Thread 102651533

You Can Tell When An Artist Has A Fetish Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/TheGubiGuber/status/1946217082741203249

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.youtube.com/@torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102648427

First for Gunrun did nothing wrong

behave

zen insulted the monster girls.... oof

silvadoggu!

Zen has seen the faggots attacking the others and is pissed

Zen is a man

Zen is a dumb dumb dumb saviorfag who is very dumb.
That is all.

Also she should show off her feet more.

>>102651597
get bamboozled gunrun

>Zen didn't know the other girls also weren't getting paid
>Wasn't even asking about her own payments in the earlier years
Alright well thats how they got away with it then. The girls probably just dont think about it, which is what I figured. Any merch done by Vshojo probably isnt on their mind - its almost strictly a bonus given streaming is their main revenue. People didn't think about it, or didn't think it was that bad, and didn't think the others were affected.

>>102651640
you bloody banchod

>>102651630
>she
>>102651642
>Alright well thats how they got away with it then.
We already knew that retard. They were under NDA not to discuss that shit with each other.

Nice to see the novas girls getting oiled up
Hotaru at a level 10 hype train right now

MICHI'S WITCHCRAFT STREAM KILLED THE COMPANY
TAROT CARDS ARE THE DEVIL'S TOOLS

I'm loving these streams and vids where talent just say how fucking stupid they are
mint should have ended her stream with her putting a shitty png of the "fell for it again" award on her model

These streams have done a great job of exposing why VShojo was able to get away with shit for so long. Org full of absolute retards.

Will any of the former members pay tribute to Hulk Hogan today? Geega maybe?

>>102651693
BURN HER AT THE STAKE

If you keep biting bait you'll be all alone again.

>>102651693
I don't want to believe in black magic but Michi's tarot readings are going to make a believer out of me

Reminder that Mouse is not clean in all of this.

>>102651693
Vshojo was a kind christian company until it was cursed by an evil voodoo witch.

>take shitty stances
>AHHH VSHOJO PR IS THROWING ME TO THE WOLVES AHHH
ok zen

>>102651723
does she even watch wrestling?

Tourist here. Been checking in every so often after the drama blow-up for lack of many better sources of discussion.

Why are you all so stupid and bad? Genuine question. It strikes me with just about every post I read in this general, and I'm absolutely baffled anyone could be like you all.

Calling it now, in <3 years Zen is bankrupt from saviorfagging literal who's that nobody wants to watch. Bonus points: she cries while in 3d mode to get the geckos to bail her out.

>>102651642
Most likely, they basically set up a direct deposit system, and just kind of assumed it was working.
Partly why for any automatic payment system I set up, I always have some kind of notification to tell me that something is due or that I'm paid.

>>102651762
So long as Zen has TTS enabled, she will never be bankrupt.

what dramatuber will have the best summary of this entire situation next week?
I can't keep up

>>102651756
it's more fun that way

Zendrama is trying to top Silverdrama

>>102651756
The good users left to other sites or generals after the hack

>>102651722 (me)
Yes, Geega too.

>>102651723
>Ozzy
>Vshojo
>Hulk Hogan
What's going on?

>>102651784
false

>>102651756
This thread is indeed gigashit, but please elaborate

>>102651754
imagine not having seen the geega steiner math clip
granted i can't find it on google so i guess i can imagine it

>>102651756
Many here are hostages for being proven wrong and can't cope with it

>>102651762
>she
>>102651784
>she

I am not following Silvervale

>>102651723
Didn't he taint his legacy

I think the Novas were necessary to start things on the JP side. But on the EN side, getting the biggest vtubers available that fit in well with the other members would have been the best move. The bad PR was just Phasefag vtweeters.

If Zen were the CEO of Vshojo, the company would have gone bankrupt even sooner

>>102651845
*millions
all the talents are intellectually disabled

The thread has filled with all the shitposters, time to take a break and watch Zen's stream alone

We remember VSW Zentreya

these bimbos were letting company use them as slaves

gunrun is silent like a rat

>>102651867
how about you lick my taint

>>102651756
This thread is popular enough to attract spergs and slow enough that one person can just ruin an entire thread if they keep their sperging just below what mods will ban and have nothing better to do
Also we have retards that respond to them

>>102651904
how much pussy do you think gunrun and the black security guy from the youtube videos got out of the talent?

>>102651723
Not to get all /pw/, but it's ridiculous how much hate Hogan got for being racist compared to people like Austin, Flair, Bret, Punk, and many more who are abusers.

>>102651897
I don't, what's vsw?

>>102651875
>geega saying that 2views are not a good investment and that vshojo should pick big vtubers so they don't go bankrupt
>zen wanting to beat the allegations and put her name forward on twitter but also expecting vshojo to defend her

There really was no winning in that situation.

>Zen not sure if she can trust people anymore
Ari's days are numbered...

>>102651756
When this thread eventually dies, some of us will probably culturally enrich whichever thread you use.

>>102651879
She could bankrupt me (of cum) with that ass.

Michi should link up with Azeala Banks

I'm just throwing retarded shit and guessing at shadows, but the glimpses I see pain a picture.
I'm guessing Geega and Zen had irrelevant arguments behind the scenes and really want to hash them out. The real crux of the issue seems to be that the company was financially predatory and mismanaged to some degree.

In other words, we don't actually know what went wrong, people just want to air their grievances.

>>102651975
nyan had a nendo deal in vshojo. I refuse to believe this, she's lying.

>>102651940
>her
>>102651969
>she
>>102651981
>She

>>102652001
she is owed over $100k

>>102651998
>it's geega's fault
sounds about right

>>102652001
It is if she never got paid for that deal

>>102651975
exnijis said the same thing when they joined vshojo

>>102652001
Vshojo wasn't paying her you fucking moron.

Yeah Zen, them getting 2 views instead of 1 views was the conspiracy to get rid of you.... can't listen to that shit anymore

>>102651940
so geega wasn't a good investment?
yeah, i agree.

>>102652001
Well, anything is literally more then $0.

I feel like Zen herself is just speculating at this point about how the community would react to the audition results. Thinking somehow debuting larger talents would get the community to turn on her for not getting small people through. Thats pretty retarded thinking.

>Say stupid shit
>THEY ARE THROWING ME TO THE WOLVES

>>102652074
>herself

>>102651937
Virtual Streamers Worldwide. The team Zen dropped to start Vshojo. Still exists btw. was just left to rot. Fun fact, Momo is in there too, which hurts more now that we know what they've done to her.

Company is nosediving into the abyss. Zen wants to hire literal nonstreamers just to clear her name.
Thinks they were doing it on purpose to het rid of her.

I love you Zen but this is a schizo rant

>>102652001
>the slave had a whole farm to pick cotton from, I don't believe they're getting a better deal being a cobbler

How did Pikamee grow from a small streamer to someone so big?

God I want zen to plunge her cock in my gf

>>102652056
Kuro said his first year in VShojo was great. I don't know but it seems to me like there was a period where they weren't fucking around post-leavers and pre-late 2024 where everything was actually running again because Michi also said the same. Remember that she got like 10 years worth of medical checkups in a month long break because she could suddenly afford it lol.

If you want to REALLY rrat: VShojo is known to have also owed on some loans. If they got loans mid 2023 then they could have actually operated properly for a period of time which is why everyone has good things to say about that specific period before it all went to shit late 2024 lol

>>102652074
The "Vshojo is just Zen's friend group" rrats drove xir crazy so "WE SHOULD FOCUS ON 2VIEWS" is her way of proving them wrong.

>>102651998
The only way all the stories make sense is with galacticly bad/ criminal management. I can't see how to lose $11 million on a Vtuber group in ~3 years. There is absolutely fraud or embezzlement going on.

It's amazing how Zen is making herself look worse off than she was even after all the bullshit Vshojo did.

>>102652142
Ok, Yuvi's GF.

>>102652074
It goes with the thing Silver and Nyan said. They didn't have protections for the talents to make sure they weren't getting flak or exposed to too many trolls. Look at the shit said here. Vshojo could have been more clear but they didn't care

>>102652097

Yup, she didnt need to make that statement to begin with, its her own fault

>>102652128
how can a man be so female coded

It is interesting to me hearing about the stuff about VShojo that seems to bother each of the talents who has talked about it so far.

* Mouse - betrayal, especially fucking over the charity
* Geega - business acumen or the lack thereof
* KSON - money and making her look like an ass for promoting them
* Henya - trust
* MIchi - trust
* Vei - money (but it totally isn't you guys)
* Nyan - manipulation
* Silver - leaderboards and emotional abuse

It's all pretty revealing, actually. I could armchari psychoanalyze these bitches for hours but I don't really want to right now. Still too pissed to shitpost.

>caring about grifters and antis this much
C'mon, Zen.

>>102652074
She was a retard for promising to get tiny vtubers. She backed herself into a corner for nothing. Why didn't she just keep her mouth shut? She really isn't beating the bimbo allegations.

>>102652182
They didn't have that because it's literally not possible. You can't stop people from tweeting.

>>102652170
fucking brainworms man... it puzzles me how they can't stop themselves. it's pirate software everywhere
>PR was shit
meanwhile, do shit at your PR

>>102652197
Vshojo was definitely evil but managing a group of mentally ill woman is enough to drive you mad

>>102652168
I'm seeing signs of people trusting the financial department too much. To me it appears like they were left to do money stuff with no auditing. On the other hand, that would be a mistake even a HOA run by grannies wouldn't make.

>>102652220
You can't but you can clear things up so that rrats have less of a chance to happen. Especially if you have people checking on sites like this one

>>102652182
This was retarded before and it's still retarded now.
What the fuck is VShojo supposed to do? They don't run Twitter. Are they supposed to wave a magical backpack around and bibbidi bobbidi boo the haters away? Do you want them to have the keys to the talents' houses so they can send a guy to babysit them and keep then off social media? What is your proposal?

>>102652128
>her
>>102652149
>her
>>102652170
>herself

>>102652182
>didn't have protections for the talents to make sure they weren't getting flak or exposed to too many trolls
the only protection that would be realistically possible is to block twitter and 4chan on their routers for them

friends within the group? they're not all your friends zen?

>>102652123
I've know zen shouts out at least darksabre and shiro from time to time. Antilewdarmy was absolutely a friendgroup and not a proto-org though, she didnt abandon them she just joined vshojo.

>>102652300
>What the fuck is VShojo supposed to do?
they were supposed to pay the charity over half a million dollars a year ago and they haven't, that's what they should have done.

>>102652326
Which they actually did for Mel lmao

>>102652327
Are you friends with every coworker?

>>102652327
She fucking HATES Hime

>>102652300
Listen to their talents and acknowledge some of their fears or make some compromise. Zen's point about Amalee made a lot of sense and nothing got done about it

lmao did they hire haruka to coerce zen into staying?

>>102652278
What exactly do you propose?
>Message to our community: Vshojo is not actually the Zentreya friends org. We picked Haruka because she's a great fit. Stop being mean on twitter.
That wouldn't help.

>>102652327
>Leaderboards

>>102652346
Ok. That's a separate issue that we all agree on. We are now on to the topic of what exactly was Vshojo supposed to do about this "protect me from myself" on twitter shit.

>>102652220
Hololive sues those who made defamatory comments on Twitter and 5ch.
Maybe Vshojo should do the same.

>>102652327
who the fuck is friends with all coworkers?
are you 12?

>>102652359
>Don't play Hogwarts. It'll cause drama.
>*plays it*
>*gets embroiled in drama*
Oh em gee! Why didn't they protect Silver?!

>>102651940
Vshojo ended up compromising by debuting nobody and imploding instead, you'd think this satisfied the both of them

>>102652392
Defamation laws in Japan are FAR more strict than those in the states.

okay zen but get to the real tea why did you block ironmouse

>>102652392
You can only do that in Japan

>>102652392
In Japan you legally can sue people for being mean on twitter due to Japan's insane defamation laws. You can't do that in America, where Vshojo is based.

>>102652392
>sue for defamation in America
You're kinda dumb

Silver's only crime is not being my wife
If after this week you're still a Vshojodrone defending that shitheap for any reason be it an autist that feels like he has to pretend to be devil's advocate or trolling I only have one thing to say

Kill yourself

Zen can be so dumb and opinionated about certain things, it's not a surprise she had a falling out with Mouse and Henya. It was probably over something equally dumb.

>>102652424
also why avoid saying "Henya" like the pleague

>>102652327
Shes barely interacted with nova, a couple collabs but theyre about as close to her as fraiki is.

>>102652392
Japan looks proper behind the insanity of their laws

>>102652197
The only one who have the right to be mad are Mouse, Kson, Henya and Michi. The rest are just making shit up.

Sure Zen "Reddit"

>>102652392
Are you stupid? That would just cause more issues for the girls.
People are STILL melting down at Froot and Mouse over defamatory videos getting struck.

No more PR team means:

Zen's savior complex will lead to Zen become Vtuber Santa Claus.

Mouse will become lewder maybe, sometimes

Henya will go full loli

I don't see much change for the rest.

>>102652392
we are cooked bro, I claim the jail bed near gunrun though
I wanna make him my prison bitch

>>102652392
You can get sued for defamation in Japan for literally telling the truth.

>>102652357
>She
>>102652445
>she
>>102652456
>Shes

>>102652392
Japanese company using Japanese anti-defamation laws to stifle speech. You can literally sue someone for defaming you even if they only spoke the truth about your business in Japan. Its why everyone vague posts and passive-aggressively comments about everything there.

>>102652415
This is still a management failure in that the protective measure failed to prevent the bad outcome.

>>102652273
most grannies running a HOA wouldn't steal half a million from charity either

>>102652516
Talent freedom, innit?

>>102652516
Just gotta let it go, people are gonna bait out angry replies and ignore what the talents have said even though it's been posted here 20 times. The trolls will get tired eventually

All this scamming and abuse of trust is really getting to me, man
I wish none of this happened, I wish I never got into this stupid fucking hobby

Agent Ink tweeted about Zen merch

>>102652415
can't believe they callled someone a pr liability that created a liability for pr

Im guessing it's holofags
Nimi news got stale so they came back

>>102652567
>trolls
What should VShojo have done to prevent the bad outcome?
Literally all people are doing is malding saying VShojo didn't do enough while not actually offering anything they should have done. That is, of course, because there was nothing they could have done short of some shit like outright forbidding Silver from playing it under threat of termination, which they likely didn't even have the power to do.

>>102652480
>Henya will go full loli
I'm pretty sure if she pushes any further with her model she'll just get banned since Twitch moderation is retarded. I don't see it.

>hulk hogan died
this week is so fucking cursed, i swear

Question
Not rep to vshojo but If hololive dies, does that mean they no longer hold the model rights of the talent

>>102652667
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

tectone/nux psa

Do it Zen. Say "kill yourself Nux"

>>102652615
We've had a particular Silver anti in here for years who spams the thread on the daily and you think this is holofags bored from the Nimi fallout?

>>102652548
There is in fact a middle ground between a halfhearted warning and outright restraining talent. Perhaps a more in-depth advisory explaining exactly what everyone knew was going to happen the moment silver tried to play the wizard game, and how silver could not bypass it by claiming a special exception, because 'harry potter was my childhood' is not an exception because harry potter was literally everyones childhood for two consecutive generations.

>>102652667
And nothing of value was lost

>>102652667
Hulkmania is not running anymore...

>>102652675
models will be assets to sell and distribute money in case of dissolution. so yeah, kson might be able to buy out Coco

>>102652667
Lost all respect to that guy after he started simping for Trump. Good riddance.

>>102652517
Most grannies running a HOA aren't given the opportunity. That's the point of audits.

>>102652591
excellent

>>102652711
nuh uh, vshojo has no responsibilities at all

>>102652711
There was literally nothing wrong with playing the stupid fucking Harry Potter game and blaming Silver for Twitter freaks being Twitter freaks is batshit insane.

>>102652710
I'm not a Silver anti or the WHO poster. I just think she was dumb for not just playing offline and people whining and blaming VShojo for that fucking mess are even dumber.

>>102652691
I would add all those chubas coming out with their stories to farm drama. Like the retard shondo making a huge deal that they told her if she would do a male colab and acting like they told her to whore herself

>>102652667
Oh no, what will happen to Pastamania now?!
>>102652753
How did it take you that long, he's been a notorious asshole for decades before Trump got into politics

>>102652710
Yes. /vsj/ was terrible for the past couple weeks and then /xvsj/ was good and then suddenly last night /xvsj/ became shit again, even before silver stream started. Either nimi drama was a temporary reprieve or it took 40 hours for someone to redirect a chatgpt botfarm to the new thread title.

>>102652686
>>102652667
Eh... whatcha gonna do? Also makes the Rule of 3: Malcom Jamal Warner, Ozzy, now the Hulkster. That's 3. Always in 3s.

>>102652675
Unlikely, it would be sold in the dissolvement.

So there was never any talent freedom?

>>102652796
He was only an asshole to people who followed pro wrestling. For anyone else he was just that guy who said to say your prayers and eat your vitamins in the 80's lol

>>102652667
Vei caused that

>>102652818
obviously, only slavery

>>102652480
>>102652657
Henya will go oppai loli like this

>>102652818
gunrun realized the only way to have true talent freedom is to burn it down, burn it all down

>>102652802
>nimi drama was a temporary reprieve
It's this.

>>102652818
only for staff

>>102652786
I agree that twitter freaks should not have been twitter freaks about the harry potter game. But saying I disagree with rapists and muggers does not mean I support wandering drunk throgh dark alleys at 3am.

>Zen wants to get a tarot reading from Michi now
NONONONONO

Wait the monster girl weren't small enough for Zen? Tori has 10k subscribers on youtube, less followers on Twitch. Pia isn't much bigger.
Did Zen want people with 0 content creation experience?

A bit sad, I was hoping that Zen would saviorfag for the monstergirls a bit.

>>102652818
it was all a social experiment, and we've reached Total Talent Freedom
trust me Ignacio, this defense will work

>>102652675
If Hololive died they would sell off their assets (vtuber IPs) to either another company or the talents themselves to cut their losses. It is also possible in that situation for Hololive to generously give every talent their respective IP, but I would not expect that generosity from a gigantic corporation with 500 employees. If they died they would probably owe some money and not really be able to do that.

>>102652786
On paper sure there isnt anything wrong with it. Given the landscape at the time and the audience she streams to? Yes there would have been a problem with it. I can go out in the street yelling slurs and they're just words, there shouldnt be any problem. She cannot be upset that the choice she made lead to the exact thing everyone knew would happen and had been happening when she played it.

>>102652873
anons are retarded, she was talking about Idolgen that was supposed to debut BEFORE monstergirls. And it had big names

>>102652795
they basically did anon
>what if the guy has alot of viewers?

>>102652711
It's funny your "middle ground" is just doing exactly what they did and telling her that she'll end up in drama if she does it.
No one offers any actual solutions because the only solution is Silver not being the dumb sexy bimbo she is.

>>102651693
Eat shit

>>102652415
my hater-ass still hates silver for this
>knows something will cause drama
>does it
>cries about it and gets millions of clicks

>>102652873
You have to understand that the people that harass Zen are vtweeters. There is no scenario where she gets out unscathed. Even if literal vtweeters were hired other vtweeters would complain it wasn't them

>>102652667
YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

vshojo should've had a mascot of a demon lady that offers contracts for their souls and all would've been forgiven

The longer this goes on the more I think it really could have been solved with some basic solutions I remember people discussing for YEARS here lol. Legacy merch so VShojo ALWAYS has a store presence bringing money in year round even outside of drops. Put a required like 3 minimum merch drops per year into the contract. And some kind of merch people will buy multiple times like the tea they had at the end. There you go.

>>102652818
Talent freedom to get fucked, basically. I'm almost certain if one of them had done something to really upset the company, they would've jumped straight to blackmail and threats to keep them signed on but unable to stream and NDA'd up the ass.

Ay Ignacio

>>102652868

>the twelve of clocks, you will start stream at 12AM
>the eight of cups, inverted. it means you are going to be 8 beers deep
>the... entire tray of edibles?

>>102652873
Yeah, she is retarded like that.
And she thinks the company was approaching large streamers to force her to leave, not because it should have to sustain themselves.

I am not defending Gunrun for all the shit he did but hiring people that nobody knows just to please Zen in a time where you are bleeding money was not the play.

>>102652999
That's what they did though
Silver said they suspended her for playing Hogwarts Legacy

>>102652996
Geega openly talked about wanting legacy merch with VShojo for months. I think it did happen briefly but then the store got updated and it went away lmao

>>102652873
She likely will, everyone is venting right now, so some of the stuff they say may come off more hostile than intended.

>>102652996
I see no way the company wouldn't have been profitable with responsible financial practices. Hell, charge a fucking membership fee if it's really that rough.

>>102652996
You're under the impression the higher ups were running a real company and not a scam to suck up VC money and rob talents blind to fund a life of clout and parties

>>102651693
Last time Indonesian witchcraft was involved, they voodooed China with the coof.

>>102652922
Zen isn't communicating that very well then because those WEREN'T the auditions. Mint's idol gen was seemingly its own thing, like how Geega got approached and Ama joined. It was just part of their ongoing poaching. If Mint debuted, they'd just have to go "hey she isnt from the auditions either"

>>102652996
While I think they mightve been too deep in the hole / red, i agree. Also cut out a lot of useless/too much staff.

Should've focused on being profitable over doing stupid shit, too bad, it all came crashing down at last.... ;_;

Which I find is a real shame, the talents and everything was all so good, and muh talent freedom

>>102653067
I mean not spending like crazy would have definitely helped, but there's so many things they could have done they just never did

>>102651693
We need another reading to fix things

>>102653035
>And she thinks the company was approaching large streamers to force her to leave
READ, NIGGA
She said that the corp agreed to do a small gen, and she went public announcing a small gen, and then if the company went and released a gen of known 4views it would be egg on her face even though it was vshojo that made the decision. She isnt saying that this is them forcing her to leave. she is saying this is the company not caring about promises it made.

>>102652925
You realize this was an interview right? They have to understand her way of thinking, her ambitions, the thrive to succeed?

Oh noooo. How can you interact with a male???? You are now tainted forever.
Damn you unicorns are the worst part of the fanbase.

Alt-right vtubers are already latching onto the Silver thing. I wish she had the capability to think for a moment before she speaks.

Drama made every miss that Zen RT'd art with her and Henya ZENYA LOVE IS STILL REAL

>>102653164
no one gives a shit about vshojo anymore, so who cares.

>>102653091
>those WEREN'T the auditions
Neither Geega nor Zen knew about both of those. Geega had insider info only because her friend was in it, and Zen probably also now knows from Geega

>>102653135
damn nigga that's a lot of words responding to vshojo wanted their talent to be leeches

>>102653164
This faggot has been milking this from day one

>>102653164
>my hate boner is justified

So I know there's a lot of blame being passed around, but we can all agree these girls are good eggs right?
I want to like them a lot

lmao I look forward to her stream today

>>102653091
>poaching
Oh okay, we ARE being raided by catalogtards.

>>102653230
kek

>>102653164
>SHUT UP SILVER
>DO NOT TALK WHAT VSHOJO DID TO YOU
kys

>>102651533 (OP)
I need this burga elsewhere. Plz hold.

>>102653230
Lmao, she is a treasure

>>102653283
that's literally the term zen used you threadreading faggot, watch streams

>>102653164
Its unfortunate that this call wasnt recorded, because I would have loved to hear gunrun begging silver to please maybe possibly consider, if she could be so kind, not that she has to but I think that it would be really good if, maybe you could just lay low for a bit and not continue throwing more fuel into the wizardgame fire

>>102653190
But at this point Zen surely knows about the monster girls, so she must have known the "small" gen was actually planned.

>>102653164
... seriously fuck Gunrun and VShojo but... other than the suspension was is the problem here? Gun was 100% right that this was a bad idea and would cause problems. It DID.

>>102653132
NIGGA you do realize some of them were 2views?

>>102653224
I'm looking forward to the collab

>>102653301
Do you have the cute drawings too?

>>102653283
NTA but Zen outright called it poaching, sorry

>>102653164
How does Vshojo enforce a suspension? They dont own her IP or her accounts. I feel like she interpreted a request to not stream until the drama blows over as a suspension.

>>102653132
>>102653201
Buy a rope tourist

>>102653356
now she knows, back then she probably got a snitch from Geega about Mintgen joining and it triggered her paranoia

>schizos are seething Silver is allowed again so they latch onto wizzard game drama
Damn that's crazy
She still will be posted here you know

>>102653356
...wait, is it possible Zen didn't actually look into the monster girls all that much after learning of their identities just now and somehow assumed they were bigger than they actually are? Because that'd be pretty funny.

>>102652922
>she

>>102653363
you missing the point

>>102653427
>she
>her

>>102653366
>>102653356
READ NIGGA
The mint gen would have released, and zen would have to vaguepost about this actually not being the auditions. Again. Just like with amalee. Because vshojo refused to publicly announce anything about the auditions and wouldnt let the talents leak the existence of the MG gen either.

>>102652818
If every atom that makes you was free, you’d disintegrate — just like Vshojo

>>102653433
I think it would be funny if Zen looked at their streams after they announced they were going to be, saw that they were all at over 1k from a huge drama boost and assumed they were 4views lmao

To think some of (You) unironically want these girls to try forming their own corpo

>>102653457
I'm not. I'm trying to point out only certain people would care without directly trying to continue with the /pol/tardedness of the discussion, but you just have to fucking ruin it. Thanks, asshole.

>>102653433
she might've, but I think she is just mixing up two gens that were supposed to debut she never knew about. And no one else of talent knew, except for Geega

>>102653480
That makes sense I guess. Zen would have looked bad to the vtweeters on Mintgen debut and the monster girls would have been weeks or even months later.

>>102653522
I want it because I think it'd be funny

>>102653164
this was the only correct thing that gunrun did

>Silver supports mouses IDF charity
>Sinder gave money
>Even stinking Tectone donated
>still nothing from Bunny_gif
Tells you everything you need to know

I'd also agree to Zen that pushing monstergen from auditions so far for so long would've been a PR hit for her. But this is just probably more shitty mismanagement hell, rather than malice

>>102653224
I watch Pia and Beri for a long time (almost since they debuted, back in 2021). They ARE good eggs. Btw, Beri is Mint's friend and also big MGS fujoshi (just like Mint).

>>102653522
I bet Mel would run a corporation really well

>>102653507
I wouldn't find that very funny, but I think Zen would realize that a 10k follower channel doesn't usually get 1k viewers.

>>102653617
it'd be cool if it was like, focused around vtubers who did 18+ content or something

https://x.com/cumilq/status/1948434918197072210
HOW MANY FUCKING TOWERS ARE THERE

>>102653593
honestly, bunny is so distant from the vtuber community at this point that for all we know she might not even know that vshojo collapsed

>>102653599
Pia is also a mintfriend who hangs out regularly with her at offkai and in japan

>>102653524
why are you blaming me for things that you're doing, dumb faggot?

>>102653640
>vshojo sent me a legal threat for impersonating ironmouse

>>102653594
The auditions were drawn out for a very long time, which wasn't making anybody look good. They did the same thing the first time which was, allegedly, because of Kson and Nazuna coming out first. Since MTD was the "hype man" for debuts, I'm going to blame him for this shit. Dude must think you can't have too many debuts too soon or it'll be bad or something. Meanwhile, Geega, Kuro, and Mata proved that was dumbass thought.

>>102653640
LETSGO

>>102653224
I will give them more than a chance. I've been looking for a likable slime girl vtuber for a long time.

>>102653617
Mel has been so quiet about all this. No posts on discord. She said a few sentences on Twitter and then ran lol

>>102653640
>https://x.com/cumilq/status/1948434918197072210

OH GOD NO

>>102653522
I'd specifically want it because it'd crash and burn spectacularly and it's not like there's deep bonds and friendships to be ruined there anyway.

>>102653627
Zen's not very smart.

>>102653640
Shes announcing her pregnancy with vedal

>>102653640
mimi releasing her mixtape

>>102652675
If Hololive died, the remnants of the company would sell off the talents’ IPs just like Soviet generals sold weapons after the USSR collapsed

>>102653680
If she's completely devastated by this and quivering, I wouldn't be surprised.

>>102653224
I liked Tori and only her, for now. What it could've been man

>>102653572
>belittling and insulting is good
unironically rope yourself ASAP

Is this how zentreya makes content? just lets TTS speak on stream for their 30sec parasocial experience?

>>102653744
thats most streamers

>>102653683
Legitimately what on earth could this possibly be. If its oh I applied and was denied too that's just boring

>>102653653
She's been trying to weasel her way back in for a while now.

>>102653640
camila ia s fucking tool

>>102653744
no, she is usually stalling for an hour to let everyone go broke before she starts. i am being serious

Hime update
>>102652675
Depends on how they want to handle it. Lot of good companies that died have let their talents keep their corpo IP's because they no longer have any use for them. Less good companies have made their talents buy their IP's to continue using them. And even less good companies just threw them out on their ass with nothing. What route they take would depend on why they died

>>102653572
I would've reacted the same. There's no correct way for a victim to act, but you don't have to go out of your way to stick your dick into a beehive.

>>102653402
Afaik she was streaming like 3 days after.
Doesn't sound like a suspension

>>102653640
HERE WE FUCKING GO AGAIN

>>102653640
>>102653683
If only you saw how mad she was when she was watching Mousey's video, you wouldn't be so surprised.

>>102653670
I mean, that would be fucking funny.

average silverfag by the way

>>102653785
how drunk is hime rn?

>>102653759
it's something juicier with how long it's taking to cook

>>102653804
I agree with him. He's a scumbag.

>>102653807
always yes

>>102653726
She said she's gonna come back hornier. I can't believe vshojo told mel to be less horny. That's the real crime in all this

>>102653804
That's based though?

>>102653804
I agree with that.

>>102653804
this dude is one of the worst subhumans out there

>>102653683
She's really going to behead GunRun live on stream, ISIS-style

>>102653804
grxit is a faggot, but he's not wrong
>awewage siwwewfag
seethe harder lmao

>>102653640
Let me guess, she made it to some interviews but was ultimately rejected, got paid $500 and it disrupted her activities for a few months.

I hope gunrun and his associates go to prison.

>>102653737
it's honesty. playing that game was outrageously retarded. everyone knew that. hassan said he wanted to play it as a charity stream to raise money for trans rights and he got attacked for it. it was dumb and everyone knows it.

t. i unironically like harry potter, loved the series since my teacher read it to me in 2nd grade don't @ me

>>102653804
This guy is a phase/pol/nigger

>>102653594
They also said that one of the models for the girls was not ready and that's why it was delayed again. Anyways, I think the shit hit the fan with the first audition, that's when they dropped the ball by rejecting everyone (some of them have respectable careers now) and hiring Haruka that she literally graduated the moment she debuted

With the way Gunrun spent the money we know that the company would go under anyway but also it doesn't help when like half of the members turn out to be inactive or small streamers. They milked Mouse (and later Zen) as much as they could until the glass house shattered

>>102653807
>how drunk
grammatically incorrect. hime's drunk is not a variable. there are not levels or grades of drunk. there is a constant steady value of drunk.

>>102653860
I'd like to think it's something more substantial than that if she's announcing it lol

>>102653804
You seriously want to defend gunrun?

>>102653884
you want to defend literal kiwifarm /pol/posters?

>>102653640
>HOW MANY FUCKING TOWERS ARE THERE
More than 2, that's for sure.

>schizo is browsing Xitter looking for any Silver mention
Obsessed

Kson fuming

>>102653640
>>102653683
>>102653860
AND NOW YOU'RE AWARE CAMILA DID A COMPLETELY RANDOM COLLAB WITH MINT LITERALLY YESTERDAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npGRFgMcJSE

>>102653785
Hime is going to have sex with Henya. LETSGOO!!

>>102653910
I don't think he's a kiwifaggot.

>>102653804
let us handle it from here vshojos, we will get the girls paid
deploying the drama brigade

>>102653949
There is zero chance Camila was in that idol gen lmao

>>102653949
>Idol group

>>102653863
The worst part of all this is that the game itself is just kind of okay and is like a leftist's Harry Potter fanfic. I'll never understand the retarded discourse around it, never. And I think I'm happier about that.

>>102653949
camila is more of a comedian than an idol though, mint unit was idols

>>102653599
What's Pia's stance on lewding slime girls?
Don't worry, I won't be a degenerate in her chat. I'll keep the degeneracy to myself.

>>102653910
So you do want to defend that backpack fraud lmao
Silver broke your mind that hard huh

>>102653926
haven't posted or looked for anything but shit is just appearing into my feed now
and of course it's nothing but hp discourse
no one cares about silver beyond the troons harrasing her

>>102653949
What if Camila was the 4th monstergirl?

>>102653785
They are a public company, they have little to no choice regarding their hypothetical dissolution.

>>102651815
I blame Phase Connect

>>102654012
what type of monster is she

...are we going to add notMouse to OP too now?

>>102653640
>clown imp
>model was being set up for this year
>fits the monster girl setup
I doubt its her but if she was the hidden 4th holy shit

>>102654030
a chupacabra

Well good morning to you too I guess

>>102653997
Your xitter feed is based on what you browse schizo

>>102654030
She's an imp. And a clown. But mostly an imp

>>102654030
Clown Chihuahua

>>102654030
semen demon

>>102654037
man, I have doubts they would hire someone so visually similar to mouse but at the same time they hired both hime and hestia so who knows

>>102651807
Where did they go? I'd much rather be with them.

>>102653990
I don't know if it is just how her tracking works, but when watching her last night (and muted because I was watching Mouse) she sure likes to bounce up and down a lot with an expression on her face that is somewhere just before orgasm.

>>102654053
"YOUR FEED CAME FREE WITH YOUR FUCKING BROWSING HABITS, DICKHEAD"

>>102653984
>and is like a leftist's Harry Potter fanfic
I've read a lot of leftist harry potter fanfic in my time and hogwarts legacy was significantly more grounded and true to the source material. there werent even any 14 year old slytherin boys wearing sexy leather pants.

>>102654030
xdd cat

I didn't see this being posted here, so here you go.

>>102653370
No, In only have burga. Sorry.

>>102653984
it was never about the game itself, but that Rowling was receiving money from the sales due to it being her IP
which is still retarded to protest since that's how IP rights work

Now that it's confirmed vshitshow did infact throw silvervale to the wolves who do you think was behind that and why is it froot?

>>102653804
This nigga is 35 years old, fat, brown, and living with his parents. Confirms all of the stereotypes for your typical phasefaggot.

>>102653984
the author of harry potter is a schizo who literally uses her money for evil so people don't want her to get any more. that's basically the whole issue. if she was just a cunty boomer who hoarded a pile of gold people probably wouldn't really care. she's just a terrible human.

>>102653990
>lewding slime girl

Holy shit, before today Gunrun was the literal devil...after the embarassing one sided bs both Silver and Zen spewed he doesn't look that bad anymore.

>>102654114
It was posted yesterday lol

>>102654140
Hello gunrun

>>102654114
>I didn't see this being posted here
this is at least the 4th time I've seen it posted in /xvsj+/

>>102654114
it was posted before, and it's excellent.

>>102654140
>after the embarassing one sided bs
Share the copium that you're huffing.

>>102654126
"vshojo was throwing all the girls under the bus- except the one I don't like, she was actually behind it all and the company bent to her every whim!!"

h-hi
am i cute

>>102654088
4x2ch, /big/ and the /voms/ thread for anything kson/henya/nova related

>>102654053
my for you is based on what I browse
I don't use my for you
I use my follower list which is not even vtuber related
the only thing that permeates outside of the vtuber bubble for silver is hp shit

>>102653997
Leave it to Silvervale to somehow make Gunrun look good in this ig

>>102654177
Show feet

Silver is having fun and it's making me happy
Last 4 years were hell for her, she deserves to relax finally

>>102654170
it's called critical thinking. try it sometimes

>>102653522
Because it be funny because it will end up crashing and burning for the same exact reason as vshojo, hell it might even reveal who was really scamming everyone at the company.

>>102654135
Slime girls are made to be lewded.

>>102654053
to be fair, all it takes is to consume any vtube content on twitter to get these takes on your feed, since they are also vtuber related
talking from personal experience before I deleted my account there
even blocking that content and doing the "Not interested" thing still only hides it for a day or two before it comes back

>>102654171
Yes.

>>102654177
Yes

>>102593740
reminder

>>102654140
Hope you have a good lawyer Gun

>>102653992
I am not defending Gunrun's actions with the company, neither if he did say to Silver that she was "Disappointment or a liability". But for that instance he was correct. Silver wanting to the HL streams when everyone warned her not to do it was stupid. And guess what? IT DID bring a ton of negative PR both to her and the company, it created ripples through the members and rrats were created like Froot hates Silver and people were attacking other members for not defending Silver

Gunrun is an asshole who stole money, Silver is an idiot who cannot make a good decision. Both can be at foul you know, it's not who is the most evil is in the wrong

>>102654195
hoo?

>>102654185
except she made him look worse, but keep coping and simping for a dead org

>>102654220
Nigga VShojo doesn't exist anymore. There is no one to defend lmao

>>102654093
Yeah, it's pure sex.

>>102654264
not really, he was completely correct about her being a pr risk

>>102654248
My wife

>>102653990
nta but she's a horny degenerate who fucking loves lewd slimes
she'll just act shy and deny it

>>102653967
I never thought I would one day fight on the same side with a phase dramafag

>>102654177
Yes. There should be more monster girl vtubers.

>>102653617
We already have the porn tuber agency and they're run far better since the primary drive there was spite

>>102653992
NTA I think both were foolish
you can’t promise “talent freedom” and pull those stunts
At the same time, you can’t throw yourself into the fire and expect to make it out fine.
The call after was foul, but I still think it was retarded all around.

I went to the vshojo building and when I tried to open the front door I found out the handle was drawn on with crayon! I tried to pull at it, but the whole front of the building fell down and it was just one big piece of cardboard with gunrun sitting in the middle on an ipad playing cut the rope

>>102653967
if you can distroy all the silverfags because they are annoying as fuck, i'm in

Idk why Silverfags are so adamant she's not a retard, everyone else here is fine admitting that their oshi is fucking stupid.

>>102653822
>>102653838
>>102653841
>>102653910
This is who silverfags are defending

>>102654244
>he was in the right to insult and belittle his employee , even though his employee was not at fault
You're either baiting for (you)s or you being completely retarded.

>>102654326
She's perfect then.

>>102654390
Nobody is defending this retarded subhuman

>>102654377
Hell people were JUST calling Zen retarded and I know for a fact that didn't just start today lol

>>102654372
>distroy
keep seething esl squatter, they are not going anywhere

>>102654264
Silver shouldn't be in a situation where she has to make this choice. It's just playing a video game. That's why not playing the game is a shit option and everyone who did it regardless is fucking based.
Now, on the other hand, Silver's actions reflect on the rest of the company. That's where she fucked up. It's blatant disregard. There's an avenue I didn't previously consider because I didn't realize how bad Vshojo was. If she wanted to fuck over Vshojo, it's actually gigabased.

I got a question, why is silvervale's ccv half that of zentreya ?

>>102654390
At last I truly see. The one remaining vshojo member, the secret mastermind behind the throne. Gunrun's very own wormtongue, corrupting his mind with random squeaks while hyperfocusing on an apex match.

>>102654454
nobody know who is

>>102654390
I know she deserved closure and had a right to get it off her very ample chest, but God dammit Silver. Now these faggots have an excuse to do this shit again.

>>102654372
>says the annoying esl silverschizo
You still mad that you got btfo'd today, shitter?

>>102654030
A woman.

>>102654454
Red tits > Blue tits. Sorry I don't make the rules

>>102654438
zen is self-destructively stupid
silver makes it everyone else's problem

still don't know who the fuck you're all talking about

>>102654472
>>102654495
holy shit, grammar nazis ... makes sense you're silverschizos

alright, I'll stick to /big/

>>102654314
retard

>>102654390
once gain, they don't give a shit about Silver, nor anything going on about Vshojo
they are just far right lunatics

>>102654451
>Silver shouldn't be in a situation where she has to make this choice.
Every single streamer active in february of 2023 was forced to make a choice. Its really stupid that it happened, yes. But once you learn that anything is going to be corrupted by retards into a political thing the objectively correct move is to give the entire situation a wide berth.

>>102654030
a Lebanese

>>102654396
Dude can you read???????
I clearly state I do not agree with him belittling her (if this is true btw), I am saying that him advising her not to do the streams was correct. All the thing he told her happened. Now if he did all these thing after he is at fault, but she is also an idiot that does not listen and doesn't understand that HER actions have effects to the whole group

>>102654579
And Froot antis.

>>102654534
second one isn't tho

>>102654579
>far right lunatics
yeah the lefty ones are so much better

>>102654592
damn, she's gay? no chance for me then

>>102654619
every single Froot anti is a far right lunatic

>>102654492
this is why silver is a cunt; she knows this

which dramatuber should I watch to get a QRD on what happened

>>102654627
notice how this anon doesn't actually argue the point and simply deflects

>>102654590
I agree. If Silver was in my company, I would've reacted similarly to Gunrun. That's something I can't fault him for.

>>102654390
Nobody is defending him
People are making fun of you for being so obsessed you're posting things like this as some sort of gotcha against Silver
Drink bleach fag

>>102654647
geega

>>102654530
you remember that one wolf girl who pretended to be friends with a bunch of people while bottling up that she was actually intensely jealous of them, until it all exploded and it killed her career?
Sinder, yeah?
imagine her, except blue hair.

>>102654647
False. He has 2 videos already and only covers the facts. Though he's already out of date now that Silver and Zen talked and Camila said she's going to talk more

>>102654627
no one was talking about leftists, you whataboutist retard
it's a fact every single Froot anti is a right wing schizo

>>102654627
This is a lefty space, chudling

>>102654659
>>102654681
you're all freaks and I hope you kill each other as violently and painfully as possible

>>102654472
>>102654530
>>102654644
>>102654668
>retarded silverschizo still having a melty
heheheheh, this is great

>>102654628
all these indie bitches lebanese until they play Love and Deepspace on stream on time, and then suddenly theyre pansexual polyamorous.

Every ex of Vshojo? Support them. Don't stop supporting them. Love, a simple /lig/ger man.

I bet beribug gives really good hugs

>have to move all my porn out of the Vshojo folder and into the Independent folder
I swear if any of these girls go corpo again and make me do minor organizational changes to my porn directory I'm gonna be mildly inconvenienced

Erm
https://x.com/VShojo/status/1948442574722924778

GUNRUN UNIRONICALLY TWEETED

>>102654728
Two hands around your shoulders, one jacking you up, and one fisting your butt

>>102654661
I hope he pays you for all that whitewashing that you're performing right now.

>>102654390
I hope some day froot realizes that keeping quiet and being an uuuu le heccin smol bean isn't gonna make these retards stop bothering her. Heil hitler.

>>102654735
>>102654751
wtf I love gunrun now

>>102654735
>>102654751
hanlon's razor was right again

>>102654735
>>102654751
>I didn't know it was charity money
You're fucked ignacio.

>>102653804
i agree with this stance.

my honest reaction

>>102654735
>>102654751
At least he took accountability in word. Will that be any amount of monetary accountability?

>>102654735
>>102654751
>GUYS, I TOTALLY DIDNT KNOW IT WAS FOR CHARITY
fuck off

>>102654772
so you another melty having silveschizo then

>>102654735
>I've been doing everything I can to fundraise and right the ship these past few months

bro, zen was thinking about leaving back when "the other 3" left, it's been going on longer than that

HERE WE GO

>>102654735
>>102654751
>doesn't acknowledge the NDA shit
hmmm

>>102654751
>>102654735
GunRun-s off with the money.

>>102654751
>>102654735
>didn’t know it was for charity
From where did he think fucking 500k appeared in the VShojo account

this thread needs some Peke

>>102654390
im not defending him. im just saying stupid busted clocks are right twice a day.

>>102654735
>>102654751
>oopsy I didn't realize the money I was embezzling was for charity, teehee my bad

>>102654805
>they didn't audit the money
I've genuinely done business with grannies and 19-year-old girls that know better, what the fuck

>>102654865
gunrun with suspiciously 500k-shaped stomach:

>>102654854
Why would he apologize for industry standard practices?

>>102654735
>>102654751
>I'm shutting down Vshojo
>*bunch of obvious bullshit about how he tried his hardest to create a good org*
>I didn't know that the money were supposed to go to charity
OH FUCK RIGHT OFF

>>102654640
The Venn diagram isn't quite an overlapping circle, but it's about 95% true.

>>102654905
I read this 500k Sandiwch om

>>102654735
This is so much worse than no statement. He's a millionaire and surely has access, at least, to a lawyer who would tell him to never do this. Or a friend. A mentor. A pastor. Literally anyone could have told him not to.

everyone that is outraged by the PR statement is an actual child or a third worlder who has never worked a corporate job in their life

>>102654735
>>102654751
Good
That's what happens when you're rude to Silver

>>102654948
>om
I know what you are

>>102654905
kek

>>102654735
>thought the buyout through cat (or another buyer) was going through and spent the charity money on salaries thinking he could make it back
Yep, hes criminally stupid.

>>102654735
>HE LIVES

guys, I'm vshojos pr lead- I don't know what I'm doing, they hired me off of fiverr help

this guy is full of shit lol, so he didn't know the money was for a charity lmao

>>102654967
Let me guess, you're not outraged because you're super smart and cool

>>102654701
this, but unironically

everyone that is outraged by my bad posts is an actual child or a third worlder who has never watched an xvsj in their life

>fundraising from your talents money and charity money
I don't think that's how it works Gunrun

>>102654975
Someone who uses Twitch, in a former VShojo thread perhaps?

>>102654735
"Duuur where did this 500k suddenly come from? Well I don't know but lets spend it anyways!"

>>102654967
What company do you work for, to ensure nobody here ever does business with it?

Broooooooo. He should've just stayed silent.

aren't charity money not taxable so they MUST sit separately? not expert on US law

>>102655044
4chan

>>102654967
do you expect the wolf of wall street here among us ?

>>102655010
do what everyone else has been doing, go on twitter and point at gunrun

This fucker is either lying or is quite literally the worst manager in the history of mankind
Communication failed at EVERY. SINGLE. LEVEL

>>102654848
Seeing her go over it live is surreal. Never seen something like this happen

>>102654735
>>102654751
This is a sincere apology.
Will you forgive him?

>Gee I wonder where this $500k came from!!??
>I should invest!!
Fucking retard

>Zen spends a minute in silence
>"So we're probably bankrupt"
lmao

>>102654735
This is like sinder's apology , even worse.
There is no responsibility.

>>102654967
dramaniggers gonna dramanigger, even when the statement just basically confirmed what we all knew

sooo the charity money got put into talent, probably had to pay off Geega is my bet

>>102655071
>among us

>>102654735
>we tried everything guys. and we were so great.
just ran out of money by ignoring basic company finances.
>btw. never knew we used charity money. please believe me.

>>102655102
As long as he pays the charity money, yes. That was his biggest misstep here.

>>102655063
because it's not technically charity money, the money is from subs/bits

>>102655102
Of course

zen is stunlocked

>>102655080
Shylily did mention that she was sussed out by the fact that the payment structure made money hard to trace.

THE NDA'S ARE DEAD
LEAK ALL THE DETAILS
NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Zen looks like her brain was microwaved

>>102655111
bankrupt? bankruptcy doesnt save from the charity fraud. depending on what that 500k charity money was spent on they might actually be legally forced to claw it back from peoples salaries. the company doesnt have 0 money, it has -500k money.

>>102654735
>>102654751
I guess that's the end of that. It nice knowing you guys.

So how do you know when the company is officially, legally, completely dead and gone?

>gee I wonder where those 500k suddenly came from
>welp, mine now
Stunning sense of buisness, really

>>102654030
A hambeast

You would think the finance guy could’ve traced back the money and see that it came from the talent itself lmao
How the fuck do you not know that

I can't wait to see Henya read Gunrun's apology statement and react

>>102654836
(you)

>>102654735
>>102654751
Lmao.

Anyway, I want to fuck Peke.

>>102655102
I respect that he is at least owning up to it instead of trying to just blame it on somebody else (which wouldn't have worked anyway), but there is no reason to forgive anything he did

>>102655102
He's only talking about money and nothing else. No.

>>102654854
well the company is over therefor the NDA have no teeth now.

gotta say, spending 11 mill dollars in 3 years is DAMN impressive, jeez these girls are expensive!

>>102655244
She won't do it..she has drama alergy

>>102655123
>geega
Brother they were probably still paying Vei

>>102655229
brooo you're not making sense- it's like when you find some cash in your couch. it's yours at that point- you find a fiver between the cushions, you find 500k in the company account- tomato tomahto

>>102655237
If we are to believe the details, it's pretty clear there's no proper auditing. That's assuming nobody is lying.

>>102653164
Unironically understandable thing.
This shit would go like wildfire and spread to other talents.

Similarly with Matara, in her past life (pre-fox) she, IIRC, advocated for streamers not shutting up about politics and being vocal about.

I still remember when this general collectively shat on Silver and defended the company. Talent freedom, amirite?

>>102655229
me when I find money

>>102655229
>suddenly

Wasnt all the money including mouse's pay from her subathon there, and it was just later split up?
Doubt it was input as a 500k sum that wasnt earmarked

>>102655300
Thanks apek

Mouse is not getting that 500k back

Live Ama reaction

Gunrun should have let Vshojo die the moment the money ran out, instead of embezzling charity funds to keep it struggling, only for the company to die anyway

>>102655333
I'm sorry that i listened to everyone that remained in the company and kept glazing it for the next two years, happy?

>His fucking defense is that he just assumed $500k just magically appeared in the company account at the same time Mouse's charity Subathon that he was helping with and made headlines in various media publications, ended and that he could use it to pay off debts.
>His defense is literally that he is a retard

>>102655368
he let her join when the ship was sinking. she has every right to be pissed

>>102655287
>advertisements that were worthless the moment they hired nazuna
>cosplayer and parties that only a few talents went to
>a gold plated lambo

>>102655369
Absolutely true. Or, he should've taken debt first. There's no excuse to borrow charity money before borrowing money from the bank.

You can see the whimsy leave Zen in real time

Personally, I think he should have been extra funny and done the pink background white text

>>102654967
you do realize you arent being paid anymore either now that the company is dissolved..

>gunrun just wantonly burned through the $11M and mouse's subathon charity donations
Pitchforks out, boys.

Hanlon's Razor says they had one account and were desperately paying off debts as soon as money came in and didnt care to check what that money was from or for

>>102655203
I'll stay here as long as the threads get baked and people post. 90% of the vtubers I like are on-topic here with little noise from discussion of other /lig/ vtubers. Some of the new monster girls are also too small to get discussed in /lig/ and I can see myself staying around to watch them, so them being on-topic in this thread is also nice.

>>102655303
When people get older they realize that there's more to life than politics.

uh someone stop Zen

Zen don't break NDA. Just because he said VShojo is shutting down doesn't mean its done so on paper yet

Silver's laughing at us bros...

Hey man, if I also found 500k in my pocket I would also pay my bills
I’m sorry g

>>102655102
FUCK YOU

Zen is gonna tell someone to kill themselves again isn't she?

Someone please make a bait thread with the "apology" so we get a few hours without the spergs here

silverschizo is on suicide watch right now KEK

>>102655229
>your biggest talent does a major event with a donothon going on
>you are aware of this and even show up in chat at times
>500k pops up in your account
>wow, I wonder where that came from?? well, mine now

>>102655455
This is very very likely correct. They never put the money from Mouse's subathon into a separate account and likely it got spent at least in part before anybody even noticed.

God what a fucking shitshow.

I just happened to find a kidney to sell! Of course I'm not thinking about where it came from.

>>102654735
OH WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A DRUNKEN SAILOR
OH WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A DRUNKEN SAILOR
OH WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A DRUKEN SAILOR
EARLY IN THE MORNING

>>102655542
rent free, whofag.

>>102655403
I mean he is so I guess it's not the worst defense.

Is Zen going to tell Gunrun to buy a chair?

>>102655539
no, just make another Nimi bait thread, that is far more potent

>>102655571
>whofag
I'm not sinderfag, silverschizo. Cry harder.

newthread
>>102655581
>>102655581
>>102655581

>>102655551
I wouldn't be surprised, but whether this all happened maliciously and intentionally or on accident doesn't matter, people got extremely fucked over by it and that's the biggest problem

>>102654598
>Dude can you read???????
Dude, people here still run with the mouse's joke about the daughter like it's rrat of the century, people are retarded like that.

>>102654735
>>102654751
Forever tarnished
Might as well change your name, and become a fisher or something.

>charity fraud
Just because Mouse said the profits were going to charity doesn't mean it's actually charity fraud, that's for when you think your donation is going directly to 501(c)(3) charity

I'm actually kind of pissed off. I'm not lying when I say actual grannies know better.

Arggh I found 500k for a fair lady called “charity”, nvm that im going to use it omw to da liqa store

>>102655512
>>102655468
I hope she ends the stream and just talks to her lawyer for a bit. I don't want her to accidentally hurt her chances or get in trouble or anything, anybody in the same position would find it hard to stay chill

>>102655102
I mean I genuinely believe it wasn't a malicious robbery and he's just actually retarded but also there are some things you don't forgive, he fucked over so many people

>>102654735
>>102654751
>I-I didn't know!
LMAO

>>102655673
anon no one is getting in trouble over this. they have no money to pursue NDA-breaking lawsuits and even if they did there would be no case
it's understandable that they're being cautious but no one is getting fucked over

>>102655571
Hi silverschizo, sucks constantly getting BTFO'd, doesn't it?

>>102654627
Lefty ones are vtweeters who bitch about vwhorejo being bunch of lewdtubers and then cry on stream about being called fat cow (not kidding btw, I've ran into 2viewer like that somewhere in the start of the year)

Right ones are almost all straight up dramaniggers.

>>102655102
bitch hasnt pay his people for months shit a whole year if my boss did this to me I'd break his fucking kneecaps

This shit is going to hit the normie circles fast, normiegroids LOVE corporate incompetence

>speaks
>brings a whole company to its knees

kneel.

>>102655102
I think he forgot to add sincerity and apology to it.

>>102656026
based pink rat

Vshojo resembles a samurai who, after performing seppuku, continued to flail about in shameful agony — and Mouse served as the kaishakunin, delivering a merciful end to its futile struggle.

>>102656026
I would in fact kneel in front of her. And feast.

maybe we should have given vshojo more revenue so this wouldn't have happened?

Why is Zen pretending to be retarded on stream rn?

>>102655460
Yes, but we are talking about internet. Political slacktivism is a bread and butter of it.

>>102656136
>pretending
this is Zen at her smartest

>>102656136
it's called acting

>Admitting to the crime
GUNRUN YOU FUCKING MORON LOL

>>102656200
he didn't admit to a crime though?

>>102656233
He literally admitted to misappropriation of charity funds. That's a crime dummy.

>>102656271
Yeah but he didn't know so probably someone else is going to bit the bullet and take it in the ass

>>102656271
>misappropriation of charity funds
vshojo isn't a charity, that crime applies only to 501(c)(3) nonprofits

Oopsies

>>102655194
Why do you think ironmouse blitzstarted that IDF tiffy overnight. IDF will be happy with the 1M, understanding to poor ironmouse situation and shut up.

>>102656313
>he didn't know
That isn't a legal excuse.

>>102656658
>you're in the jury
>"I didn't know I was laundering stolen charity money through my company"
wwyd?