>the queen of vagueposting

>>102628670 (OP)
Why would people be ascribing that to her

>>102628670 (OP)
>vagueposting
There's nothing vague about this post at ALL ESLbro lol
>>102628739
moist critical said some bullshit in his video on Vshojo about knowing how all these vtuber corpos contracts (implying he knows how Holo's works)
If retards /here/ are trying backtrack a leak to her, than it's probably happening on twitter as well

>>102629044
moist is such a stupid faggot he should shut his mouth up permanently but especially about vtuber shit

>>102629044
Anon, you said a lot more than you were planning to.

>>102629044
>oist critical said some bullshit in his video
oh nyo not her beloved charlie

>>102629044
piss'n shit cock balls I know hot it works also penis balls cock'n piss that's about it see'ya

What the fuck is this even about?

>>102629312
>beloved
She hasn't spoken to that fag like 3 years at the minimum, which why this theory is dumb

>>102629312
I'm pretty sure she vagueposted about "never meeting your heroes" in which she was talking about people like him.

>>102628739
>>102629044
Who else in hololive has the clout to reach out to him so easily? We know she can talk to anyone from trash taste easily including cdawg. The only other person I can think of is kiara.

>>102628670 (OP)
>Be moistcr1tikal
>Be a retard
>Keep saying you've seen vtuber contracts from all companies
>Don't realize that people know the only way he'd see a hololive contract is through her
>Don't realize a shitload of people want her to get fired
>Don't realize you're giving them the opportunity to make this potentially happen
What a dumbass.

>>102630042
It's time to call out his bullshit and ask him which corpo he is talking about.

>>102630042
>implying he has any self awareness

>>102630042
I seriously seriously doubt Mori is that retarded to permit that. Hate her or not I think she does really care about her job with Holo she wouldn't leak shit even to her favoritest groomer eceleb.

>>102630025
Kiara has zero connections to these circles
her clout is all about cosplay and idol stuff
the trash taste stream was a thing Mori dragged her into

>>102630222
We are talking about old Mori

>>102630222
Even is she didn't take it very seriously at first, Mori absolutely places enormous value on her position in Hololive now. Ever since the reality that her other career was never going to match her success as Mori.

Any chance the retarded Moist was just making a hyperbole generalizing having seen EVERY Vtuber contract and that no Holo contract ever got on his lap? Ad that people zoned in on Mori, again for the hundredth time?

>>102630025
Kiara doesn't interact with Twitch E-celebs. Only Mori used to. That's the only way he'd see the contract if his vague claim is true.

>>102630025
could unironically be Gura/Saba
she got friends in OTK and collabed in her PL with some
She is also Texan based, so her meeting up with some twitch streamers in her private life is not unreasonable

>>102630222
>I seriously seriously doubt Mori is that retarded
I would argue with you about this without coming off as a dramafag.

>I seriously doubt the rapper from Texas lied a about not knowing what Texas Tea is.

>>102630407
95% chance it's as simple as this but it's fun to dramafag

>>102630456
I forgot this was a bait thread with how serious everyone is discussing it, moving on

>>102630423
Doubt gura is meeting up with anyone especially fleshies they would leak her or take pictures she wouldnt trust them

>>102630423
OTK????? WHO???? you mean OFTV right?

>>102630042
What's weird is he said the same thing like a year ago and people came to the same conclusion but it didn't get big enough that Mori had to comment on it.
For whatever reason it did this time around. It seems like any time there's big corpo drama people just trot out the same shit that didn't work before and try it again while people are paying attention, and sometimes it works.

>>102630557
but she evidently did so before she joined Hololive
why would she not doit again after sheleft?

>>102630651
before she became famous?

>>102629044
All he said was that he already had a bad opinion of OTHER agencies before Vshojo turned out to also be shit, and that all agencies are shit

>>102630651
me when i make shit up

>>102630663
you saying she was not famous when she did okidoki boomer?
or when she collabed with Belle Delphine for a music video?

>>102630700
Also he's mostly right- all agencies are shit except PHASE CONNECT

>>102630700
How would he know if he hasn't seen the hololive contract. Either way he's running his mouth and creating problems for holomembers.

>>102630737
Nope. If you know you know but theres a big difference in the level of privacy issues she was having then compared to more recent times.

>>102630642
People like you are so explicitely retarded I'm going to call you Jason pirate software.
Jason, you piece of shit retard listen: last year when Selen was terminated hololiveEN hadn't imploded and with the graduations of their biggest talents many more people picked up their pitchforks to rally against corporations.
Don't you think that the scene is much different now? Jason you are a big retard.

You fail to realize that this time the hounds are out for blood.

>>102630771
Back to your containment thread. The adults are talking.

>>102630737
Bro, Bella Delphine that commissioned/asked her to collab for that one bit and back then all the clout went to the pink whore, people thought they were the cool kids for knowing who the singer back then was

>>102630803
iwill concede, yes she is way more recognizable than back then.
My point was just that Mori is not the only one with connections to the texas based twitch streamer circles

>>102630840
Well I'm certainly smarter than you, frogposter. When Charlie said it a year ago, I knew something bad was going to come out about Holo and VShojo. Everyone else was downplaying it, but I knew. You can look back at those threads and see me calling them out and getting shouted down. And look what happened. I was right. I will continue to be right, because I always am.

>>102630894
Mori has also confirmed been to twitch cons recently

>full stop
only libtard white womxn say this

>>102630894
That's like saying Kronii should be close to Nerissa just because of their background

I can understand if they're California freaks since they're all a cult there but that's just grasping at straws

>>102628670 (OP)
>queen of cake eating

>>102630894
>My
Nigga everyone else in EN including the graduated members avoid twitch E-celebs like the plague

>>102630950
Shut the fuck up Jason

>>102630969
but she is NOT the only one that could be leaking (IF anyoneleaked that is)
There are some holos or former holos who are lessopen about what they do in their freetime, if a leak happened it could be anyone, stop focusing on Mori
who knows, maybe Fuwamoco are best friends with Asmongold or whatever,the point is wedon´t know unless they tell us
Mori should not always receive doubt and hate just because she ismore open than the others

wow

>>102628670 (OP)
did she show charlie her contract?

Mori and Omega leaked a LOT more than just the contract

there are way more employees than streamers in hololive
why does it have to be a talent who leaked?

>>102631106
>maybe Fuwamoco are best friends with Asmongold
Yeah or maybe moistcr1tikal materialized a copy of the contract using his psionic mindpowers.
He either got it through Mori or never saw it. Nobody else is stupid enough to hand him one. Simple as.

>>102628670 (OP)
>>102605192

>>102628670 (OP)
Why is she like this?
What is her issue?

>>102631363
I can see Mori having a lot of bad blood with many talents, Saba doesn't follow DD, either.

>>102631223
Because only legal and upper management would have access to them. You really think a 50 year old Jap guy with an mba or law degree handed it to him?

>>102631542
no, but some 26 year old former us based EN manager who tries to find a new job so he leaks shit to big streamers to get clout

>>102630042
Hasn't the Trash Taste kids say they have also seen contracts in the past?

>>102629044
There's literally zero evidence of them interacting outside of shouting each other out several years ago so this rrat was always fucking stupid.

>>102631727
Why the fuck would they show employment contracts to lower management? Have you ever held a real job?

Deserved for simping for Charlie so much early on.

>>102630642
>For whatever reason it did this time around
Really goes to show just how much the Selen controversy changed all of vtubing. Before that I assure you 95% of these recent vtubers coming out with their stories would have never happened, and corpos would keep getting away with things.

Charlie should be well aware that even saying that he has been privy to seeing contracts in any form or media, entertainment is usually and I mean mostly breaking some sort of rule with any company. I'm no fan of Mori but she is justified in being a bit irritated regarding that.

>>102631940
>>102632079
Who the hell is Charlie?

>>102630642
I think the reason is they aren't friends or acquaintances or whatever they were anymore.

>>102628670 (OP)
Yup, that's my oshi.

>>102632128
moist

>>102630423
Didn't she grew up in the Midwest and now currently resides in Florida though? I've never heard of Gura of being from Texas.

>>102632017
>I assure you 95% of these recent vtubers coming out with their stories would have never happened
Is this your first time on the internet? This is literally how online drama has worked for over a decade. Some shit happens and then everyone pounces on it to share “their story”.

>>102629044
Vei said the same shit but was equally full of shit, what’s new?

>>102631849
nta but yes and you'd be amazed how lazy management is about security

>>102632221
Texas is from the midwest. Gura was never there though, she's always been a nor'easter.

>>102628670 (OP)
>You don't know how tiresome it really is

>>102632317
>Texas is from the midwest.
You are actually retarded

>>102632230
In that case I would say it reveals how isolated the vtubing scene once was from the wider internet community, that things that would normally have a huge effect, nothing really came of them, but as the community became larger it became more like the wider internet community in that online drama now works the same way here that it does everywhere else. In 2022, a "vtuber metoo" movement would have had no effect. In 2025, it does.

>>102632384
Middle of America. Yup, looks like the midwest to me.

>>102632402
Middle of America? Nigger, what fucking map are you looking at?

>>102632277
It's not even a out security retards. Every company on earth makes sure as few people as possible see employment contracts so employees don't know who's getting paid what and what benefits others get to make it harder for them to negotiate better pay.

>>102632402
fucking retard

>Mori is the only one that almost none of the former hololive members follow on any of their alternate accounts
>Mori is the only person related to hololive with any kind of connection to charlie
>Mori is friends with the boyfriend of the head of the company that just fell apart in a huge scandal that caused all this
>Mori has previously done things like inviting her sister and her friends to throw a party at the place hololive talents were staying withiout giving a shit about their safety
>"WHY ARE PEOPLE BLAMING MORI!?"

>>102628670 (OP)
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>>102632453
>>102632515
t. doesn't know what middle means

>>102632230
This reply >>102632390 explained it perfectly for me, hell Zaion from nijisanji literally was the perfect example of a #metoo movement that got completely ignored and ostracized, because of how the industry was at the time.

>>102632613
Actual genuine fucking retard

>>102630423
Look at this retarded scumbeat reaching and bullshitting so hard to protect his queen who is not even a decent human being.

This can only end in two ways: either Mori spilled it or her ex-manager Jchad spilled it.

In either scenario, Mori is deserving of termination. Full stop.

>>102632578
But it does still seem like just trying force into this because anons still want her to get fired

>>102628670 (OP)
>vagueposts
>this is so tiresome guys be better :///
remember when she tweeted in 2023 that she wouldn't talk about anything or throw her two cents into drama? If you're in this thread you're a fucking idiot and should just stick to your day job

>>102632715
5 more years, count it down you unwashed ape

>>102632715
>Mori is deserving of termination
But will she? No.

>>102632578
>when I start my post with a lie to accuse someone of lying

>>102632715
If J chad spilled it how the fuck is that Mori’s fault? Mori didn’t hire J Chad, cover did. Anons are really desperate to drag Mori into every drama somehow.

>>102628670 (OP)
>Vagueposting
Is now everyone conveniently forgetting that she was poached by Vshojo and regularly invited to vshojo parties?
https://files.catbox.moe/t8h8ff.mp4

>>102633079
if the first thing you ask yourself isnt "Who benefits from this" then you're either stupid, evil or both

>>102633096
ESLtard, learn what poached actually means before using it in a sentence, rather than treating the catalog as an English dictionary

>>102632402
>>102632613
Not those Anons, so let me give you a US terminology, history and geography lesson.

Because the country began all smushed up along the East coast, the region we call "The South" refers specifically to the Southeast states.
For the same reason, the "mid" in "Midwest" is much further East than you would think, compared to looking at the "middle" of the map. It is named for the "middle of the west" when country was when it was half of the size it is today. That typically means from Ohio to the the stack of states north of Oklahoma. So "The Midwest" actually stops at the center of the country, and doesn't really go into the "West" at all.
Then there two smaller regions, the "Mountain West" and the "Southwest" whose states can vary a little bit depending who you talk to. Then, just to confuse foreigners, none of the three states on the West coast are included in "Mountain West", "Southwest", or "Midwest".

As for Texas, it sometimes is included in "The South" and sometimes in the "Southwest". However, Texas is so large that it doesn't fit perfectly in either, and so sometimes Texas left on its own, or is grouped into some other, less-common "Central South" region as in >>102632712.
But in NO ONE'S definition is Texas ever part of the "Midwest". If you go to the US and say "Texas is in in the Midwest" people will laugh at you and throw things.

>>102633173
Should've said "she was BEING poached"
There

>>102633079
Jchad asked Mori for moistcr1tikal's "business card" and Mori provided it to him.

>>102633154
retards who quit an easy job to make even easier money seem more likely to profit of selling off contract info to dramafags, especially when it's also an opportunity to kneecap their old company that's now direct competition
so by your own standards, we'd be looking at the graduated members having most to gain

>>102633154
>>102633243
These read as extremely schizophrenic posts

>>102628670 (OP)
she's watching dramafags lol

>>102633358
>I cannot deny any of these facts
I accept your concession

>>102630025
Anyone in Holo has the clout to reach out to Charlie, simply by virtue of being in Hololive. Nobody other than Mori would have any reason to do that, however. Specially to leak shit.

>>102633431
You should probably take your meds because you’re still creating new sentences from things that aren’t there.

>>102632715
so true its moris fault!!! proof? i dont have it, you have proof right?...well it doesnt matter because mori bad

>>102633545
If you need to cry that's ok

>>102633562
by his own standard, Mori is the least likely to be involved, since her chances to be involved in special UM projects and collaborations is directly tied to her ability to closely stick to multiple NDAs

>>102633755
>>102633266
holy cope. Yeah that's totally why Mori was pushing herself as the frontman of EN even before anyone was gone

>>102633358
Not mine but let me give you a real schizo post that a janny deleted in a rrat thread.
"You want the biggest and funniest rrat?"
>Mori is friends with Mouse, they talk in private and she probably knows a bit about vshojo.
>The GunRun poaches Mint Fauna and Gura for Vshojo idol
>Mori tells Gura it's bad news and not to accept
>Gura accepts
>This hinders their already soured friendship even further
>Saba follows the GunRun (one of her first follows after she decided to leave Holo)
>Follows every Myth member except Mori
>Nimi is forced on a chibi to wait for her Vshojo model
>Saba uses Vshojo lawyers
>Mori RM tweet the other day is a message to Saba that reads like "I told you so"
>She goes back to her Senzawa account to unfollow GunRun

>>102634030
That rrat started here during mints stream last night

>>102634030
If true I bet Saba feels retarded right about now.

>>102629044
>>102629127
it's that the guy who is 5'2" and his only strong opinion is that we should castrate kids?

>>102633392
Whenever i hear what vtubers watch it's always male ecelebs. They themself don't even watch vtubers

>>102633470
>Gura reaches out to Charlie, everyone thinks Mori did it.
Revenge well served

Did Charlie namedrop Holo? If not then it's a nothingburger and she should not have given it the time of the day, fucking stupid on her part, he is a retard that pounces on drama and spouts whatever, even though he supposedly stopped covering drama by his own words

>>102634173
uh oh melty

>>102628670 (OP)
im going to make her sign a contract with me
for sexo

>>102628670 (OP)
Conner was right.
was...
After showing it to TrashTaste, no wonder Conner despised Hololive.

>>102635242
most Americans are against castrating kids. charlies one strong opinion is that he wants to castrate 5 year olds for some reason

Proof that the jannies are selective.

>>102628670 (OP)
>>102629044
>made literally no mention of hololive
>was most likely about kurosanji
>but holofags immediately made it about them
holy self-report

>>102635612
calm down tranny, your guy is on the list

>>102635779
>tranny
you are the tranny here, retard. you are seething about the fact people are calling the manlet out for wanting to cut kids dicks off, you gay retard.
also that guy isn't on any list, if he was it would have been leaked last year or 5 years ago, and even if he was, which he isn't, he would still be superior to the alternative

>>102629044
The retarded penguin also said that "Since corpo vtubers are successful after quitting corpos and going independent, that proves that agencies are unnecessary and indies are just as successful!"
Literally a smoothbrain take.

>>102635681
We always knew that, but it's been getting worse and worse lately. The only person who actually has any protection is Saba. Everyone else? They just let people say whatever

>>102629044
I mean Charlie is in the same boat as most fans/ youtuber comments. They believe whatever they are told and get emotional at whatever they are told to be emotional about/ Vshoujo was a company which was made from the beginning to change money around hands to be able to pay for everything. The fans supported something that was supposed to be like this from the beginning until it was profitable. This does not mean it was a scam just that it worked like this until they could be paid further down the line. Now the talents, some incompetent (Henya, jp) some 100% in the know (Zentreya, IM, Kson etc) used the bandwagon to be able to ride the wave out so that they won't get the hate targeted towards them. IM made it very clear, you want no trouble to come towards you them you use the scapegoat AND give money to the donation Its literally emotional blackmail.

Regarding DDKs post i am again being reminded that this person which i like so very much has the fucking sight of a horse with glasses. She somehow gets to say whatever she feels like in the worst situations ever. Just please shut up or vent to your friends. She just made it out of the latest bullshit the antis were putting on her back and now she gave them ammo.

>>102630025
Or he could've, you known, just talking BS at worst and misleading at best. Won't be the first time he does, anyway

>>102633243
Why is business card in quotes, is it a euphemism for something. Was J-chad asking for moist's dick?

You guys assuming he's talking about talents when he could just have been talking business with business people is funny

>>102630950
Is this actually Pirate Software? LMAO

>>102628670 (OP)
Yeah that is a reply to every grifter that says that they seen Holo contracts. No way any of these girls would leak one

>>102635748
cuz it's mori retard
holy newfag do ur research faggot

>>102630950
>about Holo
"What about Hololive" 'ism at its finest

>when everybody forgets that this moist person has his own SEO company, so they naturally farm karma, clout, and clicks the same way Mr. Beast does

>>102632317
>>102632402
Texas isn't mid west. mid west is like great lakes, ohio river valley and great plains. texas is south/deep south and south west.
>>102632221
Gura isn't from the mid west
>>102630423
that's a newrRRAT

The funniest part about this is that stupid penguin men is better connected, with better access to information, than literally anyone in this thread, and no amount of seething will change that

>>102638082
he's also 5'1" and really into castrating children

>>102638082
>The funniest part about this is that stupid penguin men is better connected, with better access to information, than literally anyone in this thread
Stop posting here Charlie, everyone knows you're bluffing for clout lol

>>102628670 (OP)
caught in a line, clearly any company involved would also see the contract, not just the lawyers.

>>102635748
"All these Vtuber contracts" includes both Hololive and Kurosanji, retard-san.

>>102633358
Because they are lmao. These seaniggers have been seething for 3 years that they haven't had anything new to attack Mori over.