *farts*

If someone makes content that relies on the audience having a sexual desire than having that sexual desire does not disqualify them from being a fan, it's inherent to the interaction. I cannot state this more plainly. I'll ask ChatGPT to do it for you.

>Sure! Here's a simpler version of that sentence:
>If someone creates stuff meant to be sexy, then it's normal for people to like it because they find it sexy. That’s part of the point.

>>102599536
She didn't meet the guy yesterday, they were together for a while by now. But she was still selling merch, so she decided to wait with telling people about it.

>>102599494
That's literally why donating to any vtuber or woman in general is retarded
>>102599529
No, she would be leeching off of it, but a good portion of vtuber fans are more self-aware that most people here think, and are willing to just buy into the kayfabe

>>102594551 (OP)
Worse than both options is the normalization of vtubers making this kind of information public, which will happen if she retains most of her audience which appears will probably be the case. I'm not delusional enough to expect every vtuber to not have a personal life or anything like that, but I also don't want to hear about it.

its gotta be a little weird to be dating a woman who likely makes 4x much as you, at least

>>102595356
The reason she's so popular and was able to be become a multimillionaire is precisely because she didn't break the immersion until now..

>>102599653
I dread this scenario too. I don't want to be a crumbling castle...

>>102599536
I mean isn't it obvious that she left holo precisely to avoid being forced to travel so much in order to start her family? What is there to confirm unless you are a brainlet

>>102599420
>I never said that it's just the core of my entire argument
Kill yourself.

>>102599616
Merch sales ended almost 6 months ago.
Why not announce it earlier then if it was something that was decided that long ago?

>>102599653
Yes and no. Yes it sucks that this is one more step into the "vtubers are just streamers" cancer, but on the other hand any girl that does the same is one more girl you can drop now rather than later and then instead watch someone worth it.

>>102599690
Guy might be loaded for all we know.

>>102599703
Ame, Gura and Mumei then?

>>102599709
Nope, she had to wait out the oshispark stuff too. She didn't drop it until that was done.

>>102599653
I agree I also dont wanna hear about it.
But... its not like this will make me stop watching her...

>>102599753
All had problems already prior to their graduation unlike Fauna who just quit. There was absolutely no indication.

Does anyone have that screenshot of the old post that explained it really well cause I'm tired of telling tourists why it's bad when vtubers feel the need to ruin the escapism and mutually beneficial vtuber-fan relationship they got going

>>102598351
>Because Nimi is a normie and doesn't like fake shit
That's literally the exact opposite of how she was selling herself.

>>102599765
Yes the oshispark was surely something she planned for like 7 months ago

>>102599817
Have fun listening to her long yaps about the hubby and the married life.

>>102599417
I don't disagree, not telling until now was purely business. The other option was to debut with no merch and to not do the concert and be truthful. She choose business, she choose number, personally I think it was the right decision

>>102599753
Wasn't Mumei basically on the verge of going permanently mute? In her case I'd 100% understand her never coming back and getting married or something. Gura's also always been sickly. Both Ame and Gura are smart enough to keep the kayfabe going.

>>102599885
It pretty much started being planned after her initial merch sale period was over, yes.
Anything else you want to try?

>>102599894
We dont even know if she have siblings, thats how little she talk about her private life so fat doubt

>>102599934
I'm sure you have source on that since you are so sure of yourself then

>>102597924
It's not lying though because majority of vtuber audience who buy into the fantasy do not try to pry into the private life. Yes, there are bad actors who are obsessed with the flesh behind the anime girl, but even in /vt/ it would be a minority. If you want your private life to be part of your character, then go ahead, but don't switch gears when you sold out your merch with no refunds.

>>102599959
>thats how little she talk about her private life
Well then why the fuck would she start now? Makes no sense. If she can control herself not to gush about her personal life, why did she lose control now?

The ONLY authentic vtuber possible is a girl/woman who is unironically a social reject, awkward, used to be a neet, just average attractiveness, but likes anime and cute things and is just trying her best to carve a spot in this world.
This, however, is impossible for a woman, not only because of their inherent nature, but because men will forever simp for them to an absolutely unholy degree and reward shitty woman behaviour.

As one of the parasocial viewers, im very thankful she went ahead and made this public, rather than keeping it hidden and us finding out some other way.

I tend to get very emotionally attached to streamers, so while im not proud of it, this news hurts to hear. However, Nimi has revealed her marriage in a way that does not feel manipulative or ill intended. I'm thankful that shes not trying to milk us for our parasocial money and is instead trying to set boundaries and make her relationship clear.

I can't blame anyone other than myself for being so parasocial in the first place... so Ill just cope with you guys on 4chan and then move on with my life lol.

(Also, the bros giving the grounded, well-adjusted comments really surprised me. I'm glad we have voices of reason here to help guide the crazy people)

I don't like it when they talk about their relationships because she's playing a character. I don't mind it when she talks about her family, and her goals for the future, and her favorite games, and what she did last week, and what she ate yesterday and...ok I'm just jealous.

Do you think normalfags will ever realize that their "oh my god I'm so happy! I'm crying happy tears for you!" is just as parasocial?

>>102597924
>amoranth

>>102596992
Adding onto this, in this circumstance are just extremely fuckin that Nimi’s husband is *this* lucky. Like, imagine hitting that 0.0001% chance that you have a wife that’s a prolific VTuber with a large following and she loves her job AND she wants to have a family with you.

Something like that makes that guy the luckiest man in the world, and everyone’s coping because they can’t have it. It’s kinda as simple as that.

>>102598351
>doesn't like fake shit
Vtubing is fake shit.

>>102600051
>(Also, the bros giving the grounded, well-adjusted comments really surprised me. I'm glad we have voices of reason here to help guide the crazy people)
No problem bro
>am actually one of the crazy people

>>102600002
Did you not read the tweet? It will prob get out eventually either way and she is scared with what happened to Rushia.
I think thats all there is to it. She is a doomer at heart who always overthink things while also being paranoid

>>102600043
>The ONLY authentic vtuber possible is a girl/woman who is unironically a social reject, awkward, used to be a neet, just average attractiveness, but likes anime and cute things and is just trying her best to carve a spot in this world.
Neuro-sama? She only just recently touched grass for the first time.

>>102600130
You say that until you're annoyed by her doing ASMR for her fans or acting chu chu cute for them while being bitchy towards you or her being an obnoxious vegan

>>102599869
Do you even watch her streams? She was mother nature barely ever goes all mommy mode unprompted. She is a nurse, and I don't even think she did any nursey role play since debut, wtf you are talking about. All she talks about is whatever shitty netflick show she is obsessing over, macha lattes, sourdough bread, vampire stores and whatever dumb book she is writing. Other than that is banter about the game and the situation she is in.

>>102600158
>she is scared with what happened to Rushia.
Was she also doxing her coworkers? What a stupid thing to be scared about.

>>102600158
If she was worried about that leaking from the start, the smart play would've been to announce her engagement immediately after graduating from Fauna like a regular idol on her PL and then start Nimi.

>>102600072
>oh my god I'm so happy! I'm crying happy tears for you
it's appropriate to say that stuff to your friends or family but yeah saying this to a random vtuber woman that you have a transactional relationship with is as weird and parasocial as anything else yeah

>>102599934
>Tick tock tick tock
Bad ISP? Got that juicy source soon anon?

>>102599708
So you're conceding that you invented that position because you projected that it was my argument. Got it.

>>102600130
>he thinks marriages are fun
lol, lmao
Sure, there is sex and fun stuff but a lot of it is dealing with life together with another shitty human being no matter how pretty she is

>>102594551 (OP)
It's manufactured. It's not real, nor is it a normal part of streamer or vtuber culture.

>>102600072
No, as long as it's performative positivity they think it's ok.

>>102600230
What if the engagement is days / weeks old news anon

>>102594551 (OP)
CobsonHWABAG

>>102600173
>>102600278
The perfect woman... is not a woman at all

>>102594551 (OP)
>>102596422
At least this clarify WHY she left holoen, no stupid rrats like (you) believe

>>102600130
Imagine hitting that 0.0001% chance that you have a precious wifey that'll lock your balls in cold steel while she dances in a skimpy cow bikini on stream.

>>102600130
Basically yes.
But you can notice how the narrative is shifting, yesterday it was all relatively raw emotions so you could see the real reasons.
People calling her a whore, being jealous, and considering it cuckoldry.
Today the narrative shifts from "her having a partner is bad" to "it's because it breaks the immersion" or "her selling asmr in the past means it's exploitative", because the gooners have noticed that using their real emotions to explain makes them sound pathetic.
It's just as simple as you said in the end.

I have never not once seen it be fun when a streamer becomes a "family streamer" or "couple streamer". No one cares, it's annoying.
Even if she doesn't and just wanted to get that out there, why? Why say it as Nimi and why now? Why not on her alt? Why treat vtubing like normal streaming?

>>102600351
Vtubing started with women pretending to be AI. Vtubing ends with AI pretending to be sexy little girls.

>>102600417
The motivations of a human being are layered and nuanced, the immediate response and the delayed processing merely reflect different facets of the inner workings of our psychology

>>102594551 (OP)
nimi is that you

>>102594551 (OP)
She should've admitted to it before debut instead of findoming her fans. When she finally admits there will be no more asmr, her whales will dry up.
Idgaf about the unicorn angle, but she was dishonest and took advantage of her fans, and if you support her after this, you're stupid. It will only get worse.

>>102600417
More like yesterday had tons of antis swoop in just to post "hahaha KEKKKKKKKKKKS!" drive-by style while now you see more of what actual vtuber fans think about the situation

>>102600417
>But you can notice how the narrative is shifting
All the things you just said are still happening all over this board. The "immersion" rebuttal is due to tourists keep bringing up the "vtuber is not your girlfriend" retardation. There is no shift. Cucklings will forever be known as just that.

>>102600072
I'm going to risk being called a virgin on the internet for telling you this, but that's just how women interact. Even in real life. Even when they're best friends of ten years. It's not strictly parasocial in the same way, but women view relationships as far more transactional and performative than how men view them (and this is because millions of years of evolutionary pressures have molded them this way; it's not a bug, they're not evil, they just are what they are) which has many similar features to the parasocial relationship. Then you have the guys who imitate their behaviours to try and get an 'in' with them.

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79LoNu1YygE

>>102600613
>They're not evil
Lol

>>102600417
I dont hate them or find them pathetic but I do think it's sad (non derogatory) that people get attached to the degree they see themselves in a relationship with a girl they don't really know and will never interact with.

Making GFE content is kinda abusive to start with since they know what kind of people it's coming from and for what reason. Most vtubers have an element of it but dont make it your main content.

>>102596611
>>102596665
It was really uncool of Fuana to do so much reputational damage to the company, making people think Hololive was forcing people to do concerts or whatever, when it was all her own choice.

>>102600555
no i'm still here stirring the pot

>>102600431
That confirms nothing. She didnt say the wedding was happening in 1w.
He/she could literally have proposed 2w ago...

>>102594551 (OP)
I've been sending subtle mind waves to her husband asking him to drink lots of beer and beat his wife so she better hope it doesn't make it to him

>>102600613
>they're not evil
The 19th amendment was a mistake, anon. Even women agree on this.

>>102599934
H-hello is this thing on? You there anon? Can you hear me?

>>102599900
It's the right decision from a business standpoint, but that begs the question of if she actually cares for her fans or not

>>102600417
>gooners
This term has been overused to the point of meaninglessness. Gooning involves ejaculating at least four times in a single day. Getting an erection while looking at an attractive woman is or feeling some emotional connection to an anime girl is not gooning. Twitter is the death of language.

>>102600940
>if she actually cares for her fans or not
If she ever cared about her fans, she would've been honest from the beginning, profits be damned.

>>102600940
she "cares" about her fans in the same way as a minor celebrity signing autographs at a convention. she appreciates your support and business but past that there is no relationship

>>102600940
No, she doesn't lol
None of the vtuber care about their fans past the social pressure to not look like a cunt
Under the hood they do not care and some even delight in making their fans upset

>>102600750
They don't actually, anon. I assure you almost everyone who enjoys vtubers who do some GFE does NOT think they're in an actual relationship with them. Nor do they think they'll have a chance at getting together with them for real.
That's just what normalfags and twitter activists think so it lets them label everyone as a crying incel who's mad he wasn't the one.

The actual issue, and this has been said many times, it that it simply takes away from the escapism. The same way you don't want to see vtuber girls discuss current politics or their religious beliefs you also don't want to open a chatting stream with a cute virtual anime girl just for her to tell you about all the dick she actually sucked. She's meant to be here with her fans.
They don't talk about any such stuff and keep it private and play games, chat and sing for you and in turn you give them your time, support and money. And then a few years later everyone will have had a happier life for it. That's the unwritten contract.

>>102599900
She already stated that she wants to be a streamer until she literally retires due to age so yes it's pure business.
Come clean once you have made a solid foundation to stand on and after the initial blowback not much can screw up your horizon.
She ain't stupid afterall

>>102600860
I don't think the scorpion is evil for stinging the frog but that doesn't mean I advocate for the scorpion to have free access to the frog's back.

>>102600981
Unironically wish every person that spams that retarded word gets aids from their uncle and dies

>>102601010
Yeah and if I was a napling this realization would be my sign to exit and move to greener pastures

>>102601107
Ironically in that instance the uncle would be gooning.

>>102601061
>that it simply takes away from the escapism.
very true, even when I watch male fleshstreamers and they are gonna start talk about something they did at PAX or some place they were just at I zone out so hard, I really do not care im there for the fun gameplay and jokes

>>102596258
Only tourists haven't gone through their self-revelation arc yet.

>>102596221
where in her character says that she can't get married?

>>102601268
I think we need a copypasta for all the retarded questions like this at this point.

>>102601173
it would be true karmic justice

>>102601094
Some creatures are inherently evil. You aren't wrong for hating the starving wolf that killed the child. It's not evil to want the swindler to receive his comeuppance.

>>102600940
I think it has to be split, it can't be black or white.
Looks if she keeps it a secret and she fucks up and it's revealed she'd been married she is a lair and whore and grifter.
If she told us before debut, not as bad but still a liar, whore, but not a grifte. But she losses a ton of revenue and starts off this career path by a self inflicted shoot to the foot and may never recover.
Or... what she did now. Maximize profit throw all that money in an index fund to keep her and her future family financially secure grab, all the Fauna fans to lock in the subs and make a solid fan base. Reveal this because she doesn't want to keep it hidden any longer because she does care, but only after she profited off it. Shit is a balance, this is show biz and the internet.

>>102600940
I think the answer is clear. If she was trying to be fair to the fan base she built up over the years, she would have told everyone on her alt after graduating.
In fact it would have even made people understand her motivation for leaving better and caused far less "I can't believe Yagoo forced my poor oshi out like this!" shitposting.

But she didn't.

>>102601379
>You aren't wrong for hating the starving wolf that killed the child
Seems like a waste of time and energy. Acknowledging the nature of the wolf and restricting its ability to access children doesn't require hate. And it's a fucking wolf it doesn't understand or care if you hate it. This is circular. Evil is an abstract. Dangerous creatures should be restricted is a point we can agree on.

>>102598192
If only we had all just shut up and jammed.

>>102594551 (OP)
I'd prefer it if a woman that has boyfriend/husband retire from streaming, because their boyfriend/husband is directly involved in exploiting their audience for more money, like amouranth and her toxic marriage.

He is the pimp, she is the ho and you are the mark.

Nimi should quit streaming and focus on being a mother instead of begging for donations while her husband exploits her fans.

Hey anons, I want to say something.
Even if Fauna and Nimi didn't love you, I do. I love shitposting on here, and I think we all have some degree of shared understanding of how messed up everything is with vtubers and in vtubers and around vtubers, yet we can't help loving anime girls, we just can't help it.
No matter how schizo your posts get and how many times you call me a retarded faggot, I will still love you. I accept all your posts as they are.

>>102601064
This is why I like her, I like my streamers so be smart. Maybe because it relatable? Make you think huh.

Get all those twitch whores out of here, the gooners can have those.

>>102601692
She's probably the holo who's the least different from those, anon. The only difference is her using an anime avatar.
She isn't an otaku, she isn't into Japan, she isn't into idol stuff, she's as close to a normal streamer girl as you could find.

>>102601692
>me grug me smart me sit in cuck chair really make you think huh it relatable

>>102600043
I know one that's actually a weirdo and doesn't take any payments or sell any merch, she's just parasocial as fuck with her community

>>102601692
I fully agree. I legit get triggered watching some home erectus stumbling around on stream.

Smart, witty and funny then you have me. Good at games is plus but not mandatory as long as it's not literally infant level of skill

Time has a way of healing, or so they say
So why am I still left here cryin'?
Caught in these ways of emotions as people stare
I find there's no real place for me to hide

Well I've been trying in vain
Was only fooling myself
With each passing day
The pain still stays the same

Caught you in the arms of another
I've been dying everyday since then
Caught you in the arms of another
I've found out about you

Caught you in the arms of another
I've been dying everyday since then
Caught you in the arms of another
I've found out about you

What more is it that you need
Right now clearly it's not me
With every minute that I gave to you
The punches that I took from you
Why was there no warning, love?

What more is it that you need
Right now clearly it's not me
Despite everything I did for you
Excused if I'm surprised
Was the moment that I found out that we were through, oh

Caught you in the arms of another
I've been dying everyday since then
Caught you in the arms of another
I've found out about you
Caught you in the arms of another
I've been dying everyday since then
Caught you in the arms of another
I've found out about you

When everything seemed alright
You turn and break my heart
Didn't I deserve your love?
It kills me inside to think of his arms
Wrapped around you now
Is he a better lover than I?

Well I've been trying in vain
Was only fooling myself
With each passing day
The pain still stays the same

Caught you in the arms of another
I've been dying everyday since then
Caught you in the arms of another
I've found out about you
(4x)

Time has a way of healing, or so they say
So why am I still left here.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZhBlM3SYxA

>>102601507
The hatred for evil is very much a necessity in upholding justice. Even if the animal in question is incapable of understanding abstractions, the actions they take themselves are what paints it as evil. A starving wolf preying on a child is evil because ate the child, not because it's a wolf. Likewise, swindling people out of their money is an act of evil, because it takes selfishness and the belief that others are less deserving of their property or goods than you are to receive them. If Nimi's entire purpose for her redebut as Nimi was to just drain as much money from her fans as possible before her wedding, that is evil. The balance between what is being offered to her fans and what she receives isn't equal. I'm sure many of you naplings were under the illusion that Nimi would be like an extension of Fauna, but without all the corporate controls. That you would get to enjoy her content free from any distractions. Instead, what do you get? You have here a promise that there will be less content moving forward. A shift in appeal and dynamics between the viewers and the entertainer, as the lore dump implies her husband and future children will be a crucial part of her character moving forward. You aren't getting more of the same, you're getting something else that you weren't expecting with no way to get more of the same old same old ever again.

To put it simply, if Nimi were a live service game, she's effectively announced the end of service with no way to play once servers close.

>>102594551 (OP)
The 4 schizos that freak over gfe would react the same way either way

>>102601692
>Get all those twitch whores out of here, the gooners can have those
nimi is literally being pimped out by her husband, it's why he isn't a streamer himself, he is managing her account, nimi isn't smart, her husband is smart, you were always being played, your interests were being targeted for financial exploitation

her husband forced her to leave hololive because he wants to solo manage her and retain bigger cut of your money

When are you gonna learn, stay away from western whores

>>102602064
>The hatred for evil is very much a necessity in upholding justice
No, understanding of it is the necessity since that's what leads to being able to contain it. Not reading the rest because again this is a circular conversation about abstract concepts. Hate at as many scorpions as you like and they won't stop being scorpions.

>>102597357
>I wouldn't make my personal life public for my own safety
One day a vtuber (and her bf) will 100% get murdered by a jilted unicorn.

These last 24 hours were fucking hilarious
Thank you unitards for the raucous entertainment.
All this is gonna do is filter your retards out of the pool. It's not like any one you had a significant impact on her career, lmao.

>>102602696
>career

>>102594551 (OP)
ntrchads win again

>>102602696
Yeah it's the twitter activists that truly support the girls and buy their dakis and go to their idol concerts

>>102602755
>Yeah it's the twitter activists that truly support the girls
Exactly. Just look at all the games tailored to twitter activists and how successful they are!

>>102601656
Idol culture does it right. Sure, you can date, you just have to quit and then you can live your life however you want.

>>102602827
it's no different than normie women on the cock carousel settling down after they're done with it, they're just on all your digital cocks instead

>>102602755
unironically yes.
I've seen more engagement and support from people IRL than there will ever be on this board. There's what, less than a thousand people here on an average day?
Then take a percentage of that already small number, making it smaller, and you have the unitards. You don't affect shit, hahaha.

>>102602157
Hey have fun making up stories in your mind to get mad at.
Textbook schizo behaviour, do you even read your own post?

>>102602696
>It's not like any one you had a significant impact on her career
her career was already going downhill even before this, she needs to just retire and make mom vlog content

>>102596487
Massive cope

>>102602939
my sister was a streamer for 6 years, her exhusband literally pretended to be her when talking to her whales

this is common industry stuff

>>102602755
I heard that about Shiori and her income went up

>>102603064
Her merch sales went down

>>102603061
lol

any new pregnant or lactating art yet?

>>102594551 (OP)
Honestly, just keep this shit to roommate accounts. The schizos are going to freak out no matter where it's posted, the tourists still get to performatively fellate her, and the people who just want the kayfabe maintained get their plausible deniability.
>>102595356
Listen tourist, at least do your due diligence and understand what kayfabe is before you invade a hobby.

>>102595356
Kayfabe exists for a reason.

>>102594551 (OP)
It would've been infinitely better because then /vt/ can just call people who doxxed her schizos and sisters and jsut ignore them. Now we can't even deny it on Towa.....

>>102603104
yeah it's unfortunate, i say exhusband but they are still technically married, just separated, she had a mental breakdown awhile ago and hasn't recovered, he still tries to use her to farm her whales but she wants to move on from it

i think the instinct to pimp out your streamer gf/wife is too strong for most men, it's easy money to exploit idiots

all this because you mfs get no pussy lmao

>>102603370
Anon I'm so jealous you get to fuck a fat braphog like your gf...

>>102594551 (OP)
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
FAUNA WILL NOT DIE A LONELY SPINSTER
SHE WILL GET MARRIED
SHE WILL BE HAPPY
SHE WILL GET PREGNANT AND BE THE MOMMY SHE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE
THERE WILL BE MATERNITY STREAMS
SHE WILL KNOW THE JOY OF MAKING A FAMILY
SHE WILL HAVE BARE MINIMUM 6 CHILDREN
SHE WILL CONVINCE (YOU) TO GET MARRIED AND REPRODUCE
YOU WILL MAKE IT
GET FUCKED UNICORNS
GET FUCKED BPD WHORES WHO WILL NEVER BE HAPPY AND DIE ALONE TRYING TO DRAG EVERYONE ELSE INTO THEIR PIT
GET FUCKED HOLOLIVE

>>102594551 (OP)
I'm not outraged at all, but I don't really understand why she let the cat out of the bag.
It's not a surprise whatsoever that she's been in a relationship this whole time, but her fans always gave me the impression that she was pretty much a GFE streamer.

I mean, from where I'm sitting, this makes about as much sense to me as hearing that the top earner at a hostess club has decided to talk about her husband with the clientele.

>>102603370
like this anon says >>102603497 i have a fat wife that i love but even me and the wife talked about the nimi shit this morning

she likes that nimi was open about it instead of hiding it, i was in the camp of ruining kayfabe is stupid long term because she's making her nimi account just an IRL account now, it's shitting where you eat

Elon will replace all those whores with ai, trust and believe.

>>102603497
Think long and hard about your response: what's worse and why? Fucking a fat chick, or being a loser in love with women that will never meet you and stuck in a cycle of looking for the next one that doesn't remind you if how undesireable you are in reality?

>>102603061
But Nimi is now voluntarily divulging this information under her own free will, unless her 'pimp' making her tell everyone that she has a husband?

So what is the dynamic now if you choose to give a large sum? Can't be giving it to the pimp now, she openly and very proudly said she is getting married. Nimi ain't no one's hoe, she is trying to start a family.

>>102603514
anon you do know her and her husband were together their entire time in hololive and he was actively pimping her out to other men on purpose

that's the kind of man you're clapping for

>>102603682
nta but I never paid her a nickel and I'm laughing at anyone who supported her while thinking their important to her or something.
Those faggots got absolutely rekt and it's delightful to see.

>>102603674
i doubt he wanted her to do that, amouranth did the same thing against her husbands wishes because she had a crash out

>So what is the dynamic now if you choose to give a large sum? Can't be giving it to the pimp now, she openly and very proudly said she is getting married. Nimi ain't no one's hoe, she is trying to start a family
no it's still giving it to a pimp, she isn't retiring to be a mother, he's just going to turn her into sex jokes degradation content now like most of the other female streamers that did this

the only respectable solution is nimi retiring and forcing her husband to woke instead of her husband keeping her chained to streaming

>>102603650
I don't fuck braphogs and I also don't fall in love with vtubers, or online women, or actually any woman for that matter

>>102594551 (OP)
Yes, that is what I would have preferred.

>>102594551 (OP)
Yes, if it was schizos I could have ignored it as a rrat
When it's posted on the official account and made a part of the lore it's unavoidable and shoved in my face

>>102603799
Damn husband can't even control his own hoe

I mean we ignored Schizos bringing up her boyfriend for years. Could easily ignore a marriage and children so long as she kept them off stream.

>>102595356
Are people who make posts like this even vtuber fans? I mean genuinely, are you an actual fan of vtubers or are you just a tourist? Why do you think vtubing blew up when "normal" streamers already exist?

I think the problem is she wasn't punished enough for Eddy so she didn't learn her lesson

>>102594551 (OP)
Should have just quit.
At least no one can say you can't date the streamer now.

>>102594551 (OP)
If she had become a fleshtuber just comfy-vlogging about her baby, that would unironically be more wholesome than whatever the fuck this ended up being.

>>102595356
>goes into a roleplay-based hobbie
>gets baffled by seem people actually roleplaying
Do you have autism? I mean seriously, the clinically diagnosed kind.

Suddenly it's clear that Hololive was innocent all along and it was Fauna/Nimi who was the entitled bitch
Oh how the turns have tabled

>>102594551 (OP)
i'd prefered she'd have stayed single and menless during her sting as a vtuber and when she finally wanted to start a family she should have ended her activities as a vtuber and fucked off to live a normal life.

>4cuckasluppas are in shambles because their virtual coalburner is getting married
Shut this site down permanently

>>102604479
it's not nimi, it's the husband, he wanted to rake in more money from superchats and merch without the covercorp cut, disallowed her to move to japan, made issues about traveling costing too much

he's been pimping her out for years

>>102604516
but she doesn't want to stop, she likes vtubing.
You don't have to watch her, you know.

>>102594551 (OP)
her being in a relationship has been known for years. it would not have been any different if people somehow found out themselves.

Imagine watching this whore for hours, giving her thousands of dollars on SCs that she didn't read, just for her to immediately spread her legs and beg to be cummed inside once she's finished streaming

>>102604349
This is more common than you think. So many /tg/ posters just power gaming and doing 0 rp in DnD campaigns

>>102604754
Worse than that, Nimi has shown signs she's never liked her fans and that her husband is probably the only reason she ever did fan service, so he could get those simp bucks while beings a house husband

Everyone ITT are sexless beta incels angry about shit nobody cares about. You are all niggers who should be put to death for the betterment of society.

>>102595356
It isn't your ordinary, everyday autism, you know, anon-kun. Yes, people in here are simply this fucking delusional. They cannot break their delusion of GFE, even after it is literally spelled out to them that they aren't getting GFE.

>>102604893
I love you anon. Chu <3

>>102604893
I just want to know what I do with all my extra money.

>>102604479
I blame motherhood, if we all just be incels and not have children and only goon to anime waifus the world will be a better place, Ban sex and only do cum tributes on the phone screen!

>>102604893
<3 <3

>>102605123
You could just invest it in Cover Corp... instead of funding the whore's life, profit off the simps instead

>>102604893
i'm in a loving relationship with my wife of almost 9 years, we talked about the nimi situation earlier

she appreciates nimi being honest but doesn't want the husband to become a part of her content
i think it was stupid for her to destroy her kayfabe and that she should have just retired from streaming and become an IRL mommy vlogger if that's what she wants to do

>>102605284
Sure you are bud

>>102594551 (OP)
I am simply repulsed by the idea of being led on to support someone when they have a partner, so I don't watch ones that seem to have one. Of course that's difficult because they hide the fact to farm simpbux. Idol means idol. No mental gymnastics. Otherwise it is a false idol, one that tries to appear as one.

>>102605284
ewww 3d women, 3d women gaming, 3d woman gaming and making whiny noises with that 3d face.
No I'll take anime girl whiny noises and turn that into cute shit

>>102605349
it's really not that hard to get a fat weeb wife anon, just talk to random furry girls on discord

>>102604730
>her being in a relationship has been known for years
You are thinking about pre holo times. This is not even the same guy

>>102605632
id rather stay single

>>102603650
Fucking a fat chick, obviously.

>>102605632
you just know they brap when they orgasm lmao
if it's your thing good for you

>>102594551 (OP)
You could have simply not cultivated a schizo audience but that would have obviously paid less.

>>102605582
The only problem id 3dpd whore behind that character, and its just bound to fail. I cant wait for ai to replace them, i cant wait for them to bitch and whine and beg us to come back. It will be melony all over again just this time its 3dpd behind anime jpeg crying.

>>102604006
But she did have a bf. Nothing schizo about saying she had one it was just the truth