And she said that she had a long-term contract with sponsors and so she didn't want to "make them sad" by leaving in the middle of it

https://x.com/ksononair/status/1948328673771221498

>>102646560 (OP)
>muh sponsors
Fakeass bitch. Go ahead and churn more niji hate campaign flames based on 4chan rrats while you don't get paid.
Once a redditdragon, always a redditdragon.

I kinda get that, but why stay quiet as more people are hired into the same situation? Truth is, everyone was just hoping the next hire would right the ship

>>102646560 (OP)
Just not saying anything bad and straight up deepthroating the corpo are two very different things.

>>102646560 (OP)
Kson is the dumbest bitch in vtubing who is butthurt because all her carreer choices were disastrous for her long term and anyone who denies this is a white knight.>>102646560 (OP)

>>102646560 (OP)
It doesn't really fit her character. She always wanted more money, she wouldn't have accepted not getting paid.

>>102646560 (OP)
Sponsors?

The only sponsor I know is the Tenga sex toy shit right? I'm sure they will probably understand...

>>102646735
It makes sense when you look at her analytics. She gets jack shit from donations and views these days. Most of her income was probably coming from vshojo and she was desperately hoping she'd get paid. Also she'd never admit her choices were stupid.

my company sucks dicks but there's company dicks I gotta suck, truly american

>>102646560 (OP)
>I WANT MONEY IF I QUIT MY SPONSOR SUE ME
okay

What sponsor? And why quitting Vshojo got anything to do with it? She will lose the sponsor if she quit Vshojo? It's not like she can't be Kson anymore if she quit Vshojo

>>102646560 (OP)
Is she trying to play the victim again?

>>102646560 (OP)
Gunpla must be expensive these days

None of that explains why she would shill it so hard, I don't really care either way, I just don't appreciate virtue signaling when she was clearly not against it when it mattered.

>>102646560 (OP)
this makes no sense lol. she's just reaching for excuses

Did Vshojo even have any sponsor?

>>102646560 (OP)
>I didn't leave because I wanted to keep the sponsor's trust
I mean, that's general business practice but I think most sponsors and people would be okay with you leaving because the money is not being transferred to you lol. Just feels like deflection here.

>>102647033
>None of that explains why she would shill it so hard
She's petty. She was doing it to spite cover. Funny how that turned out. She didn't know how good she had it.
Now she's a 3 view with no sponsors, no merch and not enough SC income to be listed on the monthly rankings.

>>102647178
>She didn't know how good she had it.
NTA but remember when she saw how abysmal the % split from Nijisanji was at the time? She appreciated Cover and probably VShojo then.

>>102646961
always

She should shut the fuck up because her victim con game was already working.

>>102646789
>"Also she'd never admit her choices were stupid."
She kinda did?
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1947661332524028139

This whole shit of shitting on her for supposed being naive kinda pissed me off, honestly. She stated that 'no cons' BS wayback in 2022 where VShojo 'had' some integrity to at least abide by their contract/words. But then came in this year where they pretty much just shat the bed, and Gun'ran' ran and gone awol.

>>102647465
didn't vei say that they didn't get paid for sponsor stuff in 2021-2023? they certainly were not good in 2022 either then. in fact, they probably never have been good judging by everything

>>102647465
Thats not admitting wrong. That's a full blown melty.

>>102646560 (OP)
Kson is the fakest whore ever and her fans are some of the most pathetic vermin on the planet

>>102647178
But she also implied that she was at least on friendly terms with Cover (sued people to defend them, still talk to and like Yagoo, etc.). Why would she send mixed messages?

>>102646560 (OP)
I don't believe a word
Nobody stays silent and keep working for a company after not being paid for 3/4 of a year

>>102647465
My guess is she wanted it to work out so badly that she just let it happen, hoping it’d resolve itself eventually. Granted, I don’t buy into the excuse; something about it just seems too lacking in substance, especially given how supposedly friendly they were with one another behind the scenes. There’s no way they didn’t talk about not getting paid.

>butthurt monkey noises
>check her twitter
>Taiwan event
naruhodo

>>102647656
She still got money from subscriptions, millions.

So how come all these people new Vshojo was shitty and falling apart but still tried to recruit people into Gunrun's scam?

>>102646879
Where's the issue? You wanna work for free and get sued?

>>102647894
that's what's so gross with Kson in particular. she convinced Henya and Michael to join lol

>>102647893
I can't believe there's people who still buy her bullshit at this point

>>102646560 (OP)
she did finished expedition 33
shame she didn't get the point
"for those who come after" eh, kson?

>>102647936
Honestly if mike wasn't so menhera and stuck around for longer this whole operation would have not gone on for so long. Because imagine her meltdown from just one missing payment

>>102647894
Perhaps shit hit the fan at differing degrees of speed and intensity. Someone had to know about this without it being more broadly understood fully, not that I think it’d be her.
I highly doubt all of them would just accept not being paid for so long.

Imagine a timeline where she didn't say the word "Taiwan"... we'd still be getting reddit tier lists to this day...

>>102646560 (OP)
So it was about money after all

>>102646560 (OP)
Sponsors>>>>>fans, coworkers and subs apparently

Im convinced if ironmouse didnt break the dam kson would not bave said anything

>>102646961
Give it till monday and she will lame china and make up a murder threats.

>>102646961
Women never hold accountability for anything so yeah

>>102646989
Let's see these unopened boxes pointed out by Delty.
>mg hi nu ver ka
$91.78
>mg psycho zaku ver ka
MUH DICK. Also, $137.12
>1/100 f00
$83.99
>another psycho zaku ka
I don't blame her, that shit's tight. But yeah, $137.12
>pg unleashed rx78
$269.95

Gunpla is expensive these days. It's always been though. Also, that's only 5 out of the 16 listed. And she has a bunch more.

>>102647590
Anon, she is a woman.

>>102647841
Ironmouse knew 100% and has for a long time.

>>102647874
This is your average Kson simp in 2025.
Even after everything that happened post hololive, they still think that only Chinks dislike her.
Delusional betanigger simps

>>102648046
She supposedly mentioned in the last days on stream that she indeed not only didn't get paid for months but was also got flat told to her face that they only brought her in because they wanted to parade her fame as an ex-holo to bring fans. Hell I know if its true but it's probably a lie, the menhera meltdown would have been glorious.
To me she just saw the signs and jumped ship, take one to know one after all.

>>102647894

>>102646989
a perfect grade can cost around 500 USD to 600 USD gunpla is about as cheap as warhammer meaning not cheap at all

>>102646560 (OP)
Thats a very japanese answer, so i believe her.

>>102647178
Coco left right before HoloJP had another massive boom, this time in the form of sponsors and merch opportunities. She came from the Hololive era when SC was king and the main form of income for most Holos.

>>102647992
What a retarded post. Even the game stopped caring about that line not even halfway in when the paintVR addicted bitch was not saying it while writing in the journal.

>>102646560 (OP)
that why you never trust a women.
sad for them but it is what it is

>>102648566
unless you only build 144 scale then its rather cheap to get into

>>102648070
*CLAP CLAP*
Next payment delay!

We must trust her, our relationship with kson is build on trust.

>>102648070
The best part is, she never said Taiwan (but it's still number one)

>>102646560 (OP)
>I didn't want to cause trouble for the sponsors so I kept pretending like the actual black company I worked for that wasn't paying people, was silencing them from speaking out, and was stealing charity money was the best company ever
So she kept shilling for Vshojo because she didn't want to jeopardize the money she was making from all the sponsorships she obtained through them.

>>102648147
Of course not. Ironmouse knew the entire time but never said a thing because she was benefiting from it, something happened behind the scenes that was going to expose her and that's why she took the first step. Mowtendoo must have known too and that's why he bailed early. I have no proof but it all makes sense.

Kson left because vshojo offered her a hefty sum of cash to jump ship, it got nothing to do with the China Taiwan shit. Proof? Just look at Haachama, she's still alive and streaming in Hololive. And look at Pikamee, she got poached by Kson and left VOMS, and she gave some stupid reason about harry potter and shiet and poof she's in vshojo out of the blue. Woman lies, every tuckin time.

>>102648908
women have no backbone and will follow any order or whoever have power while avoiding every consequence for their action

>>102646560 (OP)
>Long term contract
Just say you wanted sponsorship money while it lasted Kson. No need for excuses.

>>102646560 (OP)
Umm sweety, there's still an ongoing sponsor here, please do not betray your Taiwan sponsor and attend this fan meeting event, okay?

>>102649137
Yea she's attending as herself (3D) in Kson we trust taiwanbros!

chudson

>>102646560 (OP)
Women and accountability don’t mix well. Just say you wanted money woman.

>>102649137
>ironmouse cancelled her appearance
>Kson is still attending and she's flying to Taiwan
So how does this shit work? They paid Vshojo to get the girls for the event and now they have to pay Kson another amount for her to attend?

Another penny in the "They were all taking a slice of the money Vshojo stole from donations" jar.

>>102646759
She is in a whole yakuza game anon lol, 2 actually

>>102649369
Does that even count as a sponsorship? That’s more of a role, no?

>>102649369
Wait, so ryugagotoku studio had to pay vshojo to get kson in the game?

I love it when Kson suffers.
What were we talking about?

>>102649301
Yeah I don't see any other way for all of this to make sense.
All of these official "my stoy" explaantions don't fit together with basic human behavior and even less in vshojo where everyone (pretended) to be super mega bestie friends forever but apparently never talked about money or missing payments?

>>102647656
anon almost every wagey is being exploited while making way less in a year than she made in a month during that time. like most people she's guilty of running on autopilot

>>102646560 (OP)
>>102646604
>>102646671
>>102648670

>kson explained why she hadn't said anything bad about VShojo in the past year

>>102647590
She's in a bad state of mind right now and extremely prideful. I'm not taking much of what she's saying outside of Vshojo seriously.

>>102649286
probably ironmouse was going to be paid to vshojo EN which is dead and she's too opsec to have them pay her directly, and kson was going to be paid to vshojo JP, which as the JP CEO said, has been working on redirecting all the sponsors to the talents themselves

>>102646560 (OP)
Conveniently, not betraying sponsors also works out in her financial favor. Betraying the fans and other vtubers isn't a big deal though.

>>102649716
So vshojoJP is splitting from vshojoEN?
Kson is still in vshojoJP now?

>>102646560 (OP)
>WAAAAAA SHE SPOKE WELL OF THE COMPANY THAT HAS JUST ENTERED WAAAAAAAA.
She talked about why she waited so long to leave (literally says it right there) and it was because she had commitments to her sponsors, anyone knows you shouldn't fuck with who gives you money.
Nijizhang should stop intern making this vshojo situation something about her.
It's pathetic.

>>102646560 (OP)
dumbass grifter who dragged others into her situation

>>102646560 (OP)
Wow, so I guess the sponsor doesnt need to know they are sponsoring a black company, really good PR there Kson

>>102648566
You know Warhammer is a board game right lmao

Uh oh free vpoachjo melty.

>>102646560 (OP)
so she did it for money. Again.

>>102650320
For his fans in Taiwan.
That's why the Chinese are so angry

>>102648046
You thought that was crazy? Shondo just said that one of the requirements for her to join is forced male collabs

The fact that they hired Mike without doing background check was baffling and I'm honestly sad to know that VShojo could have been broken sooner if she stayed just a bit longer

>>102650425
Anon the first thing Mike did when she left vshojo was to collaborate with 2 men.

>>102650089
yes but its still building and painting expensive models for the board game that's how it makes money

>>102650528
Let's not kid ourselves anon. She avoided males like plague before the mafu drama hit her. I remember that time Vshojo had a collab with males and she wanted no part of it

>>102649886
too lazy to look up the specific logs but basically the JP CEO said he was going to try to move what he could to go to the talents themselves (as indies)

>>102650425
Forced male collabs in a company that employed 0 men for the longest time, and in the end only ever employed 1 man? It's literally got "women" in the name. That requirement doesn't even make sense

>>102650686
You act like there are no males OUTSIDE of Vshojo for them to collab

>>102646560 (OP)
Kson is so delusional that she is fighting the burner accounts now. We lost her bros

>>102650944
The point is why the fuck would a company mandate you to collab with people completely unrelated to the company, for no reason other than to collab. That's literally the most retarded policy you could have. Just force your talents to essentially advertise people unrelated to the company.

>>102650975
>legal actions take a very very very long time
Odd how more that length of time wasn’t spent in convincing newer candidates to avoid joining, given insufficiencies for years prior to recruitments,

They all stayed silent while new vtubers were being pulled into the cult, weak asses.

>>102650425
>Mike was lying
Wow. Sunlight is warm. Water is wet. And OP is a faggot. Got any more news for us champ?

>>102650990
I guess having a girl who would avoid males no matter what when they poached Kuro and made attempts in poaching other 2 Niji males wouldn't create a good PR image huh

>>102650425
Shondo also lies out of her ass to hide her actual male interactions (her boyfriend from when she started streaming, the Michael thing) and is more troublesome than Vei, who literally had Vshojo staff on 4chan shitposting about her negatively so she would quit. Why does anyone believe that Shondo would get a offer?

>>102650975
So she now claims to being in a legal figh with vshojo while she was still with vshojo?
Hard to believe.

>>102646560 (OP)
Really she was just high off of her own farts still after gloating that she was in the best corpo ever after joining.
By the time she realised something might have been bad about it she'd already gone too deep to avoid looking like a dumb bitch about it.
Regardless she looks like a dumb bitch

>>102647936
>and Michael to join
To be honest she deserves everything bad coming at her

>>102646961
Vshojo is (was) a corpo filled with victims that needed twitter to defend them all the time

>>102651079
>convincing newer candidates to avoid joining
They've kept everything a secret from her since she accidentally leaked Henya's name before her debut. lol

>>102646560 (OP)
I mean Vshojo owned Kson money for almost a year so it would explain why she was more uptight. Wouldn't have Project Melody known by now how many vtubers got screwed over trying to come in if vtubers talk behind the scenes? You honestly telling me she or the oldest members had no power?

>>102646560 (OP)
So she knew something was amiss and let Vshoujo do their bad thing while she was raking as much money as she could before bailing out.
Nice morals Kson.

>>102651391
she literally got no money for a year

>>102651391
What money? She didn't get paid for almost a year

>>102650425
>forced male collabs
Uh? Talent freedom?

>do nothing
>your enemies defeat themselves

>>102651278
There’s still no way the talents didn’t talk amongst one another and discover suspicious activity, unless they just are that retarded. If Vei and Silvervale seemingly found out, then how did the rest just stay all fine and dandy for years afterwards?

>>102651453
>>102651428
Doesn't she take money directly from some sources? Or does everything has to pass to Vshoujo?
Because if it is like that then that is not how they advertised with their talent freedom

>>102650975
>a very long time
And yet she praises vshojo everyday

Every vshojo talent is coming out with stories that even since 2022 the company was absolute garbage, it just makes the entire "NO CONS" insanely more funny.
Makes me wonder how the other girls reacted to that stream and wondered if she was being held at gunpoint to do it

>>102651428
>she literally got no money for a year
She is flaunting her wealth everyday on twitter, no money for a year?

>>102650975
Likely one of the Phase tribalist trying to win their "culture war", likely used to being a /pol/tard too if they are focusing in on this. The bigger picture is if 22 vtuber corpos have shut down including, Idol EN and Vshojo then Phase is in a lot of trouble. I would put the energy in making sure Phase is funded properly or at least buy some more damn merch, one from as many of the Phase girls as I could afford.

>>102651453
All the vshojos still made money from donations and supscriptions. All the money talk is about merchandise and the donation to the charity.

>>102651527
because all the big names were in on it from the start

Unless she is contractually obligated there's no excuse for her to have continued to eat Vshojo's ass on stream.

>>102649286
Kson will never betray taiwan bros even if she has to pay it out of her own pocket. Her whole lore is CHINA EVIL, strong together

>>102651838
kek

>>102651838
She was sponsored to stream in a China platform (i forgot the name) and then there's no one watching there. Its all about money for kson.

>>102651540
They still take money from YouTube sources. So yeah, she was still making money while according to >>102650975 she was shilling and pretending that everything was ok for a long time.

>>102650975
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>s-so s-shut up
OMG LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Babble to real speech:
The reason is money. She wanted money.

>>102651938
Its called Mildom, website shutdown @ 2024
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildom

>>102650667
Anon do your repetitions please.
She literally collaborated with 2 malevtubers ( one blue haired and one blonde) 1 week after leaving vshojo.
It was funny because of the irony of the situation and the shitstorm her fans made.

>>102651391
This but even moreso Ironmouse.

>>102652003
ohnonono taiwan bros don't look!

>>102651540
So again, Kson was in for the money and didn't care about the rest until Vshoujo couldn't hide their skeletons.

>>102651527
>There’s still no way the talents didn’t talk amongst one another
What? It's extremely uncommon to talk about finances. NOBODY does that shit.

>yeah guys this has been going on for over a year, and I totally was gonna reveal it all this month anyway!

>>102652003
>make up bullshit company and platform
>wave some money infront of the whore to make her dance on stage to assert dominance
>mission successful, close the platform
Based

>>102652136
The website sucks and no one is watching there so it goes bankrupt. China number..... last......

Seeing Kson suffer while the Holo JP girls are happy makes me day bright

>>102652003
the funny thing is she even promoted mildom and say it's a better platform for newcomer, kek.

>>102652117
Shame that there are not enough people calling out this behavior. Twitter and Reddit don’t have the balls to do it.

>Kson arguing with nobodies on twitter
Kwab

>>102652117
>I totally was gonna reveal it all this month anyway!
The "I was about to leave at the end of the month" shit is so pathetic. It only convinced me further that everyone knew and everyone was gaining from it until something happened that made them bail asap.

>>102652221
Twitterfags are doing it right now and she's responding to them

>>102652267
Yea? What were they gaining, anon? What did they gain from not being paid? What was the gain, anon?

>>102652136
ching chong ping sama... I kneel.

>>102652117
#AlwaysBelieveWomen

>>102646560 (OP)
>Scammed SEGA into putting Ironmouse into yakuza

>>102652265
That's when you realize she knew shit was brewing in but decided to shut up. There is nothing to gain by arguing against nobodies unless she felt identified for being called out.

I legit don't get why kson quit Holo anyway.
you can argue that the situation was unprecedented and the methods Cover tried to use to mitigate the damage and protect her were ineffective, but it's not like Cover /weren't/ on her side. They shutdown an entire branch and market to try and protect her after all.
Idk, maybe it's just the clarity of hindsight but it honestly does feel like it would have all turned out fine if she just toughed it out and stayed. Holofans were always on her side and were fighting the chinks for her in every battlefield
A year or two and even the chinks would have lost interest in perpetuating their chimpout

>>102652310
The sponsors trust!

>>102652221
It’s only EN simps that are white knighting her, JP fans are railing against her at least

>>102652215
They filtered chink spam in her chat while Youtube did nothing

>>102652497
She thought she was chained because she knows how much "free" are the Western women than Nips ones and failed to realize what she have for listening to all the "you are being oppresed gurl" twitter mob

>>102651938
>>102652003
It was Japanese a Japanese platform, at that time the Chinese invented bots to attack it there.

>>102652497
The big shitstormw as already over. Cover being too incompetent to use bogstandard chat moderation settings and widely used moderation bots is not a valid excuse and makes it almost feel like she wanted to keep getting harassed by 10 bored retards.

>>102652609
From hindsight it still feels like a retarded idea to leave
Idk, maybe the meta just wasn't mature enough and her immediate recline after starting fleshstreaming again and mayb gunrun offering a huge venture capital funded check infuenced her decision
Whatever happened it's fucking sad, like watching someone you used to care for spiral down and fuck themselves over repeatedly

>>102652497
When she initially left I truly believed she had creative visions and plans which she wanted to pursue but was being held back by management. Now years later all she's done is gunpla and nothing special. I've come to realize she probably just didn't want to be an idol and do idol shit, simple as. I don't care for her current content, but I don't want someone to pretend to be an idol if that's not what they want to do.

>>102652497

>>102652310
How do they buy food and pay rent? Money was coming from somewhere under the table.

>>102652793
Yeah, figures.
No matter how much kson shilled for shit like vwhorejo and no matter how much of her words she has to eat, I still can't bring myself to dislike her.
She may be really fucking dumb, but she is a victim.

>>102652820
They still got their twitch money. The payments withheld were for merch and the other stuff going through vshojo.

>>102652820
>I'm retarded
Anon. Just shut the fuck up and never speak again. You are beyond help. Someone so stupid as to run their mouth when they know nothing of what they speak of should simply cease speaking forever.

>>102652820
Why you acting like a few months of non payment would suddenly mean that their on cup noodles diet or someshit? They were already rich beforehand, infact rich enough to not notice missing payments.

>>102653299
>Rich enough to not notice missing payments
Not even you believe that.

>>102653345
Michi already talked about it in her last stream. It's probably clipped and on youtube as we speak.

>>102653288
uh oh, someone needs to have a snack

>>102652136
>>102652172

>>102652793
Litteraly the CEO of god graduation, cover never learned...

>>102646560 (OP)
sounds like bullshit, if you quit and then say why you quit with public backing you can get the sponsors back. This just seems like cope because she got left with the bag after sucking their dick for two years straight trying to spite hololive.

>>102653814
>Anon with zero knowledge of or experience with business thinks sponsors will care if what you did was justified rather than assessing if you might be a brand risk
Stop being retarded.

>>102647656
Playing devil's advocate here, anon, but you'd be surprised by how many people do.

>>102654115
>>Anon with zero knowledge of or experience with business thinks sponsors will care if what you did was justified rather than assessing if you might be a brand risk
You're retarded

>>102653299
That's not rich at all it just means you have savings even I wouldn't notice half a year zero income. They still got their twitch income so it would be even harder to notice.

>>102654197
>Retard got so btfo all he can manage is a literal "no u"
Pitiful.

>>102653740
>>102653740
>gets out of Cover with a free soundbooth
>did a flip off a building and lived
>defeated her StepDad
>Told Vshoujo "No way fags."
>makes thousands off of fanbox for years
>Harem of beautiful ASMR women she plays league and dead by day light with
>took on Mikeneko in Menhera Kombat
>has a cute doggo
>everyone who meets her talks about how much the love her
>Guchico and his wife take her out to dinner
I kneel...

>>102646560 (OP)
Wasn't this bitch actively recruiting other girls to this company while they were already ripping people off? Shes complicit at this point but wants all the sympathy and attention anyways.

>>102647656
can i interest you in something called e-sports?

>>102646671
No one can disagree that Coco was her peak and its been all downhill since. I don't even like Kson but I STILL fucking miss Coco and that whole Hololive era

>>102654362
>Wasn't
No.

https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1948431592667709577
https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1948431592667709577
https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1948431592667709577

>>102654319
>btfo
>OH YEAH WELL MR MARKETING DO YOU WORK FOR MARKETING FIRMS HUH DONT TELL ME ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF TIMES THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE
actual retard simp

>>102654557
Yes.

>>102654348
I knew something was up with Mikeneko the second she went after another vtuber that went through the same shit she did.

>>102654561
Literal fucking who

>>102654588
>Anon doesn't even understand the basics
>Starts rambling about being a pro
Stop thinking in absurd hyperbole, retard.

>>102654919
a co owner of something

>>102654785
Proof next thread, or did it come to you in a dream?

>>102654950
you keep talking about nonexistent basics and standards that aren't real. if a company ditches you it's because you cause an uproar or you shit on them, I'm done arguing with a simp faggot retard like you who refuses to acknowledge the fact your oshit fucked up and is at fault as well.

>>102655048
>you keep talking about nonexistent basics and standards that aren't real.
Lol. What the fuck am I reading? Basic understanding of how business operates 'isn't real'? Nigger put the fucking crack pipe down.
>I-I won't argue because you reasons I made up in my head!
Ok. Off you fuck then.

>>102654995
Yes I totally dreamt all the times Kson actively recruited other people to vshojo. You being a virgin faggot is totally a dream too.

>>102654362
Yes but so did everyone else at the company while not getting paid.

>>102654362
She's mentioned several times over the past year that she knew nothing about the new members

>>102654441
Kson can disagree because she got the freedom she wanted outside of Holomive

>>102655160
Everyone is complicit. Unironically.

>>102646560 (OP)
Bullshit

>>102646961
It worked for the nijisanji hoes who got fired

>>102655142
Well, glad you admitted it at least, though the weird attempt at sarcastically telling the truth is a bit bizarre.

Most of the old userbase really is gone now huh? Coco was worshiped as one of the greatest vtubers of her time; a bastion of creativity and hilarious obscenity against the soulless chinks. Now a lot of sentiment has turned on her /here/, and I can't help but feel like its a mix of genuine fifth column chinese bootlickers, and opportunistic newfag trolls who entered the hobby with advent/justice. This kind of talk would be unthinkable a few years ago, and would be met with a wave of replies calling them 'zhangs' or 'chinks.' We truly are in the end times.

>>102656273
>Coco was worshiped as one of the greatest vtubers of her time
She was never what people made her out to be. That's the truth of the matter.

>>102656376
She was at her best when she could bounce off the more serious members around her, like Kanatan and Suisei. What the chinks did to her, and how Cover failed her were some of the biggest injustices in the industry at the time.

>>102655048
>you cause an uproar
companies who bow to subhumans getting outraged for psychotic reasons always get what they deserve in the end

>>102650975
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>102656273
She was good at one time. What of note has she done since leaving Holo though? Shilled her way into a video game I guess?

>>102656273
I mean it doesn't help she's been actively self-destructing since she left hololive, I don't think it there's anything else to it.
I used to watch Coco myself, while I knew of hololive for a bit and watched clips I really got into it when Ark happened. I have amazing memories of that time, when she graduated I tried watching Kson but it wasn't the same experience and vibe at all.

>>102647893
My guy, those were literally all hypotheticals kson was making up to hype up vshoujo

>>102656492
She was only put in a pedestal as the best ever because hololive is very bland in general, so anything that stands out a little shines a lot more. I do agree cover fucked up and the bugs harassing her was tragic, but she was not as magical as people made her out to be.

>>102656273
>Most of the old userbase really is gone now huh? Coco was worshiped as one of the greatest vtubers of her time
A ton of people shit on her when she was around though, calling her the Reddit dragon and the like. She graduated 4 fucking years ago and was only around as Coco for a year and a half, I do have some respect for what she did in her time; but if I think she's being a retard I am going to call her one

>>102656663
>She was only put in a pedestal as the best ever because hololive is very bland in general
This, everyone who has watched some indies or Phase knows how extremely milquetoast every single holo is, by design.

kson is a true fellah. she tried to help mikeneko after the hololive eviction. only a good person would do that.

>>102654561
>>102654919
>>102654982
Update: Kson blocked her because of the tweet lmao
https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1948444687381262742

>>102650975
kson is getting more popular than ever, she knows the game of vtubing and drama better than anyone. i have never seen so much threads about her. you guys are so naive.

>>102654919
Drama grifting vtweeter who's actually a dude with a chibi model. Kind of like Rev but even more unlikable. I've seen him try and start shit with all sorts of people for clicks.

>>102656913
>i have never seen so much threads about her. you guys are so naive.
Discussion level /here/ is an awful metric of success. There are part time 2views this place has been seething about for years

>>102648614
true

>>102646560 (OP)
the blue jew warned her about vshojo and she signed anyways, common kekson L

>>102648566
Only the upcoming PG Nu is that expensive and it's also the size of a small child

>>102656764
probably because "she" is a faggot retard who literally cant read or follow a thought
>Kson tried to warn other talents once she found out
>She couldnt warn the new talents because she didnt know who they were
>This drooling moron: Oh first you say you warned people then you say you couldnt, quite the contradiction hmm? I am very smart

>>102647217
She decided to trust some made up thing from someone who got fired and dramatubers with an agenda. In the end she got less than the fabled 2%

>>102646560 (OP)
That's a pretty stupid justification. She's basically saying she didn't want to raise a shitstorm while people were sponsoring her, same as those F1 drivers or Nascar drivers who stay on failing teams that are hemorrhaging money and not financially solvent. But why would sponsors want to be tied to a dying company that's scamming people?

>>102647178
They bent over backwards to keep her until they just couldn’t anymore, and it turns out there restrictions were the reason for her popularity

>>102652084
People talk about finances in China all the time.

>>102657861
>people
>China

>>102649182
clapper studio more like plapper studio ughhhh

>>102657908
sorry, young masters and jade beauties

>>102656273
You were always a newfag, a redditor, a /pol/roach and an insufferable piece of garbage.
PS: Stay out of /jp/

>>102656614
What has she done in Hololive? A news show with edgy skits? shaved her pussy? cursed every second sentence?
I take getting put into her most beloved gameseries over that

>>102656273
Korone had more influence than Coco.
FACTS.

>>102658171
>>102657861
>>102648208
lol the zhangs really are coming here huh?

>>102656755
>Phase

>>102656273
>Coco was worshiped as one of the greatest vtubers of her time
LOL, LMAO, we hated meme review time here what are you smoking?

>>102658528
you’re just being tsundere

>>102650425
shondo is also mentally ill so why the fuck do you believe her words

>>102656273
RECLINING

>>102647465
>>102649677
From her stream with the JP brach CEO he literally explained that sponsors are linked to the IP so her leaving VShojo would not have affected that, unless she knew VShojo would badmouth her to the sponsors like they did with Silvervale.
This is just a weak excuse for innaction, The fucking cancer patient had to be the one to break the news ffs, these whores who didn't leave early are all spineless

>>102646604
You do not burn bridges with sponsors like that. As soon as you do, you're getting blacklisted by every single one of them.

>>102651561
Besides praising Vshojo when she just joined, and they gave her this idea of a "perfect company", had she praised Vshojo at all this year? or during 2024?

>>102646604
Newfag losers like you might as well browse reddit, you will never be based.

>>102646604
let me know when Hyte get back to you

>>102658971
No you won't. There are multiple public cases where streamers burned bridges with certain sponsors and they still have plenty of others and get new offerings.

>>102659291
>there are multiple public cases
>May I see them?
>No

>>102656764
Nobody cares about your drama whore leech faggot, you can't even get 100 likes

>>102656764
She also blocked that groomer faggot and dox site owner Proctor.

>>102656273
Her creativity stopped the moment she left hololive, ironically.

>>102659593
Based

>>102659593
Absolutely based

>>102658528
Don't lie, I was there. People were crying over her final review. Stuff like I'll miss this bitch and get reviews were cringe but she didn't deserve it.

>>102659593
every vtuber should have automatically blocked this creepy cunt before he even has a chance to interact

>>102646560 (OP)
>the selfish ethot is a selfish ethot grifter

Wow, what a twist!

>>102650975
lol

>>102659291
Yeah maybe in the fucking west.
Try pulling this stunt in Japan, go ahead and openly shit talk Konami and their pachinkos, see what happens.

>>102656273
She's been not coco for longer than she was coco, so whatever good she did back then is in reality a small part of a big pile of nothing in her career.

>>102656273
Being a blind loyalist is retarded

>>102656273
>was worshiped as one of the greatest vtubers
I knew some taiwanese weaponize her to fight the chinks

>>102659957
Anon, coco was liked for the Asacoco show, and the start of the Ark arc. The Ark arc dragged on which made people get annoyed with her. People absolutely hated meme reviews as they saw it as an inferior asacoco. A lot of anons disliked her more loud/crass style. A lot of anons hated her fanbase which were the most reddit fanbase around. People came around to liking her again due to all the China bullshit (something she did to protect Haato from being flamed). The final meme review was "loved" as anons here saw her as a victim of management bullshit and 6 months of being fucked around with.

>>102646560 (OP)
Not leaving is one thing, but actively convincing others to join is the other.

>>102646560 (OP)
cringe bitch

>>102646671
Based.