Thread 102686655

Best Michi Impression Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://twitter.com/Misakii_Art/status/1947871942918476024

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.youtube.com/@torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102680960

I'm compiling a list of people who are owed money from VShojo
Here's what I can recall, let me know if I'm missing something or if I'm wrong
>$500k to the IDF
>The equivalent of a house to Mouse
>The equivalent of a Ferrari to Kson (Likely over $200k)
>An undisclosed amount to Henya
>An undisclosed amount to Michi
>An undisclosed amount to Zen
>An undisclosed amount to Kuro
>An undisclosed amount to Mint
>All the other new hires also had debut budgets they received no compensation for
>Geega is owed "something"
>Nova is owed merch money from their debut, valentine's, and birthdays
>The equivalent of a Mercedes S-Class to Nyan (Likely over $100k, not sure if she's been partially paid yet)
>Silver was owed money (not sure if she's been partially paid but she is still owed money for tons of sponsors like Smite and Ironside)
>Vei was owed money (Only some of it got paid, not all)
>Potentially money to Mata as well
>Bricky is owed $15,000
>Panora Virtual Reality Japan is owed money as well
>Various contractors and such
>Any lenders they borrowed money from
>A bunch of artists (if any notable artists in particular let me know then I'll list them)

thank you for giving them hope

Even if it's combined 2.5k for the 3 of them is pretty solid. Hope it only goes up from here and hope the mysterious 4th girl shows herself

I love lewd waifu Mouse

>>102686731
false hope

>>102686749
MTD ruined this

>>102686727
>$500k to the IDF
I still need to be convinced they don't owe the 300k for the 2023 subathon.

>>102686735
I was just thinking about the 4th girl. She's kinda missing out on this initial viewership boost. So either the news really hurt her bad or she was already sizeable and doesn't want to reveal.

>>102686712
You know what they say about stuff that's easy to verify? No one ever bothers.

>>102686727
You forgot to add me, Gunrun owes me $5 for a Little Caesar's hot and ready pizza. I am not joking.

>>102686789
Nobody brought it up, so I assume that there was a brief period of time where vshojo actually had money

the pickle gen

>>102686765
Either him or vshojo might be a cause of the loss of degen Mouse and that pisses me off.
I hope we get her back.

>>102686813
I'd assume the former which is why I hope she can come out. Beri was fucked up pretty bad by it too but she's here and that's gr8

Off with their heads.

>>102686731
>>102686735
>>102686813
4th girl may be Camilla, she has shit dropping tomorrow and imps are monster girls. Granted, she is bigger than them but still.

>>102686727
>>102686833
He owes me too for all the backpay I'm missing for hating on Vei for free in this thread

>>102686849
Nothing shows that they paid it.
Mouse said they did but is that just because they said they did at the time.

>>102686883
that would be great to be honest cause maybe she and michi can boost them.

>>102686929
Yeah if it is her it makes sense she's waiting to reveal until tomorrow, so as not to pull traffic from these three today.

>>102686727
>Bricky is owed $15,000
for fuckin' what?

>>102686883
Or Grimmi because her graduation date was in March. She claims to not be involved with any of it though

Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that mtd and chris chan fucked

>>102686883
I really, really really wish this was the case. But there's just no way it's not sexual harassment.

>>102686998
Poker night

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India won
/vsj+/ lost

>>102686998
>>102682505

>>102687064
vsj has never in the history of the thread won

>>102687063
Once again, one of the only useful posters in this thread

>>102687009
Grimmi was never gonna join vshojo she applied to auditions around may, so two months after she ugraduated

>>102687031
Time will tell anon, we won't know for sure until her bomb drops.

>>102687009
an indie graduating to join VShojo makes no sense, also that was last year

>>102687009
Nah the timeline for Grimmi doesn't match-up, see: >>102687118

>>102687145
oh my sense of time is fucked

>>102686727
a japanese cryptobro named cl207 revealed he was in talks to purchase the company before ultimately backing out and showed chatlogs. outstanding debt of 2 million at least, as of june this year, and this likely doesnt include the misplaced charity funds.

>>102686735
here is yt num

>>102687118
>>102687145
Correction 1 year and 2 months

>>102686978
pink onahole

>>102686978
I am absolutely convinced camila is the 4th
She absolutely lost her shit on stream live when mouse quit.
Then she had a completely random collab with mint despite literally never interacting with her
And now she's dropping a nuke tomorrow

>>102687181
Link to his post again?
I might add it since that's probably the closest we may ever get to finding out the total sum

>>102687276
>She absolutely lost her shit on stream live when mouse quit
Got a link and timestamp to her reaction bro?

>>102687118
>grimmi will NEVER be in
>she already announced she got rejected from auditions
>the timeline doesnt add up
>she is literally going to do a model reveal tomorrow
>it will NEVER be grimmi
>cope and seethe

Geega said that Gunrun did fuck all most of the time. His main purpose was looking for funds. However, he only ever got the initial 11M. What the fuck did he think he was doing for 5 Yrs.

>>102686883
>>102687276
retarded post

>>102687356
What's she dropping then if you're so smart retard?

>>102687316
She went for a lot longer than this but this is the actual reaction part
https://youtu.be/bA_WEe7lRRY

>>102687310
https://x.com/CL207/status/1947911415651512533

Did you rike?

Sushidog recounting her nice story with Ryo (JP staff) during her first Winter comiket.

>>102687276
>>102687031
What if it's both. As soon as she got /in/ MTD tried to message her on Signal.

>>102687532
>Sushidog
I was really worried when you mentioned her name, I thought for a second you were gonna say VShojo fucked with her too

>>102687506
I used all my energy devouring the drama and I failed them. I apologize, they deserved better.

>>102687506
Thoroughly enjoyable background noise for upper body day, one caveat, It felt like Beri kept hiding her powerlevel, is that correct?

>>102687602
I'm a piafag, so I can't answer that sorry!
I know there's a beribro around here who might though

>>102687602
she was probably just nervous- i mean who could blame her

>>102687349
Nepotism, cronyism. What else is new? Upper management was all asian sc2 dudebros

>>102687602
she did seem to hold back a bit, I think she didn't wanna scare the hoes during the first collab

>>102687582
In her previous stream, she was talking about how she's worried that a significant part of her professional portfolio was effectively tainted, and they were late on one of her payments and required her to chase it up, which was giving her red flags at the time.

I kinda sped ran the info that i cared about.
So mint was like in a trial period with vshojo, who said make a group and you can be the next gen.
Mint invested a lot of time and money while not being paid for the mata summer collab?
Did i get that right?

>>102687387
Well damn, thanks anon.

>>102687622
she must be crashing so hard from the drugs.

>>102687645
Oh I;m not talking about the nervous part, just her trying to hide old "lore" that her chat kept referencing, I was sitting in her chat since she had the lowest noombas when I tuned in.

>>102687550
Given how the worst possible outcome has been happening at every point of this situation, I will bet that both are true

>>102687676
Yes to all and the trial period lasted an entire year.

>>102687692
Mouse you share less than 20% of you're audience with Connor, stop acting like they are one in the same.

twitch should replace the gunrun emote with this, https://x.com/ripnicolle/status/1948584070843433359/photo/1

What do you mean I shitposted about Silver FOR FREE THIS ENTIRE TIME???

>>102687813
Its sad to think she's only going to end up being hurt by Connor too.

>>102687673
Hopefully other businesses aren't retarded and assume the fact that she did some work for vshojo means she endorsed their behavior

>>102687902
Blud she's the mastermind who started this all off a misrepresented disease

>>102687890
If vshojo let me pay them to shitpost about silver, they would be operating in the black.

>>102687813
I want to say that this girl really needs a hug, but...yeah...

Shitposters right now.

>>102687890
At this rate half of this thread could form a class action lawsuit against VShojo for backpay

>>102687939
Yeah, but she's in Japan, and they can be a bit weird about stupid shit over there.
Chat was saying to reframe everything to be about the talents instead.

>>102687983
Oh so she was hiding the freak, my hunch was right

the Geega sloppa poster was on MTD's payroll

there is no proof that MTD was posting here

>>102687276
Camila would be interesting since I assume she'd be positioned as the leader of the group because she's actually big already. But I don't really buy it outside of her saying she has something to say.

>>102688010
me unironically

>>102688041
hiding?

>>102688047
i guess she's been staying offline

>>102688010
Just like real life, retards get paid dirt doing shit the unemployed can do better

>>102686731
precious beans

>>102687009
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/ewd6jyvt-by
Grimmi was going through a different application process

>>102688063
No I do it for free.

I think we gotta be careful with whoever Geega and the Niji girls sign up with next because right now they're all 2/2 for worst companies to be with

>>102687276
With this, yeah, it's pretty clear...
MAN Imagine Michi and Camila in the same team. Fucking cunts.

I don't mind watching the girls on Twitch much, but other than the arms race between them and ad blockers, is there anything like Hyperchat that I can use to filter out spammy chat messages like raid battle cries and billions of emotes? It's such a nuisance trying to read around the constant flow of them.

>>102688130
wow. a screenshot.

>>102688100
On the stream, she gave the vibe of a nerd at a party desperately trying not to out themselves

Why is everyone saying "heartbreaking"?
Are they just parroting mouses initial statement ?
It just feels kinda off.

>>102687868
I feel bad for all the innocent staffers especially in this economy. Hopefully they can find work soon.

>>102688158
You have severe autism

>>102688130
people have faked the pfp to fuck with people before

>>102688130
Oh, what a retard.

>>102688150
>ad blockers
use vaft
> spammy chat messages
ffz

>>102687813
/vt/ thinks Ironmouse stole the funds btw

Someone please tell me who the fuck is mtd

>>102688150
FFZ, Emote Less Chat addon

>>102688130
lol I forgot about that
I assumed it was fake but might actually be real now

>>102688203
that's you nigga

>>102688041
when it comes to bug chuubas I'd say it's fair to assume that they enjoy watching men being maimed, I think Yuzu is like the only normal one

>>102688157
>he fell for it

>>102688216
Mountain Dew

>>102688216
mewtend0 dunno

Hello guys
I just wanted to say that every single post you didn't like in the past 5 years was made by me. They payed me well
Sorry

>>102688269
>payed

anons

what the fuck did I miss? Did vei break NDA?

>>102688203
Eh maybe, I'd give that rrat like a 5% chance. A lot of moving parts for that to happen with out a whistleblower

>>102687316
The whole vod of that stream in 45 minutes, she pretty much ended the stream while holding back tears.

>>102688282
>Did vei break NDA?
maybe, we don't know what was specifically covered by her NDA, but it seems so

>>102688085
He literally tweeted this in response to a post saying "MTD stop vagueposting"

>>102688282
vei, nyan and silver all talked about a lot of things and mouse dmed aethel on stream a lot of shit that made him beyond pissed. tldr mtd is a snake and a half.

>>102688282
Yes, Vei broke NDA, but they can't touch her anyway. They have no money for a legal defense and their lawyer doesn't even have a fucking license anymore. The company is going under, so they gain fuck all from even trying.

>>102688282
yeah

>>102688312
prove it.

>>102688312
Unrelated but also found this bit of irony

>>102688282
Yeah, you could say that

Thinking about that one time someone donated to Vei "hey, do you still talk to Vshojo girls" and she said "NOPE" in a very weird tone.

>>102688282
Either the NDAs are basically worthless now or Vei thinks that VShojo suing her would be beneficial for her if anything

>>102688229
yeah beri is pretty bad when it comes to the fujo brainrot and seeing men being destroyed physically or psychologically

>>102688383
now we know

>>102688411
If they tried the discovery would absolutely annihilate them and public opinion would reach a fever pitch and cause a mob to form. It's just not worth it for them to even try.

>>102688312
>the dude who manages OneyPlays replied to the original tweet
huh

>>102688282
No one here knows anything about law, so it's all guesswork.

>>102688357
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/23120187/#q23126931
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/23120187/#23127365
https://x.com/MowtenDoo/status/1518667990585257985

can any of the girls (+kuro) even sue or anything for any of this shit? Maybe unpaid wages, but if the company is bankrupt they're shit outta luck I'm assuming 00amy

>>102688411
or maybe she's just retarded
seems really stupid to break nda you've refused to break for years because a ceo made a tweet, and not because you talked to your lawyer

>>102688489
Depends on if they go after the company proper or Gunrun himself. The latter would be harder, but they could maybe actually get their money if he has any.

>>102688462
Given that Vei claimed that they're voided now, it's probably best to assume that Vei, Nyan, and Silver's NDAs in particular are basically finished now. They probably checked up with a lawyer first to be safe.
This doesn't necessarily mean that other people's NDAs are voided though, everyone could have had different agreements.

>>102688216
mewtaiwando

>>102688383
>She could have possibly gotten sued if she said yes
Wild to think about

>>102688041
she's a hardcore MGS fujoshi, she ain't hiding shit

Kinda grim that schizos won...

>>102688492
Vei was one of the only ones smart enough to get out early. She is probably not as dumb as we think, at least on this sort of stuff.

>>102686727
Add half of /vsj/ shitposters into that list.

I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that there's a classic mistake going on.
rrat: I'm feeling Gunrun fell for the babby's first financial crime of drawing funds because the bank was looking good and using it for future commitments, but he had a bad season that made it all fall apart. With improper accounting, this engine stalled suddenly. Everyone coming out with unrelated shit is a vulture picking the corpse.

>>102687634
What would you suggest is a mustwatch Pia stream?

>>102688482
people were accusing him of vagueposting in the responses to his first tweet. he could have been repsonding to that. so those links prove nothing.

>>102688611
I was never getting paid, I did it for the love of the game

>>102688604
No the schizos were MTD

mtd still seething about vei. he simply forgot how to do anything else

what did she mean by this

>>102688666
honestly no clue

>>102688649
thank u for being kind to bewibug and her friends

>>102688666
shit is about to get a whole lot worse

>>102688666
mtd is on the Epstein list

>>102688666
check dm

>>102688666
mtd diddling underage?

>>102688697
Np

>>102688708
mouse please stream unless you still don't feel okay

>>102688089
The thing is, she's too big for the 2views and too not an idol for the idols. But the mint collab and the incoming drop tomorrow just makes too much sense

>>102688700
How could things possibly get any worse?

>>102688666
Mowtendoo flying to mexico lmao

>>102688782
mouse was sending a lot of DMs

>>102688666
mowtendoo better not ever go to cell block 1

https://x.com/MataraKan/status/1948603095631757559?t=Y0Lf4RxZklTuaGOHJxE88Q&s=19 Mata Front luv

>>102688666
that she likes black people? I dunno

>>102688572
She is streaming on Twitch no need to hide it gets deleted in 2 months anyway

okay but it is actually funny that The Hill thought connor supported the IDF

>>102688697
I will support the bug.

>>102688782
Well Camila is dropping something tomorrow and it's possible Nyan or someone else could drop a post soon

>>102688157
That's a good description. I think beri works best when her collab partner teases her.

>>102688832
Learn how to remove tracking links

>>102688839
wat

False reacting to the check DMs segments kek

Will purple man cover drama in some short video? I have no time to read threads or watch hours long essays

>>102688771
Or it could be completely unrelated to being an actual member. There's a lot of other things she could bring up lol

>>102687813
mouse I will rip out gunrun's heart and give it to you as a replacement

>>102688905
lmao

>>102688935
for non-americans, The Hill is a D-tier conservative newspaper in DC that mostly talks about politics

>>102688905
Mainstream news might actually be more useless than this site atp

>>102688905
The yakuza copypasta will become real but with hamas

>>102688782
Whatever Mouse has in store sounds like it's going to be absolutely fucking devastating. But I'm betting that will not see the light of day until the NDA's are gone, so in terms of the thread we'll have some peace in the meantime.
Nyan apparently has something coming. I imagine it'll be a lot like Vei's. Devastating in the moment, but not much more.
Camila's a wildcard. It could be a wet fart. It could be a nuke. But she said she has something tomorrow.

>>102688960
>The Hill
>Mainstream

>>102688905
well he did throw that one guy they had on their podcast under the bus for being pro palestine

>>102688666
gun "I'll let you in if you just do me a favor" run

>>102689017
I'm thinking more actual crimes will come to light

>>102689062
GUN ACTUALLY KILLING PPL?

>>102686918
This might be a hot take and I'm not trying to blame Mouse, but this whole "50% subathons-as-charity" thing was fucking stupid. Never should have done it that way. Want to do charity? Just do charity. Want to do a subathon? just do a fucking subathon. Don't mix it with personal/company profit.
Tiltify or similar, or just don't bother. I hope she doesn't do this in the future because it's fucking dangerous and fraught to have people dealing with $x00k dollars of earmarked charity money, you're begging to get embezzled from which is what fucking happened. Whichever personal managers she has in the future aren't trustable with that sort of temptation either.

>>102689017
Mouse will surely drop the biggest nuke, but it will also take the longest out of them all.
Aside from Nyan and Camila it wouldn't surprise me if we see more from other members as well dropping stories overtime whenever their NDAs are done.

>>102688839
known radical zionist Connor "The Path To The Holy Land Will Be Paved By The Skulls Of Our Enemies" Cdawg

>>102688635
Ok so the first thing you need to know about Pia is that she barely plays games. She is a chill yapper that gets very silly sometimes.

This is an excellent yap stream
https://youtu.be/D0LmHjofsOk

This is a 2 part thing where she baited everyone with a model reveal she teased a bunch and then did the first stream. Then the actual model reveal was the second stream. Definitely see them back to back.
https://youtu.be/M6Q2HJCQt8Y
https://youtu.be/nfQMQDtjN7Q

And watch this if you're horny
https://youtu.be/XLs8SDAE0pM

>>102689107
I don't agree, doing a subathon and pledging to donate 50% was fine.
She could have easily done a subathon and just kept it all.

>>102688839
Can't wait for the Netanyahu episode on Trash Taste!

>>102688627
>Everyone coming out with unrelated shit is a vulture picking the corpse.
It must be hell managing women. Once they have an opening all the hidden feelings come out.

What if it comes out that it was Gunrun who gave Haruka covid?

i'm hearing reports that connor PERSONALLY ordered the strike on the church

How long until Zen adopts all the /in/dies that didn't get in before the org exploded?

>>102689017
Vei and Silver are emotional retards that overinflate the situation.
Nyan and Mouse are reasonable and I believe they'll come out with substantive shit.

>>102689185
Bro, it's not fine. The money didn't get donated, it got stolen, which was foreseeable.
It's not transparent, it's not smart, it's too tempting for thievery. It was a really bad idea. How can we call it anything but a bad idea, it literally resulted in $500k of theft that won't be recovered. It's demonstrably a terrible fucking idea.

>>102689202
Thats the mildest yab you could possibly think of.
Die

>>102689107
It will be fine if she does it again, literally all she needs to do is do the donation on stream or post proof.
I do think twitch should implement a way to do charity subathons.

when is silver gonna drop the nuke

>>102689259
She already did

>>102689215
I've recieved conformation that it wasnt even a missile strike, connor drove a bulldozer called "the cyclothon" directly into an orphanage filled with crying gentile children

>>102689240
>which was foreseeable.
One of the biggest vtuber orgs stealing charity money was not foreseeable lmao

>>102689240
>which was foreseeable.
No it was not fuck off.
Doing it this way is better than not doing it at all, don't blame Mouse because vshojo was shitty and didn't pay the money.

>>102689107
Subathon record gets wide media coverage if you can reach and surpass it. Tying it to a charity means coverage for the charity that it would never have gotten otherwise. It's her using her platform to bring them up in the best way she has. Letting the company ever touch the money was a terrible mistake, but Gunrun presented himself as her actual friend who wanted to help her. Maybe you can say it's naive to have ever belived that, but if you don't understand how it could have made sense to someone in her position you're not trying.

>>102689279
Based on rumors, she didn't. Then again, those are just rumors.

>>102689292
This, subathons are fine and if anything Mouse caused a big shift in subathons because now many streamers now give some of it to charity.

>>102689240
If it's the classic situation I'm thinking about, I don't think it was foreseeable. It was simply bad accounting that caused payments to get later and later.

>>102689311
It's possible there's even more but ultimately it's up to Silver if/when she wants to share more info (same with all the other girls as well)

>>102689290
>Doing it this way is better than not doing it at all
Why does it have to be a subathon? Just do it via Tiltify, which is transparent and trusted, which is what she's doing right now! It never had to be a subathon!

>>102689311
Half the rumors are literally from people contracted to post here. Although they never get paid even when they send the screenshots of the posts and replies they generate and properly invoice everything. They just get ignored. But they still made the posts.

>>102689373
like it or not people want that sub count.

>>102689223
we are working on it.

>False reacting to Aethel's stream
>Hears Aethel get mad at MTD
>Says that he's known about MTD being "weird" for about a year now
>Mentions knowing of a specific incident that, if he said it out loud and the person involved did not come forward to say it was them, then he could be sued for defamation
oh boy

>>102689342
>because now many streamers now give some of it to charity
Do they? We all thought Vshojo gave half to charity in 2024, and they didn't.

>>102689425
must also be one of the 50 million mouse dms to aathel

>>102689425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eK-2OQtew&

I was thinking about that news outlet that said Vshojo owed money to.
How many other outlets were paid for?
Rolling stones?
idk
Good night, don't break anything while I'm away

>>102689373
She can do that now because of the audience and connections she's built over years of work. Including the subathons. Which because they broke records and got so much attention, let her grow and reach a wider network to collab with and etc. If she had done a tiltify instead of the first subathon she would have raised 20k or something and no one outiside her community would have ever heard of it. It's because she did it the way she did that she grew to a point she can raise more than a million dollars in two days. One only happened because of the other.

mtd re-enacted the pepsiman video in front of an unwilling audience

found this in my folder from 2 years ago lmao

>>102689170
Thanks, I'll check them out. Always daunting checking out streamers and seeing their vod history

>>102689461
If they don't they will be found out eventually.
Twitch should give people an option of setting a percentage that goes directly to a charity.
People are always going to want to do subathons.
I even want Mouse to do anther one next year.

>>102689410
So... Marketing? Streamer marketing? Headlines? Getting the record?
Sorry, again, not trying to villainize mouse, but I don't think that's a compelling reason that this had to happen. I think the lesson learned here should really be "Don't mix non-transparent subathons and charity", not "Trust whichever manager she has in the future to ALSO not steal half a mil+ of money".
But I've said my piece, I'm not trying to have some giant debate

>>102689425
Ah so it can in fact get worse

>>102689513
kek

>>102689373
it's so when people forget to cancel their subs you can pocket the money

You know, at least they didn't went to the talents with the whole "hololive living rent free"

>>102689529
>not trying to villainize mouse
You are though.
Yes it should have been transparent but that could have been done by paying it on stream or posting the screenshots as soon as it is done.
You are basically saying most fundraisers are bad because a lot of them raise money and pay it to the charity after, things like tiltify are very new and people have been doing fundraisers for years without things like this.

>>102689425
>>Mentions knowing of a specific incident
could it be? >>102688666

>>102689425
Oh so he is a pedophile. Cool, great, just when I thought THIS SHIT COULDN'T GET ANY FUCKING STUPIDER.

>>102689529
The amount you can raise for charity depends on the size of your audience. The subathons grew her audience, and thus increased what she could raise for charity. Despite losing 500k donations, she still did more, overall, for her charity goals, because of the subathon aided growth, than she would have without doing them. You're not trying to have a debate because there's nothing to debate. You're just wrong.

At this point it could come out that vshojo secretly orchestrated the niji black screen stream from behind the scenes and I don't even know if I would bat an eye

>>102689529
gunrun participated in multiple IDF fundraising events in person, mouse had every reason to believe he wouldn't steal charity money

>>102689471
Unless any other outlets are also owed money (which wouldn't surprise me at this point) we will probably never know since news outlets will never reveal which groups are paying them since that will make it less likely for them to get paid by other groups

>>102689525
>If they don't they will be found out eventually.
Will they? How? Vshojo only got found out because they went insolvent and stopped paying everyone, I mean jesus.
A single streamer could pocket the money, or their manager pocket the money, and there's nobody to know.

>>102689515
No problem! Also, if you want a VERY important milestone for her which only takes about 20 minutes of watching and is also very entertaining, check out this timestamp.

https://youtu.be/RFwvg4zrvKo?t=1650

To give some lore here, this is the literal moment that pretty much led up to pia being where she is now. She might not have even gotten into the vshojo auditions without this.
She basically got into this vdere palworld building contest and gave it her ALL. And she got first place out of a whole lot of people.
This led to her being selected to be a guide for dokibird and shylily in a twitch rivals palworld match a little bit later. Which pretty much snowballed everything else including the mint concert and, probably, vshojo.

This 20 minute timestamp was literally her big break

>>102689674
No we found out because Mouse found out it had not been paid

>>102689671
I’m kneeling

>>102689686
I'll check that in a bit but I like Punkalopi she's great

>>102689674
All charities records are public.
If you raise money for a charity publicly you will be found out eventually.

>>102689642
you need to learn nuance.

>>102689642
Saying she did something naïve and stupid, because it LITERALLY resulted in $500k of charity money losses in real life, admitted by her, that she only found about about nearly a year later, and suggesting gently that she shouldn't do that in the future on an anonymous discussion board, is not fucking villainizing.

>>102689671
When the fuck did Vei get so based? I need to start watching her streams.

>>102689513
>>102689716
That medication? roofies

>>102689664
I honestly think it's classic financial mismanagement paired with a streamer setting rife with drama and unrelated problems. What's kind of obvious is that Gunrun would've paid if the company had money. Kind of a nothing statement, but even obvious things have implications on the behavior. They placed unwarranted trust on the company having money.

>>102689671
I'm sorry Vei. I kneel i will now watch you play Euro bank games

>>102689223
her discord self organized offline raids into their streams today, shit was pretty cute

>>102689686
It's crazy how impactful moments like this are for streamers. Like Snuffy had a single viral moment reacting to a cutscene in Last of Us and out of the momentum that gave her she's been an A list indie ever since.

>>102689671
i hope for her sake she's right

>>102689482
they're cute, i hope things work out for them

>>102689758
She should do it again, she just needs to make the payment herself.

>>102689513
I have a few too

>>102689785
>Gunrun would've paid if the company had money
they fucking had the money, it wasn't theirs to spend on anything else

>>102689822
Watch them and it will

>>102689844
Incorrect. If they use the funds to meet past commitments, as long as the cashflow is okay, no crime is committed. A crime is committed if the cashflow dries up. This is why I called it babby's first financial crime.

>>102689844
they clearly didn’t lol, retards were overspending in 2021

Bruh... wth did MTD do that they're holding onto?

>>102689686 (me)
Oh I forgot the most important bit that this was all improv

>>102689785
>Having trust your employer will pay you as dictated by your fucking CONTRACT is "unwarranted"
You are actually retarded.

>>102689901
>If they use the funds to meet past commitments
they shouldn't be doing tthat

>>102689915
Probably sexual harassment.

>>102689915
He is a alcoholic 4channer furry. It could be any sort of heinous thing.

>>102689785
Gunrun is personally wealthy enough to settle up all of his companies debts, right now, without even an imact to his lifestyle. The entire project was something he started with play money. It woudln't make up for the stress and harm he's caused, but he could at least even out what he owes financally.

>>102689839
>pic ended up being accurate

>>102689940
No shit, it's bad practice in general and criminal if the cashflow dries up. The company is missing payments, all their products walked away, and they are going bankrupt. Does that look like good practices?

>>102689671
lol weren't people in this thread saying the same thing

>>102689983
Thank god I'm just a sober 4channer furry

>>102689901
No, you're very wrong. Donated funds for charity are restricted, must be set aside, and CANNOT be used for operating expenses.

>>102689937
See where that warranted trust got them? Maybe it's not a moral judgement or calling them stupid, but objective reality. A mistake is a mistake even if a reasonable genius would make it.

I know the "it can't get worse" meme but i have a feeling the NDA is holding back some important info. Not that i feel like anyone is over reacting but I feel like there is a bigger yab thats not being talked about.

>>102690028
You are incredibly fucking naive.

>>102689994
it's criminal even if the cashflow doesn't dry up. what do you think happened to enron

>>102690036
you should be able to trust your employer to not break the law

>>102690028
See anon, the issue that i think the other dude is trying to raise, is that sub money isn't exactly a "donation".

>>102690076
I'm talking in terms of legality, anon, not practicality. Obviously they CAN be embezzled if someone wants to risk going to prison, which is what happened here, but they can't LEGALLY be used for operating expenses.

i love boobibug

>>102690065
I don't know what that thing that Mouse sent Aethel today that broke his heart was, but it must be pretty fucking bad

>>102690065
The NDAs and waiting for legal processes are probably hiding the worst things.

>>102690065
Aethel was pissed at some of the stuff Mouse was sending him. There 100% is worse stuff. It's just a question of when it will come out.

My bet is on Gun SA at cons.

>Yab
Amateur open mic night tonight

>>102690197
>>102690136
>>102690133
Was that a stream from today?

>>102690215
That seems more like MTD's ballpark

>>102690130
This turned me on
I will watch your bug now

Speaking of, what's the tampermonkey script that everyone uses to have soundposts work? Got 4chanX to work via it but still can't get soundposts

>>102690215
This but Connor

>>102690261
4chan sounds player

>>102690087
You should, and it's reasonable to trust vshojo to pay if they have a contractual obligation. It's still a mistake to trust them. You're making a judgement on oughts, I'm judging what objectively happened. Obviously I don't think everyone should read the future, are you stupid? You're barking over a difference in perspective that's probably not even a difference in opinion. Just that you don't like one of the perspectives I'm taking. How do you discuss that perspective if you can't take it?

>>102690228
you're on an "anon" image board retard.

>>102690249
Yes Aethel's stream. He talked about/revealed a bunch of stuff, reacted to a bunch of the statements posted, and Mouse was in chat saying some things as well and DMing him some info that is kept private for now

>>102690284
I just hate the victim blaming bullshit where people like you blame the victim for not predicting the future

>>102690301
Regulars don't say yab is all I'm saying. Wonder why you feel a way about it

>>102690341
See, you're making a moral judgement. I'm not. I emphasized that for a reason. There's no right way for a victim to behave. You can't blame a victim for not running fast enough.

Did we find out who the manager was that Kaho was talking about? I think doki said something about that.

>>102690387
Mouse and Aethel know who it is, but check dm

I don't understand why Gunrun doesn't stream on Chaturbate—it would allow VShojo to pay off its debts immediately.

>>102688063
i havent been here for a while i just have been in /big/

>>102690425
He only fucks people financially and emotionally

And it begins...

I want ironmouse vcards

Still watching False and I never saw the Quinn thing but lol at what he's saying. Seems like the reason they stopped trying to acquire him is because they set their sights on Kuro instead. So that's a great outcome

>>102688688
Somebody likes music.
And likes striking a chord.
and it's probably A minor

>>102690452
oh no hitlercunnyrapist1488 is being mean to mouse, what will we do

>>102690387
Doki said "btw the manager was *iforgotwhatshesaid*"
But I'm not Sure if that was releted to kaho

*Screams is so scared* a twitter post with 182 likes!?

>>102690481
if thats the case then yep lol

>>102690452
Why post this?
These people can go fuck themselves and Mouse should not care what morons like that think.

>>102690278
huh doesn't work on chrome and tampermonkey

>>102690481
rare gunrun w

>>102690542
works on firefox vioentmonkey

>>102690481
Why did gunrun even think this was a good idea in the first place

>>102690542
works on my machine :)

>>102690452
Oh no these guys didn't hear vshojo isn't signing the schizo checks anymore

>>102690542
Have you tried just using 4chan xt? It has sound working built in.

>>102690589
probably thought he could cause the collapse of nijisanji and yoink all the talent

>>102690589
His idea for vshonen was asking Aethel for suggestions kek, nigga had no ideas at all

>>102690542
no one is forcing you to use chrome

>>102690542
here try this to see if it works now

>>102690497
https://youtu.be/5dEq3rIQRn4?t=2815
Your thinking of this and she was talking about her manager not saying anything about how much money she donated.

>>102690701
vei is

>>102690542
>>102690709
im retad

>>102690427
why'd you stop producing ai slop of geega copulating with dark skinned men

>still uses chrome
just use brave dude.
It's basically chrome.

>>102690612
Thanks for the XT tip, this one works
>>102690701
My fucked up eyes and firefox's retarded font rendering that can't be changed do

>>102690754
exactly. for that reason, use firefox instead.

Why didnt hiroshimoot buy vshojo

>>102690778
Vei is about to cancel you bro

>>102690754
I hate how Brave forces a bright purple theme when you go incognito

>>102690781
too woke

>>102690778
I really tried to like firefox, but it's laggy for me and freezes streams when I use FFZ

>>102690816
Damn this brings memories. What ever happened to that vei firefox schizo years ago? I almost forgot about him

>>102690781
>buys vshojo
>adds 5 talents no one asked for and that provide nothing of worth
>creates a Vshojo Pass to be VIP's in channels
>does nothing else ever again
Better than Gunrun I guess

>>102690840
I regret to inform you that firefox schizo was on the VShojo payroll, and is now being arrested for charity fraud.

>>102690797
How often do you need to go incognito for that to matter ?
It doesn't do anything more then stop it from being in your search history, and if you haven't already configured your shit to not save that stuff i dont know what to tell you.

>>102690816
wait hang on. brave shills are OK?

it was never possible to save nazuna, was it

Elon will buy Vshojo and hire only one talent - Grok GF

>>102690873
ye

>>102690888
It would have probably helped if they had other JP vtubers for her to interact with at the time.

>>102690926
*in gunruns head

>>102690481
Hiring Quinn would have been so weird, dodged bullet in my book
There wasn't much of a reason to hire male vtubers into vshojo in the first place, you ask me... I'm not a unicorn, I promise...

>>102690888
>recruited as some sort of killer stroke towards Hololive (how??) with no other plan in mind
Probably no

>>102690926
We don't even think about you

>>102690925
like henya
oh wait

>>102690950
No you're right. Even Aethel thought that.

>>102690816
>>102690840
Not those anons, but I have used Firefox for almost four years now. I can't imagine changing back to a browser without the Multi-Account Containers system that Firefox has. It's what Chrome's "profiles" system should have been. I also never have the performance issues people talk about, but I'm on Linux with an AMD GPU, which tends to be a great combination.

>>102690963
He said they would have worked if they were just shitposting and having fun, rather than trying to be Luxiem 2.0

>>102690926
>He thinks its controversy wont cause problems for holo too.
Anon people are already using this in a "we thought you were the good one" way and I've seen plenty of people say if vshojo was like this how bad are the other vtuber corpos

>>102690939
Lets be honest, everyone stopped pretending they use Opera: Gamer Edition when that ad campaign stopped. Hell I bet she gets more viewers in her stream then there are current users of the actual browser.

>>102690953
The plan was to make her talk and spill the beans about the behind the scenes work at Hololive

I really hate that tectone is inserting him self into this shit. If it wasn't or him i feel like i would watch more silver and vei streams.

>>102691012
>Gunrun after having to listen to a 9 hour rant about how Towa totally hated her because she didn't say hi once that reveals nothing of Hololive's inner workings

>>102691026
If it makes you feel better he hasn't been relevant to them for ages. 2022 Silver and Vei sure. 2025 not so much

>>102690994
VShojo asking Aethel which male vtubers to hire was actually one of their few good ideas aside from him recommending Quinn
Too bad they didn't listen him at all lol

>>102691026
Tectone inserts himself into every drama because he has nothing to offer other than ragebaiting.
Also I'm pretty sure none of the leavers have interacted with him in ages.

>>102691026
I wouldn't even be aware of his existence if you faggots stopped bringing him up out of nowhere

>>102691026
I don't think he has interacted with them, or many other vtubers in general, ever since the allegations against him dropped

>>102691083
and kabahl or whatever, that guy was kinda lame

>>102691094
Its because people are taking his "MTD isn't innocent" bait.

so when is geega dropping her google dookie

>>102691094
everything i've ever learned about "asmongold" has been explicitly against my will

>>102691124
Kabhaal is a neat dude but not someone you would pick to form an anime boy band

>>102691139
she never did for MSM, she will never do for Vshojo. Geega is a giant (9 inch) pussy

>>102691139
Now that I think about it, this drama has been surprisingly lacking in google dockeys. It has mostly been videos and tweets.

>>102691124
Kabhaal is at least a nice guy even if a bit boring

>>102691200
There's really nothing to dockey because of NDAs.

>>102691063
>>102691091
>>102691119
Thats good to hear. I just remember watching them years back and then not being able to stand when he joined. Haven't watched since.

>>102691184
this town's like a great big pussy just waitin to get fucked

>>102691200
NDAs preventing people from revealing everything at once.
Ironically this might actually have made things worse for VShojo since it's causing the drama to drag out for longer.

VShonen was going to happen but MTD shut it down because he didn't want to get cucked.

>>102691001
There is no such thing as a free lunch
You western corpo retards really believed that talents can have 100% cut and still get free supports from company
It's a fucking scam LMAO

At least it can't get any worse now.

stop saying that

>>102691312
The talents weren't getting 100% cut, there was a corpo merch/sponsor cut, the company just fucking overspent on irrelevant shit

>>102691353
SHUT UP

Geega has already said more about the downfall of Vshojo than she did of MSM and that really annoys me for some reason.

>>102691353
i remember when that happened. shit was crazy.

>>102691386
Because this time she saw it coming and wasn't blindsided by it, she was completely duped by MSM

>>102691386
no one cares about MSM, a lot of people care about Vshojo

Here is my orbital skitzo take.
Onigiri and shadow have been sharing vtuber information they have gotten from all the vshojo girls who have visited.
If im right buy me a coke in 2027

Geega please show us your cute little butt

>get home from touching grass
>watch Aethel VOD while catching up on thread from this morning
>took 4 hours
What a fucking day. Amd i agree Mouse better extend the charity drive to cover this weekend i really hope she does. This story is breaking wide open

Talking about less dramatic stuff, Ama's last song is some good shit. Didn't even watch that movie because it looked really fucking gay, but I have listened to her cover like 200 times.

>>102691493
Yep, extremely chaotic.
Thankfully it looks like things are dying down now and can't get any worse from here.

The truth is mtd recorded a video of him shoving an ironmouse nendo up his ass and would randomly share it to talents without getting their consent first

>>102691528
We need to exile these posters

>>102691537
What's wrong with that?

>>102691493
I'm so behind. I've been doing double to cover for someones vacation at work and I'm piecing together random info.

I can't wait to hear that Gunrun was arrested bros.

Surely it can't get any horse

>>102691569
Can't wait for you to learn about THAT

>>102691537
....that wasn't MTD

>>102691495
>Didn't even watch that movie because it looked really fucking gay
fake fan

>>102691537
I mean if that was true that would genuinely be bad. But also funny as fuck lmao

>>102691537
If this gets confirmed I'll shove an Ironmouse nendo up my ass and post the video here.

>mfw geega
https://youtu.be/30mvxjcfCGI

So considering he left Vshojo before the bomb went off and the accusations against him have just started, wouldn't it be in MTD's best interests to escape to Thailand or whatever the furry version of Thailand is?

>>102691537
You know, under any other normal circumstance, I would just consider this random 4chan fuckery, but given everything that's come out and everything we've learned... We're at a point where anything you could just randomly make up out of your head is just as likely to actually be true.

So how much ignacio seethed everytime a talent praised or collabed with a hololive member?

>>102691719
by sheer happenstance, mtd was already in thailand having sex with ladyboys before any of this blew up

>>102691598
https://files.catbox.moe/amg5lw.jpg

>dokibird feeling slighted that she was never asked to join the black corpo
would you feel bad if your were her?

>>102691719
>or whatever the furry version of Thailand is?
Also just Thailand

>>102691537
This is libel and slander. I am not MTD.

>>102691719
Literally everyone at the head of Vshojo should be getting out of the country ASAP if they want to avoid prison time, including MTD.

>>102691773
He probably saw it as them showcasing the superiority of vshojo so the holo could be poached in the future

>>102691807
if thats true. its understandable but not unwarranted. I mean its like getting fired from your last job and leaving in the most destructive way, companies aren't going to take that lightly when hiring.

>>102691807
To be fair Doki could be seen as an actual brand risk after what happened at Niji. Whether Niji drove her to her attempt or not is irrelevant, as objectively there's no way to prove she is mentally stable and none of it was her fault. If I was running a vtuber corp, I wouldn't hire her either, and I say this as someone with absolutely nothing against Doki.

>>102691807
She can bond with Geega, the only talent MTD didn't try to fuck

>>102690867
I go on incognito by default because I'm very particular about what shows up in my browsing history. I only go non-incognito for pages/videos I really like and email/business stuff.

slops back on the menu boys

[Paid for by MTD]

>>102691899
Can't believe Jerma stole from charity

>>102691899
kek

Why is Shondo repeatedly inserting herself in all this?

>>102691807
She was sad because she was viewed as untouchable and "radioactive" after what happened to her and no one wanted anything to do with her

>>102691899
OH FUCK LOL

>>102691913
>repeatedly
explain

>>102691913
There are a lot of vtubers doing that.

>watching the VOD
>monstergirl gen was to debut in the summer
uhm I thought they were audition hires?

>>102691949
The audition was a scam

>>102691899
i don't get it

>>102691949
They were initially set to debut in March
That got pushed to June
Then to October
Then to March (2026)
Auditions opened in Summer last year. So yes that timeline adds up

>>102691870
They hired nazuna

>>102691878
If your very particular then you should do some research as to what the scope of incognito is in your browser and decide if you need additional measures.
thats all ill say on that.

>>102691971
This is a picture from Monke's charity auction for the IDF of Gunrun sitting behind Ross.

>>102691971
It's photo evidence of him being present for the charity stream.

>>102691976
>Then to March (2026)
even if vshojo hadn't of imploded, that's insane

Does all of this shit mean that we have to apologies to Keyfags?

>>102691934
What do you mean explain? I see her popping up everywhere related to all this, much more than a lot of the members who were actually affected.

>>102692003
You could say that about a lot of the stuff we have learned

>>102692003
Especially when you consider they weren't allowed to stream at all after being hired. A fucking year and a half where you aren't getting paid AT FUCKING ALL and they had to pay for their own models and rigs out of pocket too.

>>102692000
This is one of the annoying things about this. None of these photos of him at charity events are the one where the money went missing. That one was Mouse's subathon. Not the walkathon or speaking at the white house or the charity auction or twitchcon or anything like that.

I think people said he did appear on the subathon at some point? If he did that would be something worth sharing. But a completely unrelated charity event is something else.

>>102691977
The risk was worth it in their eyes to get someone so high profile. I.e someone from holo.

Went out after Vei's post and Zen's post about being thrown to the wolves. Did anything happen after that?

>>102692029
Whoa lets not go that far

>>102692066
Geega implied there is pedophilia involved

>>102692066
Could be bombshell coming or just a random shitpost

>Watching False
>Something he has known for a while is that the generals /here/ have mods run by their respective agencies not just vshojo
Huh

>>102692066
Was Aethel still live? He talked for a bit. Henya went live and was sad but chat cheered her up and she's doing much better. Mata went live and got a bit emotional at the end of stream but is respecting the NDA. Think that's about it for today. Tomorrow expect Camila and probably Nyan. And that might be everything until NDA's explode and we get a fresh wave of EVERYONE talking.

>>102691913
I still can't believe VShojo requires them to male collab

>>102692030
what I mean is I've only seen her talk once about her failed interview
if you're just talking about her tweeting about vshojo, everyone is doing that and I wouldn't describe that as "inserting herself" into the drama at all

>>102692057
There's multiple examples of him retweeting posts referencing Mouse's relevant subathon. He knew.

>>102691991
I don't care about the privacy aspect if that's what you're referring to. It's just me wanting a convenient way to choose what shows up in my browsing history without having to selectively pause or delete all the time.

>>102692102
>known
more like made up

>>102692124
Yeah I'm not saying he didn't. Just that pics of him at Connor's charity auction are unrelated to Mouse's 2024 subathon.

>>102691807
That's like recruiting a cult survivor to a cult. There was a risk that she would have it easier than most to spot the red flags.

>>102692106
didn't nyan already do hers?
or do you mean a nda breaking response

>>102692102
False is one of their agents. He's fulfilling his last duty to slander other companies.

>>102690962
She had already talked about quitting on stream before Henya even joined

>>102692102
No wonder this place has no moderation

>>102692166
She did a post but Aethel HEAVILY implied she was working on something and would drop it soon. Unless she backed down because he made it sound like it would happen during his stream then I'm guessing that's tomorrow. Probably NDA breaking like Vei's yeah.

>>102692102
Does he mean jannies by mods?

>>102691949
Effectively, when they no longer had enough money to contract artists the ponzi scheme fell apart, the entire model was pay expenses with debut revenue

>>102692166
I don't think Nyan's post was actively breaking anything since she was mostly talking about event that happened after she had even left the company

>>102692166
All of them likely have even more things they could say that they couldn't due to NDA threats. Now that those are slowly going away, more people could open up with stuff overtime.

>>102688282
NDA's exist to protect companies from former employers hurting them with inside knowledge. You can't abuse an employee, much less a contractor, and make them sign an NDA "because revealing their abuse would hurt the company". You'd get laughed straight out of court.

why are we surrounded by retards
gunrun knew about the charity. his claim is that he did not know the funds were misplaced until they were already spent. an employee saw an account with 500k in it and used it to pay a chunk of the 2+ million dollars in late payments and debts, and gunrun is falling on the grenade for him, because the finances being fucked up enough for that to even happen is ultimately gunruns fault.

>>102692233
I knew gunrun was actually a saint

>>102692198
I'm guessing Nyan is gonna try to be a little smarter about it first unlike Vei and ask a lawyer about any potential risks of dropping a nuke this early

>>102692233
Crazy ask but could they have deposited it into a fund that was marked for a garnish on a loan?

>>102692233
Shut the fuck up Gunrun. Stop trying to make yourself look like some fucking brave valiant hero diving on a grenade for this poor shithead employee that doesn't even fucking exist.

>>102692087
>>102692098
I assume this is referring to MTD specifically.

>>102692106
I saw most of what Aethel said but he read Zen's post and then was watching LOTR stuff and I had to leave so I didn't see anything after that. Thanks for the rest. Henya had been live while I was around but I missed most of her stream.

>>102692261
Vei didn’t even drop the nukes

missed a bunch of news today but I did hear VEIN GANG IS BACK.
anything else major i miss in the last 14hrs? it was a long day at work ):

>>102692233
I mean Gunrun is kinda cute, I'd let him financially ruin me, if you get what I'm saying.

>>102692288
Aethels vod is 10/10 for only a 5 hour stream

>>102692112
All those Aethel, Connor, and Heavenly collabs were forced on them. Disgusting.

>>102692066
When zen talked about "being thrown to the wolves" who were the wolves? I don't remember anyone harassing her personally.

>>102692311
I'm talking about Shondo, autismo

>>102692276
gunrun absolutely fell on the grenade in his tweet. the big problem is that hes doing this to cover for MTD and apek, which is possibly even more retarded than crashing the company in the first place.

>>102692292
Looking forward to people in this thread claiming Mouse and Nyan still hate each other even if they're in the middle of a collab together

>>102692310
Because Aethel has always been an amazing dude with a great sense of humor and some quick sharp wit. Love Mlord.

>>102692313
She means twitterniggers making fun of her

>>102692203
Yes. Apparently he himself knows little about /here/ this is just based on his sources.

>>102689279
I listened to the vod earlier and the worst thing I heard was about how gunrun pulled her into a discord call during the wizard game shitstorm and called her a brand risk and a liability to the rest of the girls and suspended her streaming activities, did I miss anything else?

>>102691913
I would repeatedly insert myself into Shondo.

>>102692313
2Views and vtweeters who constantly used her as the point of attack about the auditions. Mostly because she was pushing for it and is often seen as a champion of the smaller guy, but of course it is also coming from schizos and spergs who probably don't know or care about that and just want to harass her or somebody.

>>102692345
If only he did a ph check on pink cat's pussy before putting his jaw anywhere close...

>>102692328
>gunrun absolutely fell on the grenade in his tweet
Yeah dude saying he didn't know it was charity money to try and get himself off the hook like a fucking coward sure looked like falling in the grenade to me! Fuck off.

>>102692345
The guy who should have been the first male vshojo (sorry Kuro, I still think you're cool too)

>>102692354
Not that I'm defending anyone. But can you really blame twitterfags on anyone?
they will always exist and will swarm around shit the instant it happens if you have a presence on there.

>>102692386
MTD unironically poisoned M'lords water supply

>>102692430
>Mowtendoo tried to murder Aethel
There's the murder story that someone here wanted in this drama

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>>102692112
is anyone actually surprised that the vtuber with unicorn alt right fans wasn't welcomed into a left leaning org where male collabing was common?

If gunrun didn’t keep burning money on “the next big thing” and force out mowtendoo early would it have been sustainable

>>102692421
I do think Zen puts too much weight in the opinions of those subhumans, but, on the other hand, she also wasn't asking for much when she begged Vshojo to clarify the audition results were still pending after Ama debuted.

>>102690778
imagine unironically shilling firefox
bruh

>>102692495
I don't think VShojo actually gives a shit about politics, which sounds too retarded for even them
I do think it's hilarious that a Vtuber could get to the final around without the interviewer knowing they don't do male collabs.
This was in 2023 so it's not like they had no idea: staff were literally in these threads, they fucking knew what Keyfags were like. It's so fucking retarded

>>102692372
Silver's was the hardest to watch since she giga yapped just to barely say anything more then "gunrun made me cry :c"

>>102692526
People are saying on, but I would love to see how much money was coming in on average and how much it costed to keep the org operational with no additional fancy bullshit.

>>102692377
same

>>102692565
>t. silverschizo

>>102692559
>I don't think VShojo actually gives a shit about politics
They give a shit enough to how the public views them. Refer to the Hogwarts Legacy situation as an example.

>>102692565
ngl I got pretty mad on her behalf when I heard that because that's not at all what a company should do if their chuuba gets caught in the middle of culture war bullshit by just playing a mainstream video game

>>102692565
Knowing how she makes your schizophrenic dumb ass mad all the time, no wonder.

>>102692417
NTA but hasn't mouse donated proceeds from her subathon before?
Short of some new hire doing the accounting there's just no way that their spreadsheets didn't have a separate detail for her subathon.

>>102692495
>Shondo fans
>alt right
Stop being a clipfag

>>102692650
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>>102692632
bro enough with your boogie man.
i've never watched silver she just came off as a whining baby who cared more about farming sympathy then getting a point across.
sorry im not kissing her nuts this is just my first impression of her

>>102692777
From what I've seen from her fans on 4chan, Twitter, and YouTube, many of them are alt right.

>>102692565
>>102692818
>drops quite significant amount of new info and confirming some of the rrats
>s-she didn't say anything more t-than %here goes the part when retard gets hung up on words and twists them to fit his narrative%
I get that you're taking a great pleasure in being a thread lolcow, but come the fuck on

>>102692834
Tbf you shouldn't generalize a fanbase to a vocal minority

>>102692948
Bro I'm not even saying she didn't drop info, stop "twisting the narrative" I'm saying it was hard to watch her sound like kid who can't talk like an adult because they are too busy force crying. But don't let me raise your blood pressure dude.

>>102692495
>vtuber with
>unicorn
>alt right fans
she doesnt even like being called based nor her (twitch) fanbase (/shon/ is a sperg central, so they don't count) are unicorns (maybe some of them are, but that's minority of a minority)
take meds, asap

>>102693059
>nor her (twitch) fanbase (/shon/ is a sperg central, so they don't count) are unicorns (maybe some of them are, but that's minority of a minority)
take meds, asap

>>102693058
That's because you have a preconcieved notion. Also, you're not helping yourself with that "no you" that you just tried to pull off. I see right through you.

>>102693129
>no you
I concede your loss.

>>102693152
>preconcieved notion
assumption
>no you
assuming your right.
>I see right through you.
glasses

>>102693216
>assumption
wrong one
>assuming your right.
its "you're", and I am
>glasses
no need, my eyesight is perfect

>>102692834
i love fallenshadow and i am not like that

>>102692834
nothing wrong with that

>>102692818
>boogie man
way to out yourself esl, we saw your crashout couple of threads back

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>>102688217
Thanks a lot! This is just what I was looking for.