Thread 102610765

WE DID IT, REDDIT!

IDF made a video to thank Ironmouse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSUuW--YSc4

>>102610765 (OP)
>raise a half amillion bucks before
>never ask if it went thru or for receipts
Are women retarded

Nice job, I'm assuming this is not at all a scam in anyway. I'm not saying anything in particular but we know ironmouse has been invloved in the IDF for a long fucking time. Maybe she's more involved behind the scenes maybe with some money.... Maybe there's something not quite on the up and up with them. Has anyone audited their books recently?

>>102610765 (OP)
Thanks for circling the number, I really couldn't see it there

>>102610765 (OP)
Would be a shame if it... Somehow disappeared again.

>>102611115
To be fair...the first time she did it, vshojo paid out right away to the charity.
She never expected the next time she does it... they never paid out.

>>102611242
I don't think Tiltify would want to fuck with this shit. The world is watching. They would be asking for a FBI to investigation and instant jail if they made the money disappear.

>>102611090
dangit i thought this was the israel defense force and was salivating at the thought of the tasty drama but its another org

>>102610765 (OP)
Is she taking halvsies on this one too?

>>102611612
She has never taken money donated to charity. It all goes to charity.

>>102610765 (OP)
>>102611090
good shit. fuck vshojo

>>102611129
Part of being a charity requires you to have your books open to the public so you can go take a look if you want.

>>102611090
why the fuck they posted a video in 360p? fucking kek

>>102611698
lool
lmaoo

>>102611090
Nigga she looks like the DLC final boss of Karens

>>102610765 (OP)
People that say IM is comparable, sometimes even saying she's lower, than Hololive are beyond delusional.

>>102610765 (OP)
Cucks do know how to waste their money on stupid shit.

>>102611612
no (yes)

>>102612042
focus on the lawsuit gunrun

>>102611698
Like she would risk her millionaire career over just 1 million.

>>102611145
I'm blind and retarded so having that red circle there really helped

>>102611242
>Would be a shame if it... Somehow disappeared again.
It can't. Money donated through Tiltify goes directly to charity.

>>102611929
Do they look like people who know how to use a computer?

>>102612209
you have a point

>>102610765 (OP)
now someone at the charity will steal that money or give themself a generous salary.

Yay! Now we can finally afford to put little Timmy in the suicide pod. Thanks ironmouse

>>102610765 (OP)
>HEY GUYS IM SICK BTW
bro stfu and stream already

why didn't they just raise money for vshojo if it was incompetence instead of malice

>>102612910
They stole donation money.

>>102610765 (OP)
Will she post proof of donating that money

>>102613186
>retard doesn't understand how tiltify works

>>102611115
Yes. When you tell people you're raising money for charity, you have a responsibility to make sure it's done right. It's not some fly by night operation where you can just collect the money and figure it out later, or let management figure it out for you. Although it was unwitting, Iron Mouse was part of a charity scam. It's sickening that she didn't take any responsibility and that people actually donated again.

>>102612992
they were broke for years, did they even try anything else or go straight to stealing

>>102610765 (OP)
>hey remember all that money you donated? Well It was actually stolen and was a huge scam
>want to do it again?

>>102613682
Funny thing is they could have just made a gofunme to support their studio and have their livers help.
Unless that's illegal or some shit.

>>102615991
based
I will maek Taiga boypregnant

>>102611425
>>102612208
Why didn’t she do this from the start?

>>102610765 (OP)
Waoh! You wirr be sucked!

>>102616240
I think Tiltify was a known thing back then.

>>102613424
Awful take, you are literally describing management's job.

>>102610765 (OP)
LET'S GOOOOOO

GET YOUR CCREDIT CARDS OUT AND BUY MORE SUPAS SO YOUR OSHI CAN LOOK EVEN BETTER ON THE DONATIONS TIER LIST

>>102616868
>management's job
Uh huh, remind me how that ended again? Regardless of how the responsibilities are split, there still needs to be oversight. I don't accept "not my job" as a defense.

>>102616908
Supas are only a feature on Youtube, and IronMouse doesn't stream there. It's not through Twitch either. so it won't affect analytics. Nobody sane actually keeps track of something like a donations tier list. Terrible bait honestly, 2/10, could have used a lot more thought.

>>102618074
>Listen everyone, it's actually also HER fault because SHE trusted her company to do THEIR job and she isn't even TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for actions that WEREN'T HERS
>Ignores the upcoming litigation initiated by her against VShojo for withholding charity funds

That's what you sound like

>>102618183
why did sinder donate 6660 to IDF and consequently appear on tier list/leaderboard, or mint and doki donating over 10k and tweeting screenshots to ten of thousands of likes on twitter?

>>102610765 (OP)
Ironmouse is going to steal this money, too, isn't she?
She's gotta be curious about how many times she can get away with it.

>>102618845
This is through tiltify, which is what hololive uses for its charity streams. The money doesn't go through ironmouse at all.

>>102618568
Hawktua memecoin scam cope all over again.
It's crazy how easy it is. You can rugpull the same people twice and they still won't get it. Ironmouse transferred the money to her buddy who's going to lie low for a bit. The "upcoming litigation" will be forgotten and buried in a month, and then her friend will transfer back Ironmouse's cut.

>>102619008
Perhaps that will pacify the charity into not investigating what happened to the other 500k.

>>102618634
I am not disputing the fact that such a list exists. I am asserting that the intent of the chuuba community donating is *not* to get on the list (except maybe Sinder) but to illustrate that they are united against a great injustice among the vtubing sphere. Doki and Mint did end up making a game out of it, but only between each other, and only in small amounts, which ended up contributing to the hype of the community donating. If such a donation "tierlist" really mattered explain to me why we aren't seeing vtubers add more money after their first donation to surpass others?

>>102619241
This is a federal crime and at that point we'd be seeing mugshots and news stories.

>Donate money to charity for chuuba's sake
>Money gets stolen
>Chuuba (who's a millionaire btw) then asks you to donate more
The whole thing just doesn't sit right with me.

>>102611242
Charity fraud is a legitimate serious crime that drives the IRS to frothing madness.
Depending on the exacts of what Vshojo did there will be people getting sent to jail

New drama just dropped, sorry naplings looks like you've been cucked twice.

>>102619486
All I'm saying is, if no one goes to jail, then Ironmouse stole the money because otherwise she'd be able to catch the person she transferred the money to.

>>102618568
I'm a bit curious... Anyone knows if this has been reported to the authorities? What's the procedure here? What's stopping gunrun from from just running away? There ought to be some legal procedure to keep him from fleeing. I imagine the lawyers are already on it, but it's hard to imagine there's a benign explanation when gunrun and vs in general seems to be mia. Is there even anything left to sue over, or is this going to be a criminal case with a missing fugitive?

>>102619806
Unless the money was actually donated to charity after all, there is literally no way that not a single person will end up behind bars.

>>102620028
Remember to ask Ironmouse about that later.

>>102618845
the thing is is she ran off with a whole fucking mil she could literally play the victim card again and people will just give her even more money calling her so brave and strong.
Her affliction is her strongest weapon because for some reason people cannot comprehend her being a piece of shit off camera

>>102619898
You can sue someone who is already criminally prosecuted for damages in civil court as well. If Gunrun flees and he commited a crime, and depending where he fled to, he may be extradited home to serve trial. Even if he flees successfully, all of VShojo's assets would inevitably be liquidated.

>>102620177
If this were an IronMouse issue we'll be seeing her behind bars in due time. However, the response from the JP CEO live on KSON's stream, the charity already inherently supporting her in fighting her affliction, the overwhelming support from all other company members, the lack of response from any US corporate entity representing VShojo, and the act of litigation initiated by IronMouse and not her company... it's not looking like she's the problem.

>>102613424
> iron mouse

>>102618845
Found the retard who doesn't know how Tiltify works.

>>102619503
probably they won't because bribes solves the problems.

>>102616240
because it was supposed to be bits, donations and subscribes money after twitch got it cut... There was no way to use tiltify for it. They use for other events though

>>102612767
Stream? She has to plan her 20 new outfits before that.

>>102620612
>>102620665
>purposefully didn't use a secure method the first time.
how convenient.

>>102615991
>less likes than $ spend
Taiga is really such an idiot that lets people walk all over him.

Did she send 500k of her own money to make up for it? Nah lets ask the people with less than 6 figures to their name to donate instead of my 7 figure self.

>>102620749
I agree that he's an idiot for this but not for the asinine reason that his likes to dollar ratio is below one.

>>102620967
you don't understand, the money just keeps vanishing, so she needs more!

>>102620722
I want you to create a system that will take money direct from twitch bits and subscribes to tiltify. I promise you, twitch itself would pay you crazy money for it.

>>102610765 (OP)
Wow imagine if she had put a direct link for it the first time

>>102621168
dont worry he is probably underage and retarded. Jerking off to vtuba AI porn.

>>102612557
This isn't Canada

>>102621168
>we have to use the scam method just because, ok?

>>102621243
an underage person can't watch porn. you contradict yourself in just two sentences, making you the retard

>>102610765 (OP)
I MILLION DOLLAR TO IDF

>>102611090
Why are they thanking her instead of the people who actually donated the money? While unintentional, she played a part in the scam, so without her they'd be getting $1.5m instead

All vtubers will stopped receiving supa from their fans in this 3 months thanks to ironmouse

>>102621465
Yes. When the point of the event was a subathon to get as many subs as possible and the donation would be done after it finished it would have to be deposited in the form of subs before that money would then be transferred in the form of a donation. It also worked perfectly fine the first time she did it in 2023 it was only the second time last year where the donation wasn't made.

>>102619516
Reflecting thread? Reflecting thread!

>>102610765 (OP)
e-celeb money laundering

>>102625540
Without her, they'd be getting $0.

Phew, looks like Gunrun's off the hook with IDF.

>>102610765 (OP)
I love the Internet and what autismos can accomplish when they rally their sweaty smelly asses.

Gunrun still owes them $500,000 btw.

>>102633008
do you really think charities weren't a thing before streamers?

>>102619488
I would think if Mouse is lying about Vshojo mishandling funds I would think that would be an easy thing to refute on Vshojo's side since they'd have records of all the money they handled (in theory). Still, being skeptical of millionaires like Mouse is a good trait to have.

it's a weird and surreal humiliation ritual as ironmouse asserts her dominance over the indie sphere.
smart choice would be to immediately stop watching anyone who actually paid into this massive virtue signal.

>>102633333
Is there even any concrete evidence that ironmouse has idf or is there a possibility she made it up?

>>102619488
>Chuuba (who's a millionaire btw)
Do you have any idea what Mouse's monthly upkeep is? Plasma treatments cost a fortune and she requires it once a week. Also she's paid for a house, two 3d concerts and an upcoming live one at Twitchcon, countless models, assets, songs and sank a bunch of money back into her streams in general. Also employs enough people to practically be her own corpo. And she hasn't received money from VShojo likely since September like Kson.

>>102633237
>do you really think charities weren't a thing before streamers?
This one wasn't on Tiltify till Connor badgered them to for Mouse's 4th anniversary. Before this situation the two of them had raised almost 4 million total. There's a reason they've thanked her a few times personally and did shit like took her to speak before congress.

>>102633237
Yes, charities existed. Do you think money just magically floats to charities by the will of God? Not a single goddamn person had ever heard of the Immuno Deficiency Foundation before Mouse and Conner started shilling for it. Anytime any online personality did any kind of charity drive it would go to like the American Cancer society or breast cancer awareness or some much more well known shit like that.
Mouse and Connor put the immune deficiency foundation on the map, and they've raised 5 million dollars to date that they would otherwise have never seen.
>so without her they'd be getting $1.5m instead
So without her, No one would have ever heard of this organization and therefore they'd be getting fucking zero from this.

>>102619898
Fill out and submit IRS Form 3949-A.

>>102611963
what was funny about that post?

Hate you numbermonkes and everyone who donated.
You disturb natural selection with your contribution

>>102619898
The most "benign" case possible is if the money was embezzled by someone else in the org and he's not at fault. Benign in quotes because that would arguably be worse, just that it would mean Gunrun himself gets away scot free lol.

>>102613722
>>102613380

>>102611090
Ain't Charity Foundation is just another corpo who will take a big slice of that cake? Probably 80% of that will be their personal pocket money.

>>102635337
it doesn't explain anything

>>102610765 (OP)
Ironmouse does know she still has to pay the 500k, right? She can't just keep it.

>>102616347
Came here for this, thank you anon

>>102635120
Tens of thousands of people donated and you're giving all the credit to iron mouse and her boyfriend, neither of whom donated a cent. I'm not saying they didn't do anything, but give credit where credit's due unless you want your next charity to raise $0.

>>102618074
There is no defense for your retardation.

>>102636103
Bf? Connor?

>>102636549
They aren't exactly hiding it

>>102610765 (OP)
didn't she fake her sickness
and now apparently the money didn't go through
interesting

Can't wait for the truth about the fake charity to come out

>>102636756
>didn't she fake her sickness
proof?