Thread 102659402

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>>102659445
They might actually have no idea. Remember how long Nerissa had her family on before they found out?

>>102659461
Iofi termination or literally dying would only add to Hololive's winning streak.

>>102659392
I will help amplify the watamage spell. Sending all my hate to her right now.

the reason, why Gunruns business didn't work

ENOUGH WITH KRONII THREADS

ID members talking like they're JP/EN members.... I hate it

>It's not about the money. It's about the dreams they shattered. I shattered. All because I was too dum to believe ”TALENT FREE” was truly possible. Many future stars looked up to me, believed in me for what I'm doing.
>I'm so sorry guys, I know I let you down
Girl I'm sorry but you're just dumb as fuck, and all this happened because you were mad at holo for all the shit that happened and thought that vshojo was the complete counter of that, only to end up shilling them in such a pathetic way that even your own fans couldn't help but rise an eyebrow, you get what you give

>>102659657
Iofi you and your 10 fans that can't afford a nendroid isn't going to make gsc do anything

>>102659595
>antis are paras
what is this cope
people dont anti vtubers, they anti fanbases.

>>102659718
The Kronii threads won't stop until Napling Morale improves

>HOLY FUCK!
<HOLY FUCK!
>HOLY FUCK!
<HOLY FUCK!
>HOLY FUCK!
<HOLY FUCK!
>HOLY FUCK!
<HOLY FUCK!

IT'S HAPPENING!

>>102659595
this is invalid now btw, because a lot of income comes from views on videos and streams

>>102659402 (OP)
big owo mommy milkies

I feel like I don't want to save lewds of her anymore

>>102659819
kek

VSHOJOU TO THE MOON C'MON BROE!!!!
https://youtu.be/9NHHWu3FsHw&t=129

You cant run a succesfull org without taking a piece of the vtuber income.
And the new vtuber cant make it big without having a big structure to rely on that use that piece wisely.That is the truth.
Vshojo was a scam.
Mythic only helps those big enough and will never help to advertise or grow new talent.
Holo,niji,phase will take a big portion of the pie to keep things running.
That is reality that indies dont want to accept.

>>102659718
I will personally bake a FWMC thread on the day they win EN Gold, hell, not one but the entire bakes of the day. You'll wish for the sweet release of a Kronii thread.

>>102659595
>>102659829
and not just videos, also tweets get money from twitter so getting lots of likes/retweets means $$$

the financial dynamics have changed

???????????????????

>>102659819
What is this retard talking about
I better which prison hes being kept at later too

>>102659595
>antis
kek

>>102659657
Burn in hell, Lofi
you absolute fucking nothing of a creature

>>102659912
That tweet was originally made by someone else anon

*JULY 24TH'S FINAL EN TALLY*
>17,892: Calliope (Hololive)
>11,781: Nimi (Indie)
>10,790: Clio (Phase Connect)
>10,716: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,724: Ren Zotto (Nijisanji)
>9,487: Baelz (Hololive)
>7,692: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,433: FUWAMOCO (Hololive)
>6,018: Gigi (Hololive)

Gold for Mori Calliope alongside Hololive Myth thanks to their announcement of Myth's Anniversary Project, Silver for Nimi Nightmare and her third playthrough of this month's sensation Umamusume, and Bronze for a heavily botted Clio zatsudan.

>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)
Saba = 24p
Bijou = 18p
IRyS = 13p
Calliope = 11p
Baelz = 11p
Nimi = 10p

>>102659595
I would move hardcore fans to the perfect middle.

>>102659657
Iofi you're a indog.

JUL 2025 EN GOLD
7/1 - Raora - KeyWe : 8,072
7/2 - Saba - 1 million subscriber celebration: 61,521
7/3 - Baelz - Expedition 33: 17,033
7/4 - Saba - Resident Evil 4 : 41,190
7/5 - Vermillion - 3D Debut : 24,082
7/6 - Kiara - Birthday 3D Live: 53,043
7/7 - Gigi - Umamusume: 16,301
7/8 - Saba - Gameshow Night: 30,527
7/9 - Jurard - Umamusume: 15,487
7/10 - Bijou - PEAK : 22,886
7/11 - Saba - Static Dread: 27,684
7/12 - Saba - Mouthwashing: 21,601
7/13 - Saba - PEAK : 36,500
7/14 - Baelz - Umamusume : 15,506
7/15 - Calliope - HoloTCG Box Opening : 18,364
7/16 - IRyS - Umamusume : 14,578
7/17 - Saba - Family Feud: 26,059
7/18 - IRyS - Donkey Kong Bananza: 15,544
7/19 - Saba - Elden Ring Nightreign: 20,170
7/20 - Nimi - Elden Ring Nightreign: 21,441
7/21 - Ina'nis - News from AmiAmi: 16,068
7/22 - Kronii - The Alters: 19,707
7/23 - Saba - Donkey Kong Bananza: 15,050
7/24 - Calliope - Anniversary Announcement: 17,892

PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive EN
10x: Indie
1x: Nijisanji EN
1x: Holostars EN

PER STREAMER
9x: Saba
2x: Baelz, IRyS, Calliope
1x: Raora, Vermillion, Kiara, Gigi, Jurard, Bijou, Nimi, Ina'nis, Kronii

>>102659894
Twitter gives centro unless is specifically shilling x accounts.
>haha look i got 100 dollars in 2 week for ragebakting with MILLIONS OF INTERACTIONS
Is as much as scam as shorts. Is a marketing tool first and foremost

>>102659657
Just found out this bitch blocked me lol

>>102659657
why are you blocked anon

Saba RE4 1m dorya

>>102659947
Ah i see, still waiting for something to happen to this guy besides his message but we'll see

>>102659767
lol
It always starts with the fanbase before attacking the vtuber

>>102659989
JUL 2025 EN SILVER
7/1 - Ina'nis - News from AmiAmi: 7,971
7/2 - Cecilia - Unarchived Karoke: 13,653
7/3 - Calliope - Jump King: 14,876
7/4 - Bijou - Unarchived Karoke: 13,170
7/5 - Bijou - Umamusume: 14,216
7/6 - Hololive English - Dodgers Night: 21,107
7/7 - IRyS - Umamusume: 16,089
7/8 - Calliope - Umamusume: 16,485
7/9 - Ina'nis - Umamusume: 11,690
7/10 - IRyS - Umamusume: 20,894
7/11 - Doppio - 3D Debut: 19,578
7/12 - Bijou - Umamusume: 14,839
7/13 - Baelz - Outfit Reveal: 20,389
7/14 - Nimi - Until Dawn: 14,904
7/15 - Nimi - Until Dawn: 13,420
7/16 - Dooby - Umamusume: 8,321
7/17 - Bijou - PEAK: 13,819
7/18 - Bijou - Umamusume: 13,825
7/19 - Hololive English - Snack Fest Announcement: 14,139
7/20 - Bijou - Deltarune: 14,146
7/21 - FUWAMOCO - FUWAMOCO Morning: 5,143
7/22 - Saba - Donkey Kong Bananza: 18,601
7/23 - Jurard - Umamusume: 11,382
7/24 - Nimi - Umamusume: 11,781

PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive EN
5x: Indie
1x: Nijisanji EN
1x: Holostars English

PER STREAMER
6x: Bijou
3x: Nimi
2x: Calliope, Ina'nis, IRyS, Hololive English
1x: Saba, Dooby, Doppio, Baelz, Cecilia, FUWAMOCO, Jurard

There are SO. MUCH. PICTURES of Nimi in a wedding dress but I didn't want to offend Saplings so I recycled a picture from a previous tally, I hope you don't mind.

>>102659767
>people dont anti vtubers
???

>>102659727
you know, she actually make me hate the words "talent freedom". she praised vshojo for that slogan but she never did anything that can be considered as "talent freedom"

>>102660061
Nimi has done irreparable damage to indie reputation. Not saying anything at debut and doing debut merch and a live before announcing it was crippling

>>102660093
they're not attacking the vtuber to attack the vtuber, they're attacking the vtuber to attack the fanbase

>>102659657
jesus... just kill that branch

>>102659577
Stop memeing, watamage is not real.

>>102660110
JUL 2025 EN BRONZE
7/1 - Baelz - Yakuza 5: 7,611
7/2 - Bijou - Handcam Pack Opening: 13,176
7/3 - IRyS - Mecha Break: 13,145
7/4 - Kiara - Tasting Offcollab: 9,807
7/5 - Cecilia - Anniversary Stream: 11,710
7/6 - Gigi - Umamusume: 10,818
7/7 - Baelz - Expedition 33: 11,386
7/8 - Bijou - Umamusume: 14,085
7/9 - Nerissa - Umamusume: 9,894
7/10 - Elizabeth - Unarchived Karaoke: 12,145
7/11 - IRyS - 3.0 Model Reveal: 15,427
7/12 - Nimi - Emissary Nightmare: 13,638
7/13 - FUWAMOCO - Umamusume: 14,689
7/14 - IRyS - Gunpla Building: 13,831
7/15 - FUWAMOCO - HoloEarth: 11,666
7/16 - Jurard - Umamusume: 7,471
7/17 - Baelz - Umaumsume: 12,045
7/18 - Ina'nis - Umamusume: 12,454
7/19 - Bijou - Lies of P: 13,323
7/20 - Calliope - Jump King: 8,455
7/21 - Mint - Blade Runner: 5,048
7/22 - Bijou - Hitman: 13,900
7/23 - Kronii - PEAK: 10,848
7/24 - Clio - Zatsudan: 10,790

PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive EN
2x: Indie
1x: Holostars EN
1x: Phase Connect

PER STREAMER
4x: Bijou
3x: Baelz, IRyS
2x: FUWAMOCO
1x: Kiara, Cecilia, Gigi, Nerissa, Elizabeth, Nimi, Jurard, Calliope, Ina'nis, Mint, Kronii, Clio

>>102660112
they dont, they anti fanbases which are annoying to them

>>102659657
so is there any ID members that got their own nendo version?

>>102660166
*JULY 24TH EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*
Kaelix (Nijisanji EN): 4,657
Vantacrow (Nijisanji EN): 4,204
Freodore (Nijisanji ES): 3,812
Elira (Nijisanji EN): 2,709
Ryoma (Nijisanji EN): 2,693
Vantacrow (Nijisanji EN): 2,501
Kaelix (Nijisanji EN): 2,318
Seible (Nijisanji EN): 2,215
Pippa (Phase Connect): 2,055
Vox (Nijisanji EN): 1,885
Mari Mari (Phase Connect): 1,848
Finana (Nijisanji EN): 1,762
Rie (Phase Connect): 1,659
Airi (Phase Connect): 1,622
Eepy Sleepy (Phase Connect): 1,607
Rie (Phase Connect): 1,315
Alban Knox (Nijisanji EN): 1,274
Bettel (Holostars EN): 1,226
Clara (Phase Connect): 1,210
Dizzy (Phase Connect): 1,150
Zeal (Nijisanji EN): 1,099
Axel (Holostars EN): 1,082 (BARELY QUALIFYING WITH A 3RD ANNIVERSARY STREAM HAHAHAHAHAH)
Meloco (Nijisanji "EN"): 1,033

The Cope Tally is defined as those streamers that have between 1000 and 4999 concurrent viewers on their stream of the day.

Cope Gold goes to Kaelix Debonair, from the new generation of Nijisanji's EN botted...very botted talents. Silver goes to Vantacrow Bringer (lol) and Bronze for Mexico's pride, Freodore from Nijisanji EN.

>>102659657
Well at least she knows enough to blame Goodsmile and not Cover this time
Let's face it, if Yagoo was to have his way, every single talents will have a nendo, including the homos.

>>102659657
How many people here would buy it?

>>102660082
holo could never

>>102659819
>>102659912
And fags wonder why people keep falling for obvious fake news

>>102660194
I suspect Kaela and Kobo might be in line and that is why iofi is doing this

>>102660226
I would buy it only to burn it on camera, I hate Iofi so goddamn much it's unreal.

>>102660123
Damaging to the 30 schizos at most on this board

>>102660226
jurard and maybe shiori will buy it

>>102660226
Only if Iofi paints it

>>102660194
Nope
Now ask yourself why Pekora has not 1 but 2 nendos.
Kek

>>102660314
Truly a mystery

there is so much nimi cuck porn in the nimi tag on twitter, im on round 10

>>102659657
>I ALREADY IN THE BUISNESS FOR 6 YEARS
>DO I NEED TO 1 MIL SUBS FIRST OR WHAT
thats actually a good question she should be asking herself how the fuck has she been in holo for 6 years and not reached 1 million yet? zeta and kaela are both getting close and have only been in half the time she has

saved 2 dollars by ordering from the ghost kitchen version of buffalo wild wings instead of the main store

Hololive, even as a shell of its former glory, is still the most powerful agency by an order of magnitude...

>>102660123
I would have respected her announcement if she didn't do it after draining her cucklings wallets

>Kson: No cons in joining Vshojo
>Silvervale:

>>102660407
Good for you

This once again proves that corpos can't be trusted no matter how good they may seem. They're all either evil or incompetent or both

>>102660314
3* default, fgo collab and school uniform (1st costume)

So wait it's over already? It's only been a few days I feel like they should've milked this vshojo drama for at least a couple weeks, what's the next big drama for everyone to get behind?

>>102660437
nice bait

>>102660428
the vast majority of her money came from people who supported fauna, not nimi.

FUCKING
TRUTH
NUKE

>>102660429
Kekson should be held accountable for shilling that garbage

>>102660405
she should ask why kobo doesn't have one yet

>>102660123
She doesn't really give a fuck at this point, arguably she never did, but all her little stunt does is raise standards even more from the viewer's side. Meaning that people will quadruple-think it over before investing time into watching a vtuber now, more than before. Based Nimi making the female-dominated job become harder for younger women, because she doesn't care or need to pretend anymore, she's had her fun and it's done now. If the others have a harder time succeeding, then fuck 'em, who cares. Real cold boomer style shit right there.

>>102660429
There is a lot that raises eyebrows when going through the things she said, does anyone have her posts from when silver and co left?

>>102660293
Napcuck cope

>>102660429
Full text of that?

>>102660474
Your still supported her if you gave her money before the announcement though.

we need another fuwamoco for EN5

https://www.twitch.tv/hoshigamitwins

>>102660474
>i don't follow her but
heh, classic

>>102660515
Too long
Go to that subreddit and search for "Silvervale"

>>102660463
It needed to be over quickly before people start to analyze it too much

>>102660474
>Priest analogy
So that's why there are so many shotacon vtubers...

>>102660474
who are the molested kids in this analogy?

>Dooby didn't know which means Saba might have not known either
>next day Saba and Dooby are playing Nightreign offstream with unnamed friend(Mumei) instead of Nimi
I'm not a schizo but...

Melodys boyfriend
>>102660417

>>102660474
Hallelujah

>>102660474
Based sigma

Ah, you gave money to hololive which means fauna/nimi got your money and you feel angry about this.

>>102660376
Chill out phasebro at least take a minute to hydrate

>>102660474
WHY CAN'T THEY JUST LIE AND SAY THAT THEY ARE FANS??
Every fucking time with these people

>>102660242
Holo EN (or any other EN chuuba) can't except for debuts, graduations, or some gigantic drama
Holo JP does it like every other week
Talking about streams only, MVs and shorts are a very different story

>>102660551
Saba

>>102660474
>saba emoji

Nimi will stream soon to raid Mint.

>>102660429
silvervale's contract was from the first batch. they probably negotiated something real sweet for kson to get her in. the real question is why the early vshojo didn't speak up about their own contract when kson was bragging about her deal?

>>102659829
what? didn't streams make up only a tiny tiny portion of hololives revenue according to the finance reports? It's mostly merch isn't it? (that's the main reason everyone's copying their "idol model" btw)

>>102659767
>people dont anti vtubers
Fuck kind of parallel universe did you come from

>>102660534
Prime example of Twitter faggot moral grandstanding to make himself look more virtuous. I bet they would feel different if it was their oshi that revealed something like that

>>102660474
A bit extreme and completely different worlds, but you know what? the priest and church connection is pretty good and accurate. Streamers SHOULD sacrifice something for the audience and the profits they gain like it is for other jobs, it should never be all win for them and all losses for the audience, which is what streamers advocate for by the way, that's why they love to preach about the "parasocial" meme word.

>>102660474
Priests are known kiddy diddlers who break their vows so it's actually pretty fitting, just not in the way that guy thought

>>102660474
>saba emoji
uh oh sababros..

>>102660555
Don't forget on Monday, Nimi said she wanted to play more Nightrein, kek

>>102660557
Well theres another yab

>>102660601
She cant either all the time or most of time either, ccv keeps dropping.

>>102660474
Who are either of these faggots and why should I give a flying fuck about what they think?

>>102660242
Marine's return stream

>>102660474
You need to be an adult to post here.

OH NO NO NON O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HOLOBROS!
>HOW DO WE RESPOND TO THIS?!?!?
Anon got you guys good!
>Niji does pay their artists.
>Unlike Hololive who needed Japanese Government to step up to tell them to pay their artists.

Nijisanji NEVER faced accusations of stiffing artists!

>>102660242
Bitch please
BEHOLD
A FUCKING WATCHALONG

Nimi will do a ultra cute 3D stream today to win back the cucks who are 50/50 about leaving her. She'll accidentally show an upskirt and bounce her tits. (He) gave her permission to do this to help fund their new Prius.

>>102660557
I don't follow vshojo, what is the significance of this

>>102660727
Who cares? that strat never works

>>102660527
I like them

>>102660760
He was the COO of the company and he's the one that nuked his linkedin recently so he's definitely at fault, which makes Melody not knowing anything extremely unlikely unless she's really retarded (which honestly she is)

>>102660727
>Niji does pay their artists
Didn't they want to essentially have Selen's outfit contest to be a way to steal designs with 0 compensation even though Selen wanted to pay out of her own pocket?

>>102660729
Isn't that a game?

>>102660625
only collab streams get counted as a hololive stream

>>102660812
Also the Japanese government warning affected them too lmao this is absurd

>>102660817
The same way peope watch Kakarot streams for the gameplay
As in, nobody.
It's a watchalong in all but name

>>102660727
Anyone who actually worked with them vouched for them when they made their statement so that was inconsequential and that's not even when factoring in what deals they made with the government to serve as an example.

>>102659657
Oh boy she's going to seethe when a random vtuber that debuted only a month ago suddenly gets a nendo. I wonder if she'll address her directly.

Hololive was so black that the japanese government had to bitchslap them?
Why would anyone defend such a company?

>>102660863
In fact, people should be more bothered with how cleanly they cooperated with it since it borders on government support but these retards never go for things that could matter for their causes.

>>102660885
almost as black as your dad lmao

>Hulk is dead
Unironically the worst news of this week so far, this sucks

>>102660262
>Kobo
She doesn't have fans anymore.

>>102660885
>>102660812

https://x.com/ksononair/status/1948471162021052917
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1948471162021052917
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1948471162021052917
I miss this bitch...

>>102660944
I get the feeling that we are entering a death spiral with some celebrities

>>102660944
Hulk couldn't even sell 1k tickets for his new corpo he's literally a worse draw than Nimi the non-singer kwab

>>102660931
Why are anons sluts for a (You)

>>102660931
Why do so many Japanese women have that ugly haircut when they have such beautiful long shiny black hair

>>102660405
Teminder that gura lapped her 4 times and saba lapped her again and shes going to probably lap her twice more before iofi gets to 1 m in the same timeframe
Honestly how big does the skill diff have to be for someone to considering roping themselves?

>>102660194
I would suspect ID3 getting their nendos before someone at gsc even bothers to look up iofi's socials

>>102659657
Goodsmile must have asked her to draw a sketch of what it's supposed to look like, she drew the eyes too close together and they said "hmm nah that's too ugly we can't do it" and she's been malding ever since

>>102661009
I like it
They do it for me and not you

>>102660997
Shes so so stupid

>>102660499
I still don't get why she had to post it on main.

>>102660984
>other companies are bad so it's ok if cover abuses their talent
?

as if the situation was not bad enough, bongs are graduating from 4chan

>>102660605
Not one of us, probably just an ligger pretending to like or watch her just because shes an indie
That or a phasecuck shitstirring

>>102661075
Shes a cunt that doesnt care about her fans, that will keep watching regardless apparently.

>>102660997
>said absolutely nothing for years
>alluded to nothing for years
>pretended everything was fine up until the very point it was not possible to do so anymore
Reminder that it was already red alert when Nyanners, Veibae and Silver left in 2023.

>>102661116
You really don't have a clue about what it was about do you?

>>102660123
It was hololive that took a massive hit, nimi proved that any hololive talents can just leave and reveal they've been cucking you for years. what's the point of the walled garden? their NDAs failed.

>>102661031
I want it so bad just to piss iofi off

The rage she will express will get her shit canned hard.

>>102661124
How many more graduations can we get bros

>>102661124
Saars...

>>102661116
>their talent
???
At least learn how the plot goes you fucking retard

>>102661116
you changed your story from artist to talent real quick there

>>102661124
1/3 of the Indians on this site are about to be killed...

>>102661124
Bewildered American man learns of new race treason committed by the British government that he didn’t even think possible

>>102661162
Acting this pathetic under that tweet and somehow riling retarded virtue signalling fans to force cover/gsc to do something should get her slapped at least

>>102661147
Yeah, this is all theater to clean her hands of everything she parroted through the years and honestly, she is doing a good job at acting like a clueless retard

>hololive takes 50%
holy black company
>>102661176

>>102661124
ERB won't be able to post here anymore...

>>102660997
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>she fell for the "talent freedom" meme
COME ON KSON, APOLOGIZE TO TANIGO!
>MAYBE HE LETS YOU TO COME BACK AS "AFFILIATED" AFTER THE FACT!

>>102661075
"People will congratulate me as Nimi if I did it on LL anyway"

VSHOJOU TO THE MOON C'MON BROE!!!!
https://youtu.be/9NHHWu3FsHw&t=129

>>102661124
Why not fucking Indonesia or Philippines

>>102661286
I look forward to hear about the next nigerian prince she comes into contact with

TALENT FREEDOM IS DEAD

>>102661124
Link or gtfo

>>102661299
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>102661299
>>102661384
>it's not about the money

>>102661124
pissing on the grave of that one Scottish retard

>>102661147
To be fair, what's been super consistent across all testimonies is how they were basically either contractually obligated to keep quiet about it, or risking way too much by being a whistleblower since their good image was so strong.

Nyan's boyfriend is about to go all out on MowTenDoo

>>102661353
It should've been SEA...

>>102661401
>>102661429
turns out Cover was taking the least after all

>>102660051
Do you know why? whatever you said worked kek

Bros check out the vshojo thread some dude is exposing their "leaker" that tried to get one girl to say nigger

>>102661353
That image is fake but they do need to make a decision soon because bongs are requiring strict age checks to use the internet now. Some sites are requiring photo id.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/24/what-are-the-new-uk-online-safety-rules-and-how-will-they-be-enforced

>>102659577
Thanks, I don't want her tainting my pure Rissa.

>>102661124
Does this only show up if you log in from a British IP?

>>102661467
>tried to corner talents into saying nigger
ok, this is getting hilarious

>>102661476
KEK
>NIJISANJI takes 98%
>COVER takes 50%
>VSHOJO takes 100%
KNEEL

>>102661299
this bitch really unironically believes she's vtuber jesus isn't she

>>102661323
she did burn it all down in the end
now she's just chillin
https://youtu.be/v4dADTeZFTA?t=4165

Vshojo managers were sexually harassing talents
lol

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1948475003252736385
>2%
Niji
>50%
???

>>102661429
That's a neat way of confirming that Cover takes a 50% cut.

>>102661542
>she really was about to tear it down burn it down
>it wasn't holo
BRAVO KOJIMA

Stream today

>>102661558
holy cope

HORY SHITO
>>102661408

are people denying they take 50%?

>>102661124
I wish this was true... I hate britniggers so much...

>>102661542
>Ash Again was about Vshojo

>>102661558
*back then, it could probably be nego'd for bigger in holos' favor now that the company having decent cash flow

>>102661635
Hail

Hololive wins again by minding their own business and not chasing rushed profits. Never fucking doubt Hololive again.

>>102661556
Holo

>>102661626
?
Enlighten us as to which corpo she could be referring to if we know who 2% Inc. is, then

>people talking about VShojo being cringe because of horny and sex jokes
>these same people are fans of Coco, who made a joke about a dragon tail buttplug
IF YOU COULD SEND THE CURRENT VSHOJO PREDICAMENT BACK IN TIME; HOW FUN WOULD IT BE?!

>>102661556
hololive

>>102660082
hololive btfo'd

>>102659657
Can't she just 3D print it herself?
Unironically if she 3D prints like 3 nendos and sell them via an auction she'll make more than her official nendo ever could

>>102661556
holo
that's the only corpo kson can be confident about lmao, almost like she worked there

>>102661763
She wants an official one so she can her handful of fans can gawk at in the gsc store and not buy it

>>102661075
Best time and place to say it for her
Before that time and itd hurt her numbers because her regulars would find it easier to detach themselves
In a few months shell start having pregnancy ills and she wont be able to hide the baby (she doesnt care enough to try) and more fans would leave her if they found out that way
If she was trying to do the right thing she wouldve announced it in the redebut (and itd be totally fine and i believe not a single "person" would complain, its normal to want kids at her age and it wouldve been seen as a "she left the idol company into retirement" sort of thing) or she wouldve done her hardest to hide it from her fans, still trying to protect their happiness as long as she could even if it was hard
Because she never cared about this and this was always a job for her, and her viewers are just sacks of cash that turn hours streamed into numbers in her bank account she did it the way she did
Nothing personal, like she always said it was, if you cared you are just an autistic loser that saw things that werent there

>>102660082
when she's gonna finish it?

>>102661778
Gives me piratesoftware vibes of yea I worked at this big company once upon a time

>>102661556
so she was making fun of niji's 2% cut when it leaked while she was getting 0%?

So when are these getting to 1 million? Why even brag debut vod numbers?

How did the holo cut work now again? If i remember right some of it was also factoring in the cut from youtube

>>102659402 (OP)
Kronii sexo

>>102661384
>>102661429
How can you still find a way to shit on her after this? put the zealot hat down for 2 sec holdrone.

>>102661763
Her fans can only afford acrylic keychains

>>102661859
50% after YouTube cut

>>102661556
Holo takes 50% and Niji takes 98%

>>102661859
30% youtube
35% cover
35% talent

>>102661853
she was clearly not earning 0% back then. she said she hasn't been paid since sep 2024, way after the 2% saga.

>>102659657
If HoloID had good management, someone would gently tell Iofi she's embarrassing herself and the branch with this constant whining. I don't know what she's trying to accomplish, Goodsmile isn't going to make nendos that won't sell, you don't get them as an entitlement just because you work in the same company as prominent commercially successful talents.
The fact that she's just being allowed to crash out like this constantly without getting "bonked" almost seems like a sign that nobody even gives a fuck what she does, which isn't a good thing for her.

hi #! i hope you're all well! i wonder what the next big game that blows up and everyone plays will be :0

>MR. PRESIDENT
>A SPACE SHUTTLE JUST HIT THE REMAINING TOWER!
https://x.com/Digitrevx/status/1948441105063674339

Here is an expose on VShojo COO (the person in charge of operations)
>COO? Allow me to introduce to you the boyfriend, and guy that handled all of Melody's negotiations before Vshojo ever existed.
>The guy some of you found in the sex videos before melody was melody.
>The guy that wrote the very first e-mail to me on Deviant art about making Melody. Including the e-mail that ended things by soured things between Melody and I by making claims he can get the same support I offer for a fraction of the cost.
>Historically it lead to a long term technical struggles and kit bashed art for melody since this e-mail made me want to stop supporting and his attempt to take advantage didn't go over well.

>This is a person that stiffed the room modeler for Melody and didn't inform me even though he was my recommendation and contact.
>This is guy that was constantly responding to me using Melody's account making it confusing to get anything done.
>Yes this person has been deeply involved in so much behind the scenes.
>I've shut my self off to anything vshojo for my own mental health but to learn today this guy is a COO at vshojo is shocking.
kek, Melody bf is VShojo COO (consistent with the fact she's one of the founders alongside Gunrun).

>>102660727
>Nijisanji NEVER faced accusations of stiffing artists!
they did
they just gag you so it was easier to shit on cover which doesn't do it
and which by the way still paid the artists in full

>>102661879
Why should i praise her for standing by and not getting paid for a year and still pretend that everything was fine until the entire thing collapsed?
I will applaud her for playing along this whole savior spiel but in no way in hell will i ever trust a word she ever says

>>102661859
Different revenue streams have different cuts. For example, stream revenue is like 30% YT and 35%/35% Cover/Talent

one of the ex vshojos also just slipped up and revealed what we all knew, zentraya is a man
someone asked if zen would make their own corpo
''well if he.....''*awkward laugh

>>102661859
youtube takes 30% (approx), cover takes half of the rest.

You were wrong about Shiori's post-homo decline and you will be wrong about Nimi's decline, too. Accept the L for once and move on.

>>102661994
kek

>>102660997
when will she crawl out of her ass??? you'd think NOW would be the time
jeez

>>102662009
stop sucking corpo dick

>>102662094
Like she has been doing?

>>102662000
Eh, isn't this the guy who tried to steal her model from her out of spite when she had already paid her for it? Feels like he's bullshitting for attention

>>102662000
If they don't send someone to prison, I'm just going to assume Ironmouse stole everyone's money.

>>102661859
YT takes its cut. then halfsies on stream revenue. finally the taxman says hi

I think all this drama has finally convinced me to drop vtubers and goon to AI girls instead

>>102660863
It's funny since in the same article artists said that Niji drastically underpays them compared to Cover (but they take it like good boys because they're niji fans)

>>102662060
Shioris decline, numbers were literally posted yesterday about it. Nimi is wait and see like usual.

AIEEEEEEE, THE BLOWS KEEP COMING!

>>102661558
Not really, she may be talking about vshojo 2022-2023.

>>102662157
Come to fish.

>>102662117
she repented, you didn't. put that dick down anon.

>>102661994
>>102662000
>>102662033
The barrel is still not at the bottom and everyone is taking potshots at everyone

>>102662186
VShojo cut was zero or 100.
>zero for self produced merch
>100 for company produced merch

>>102662191
sorry not paying for baby formula

>>102662157
Theres a very cute indie AI vtuber that recently debuted called sameko saba
At least i think shes ai since i dont think anyone real can be that perfect
Also she squeaks like sneakers in a gym occasionally and only a robot can do that

>>102661401
>>102661429
bro she's crashing out....

>>102662210
I have nothing to repent for and i don't expect her to do so either despite leading on people, which is just how life is sometimes.

>>102661635
Chiitan is the only good thing about Twitter aside from the holos

Reminder that you couldn't have predicted this week just one week ago. You literally cannot fathom what gigayab could happen next week.

>>102662238
It's cheap and Saba doesn't drink much of it.

>>102662212
Mouse knows who's been doxxing people but can't say yet

>>102661556
This is old news. Spoonfeeding the newfags who don't know why birthday/anniversary merch is king in Hololive https://x.com/ksononair/status/1656314005458411521

>>102662319
Um did she mean that she drank actual baby formula all this time? Uuhh bros i was giving her my "baby formula" all this time

Yab
https://x.com/LichVtuber/status/1948468587770835426

>>102662242
srsly, how does she squeak like that?

>>102661496
Can't they just ignore her majesty's royal protectorate internet censorship bureau ministry and not comply with their Internet Website Loicense or whatever?
If 4chan is a US/Japanese corp, why bother caring about brit idiocy? If they don't like it, his majesty's government can filter the website themselves for their miserable, impoverished, isolated island people.

OH NO NO NO NO NO
>HAHHAHAHAHA

>>102662329
don't do it mouse he will leak your secret daughter

I wonder how long it will take for people to bring up old Vshojo drama. Like that one time they held fake auditions, leaked all auditionees and ended up hiring nobody who auditioned.

>>102661859
they unironically get 2% from random keychains just like niji LOL

>>102662440
Bout to go down

>>102662157
Things are pretty peaceful if you just watch hololive

>>102662329
Ironmouse doxxed everyone and stole their money until she can prove otherwise and send the real culprits to prison.
500k last seen in her pockets.

>>102662387
Did she ever donate to that charity like she said she would?

>>102662308
someone predicted Nimi's shit 4 years ago but he got called Fauna schizo and the fall of Vshojo could be seen since Zentreya's "graduation"

>>102662457
That is already floating around but Nux is such a radioactive retard that it gets confirmations and murmurings of "nux was right" before moving on

>>102662381
Actually as far as we know birthday merch or when talents specifically push for personalized merch the cuts are much better
We dont have numbers for it, but talents nssically implied in the past that cover barely gets anything out of it and the overwhelming majority of it goes to them (since they have to do a ton of work to get that)
Conversely they MIGHT get lesser cuts on ultra basic merch like the permanent stuff

>>102662425
NO REFUNDS

>>102662418
>Can't they just ignore
That's Hiromoot modus operandi even in Japan. He just ignores non binding lawsuits and tell them to enforce whatever penalties
>they can't, there are none

>>102662000
not bad
but we need to go even DEEPER

>>102661496
>they do need to make a decision soon
No shit the bongs will bankrupt 4chan within a day, it's a minimum fine of 18 million crumpets if a website is accessible from the UK without the orwellian ID verification services.

>>102662519
>predicted
We have 0 info besides what came out of her own mouth, god schizos are worthless

>>102662540
Yeah, the more yourself invest, the bigger the cut you receive and that if anything should be industry standard

>>102662000
>>102661994
>>102662173
>>102662308
A piece to commemorate these past few days

>>102659727
Wasn't it doomed to fail because it really just looked like the retirement home for already popular vtubers or ones who already had huge connections? She feels like she wanted to prove indies had the pull without an organization, but all that has been proven over these years is people tower over others and then use that pull wherever they go. But the people who followed her from Holo were interested in joining the wild west, not remaking a corpo. That is what is wrong with her, and a lot of people trying to do the same thing with trying to incorporate people who hate anime and idol stuff into these spaces. It just don't work. The indie community is just made to tear itself apart fundamentally, and people that escape that mindset and methodology usually section themselves off when they can. I guess valiant, we'll I can't say effort, but at least the intention was good?

Apparently the cofounder is the doxfag

>>102661354
>So now do you believe me when I say MTD was sexpest faggot that was trying to fuck Silver
>I am fucking sure he was sexually harassing her
>>102662412
>Mouse just DM'd something to Aethel that is making him rage
>It's 100% proof of MTD being doxxing sexpest

>>102662415
Exception for Kaela, she is a honorary EN

AIEEEEEEE KSONTOMOS!
>DEFEND THIS!

>>102662402
Its the cute trying to escape her body (she is the cute singularity (there is no escape))
Either that or one of her ancestors was a chubby bunny (i dont have images on this device but imagine th#t image of her with marshmallows on her mouth)

>>102662173
DEEPER

>>102659727
>you were mad at holo for all the shit that happened
? She was a fan always

>>102662657
Rotten from the core
What could they have done?

>>102661323
watamage punished vshojokeks... they got too cocky...

>>102662329
and so do we

>>102662492
>>102662657

>>102662657
Noooo but the ex holo staff rrats

>>102662657
TOP KEK, THEY'RE SAYING THE UPPER MAMANGEMENT WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE ONE OF THEM TO SAY "NIGGER" ON STREAM
>WELLLLL HOLOBROS?!?!??!?!?!?!
IF IT WORKED FOR MIKO.....

>>102662669
Nice try but they made it out like bandits from this one

>>102662602
Should be counting your blessings it isn't 28 billion Greggs sausage rolls.

>>102662657
Ironmouse is deflecting.
Where's the money, bitch?

>>102662669
>proctor
every dramanigger is just coming out of the woodwork

>>102662735
Surprised it wasn't henya since she's esl

>>102662649
fuck is nimi doing there?

>>102662772
Oii do yeh have a loicense for 'hat 'ausage roll?!?!

>>102662649
Kek

>>102662735
https://www.youtube.com/@MowtenDoo/videos
Yeah, MTD was a big edgy youtuber before.

what is the least dangerous type of food poisoning
trying to lose weight

>>102662540
They do get lesser cuts on the branch-wide or full gen acrylic standos.
We numberfag them mostly for fun but the difference between FWMC selling 1000 acrylic stands and Raora selling 100 is order of hundreds of dollars.
It's why none of the established girls shill them.

>>102662657
Who is MTD

>>102662669
deserved for being a dramanigger
on both ends

>>102662735
Here is said manager, BTW
>FAMILY
kek

>>102662856
Just raise a tapeworm

>Holo is not a bad company because the people that left didn't say anything bad
Meanwhile the people that left Vshojo didn't say shit for like 2 years.

>>102662847
Hope he gets back to this. He's a good editor

The vshojo shit sure has escalated.

>>102662863
Hundreds of dollars to the girls but much more to the company
Its still worth to numberfag imo even if fans should buy other merch instead

>>102662906
Anon? Silvervale, Nyanner and Veibae left in very bad terms and so did Zentreya recently and Matara

>>102662883
>>102662847
Cofounder of Vshojo

>>102662735
I feel like I've heard that one before

Little lore drop!

>>102662901
So vshojo had their own rapist sexpest too

>>102662825
buried in mr nightmare's love

>>102662906
Sana, Coco, Rushia still have not said a single word either. How many more years until the curse is broken?

>>102662906
Coco graduated in 2021
Rushia was terminated in 2022
Sana graduated in 2022

>So where's that half a million dollars, Ironmouse?
>uhhhhhhh RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!

>AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHEN I SAY "NYANNERS" YOU SAY "SORRY"

>NYANNERS!
<SORRY!
>NYANNERS!
<SORRY!
>NYANNERS!
<SORRY!
>NYANNERS!
<SORRY!
>NYANNERS!
<SORRY!
>NYANNERS!
<SORRY!
APOLOGIZE!

>>102662649
>INDIE AVEN-ACK

>>102662965
I was more thinking of guras earrape shitlost but you can also insert your random british indie this day too fellow anon
It is a causa for celebration after all

>>102663036
roru

Why didnt she just say nigger? It’s not like she hasn’t done it before

>>102662856
Ciguatera

>>102662329
>can't say
Refuse to say. She's protecting abusers.

>>102663072
SORRY NYANNERS

>>102662906
Public companies are required to have public financials. That's how we know, despite how fucked up they are, even Anycolor is a legitimate business.
Vshojo's are not.

>>102663072
Pink cat...

VSHOJO COLLAPSE REACHED MAINSTREAM!

>>102663072
pink cat good

>>102662602
Oh my god, the Bobbies are going to roll up to 4chan's UK headquarters on Derbyshire Lane in Downton Abbey Street just off Washford and Saxton and 24th in West London (next to the open sewer piss pits and eel vendors) and confiscate all their billions pence in revenue and throw Hiromoot into Gaol

>>102663132
I don't know much about PC Gamer's history but in present day they're a gutter tabloid.

>>102663072
Pink cat... good?

>>102662906
bro
they literally weren't getting paid
what the fuck do you think cover is doing lmao? we literally know they are paying more than the competition
is management retarded? yeah
are permission and rules annoying? for sure
but every rule and shit is in place to protect both talents and corpo and comes from hololive having some kind of yab every fucking months and getting banned left and right. Are some of rules overreaction and corpo retardation? most certainly
but it is really not for us to fix

>>102663132
Holy dogpiling

>>102662906
the people who left vshojo left in very clearly bad terms. much like magni and vesper did on the homo side. there hasn't been a single instance of any ex-holo ever implying some shady practice they left for.

>>102662669
>blocked kiwifarms 2 owner
Kinda based.

>>102663132
thank you page of gaming... wait

>>102663072
Vshojo is handing easy wins to literally everyone.

>>102663072
Meaningless words at this juncture.

>>102663072
>>102663047
I love how her and veibae are trying to get themselves in this shitshow spotlight ss if this was why they left
If this was why they left either:
1) everyone that stayed in vshojo these last few years like ironmouse and such are absolute scum
Or
2) well known shameless whores just happened to eat shit peacefully to dodge drama and take full blame instead for being washed streamers that were retiring to be with their boyfriends and willingly protected vshojo by tanking their own numbers instead
Yeah, not buying the whole "this was the issue all along, trust me guys watch me for drama again!!! Please i need the numbers"

>>102663072
Nah fuck off, she's still a cunt.

>>102663253
>>102663266
LESS DEFLECTING, MORE APOLOGIZING!
>APOLOGIZE NOW!

Warned but did not heed
Prepare for nuclear attack
Extermination
Strike back
Chose not to believe
Another nuclear attack

>>102662962
They didn't say anything bad, they just refused to mention anything vshojo related.

>>102663183
YET
The moment fwmc graduate, mococo will air out all the shady business dealings fuwawa did behind closed doors

>>102663072
hmm... nah

>>102662129
https://x.com/Digitrevx/status/1948481242833277384
Doesn't look like bullshit to me.

>>102662033
Clip or shitpost.

>>102663177
I think his argument lies in the fact that until the IronMouse new broke, VShojo was supposed to be "fine" and the had no major known issues
they had previously had disagreements with talents, some of which left in bad terms, but Cover also fired someone on bad terms with Rushia, and has had several disagreements with the Holos. He's arguing in favor of an imaginary "what if" scnario in which the holos are being treated badly behind the scenes simply because that already happened twice with two other vtuber agency that until news dropped seemed no worse than Hololive

>>102663253
>1) everyone that stayed in vshojo these last few years like ironmouse and such are absolute scum
Anon literally both sides explained why they thought the other was wrong, it basically boiled down to Vshojo talking to each side behind the other's back and pitting them against each other. Did you watch a single fucking statement or are you just threadreading?

>>102663327
Fuwawas farts cant be that bad

>>102662669
>Dramanigger
>Doxfaggot
>>Literal leech.
Kson I kneel

women pettiness kek

【Feetcam】Naughty Nimi pregnant feetcam whilst hubby is out!~ | Month #7

HERE ANON!
>A LITTLE PALATE CLEANSER FROM ALL THIS DRAMA
YUMMY!

>>102663275
lmao the whole thing is shutting down what's left to defend?

SSSUUUPPPPPEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR FUCKED

>>102663413
>quick gunrun, we need to get vt back to cuckposting asap!!!

>>102663072
Nyanners sing pomf again and I will forgive you

why are people so butthurt about Rushia?

>>102663334
It'd be funny since it means Melody knew this entire time about the embezzlement AND the doxxing.

>>102663380
That's not even double, which would be 13

>>102663358
Yeah and they didnt ever talk to eachother outside of through vshojo
Not a single discord message asking for why or how im sure of it
Its not like were friends that spent 2 years together, or even if they werent they didnt have the curiosity to even send 1 dm to ssk about this
Like holy shit how retarded do you have to be to believe that

>>102662906
Veibae explicitly said the reason she didn't say anything was because of NDA, and that the reason she's saying shit now is because they clearly won't have the money to sue her for it.

>>102663072
SHOW THE LOGS.
Did Ironmouse put 500k in?
Did someone take 500k out?
Who?
Where did it go?
Until they answer this, Ironmouse is the last one seen holding the money.

>>102663007
>>102663027
The only reason Nyan and the rest are spilling the beans is because Mouse effectively destroyed them after a single incident. It is now that everything is piling up.
I'm sure these companies have like 5-10 years NDAs or some shit.

>>102663482
what makes you ask this out of nowhere?

>>102663355
>with two other vtuber agency that until news dropped seemed no worse than Hololive
niggas really saying shit like this as if we haven't been seeing what's happening for years

>>102662906
Saba has basically aired out the reason why she graduated already, on stream, both during her graduation and now as she talks about the future though, and it's all reasonable policies from Cover's perspective, even if the policies are annoying.

>>102663447
AIEEEEEEE, DELET!
>I missed this!

>>102663488
Why the fuck would they message each other for clarification when they're under the assumption they knew the whole story? Are you stupid? Also we're talking about women.

>>102663355
>but Cover also fired someone on bad terms with Rushia
let's not pretend that rushia wouldn't crawl back if by some miracle she was allowed to
>and has had several disagreements with the Holos
holos shit on management openly
they don't need coward shit like vshojo whores
>He's arguing in favor of an imaginary "what if" scnario in which the holos are being treated badly behind the scenes simply because that already happened twice with two other vtuber agency that until news dropped seemed no worse than Hololive
I know
he is retarded and knows nothing about hololive

>>102663529
>out of nowhere
>got mentioned by some butthurt anons earlier in the thread
?

>>102663443
I'm sorry but the retouching is horrifying

Btw it's confirmed that Henya was strategically debuted to cover for the 3 girls leaving but that shouldn't really be a surprise, all corpos try to cover bad news with good news. Which is why I'm surprised there's no EN5 yet.

>>102663613
Mel too

>>102663513
>Until they answer this, Ironmouse is the last one seen holding the money.
Gunrun literally says he saw the 500k and basically thought "hey free money!!".

>>102663613
You know nothing about Hololive either Pablo, that's the real point.

>>102663447
for some reason, super3D has returned...

>>102663642
I'll be sincere, if you even GLANCED at anything above collar bone height you are CONFIRMED FOR HOMOSEX

>>102663633
every single mention of rushia in this thread has been in the context of that anon's post where he was saying ex-holos haven't talked shit about cover. not a single one of them makes any judgement of character against rushia.

>>102661819
At the end of the day, she, and the other ex-Holos will have to decide if they really want to foster and keep a community, or just bask in being the personality at the center of something and then book it after the allure fades. Its hard to keep interested in a fandom for some who are actually invested, if you aren't, then good luck.

>>102662060
Interacting with men =/= being actually, unironically, married and getting your back blown out

So how does cover cash in on this? Drop more ENs? Make a bigger push on whats left on the EN market? Or the actual thing they will do. Just focus on JP

>>102663599
>Why the fuck would they message each other for clarification when they're under the assumption they knew the whole story?
Youve never had a friend or worked in a company
Not even joking when i say that because the alternative is that you are so retarded you probably coildnt figure ot how a keyboard works
Although to be fair with chatgpt voice nowadays...

So, just Gigi and Mori today?

>>102663665
I can't believe he admitted to charity fraud with the worst excuse of all time, that guy doesn't have a lawyer.

>>102663661
what mel did unironically was worse than rushia lol but corpo reacted much more lenient because she obviously wasn't a married ticking time bomb

>>102663753
Just do nothing, there is a LOT of space for other companies to fck themselves to death before Holo has to make any move
The absolute BEST thing Holos did was chilling and only posting about playing Tamagotchi together

>>102663606
>Both Nyan and vei unfollowed Mel on X
Oh no

>>102663613
>knows nothing about hololive
This thread doesn't know jack shti about Hololive either, until less than half a year ago, no one knew that the holos pay for their own sololives despite it being know in the JP scene since Stellar into the Galaxy

>>102663753
Wait it out. Let the rest kill themselves off. Then cherry pick all the best talents that desperately come knocking at your door and will work hard once they're in.

>>102663523
I can't believe cover ninjas are more powerful than AAA gaming studios and ex white house staff

>>102663761
Su and Nodoka are also streaming today

>>102663688
I watch streams lol So yeah I know something

>>102663781
>that guy doesn't have a lawyer.
He has, kek, his practicing license was expired and he's likely the one that cooked the whole scheme saying "don't worry, it's legal!"

>>102663355
>seemed no worse
WE ARE TELLING YOU VSHOJO WAS DOGSHIT SINCE THE START SAME WITH NIJI.

But sure go on retard keep trusting twitter and plebbit.

>>102663706
i got meido'd by telling anons that they're of a certain color
I'm anyhow excited for HoloNatsu

>>102663723
The whole package isn't attractive.

>>102662669
Oh no no no ahahaha

How much longer did vwhorejos think they could coast on "nobody knew" when everybody and their mother published "my experience with vshojo" vids? Even the the cofounder tried to pull that shit.

The saddest thing is that people will go
>real talent freedom corpo hasn't been tried yet!!!!
With the Vshojo thing. Nigga, it's been tried and failed, same with many who also said ''we'll give high specs pcs to the talent and they keep everything!!!'' guess what, they all left because they had no reason to stay.
Just imagine you open a burger joint, you give your employee your secret recipee for burgers and sauces + give him a free burger mini truck, what do you think is gonna happen? even if you quadruple his pay he's gonna fuck off because you no longer have a purpose if he wants to chill.
Not gonna say that Hololive is 100% right morally but the are in a bussiness standpoint, case in point: Vshojo going under.
>why not cut the middle man and just be indies? you bootlicker don't even-
Yeah I'm gonna stop you right there, discoverability is awful in either site and people join corpos not only for support but for a fucking spotlight, do I have to remind people you can dive into twitch and find over 5k 0-1 views easily? I remember a 1 view 4 year anniversary when i browsed.
Just like the song goes:
Blame it on the
corporate skycrappers in the clouds
but if it wasn't for you
we wouldn't have these multiple crowds.

holy shit I just rememberd that like one fucking week ago Rolling Stone put out that article talking about how great VShojo is and how HoloEN is the new upstart "encroaching on their territory". kek
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/rs-gaming/vtuber-agencies-virtual-idols-global-streaming-superstars-1235387390/

Vshojo's press was always so fucking annoying and aggressive towards Hololive, I also remember that time "duffy the vtuber journalist" or whatever that retard's name was interviewed silvervale and they shat on Hololive so hard and looked so jealous and schizo that they had to go back and edit the article like 4 times to tone it down.

>>102663443
>brits can't view this tweet

>>102663883
Maybe you would prefer a male companion?

brazilian schizo melty

>outed himself as brazilian with a screencap of the Hololive shop showing brazilian currency
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/101696513#p101704596
>misread another redditor's name as helmir because it also started with an h(said redditor made another post that was screencapped in a previous thread criticizing Saba in some fashion)
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/101763932#p101766369
He was mindbroken by helmir on twitter at some point.
It's also all likely this same guy by the way, you can see him posting screencaps of these threads too: https://x.com/visertorres/status/1939135222924161405
https://x.com/visertorres/status/1938984015681262055
https://x.com/visertorres/status/1939730761885561207
https://x.com/visertorres/status/1934718902283522247
https://x.com/visertorres/status/1808654531678351801
HE'S ALSO A VSHOJEET AND HOMOBEGGAR.

>>102663836
>newfag outing himself

>>102663814
And again tell me this isnt just grifting
If they were truly suffering under this problem before why didnt they remove her before?
I thought vshojo was poisoning the well behind the scenes after all

Just like that? Hololive wins forever?

>>102663802
To this day i wonder what NDA she broke to be unalived faster then rushia.

>>102663848
>Sudoka.

>trying to get their minute of spotlight, end up hitting the BF of melody
>now melody is going to fire her own nukes back at them
Lel

>>102663413
I was gonna start watching this lady but she's another one of those fake "I've never had on anyone im such a girlfailure teehee~ uwu" and she makes it too obvious that she's playing it up. The feet stuff was nice though.

>>102663919
Try developing taste.

>>102663753
one time cover reacted was starsEN and it ended poorly so the strategy now is to do nothing

>>102663898
>>real talent freedom corpo hasn't been tried yet!!!!
It doesn't matter. The fact it has been tried and it failed set a precendent, people can whine and bitch like the commies do but nobody is gonna try a vshojo style corpo ever again. Like capitalism won and became the only option, jp corpos like Cover and their practices are now the standard.

>>102663952
Yeah that is pretty much it

>Melody was in on everything
Wtf I thought honest whores were good

>>102663873
>WE ARE TELLING YOU VSHOJO WAS DOGSHIT SINCE THE START SAME WITH NIJI.
Again, entirely based on feel, the fact that they were taler proved correct, doesn't mean that previous to shit becoming public all the wrongful assumptions about Niji and VShojo were nothing more than speculations
And framing it as a "Niji" issue and not the NijiEN issue, when the Japanese branch has pretty much the same record as Hololive (Jp) is pretty stupid, because you could EASILY say that [Cover[ is also a shady and shitty agency because of what the EN homos do
Just like the guy that's constantly botting himself, just the like Nijis
Just like the blatant favoritism towards the EN homos, just like what the clique had in NijiEN
Just like the power trips from the homo management that do nothing but harm the girs, just like Elira did

>>102663927
>Loves holostars and vshojo
>Hates hololive
>Hates saba
Checks out

>>102663853
It's not about streams you retard, it's about office politics. A week ago Vshojo was regarded as a nice and chill company with like 2 minor controversies, now we know that it was the literal worst company.
You don't know what happens inside the black box.

Cecilia members stream

>>102664040
Sa... Salami earrings...

>>102663952
As if there were any other possible outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpDw1fwLMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpDw1fwLMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpDw1fwLMo
OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE AND WITHOUT EVEN TWEETING

>>102664040
>random twitch butthurt

>>102663961
The most likely answer was and still is that she leaked confidential information about third parties that Cover was conducting business with, not personal information about individual people. Corpos are so autistic that they don't even reveal how many units of a product they've sold so it could be basically ANYTHING.

>>102663898
The thing about these people is that they are welcome to try and add to the list of failed corpos that is going to be used in that argument in the future

So why did Gigi decide to make a custom thumbnail instead of using the game's official?
https://youtu.be/rvtgHvtmf_Q

>>102663665
That doesn't explain where the 500k went. Why was Gunrun unaware of the charity? Did Ironmouse deposit the money without telling anyone? If she told someone, then who, and why didn't they pay that money to the charity right away? Who all has access to the bank account?

>>102664119
>t. tourist newfag

>>102663915
> also remember that time "duffy the vtuber journalist" or whatever that retard's name was interviewed silvervale and they shat on Hololive so hard and looked so jealous and schizo that they had to go back and edit the article like 4 times to tone it down.
To be fair that was solely due to do duffy being a psycho-level nijinigger and holo anti. The reason they edited it because Silver literally came out and basically went "I never fucking said that and I have nothing against hololive".

WELLLLLL ADVENTOMOS?!?!?!?!??!
>WHY DO WE HATE THE CHINESE AGAIN?!

completely out of the blue and without any notifications numbers
Just the top of the otoniggas

>>102663961
she leaked something to someone she trusted who ratted her out or something like that
spooked a lot of holos too

>>102664051
>Niji and VShojo were nothing more than speculations
Something something let it be known something something male collabs something something rotten from the core something something
The truth is there if you care to see it

>>102664051
>on feel
on feel my fucking ass, we called that stupid fucking charity a scam since day 1 because as Holo fans we knew something was fishy the second they announced how they were gonna handle it.

Why is hololive so sacred?

Talking about merch cuts and all that, surely it isn't just hololive who operates on a system that adjusts how much the talents get depending on how much they invest?

>>102664113
wtf, thank you.

>>102662060
Honestly, I don't even think it'd be jealousy that really cripples someone's fan strength, its lack of a sense of belonging, and you tend to get that with a spouse coming in or mixed collabs. See, the secret sauce of success on top of being attracted to the streamer is the community or making people feel like a functioning one, and that tends to wane if people are hanging with their crews mostly or their SOs/household, and the community and its activities are second fiddle. Its why indies instead of asking do the fans hate them for getting an SO, should ask themselves if the community and content became less fun. Because at the end of the day, lack of popularity there seems universal amongst the sexes.

>>102663986
Yeah no 30 year old woman with long blonde hair and that body is single lmao

uh oh
https://x.com/dooby3D/status/1948489494258176498
https://x.com/dooby3D/status/1948489494258176498
https://x.com/dooby3D/status/1948489494258176498

>>102664189
they better be, i'd be raping my oshi if i knew where she lived

>>102663952
Just like that
>>102664051
>all the wrongful assumptions about Niji and VShojo were nothing more than speculations
lol nope, facts are a lot of "talents" in both were or are shitty people, through their words and actions
Pretending that NijiJP as the same track record as HoloJP is fucking wild concidering the amount of shit there is on NijiJP
Absolut coping nijinigger

>>102664187
you're not better than other vtuber fans

>>102663302
Please take out Suiwhore next time. We need her out of Hololive.

>>102664176
forgot pic lmao

>>102661859
30YT/35Cover/35Talent

Just note that streaming is not their biggest money maker anymore. It's merch and collaborations with different companies. In merch the talent receives a huge ass cut from it. Collaborations, not sure.

>>102664189
It's in the foundational story. Hololive was founded by a cute girl trying to become an idol. VShojo was founded by a camwhore trying to get a legitimate business front to launder her chaturbate revenue

>>102664051
Hasn't Niji JP been embroiled in scandals since pretty much day one?

>>102664254
>In merch the talent receives a huge ass cut from it.
source?

>>102664249
I am, you cuck

>>102664189
>Why are subs better then dubs

Lmao the drama that will come out of everyone turning on Mel and then Mel airing out everyone else's dirty laundry is going to make the Sinder shit look like child's play
We're watching the biggest crab bucket unfolding in real time

>>102664051
>Niji speculation
My fucking god, bro what the hell are you talking about? Niji is the definition of death by thousand cuts, their EN branch in 2 years before the Selen fiasco yabbed more than EN to this day. We also knew their JP branch was ass (Lulu, Luna, Baseball Terminations) and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

>>102664305
>source?
Every fucking hologirls that's been encouraging their fans to focus on big personal merch run like anniversary and birthday for the last 8 fucking years you fucking ape

>>102664051
>And framing it as a "Niji" issue and not the NijiEN issue
we literally know for a fact that niji is a black company. we've known for years. long before nijiEN
>because of what the EN homos do
low tier niji talents get almost nothing compared to what cover gives to homos
>because you could EASILY say
you could easily say dumb shit and be wrong

>>102664249
I fucking am.
And not only that, Holotalents and ex are better than other vtubers, Ame managed to understand how to set up a good charity 5 years before Ironlung.

you niggas told me Melody was a good whore

>>102664305
nta, JPs and if I'm not mistaken FWMC also alluded to it, most especially birthday merchs

>>102664305
i'm not sure there was ever a source so i wouldn't be parroting with as much confidence as that anon, but the holos consistently encourage people to buy merch unlike nijis who usually said it was best to donate through streamlabs, so it's very likely.

>>102664189
On the altar of purity snd sacrifice for the ones you love, sanctified by the holy fish that was divided amongst and for the people by jesus himself, how could it not be sacred.
AFTER 3 WEEKS SHE WAS RISEN AGAIN AND WITH HER RESSURECTION THE GATES OF HEAVEN OPENED AND ALL WAS REVEALED
HALLELUJAH BLESSED BE THE LORD AND THE FISH THAT WE TAKE AS OUR FOOD IN TOMORROWS STREAM
And just how like Jesus Christ the Lord left the church to guide us so did She with hololive itself

>>102664376
that's not a source

>>102664435
Every EN girls did too anon

>>102664305
Talents themselves. They keep on saying that merch is the one that they get massive revenue on. That's why they shill it so much. If I remember correctly the ID girls did say this. Moona in particular. From HoloEN the last one I heard this from was I think Kiara or Bae. From HoloJP obviously it's Suisei is the biggest shill. Almost all the talents talk about it you moron. This just shows you don't watch any of them.

>>102664305
Lamy talked about her sake merch years ago, that's a pretty good way to understand how merch cut works in Holo.

>>102664311
Don't forget Mel was the one who vouched for Nux.

>>102664435
>>102664436
>>102664376
>>102664469
that's not a source, and that doesn't mean they get a bigger cut, it's just a dick measuring contest for them

>>102664433
No such thing as a good whore. Look at Nimi.

>>102664189
They have those holy boobers, nobody expected those badonkers to be actually blessed

>>102664418
most "literally me" to ever "literally me"

>>102664505
Oh my god an actual idiot.

>>102664305
NTA, but it depends, because some Holos design their own merch and this gives them practically the entirety of the profit, other Holos ask someone to design it for them, so it's a different percentage, etc.

Artist Holos like Ina probably get near 100% cut, save for production costs.

>>102664505
>it's just a dick measuring contest for them
Niggerfaggot that's their livelihood ofc they're going to promote what make them the most money
are you fucking retarded

>>102664305
>all these replies
>no source
Meanwhile, one of the homos said voice packs > streamlabs > merch > donos

>>102664087
ah-ah he never watched a stream in his life....
If you don't care about hololive why are you arguing? you literally know nothing
>You don't know what happens inside the black box.
Cover is publicly traded company.
You can read about what happens inside via their quarterly reports and investor Q&As plus myriad of articles about inner workings they shit out
And listen to talents who talked about a lot of how things work.
So yeah how about you shut the fuck up and stop fucking crying? Go look up at least something before opening your whore mouth

>>102664189
Dies iræ, dies illa
Solvet sæclum in favilla
Teste David cum Sibylla
Quantus tremor est futurus
Quando iudex est venturus
Cuncta stricte discussurus
Dies iræ, dies illa
Solvet sæclum in favilla
Teste David cum Sibylla
Quantus tremor est futurus
Quando iudex est venturus
Cuncta stricte discussurus
Quantus tremor est futurus
Dies iræ, dies illa
Quantus tremor est futurus
Dies iræ, dies illa
Quantus tremor est futurus
Quantus tremor est futurus
Quando iudex est venturus
Cuncta stricte discussurus
Cuncta stricte (cuncta stricte)
Stricte discussurus
Cuncta stricte (cuncta stricte)
Stricte discussurus

>>102664433
>be lazy whore.
>get asshole boyfriend, make him run your career (into the ground).
>still trying to figure out if it's time to cry on camera until someone fixes everything for you.

>>102664157
they should blame chatGPT
chatGPT was handling the finances

>>102664572
>everybody quotes the girls
>no source
>quotes homos
>no source
retard

>>102664572
LAMY SAKE MERCH
SHE GOT 70% CUT ON THAT RUN
PLENTY OF CLIPS ON YT

>>102664168
we don't hate people from the country of Taiwan anon

>>102664139
The game gives you the option to date everyone, but only 2 people could even be considered to meet the average criteria.

>>102663814
>single partner
>whore
lol retard

>>102664572
Hologirls don't use streamlabs, at least no EN and JP
VP are goods
But the homoniggers have no fans so ofc merch doesn't mean shit for them
Also why would you trust the words of some homoniggers but not the girls? I don't the a "source" either here

>>102664586
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
STOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAP

>>102664189
>>102664586
Sora and A-chan are unironically the reason as to why Hololive is so much different than other corpos, they brought soul and organization to Hololive, something YAGOO himself didn't had.

>>102664578
Holy shit you holofags are retarded as hell, this must be bait, there's no way a person would actually think that being publicly traded means that you can't be corrupt in the inside.
Search up Big Motor you nigger.

>>102664572
Homofans must be some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet, and i am including what we have seen this week

>>102664629
honestly, blaming ai would probably work on xittards.

>>102664693
uh oh ligcuck melty foaming at the mouth

>>102664631
So our sources have the same validity.