>mint would never join a corpo
So that was a fucking lie

I sure as hell remember when she, as Pomu, tried to make a passive-aggressive remark about everyone assuming she was gonna join Vshojo
>oh really? is that what i'm doing? I didn't know!

>>102609025
mint is getting years and years of karma served back at her

every tit pic she sent out, every passive aggressive remark, every smarmy know it all bit, every fake drama she had with other content creators, she is now eating crow

you could have joined kiara and fuwamoco, but you "knew better"

>>102609025
At the time, she had no intent to join Vshojo. So she wasn't wrong.
But the fact that she ended up joining them in the end still makes that quote age horribly.

>>102609604
nigga, she tried to join hololive and didn't get accepted

>>102610204
She absolutely was wrong, you don't get to cheekily mock people for thinking the most obvious and predictable move is going to happen, and then do the most obvious and predictable move.

>>102608713 (OP)
fuck this shameless grifter man

>>102608713 (OP)
I know I am somewhat disappointed in her, but I hope she now understands that ACAB

>>102610273
should have keep tried, Nene and the twins didnt get accepted the first time they applied, but they kept trying until they pass the audition

>>102608713 (OP)
>So that was a fucking lie
did you fall for it again, bud?

>>102610793
>fuck this shameless grifter man

i would, is she a virgin?, is she's cute?, if so i'd even marry

>>102610349
Objectively, she was right at the time. She was pretty much done with vtubing at that point. But eventually got convinced to join Vshojo. So in the end, she ended up being wrong.

>>102609604
>every tit pic she sent out
where are these alleged tit pics?

>>102610204
>Graduated Jan 20, 2004
>"Been in the works for a year."
You realize that means she still was lying...right?

>>102608713 (OP)
It's pretty baffling, the Vshojo brand had great appeal until a couple days ago
If you were a Vshojo hire it was something to actually brag about, so why hide it?

>>102611061
>Jan 20, 2004
Good job, bud.

>>102611023
No she wasn't, the "uwu i'm retiring I don't wanna be a vtuber anymore i'm going back to school" was a complete farce and only idiots believed it for a second
>WUUUT I NEVER BELIEVED MY FANS WOULD WANT ME TO RETURN TEEHEE MAYBE I'LL COME BACK THEN :)
Yeah ok whore

>>102611165
So your counter argument for her lying is the schizo voices in your head? Alright, got you.

>Missed her chance at performing to a huge audience in Niji for an empty promise
>This was after saying NUMEROUS times that her idol journey was over and she didn't want that
MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND WOMAN

>>102608713 (OP)
Minto is a desperate whore and deserve to be anally abused (by me)

>>102609604
>>102609025
She didn't decide to join vshojo until her summer podcast series with matara last year made her realize how lonely she was and made her easy prey for Gunrun and his crew.

>>102611165
That kind of self-underestimation is both infuriating and also completely believable based on how often I see it in other chuubas. "OMG I'm a high 2view/ low 3view but I totally thought "what if no one comes to my birthday stream???" uwu "

>>102609604
She did nothing more severe than a regular woman didn't do, don't overblow it.

>>102611937
>a huge audience in Niji
Nice joke.

>>102610982
unless your solid snake or a woman you have 0 chance

>>102614041
solid snake?
i'd never join the masons, sorry.

>>102613970
Yes HUGE mr. monkey.
See that huge crowd? Guess what mint will never get.
Her fate now is to leech of Phase or Kiara, all because she was sold a lie, what an absolute moron.

Mint would never post pornography of herself on www.4chan.org/b

>>102608713 (OP)
Before this I would've said Vshojo barely counts as a corpo but it turns out they were one in the way that matters most (fucking over talent)

>>102614469
A huge crowd of japanese fujos that came to watch japanese males? Yes, I see. But what audience Pomu is supposed to perform to?

>>102611028
They're still on the internet in certain places, but she was 16 when she posted them in 2008 so they're not out in the open

>>102612997
It's not only believable, it's actually common to happen to women. She worked for niji. Their go to tactic is to make the organs doubt themselves and think they're nothing without the nijibrand.

>>102609604
>she tried to go for a company every praised what a bitch

>>102611061
She said she came up with the plan when she and Matara were holed up together in Japan with covid last year. That was July 2024. She had no plans on joining Vshojo from January 2024 until then.

>>102614790
>so they're not out in the open
This is a blatant lie.
I did not time it. However... 10 seconds? A very short time.

>>102614896
Only e-whores and e-whore orbiters praised VShojo. They were the cancer killing vtubing.

>>102609604
What "fake drama with other content creators"?

>>102612997
I can definitely see most chuubas as people wrapped up in infinite layers of irony mixed with self-deprecation to the point that they don't know what they want anymore.

>>102614956
Well if you know a specific search term it's easy, but just typing "maid mint nudes" you won't get very far

>>102615098
I would answer you with a frown.
While what you said is factually correct, it does not change reality.

>she tries to join the vshojo me-too movement and it backfires

>>102615281
Point made, it might be "out there", but only if you know the name she went by on /b/ 17 years ago

>>102608713 (OP)
yep, extremely disappointed in her

>>102614956
>>102615098
>>102615281
wtf is all this cryptic bullshit

>>102611028
OP worded it in a way that made it sound recent, but like>>102614790 said they are out there and they are very ancient nudes she posted on /b/ in 2008.

Go look for them if you feel like it, she was cute and had nice tits.

>>102615475
Anon
anonanonanon
ANON
I have apparently browsed more /vt/ than you have, today.
As in, the full collection of every single photo of her naked ass posted by herself, onto /b/.

>>102615513
Anon don't actually look for it, it's legally Crystal Palace.

>>102615674
It's out of the Europa League?

>>102615513
She was 16 when the nudes were posted, and I'm not gonna be the one to lead anyone to that

>>102615846
There is a problem with chan whores pretending they are not chan whores and everybody else on a chan having a collective WTF moment abut what they are even on about.

>>102615984
Yeah obviously, what kind of retard lets their source of income know that they whored themselves out to a bunch of internet strangers

>>102610891
I wonder if this is some kind of test.
Someone that keeps trying no matter how many times they fail has got to be one of the criteria talent scouts tend to favor the most, right?

>>102616260
>what kind of retard lets their source of income know that they whored themselves out to a bunch of internet strangers
Ahem.
Pick and choose your favorite.

I love how all the pics of her dressed up have like a 60% approval rating on x3vid due to how ugly she actually is, but the nude ones immediately jump to 80 or 90% because of how great her tits are.

>>102609604
????

Mint is pretty drama free. Just making stuff up, schizo?

>>102616260
Anon, it's 2025. Whoring yourself out for internet strangers IS the source of income for a disappointingly large number of women

>>102616659
>because of how great her tits are.
Are.
Were.

You a correct, though. Mint as an awkward emo teen did have major man-face. Not her fault.

pretty funny that she so desperately wants to do idol shit but she gave up trying to get into the place that could give her all of that

>>102616907
Does the place you are referring to have a history of employing whores?

>>102616775
ye men truly are beta cucks at heart even the unicorns are the ultimate cucks

>>102616977
Unironically yes.

>>102617000
Rape is bad.

>>102617030
Why would you bring up irony in this particular case?
You are, mentally, in a bad place.

>>102616907
If you mean Hololive, then it's because she knows she's nowhere near as talented as any of them, so she chases her dreams at lesser companies that she might have an actual shot at.

>>102617315
What's holofags' consensus on Fauna's talent nowadays?

>>102608713 (OP)
a JP corpo

Why does Mint in particular make Indonesians seethe so hard?

>>102616484
It's the Mikochi test. Can you grind like Miko did.

>>102617760
Same reason they seethe over Nimi: she's white

>>102617760
Living in a third world shithole makes SEAfags seethe about everything. It's also why you always see the ones on this board projecting their cuck fetishes onto others all the time

>>102615674
don't look for it because the biggest tragedy is teh dwarf became a filthy knife-ear

>>102614955
NTA but in those 6 months she was already being pampered by Vshojo, so if she truly didn't want to join a corp she wouldn't have been taking all their support.
>>102616708
She's not drama free, she's just one of the chubbas with a fanbase that will readily defend her and write off anything she does. It's like saying Pippa is drama free just because most seething is regulated to /here/

>>102619685
>NTA but in those 6 months she was already being pampered by Vshojo, so if she truly didn't want to join a corp she wouldn't have been taking all their support.
Pampered and supported how? They didn't pay her for the podcast merch lol

>>102619685
>pampered
groomed, more like. and not in the meme way.

>>102619685
what drama has she caused?

>>102616907
Holotards really think they are idols because they do a prerecorded 3dlive once a year

>>102621109
You know some of them are fully comitted to live performances.

>>102610891
>should have keep tried
bruh

>>102621109
There's unironic 50/50 odds that a Nijisister made that post.

>>102608713 (OP)
No, just your retarded delusions

>>102616708
>Mint
>Drama free
KEK

>>102617572
Fauna is a great streamer and entertainer, she's not so good at the idol stuff though and her heart wasn't really in it obviously since she had other priorities in life which we are now aware of. -Holofag

>>102608713 (OP)
But she didn't join Vshojo though?
And she made the right choice. Corpos are losing their relevance with the recent graduations, yabs, and drama that's been happening lately.

>>102627896
What drama has she caused?

>>102619879
She's said outright
>"With the help of Vshojo I got to do this"
When she started recovering from her Niji time, notice how she stated the ONLY thing she didn't get was paid for the merch and her unit debuting, everything else they helped with was taken care of.

>>102630828
From January to July, the only support she got from Vshojo was for the podcast merch that they never paid her. The podcast itself was handled by Matara (hence why they got the Patreon money but not the merch money).

>>102629846
Sisters hate her for leaving and being with Doki

>>102629846
>"ill never join a corpo again"
>run merch through a corpo, dont get paid
>secretly join vshitshow
>run merch again, dont get paid again
>get your time wasted by imploding company, not your fault
>no one knows about your embarrassing decisions
>go live on July 22, 2025 and tell the world anyway
>make yourself the butt of a joke and fuel 1000 dramafags to farm you some more

masterful gambit

KWAB Fantome

>>102629846
Nothing really
but nijisiters and /cgl/ roasties REALLY hate her. They have running a harassments campaign on her for years.

>>102631195
>"ill never join a corpo again"
She never said that.

>>102631426
embarrassingly low quality retort to the notion that mint shot herself in the foot for nothing

>>102631592
>retort
NTA but to what? What are you even trying to proclaim? And why should anyone give a fuck?

>>102614600
You fucking coward, just complete the link or I'll burn your entire village down

>>102631678
mint inserting herself into the vshojo drama and revealing embarrassing information about herself for no real gain.
look at what this thread is retard, its a fucking bait thread because she decided to tell the world about her vshojo adventure when no one asked.

>>102632005
>inserting herself into the vshojo drama
>for no real gain
That's not how content creation works for women you dumbfuck, look at how many donos and pity comments she is getting from that video and then realize how retarded you are.

>>102632005
Nigga she was contractually signed to Vshojo for the past year. Vshojo just went up in flames. She didn't "insert herself" into the drama, she was directly affected by the drama.

>>102608713 (OP)
>wanting to be an idol in a company with Melody in it

fukin wot?

>>102632309

>>102631195
>no one knows about your embarrassing decisions
>go live on July 22, 2025 and tell the world anyway

>>102632346
if mint doesn't actually believe in idol and otaku culture
who do we even have left?
Are all women just whores?

How would one even confirm that a pair of tits on /b/ even belong to Mint?

>>102632487
Give it up sister. No one is going to fall for your doxx baiting

>>102632185
Shortsighted female thinking... this is a short term pay off.
Inviting antis to farm you and make you look like a retard drives people away and makes new viewers wary of joining your community when it's constantly being made into a laughing stock.
Very similar to the Nimi marriage situation where now the prospect of supporting Nimi means people will think you're a cuck. They may not directly call you one but that's the running gag on your community.

>>102632547
I don't want to see the photo. I'm just wondering how people figured it out.

>>102632346
that's why she wanted to do it
rather than joining an idol corp and being just another idol, she'd be the special snowflake idol in the whore corpo. it was an untapped market in vshojo that she wanted to exploit.

>>102632346
tbf the VshojoJP side (which is who she was working with) has a direct connection to a JP idol company (Dearstage), and VshojoJP had just signed their girls to a record label deal (UMG).

I'm just confused as to why Matara (or other vshojo members) didn't warn her about the payout issues they had? it seems like it was an issue since 2-3 years ago. They were even late or never paid the podcast merch. I feel terrible for her, obviously but...

>>102614459
???

You guys are ripping on and making fun off a lady who just poured her heart out and cried because her hopes and dreams had been crushed. Just thought I'd remind you all of that. Shame.

>>102633094
The same woman who posts her tits and pussy to 4chan for attention.

>>102633163
Why take joy in another human's misery though?

>>102633163
Why do you care so much about something from 15+ years ago? What are you, a woman?

>>102633094
I appreciate you saying that here, but it's falling on deaf ears I'm afraid. Those who post in threads like this are the absolute bottom of the barrel. The shittiest, most worthless beings on and off the internet. They aren't going to listen.

>>102633071
masons are snakes anon.
i'm not geting hardsolid obelisk just to get with mint, she'll need to settle for a normal man.

>>102633094
>>102633256
>>102633257
>>102633277
Don't you ever wish Mint would get a therapist so you wouldn't have to be on 24/7 Mint defense in the catalog?

>>102633256
>>102633257
These people talk and behave in a disconcertingly similar fashion.

>>102633425
If you mention Mint any time of the day her defense force shows up. You can see them seething in the general. They will say Mint has no drama but the fact that they're constantly malding and running catalog ops says otherwise. It's pretty embarrassing.

>>102633530
Brownskins laughing at her isn't drama, as much as you might want it to be.

>>102633094
>Join a corpo and start crying because your dream of being an idol shitter wasn't progressing fast enough
>Get poached so you can be an idol
>Get commanded to spread drama about your old company once you get put on the poach company's payroll
>The company that poached you imploded due to being actual criminals so your idol dream is dead

LMAOOOO. Get fucked. Karma is real

>>102633605
Yet you waste hours trying to stop them from laughing. If it didn't matter you wouldn't be here. Wouldn't it be easier if she just stopped inviting ridicule when it has no benefit to her. What if she spend that $10k she dropped on the IDF charity on some mental health services for herself? Imagine.

>>102615513
Just schizo anyone who have nothing better to do, best to just ignore them. There's no proof it's even her. Same people who say clara posted topless selfies, they just want your oshi to be a whore so badly

>>102633818
Laughing at her for shit going up in flames and for having hope is one thing, purposely spreading misinformation is another thing entirely.

>>102633530
>catalog ops
Anon, for the love of god, go outside. You're completely insane if you think this termite hunting journal is worth any kind of ops

>>102633094
And shortly after blew 10k to joke with Dokibird as a PR stunt

>>102632628
I'd love to tell you, but last time I explained something I got a 3day

>>102633027
Ultimately it's a doggy dog world, everyone for themselves. Tells you what Matara is truly about I hope

>>102632589
>now the prospect of supporting Nimi means people will think you're a cuck
You care way too much what jungle dwellers on a Bornean headhunting forum think.

>>102633963
I agree but this whole thing is self inflicted. No one knew she was involved with vshojo or about her idol group thing. The impetus was an unnecessary reveal fueled by the desire to use her community for venting, and/or wanting to 'me too' the corp.

>>102634187
>>102634091
Mhm.

>>102634187
Giving your money to a married woman unironically makes you a cuck

>>102631195
>unironic openly jaknigger post on /vt/
and they said this board didnt die after holoposters left lmao

>>102634268
>I agree but this whole thing is self inflicted. No one knew she was involved with vshojo or about her idol group thing. The impetus was an unnecessary reveal fueled by the desire to use her community for venting, and/or wanting to 'me too' the corp.
She doesn't want to fans to think she hasn't been working on things for the past year, and trying to sweep it under the rug with a simple "something things happened and everything I was doing for the past year just went up in flames, whoopsie poopsie!" would just leave fans with more questions than answers. Plus, that would just lead to shitposts about her being lazy and "just cruising", so there would still be shitposts regardless, don't you worry your little head about that!

>>102634580
This is absolute cope.
She doesn’t care if people think she was being 10% more productive behind the scenes.

It was a classic jump on the bandwagon, me too clout chasing type situation.
That’s it.

>>102634580
I believe you. I heard the wisps are very keen on holding Minto responsible for missed deadlines and scrapped projects. There was definitely a need for her to come clean otherwise daddy wisp would pull his $2 membership.

>>102634668
>She doesn’t care if people think she was being 10% more productive behind the scenes.
Yes she does. You don't know her.

>>102611028
>>102615530
CP

>>102629846
Remember when she crashed out on her alt on people following her for being mint then privated it

>>102615530
she was also by all accounts underage when she didn't choose GTFO, so keep that in mind

>>102610891
but they already had Kiara, why would they need another one?

>>102610982
Anon... she's Luca's cocksleeve for a reason...

>>102637103
>privating your rm twitter is "drama"
jesus man, listen to yourself

>>102637417
Yes. Seething about your fans "stalking you" for following your other account you post on all the time while also encouraging people to talk to you at conventions then privating it is drama, fagoon

>>102637491
Wanting to separate your vtubing activities from your irl activities isn't "drama", sister

>>102633094
she deserves it for getting scammed by a WACTOR-tier obvious scam contract
if thots like veibae could smell the bullshit and have a lawyer look at it, why couldn't Miss I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING I'M EXPERIENCED?

and why is she so fucking obsessed with getting into corps? isn't LE INDIE FREEDOM just the best? that's what her fans claimed

>>102637524
Remember when she tweeted about not sleeping well then deleted it

>>102637524
>Encourages her fans to talk to her when she goes to a convention on her alt
>Cry about fans knowing about her alt, calls them stalkers then privates it

What a smart person. Definitely mentally well adjusted. Definitely not drama

>>102637556
Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you people? You're terminally drama-brained.

>>102637572
She never called anyone stalkers lmao, do you really need to resort to making things up?

>>102637643
>She never called anyone stalkers
The final hail Mary cope from one of the stalkers

>>102637673
>"She said X!"
>>"No she didn't"
>"C-COPE!!!!"
I accept your concession :)

>>102608713 (OP)
I have no sympathy left for a woman who falls twice for the same bullshit.
Stop being so fucking retarded, Mint, for fuck's sake

>>102608713 (OP)
she's just a buttslut

>>102637103
>Privated her personal Twitter because people WOULDN'T SHUT UP about how she's Mint
Fixed that for you

>>102637717
>Pretends like nothing happened
>Point out that something did happen
>Nuh uh

I accept your concession :)

>>102637751
there's nothing wrong with that

she would fit right in with holos
now she's a bit too radioactive for any jp corpos and en is in shambles
if only she were a bit more patient. go indie, laylow for a year, then audition again
but I guess matara is too convincing

I remember when she tweeted about her car breaking down at the start of the year and stressing about it.
Now in July 2025 even $10,000 is nothing to her. How life can change.

>>102637967
After seeing how the JP fanbases reacted to Luna, Holo and Niji agreed to never hire each other's ex-talents ever again

>>102638032
>Thinks $10,000 was nothing while her employers just exploded and her idol dream went with it
It's gonna be cup ramen for the next month

>>102632707
Too bad for Mint that Vshotards spent years acting like idol shit was beneath them and that they were superior to Hololive (and I guess Niji too, for a while) because of that same reason. It's not like their behavior was a secret either, so chalk up another retard point for Mint

>>102637491
>fagoon
Oh go fuck yourself

>>102638080
yeah
I read that jp straggler with deepl yesterday
guess I can't blame her for going for niji back then though niji in should have been a warning

>>102638095
Dropping $10k after knowing Vshojo has gone belly-up just shows she doesn't have any financial problems.

>>102638289
Who said she has financial problems other than some faggot stealing her money she honestly earned?

>>102638481
>"It's gonna be cup ramen for the next month"

>>102631195
None of this is drama lol

>>102638289
No, dropping $10k at all directly after losing your job proves what we already knew. She's mentally ill and retarded

>>102638289
Moral of the story is don't give your money to these people. They have more than enough and will spend it on stupid flexes and PR games. Don't fall for their performative tears

>>102608713 (OP)
She's like a drug sniffer dog but for absolute dogshit companies.

>>102638545
Vshitshow was never her main "job", it's not like she lost the only sourse of income, just money from the merch they run together and money and time spent on this idol project, whatever it was.

>>102638680
source*

there are literally hundreds of posts like this

>>102638887
That aged well.

>>102639545
Very

>>102638887
I still can't really think of an answer why she tried to Vshojo
She's clearly got enough clout to do whatever she feels like

>>102641339
She's retarded and so is her idol group dream, she is begging to be taken advantage of.

>>102641339
VShojo have clearly been shown to massively oversell what they can do for people.

>>102608713 (OP)
shes the CM Punk of vtubing
>ex corpo shiter that pretends to be indie
>is actually a money grubbing corpo shitter that sells her image to every dime she can get
>fans are rabid and everywhere

>Justin's undercover spy to cover
how much info did she glean from kiara? imagine getting melled

>>102608713 (OP)
She lies as naturally as she breathes
and leeches.

>>102633785
Stop putting words together to make sense like that. You make minto look bad, retarded and twofaced.

>>102631195
jakposts used to be a bannable offence and get insta-deleted on this board

>>102646133
Too bad nothing they said is correct though

This thread is Phasefags mad that Mint didn't join Phase.

>>102644983
>imagine getting melled
God now THAT would be karma.

>>102644983
>so they take revenue cuts from talent to be able to pay their staff?
>idiots, why do that? we've got $500k lying around doing nothing

>>102646364
Nothing new, phaseniggers have been allies to nijisisters for months

>>102617315
The only thing she isn't as good or better than Shiori is making my dick hard.

>>102647577
Holofags that have always dwelled in numbers have been mask off for months now.

>joins NIJIEN to be an idol and do 3D idol concerts
>has a meltdown because the wings on her 3D are scuffed
>decides to quit after only 2 years because she is impatient
>never does the 3D idol concert
>goes indie
>hangs out with VShojo and gets free rigging from them
>goes on vacation with Phase Connect for a month
>they pay her well, put her up in a hotel suite, pay for food, and they are the corpo that gets her in her first 3D idol concert
>decides she wants corpo again with a group that can give her 3D idol concerts
>...doesn't want the corpo who gave her her a 3D Idol concert
>instead pitches to a company that has never produced an Idol concert because they are seemingly bigger on the surface
>convinces herself they, with their JP connections, are a sure thing and better fit to make dreams come true
>signs a bad contract
>maintains she is still indie all along
>turns out the corpo she sign up for was the actual blackest of the black
>implodes and she lost everything and got her friends hurt who she convinced to join with her
>looks like an absolute fool
>If she would have stayed NIJIEN, she would have gotten her Idol concert in a sold out arena and been an EN talent doing an idol tour
>If she would have picked the company who took care of her last year Phase, she would have been doing idol concerts all over the place like vtuber awards, offkai, anyc you name it and she would have helped elevate a place that needed her
>instead gets nothing but black screen pity
this is what happens when you act like a brat egomaniac who wants the world and wants it now and thinks she can skip the grind of the idol journey by just joining mega corpos and they will fast track her.

Now go leech off of the ex holos some more to feel better about yourself you eternal bridesmaid.

>>102608713 (OP)
It's in her name anon.

>>102608713 (OP)
she didn't say that, proof

>>102649004

>>102648873
timeline is wrong, she was already in vshojo when phase pampered her

also as someone who came to vtubing from the actual jpop idol fandom, lol @ "the grind of the idol journey"

Mint don't you ever forget that Phase Connect was the agency that first made your 3D idol concert dream come true.

>>102648873
fuck off chink

>>102648873
NIJI and Phase chads unite over Mint snubbing them. Love to see it.

>>102608713 (OP)
NIMI DEFLECTION THREAD!

>>102649337
No way a post made with the intention to shit on her twists facts and gets things wrong, I'm actually shocked

>>102649337
>leads phase connect on thinking she is interested, when she is already signed to a corpo
>sakana even shows up in her chat all the time dropping akasupas, likely thinking they had a chance
you are making it worse

>>102649004
IS REAL?

>>102631195
If you actually typed this out I genuinely feel sorry for you.

>>102649004
>>102649945
Fake and gay

>>102648873
KWALB
KEK What a lying bitch

>>102610891
It's obvious that she has the personality type that if she fails once she doesn't try again, and if she does it's half assed.

Bitch can't live without company, this girl will find a new one soon

>>102631097
NTA but they literally helped set up her site for her, they introduced her to JP people and helped her get 3D.
They were constantly helping her behind the scenes which is why up until the very end she thought she'd be a part of them.

>>102611225
Please be real for a second. While she was "doing school" she unlocked her mint Twitter account, unprivated some of her videos on YouTube and privated any that featured people who were no longer Indies.
Her "miraculous comeback" was about as surprising as water making you wet.

I will truly never understand the phase connect seethe about Mint, acting like some scorned exes with some massive history or something.

1: Neither Mint/Sakana/any phase connect has ever even hinted at Mint getting invited into Phase connect

2: The specific thing she wanted out of Vshojo, an idol group with cooperation with JP idols she is already a fan of, seems so far outside of the norm for phase connect that even IF she was pursued, it seems like a bad fit.

3: It is very clear that Mint has basically zero overlap in fans with phase connect, her only connection is that she is friends with Lia, before or after the concert. Every Mint thread there are 50 phasefags talking about what a talentless whore she is. So even if she joined she would still only be watched by mintfags and nothing would change for phasefags.

The only time Mint has ever mentioned phase connect is talking about liking Lia and how she enjoyed the concert, but phasefags are acting like she has spent the last year shitting Pippa and Sakana

Atleast the nijiseethe I can understand

>>102637090
americans when someone is 17.999999 years old

>>102653438
If you check the comment trail, the discussion is about the support they gave her from Jan-July 2024, IE the time before she signed with them. The only support they gave her from Jan-July 2024 was podcast merch that they never paid her for.

>>102654152
She tried to poach Lia.

>>102654152
>The specific thing she wanted out of Vshojo, an idol group with cooperation with JP idols she is already a fan of
mint needs to understand that this is not burger king and she can't have it her way. you have to compromise most times.
she doesn't want compromises, so she got scammed because she convinced herself that vshojo was real and true/

>>102654237
But that isn't true. You can literally find two different instances where they helped her with conventions and an instance where they helped her meet some big name JP's. I can't even remember who they were at this point but she literally said that it wouldn't be possible without them.
And they also did help set up the more recent website because when it first launched, it directed to their PayPal. Then when people found out, it was quickly changed to direct to mints PayPal. So that's a lie

>>102654317
The only convention invite you could argue was connected to Vshojo was Offkai last year, but that was as Matara's guest.
And meeting the big-name JPs? Are you referring to AX? That was all her.
The merch website was earlier this year, after she had signed with them.

>>102654440
I think he is talking about how Mint and Matar visted some idol thing or maid cafe in the summer of last year. I seem to remember vsj made that happen.

>>102654440
There were two conventions. One of which she wasn't even originally invited to but they loaned her their robot to do a convention with. And no I'm not referring to AX. It was while she was in Japan, she mentioned that she had the opportunity of a lifetime to meet somebody, I can't remember you'll have to look on her Twitter. But it was all thanks to Vshojos JP branch that she got to meet them. They organized the whole thing.

>>102654440
Offkai 2024's website lists her as one of their (Offkai's) official guests, so it had nothing to do with Matara either.

>>102616484
Nah, some got accepted first try.
It just depends on how the other applicants look, as they have probably thousands to choose from.

>>102654152
There is no phase connect seethe, it's just the same group of people that's going around threads to shit on her from every possibile angle with the same recicled arguments. But you're not ready for this conversation yet.

>>102654525
Vshojo loaned their robot to her and had her participate in the maid cafe collab and she played it up like
>Tee hee I have no clue why they did that it was so random!
But it was likely that she signed on to be a Vshojo talent by the time the convention took place

>Vshojo did Mint's rigging when she came back
>Vshojo had Mint as a podcast host for 3 months, using their editors and resources
>Vshojo had Mint working under their banner for OffKai
>Mint said she signed with Vshojo over a year ago
what are we even talking about here?

>>102654504
That was after she had alright signed.
>>102654512
>One of which she wasn't even originally invited to but they loaned her their robot to do a convention with.
You're thinking about Offkai from last year, where she was officially invited as an offkai guest.
>It was while she was in Japan, she mentioned that she had the opportunity of a lifetime to meet somebody, I can't remember you'll have to look on her Twitter. But it was all thanks to Vshojos JP branch that she got to meet them. They organized the whole thing.
Yes, the director of Dearstage. But that was after she signed with them.

>vshojoJP barely exists, it has no audience or market share in Japan. Almost all Japanese people who know about Kson don't associate her with vshojo, and those who know Nazuna still recognize her as Rushia. Henya's fanbase is mostly overseas.
>She fell for their funny offer about "connecting with JP to become an idol" kek.
Realistically, joining the main vshojo branch would be no different from joining vshojoJP, they have no relevance in Japan.

>>102654310
That is ironic.
She had it bad with Niji and after that she wants to avoid having the bad things again.
She went to Vshojo hoping to avoid the bad things, and in turn she got the bad things again.
There are no shortcuts Mint. Hope she learns that.

when holofags beg: Awww you're so sweet
when phasefags beg: Hello human resources

Why is /vt/ like this

>>102654623
>Vshojo did Mint's rigging when she came back
No, Matara paid for it, not Vshojo.
>Vshojo had Mint as a podcast host for 3 months, using their editors and resources
Vshojo did the work for Matara because Matara was part of Vshojo.
>Vshojo had Mint working under their banner for OffKai
Yeah you are correct with this one, she was a guest at Vshojo's sponsored cafe at Offkai last year.
>Mint said she signed with Vshojo over a year ago
The original discussion was about the support they gave her from the time she was graduating Niji (Jan 2024) to the time she signed with them (July 2024). During that time, the only support they gave to Mint (NOT TO MATARA) was the podcast merch they didn't pay her for, and being a guest in their Offkai maid cafe.

>>102654624
No. I'm not thinking about offkai. There was literally some convention that she wasn't even on the register for but they loaned her their robot for. Im also confused you talk about them not doing anything for her but you also acknowledge that they were responsible for dearstage.

>>102654623
The entire reason I talk about it is because for some odd reason this entire board seems to think that they did absolutely nothing for her and that she was some poor helpless talent who got nothing out of it. Despite the fact that literally her entire Indie career has been a result of them.

>>102654649
phasefags feel jilted because they actually gave her the things she wanted and treated her like their own, and meanwhile she was leading them along and under contract with vshojo all along.
she even said some shit last year of "my time with phase was so great. they took good care of me it's nice to be a guest of a corpo who takes care of people. they never even fed us in nijisanji, but with phase they will go get you you any food free of charge"

>>102654729
There's a good chance that Matara didn't actually pay for it and that Vshojo did. She was already signed with them by the time 3.0 came out. She just hid it.

>>102654766
Dearstage was after she had signed with them. This whole comment trail was about the help they were giving her before she signed with them.

>>102608713 (OP)
I prayed for this and it happened

>>102654860
But she signed with them in June. The common trail says that from January to July she got absolutely nothing. But she was already a member in June.

>>102654799
And now Mint is associated with Phase as an honorary member or future member, and she can't do anything else because Vshojo fucking collapsed. Good luck being in Phase KEK

>>102654947
Mint has not done anything with Phase since she took their money fwiw. Not even a simple game collab.

>>102654289
Proof?

>>102654945
She didn't sign with them in June. The idea for the idol gen came to her when she and Matara were sick with covid, which was in June. Sometime in July is when she signed.

>>102655062
blame lia for not being a collab hound. she could be hounding mint with collabs and trying to move up the social mountain with mint, but she doesn't seem to care about that she would rather just be friends off stream. same thing with neuro lia could have been in vedal inner circle she was an early neuro collab partner a couple times, but said nah and was content just doing her own thing.

>>102655062
Does it stop the Phasefags from associating her with them? I think not

>>102655062
She completely abandoned almost everybody who wasn't either in vshojo or an orbiter with the exception of Doki.
Lia, Indies, etc. kinda sad really

>>102655159
https://x.com/rinkouashelia/status/1947589463758278769
She knew VShojo was about to go the way of the dodo.

>>102654645
And now her time and her option for an idol group is limited.
If she wants a corpo, she has to accept that she can't have everything she wants.

>>102655245
>with the exception of Doki.
And Laimu, and Snuffy, and some big JP amogus collab, and Coyo, and Grimmi, and Bao, and etc etc

>>102655245
It's not sad. People sometimes are put into your life when they are needed in that moment in time, and you don't know why. When Mint came back, she was genuine when she said she didn't know if she had a place anymore because the scene outside of NIJI was so different. But people like Matara (especially Mata), Giri, Lia, Mariya were the early vtubers who reached out to her in that first month back to get her involved with the scene again.

Those people mean something to Mint, and she included them in the video game she made for her debut in October as a tribute to them for being there as friends when she came back post Niji.

>>102655429
>Laimu and Snuffy
>Not vshojo orbiters
Kek

>>102655429
Not to mention the Glitch Stars girls she hangs out with when she goes to cons, Kiara, ex-Holos, etc.

>>102655475
She didn't actually do anything with the game. The people included were entirely done so at the artists behest, not hers.
The only person who was picked by her to be included was the one person she chose from Twitter.

>>102655608
Anon it wasn't just artwork, she worked with all the vtubers to get specially-recorded voice lines for their characters in the game.

>>102655245
Even before all this shit went down I was thinking she hasn't really interacted with Matara at all recently. Granted I don't go looking for it but it feels like they were conjoined at the hip for a while

>>102655249
That doesn't prove she was being poached

>>102655429
Literally half of those people are vshojo orbiters. Bao was one of the first vshojo orbiters, snuffy applied several times to be in vshojo and laimu was an orbiter forever too.
IDK much about cayo but her only stream with cayo was a graduation one. And grimmi also literally auditioned to be in vshojo

>>102655608
nah, she worked on it and they mean something to her. She asked the girls to record lines for it. The first vtubers besides herself you see on her redebut stream last year: Mariya and Lia. That is not an accident. Those are a couple of the girls who reached out to her when she first came back and tried to get her involved in things at a time when she was unsure.

>>102655819
>And grimmi also literally auditioned to be in vshojo
wasn't that holo?

>>102655867
Mint traded Mariya and Lia for Nimi and Dooby. So sorry.

>>102655819
If any interaction with Vshojo means they are an orbiter, then the list of non-orbiters would be really small, because practically all indies and small corpos have interacted with Vshojo at some point.

>>102633027
The ones who had an issue with it 2-3 years ago were kicked out. Everyone who stayed wasn't getting stiffed until recently. And none of them wanted to say anything because they thought that if they did they wouldn't get paid a little bit of what they were owed.

>>102655904
There were also theories that it was Nijisanji, and she backed out when the Selen Shock happened.
In truth, no one knows where it actually was, but it's very likely that, whatever it was, she backed out because at the time she was still part of MSM, and Seth, the owner, threatened her into backing out.

>>102656017
She was in Mariya's concert earlier this month, retard

>>102655904
She auditioned to both
https://x.com/GrimmiVT/status/1810857050592923739

>>102656127
That sounds more like a joke than a serious application

>>102656270
The chances of her not auditioning are pretty slim
>>102656025
Not just any interactions but frequent ones are what I consider. Bao and melody literally had a whole podcast together and Snuffy was considered a + for forever and applied multiple times.
Laimu was so close to vshojo that their clippers were clipping her and she was frequently someone that people thought was gonna be in because of how close she was to the talents.
You can argue that grimmi wasn't as close as the others but I'm struggling to even remember the last time those two collabed.

If it's not Doki, vshojo/orbiters or Hololive, she pretty much ignores them.

>>102633027
Did you catch the part of Mint's video where she talked about how she was upset people knew they were letting all the new hires "walk into a burning building"? Realistically this was intended to be pointed solely at Gunrun but could just as easily be a jab at any number of people in the know

>>102657259
and yet Mint was gonna let girls walk into that building with her.

>>102657045
>You can argue that grimmi wasn't as close as the others but I'm struggling to even remember the last time those two collabed.
Offkai. Mint also hung at with GlitchStars at Offkai and AWA. She also collabed with Marikyun (an artist vtuber), joined birthday call-ins for a couple of idolES girls, Rebbi's (ex-pixel) birthday, and more that slip my mind right now.

>>102657372
>she hung out with people at a con where you are supposed to hang out with industry people
wow amazing

>>102657372
So not for a while and not on stream or her own channel. Weird how she's so willing to stream her pov when shes with Holos, ex Holos, Vshojos and orbiters but smaller creators aren't afforded the luxury of collabing with her lately. Almost like.... she's some kind numberfag

>>102657361
Was she supposed to just know?

>>102657361
At the time, she didn't know how bad it was. From her perspective, work was still getting done (merch was getting made and shipped, idol gen plans were moving along, 3D stuff was getting recorded, etc). The only issue she saw was a delay in a merch payment.

>>102657611
It depends really. When DID Mint know this shit was not gonna happen?
Was it when the first deposit was missed?
Was it when Matara left?
Was it when Zen left?
Was it when Ironmouse left?
Did she think this time last week that her little vanity idol group was gonna happen?

>>102657611
>didn't get paid or debut for a year
lol

>>102657680
100% when Matara left that should have been the point Mint bailed regardless of whatever projects she was working on with vshojo. Matara knew she was out in February, so Mint could have left then without anybody even knowing she was in and not wasting the next 6 months on projects for nothing

>>102657597
>telling her fans to watch a small creator
>"she's being a numberfag"
You're getting way too lost in the sauce now.

>>102657812
b-but she wanted to be an idol

>>102657680
>Was it when Matara left?
>>102657812
>100% when Matara left
The hag got fired you retards. Because just like everyone else instead of actually talking to anyone about not getting paid she instead decided to scam the scammer who was out of money.

>>102657879
matara set up her own merch situation BECAUSE she wasnt getting paid her merch money by vshojo

>>102657833
She doesn't really advertise these things or give the creators any sort of shout-out on her own channel. Literally one of the things you mentioned was like
>>102657477 said
You're including her "collabing" as hanging out with industry people at a convention full of industry people. 90% of her collabs lately are big names. She literally hasn't streamed with any of the small people who were the first to welcome her back. She's a numberfag

>>102657932
According to Shylily's contract discussion, Vshojo contracts state that they are supposed to receive a cut of merch profits even from outside merch providers. Matara didn't want to pay them that cut, so she got fired.

>>102657879
if my best friend who was the main reason i joined vshojo is gone before i even debut, i am leaving. simple as.
mint is a fool.

>Corpo women masking themselves as individuals.
>No one batting an eyelid about this.
They basically lied to you lol

Mint takes what she wants from her smaller friends, and then tells you she's not.

>>102657958
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1947733659861324118
>I'll be here in 1 hour!
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1925545999361081548
>I'll be here in 30 minutes!
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1902038478071746936
>I'll be here in 1 hour!
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1788704657130279267
>I'll be here in a few minutes!

>>102629846
A lot of male collabs including offcollabs, also lusting for Luca

>>102658004
Yes she is a compete retard starting with her leaving the corpo that was her 1 real chance at her shitty idol dream as +30 year old.

>>102655493
when was the last time you watched any of them? Only orbiter was Snuffy and that was when Vei and Nyan were still around, she doesn't even talk to them anymore, it's been years

Mint just needs to accept her idol ceiling as an indie is the shitty OshiSpark concerts that look awful

>>102658506
You mean the corpo that wouldn't let her use Home3D, restricted her on outfit customization, denied her record deal, hid sponsorship opportunities from her?

>>102658498
That shit is mandatory in Manjisanji, what the fuck was she supposed to do?

>>102658755
If you are just gonna repeat retarded rrats like a bot then I suggest you donate more money to her instead to push up ironmouses ass.

>>102658368
None of it is on her channel and is poorly advertised at best
She actively avoids promoting smaller vtubers and has for literal months. Go ahead and link me the last time she had one on her channel to try to expose them to more people

>>102658984
>rrats

>>102659041
Don't throw out your back

>>102659041
Telling her fans to go watch these smaller vtubers does more to promote them than simply having them on her channel as a collab partner.

>>102658606
Snuffy applied several times, bao was literally part of a podcast with vshojo members, laimu was frequently mentioned by vshojo members and thought to be in several times. Grimmi is literally the only exception and mints "collab" with her was a single incident at a con.
But if you want, I will retract the statement that they're orbiters. Instead it will just say that if you're not a big vtuber, she does not host you on her channel she does not advertise you to her subscribers and does not frequently collab with you if at all.
>>102659090
It's not really moving a goal post if that's what I've said from the very beginning. She's a number fag, she doesn't actively try to promote smaller content creators and the ones who were quick to welcome her back are now forgotten because she's too busy chasing big Indies and Holos.

>>102659131
Except it really doesn't.
A single tweet does not really promote these people better than actually introducing your followers and subscribers to them. If you don't have notifications on for her, or if Twitter decides to Shadowban her or anything else, You will have no idea that she's even a part of these streams because she doesn't advertise that she is.
If she really was interested in promoting these things, what she would do is hold a stream that her fans could join and then raid into them. But she doesn't do that because she's not interested in doing that

>>102659221
>try to promote smaller content creators
>Camilla
>a small indie
Retard.
>Coyo
She graduated and her reincarnation still hasn't been found.
>Lia
She barely collabbed with ANYONE in the past year.

>>102608713 (OP)
I can be mad at her because I've already seen her body in all its glory. More vtubers should do this when they fuck up desu, it would placate the fans much better than some empty apologies

>>102659041
>can't market herself
>"But why isn't she marketing everyone else!!?"

>>102659300
>hold a stream that her fans could join and then raid into them
With the exception of Lia, all the aforementioned guest appearances were on Twitch, and Mint doesn't use Twitch, you mongoloid.

>>102659385
>can't*
Fuck

>>102659300
She puts them on her weekly schedule that she posts on Youtube, and tweets about them on twitter. Making her viewers actually go to the smaller creator's channel does more to boost them (gives them a boost in algo, allows people to directly hit subscribe, their other content will appear right alongside the the stream, etc) does more than simply having them on her channel.

>>102659375
Cool, now let's take a look at some of the smaller Indies, before she decided they were unworthy
>https://youtube.com/@isla_coleman
Still active
>https://youtube.com/@hiiragiemuri
Still active
>https://youtube.com/@nakikamizuki
Still active.

Weird how these people are no longer welcome on her stream, but sure is cool that they can maybe occasionally get a shout out on Twitter and.....uhhhh.... Maybe do something with her at a convention where it's not really promoted by her. Ya got me there, she's totally not a numberfag. That's why she frequently collabs with small Indies and has them on her channel, right?

What small indies is Mint collabing with this week, anon?

>>102659300
>what she would do is hold a stream that her fans could join and then raid into them
You're grasping at straws here. Literally nobody else does that. Why are you expecting her to do something nobody else does?

>>102659416
Yeah. Sure does suck when you have to do things for yourself, guess that she wasn't planning on doing that when she decided to only be an indie for about 2 months.
Sure is cool to ride on the coat tails of everyone else but not offer a single thing back to those who welcomed you with open arms.
But I guess Hololive collabs are far more important than people who considered her to be a friend

>>102659796
She hasn't done proper collabs with any of these girls. And what the fuck do you mean by "not welcome"? She hasn't banned them from her chat, hasn't she? What you need to realize is that these women are shy as fuck and rarely, if ever, make the first move.

>>102659796
>she hasn't collabed with these 3 in a while
>WHICH MEANS SHE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR ANY OTHER SMALLER VTUBERS (IGNORE THE ONES WHERE SHE DID, THEY DON'T COUNT)

>>102659841
Nobody will answer this because they dont want to admit that if you're under 4views she won't collab with you.
The "small" Indies this week are
>Nimi
>Dooby
>Doki

>>102660028
weird that mint isn't shy and has no qualms clout chasing the ex holos

>>102659923
>people who considered her to be a friend
Oh, so you're a fucking /lazu/nigger. Get bent. I know EXACTLY who you're seething about that she "abandoned".

>>102660028
https://www.youtube.com/live/-0D19LcGGC8
>she hasn't done proper collabs with any of these
>>102660062
Link me to the last time that she had a small Indie on her stream. Do it.
And once you're done with that, link me to the last time that she collabed with anybody who was a big vtuber, like an ex Holo or one of the sloppy sisters.
I'll wait

>>102652668
I may trigger some wisps here but this literally sounds like Sayu so why don't they get together and form their own agency

>>102659923
>Sure is cool to ride on the coat tails of everyone else but not offer a single thing back to those who welcomed you with open arms.
She collabed with them, on her channel even (which you're arguing is better to support them), what more are you expecting?

>>102660126
Because they (or Doki) are the ones inviting her, not the other way around.

So that thing about mint convincing fauna to graduate just because she wanted her little idol group was a rrat right? I hate to think she was fooled like that

>>102654649
/Vt/ having double standards is nothing new

>>102659796
>Mint is supposed to be doing the work of an agency!
Retard

>>102660134
Okay, fine, i've forgotten that one, but what you've done is disproven your own point. Or unless it was a week ago, a month or three ago, or whatever arbitrarily time you're setting up, "it doesn't count"?

>>102660172
She hasn't. Not for over a full year.
Like I said, feel free to Link me to the last stream on her channel that she did with any small indie, or any smaller content creator in general. Go ahead and count them, then go ahead and count how many streams she's done with everybody who's bigger than her or of equal size. And the whole
>b-but she's SHY
Doesn't work because like >>102660126 said, she sure doesn't seem shy about hanging out with all these big creators

Who is Mint supposed to be collabing with?

>>102660134
>"none of her collabs with smaller creators count if her latest collab was with someone bigger"
And so the goalposts more again

>>102660304
>doesn't seem
>SEEM
Key word right there. You're talking out of your ass.

>>102660297
How is it disproving anything? The fact is that she used to collab with smaller people. She doesn't anymore. If you're lucky she'll tweet that she's in somebody else's stream.
Take a look at how often she collabs with smaller people then take a look at how often she collaba with bigger people. If they aren't 4views, she doesn't give them the time of day

>>102660126
This was really fucked up
>mmmyes I will start collabing with the ex-holos who literally never gave me the time of day before they needed fake indie advice

>>102660363
Link me her last goddamn stream that she collabed with anybody who was smaller than her and hosted it on her channel, Come on do it.
What I've said from the very beginning, is that she's a number fag who does not collab with smaller people on her channel.

>>102649813
>mint exists and says that she will not join phase connect
>retarded phasecuck thinks this means she was joining phase connect

>>102660368
For somebody who is shy, she sure does collab A LOT with them in comparison to anybody smaller.
That shyness must wear off when you get to see the numbers

>>102660391
>>102660453
You've linked it yourself, dipshit. And the arbitrarily time frame you've established is literally irrelevant.

>>102660453
Why does it need to be on her channel? Having the collabs on the smaller creator's channel does more to boost them.

>>102660559
Occam's razor. She's not doing this out of the kindness of her heart but to project a charitable image

trying to deny that mint isn't a number hunter is dishonest. it is business it is not a crime or wrong for her to do that.

>>102660510
>the numbers
Are literally within the same margin as her regular solo streams.

>>102660304
>she sure doesn't seem shy about hanging out with all these big creators
Hold up, I thought you said hanging out didn't count? Now it suddenly does? LMAO

>>102660554
So you're saying that the last time that she actually hosted anybody on her channel was over a full year ago before she started leeching off of Holos, ex Holos and big Indies who completely took the role of the smaller Indies that actually were there for her when she needed them?
Whack, that sure doesn't sound like a numberfag, how could I have been so wrong?

>>102660626
That's not what Occam's Razor is, you colossal retard

Laimu and Snuffy are literally smaller than her, yet she collabs with them often. You're being retarded.
>b-but muh vshojo orbiters!
So they don't count if they're smaller but orbit vshojo?
What's next, are you gonna say her collab with Marikyun doesn't count because she did art for some big vtuber once upon a time?

>>102660690
>leeching
Took a bit longer than usual for the mask to fall off, but it eventually did.

>>102660559
Not really. Not when you don't really know when she's going to be on these and your only indication is either a schedule or a tweet.
If you host or frequently appear with other people, the fans of each channel are more likely to subscribe to other channels.
There's a reason why twitch Vtubers do this all the time and there's a reason why she always streams her POV whenever there is somebody who is bigger or of equal measure to her.

Well, she isn't gonna have a corpo join anymore. So she now has to keep up appearances with the ex-holos and hope they form a group and she gets invited to be in the crummy oshi spark 3d concerts.

>>102660675
The difference is that she hangs out with these people on stream. With her POV ALWAYS streamed. Whereas with the smaller creators, it is at conventions where there is nothing on her channel to reflect that and you're lucky if it's streamed at all.

>>102660825

>>102660789
You must have over 1000 viewers to be on Mints channel.

>>102660816
>Not really. Not when you don't really know when she's going to be on these and your only indication is either a schedule or a tweet.
Except that's what all other vtubers do.
>sh-she should create a waiting room and then raid the smaller creator!
Nigga nobody else does that. Why are you requiring her to do something literally nobody else does? Sit your ass down.

>>102658984
Rrats stop being rrats once confirmed, sis...

>>102660789
Laimu and Snuffy are hardly smaller than she is they're about equal. Laimu has an average of 2700 and Snuffy just below 2k.
Several of mints streams average out around 3kish, 4k sometimes. But still they're well within her range because they're above 4view

>>102660953
>they're smaller than her
>"NOT SMALL ENOUGH!"
Keep on moving the goalposts there, bub

>>102661103
Twice as many viewers is not "hardly smaller", because in that case, she is "hardly smaller" than the "big" vtubers you're saying she's "leeching" from.

Mint likes collabing with small market girls when they can get her into 3D concerts.

>>102660959
Not really. Again there's a reason why she streams her POV each time that there is a collab with anybody who is within range or bigger than her.
Because she hopes to benefit from getting some of the audience that these people have. There's a reason why smaller Vtubers almost always have their POV when they're streaming with somebody who is bigger or equal to them and not just relying upon a scheduled tweet or post to tell people that they're in a collab.
Even if she doesn't do the second part, where she raids them, The least she could do is expose smaller Indies to her audience by streaming her POV and letting them be exposed to her fans and followers in case any of them want to join that fan base. But she doesn't do that, and she doesn't do that for a reason.

>>102661190
headshot

>>102661186
She still hopes for an audience crossover with them. Because they do have a sizable audience unlike a 2-3view. She aims to get some of their audience to follow her. Which is why she always streams her POV.
Even if she is kinda bigger, those two both have audiences that have been around longer and are more seasoned Indies with at least some connections.

>>102661202
>Because she hopes to benefit from getting some of the audience that these people have. There's a reason why smaller Vtubers almost always have their POV when they're streaming with somebody who is bigger or equal to them and not just relying upon a scheduled tweet or post to tell people that they're in a collab.
Isn't that what they do when they collab with Mint? They stream their POV in hopes they can get some of her audience? Why are you shitting on Mint for doing it but say it's totally OK when smaller ones do it to Mint?

>>102660953
Damn look at all these huge streamers.
Not to mention the countless times girls like maria, ashton, or beri have shown up randomly.

>>102661190
they have no response to this one.

>>102661190
What 3D concert is Snuffy getting her into? Laimu? Marikyun?

>>102661202
>Because she hopes to benefit from getting some of the audience that these people have
And clearly it isn't working, because her streams all have the same margin of 3-5k. So why hasn't she stopped? It's clearly hopeless, a lost cause.
>expose smaller Indies to her audience by streaming her POV
As if that's the only way to grant exposure. Fucking retard.

>>102661437
>4views are small market
lmao

>>102661202
Streaming her POV pulls her fans away from watching on the smaller creator's channel directly. Having her fans watch on the smaller creator's channel gives them an algo boost, allows people to subscribe directly, allows them to see the smaller creator's other videos in the sidebar next to the stream, gives them the views and ad revenue, etc.

>>102661351
Sure. Everybody benefits from sharing an audience. But the problem is that mint doesn't want to share the audience, which is why she never streams her POV and never introduces her audience into other people's audiences. Because she doesn't want to share that audience with somebody smaller, somebody that she doesn't benefit from. Even when you tweet and post on your schedule that you're going to be in somebody else's stream, There are only maybe a thousand or so people who actually pay attention to that and actually join that person's stream. It's been shown time and time again that the majority of her audience will not show up to that person's stream. So she doesn't really have to worry about that
Now, what is also been shown is that usually when you do collabs where all of you guys have POVs, there tends to be a little bit of audience sharing that is done. Which is again, why she does actually stream her POV then. Because she stands to benefit from it

>>102661470
They're smaller than her, so yes they are small market.

>>102661325
>for an audience crossover with them
Laimu and Snuffy are on fucking Twitch, you bloody idiot. Mint doesn't use Twitch at all. In fact, she has expressed her general distate for the platform several times.
>that have been around longer and are more seasoned Indies with at least some connections
More goalpost shifting, jesus fuck.

>>102661527
Streaming her POV pulls her audience away from watching the smaller streamer, retard.

>>102661514
Except it really doesn't. Only a fraction of her audience will ever actually go to these streams that she's on and only a fraction will be knowledgeable about who this person even is because, she doesn't actually really advertise them. If she were to stream her POV on even some of these collabs, her audience would then be exposed to somebody else.

>>102661573
Most people who have a twitch account also have a YouTube account. It isn't rocket science. People see her on their channel, and people tend to think
>Oh maybe I'll check her out
And they subscribe and put on notifications for her. This is how all collabs work. You all benefit regardless of the platform from streaming a POV. Because it increases the likelihood of an audience being shared.
But, when you don't stream your POV, a good chunk of your audience will not even know that you're on somebody else's channel and they won't follow them.

>>102661563
no i dont think so.
she uses small corpos like mariya and leah to get idol concerts. that is clear. she is a user that is fine but to pretend like she has not used them is dishonest

>>102661691
She puts those collabs on her schedule and tweets out the smaller creator's waiting room/channel. How is that not advertising?
And again, streaming her own POV would mean her audience is not going to go to the smaller creator's channel and see their other streams. They're just going to see it as yet another cute collab. Having the collab on the smaller creator's channel FORCES her viewers to see the other creator's videos.

>>102661691
>Only a fraction of her audience will ever actually go to these streams that she's on
Surely you have proof of this claim?
>her fanbase would have no prior knowledge of who this person even is
And why should that matter? That's exactly how you advertise something.

>>102661629
I keep repeating this but it doesn't. Chances are the smaller streamers audience isn't going to go to a bigger streamer, if they wanted to watch a bigger string where they already would. It's not like people who have 4 to 5,000 people on average watching, are unheard of. What's more likely to happen is that some of your audience might be willing to watch and support the smaller creators

>>102661865
Small corpos like Mariya and Lia use her to get more ticket sales.

>>102661865
>leah
If you're supposedly "fighting in her honor" to "defend her from the evil leech", you could at least spell her name correctly, falseflaggot.

>>102661865
This and I have the same view generally for anyone who's at least a 4view

>>102661895
Yes. ive literally gone to some of the streams she's shouted out and they don't get 4-5k people watching. They're lucky if 1k people even show up.
You're right, I shouldn't say prior knowledge. I should say any knowledge of who this person even is or was or even that they existed. The majority of her fans were not know that these people that she does not stream a POV for exist And she would like to keep it that way..

>>102662045
Would, not were* sorry. Lost my train of thought

>>102661765
>a good chunk of your audience will not even know
This "good chunk" that you're speaking of doesn't consider her an oshi, doesn't watch her on the regular in favor of someone else, doesn't use Twitter, etc. The regulars will know and will tune in.

>>102661940
neither show sold well, so mint didnt live up to her end of the bargin

>>102661919
>Chances are the smaller streamers audience isn't going to go to a bigger streamer
Re-read my post, I said her streaming her POV will pull HER (Mint's) viewers away from watching the smaller streamer. If she doesn't stream her POV, then her (Mint's) viewers will watch the smaller streamer's POV, which gives them the boost and advertisement.

>>102662138
Mariya's show sold out, and Lia's show wouldn't have sold as well if she wasn't there.

>>102662132
That good chunk, is the same chunk that shows up to almost all of her streams.
The thing is, unless you have Twitter notifications on for her or are really good at remembering times, there is no real indication that she's going to be on anybody's stream. If you don't know the person that she's going to be on stream with, then you have no reason to check it out.
On the other hand, if she shows her POV, like she does with everybody who is bigger or of equal size, they stand to benefit because her audience might go check them out.

>>102662221
>sold out
lmao
LMAO

>>102662300
https://x.com/FRproductions/status/1940992117062648046

>>102661940
phase mint nyc sold very well for tickets being $120+ cause you needed a ticket + a con pass, only on sale 10 days before the con and being on a sunday head to head with breaking dimensions in the same city

>>102662163
It might in a short-term pull them away but it would give them long-term exposure to somebody. Somebody a lot more likely to be followed and watched regularly by them.
The short-term fans, not only are a small base in comparison to her larger base, but they are temporary at best and often do not stay the second that she leaves that stream.

Exposing her fan base to.somebody who is smaller Would be more likely to benefit the smaller streamer. But she does not want to benefit smaller streamers, she's a big dog now and big dogs can't interact with the small dogs!

>>102662243
>they stand to benefit
When it's done this way? No, they fucking don't. Did you forget algorithms are a thing? This was already said before.
>If you don't know the person that she's going to be on stream with, then you have no reason to check it out
The reason to check it out is Mint giving them spotlight, you fucking idiot. Do you fucking expect wisps to oshihen to her newest collab partners everytime she does a collab or something? It's expected that wisps would prioritize Mint.

>>102662350
the pictures of the actual event say otherwise. there were empty sections

>>102662376
Directing her fans to watch the smaller streamer is literally benefiting the smaller streamer. I have no clue why you're trying to argue otherwise, unless you're just wanting to shitpost.

>>102662506
Mint isn't giving them the spotlight though, she's in fact hiding the spotlight by only allowing people who are following her very closely to know that she's on this person's channel or stream. There's a reason why she does not hide her POV whenever she's with somebody bigger or equal size. I keep repeating this, and you would think that you would get it through your head. But the reason why she doesn't stream her POV is because she doesn't want her audience following this person, she wants the bare minimum to actually know that this person exists because benefiting anybody who is smaller than her is outrageous

>>102662520
Doesn't look empty to me

>>102662587
Not really though. Because only a handful of these fans will actually watch her if she's elsewhere. A larger chunk would be more likely to check out and follow the collab partners she's with which is why, once again she always makes sure that she has her POV being streamed whenever there are bigger people or equals.
A small base might show up to that person's stream, but because the majority of her followers on YouTube aren't going to be paying attention to her Twitter, they aren't going to appear on somebody else's channel to watch her. But they are more likely to subscribe to somebody's channel after the collab is over and even check that person out if mint isn't streaming

>>102662638
must be all of 400 people there tiny venue

>>102662604
If she doesn't want her audience to following smaller streamers, then wouldn't she simply just... not collab with them in the first place?

>>102662604
>by only allowing people who are following her very closely
And that's still a lot of people. What, do you think it's like 30 guys or something? Even your ass-pulled "1k" (when in reality it's more than that) is more than enough for the algorithms, both on Twitch and on YouTube.
>because benefiting anybody who is smaller than her is outrageous
You're ascribing malice when there is none. Suck my dick.

>>102662751
For the most part she doesn't. For the most part the interactions that she has with smaller people are a call-in here, maybe a game for a birthday, or if they're graduating she might show up. For the most part though, she avoids anybody who's small.

>>102662695
If putting the collabs on a schedule and tweeting about them isn't enough to make people check out the smaller streamer, then streaming her POV of their collab isn't going to either.

>>102662221
Phase Offkai had as many people for that concert as they did for ANYC with Mint

>>102662763
I'm ascribing number fagotry where there is some.
And no. It's not more than that I've been there. If you want the truth, a big influx of people showing up for an extremely small amount of time and then leaving all at once is probably worse for the algorithm because they might think your channel is botted.

>>102662797
Except for, of course, the smaller ones she does collab with, but you say don't count because "muh no POV".

>>102662852
Phase Offkai is a vtuber-specific convention and their concert was free.
ANYC is a general anime convention and their concert was ticketed. Mint being in the concert helped sell more tickets, which is money for Phase.

>>102662841
Except, I as well as a lot of wisps, Don't really pay that close attention to Twitter. Twitter is a cesspool full of faggotry. And I'm terrible at converting her times to my time. I'm not going to desperately look at a schedule and be like
"Oh yeah that's this time".
>>102662898
Honestly I can't even remember the last time that she did a collab with somebody who was smaller than her where it wasn't just a like hour-long call-in or for a birthday where she participated for a little bit.

>>102662695
>Not really
>Not really
>Not really
Jesus fuck, choose other words to use, would you?
>once again she always makes sure that she has her POV being streamed whenever there are bigger people or equals
You've yet to explain how this does make it more likely for her audience to check her collab partners out.
>because the majority of her followers on YouTube aren't going to be paying attention to her Twitter
Source for this claim?

>>102662638
Such a tiny room

>>102662968
Doesnt change what I wrote