Thread 102671873

So that's it, he just gets to win?

What did he win?

didn't realy follow execpt he didn't donate 500k. quick tl;dr pls

>>102671989
He built a fort with peoples merch instead of shipping it
a corp exploded. hes to strong.

Paid nijishill thread

There's no winners in this game. Phase and hololive and nijisanji will get hit too. At least Cover has their tech company to fall back on when shit gets muddy and they can't justify as many talents in a post-covid era.
Everyone's gonna feel the squeeze. It's just how they're gonna handle it, and the only one looking like it potentially could is hololive - and even then, not without coughing up some blood in the process.

>westoid subsidiaries crash and burn
>Chinaman company still growing larger

Is this the power of the zhongguorénmin?

>>102672247
>Phase and hololive and nijisanji will get hit to
What a interesting way to phrase that, it's almost like you were paid to make it seem like other companies are bad as well...

>>102671873 (OP)
He did nothing.

>>102672247
>At least Cover has their tech company to fall back on when shit gets muddy and they can't justify as many talents in a post-covid era.
I don't think Sakana has to worry, we already know he spends the bare minimum and Phase was never his main moneymaker.

>>102672635
If Phase has other methods, then they'll likely do as well as Hololive will.
>>102672357
I was naming the popular names. This is an industry wide squeeze, don't think your 2view indie's not affected. Don't think the ex-shojos won't be affected.

>>102671873 (OP)
Just play the games, and pay on time, it's not too hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--n1kwXm76c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--n1kwXm76c

Turns out the "not a scam" scam company was telling the truth.

>>102672781
Ironic you post Muyu to make this point when she's a prime example of Sakana having no fucking clue what he's doing

>>102671873 (OP)
Vshojo going down in flames doesn’t change that boyfriend connect is dogshit

>>102671873 (OP)
Phase has battle-hardened vtubers that started streaming before HoloMyth, and know what being a 2-view for years is.
Their spirit is strong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzJhNfokLeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzJhNfokLeM

>>102673017
Hiring Purin and Kana was a terrible decision.

>>102672247
But Phase Connect is cash-flow positive? That was Sakana's main objective when starting the company. Slower, more stable growth tends to withstand these sorts of shifts in the market.

>>102671873 (OP)
>Does a shit job organizing cons and shipping merch
>Still wins because the competition is retarded
Huh, I guess it was that easy after-all

>>102671873 (OP)
bro just finished the tutorial and thinks he has beat the game
but yeah, idol companies aside phase is the big dog now, mostly because they gave up on the idol thing and are in a different category now. still small compared to holo, obviously

>>102671873 (OP)
>It just recently got revealed that corpos are 100% paying people for propaganda on /vt/
>Another Phase shill thread appears right afterwards
I'm noticing.

>>102672752
I never heard of a whole industry getting affected because the CEO of one (1) company embezzled some charity funds.

>>102673168
It's easy to stay in the green when the only people shipping merch are yourself, and two chinese women you hired to do everything else in the company.

>>102673255
No one watches Hololive in 2025.

>>102673359
It's probably going to cause ripples among corpotubers for a time but it would depend on what their current situation is, odds are will be bigger issues for smaller corpo, hololive and niji will probably be fine since even Riku pays his employees when they get out of debt to him.

>>102672752
This legit sounds like a well worded thing trying to shift the blame onto other companies. How much di you get paid bro?

Phase has a monopoly on the niche le menhera femcel genre

Isn't Phase a mental asylum for women that's located in a warehouse? That's like some chinese level operations shit.

>>102673395
You forgot to attach your own personal picture.

>>102671873 (OP)
Sakana is a rich autistic fuck who wants to see cool shit happen. He doesn't win but he also doesn't lose because he doesn't bother competing.

>>102671873 (OP)
You're next, unless Yagoo rolls a critical failure first.

>>102673395
Not now phase shill, I understand you need money to pay for your family in the favelas but it's better to lay low for a while.

>>102671873 (OP)
Give it time

>>102671989
>Mouse is scammed out of 500k for a charity during her legendary donothon
>Gunrun claims to not have known it existed despite it being very big news and him retweeting it, confirming he knew about it and the moneys intentions
>Sayu revealed she was supposed to join Vshoujo but the company decided to ghost her
>it was her idea to poach Nijis WHILE SHE WAS STILL IN THE COMPANY, to create a ex-Niji gen and then start bad press about the company to convince others to leave for Vshoujo, whether through peer pressure or otherwise
>Kyo was similar, he was promised a seat at Vshoujo for leaving and he convinced one other person to go with him, but he was promptly ghosted and abandoned. He regrets leaving Niji
>Mint was a Vshoujo talent all along and was supposed to lead a 4-group female idol gen, possibly the talent Kyo convinced to leave
>There was a monster girl gen of 2-3view indies who passed the auditions in the works, they had every intention on debuting soon but have now cut ties with Vshoujo entirely
>The JP staff member was a creep and doxxing anyone they kept in contact with, keeping a personal scrapbook of doxxing photos, including Shibuya Kaho who they tried to coerce
>JP talents were not paid in a year, Kson believed up until now they’d eventually get paid and that the company just needed more time to be more profitable
>turns out they were always profitable and could’ve been paid the whole time, Kson quits live on stream to the face of the head of Vshoujo JP
>Other talents and commissioned artists and shit saying they never got paid, or grossly overpaid, no in between
>Turns out the COO was Melodies boyfriend, caused a lot of shit between her OG artist and was bad mouthing other talents at parties
>Vale and Vei were shit talked publicly and internally, including using 4chan as a promotional battle ground to slander their names
>Nyanners left because she wasn’t getting paid, she was a victim of staff trying to use her in the anti-Vei/Silver crusade
>Gunrun was on 4chan shittalking Hololive and Niji, gassing up how amazing Vshoujo was, and aimed to poach more Holo talents, and likely Niji once they got in with Sayu later

>>102673352
Surely not!

>>102673491
Good point. Applicants for newer/smaller corpos might be getting cold feet.

>>102673893
>Mint was a Vshoujo talent all along
Ocelot?

>>102673255
>they gave up on the idol thing
You really don't watch them don't you?

>>102671873 (OP)
He has said a few times that he makes more money from selling coffee than the vtuber side of things.

So yea, he knew what he was doing.

>>102674016
Anon, it's been known for a while now that he was here when phase just started out at least.

>>102673168
>>102673389
Shipping the merch you paid for would mean dismantling the box fort. Not going to happen.

>>102671873 (OP)
What did he win? A free coffee?

>>102673061
your beloved holos are all married, retard

>>102673255
>>102674160
Phase does the bare minimum of what could be considered idol content to prevent Lia from leaving and/or killing herself

Phase Connect moved up in the corpo vtuber rankings. They're now considered the 3rd best.

>be Kevin
>wake up one day
>vshojo decides to completely implode
>OH GOD OH FUCK
>Phase Connect is now the largest western vtuber corpo

>>102674346
Merch will continue not being shipped until Dizzy agrees to build her own fort so they can have a nerfgun fight.

>>102673168
the reason a lot of corpos fail is because the founders are too retarded to keep it in their pants.

you will literally see them fucking their talents. kek

There are now multiple indies with a bigger market share by themselves than Phase as a whole. Nothing against Phase, but their growth has stagnated. I can't speak to their contracts or finances, but I can only assume they are doing fine in their own corner regardless.

>>102674977
Yeah but are they epic and le based?

>it's now proven that vshojo was hiring people to stir shit on 4chan
>tfw half those anti-phase threads and other obvious troll threads made to shit on other corpos while praising phase was just some retarded seamonkey paid by gunrun or vshojo

>>102674778
>>Phase Connect is now the largest western vtuber corpo
kek, that didn't sink in until you said it. It sounds so fucking wrong

>>102674758
3rd place is better than not existing :)

>>102675151
I think this corpo is bigger than them.

>>102674778
This is it western vtuber company culture? Your last bastion is a fort made of undelivered merch and a coffee fried fish?

>>102674778
Isn't Sakana a mainlander Chinese?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rAYdfukSouI

>>102672914
He just followed the golden rule to avoid all misfortune. It was smooth sailing from there.

>>102675419
Do NOT make fun of the fort. This will be our bunker that will protect us from the inevitable yabs that will come.

>>102671873 (OP)
always has

This CEO worship surely won't backfire one day

>>102674778
Phase Connect is not the largest western vtuber corpo. Mythic Talent is still bigger.

>>102675419
Yes, but at least it's comfy sometimes and the girls realize they got a pretty good deal all things considered.
>>102675473
Yeah, but he lives in Vancouver and Phase Connect is ran from Canada, making it a Western company.
>>102675548
The Fort of Safety shant be breached. I am also certain that Phase will NEVER have a yab as big as the shit that vshojo pulled, or the heinous shit some other small corpos have done.

>>102671873 (OP)
Still greatly dwarfed by whoreclan

>>102674160
what can I say, I tried a few and none seemed idolish to me, at least not in their modern versions. tenma for example used to be more idol coded but then became whatever she is now, practically all the old talents have a similar trajectory. and what is there to say about the new hires like hime or clio

excellent content, I love them, but it isn't an idol company

>>102675677
Mythic Talent is a talent corpo, and not a vtuber only corpo, so I wouldn't include them.
They also don't do much other than merch and other helpful stuff.
>>102675685
I have no quarrels with the whore clan.
Numi is cute, and I hope she and Michi have sex together sometime.

>>102675803
>They also don't do much other than merch and other helpful stuff.

They did put together the vtuber awards. That's huge.

>>102674778
there was a timeline shift that tuesday
this is some steins gate bullshit

>>102675900
Oh right, but that was also probably most because of Filian.
But still, they aren't a vtuber only corpo.
>>102676018
Yeah, the amount of shit that has happened since then
>Ozzy dies
>vshojo implodes
>Nimi announces her marriage
>Hulk Hogan dies
>turns out vshojo is WAY worse than we all thought
what the fuck can possibly happen next?

>>102675900
>They did put together the vtuber awards. That's huge.
No that was filian, and she paid for it.

>>102675285
It barely means shit in the west with massively more popular indies and a third place faaaaaar off the big guys

>>102671873 (OP)
he is on that primal hunger shit

>>102676168
It's in one of the most comfy places.
It's big enough to be profitable.
It's got a decent selection of talents for most stuff people can like.
I honestly like the spot phase is in now.
0.6%-1% of total viewership is the peak comfort zone.

>>102675671
Phasefags are a whole different breed of bootlicker. Sakana has said and done a lot of shitty things in full view of the public that would've led to any other CEO becoming utterly despised by their company's fans, but instead they just keep gobbling his cock because apparently insulting, exploiting, obstructing, and generally being a piece of shit towards your talents is okay when he does it. If he'd done what Gunrun did then half of the Phase fanbase would be calling him based and trying to deflect all of the blame onto the girls.

>>102676532
Such as?

>>102671873 (OP)
phase connect corpo in this thread rn, we see you phase jannies

>>102676130
>what the fuck an possibly happen next?
Visa threatened that on website that people post porn games to ichio or whatever to delete porn of they drop them and they had to deleted a bunch of games off it. Could get some funny Visa vs porn related stuff happening.

>Mr Sakana I'm afraid your company is the worst in the entire industry. You have every yab. You also have several that have just been discovered.
>I see... you sure these aren't just thousands of nothingburgers?
>Uh... No, no I'm afraid not.
>This sounds like bad news...
>Well you'd think so! but all of your yabs are in perfect balance. If you have a moment I can explain.
>Here's the door to your company, you see? And these are oversized novelty scandals. That's boyfriend yab, that's alleged IP theft, and this cute little cuddlebug is a condom tweet, heh.
>Here's what happens when they all try to get through to the public at once:
>"Move it chowderhead!"
>We call it three stooges syndrome.

tl;dr the company is so transparently full of scandals that they no longer register. The fans see it as normal, and the greater community has long stopped having any expectations. The company's own shittiness is its shield, because it's awful but 'ironically'

>>102676532
and the girls shit talk him right back
pretty much anytime he's done stupid shit, he's been shit on by people on /pcg/ at least
if he did what gunrun did, he'd be just as fucked
but unfortunately for you, and everyone else who hates phase, Kevin doesn't seem to be a big enough piece of shit to steal $500k from charity

>>102677762
Wow. Gunrun is still funding you guys, eh? Sounds like a sweet deal.

>>102677638
Kevin hates Jungle Monkeys? Based. I will now watch your corpo

>>102677762
majority of phase ''yabs'' are literal nothingburgers compared to the shit other corpos and ceos get up too
fishfaggot hasn't doxxed his own talents or stolen charity money

>>102671873 (OP)
I hate this asshole. He doesn't deserve to have unprotected sex with my Uruka.

>>102677930
the key to success is bullying your talents, and letting them bully you back
>>102678056
That hasn't happened though?

>>102678056
Shut up, Uruka, Actually tell him no next time

>>102678056
I agree, how dare she not put on a condom.

>>102677762
Thanks mister number monkey

>>102678187
kevin's bussy...

>>102677638
bloons?

KEVIN IS A FAT FUCK

>>102678090
The bastard pumped and dumped her. I will hate Kevin forever. It's because of him also that Uruka went on hiatus, probably to shit out Kevin's stupid Canadian chink baby.

Fuck Kevin. He sure did it to Uruka.

>>102673893
>Vshoujo
Brits are banned from 4chan

>>102673119
Fuck you. Calfie is doing fine.

>>102673893
>>JP talents were not paid in a year, Kson believed up until now they’d eventually get paid and that the company just needed more time to be more profitable
Kson is beyond stupid and gullible. A company late on any payments for longer than 3 months consecutively needs to be taken to court.

>>102678603
>3 packs of instant noodles
>7 eggs
wtf Sakana

>>102679069
he was on that primal hunger shit bro

>>102676532
Fishman pays his employees. Gunrun misappropriated the funds and fucked off. No comparison.

>>102679140
dont forget gunrun also stole $500k in charity money lmao

>>102679200
Could've been the COO, too. We won't know until a proper investigation.

>>102679200
that's also misappropriation of funds. It's legally precise but it's still a crime.

>>102679285
>>102679371
either way, nothing that retarded fishfag has done, or phase has done, is anywhere near as bad as the vshojo shitshow

>>102673893
How did Melody get out of this situation unscathed?

>>102673612
Surely a face you can trust, and not found in ugly bastard doujins.

>Literally just don't steal from and/or abuse your talents
>Don't piss away money on hordes of useless staff or retarded promotions that don't have any ROI
>people will have a generally positive opinion of you and your company
The bar is essentially on the ground, and almost nobody else has been able to clear it.

>>102677762
it's crazy people try to deny this and 3 posts later use it as a flex because they "don't want idol culture in the west"

>>102679501
LINE MUST GO UP

>>102679468
"Melody's boyfriend" is coming from a third party, and may be out of date.

>>102679501
it really is crazy how low a bar can be, but like 90% of small corpos somehow cant clear it

>>102677638
tree monkey hut you?

>>102675671
This always comes true. Any brown noser in a company is going to say whatever makes their boss happy, and not what is good advice.

>>102679457
>nothing that retarded fishfag has done, or phase has done, is anywhere near as bad as the vshojo shitshow
That we know of

>>102679501
>abuse your talents
nobody tell him about the first 6 months of Phase Connect, and why Uruka and Lia are so well protected and get unlimited perks

NijiEN's shambling corpse is more relevant than Phase lmao

>>102679634
It doesn't involve fucking over his own company, at least.

>>102679596
he was calling jelly a sea monkey lol
>>102679634
True, but I really, honestly believe that phase will never have as big of a scandal or fuckup as vshojo
and if I end up being wrong, then may someone grudgepost me for all time
>>102679698
nijien isn't relevant at all, it's being propped up by nijiJP

>>102671873 (OP)
After the MTD story, this is just seem like someone from Phase is trying to shill thể company

>>102677762
None of these are crimes, or labor law violations however.

>>102678603
Your farts must be as deadly as mustard gas Sakana.

>>102679501
Do you know how hard it it to limbo when the bar is so close to the ground?

>>102679760
No, really
NijiEN STILL has better average and total ccv compared to Phase
Idk if that's still the case with the very recent clio botting though

>>102679807
>IP theft

>>102679935
She sold it. As you've been told every time, you stupid nigger.

>>102679912
>bringing up botting
>when talking about nijiEN ccv

>>102671959
my hart

>>102679935
>IP theft
Given the recent Nintendo/Palworld scuffle, I don't fucking give this any weight or concern, unless a court outcome has judged against them.

>>102679984
got me there
still it's pretty obvious from what i see
some of the nijiens are back to natural 4view while 95% of phase are still 3view

>>102674190
Anyone with a brain knows food is the best business since customers will consume food and thus need to continue buying your products. Entertainment on the other hand has only one reliable practical use, and that is to advertise other products, so using vtubers to advertise food is simply good business.

>>102680048
the fact that we are in a timeline where there is a serious discussion about Phase vs. NIJIEN vs. vshojo says something. Phase Connect were a 2view small corpo with little to no expierence and when they debuted NIJIEN and vshojo were 2 of the 3 giants who had their pick of the litter of established talents.

>>102679935
>sold her ip to fishman for a new car

>>102671873 (OP)
Final Yab when? 2 weeks?

>>102679935
Which one is this

>>102680192
I remember those threads from when phase was first starting out.
so many people thought phase would be one of the first of the small corpos from back then to die

>>102677762
The difference is the scandals are from the talents themselves.

>>102679719
Again, that we know of. Look at what just happened to Vshojo, even the company's biggest haters couldn't have anticipated their near-instantaneous collapse based on how thing were going for them even jut earlier the same day it all went to hit, and all of the information we're now getting about how they managed to maintain a good reputation right up until this happened is proof that you cannot trust a damn thing about how well these corpos seem to be doing or what any of their talents say about how nice their CEO is, because chances are they're all either lying about it or just don't know how bad things are themselves.

>>102676168
It means when phase looks for sponsorships they now get to say they are the largest western owned vtuber corp and the third largest English speaking vtuber corp in the world

>>102680915
we will know when there is trouble in phase because they would start complaining about not being paid. most of these girls don't have $10k in the bank to throw around and be ok with pay peridos being skipped, they live a little bit better than paycheck to paycheck so if they aren't getting paid they are likely gonna speak about it to put pressure on

phase girls are also not shut up and fall in line talents, when they have an issue they speak. granted the more girls they have now, the less they will be heard so they don't have leverage if they are truly unhappy

>>102676532
The biggest complaint any of the talents have had is he is to cheap to ship them there merch and wants them to pick it up when he flies them to Canada, and he rambles on about bullshit in meetings.

Phase had big trouble in their first 6 months. They navigated the waters tho and had a strong gen1 who threatened a mutiny unless they got change, and they had a ceo who listened and gave them change. Say if Kawaii's Gen3 would have been hired as Phase's Gen1, Phase would be dead because those girls would have gone to the CEO demanding change, gotten the change, and then still said fuck you bye.

>>102678090
as much as they want to sugarcoat it and pass it as a joke, this isn't normal professional behavior. I don't care about making predictions but I don't think they respect their talents and that should eventually lead to problems

imagine if your boss talked to you like that

>>102681856
>not normal professional behavior
look at what the 'professional' behavior does to nijiEN and vshojo
he shit talks them and they shit on him back

If you seriously trust that phase, niji, and holo arent doing this shit too youre delusional. Even if its 10% as bad as vshojo you still dont want your oshi near these people. Stay Indie.

>>102681856
I think this is why Mint went with Vshojo instead of Phase. When she spent a month with Phase, she said she was taken aback by how Sakana, Pippa, Lia, Uruka interacted with eachother. She was not used to employees telling their CEO to kill himself, and the CEO to tell them to deep throat a shot gun, and then they laugh and go to dinner or tokyo disney.

>>102681909
save the bullshit gaslight and grooming for the girls brother, I can see through it

>>102681923
>stay indie
>meanwhile, the indies
>Sinder shit
>Nimi marriage announcement
>>102682034
>grooming
weird thing to randomly bring up out of nowhere

>>102681856
>imagine if your boss talked to you like that
He does. It's great. Shitposting is the lifeblood of all functional businesses. Nothing worse than walking on eggshells to accommodate the weak-minded and women.

>>102681923
>$0.00 have been deposited in your account

>>102681996
Her autism couldn't handle the bants? It's sad :(

>>102681779
Faggot, two of their members are still in literally 2 digits subcount, getting 3views in the low hundreds if they are even lucky, and completely literal whose just because they don't want to speak English. Tenma would have also went that route had they not decided it was better to speak like a retarded ESL chink but both Iori and Michiru is still completely forgotten. Phase was retarded in trying to chase both rabbits at the same timem EN and JP, and only now scrambles after the Western Side but completely discarding the ones who can't speak English or won't (Iori)

sakana knows what he is doing. look at lia
>tears her down to nothing
>points out her flaws and embarrasses her in front of her coworkers
>builds her back up slowly
>waits for the biggest moments in the company, and tells her she is gonna be a major part of it
>she crushes it
>he pulls her aside and says he's proud of her
>it's all she needs and now she is ready to work hard for his concerts all because she finally got that validation
they do this in sports all the time. it builds character.

>>102671873 (OP)
Phase grows stronger with each passing day.

>>102682190
Different strokes for different folks.

>>102682427
NTA but the ones who can't handle the bantz are failures, different strokes implies equivalency.

>>102682383
>>tears her down to nothing
>>points out her flaws and embarrasses her in front of her coworkers
unfortunately with most people these days, it typically stops here and the entire ride gets shut down because it is now abuse or something

>>102682090
>weird thing to randomly bring up out of nowhere
grooming begins by blurring boundaries, which is what you see on that pic, that's not how employer and employees talk to each other. this is also preceded by love bombing when the talents join

you bring up nijien and vshojo in your other post to deflect and as if (1) they didn't use similar tactics and (2) professional, normal interactions wasn't how literally everyone except black companies do business. again, trying to normalize what is simply workplace harassment

I'm still glad you bring up this stuff by pretending it is a good thing because everyone else can see that phase is a black company. I'm not saying they are going to fail or anything, but they are definitely abusing the people working for them

>>102682383
Did he...did he have sex with her too? I thought Fishman was only fucking Uruka at that time. It was weird the amount of attention she was giving her and the fact they even met up and went on a date.

>>102682383
Some would call it abuse and pitting talents against each other.

>>102683029
This is funny LOL

>>102673893
>and likely Niji once they got in with Sayu later
I kneel, Finana. You didn't exaggerate about her gaslighting you.

>>102683029
>Lia with the based response
Maybe I should start watching her.

>>102683029
>how to handles menhera women

>>102683029
uh based?

>>102682588
I don't know about you man, but as someone who had worked with multiple small businesses before, I find that the businesses that try to conduct themselves "professionally" tends to be the one who have more problems due to the top being disconnected. The difference between grooming and just a more casual work environment to me is whether or not after all the banter, the parties listen to each other and phase from what we know of do listen to the talents. Hell, I can even apply this to a lesser degree to the relationship between Holos to Yagoo.

>>102683029
ok but, it was a test. and like i wrote he tore her down to build her up and then the time came where he put lia out there to represent his group on the biggest stage, and she did it, and he told her what it meant. he knows what he is doing and what buttons to push to get the most out of people who didn't think they maybe had it in them

>>102683256
if you talked like that to a man you would get beaten up, don't try to pull the "but deep down we listen to each other" as if you were 12. and I don't know who are you trying to convince, any lurker can read that pic and immediately recognize that's not how a normal job sounds

>>102682588
Keep in mind that the banter we usually see is from the fish + Gen 1, Invaders & maybe Clara because the gap in power dynamics is not that big. We don't see this behaviour with Gen 2, Gen 3 and Keleido much. So your point might be true to the other people there but for now, it only seems that he is just an autistic chinese and if you had any contact with them, this behavior is quite mild.

>>102671873 (OP)
As long as he keeps being careful with hiring it will all work out. No more hires like Saya anyway.

>>102683029
>>102683360
Wholesome

>>102671873 (OP)
Phase CEO will get outed as being a massive successful sexpest. All phase girls are part of his harem and his primary fetish is NTR. He requires talents to be married/ have a bf in order to join.

>>102683610
Airi, Hime and Shiina roast the shit out of Fishman. I think Euphoria is the only full gen that still treats him with something resembling professional distance.

Eh. Even among the graduations on the en side most phase talents aren't even comparable to the "runts" or w/e # calls them. Not only that they do not a dent on the jp market or Europe.

>>102683582
I don't think any Vtuber company is "normal", especially with all these menheras.

>>102683360
>it was a test
I think he is just an asshole

>>102671873 (OP)
I used to think that 'Obfuscating Stupidity' TV Trope was a fanwank invention to praise useless characters they liked anyways or come up with lolsorandumb fanfic concepts like DArth Binks...
But no. That literally is Fishman.

>>102671873 (OP)
How much were you paid to post this?

>>102683612
>careful with hiring
why? what's the worst that could possibly happen? -it already happened- and the audience has been culled to the point the only people left are the ones that don't care or don't even know what idol culture is. phase sticks to the meta:
1. pretend nothing happened
2. never address it
3. never apologize
4. double down

>>102683582
Sorry you had to work with insecure pricks anon. I would not call any workplace that you have to walk around eggshells a good place to work at. Not saying that "deep down they listen to each other", just that when push comes to shove, their concerns are heard and actions are taken, and the language used to deliver that concern should not matter. If I can tel someone to kill themselves because they are making my job hard to do, and not just they not penalize me much, but also make changes to make it easier to work, I would be loyal also.

>>102682755
kevin hasn't fucked any of the talents

>>102683943
true, but he's not a MASSIVE one

>Why don't the people in Phase act like the people in the other big corpos where they stop streaming because of management problems (Holo) and form cliques and sabotage each other (Niji and Vshojo)?
This is all I'm getting from this thread.

>>102684037
Nah, if you get someone that doesn't understand the company dynamic and culture in there and they took the banter seriously, it would cause a shitstorm.
The banter he has with his talent is the same kind of shit that has brought down others.

Although I would argue that Sakana is not really gonna get close to many newer talents beyond a surface level. As the generations debut, they get furhter away from him. He is very comfortable with his Gen1, some of Gen2, some invaders and then it trickles out.

>>102684050
what are you talking about. you are an adult, if you have a problem you state that problem in a respectful and professional manner and the other adults listen and either act on that or give you an equally respectful and professional answer. what is this shounen anime nonsense. I have to assume you have never worked a day in your life if you think a job is supposed to sound like a middle school

>>102684052
My man, Kevin literally went on a one on one date with Uruka.

>>102684215
>big corpos hire already established people
>coffee stand was peddling on reddit and 4chan to hire talents
yeah, this is mowtendoo's deflection thread

>>102684391
she is uggo
aim higher

>>102684391
he's also literally an autist who's got a wife(rrats say it's either Dizzy, or one of her cousins)

>>102671873 (OP)
Just as Hololive lived rent-free in Gunrun's head, Phase lives rent-free in /vt/'s catalog's head. The difference is that Phase's antis don't get paid.
...wait, there's no difference.

>>102683029
he is so lucky lia and jelly are not girls like selen or mozu

>>102684484
Holy shit, Fishman is an aryan crusader that can shoot ice out of his hands and fucks lizard people?

>>102671873 (OP)
its so fucking bizarre to me that Phase connect is now the second best Vtuber corpo

>>102684228
the dynamic is pretty easy to understand, I imagine the hard part is tolerating it. but it wouldn't matter, whatever happens they can ignore it as long as it doesn't involve lots of money and lawyers. there is no public image to maintain, no brand. if you ask anyone what's the difference between a phase and an indie the only thing they will say is that the indie is more dignified

the brand is that there is no brand
and I mean it in a bad sense

>>102684637
It's not that bizarre when Phase has always done its own thing instead of trying to please everyone when the people complaining about Phase will never like it anyways. It's like how Holo still does idol stuff and never cared about big western content creators shitting on idol culture. It's similar to how Holo got big by doing its own thing and not trying to be Niji early on.
There was a time when people said niji had more freedom than holo.

>>102682383
Ok now i want a movie like Wiplash but with an idol

>>102684323
If that is your viewpoint, I will cease the argument since we have greatly differing viewpoints. Correct me if I'm wrong but is your point [a good workplace is a place where all the parties involved curate their behavior to fit a precieved professional norm]? Since what I'm arguing for is [a good workplace is a workplace where the concerns of all parties are heard and taken to consideration, regardless of the method of delivering the concern].

>>102684995
lia is sakana's charlie parker

>>102671873 (OP)
yes, that's how it works

>>102685135
>oh well I see you want empty ceremonies and I want effective communication even if it is a bit quirky
I'm too white for this shit. there is no such dichotomy, you are an adult interacting with other adults, politeness and respect are not just the only appropriate option but also the most effective. if your boss treats you like you are 12 or like you are their friend, you have either been groomed (if you are young) or failed to stand up for yourself (if you are not) and in either case it is workplace harassment and you should get out if you can. all the "oh but it actually works" is cope and self-infantilization

>>102683029
No he's got a good handle on women
Just needed a filter between himself and the talent for uh, delicacy

>>102683029
Nijisanji almost got brought down for less.

>>102685812
>for less
nijisanji almost made a girl kill herself lmao

>>102684985
>comparing to holo
delusional. pc's niche is... asmongol's chat? man what a company

>>102679468
"took a break" before the ship started sinking, she knew beforehand it was coming

>>102685860
allow me to rephrase, selen "almost killed herself" for less. it is insane that these phase receipts are out there and are just used for twitter banter by the talents

>>102685935
Selen attempted twice after Elira's clique kept abusing her.

>>102685935
well, that's because the company isn't actively trying to sabotage the employees, and isn't hiring WAY more talents than their overworked, esl managers can handle

Keep in mind that Veibae just revealed that Vshojo had hardcore shills on /vt/ at all times, 99% chance this thread was made by a paid Phase Shill.

>>102686009
ok mowtendoo, we get it you don't like phase

>>102685873
>Too stupid to understand the point
Not my fault.

>>102674632
They're the 4th best, ackshually.

>>102686088
your point is shit, retard. focus on their own thing? their own thing is appealing to the audience of twitch streamers (and failing)

>>102686176
i think he might mean by western company. And even then he’s probably wrong. Although, phase do have a JP branch that is deader than dead wood.

>>102685532
>politeness and respect are not just the only appropriate option but also the most effective
Not saying that you are wrong, in fact what you are saying is more effective as business scales up. But from my experience, at a smaller scale with a younger age mean(1-5 person personnel around 20-30y/o) it is way more effective to be more casual since you are not seen as someone who is a privileged know it all.
You do bring a good point of an adult interacting with other adults, since you could argue that the age group I mentioned can be argued to never reached adulthood.

>>102686084
At least put some effort in making threads pablo, they're paying you after all.

>>102686558
paying...?

>>102673893
>Sayu revealed she was supposed to join Vshoujo but the company decided to ghost her
>>it was her idea to poach Nijis WHILE SHE WAS STILL IN THE COMPANY
Is this why Niji went nuclear on her?

>>102671873 (OP)
yeah

>>102686176
Wow, even after all the shit Niji ate, Niji EN is getting almost twice the views than Phase... that's sad.

>>102686832
nijiEN bots almost every single one of their talents

>>102686558
Wait, they got another charity to steal from? Vei is fucked and not in the usual way then

>>102671873 (OP)
Totally organic thread anon
Now cat's out of the bag, I wouldn't be surprised that /vt/ is now a shill haven

>>102686926
>that /vt/ is now a shill haven
shills are somehow worse than catalogfags, dramafags, and nonstop shitposters?

>>102686891
They actually didn't bot that much mid 2024 when that was captured, was between the luxiem peaks and the new engine bots that started early 2025.

>>102686926
It always has been

>>102686891
Finana's view count on her songs are definitely botted.

>>102686746
Wouldn’t be a surprise. Inside trading and poaching tends to be a big no no with Japanese companies since those places operate on the idea of loyalty and employees are consider a company’s property. It would be like a tech company having their hardware or software stolen and given to a rival company. Even when Cover grabbed Luna or hell when they grabbed Polka there was lots of noise from Niji and Kizuna Ai’s company. Sayu was lucky she wasn’t sent Yakuza enforcers who’d probably rape her, then take pictures and spread it all over the net and where she lived. Although, that would be more of Cover’s thing since they do have Yakuza connection.

>>102687122
I remember what, a few weeks ago? where she had like over 20k ccv?
like you want me to believe feesh is getting 20k ccv? lmao

>>102684995
Literally happening to Bae right now, we're at the part of the movie where he practices drums until his hands drip blood but it's passing out from exhaustion from dance practice

>>102687127
>yakuza enforcers
Doesn't she live in Canada?

>>102687127
>Cover’s thing since they do have Yakuza connection.
Source?

>>102687265
What? You never heard of the Canadian Yakuza? They got moose and dreadhawk powers. Very dangerous eh.
>>102687426
Lamy

>>102686176
>>102686330
May 2024 you retards

>>102671873 (OP)
What do you mean win?
All of Phase's numbers are in the fucking toilet right now despite there being masses of refugees right now. Their top talent barely gets over 2k anymore.

>>102686176
>>102686330
Excluding JP

>>102687953
You're right, I'm a retard the other was from last year

and WTF? how come Niji gets more views than Holo? are they THAT strong in JP???

>>102688099
The got the fujo market cornered

>>102688099
niji has like 240 fucking talents, and most of them are JP

>>102687953
niji about to collapse any second now, its over once they pissed off the en tards, the japs dont know whats coming or something

>>102674778
>the largest western vtuber corpo
Coffee mascots do it better

>>102688052
So Phase Connect is the #1 western based agency

>>102688099
Yes. They have a huge amount and sponsors via merchandise as well as more investors since they act as a traditional company, meaning the investors get huge payouts while their livers get jackshit as they are not consider employees but more contractors. In Japan still, Nijisanji is still a big name and whenever vtubing is mention it is Nijisanji first. They also have a large amount of livers to cover the base of merchandising, so they always have a niche to sell.
Cover on the otherhand is seen as much more apprehensive by investors because much of their money goes to the Holomem rather than investors so they feel they don’t get enough money and is not a good investment. Also Cover’s talents are employees and get a salary even if minimum and rather than vtubing Cover is still considered a Tech and entertainment company and rarely do they find decent investors since Japan being old fashion tend to not favor ambition cause its too volatile. Cover also only has a few known name that Sponsers want like Pekora or Suisei and it would seem sponsorship is decided by the Holomems if they want. It makes it limiting and harder for them in most cases compared to Nijisanji. Hololive being so grinded down at their home turf was why they went to China and the US. Had both failed, Cover would have prob cut down their Vtubing activity to minimum like that of phase connect and just sticked with their original plan of introducing VR and motion control tech.

>>102688099
>are they THAT strong in JP???
Yeah the main branch is still going strong despite the multitude of fuckups from the western branch.
A big factor in that is the fact that they were the first vtuber corpo to focus entirely on streaming

>>102674632
They are moving up not because they are getting better numbers but because the competition is imploding. I mean they still have 2 view talents.

>>102688418
If you want to limit it to geographical location of their HQ then yes. It's a stupid distinction to make though.

>>102688344
What happened with EN now? Other than finally firing sexpest nr. 23

>>102688099
they have like 400 streamers while holo have like less 70 members. wtf do you think?

>>102673893
>Turns out the COO was Melodies boyfriend, caused a lot of shit between her OG artist and was bad mouthing other talents at parties

Hold on, I've been seeing implications or evidence of everything else you've said here, but where are you getting that one from?

>>102689251
Someone posted a tweet of some artist or something exposing it and it got deleted

Iirc Tenma shit talks Sakana on the regular but she mentioned that she has made Sakana actually angry 1 time and he scared her shitless.

>>102682383
>>102683029
>>102683360
I dont know whether to think this is based or be mortified for the poor girl

He made Shiina drive him around in his own Benz.

Sounds like a great CEO to me desu

>>102689544
Didn't she backed his Mercedes into his boat?

>>102688099
they went with the Akib48 route and have like 200+ "talents"

so there is a Niji talent live at every hour of every day

>>102686960
>Catalogfags
Demoralization shills
>Dramafags
Defamation shills
>Nonstop Shitposters
Contrarian schizos aka useful idiot shills

>>102689562
She is a woman

>>102689562
not his boat, but someone else's I think

>>102689651
She is a tiny Chinese woman, the only way she could be a worse driver was if she was also brown and underaged

>>102689562
I don't think it was his boat but yeah. Going by how Shiina told the story he was surprisingly cool about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcG3VHLwNDI

>>102689521
it is incredibly based. Pushing people to better than they think they can be and watching them achieve is powerful stuff in any avenue in life. It also shows he believes in that talent and sees something there.
You know who has it worse? a girl who he doesnt push and doesnt even bother spending his time to tear down/build up. That means he sees little in you. Pressure makes diamonds.

>>102689388
AKA: Rrat with no proof.

>>102689388
>>102689799

>>102681856
It's reciprocal, they have no problem shit talking each other.

>>102689799
https://x.com/Digitrevx/status/1948441105063674339

>>102689920
>were convinced hololive was over when they signed kson and nazuna
Damn, vshojo management was even more delusional than the fans.

>>102674276
That is why he is the KING

>>102690219
It's gonna be interesting to see by how much the shitposting and falseflagging will decrease over the next weeks

>>102690226
He literally baked the first pcg’s with a trip of “Kevin”

>>102679457
You are not getting that charity embezzlement money paycheck .Dust off ya resume ASAP

>>102673893
Mouse is neck-deep in embezzling vshojo money too.

>>102690100
and this is proof how?

>>102689460
Wow who can't handle the bantz now. Very weak of him

>>102691464
He posted a picture of the guys uncensored face in a porn video. Look up her videos and compare voices I guess

>>102671959
pippa pussy

>>102674096
la li le lu

>>102692095
>>102691464
He's not some random guy either

>>102673893
lefties love doing charity stuff and then embezzling the money, all you do is get a company to match donations and then retract them, lefties live off virtue signaling epathy so doing fake charities for money is like doing crack while being fucked by a pack of gorillas to them

>>102671873 (OP)
He's just like Luigi, winning by doing nothing.

>>102692095
>>102692205
someone on that twitter thread said they looked up the videos and that the dudes face doesn't look the same as the COO's
also, didn't Melody and this artist guy have a falling out?

>>102675473
he might be Vietnamese, know a Vietnamese dude who speaks good Chinese guess it's useful to learn over there

>>102673109
That's not wrong. Can't disagree with that.

>>102672247
And who exactly ever mentioned vtuber companies to be falling out in general?
As far as I remember, Hololive and Phase are doing just fine.
Vshojo didn't fall off because their business suffered the end of lockdowns or some loss of interest in vtubers. It fell because of poor management and literal scams.

https://youtu.be/0FH1-MxUS_c
he was also a pro Pubg mobile player lmao

>>102692303
Maybe but the named porn actress went inactive in August 2019. The timeline kind of fits

>>102692534
kek

>>102678861
Seriously, idk how anyone could have an issue with her, her streams are always fun and cosy and she does consistent numbers, people really like to talk shit about things they know nothing about

>>102671873 (OP)
It was spammed in this board that Shondo is anti-corpo, and she was never going to join any corporation.
However, she says the opposite, she admits she had interviews with Vshojo in 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANdcxbMJVMo

The only thing that prevented her from joining was that she didn't want to collab with males.

>>102693141
Shondo: Im an indie forever!
Also Shondo: I auditioned and made it to the final stage of vshojo

Mint: I am an indie I don’t want another corpo
Also Mint: uhhh I actually signed with Vshojo over a year ago and have been u def contract with a corpo the entire time

These grifters just keep getting exposed

>>102692625
Yeah, the actress might have, but that doesn't mean the dude in the video is the COO of vshojo.
Plus, I don't think anyone is surprised that Mel was a porn star.

>>102676018
7/22/2025 is another day that will live in infamy on vt. Insane time to be here, wonder how the niji stuff went down

>>102690303
Fuck you, you made me check

>>102693236
>wait, mel does porn??

Sometimes I forget tourists exists

>>102690303
>>102693399
Remember when he commented on an old Lisa Chikafuji tweet that had been posted on /pcg/ a lot and creeped her out a bit?
Dumbass thought it was a recent tweet, because he had seen it on /pcg/.

>>102675290
Super indies arent corpos retard. Thats like saying Shigure Ui is a corpo.

>>102677638
I still laugh at how much brown seething this generated.

>>102677762
The majority of yabs are written in emotional appeal writing style. After asking for receipts and getting nothing, personally investigating and finding out yabs are blown out of context its not my fault my automatic response becomes shut your bitch ass up.

>>102671873 (OP)
>Fishman is a red herring for Mythic
Thats kinda punny.

>>102679639
Im glad Phase died then and ther.. wait a minute. It still exists? How

>>102679935
Fuck off Yuri

>>102680192
I remember starting to browse here a year before the NijiEN yab. Phase stayed in its lane and was considered a small growing corpo. Now it is medium sized and finally working on 3D and cons.

>>102688099
Nobody answered you with the real question.
It's koshien month the only month were Niji is above holo.

>>102673893
I want to see what he has on kaho shibuya and if he blackmailed her into sex.

>>102672310
noa talent died despite having infinite china money...

>>102671873 (OP)
TROON CONNECT

>>102673893
>Mint was a Vshoujo talent all along
That's not what she said. The podcast with Matara was exactly what they always said it was: a short term thing. But during the course of that she pitched the idol group idea to Gunrun and eventually signed. Nothing she said suggested she was poached from Niji.

>was supposed to lead a 4-group female idol gen
The idol gen was 3 members: Mint, Phoebe Chan, and one other who isn't coming forward. It was the monster girl gen that was supposed to have 4 members (one of which likewise hasn't revealed herself).

>>102671873 (OP)
Is this one of those company-mandated shill?
I thought it was just a meme, now I don't know what to believe anymore, the internet is really dead or is going to be

>>102689978
I need the uncensored version of this

I need to know what she called him

>>102695013
Rie's kind of a bitch to be fair

>>102695847
I want to believe fish is too cheap to pay people to shill, it's either him doing it himself or someone doing it for free.

>>102687544
you mean pajeets flooding canada?

>>102671873 (OP)
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>>102696077
still would

>>102685532
>>102686414
You are both right on the issue and that is the ultimate correct approach depends on who you are dealing with. Being straight laced with a person who is inquisitive and flexible will guarantee a joke at your expensive you would take offense to automatically and ultimately be the weaker link, other times the other party works best in a professional and respectable manner, only dropping their guard for people who they consider close and an acquaintance is none of that unless their good natured charisma bounces back and forth.
If you are too stubborn to stick to only one way you will definitely find yourself as the kill joy or asshole in the situation.

>>102686891
well yeah that has been clear enough. Anyone shilling Nijisanji gets ignored just like how their JP branch treats them.

>>102688912
Isn't that how numberfags cope in their 'debates'. Bunch of idiots that couldn't rrat out the vshojo situation.

>>102696077
Yeah, hot bitch

why is this board so mindbroken by Phase?