>>102638681 (OP)
Napcucks will say she means it's gaming idol. Tf is gaming idol even mean?

>>102638681 (OP)
Why are unicorns pretending idol means single? Those roaches already ruined that hobby, that doesn't mean they were right to.

If the concert didn't go as well as she expected and she retired, it's understandable

>>102638681 (OP)
>idol
>married
what did she mean by this?

You don't.
Napcucks are into it

>>102638722
The fuck does AV idol mean? The term has lost or changed its meaning None of these idols want "idol culture" faggotry, they want to be celebs. And it's not a western thing, it's the same for all the "idol-journeying" HoloJPs from Sora to Dev_IS.

>>102638681 (OP)
So can she get rid of idol title now?

>>102638681 (OP)
You guys are reading too much into this, its just fanservice. Nimi has pretty clear boundaries and treats her fans as fans and not friends.

>>102640358
She treats them like wallets

>>102640358
This is the only sane post ITT.

>>102638780
Most actual idols like AKB48 are either married or seeing someone behind the scenes if the number of scandals is any indication. But unicorns are just going to ignore all that if it means that they can continue on with their "all-girls highschool" delusion.

>>102640358
>when it benefits me, it's fanservice
>when it doesn't, it's weird parasocial fucks who need to learn their place
what a great interaction

>>102641707
Actual feminists who complain about idol culture in Japan bring up the fact that the idols actually do keep away from men as proof that they're being oppressed
You literally have no idea what you're talking about
>muh unicorns
You are brown

Nobody here actually follows idols

>>102641798
wrong

>>102638681 (OP)
>letting me be
>your
>gaming
>idol
This is the avatar of deceit and you cannot tell me otherwise

>>102641848
don't forget
>always

>>102638681 (OP)
women lie.

>>102638780
lmao only tourists believe that shit. Idol always means single. These women are soulless whores though hence why they want to milk lonely dudes for money and have partner.

>>102641833
Retard

>>102640358
>Nimi has pretty clear boundaries and treats her fans as fans and not friends
If that was true she wouldn't share personal and intimate information like that, especially when she full knows the vast majority of her fans are lonely men looking for a fantasy.
Not only her boundaries are not clear, she is also a spiteful bitch on top of it kek

>>102642041
>the vast majority of her fans are lonely men looking for a fantasy.
Her numbers and all the seething from yesterdays stream says otherwise.

>>102642086
So did Kronii's before it took a massive nosedive and she had to beg whatever was left from her fans to buy her merch. Congrats on finding out about tourists and dramaniggers.

>>102642109
Is this the new cope? You're powerless, unicorn, Nimi isn't hurt by this.

>>102638681 (OP)
Anyone with a brain already knew she had a boyfriend. Simps just refused to accept reality.
Props to her for wanting a family though, most modern women don't want that.
Too bad she's vegan, she's probably going to force that lifestyle on her poor kids along with the brainrot.

>>102638681 (OP)
She's no longer an idol in my eyes, just a normal streamer now.

>>102642041
>getting married is personal, intimate information
Nigger marriage is a social institution where everyone else in society recognizes a couple as husband and wife, it's public knowledge by definition and absolutely not private

>>102642159
>Is this the new cope?
You have to be a tourist yourself kek, you are literally repeating the exact same cope tourists repeated for Kronii before they left her to crash and burn. Your kind are pathetic and the real antis to these vtubers.

>>102642250
>everyone else in society
>couple
Nigger I don't give a single fuck about the person behind the character that plays Nimi, saying it's public knowledge when it has nothing to do with the character she's portraying is like saying that if an actor in a movie suddenly stopped acting mid film to announce she's getting married is something the crowed deserved to know. Not a single person would think that's something they wanted to see in their film or came to watch it for.

>>102642314
Been here long enough to know tourist is 4chan for "opinion I don't like".

>>102638681 (OP)
this model makes her look like she's 40

>>102642380
Double ironic then because you used the term unicorn which basically means the exact same thing. That makes you a unicorn as well then.

>>102642376
She's not really playing a character. Most of her content is about her real life, you wouldn't care if she mentioned her siblings or parents but draw the line now because it makes you upset

>>102642250
It is still considered sensitive personal information. If she had clear boundaries she wouldn't mix personal and professional life, but she doesn't, she just picks and chooses every time depending on what's convenient for her.

>>102638681 (OP)
haha.... that's life!

>>102642408
No buddy, unicorn means "socially maladjusted weirdo who thinks all vtubers should be pure virgins".
Tourist means "person whose opinion has gone against what I feel is the boards unified opinion, violating my special little hugbox and that makes me upset".
You see? Unicorns exist both in and out of /vt/. Tourist is a term unique to 4chan.

>>102642450
>She's not really playing a character
Niggerchama have you looked the picture of this very thread? Just how fucking stupid are you tourists

>>102642525
>"socially maladjusted weirdo who thinks all vtubers should be pure virgins".
That is not what unicorn means faggot, you just proved both that you're a tourist and that the term unicorn completely lost it's original meaning and that it's just used by retards like you to depict someone you don't like. You proved me right twice here actually.

>>102642376
>>102642544
I like how the OP picrel doesn't support your point... at all.
There is literally no suspension of disbelief about her bringing the "Nimi" concept to life. It's an avatar she uses to project her own personality. You are a braindead cuck for not noticing this. Watch streams.

>>102642590
You know "retarded" used to mean "one slowed down, but capable of catching up", but I doubt that older definition applies to you. Definition change buddy. Like Tourist itself was a /pol/ term, originally leveled at right wingers invading during 2016. Who thought pol was actually turbo racist, not that they were all just dicking about. Now within /pol/ a tourist is ironically someone who is not hardcore right wing.
Nobody, even here, cares about the nuances between gachikoi and unicorns. To them and the vast majority of the internet unicorns are the MALE ON STREAM faggots.

>>102638681 (OP)
Blacked "idol"

>>102642159
her old co-workers were right to act the way they did. she used everyone and wanted to have all the cakes for herself. unicorns just wanted to enjoy the delusion. most of them are bunch of pussy and harmless virgin, but she had to ruin it just because? she seemed to enjoy swimming in unicorn money too. this doesn't make any sense? unless.. someone was going to snitch on her, then.. this whole thing is starting to have more weight

every sane person should be "unicorn"
watching married woman 24/7, following her social media, buying her items to "support" would be considered cuck behavior in any other scenario

>>102642776
God i hope the husband is black

>>102638681 (OP)
yea she is low

>>102642455
I'm a different anon from the one who mentioned "boundaries". All I said is that marital status is not personal or sensitive information - and it isn't.
Although he's right that this is consistent with maintaining proper boundaries. Being married isn't something you just tell your friends, it's something you go out of your way to make plainly clear to everybody who bothers to look, for obvious reasons. That's one of the functions of wedding rings for Christ's sake.

>>102642380
This isn't even a refutation of that anon's point. Why don't you try saying something of substance

>>102642824
but if she doesn't mention it even if you know it's true it somehow doesn't count

>>102642846
What fucking point lmao. He just poorly compared it to something completely different and poured on the meaningless buzzwords. Should I have argued that ultimately I'm way better than him at dirt rally and therefore sigma balls?

I'm baffled unicucks actually spent money on her merch. Like what were you trying to accomplish? You already heard the "not your friend" speech and you still bowed and opened your wallet to her? I think people at a certain level of stupidity deserve to be taken advantage of.

>>102642884
Sorry, do you want to try talking to me like an actual human instead of like an bot who vomits up buzzwords?

ISRAEL

I wonder, what is this significance of this time of the day right now. Why is there always an influx of absolutely braindead posts in half-dead threads around this point? Some timezone or a just a particularly active schizo waking up?

>>102642824
How about you fucks don't devote yourselves to internet women 24/7? Please for the love of god, anyone can stop being pathetic.

>>102642858
but it does? you're describing cucks in denial, not unicorns

>>102642858
I know movie actors are married, I go watch their movies not because I want to know about their personal life but because I want to watch the character in the fucking movie they're playing in.
No sane person would actually enjoy a movie with movie actors suddenly breaking character and revealing personal life matters about themselves unprompted mid film.

>>102638681 (OP)
Why would you choose to continue watching her instead of any of the other indie Vtubers who actually aren't dating
>inb4 they all have boyfriends
In the US, about 30% of female Zoomers don't have boyfriends. So if you took a room of 20 girls, the chances of all 20 having a boyfriend would be slim. A few years back, they said that there were 8000 Vtubers. I can only imagine it's about 3 or 4 times that number now
The chances of 10s of thousands of girls all having a boyfriend are honestly microscopic to the point that you're honestly looking at a 0.000001% chance. So you have no excuse

>>102642397
>look like she's 40

>>102642899
You're asking for a serious debate by reformatting my post and firing it back at me? I try not to argue with parrots bro it seems somewhat pointless.

>>102642814
she did play her role for unicorns as Fauna now she's moving on from that and her fans are free to leave if they don't like it

>>102642918
Imagine calling other people schizos when you spend so much time on /vt/ bait threads that you actually start thinking and posting like this

>>102638681 (OP)
idol culture is funding women's concerts.
her concert was funded.
you've reached the ending.
since vtubing is done by irl women, the ending is the NTR one.

>>102642938
her streams are not scripted she always talked about her real personal life you just don't like where her life went

>>102642959
What's wrong with noticing tendencies?

>>102642994
Do tell me how much more do you know about her personal life other than her marriage? I'm thrilled to know.

>>102642006
sure, but idol in that sense also means like 15yo girl, 30yo idols usually graduate
It's idol in the spirit what the idol means - aspirational figure

>>102638681 (OP)
Simple.
She's an actress and a performer. She's living a normal life along doing her job.
Anyone getting angry about her living a normal life are the ones who should be 'defending' some argument. Except they won't because it's insane and impossible.

>>102642738
>It's an avatar she uses to project her own personality
an avatar which just happens to be the most effective visualization for siphoning money from lonely men by exploiting the vulnerabilities in their brains

>>102638681 (OP)
the fact she is married, disqualifies her to be an idol

>>102642376
but probably half of any vtuber stream is her talking about her life
how does that hold up against your analogy

>>102642938
Anon let's be honest here.
Your analogy doesn't work...
Only very few freaks actually care about movie actors. Only the movies.
Vthots, streamers and youtubers are not actors, they are random unqualified people that wanted attention, easy money and fame via media.
These people cultivate an awful way to acquire that. By cultivating an audience to support their ego.

>>102643054
>actress and a performer
Real actresses and performers don't suddenly start talking about their personal life mid performance. Not only it's completely unprofessional it's also not even the reason people came to watch her performance in the first place.

>>102641848
>"letting me be"
>her husband tells her what content to do and not to do on her streams because he is jealous otherwise (like ASMR)
>"your"
>is married
>"gaming"
>is terrible at video games
>"idol"
>she is being fucked by a man off-stream and publically announces this on twitter thinking it's ok, hence completely making a joke of the word "Idol"
Nimi Nightmare, everybody!

>>102643024
nta and I don't even watch her often, but even I know, for example, that she majored in biology with a minor in physics at university, that her whole family is vegan like her, and I remember her yapping about her favorite movies back during that Sims spinoff stream a couple months back. She talks about herself while also setting up and enforcing boundaries.

>>102643091
Those people you're describing are not vtubers, they are just streamers with a 2D avatar. There's a big difference here compared to what vtubing started as as a roleplaying concept before retarded e-thots bastardized that term and just used it to sell coomer content without having to expose their bodies.

>>102641664
if she really did that, superchats would be on

>>102642918
Burgers waking up, seaniggers finishing work. It's a double whammy of retardation.

>>102643054
>>102643102
>is an actress
>"Romeo, Romeo! Wherefore art thou Rome- hold on a sec, i gotta tell you about the time we fucked with my husband for 4 hours straight and he couldn't get it up afterwards lmao"

>>102643162
please link me to that "real" vtuber, and i'll find you the clip or tweet where they talk about their cat, what they had for dinner, who they've met recently and that they've felt sad because X happened.

>>102643152
nta but you know she can make that up right? You don't personally know so you can't actually know if any of the things she's saying are actually true or just something she's making up for her character.

>>102643102
When has she talked about it mid performance? Twitter is mid performance? Actresses talk about their personal life much more than that in Twitter.

>>102642950
after she pocketed the unicorn money, yeah. she precisely used everyone. kronii, shadow and her fans. at least she will now be happy with the husband she had cheated on kronii with. Congratulation!

>>102643248
she can be making up that she's getting married, what's your point?

nimi isn't an idol if she's sharing personal details about her life and is out with her actual relationship, it just makes her another e-girl streamer funding her life with a paypig membership

>>102642001
"women are dangerous"
- kronii

>>102642824
imagine feeling cucked over a women who's living her life and you just want to see more about her content

>>102643249
Actors don't tweet using the handle name of the character they're playing retard. That would be like Scarlett Johansson opening a Black Widow account and tweet about her personal life as Black Widow.

>>102643152
>Whole family is vegan
Retardation truly is genetic

>>102643312
there was a whole ad where "Avengers" shilled for Kamala, what are you talking about

I bet if you scream at Nimi she should remove that idol moniker because she has a partner she'll just go okay I'll be a gamer performer then

Why did she join hololive if she hated everything that makes it good?

>>102643102
She doesn't perform all the time. And streams don't have a script a streamer should follow

What is this new angle that vtubers don't talk about their personal life? That was literally never the case

>>102643372
>new angle
who was the first vtuber you watched?

>>102643361
She joined specifically to groom her oshi and she clearly succeeded

>>102643387
Nimi

>>102643361
Easy money and fame.
Dumbass

>>102643424
You think vtubing as a concept started in 2025? You're just watching streamers with 2D avatars not what vtubing was built on in 2016.
There's a reason why Hololive is the apex company in the vtubing industry, they are the only big name that still cares about what vtubing started as.

>>102638681 (OP)
Is it possible that she did this was to purge unicorns out of her community?
I'm taking a wild guess here, trying to come up with reasonable explanation.

>>102642947
I'm asking you to try acting like a human instead of a sperg but apparently that's too difficult for you

>>102643009
Forgetting that there is more to the world than "the US" and SEA, for starters

>>102643305
imagine feeling cucked over your wife who's just living her life on her innocuous vacation in gambia

>>102643491
but hololive girls talk about their daily lives all the time

>>102643493
Why do the whole "gamer idol" pretend then? She had a chance to completely change her image as a streamer in her redebut and set new boundaries to weed them out but the only thing she changed was her lore.

>>102643183
She sold merch on debut. Or does that not count?
Do you think she's streaming for free or something? This isn't a charity, it's a business

>>102643556
she set new boundaries now there are no rules you have to follow

>>102643530
There's a major difference here anonchama, holos don't tend to talk about their personal life too far outside of the context of their character and lore. Why do you think Bae calls her mom "mamarat" and dad "paparat" instead of just mom and dad? Because they at least make an effort to make their character and their daily lives somewhat appear in context with their character and lore.

>>102643495
Bro you're asking me to consider this the Harvard debate club but phrasing the question like your average hostile 4channer. What point do you want addressed here buddy? If its not outrageously stupid I will deign to answer it with whatever decorum it deserves.

>>102643493
she's free to do all that but should have probably stopped calling herself an idol and doing idol activities ahead of milking her fans with an idol concert and idol merch. i get that it's her business and it was a business decision but come on. it's pretty sleazy and cynical by any stretch. if some jap idol did this in japan the jp idolfags would go scorched earth.

>>102643617
but they talk about surgeries they're getting. Their character does not need to get surgeries, They talk about their household animals, while their characters don't have to have the same animals that they have irl. They talk that they've met each other at the cafe or flew over to meet Kiara, Marine talked about her highschool friend and brought up the game she wrote in highschool. That's just from the top of my head

>>102642525
>No buddy, unicorn means "socially maladjusted weirdo who thinks all vtubers should be pure virgins"
The fact that you had that long ass quote just proves you either came from reddit or twitter.
Fuck off faggot.

I love my pregnant idol wife

https://files.catbox.moe/q9w31r.jpg

>>102643734
much like actual pro wrestling kayfabe where idol culture takes from it's more flexible as long as you are clearly respecting the fans who spend their money on you and the spirit of the performance.

Only way to defend it would be to post nudes as an apology

>>102643524
I haven't said anything about US or SEA. Might be fucking Brasil for all I know. Or some czech sperg returning from school. That's what I was asking about, any ideas?

>>102643797
You know you can use quotations for yourself right?
"lmao, what an idiot" - me, referring to you.

>>102643637
>Bro you're asking me to consider this the Harvard debate club
No I'm not, I'm saying to stop talking like a sperg and you literally can't. Do you have brain damage or reading difficulties or something?

>>102642250
Private is not the same thing as personal fuckface

If I asked you for your full name, date of birth, current address and the names and addresses of all your family members, you would tell me to fuck off despite all that information technically being public information because it's PERSONAL information

Your marriage status is absolutely personal information, it's even more personal than your name since employers aren't even allowed to ask if you're married

>>102642940
Because I have not found anyone like her? No shit if I did then I would move

>>102642845
>All I said is that marital status is not personal or sensitive information
You're wrong. Learn about the meaning of words before using them.

>>102643884
She's a white woman vegan who is now married, it would not be difficult to find a better Vtuber than her with a bit of searching around

>>102643734
Does any of that information impact the fans negatively? No? Then it's okay because it respects the fans.

>>102642938
vtubers aren't actors they are emotional prostitutes that should keep their mouths shut and provide parasocial affirmation in pseudo romantic relationship
Nimi was gfe, she did valentine streams and was openly flirty with chat

There have been married idols. There is currently an active married (japanese) idol*. I'm not sure where the fuck this whole "you can't be an idol id you're married" thing comes from. Seriously go check out the leader of Momoiro Clover Z.

*Korean idols are married out the ass but you guys would say that doesn't count so I specified an active Japanese one.

>>102643804
so Nimi is at the same point in her career after retiring her Fauna character as wrestlers doing shoot interviews what's wrong with that

>>102642772
True oldfags know that early 4chan is libertarian and both clown on the left and right.

>>102643908
The exceptions prove the rules

>>102643804
and how "i'm getting married" is not respecting the fans? Shouldn't you be offended back when she was selling MILF hats?

>>102643904
>vtubers aren't actors they are emotional prostitutes
GSH

>>102643908
>because exceptions exist therefore the rule doesn't exist

What is this zoomer debate tactic? I see it everywhere

>>102643901
so it all comes down to being upset she's not single at least be honest about it

>>102643804
>pro wrestling kayfabe where idol culture takes from
kek, you are actually retarded

>>102642776
Where the fuck was everyone getting that the husband is black?

>>102643930
>>102643918
The rule quite literally only exists for certain idol companies, not all.

>>102643930
Th education system has been actively under attack for years

>>102638681 (OP)
should have listened to the dozen of the "shes a grifter" red flags

>>102638681 (OP)
By not being a fucking loser. Try it sometime.

>>102643942
From their cuck fantasies of course. You can also tell they are american btw, because only they have this weird black cock obsession.

>>102643942
Nowhere. Just like she never specified a husband and people are running with that. She has actually somehow avoided talking about them even during the announcement tweet and talked around them and then the stream happened and she mentioned even less.

>>102641756
>Actual feminists who complain about idol culture in Japan bring up the fact that the idols actually do keep away from men as proof that they're being oppressed
Because they're contractually obligated to? Even if those contracts are technically a violation of Japanese labor laws, these things do happen. Minami Minegishi was one of those members who kept away from men in public, but had a secret lover in private. Then she was practically pressured into shaving her head as an act of 'contrition' when she was found out. Many unicorns (because that's what you are) live under the delusion that the protection of fans’ fragile fantasies automatically trumps the basic human right to a life outside that fantasy framework.

>SEA hours poster accusing people of being brown
Shouldn't you be running from Cambodian artillery strikes or something, ladyboy?

>>102643860
Okay, I'll try me very best mi'lord, removing any joviality from this point onward mi'lord: What point do you want me to argue?

>>102643936
Not at all. It's the fact that Nimi is not getting married. Nimi's roommate is getting married. It's a deliberate disrespect for the medium of vtubing and the culture of idols. Everybody knows idols have secret boyfriends and shit, but it's part of the social contract between the idol and the fans that this will happen, but they should do their absolutely best to hide it from public discourse.

Nimi is violating that social contract because she called herself an idol and the general expectations of her fans even without the idol stuff is that she doesn't mention personal relationships.

>>102643930
So why can't this also be an exception.

>>102642938
Anon, the analogy doesn't work when the said analogy looks like an excuse to hide the real reason.

>>102643908
a handful of modern exceptions definitely doesn't override decades of idol kayfabe. i don't think anyone here is a total rube and believes these women are actually unsullied maidens but it's all about doing the performance you were paid to do. once you blur the lines in an unhelpful way you just ruin it for everyone else.

>>102643952
It is the cultural standard. Simply saying "yeah but not all" doesn't matter.

>>102644019
It literally is an exception. Exceptions draw criticism. This exception is drawing criticism.

Exception doesn't mean 'free pass to do whatever you want' because then the rule truly doesn't exist

>>102643057
Men willingly spend their money and time on these girls and blame them when the girls turn out to be humans with lives and they feel exploited as a result. Nigger you are not the victim here. If Nimi pulled out a gun and forced you to input your card number we'd be somewhere, but we both know that's not the case.

>>102643998
>trumps the basic human right
it's not like she's forced to work as an idol. It's like starting a 9-5 job and then complaining that your boss is imprisoning you into cubicle or going to work in the construction and complaining that your boss is expecting you to haul things and work like some sort of slave

>>102643162
Not even Kizuna Ai herself refrained from talking about her personal life occasionally.

>>102643900
IDK that’s you. It’s like describing Kronii as a Korean dyke. These classifications don’t mean shit in terms of finding someone new. I can’t find someone who has the same soothing voice, the same sense of humor, the same cute giggles sprinkled throughout a stream, etc…

>>102643998
>get into a line of work with very clear expectations
>>WHY CANT I JUST DO WHATEVER I WANT

Why are women allergic to honoring their promises? If you don't want to follow the expectations given to you, why continue to be an idol? Oh it's because you like the money and senpai. So you actually mean that people want all the benefits without giving anything in return because women are just owed money from men for doing nothing.

who says that you can't be a nakadashi idol

>>102644047
This "cultural standard" died years before vtubing became a thing. AV idols are getting fucked on stream, Hololive idols talk about shitting in playgrounds (idols don't go to the toilet, remember?), there are literally married idols as someone already mentioned. You're just clinging to it to justify your delusions.

>people wouldve preferred she keep lying and stringing along lonely men for another 4 years instead of giving them an easy out reason

>>102644099
you're free to not support her she gave her audience update on her future life situation and they can make informed decision

>>102644082
You're not forced to give her any money either yet here you are complaining about her finances and how she's "ruining vtubing."

>>102644099
>Why are women allergic to honoring their promises
What promises lol? Where did she promise to be celibate and never marry?
> If you don't want to follow the expectations given to you, why continue to be an idol?
An outdated mindset that was never really accurate to begin with since its pretty much an unspoken truth that most idols (actual idols) have partners. Practically all the old guard of AKB48 have been caught with a man at some point.

I’m not advocating that VTubers shouldn’t have private lives or basic human relationships. Everyone deserves personal happiness. However, when a VTuber chooses to present themselves in a way that clearly invites parasocial attachment—leaning into “idol-like” behavior, flirting, calling fans their “boyfriends,” or even crafting content that hinges on emotional intimacy—then they are entering into a unique social contract with their audience. It's a performance, yes—but one that directly profits from the illusion of availability and emotional exclusivity.

This isn't unprecedented. Japanese idol culture has long operated under this principle: while it’s imperfect and controversial, the logic is simple. The image of purity or emotional availability is a central part of the appeal. When that image is contradicted—say, through a revealed romantic relationship—it doesn’t just "break the illusion"; it invalidates the emotional investment many fans have made. Not because those fans “own” the VTuber, but because their trust was built on what now feels like a false foundation.

VTubers are not forced to build this kind of fanbase. Many successful streamers avoid this kind of intimacy and still thrive. But if a VTuber intentionally leans into it—accepting money, gifts, and unwavering attention from lonely fans while building the fantasy of availability—then they should at least acknowledge the consequences when they act in ways that undermine that fantasy.

The real issue is consent of the illusion. Fans are told, directly or indirectly, “this is a safe space for you to dream, to feel appreciated, even loved.” And when those fans find out that it was never genuine—that while they were emotionally (and often financially) investing in someone who played the part of “your virtual girlfriend,” she was in a relationship the whole time—it feels like betrayal. Not of ownership, but of trust.

>>102644105
if nimi just made actual gravure/porn none of this would be a problem, it would solve everything in fact

>>102638681 (OP)
I never thought I was in a sexual relationship with someone I've never met and doesn't know my name because I'm not a literal schizophrenic.
If you do, unironically seek psychiatric help.

>>102644062
Men also willingly spend their money and time on gambling, drugs, scams, and frauds too. Predatory practices should be regulated, if not legally, then socially.

>>102644113
>This "cultural standard" died years before vtubing became a thing
If it died, why do people in EN and JP spheres still have this cultural standard then? If it died, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. If it died, the Rushia Incident wouldn't have happened.

>AV idols are getting fucked on stream
Adult entertainers performing adult entertainment? Get the fuck out of here, no shot bro, no shot

>Hololive idols talk about shitting in playgrounds (idols don't go to the toilet, remember?)
Okay, how does that relate the cultural expectation of them maintaining the illusion of being single?

>there are literally married idols as someone already mentioned
And? Exceptions don't disprove the rule.

>>102644163
>leaning into “idol-like” behavior, flirting, calling fans their “boyfriends,” or even crafting content that hinges on emotional intimacy
Are we still talking about the same girl?

>>102644168
If she recorded her honeymoon impregnation and sold the video everyone here would jack off to it and she would be rich.

>>102644182
Bro listen to yourself; you're saying Nimi announcing she's getting married is on the same level as me selling crack

>>102644183
>If it died, the Rushia Incident wouldn't have happened.
Nigger cover themselves literally said what they do in their own time, including relationships, is none of Cover's business. Rushia got nuked because she leaked shit to a fucking dramanigger, not because she was fucking an alien.

Azki is fucking married. You can literally go to Nayuta and see her post from fucking 2020 when she said she was married, and no one gives a single fuck.

>>102644155
Yes, and people do stop supporting them. So what issue do you have exactly?

>>102644158
>What promises lol? Where did she promise to be celibate and never marry?
Implicit social contract of calling yourself an idol and to a lesser extent a vtuber.

>An outdated mindset
Source? You faggots keep saying it's outdated or died but it clearly hasn't since we are having this conversation.

>its pretty much an unspoken truth that most idols (actual idols) have partners.
Then you don't understand the discourse we're having. It's not about the reality of whether or not they do have partners, it's about whether or not they maintain their social contract to APPEAR single.

>Practically all the old guard of AKB48 have been caught with a man at some point.
The fact they are 'caught' implies that the cultural standard still very much exists, retard.

>>102644163
I mean there's a reason why napcucks are memed as needy fucks coz fauna treat them with semi parasocial relationship. People will deny this especially the napcucks but fauna's content has gfe taste into it.

>>102644182
>vtubing is the same as gambling and drugs

>>102644183
>why do people in EN and JP spheres still have this cultural standard then?
I've already explained it - because it is a good excuse for retarded faggots like you to justify their delusions. You are an overwhelming minority though, ridiculed by everyone both in EN and JP spheres.

>>102644232
>It's not about the reality of whether or not they do have partners, it's about whether or not they maintain their social contract to APPEAR single
>idols should be allowed to string lonely men along and siphon money off of them instead of breaking the kayfabe and telling their fans the truth

>>102643343
I live in a corrupt shithole but somehow American politics is crazier

>>102644236
I'm fairly convinced you dudes have zero clue what GFE is now. In the past few days I've seen people argue that Filian has GFE elements.

>>102644232
>Implicit social contract of calling yourself an idol and to a lesser extent a vtuber
I didn't realize that Vtuber stood for Virtual Idol instead of Virtual Youtuber.

>>102643225
NTA but Kizuna Ai.

>>102644182
Then that doesn’t just apply to Nimi. It applies to everything, all the vtubers, and the fleshie whores that stream to gain support and money from lonely men. The market was built on the foundation of loneliness. If you wanted regulation then every vtuber with a partner should announce it during their debut, to avoid exploiting lonely men looking for ways to satisfy their fantasies.

>>102644223
dawg i don't even need full penetration, probably some OF tier videos of my weird fetishes. it would feel like more of an equitable transaction than buying her current membership

>>102644231
>Nigger cover themselves literally said what they do in their own time, including relationships, is none of Cover's business. Rushia got nuked because she leaked shit to a fucking dramanigger, not because she was fucking an alien.
????
Why the fuck are you talking about Cover? I'm not talking about Cover, I'm talking about fan reaction and the fact it WAS a big deal to both Rushia and her fans. Cover has nothing to do with it. You retards don't seem to fundamentally understand this idea.

>Azki is fucking married. You can literally go to Nayuta and see her post from fucking 2020 when she said she was married, and no one gives a single fuck.
Don't make me tap the fucking sign again, also Nayuta is married. Azki is not. Why don't you understand the distinction between vtuber and real person? I do not give a single flying shit about the real person.

>>102644243
Ah so you're just retarded

>the standard is dead
>>so why do people continue to be upset over people violating the standard?
>it's so they have a reason to be upset
Circular reasoning

>You are an overwhelming minority though
In terms of population? Probably. In terms of monetary value? Yeah lol, unicorns make up the majority of revenue. Hence why the standard exists because people want unicorn money

>>102644230
I'm not talking about the marriage announcement. Romance scams are illegal in most countries for a reason. Most vtubers are just doing a romance scam on a larger scale. The marriage announcement simply made the viewers realize they've been swindled.

>>102644295
If that's the thing you pick out as corrupt then big oof

>>102644278
Yeah I have no problem with that. A fool and his money are easily parted.

>>102644317
Vtubing culture is a direct descendent of idol-anime-otaku culture in general. It inherited the 'pure maiden' idea. To pretend that it didn't is a deliberate attempt at revisionist history.

What does “idol” even mean for non-JP vtubers? Cause it seems like it’s just a stretch for being an e-girl getting fucking married and shit. So tired of these griefing whores culturally appropriating stuff they never even knew existed before becoming more popular and able to make money off

>>102644316
Whatever you say napcuck-kun. Whatever makes you sleep at night during this trying times.

>>102642250
>it's public knowledge by definition and absolutely not private
At best in any good structured country we would only know if someone is married or not and that's is it, mostly because some company require this information because of law or tax. You don't go up to stranger and ask if they are married or not without a goddam good reason.

>>102644319
Nimi is the only one (or the most known) to abuse it to such a degree while also trying to come off as perfectly clean, though.

>>102644352
That comparison is so fucking stupid I'm simultaneously baffled and highly amused.

>>102643857
Sure fag. Whatever deflection suits you best.

>>102644369
>Yeah I have no problem with that. A fool and his money are easily parted.
Then what the fuck are you even arguing about lmfao
This entire discussion is pointless.

Idolfags are deranged.

>>102638681 (OP)
>idol
kek she never really understood what that word means

>>102644374
lets you sleep at night ESL-chan. Makes you sleep at night would be like if I had a bedtime.

>>102643998
>Many unicorns (because that's what you are) live under the delusion that the protection of fans’ fragile fantasies automatically trumps the basic human right to a life outside that fantasy framework.
Oh no, a woman joins a job and spends a few years not dating in return for a huge amount of support from their agencies and their fans and are free to quit whenever they want to and start dating. Their fans will even support and cheer for them when they quit and finally get married and yet you're pretending that these women are being persecuted? Meanwhile less and less men are getting married or settling down, some going years without dating even once
Genuinely fuck off. Your standards are fucking revolting

>>102644410
I'm arguing about keeping the standards of the medium in tact less we have no standards and vtubing just turns into literal Twitch whores 2.0

>>102644328
>I'm not talking about Cover, I'm talking about fan reaction and the fact it WAS a big deal to both Rushia and her fans.
>HER FANS
You mean the people who still followed her out and supported her until it turned out she may have been abusing cats while also being a bitch to her audience? That? Because you had fandead, including her whales, still supporting her until she decided to go even more retard than her leaking to a drama nigger.
>Why the fuck are you talking about Cover?
The "no relationship" shit literally starts at the company level for every other idol agency. Some are ok with it. Some are not. It's the ones that are not that get the fucking spotlight when something goes wrong.

>>102644231
>Azki is fucking married
Azuki isn't selling parasocial fantasy

>>102644360
I meant more like I didn't think things could get lamer than what we have here but the gringos keep pulling all these crazy stunts.

>>102644090
My friend, there are plenty of fish in the sea

>>102644278
yep this is the whole basis of idol culture, you are paid to perform being a pure woman for weirdos. it's a pretty simple system aside from all the infamous organized crime involvement in japanese mass media.

>>102644231
Ever noticed how Azki doesn't call herself an idol?

>>102644236
Can you describe this gfe taste in her streams? What did she do?

>>102643981
I should have known it was projection, but I'm hoping too much.

>>102644403
Find me one female vtuber who isn't doing at least some amount of gfe and i'll agree

>>102644469
It fucks with me that you have people ITT knowingly supporting their own exploitation and calling you a cuck if you say otherwise. The irony is so palpable that I can almost reach out and stroke it.

>>102644507
Nimi Nightmare

>>102644454
>You mean the people who still followed her out and supported her until it turned out she may have been abusing cats while also being a bitch to her audience? That? Because you had fandead, including her whales, still supporting her until she decided to go even more retard than her leaking to a drama nigger.
Ah yes, I remember when Rushia, still the single biggest supa earner in Holo continued to dreg up UNGODLY sums of money from her fans after that. Truly there was no impact on her career whatsoever.

Fuck off retard. Simply because she has A fanbase doesn't mean nothing changed. Fucking Sinder still has a fanbase, that doesn't mean anything.

>The "no relationship" shit literally starts at the company level for every other idol agency.
I literally do not care, I do not see how this has any relevance to the discussion. The company can do whatever it wants, I do not care. I don't agree with companies limiting people's personal freedom like that. They should be free to date and see who they wish.

>>102644469
They also pretend the executives aren't fucking the idols.

>>102644490
Gfe to your average vtposter is woman talked on stream

>>102644490
if I fall in love with girl on the internet it's gfe

>>102643998
>Minami Minegishi
Why do you faggots always bring up the single case from 12 years ago to make your argument? Is it because you don't actually know shit about idols so you only discuss the one case that was famous enough to have made it into the overseas news cycle?

>>102644455
Sure buddy

>>102644522
Oh so none exists. That's what I thought

>>102644438
>Meanwhile less and less men are getting married or settling down, some going years without dating even once
And this is the woman's fault? Take a shower, have a passion, and learn how to talk to women. There's your solution to the male loneliness epidemic.

>>102644394
>he doesn’t know
anon… some of the most unicorn friendly girls right now in JP and in EN have partners that they hide from you. The fact that Nimi revealed that information (despite it being really late which I do acknowledge) is still a lot better than the girls who continue to hide it to exploit more money from the gachikois.
The only real sin here is that she is disrupting the delusion within an established system. Not your bullshit claim of exploiting muh loneliness, it should be regulated ramble.

>>102644526
>I literally do not care, I do not see how this has any relevance to the discussion.
Then you're a genuine fucking retard who is mad about arbitrary rules you made up.

>>102644555
Do you think? I find it hard to believe given your previous posts

>>102644549
Its precisely because its infamous that it keeps getting brought up. It really put the way idols are mistreated by the industry's unrealistic expectations on public radar because of how shameful the whole situation was. Violated a few labor laws too.
I could also bring up Saya, the cute weather girl who received death threats when it was found out that she had been seeing someone on the side. A fucking weather girl, and Jap incels when nuts over her personal life.

>>102644574
>male loneliness epidemic
Imagine thinking this is what's going on in Japan. Jesus Christ, you're both retarded and insufferable
>muh touch grass
Buddy, you're arguing for hours on 4chan. Don't pretend you're a normalfag all of a sudden

>>102644577
The only JP who unexpectedly came out as married was Rushia and she did everything but pretend to be clean. You have no proof, and even if you did, it's not relevant.

>>102644539
no one ever said this wasn't happening, being an idol is as much a performance as playing a face or heel in pro wrestling.

>>102644438
A male streamer like Northernlion gets married, starts a family, and no one gives a shit.
A female vtuber like Nimi announces marriage and suddenly she's a whore that's ruining the community.
Don't pretend like there isn't a double standard.

>>102644574
retard

>>102644622
You're good at being a smartass but you offer nothing of substance. That's why you can't change people's minds

>>102644658
>Its precisely because its infamous that it keeps getting brought up
No, it's because you literally don't know anything about Idols in Japan and don't follow them to any extent other than the one famous case. Which idols are you following then?
Can you talk about them to any extent other than the one or two controversies you memorised specifically to argue with Unicorns online?

It'd be kinda awkward to have a vtuber debut, dance about, sing then stop mid way and say "by the way I have a husband and three kids"

>>102644465
Yeah and there’s plenty of jobs available but unemployment rate is still up. There is a surplus of food in the world but people are still starving. I can’t find a single vtuber that is better than Nimi yet and that’s just life.

>>102644455
She literally had PoV 'walking with her through the city' and 'feeding from a bento box' segments in her 3D lives.

>>102644574
NTA but you're retarded.

1. Social media humiliation for men who just try

2. Genuine fear of having your life ruined over false allegations

3. Men can't compete with women anymore who are being given affirmative action into positions to directly compete with men

4. Women expect men to be financially superior to them despite women taking those positions from men at no fault of men

5. Men's only spaces have been obliterated

6. Masculinity in general has been vilified for over a decade now and produced a crop of young men who have no idea what to do since they see nothing they do as being good enough

7. Women's preferences on dating apps are way more heavily skewed than men's

Do you think that men just collectively got together one day and decided that they were all going to become depressed virgins? Or do you think this phenomenon is actually a reflection of greater social, political and economic trends within society which have hurt them to such a degree that young men are being radicalized?

>>102644709
>A male streamer like Northernlion gets married, starts a family, and no one gives a shit.
Asmongold lost viewers when she started a girl, you have no idea what you're talking about
>Don't pretend like there isn't a double standard.
Why would I care? It's not a double standard because men and women are fundamentally different and are aiming for different audiences and have different traits/skillsets

>>102644455
So it's ok when she does ASMR? It's ok when she sells dating voice packs? That's not selling a parasocial fantasy? Nimi didn't do the latter and is still getting vilified, by the way.

>>102644171
based kroniiposter

>>102644666
>male loneliness epidemic
That's been Japanese thing since the nineties, majority of NEETs are male

>>102644666
>there is no male loneliness epidemic in Japan
Nigger have you never heard of a hikikomori before? Because their numbers have been rising since the pandemic. And yes, I know both men and women can be hikkis, but their populations is still overwhelmingly male.

>>102638681 (OP)
Like this:

>>102644584
>if you don't care about corpo rules then you must be stupid
Says the person who cares about made up corpo rules rather than the direct relationship between a vtuber and her fans.

>>102644709
Different market, different rules. There is no double standard. If the homos (which are in the same market as the girls) announced that they had a fiance then they would face the same amount of backlash.

>>102644764
Male loneliness epidemic (tm) is a term coined in recent years and mostly affects the West. When people use it, they're not talking about what's been happening in Japan. The causes are also quite different

>>102644726
good thing that never happened

>>102642086
same thing happened with nyanners at first and she ended up losing 70% of her pre-boyfriend audience

>>102644714
Do you really think anyone's minds have ever been changed about their own opinions on 4chan? Are you that mentally pliable? Sure I'll have my knowledge on facts changed on 4chan. Like I was an ardent defender of the google style of c++ functions until some dude on /g/ successfully argued why the c style was objectively better. But opinions? I think the beatles suck, and there's legitimately nothing you could type to make me think otherwise.

>>102644813
NTA but Japan is culturally 20 years ahead the west, they just called the male loneliness epidemic the rise of herbivore men https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

We're more than likely going to see the rise of whatever we decide to call hikkis in the next 5 years.

>>102643025
Says who? Idols will continue so long as they're profitable. Usually at 30 they've considered peaked because their fans leave them and they make less money but that's not because of their age it's because of the money. Hags can be idols too.

>>102644769
Nigger if not for specific companies actively barring girls from getting into relationships, and those girls getting found out and punished for it, we would not be in this situation where people deluded themselves into thinking every single idol has to be single. This whole shit starts at a fucking company level, always has. Indie idols (guess what Nimi is) was never beholden to this shit either.

>>102644844
LET’S FUCKING GOOOO

>>102638681 (OP)
Mho about this shit is that, I wouldn't care a single bit if she graduated hololive, redebuted as Nimi and announced this as the first thing ever, before merch, before concert. It would be fine, honorable even. But that was not the case here.

>>102644823
I mean weither Nimi will lose viewers by her reveal is another story altogether. But people are vilifying her just because she is upfront with her future. She said she is in it for the long run and probably does not want to invent stupid excuses for when she has to go on break for a while.

>>102644753
i would respect her more if she just did more gravure/lewd/ASMR content because at least there's an actual equitable transaction. i am getting something i want. as it stands now by buying a membership you are just funding the life of some e-girl and her husband that will stream when she feels like it, when she has time. give me a break.

>>102644214
Kind of weird that she told her audiences "we aren't friend" then she posted that she's getting married on her vtuber account.
I understand that she wants to set some rules or boundaries but then she needs to do it all over again? This is like a window forced update or maybe she's going for dominatrix experience? I would fully understand if this is a dom exp.

Not that anon you were talking to just your pic made me think.

>>102644716
So what? I need to have a decade's worth of understanding about the idol industry to come to the conclusion that the standards they have for idols is unrealistic and unfair? I primarily follow vtubers but I am aware that actual idols face the same tribulations that the community has decided to apply to vtubing.

>>102644370
I mean look at ironmouse. She fucking spoke as if she's the authority in all vtubing related stuff in her interviews and/or interactions with normies. 2020-2023 she's saying shit that's not actually vtubing.

>>102644903
I definitely agree here, I do find the fact that she waited until after the merch run and concert sales to do the announcement quite slimy. But it is what it is and I still love her so… I’m cooked.

>>102644880
Nobody is beholden to it. You can go ahead and do whatever you want, just don't expect support after you do it. You seem to think somebody is holding Nimi at gun point or something.

It also does not start at the company level, otherwise, why aren't more Holos discussing their relationships despite there being no rule?
>inb4 just somehow nearly 100 girls have all, completely independently without any pressure, decided to never bring it up
Why would a company ever even enforce this rule in the first place? Just seems totally arbitrary to do it if that's the case.

>>102644903
We don't when the since when the marriage was set in stone. The proposal itself could have even been after the concert.

Also it was not her concert. 3 others and the staff were involved in its making. Wouldn't it be more selfish to risk their income instead of just her own?

>>102644903
You're absolutely right but they won't like that

>>102644370
Her name is japanese she said what she is

>>102644946
I think you need to actually follow the Idol Industry if you want to act like you have any opinions of worth about it
>the standards they have for idols is unrealistic and unfair
Not dating for a few years while you're young isn't unrealistic or unfair. At least for people who aren't manwhores or sluts
Maybe you should cultivate some actual worth if you think a person's entire life should revolve around dating or fucking

>>102644903
It would have gone down much, much better at a minimum. It comes off as incredibly money hungry and deceitful that she announces it after guaranteeing her income for the next few years.

>>102644903
>>102644971
She wasn't getting married six months ago. She's getting married now. People keep bringing up the day one merch drop and the concert as scumbaggery but I never understood this. You're not being forced to buy her merch, memberships, or tickets. You're not locked out of any content by not purchasing them (except for the concert understandably). Why is this such a big deal. Dyrb her fans are that weak willed? (I know I'll probably get bait responses for that).

>>102644946
No one forced Nimi to call herself an idol, what the fuck are you on?

>>102638780
because thats the definition of an idol in this industry, retard. you keep the kayfabe, you have no dudes

>>102645085
Calm down. Take a breath. Maybe take a walk.

>>102643361
Hiring was done by what feb 21? Bts wasn't three months old and there's no reason to think she even knew what it was also omega was a loser purposely trying to build dogshit

>>102645085
If she was in the mindset that she wanted to announce her marriage, she was plenty in the mindset to announce that she had a long-term partner as well. But didn't.

>>102644943
what nimi wants to actually do is fin dom but she probably has too much guilt or false self-respect to do actual fetish-adjunct work

>>102645085
>She wasn't getting married six months ago. She's getting married now.
Because it implies she's been dating the guy since her time as Fauna unless you think she's jumping into a marriage with a man she just met?

>>102644986
>, just don't expect support after you do it
Hey can you show where Nimi expected people to follow her after the statement. If anything it seems like it was clear she knew she'd be losing people simply from the line
>So if you’re along for the ride with me,
Like she knew some people would hop off it.

>>102641707
>behind the scenes
you said it yourself but you are too retarded to notice

>>102645085
>Dyrb her fans are that weak willed?
A lot of online chuuba fandom seems exceptionally herd mentality yes, youths incapable of expressing their own preferences

>>102645085
Okay that is actually also an extremely fair argument, thank you anon for making me feel better. The past few days of doubt has been fucking me up real bad, Nimi is still my oshi.

>>102645126
How do you fin dom on $5 a month. The entire 6 months she hasn't had supers open. Unless you think asking people to donate to charity is fin dom

>>102645053
>I think you need to actually follow the Idol Industry if you want to act like you have any opinions of worth about it
If I wanted to talk about the intricacies of idol culture maybe. I'm merely making observations based on what I've seen. Do you think that the Minami Minegishi incident was an isolated case, or have other idols in the industry been hurt or abused in one way or another because of these illegal purity contracts?
>Not dating for a few years while you're young isn't unrealistic or unfair. At least for people who aren't manwhores or sluts
Not everyone is a kissless virgin. These kinds of purity contracts are labor law violations in any case.

>>102645169
Then why are you here? You're angry at the people complaining and voicing that she does not have their support anymore despite you agreeing with this sentiment that people have the right to not support her after what she did.

Simply because Nimi accepts that what she did would cause fan upset, doesn't mean fans don't get upset? It's like ironically committing a crime, you are still committed a crime?

>>102644910
She made a stupid business decision that's liable to harm her in the long run after the "own the chuds" tourists from Twitter and Bluesky move on. Every time vTubers do something like this, it severely hampers their growth and they carve off a big chunk of their audience.

I don't know why these women do this. If it's too "stressful" for them they should either take up fleshtubing or get off the internet and get a normal job.

>>102645215
hello, merch? open your wallets!

>>102645119
Because a long-term partner would not be going to affect her content output as much as settling down and having a family. She will probably take breaks for wedding preparations and when she is having children. That's what she is giving heads up for.

>>102645241
>after the "own the chuds" tourists from Twitter and Bluesky move on.
Fucking lol you're so mad

>>102645241
May be true or not. But being stupid is not being evil. That's what people are making her out to be.

>>102645183
So if it was kept behind closed doors you'd be okay with it? Are you sure that's the position you want to hold? "Date all you want, just don't tell because that will ruin the illusion that you're my wife"? That is a few paces shy of actual, unironic cuckholdry.

>>102645241
she doesn't need growth anymore the announcement was basically soft retirement

>>102639855
uncultured baka

>>102645254
Marriage does not imply settling down and having a family.

>She will probably take breaks for wedding preparations and when she is having children. That's what she is giving heads up for.
So? Why do fans need to know the specific reason? Why not just say "Hey a big change happened in my life, so for a while I might have to reschedule or cancel streams on an ad hoc basis"?

Nimi is an idol. You can continue to cope and seethe about it, but the title will forever stay there to her fans who are the only ones that matter here to begin with.

That stiff movement from nimi is because her husband fuck her everyday
Also an awful singer because too much deepthroat

>it's ok if she cheats on me as long as I never find out!
Do you faggots really

>>102645241
Why are you analyzing this like you're their financial agent or something? Bro, you're not on the damn team lol

>>102645224
>If I wanted to talk about the intricacies of idol culture maybe. I'm merely making observations based on what I've seen.
Yeah and your observations are worthless and shit
>Not everyone is a kissless virgin.
I imagine the average idol fan that these girls are pandering to are ikemen studs, sure. It's like I'm talking to a retard
If you CHOOSE to take a job where you're expected not to entangle with the opposite sex, that's your choice as a person. The average career lasts 5 years. Why don't we stop pretending that this is anything other than you pushing your own agenda like the tourist that you are?
Also spare me the
>I've been watching since Kizuna Ai
thing that all of you fags try to fall back on any time you're called out for being tourists. It's like I'm talking to an AI chatbot instead of a human being

>>102645119
That could apply to the many vtubers in the space who have secret boyfriends as well. Are you holding them to a similar standard?

>>102645362
I don't oshi Nimi, I unironically oshi Shondo and I've been following her since she was a 14 year old girl who made suicide pact ASMR. I literally don't care if she's dating Michael or whatever, I just like watching Shondo grow and accomplish things because it's like watching my own daughter grow up. And I think she's funny. But I wouldn't want to start talking about her boyfriends and cocks in front of me, like any good father wouldn't.

>>102645224
>These kinds of purity contracts are labor law violations in any case.
At least in japan/korea those contracts are made all the time. if it were up to me, being an idol would ban you from relationships for the rest of your life. That way we'd get more quality and less quantity

>>102645304
did anyone actually call her evil here, it's just cynical and sleazy e-girl behavior owing to probably what her actual personality is.

>>102645407
Nta but of course, yes. Absolutely. Are you stupid?

>>102645407
No? Why would I?

You pick one or the other. You either are upfront about it from the very start, or you fucking hide that shit like a body in the attic so that nobody will ever know. Doing these half-measures feels like they want to have their cake and eat it too. There's no reason your fans need to know about your marriage unless you are going to be talking about that and your partner as a new shift in your content.

>>102645319
>why not
I don't think you're her manager, and fortunately i'd say.

>>102645265
Nope, I haven't watched her since Advent debuted. It's just the same old pattern repeating itself. Whenever something like this happens, tourists from Twitter, Reddit, and Bluesky come in and elevate the vTuber's numbers for a couple of weeks while the drama is ongoing. Then they fuck off to the next thing and the vTuber is left scratching her head, wondering where the audience went.

>>102645308
If I am watching Mickey Mouse cartoons, I don't want Mickey's voice actor to suddenly start talking about his money problems, or how his wife is cheating on him, or how his kid is failing all his classes at school. I want to watch a cartoon.

How is this so hard to understand? You're just being obtuse.

>>102645328
thanks for the exactly nothing declaration, you can go back to your hole, holotower or the nimi nightmare reddit now

>>102645497
Neither are you, so why are you speculating on why she did things?

>>102645437
>did anyone actually call her evil here
she's not like serial killer evil, but probably above serial rapist evil

>>102645436
>At least in japan/korea those contracts are made all the time
Yeah but most of the time they're technically unenforceable because many of the clauses there within tend to excessively infringe on personal freedom or human rights, such as the right to privacy or the right to form relationships. Dunno about how SK does it, but this is how it goes in Japan afaik. There have been many high profile cases about companies trying to take idols to court over purity violations only for the court to side with the idols in most cases.

>>102645438
>>102645480

>>102645428
>oshi's Shondo
>actually bought into the Michael shit
I don't even know what to say here

>>102645514
So if in 6 months Nimi is still dusting Holo's are you going to put a gun in your mouth?

>>102645536
>There have been many high profile cases about companies trying to take idols to court over purity violations only for the court to side with the idols in most cases.
That sucks, I hope they get their shit together

>>102645597
the numbersfags are usually not wrong, that's their whole reason for living is to prove people wrong with numbers instead of fruitless arguing.

>>102645436
These contracts are essentially meaningless since any company that tries to extricate penalty fees gets their motion overturned since the Japan Labor Standards Law prohibits contracts from imposing monetary penalties for breach of contract, which could be relevant to idol contracts that include penalties for violating no-dating clauses or other restrictions. Firing over these contracts is also a no go since that violates a different labor law.

>>102645609
Courts are going to shit everywhere layely

>>102645241
>>102645514
You don't know shit. The reason why both Nyanners and Veibae's numbers went to shit wasn't because they got boyfriends, it's because they got boyfriends and then drastically changed their content (including said boyfriends in everything) and/or just stopped streaming for long periods of time. That's how it always happens. If their content stayed the same they would've kept the same numbers. But instead it shifted. Nimi seems to have 0 indication of a content shift, she didn't even fucking gender her partner. That shit will mostly be kept quiet and she'll stream as usual.

>>102645527
One thing is speculating
Another one is manipulating the communication, think that would actually disprove anything.

>>102645595
I don't buy or sell. I literally don't care. I know about the monkey on the ceiling. I know about the discord messages. I know what she looks like. I know her full name. Fuck I even know where she lives because she was much more retarded when she was younger.

I just like Shondo because she's funny, she's has a similar worldview to me and I've enjoyed watching her go through her ups and downs and continue aspire to be more for like 6 years now. If Shondo can get through what she goes through, I can get through my day too.
She's more idol than any other vtuber I know.

>>102645656
>their whole reason for living is to prove people wrong with numbers instead of fruitless arguing
LMAO this is the biggest delusion in this thread and that's saying something. Visit /#/ and have your worldview shattered.

>>102645686
What the fuck are you even saying at this point?

>>102645665
Absolutely insane cope my man

>>102645656
Yeah numberfags are so logical and down to earth until someone like nimi or saba gets good numbers and they either ignore that, call it a statistical anomaly, or just accuse them of botting.

>>102645689
Your favorite vtuber is a spiteful jealous whore who shit talks her "friends' under the guise of a joke like a goddamn snake.

>>102645597
>still
NTA but she isn't even "dusting Holo's" right now, what were you saying? Unless you meant "dusting (some) Holo(EN)" which will happen but that wasn't what the other shitposter guy said.

>>102645656
lmao the numberfags are wrong all the time. Thats why they argue in numbers instead of anywhere that you can read a post history. Numbers argued that Saba wouldn't be anywhere near as successful as Gura. They said Lumi was done after the oblivion incident. They argued that ID would grow and grow.

>>102645689
Did she not already explain the Michael stuff to you, her fans? So why are you saying
>I don't really care if she was lying or not
if she's your oshi that you support so much. Genuinely I don't understand this thought process

>>102645719
See you in two weeks I guess.

>>102645771
lol

>>102645743
NTA but Nimi getting dicked down, fucked, made to moan on another man's cock and eventually going to be impregnated is really fucking funny, isn't it? It's easily the funniest thing that's happened in Vtubing this year besides maybe the >Gaou losing his career due to fucking children
story

>>102645690
if you want to contend that nimi won't lose audience in the same way as kronii and nyanners then make your argument or shut up.

>>102645665
Nyanners lost viewers because he backstabbed 4chan where most of her viewers were from. The boyfriend stuff came much later

>>102645803
She will lose a ton, but plenty of cucks will stay around. They're a pretty big audience now

>>102645732
>>102645751
>antis saba
>gives an iota of a rat's ass about phase
>pro ID
Holy fuck the catalog has a tear in reality negaVT is invading

yeah bro won't change a thing, hope you like those scenarios they make out to sell you shit while she's being dicked down, cuck. lmaooo

>>102645803
Number chimps predicted that Nimi would fall two months after debut. It's been six and she's as strong as ever. Had a kino concert and everything. Announced that she was getting married and still got 12k+ on an Uma stream. Seems like the facts speak for themselves. Need 2 more months?

>>102645829
She first lost her viewers when she literally turned on them all, then she lost a lot again with the boyfriend.

>>102645716
Just pointing out the fragility of your argument, using the "why not"

>>102645866
>Announced that she was getting married and still got 12k+ on an Uma stream.
C'mon anon, don't be a fag. That stream was going to do well just due to the drama buff (and let's not pretend getting married isn't drama
The only way you're actually going to see how her career goes is giving it time and to claim otherwise is just dishonest

>>102645215
we need to make findoms for charity a thing. I'll let you lick my boots clean if you pay 10 bucks for a prostate cancer lab

>>102645480
>you fucking hide that shit like a body in the attic so that nobody will ever know
Nah, you should never hide it. People deserve to know so they can move on to watch someone who deservers it

>>102645856
>antis saba
Gura's biggest antis have been numberfags. They were praying on her downfall when she redubted as Saba, but their smiles quickly went crooked when Saba hit a million DORYYYYYA and they began coping and making those tinfoil hate edits. Last I saw they were accusing her of being botted and laughing at her slowly decreasing ccv.

>>102645751
Are we looking at different /#/?

>>102644832
>I think the beatles suck, and there's legitimately nothing you could type to make me think otherwise
Why the fuck would you go to a forum place specifically made for people that enjoy the beetles then? Mental retardation?

>>102638681 (OP)
That's what you get for being an EN tourist

>>102645900
Okay. How long will her dramabuff last? When do you want me to grudgepost you exactly?

>>102645902
i see that and raise you nimi charity drive JOI videos that support doctors without borders

>>102644753
2016 question
>are traps gay
2026 question
>if a married woman pretends to feed you a homemade bento, who is getting cucked

>>102645956
Give it around 4 to 6 months

>>102645956
>How long will her dramabuff last?
Dunno, I'm not an expert on streaming careers
>When do you want me to grudgepost you exactly?
You can grudgepost as soon as you lick Nimi's boyfriend's fresh cum out of her soaking wet pussy

>>102645665
>Nimi seems to have 0 indication of a content shift
I wouldn't be so confident if I were you, I don't see the point in announcing it if you ain't going to at least talk about it on stream

>>102645942
Ah another classic numbers argument. It wasn't ME in numbers therefore it wasn't ANY of us

>>102645986
Interesting. So a year in, around the same timeframe when most content creators naturally plateau. Alright, pal.

>>102645948
What? I like beetles they're cool.

>>102645743
Love her all the same. She's my little bitch of a daughter.

>>102645753
Well there's just no point speculating.

If she says there's no Michael, I can't prove or disprove it. There's no point arguing about it and so I can't prove if it was a lie and even if it was, the intent of such a lie. Lying isn't inherently bad.

If there is a Michael and she just genuinely made a mistake by letting the name slip and does want to keep her romantic life separate from FallenShadow, covering it up and lying about it is okay to me. It indicates a level of care that she doesn't want to upset people which openly spilling the beans would cause for literally no reason. It's not like she would break up with him and post the proof of it to recoup her fans (would be based if she did though). It would be a very different story if she just one day openly admitted it and then decided to backtrack it and started Stalin-ing people over it. That would indicate a level of malice that I just wouldn't accept from her.

If Micahel doesn't exist and she genuinely just pulled the name from somewhere else, then she's telling the truth but I cannot verify that fact at all. So it doesn't matter to me.

So either way, it doesn't matter. She made a mistake. She's a young girl who is learning.

>>102645959
every time you ejaculate you pay 10$ to a charity, a 24h endurance stream
fixing world problems is that easy

>>102645889
You do understand calling my question fragile, when it is was literally just a your statement wearing a different colored shirt, means you admit your own point was fragile?

>>102646027
>a year in
She has been around for almost 4 years

>>102645798 (Me)
Sorry, I was wrong.
VShojo blowing up and imploding completely in the space of 24 hours is funnier than the Gaou stuff

>2025
>Mori and Kronii are good now
>Fauna is no longer CGDCT
>saplings are now sapcucks for real

>>102645926
I disagree. I'm watching a vtuber, not a human. Is it better that they stay single? Yes. But if I'm none the wiser, I don't care

>>102646002
Did you even watch yesterday's stream? How she ignored 90% of the chat trying to get her to talk about it? This is literally how she functions. She did the same as the graduation announcement, acted like she didn't just say she's fucking quit.

>>102646086
Nimi hasn't lmao

>>102646117
So if your wife cheated on you, would you rather know and break up or stay ignorant for the rest of your life?

>>102646070
i'll raise you again: nimi government sponsored stream, you pay the EU 75 euro for your JO license to fund NATO

>>102646165
It's like you niggers learnt to read yesterday
>. I'm watching a vtuber, not a human.

>>102646027
She isn't a new content creator and even if you want to treat Nimi as a new VTuber, she was already plateau-ing before this (that's why she got that 6K stream the other day and her average CCV dropped to 4views level now and then despite being solidly 5views before)

>>102646165
vtuber isn't my wife lol

>>102646190
Unless you're watching Neuro, you're watching a human

>>102646195
She had around 12k yesterday.

>>102646238
Are we pretending yesterday's stream was business as usual and not inflated by the marriage news?
Christ Almighty. She won't be getting 12k a month from now unless she announces that she got knocked up or something

>>102646205
Humans don't have animals ears or super powers retardchama, do you even know what roleplaying is?

>>102646204
no shit, it's an analogy

>>102646205
>Fiction is reality
Seek help

>>102646272
implying she already isn't knocked up and is waiting to use this for membership bux

>>102646304
The streamer is fictional? Take your meds
>>102646292
And who or what is doing the roleplaying, autismo-chan?

>>102646272
>not inflated
Honestly I expected her numbers to be way higher, at least 3 times higher considering her announcement post got like 160k likes kek
The fact she only got 12k ccv that dwindled as time went was pathetic.

>>102646119
I'm just saying you should tone down your expectation

>>102646238
>now and then
Did you miss this part, anon?
Moreover, Uma Musume is a buffed game and even those like Bae or Irys who weren't nearly as popular as Fauna could peak at 12K or higher without bots. If anything, you'd expect her to get higher than that with an essentially open starting timeslot last night

>>102646117
>>102646204
>>102646292
Why is it better for her to be single then?

>>102646349
I don't give a shit who or what is doing the roleplay faggotchama, that's the entire point. She could be an AI for all I care so long as she stays in character and entertains me.

>>102646349
>The streamer is fictional? Take your meds
Yes Nimi Nightmare is a fictional character anon. I can't go out into the real world and see her.

Do you think the characters in movies are real people too?

>>102646349
>who or what is doing the roleplaying, autismo-chan
the line is blurred, so anything that vtuber says and you don't like can be brushed off as "act" and any act you like, you can believe is her real self

>>102646402
Nimi Nightmare was the one who announced her marriage though, retard. Or was it someone else? Kek you can't even keep your bullshit consistent

>>102646367
Because I like the tiniest prospect that she would date me because I would just in general prefer all women all over the world bar my own mother and sister be single so that I have the maximum possible chances of finding a mate of my choice.

Autistic explanation enough for you?

Cucks and trolls all the way down

>>102646420
So Nimi isn't actually married and she's just doing an NTR roleplay for her fanbase?

>>102646362
>Uma Musume is a buff game
>FWMC barely got 6k
>Bae barely got 4k until she started getting botted
>Bring up IRyS who was botted
Next you're going to compare a stream where people were whaling on the gatcha for 40 minutes to someone who did 5 minutes of gacha with f2p shit and then jumped straight into career
Jesus fucking Christ

>>102646427
Correct. Which she shouldn't have done because it degrades that fiction-reality barrier that vtubing enables, please refer back to my original point here >>102645480

>>102646524
Oh, it's a #monkey Sapling.
LMAO

>>102646451
no i actually believe that if she sold me gravure/porn of herself, a fair transaction where i actually get something i want we would be on good terms again. if you're paying for a membership with the information you know now you are nuts

go back to your cage chimps

>>102646524
>Any number I don't like is botted
This is what nu-/#/fags look like

>>102646559
It would take at least full softcore nudity for me to watch again

>>102646367
She wants to be a normalfag nanny in cosplay it's fine who cares
Having life obligations other than your job is a problem for her betters though

Ahh I love a good internet slapfight

>>102646623
considering nimi is now simply another e-girl among thousands rather than an idol it should be something she should consider once the reddit audience starts to move on to some other flavor of the month

AHAHAHAHAH SHE'S NOT YOUR FRIEND NAPKEKS

>>102646622
>numbers I like? natural
>numbers I don't? botted
>the past? irrelevant
>the future? what I say it is

>>102638780
Everyone just assumes idols have to stay single, it's like an unspoken rule

>>102646082
You're just pointing out a different communication just because you didn't like the reason. You haven't disproven the reason. That's the problem of your argument. It's useless to think about "why not she did this??" and you just change how she communicated something. That's not the point.

>>102646696
yeah that's precisely it, she's not my friend. we're not friends. i'm a customer. since she is a vendor of herself she should sell me custom fetish videos. QED

>>102646801
How you communicate ideas to people is important. It will heavily dictate how people react to them.

>>102646867
Sure but saying "why didn't she do that???" it's not important for what we're talking about. It's like changing the point.

>>102646994
The entire topic of discussion is whether or not she should have announced her marriage, retard. The entire topic is about her methods and style of communication

>>102646696
It's possible to have a one sided friendship just like it's possible to have a once sided crush

>>102642525
Redditor thinks he'll get updoots for clapping back with a long rant le epic style

>>102642772
Tourist was used way before 2016 to describe summerfags

>>102645514
>If I am watching Mickey Mouse cartoons, I don't want Mickey's voice actor to suddenly start talking about his money problems, or how his wife is cheating on him, or how his kid is failing all his classes at school. I want to watch a cartoon.
>How is this so hard to understand? You're just being obtuse.
I like this logic, it reminds me of the English voice actor situation LMAOOO they include their personal lives into their job.

What will anon feels when nimi announced she is pregnant?

>>102647331
I'll probably just laugh and start cuckposting

>>102646097
>Mori and Kronii are good now

What does it mean? Did I miss a page?

>>102646427
But why disguised it as a lore drop?

>>102647331
Sapcucks will use it to fuck their hands while thinking about it.

>>102647404
>disguised it as a lore drop
I think she was just shitposting LMAO. She's getting dicked down by her fiance

>>102645609
>what the fuck why aren't courts enforcing slave contracts

>>102647331
9 months in I might watch a stream of hers for the first time just to see if we're getting a live birth

>>102647470
Oh wow imagine while typing and sending that tweet >She's getting dicked down by her fiance