Simple as, remaining loyal to Nijisanji keeps paying dividends for her
I wonder how Pomu feels right now. Elira, Maririn and Rosemi are living the idol dream, meanwhile she is literally nothing now.
>>102687390 (OP)NijiGODS status? How we feeling?
>>102688854She feels proud of herself because she has been accepted by the ex holos and that is her group that will carry her to the promised land
>>102688854She has actual friends who like her instead of treacherous snakes ready to step on her throat
>>102688854>wants to be idol>leaves the company with a focus on idols for a western company that promises her an idol group but never delivers
>>102689589>Fagoon calls other snakes while still shilling the vshoujo spy everywhere KEK
>>102689698>Niji>IdolsAre you for real nigger? What the fuck aer you smoking?
>>102689698The main problem is that she went with a company like Vshojo. They have no demographic interested in idols at all, it wasnโt what people watched them for at all.
>>102689698>leaves the company with a focus on idols???? Nijisanji literally says they are not idols in their official documents. They're more like a shitty comedy club.
>>102689859Mint convinced herself that Vshojo with their epic JP connections was gonna give her an idol group with her at the center and they were gonna tour all over Japan. Well none of that ever happened
>>102689859They had a direct connection to Dearstage and got the 2view JPs record deals with UMJ.
>>102689941hows that working out for ol minto?
>>102690001She is the top 5 indie vtuber in EN
>>102687390 (OP)How did she win? NijiEN is literally the one branch that Vshojo's underhanded tactics managed to take out.
>>102690021you sure? or is she going for the hat trick and already secretly signed to another corpo that is gonna go wrong for her?
Reminder that there's still zero proof of any wrongdoing on Elira's part
>>102690051B-but their super successful btb wave that's getting 3-views right now!
>>102690099Yes. She has more viewers than all girls in NijiEN combined. She stacks up favorably to some holos even
Elira is masturbating with all this news.
>>102690252Elira is fantasizing that gay buttsex is some sort of touching, romantic, intimate thing, rather than the shitsmelling aids-ridden sloogefest that it really is
>>102690252Why? Vshojo's campaign to undermine her authority and destroy her branch was the only thing they successfully pulled off. She wasted all her energy and resources trying to drive out Selen when Selen was one of her few loyal soldiers.
>>102690159>Hypermogged by Meloco Cope
>>102689941It is admittedly fairly hard to find information on that now, considering Googleโs searches are now swamped with information about the companyโs drama instead of Mint managing to recording something with them.
But that seems to be something relatively recent. What I mean was that Vshojo when it was never really known for being โidol adjacentโ. The fans were like NijiEN in that they prided themselves on being different from something like Hololive, and that shows when you have Melody coming from a pornographic background, or the many raunchy/trashy humor coming from Vei or Nyanners. I mean they even gave fucking Henya the secret Ahegao toggle. If she wanted to do more idol activities, it still would have made a lot more sense to partner up with Cover instead of a company that never had an interested fanbase for it.
>>102690331Ah yes, the "EN" who never streams in English, whose superchats are entirely in yen, and whose ccv tanks dramatically when it doesn't show a very specific graph pattern.
>>102690408The Dearstage connection has been known about for ages, the NOVA girls getting signed to UMG was announced at this past AX.
>>102689823>sister still seething about GodkiSister...
>>102690523How is Mints record deal going? She had been under contract for a year, so surely its all recorded and just ready to print and also it should be separate from vshojo, no?
>>102690486Seriously though, 13 days ago, she had a 7h30min stream where the peak was fucking 3view with an even worse average. This does not happen to a creator who allegedly hits 11k a few times a month. It's just impossible.
There were no outages, no stream crashes, and it lasted over 7 hours, so you'd think SOMEONE would have raided.
>>102690635She isn't a singer
VShojo never promised Mint a record deal. Mint pitched that she should get one with her idol group and convinced herself she was getting a record deal. VShojo just said sure why not lol.
>>102690635Anon, mint was not part of NOVA, and I'd wait a bit before making such jokes. She's gotten quite a lot of offers since yesterday.
>>102690716OshiSpark records
>>102690635Why do you expect a record label signing to happen before even debuting? Kinda expectation to have on your part
>>102690711>Can I have everything I've ever wanted?!>...uh, I don't know, sure I guess.>Wow! This is the best deal ever!Oh, Mint...
>>102690568>>102690668>Mint hasn't seen a 100k CCV stream in her life Keep crying about bots while Mint and Dookie are constantly botted. It really helps the argument when Mint with a drama buff on her five year anniversary karaoke stream can only break 10k
>>102687390 (OP)Elira, stop posting on /vt/ and go work on yourself.
>>102690769This is essentially what happened lmao god she is so naive and dumb
>>102690711>Mint pitched that she should get one with her idol group and convinced herself she was getting a record deal.She didn't pitch that at all. All she pitched was to have an idol-focused gen. Kinda sad that you need to twist the facts in order to shit on her, just means you have no good shitposting points.
>>102690834Why did Mint pitch specifically towards VShojo JP?
It wouldnโt be because of the mythical connections and fast track for records and concerts, would it?
>>102690711Why would Mint think she would get a record deal in her July 2024 pitch, when the VshojoJP girls (NOVA) only got theirs in July 2025? Mint can't see a year into the future to know that that connection existed. Dumb shitposter
>>102690898Because she wants to have an idol-focused gen. That is not something suited to the EN side of things, but rather the JP side. Also because the JP side had an existing connection to Dearstage.
>>102690898He answers why Mint pitched right here
>>102689941
>>102690798>100k streamAnon... what are you even implying here? That Elira is somehow going to reach a 100k ccv solo stream? Hell, last year when cloudflare went offline (killing most bots), they couldn't even reach that number with fucking Koshien.
Or are you still chasing that dream of NijiEN ever performing in a theater full of people who understand them?
>>102690798NijiEN is constantly botted, actually
>>102690769mint got greedy and got her hand caught in the cookie jar
>>102690904Genius, they had staff members directly connected to them, and they DID connect her, though unfortunately, it seems like everything fell through.
However, she has her foot in the door now and the talents directly like her. It's absolutely not out of the question to continue the process.
>>102691023>never got paid>"got greedy"
>>102691038Yeah there's a hope that things might be salvageable, but what I'm saying is that she didn't propose the group knowing/expecting there to be a record deal. The only "connection" existing at the time was the one with Dearstage. UMG happened a year later, waaaay after Mint made her proposal.
>>102691046>pitches that she is going to get all the best stuff ever from an idol group focused around her to using dearstage to get recording contracts>vshojo knowing these are laughable demands they cant deliver say sure why not they arenโt gonna look a gift horse in the mouthyes, greed. she wanted it all, and got nothing instead.
>>102691115If she didnt think she was getting a record deal, then why didnt she pitch to Vshojo en?
Elira, stop posting on boards and go clean the yacht.
>>102691188You're not getting paid anymore, vshoujo shill. You can stop now
>>102691158Because VshojoJP is the branch that had a connection to an idol company (Dearstage). That isn't a record deal, that's just an idol company connection
>>102691134bless Mintos heart
>>102691134>More things she never said.If you need to resort to lying, you've lost.
The only EN livers making "dividends" in any sense of the word are Scarle and Aia, and to a lesser extent the BTB boys
Unless any of the other livers are making literal dividends by having company stocks - which the company would make them buy with their own money, complete with the whole "must purchase shares with funds drawn from a financial institution based in Japan" business, and especially the "stocks can only be purchased or sold in blocks of 100 shares, so one block of shares would have cost 245,100 yen (CA$ 2,277.96) on the day after picrel was published" part
>>102691114That's not bots. Hell, I can tell you exactly what happened there. That's when Nimi raided the stream, idiot.
Elira did idol concerts to a sold out arena in Japan
Mint just KWABd out of her second corpo and still has no idol concerts
They are not the same
>>102690329>Vshoujo wonYes, dying because of not making any money while NijiEN is still raking in millions a month sure is winning
>>102687390 (OP)imagine only being known for being completely and utterly BTFO by a 300-pound aspie femcel, surprised elira hasn't jumped off the shanghai tower yet
>>102691345To an audience that didn't understand her. Meanwhile, how did Nijisanji ENGLISH do when they had their ENGLISH concert at AX?
>>102691345Mint performed in Fantastic Reality earlier this month.
>>102691322>Wants to prove that Mint's CCV isn't actually her CCV I accept your concession
>>102691369Vshojo definitely lost but that doesn't mean Elira or NijiEN won. It was a double KO.
Hololive won, Phase Connect won, Dokibird won, everyone who stayed out of this mess won. NijiEN and Elira lost just like Vshojo.
>>102691389there were 300 people there lmao wow what a star
>>102691345>idol concertsStrange idol concert filled with crotch thrusting men
>>102687390 (OP)What's her CCV these days?
>>102691389literally what in the fuck is that? never heard of it. sounds like some Mickey Mouse small corpo run concert.
>>102691421They sold out, so over 800. Don't forget FantomeThief too, which was 2000.
>>102691392And each individual EN organ's is? Do you really want to see pre-raid numbers for them? I can guarantee you don't want to see what a nijisanji organ can pull with its own power.
>>102687390 (OP)As it should be. It was bullshit and a travesty what all the fagoons put her through, it brings me immense joy to see her continuing to happily stream and be successful while so many wretched cunts fail. Ewiwa love!
>>102691457cause it was. it was a tiny venue.
>>102691389>Comparing a guest appearance and doing a single song for fucking vshoujo to actually doing multiple idol concerts and singing with vocaloidsDesperation. No wonder Mint left the convention crying
>>102691457A concert full of real people chanting Mint's name because they knew who she was.
>>102691471FantomeThief was not an idol concert that shit was glorified vr. If you think that was an idol concert, then I have a VshojoJp idol group and record contract to offer you.
>>102691421There are actual JP idols who perform to double-digit crowds. Doesn't make them any less of an idol.
>>102689846>>102689904Didn't Sayu say you had to produce a song as one of your debut requirements?
>>102691415>Phase won That explains it. Phasecucks are getting really uppity for being less than a percent
>>102691512Mint performed in more concerts at AX alone than Elira has all year.
Elira's probably gonna be in the bangkok leg of SitR this october or november, capacity 5k if they get the fashion island venue as rumored.
>>102691471>Still pretending that concert sold out when there were visible empty seats and Doki had to make her next concert free KEKAROO
>>102691549No because TTT didn't even get one. They had two utaites and instead Niji sent enna to half ass a tune
>>102691561always the guest, never the star.
career bridesmaid
meanwhile Elira was the star in front of 8,000 sold out in the native grand nippon
>>102691526On what grounds was it not an idol concert? They were singing in 3D with choreographed dances.
>>102691580Fantastic Reality didn't have seats, retard
>>102691595Then why didn't any of them know her song name? If she was the star, they should know THAT much, right?
>>102691605Ah yes the dances where they wiggled their arms in a windmill motion in vr.
>>1026915958000 people who didn't even know the name of her song LMAO!
>>102691656...Did you even watch nijien's choreography or do I need to post the sex offender shuffle again?
>>102691646>venue so small they couldnt even afford seatsGrim
>>102690798>crying about others botting>while praising nijiENholy fuck the jokes write themselves!
No offense, but Fantastic Reality and FantomeThief looked like dogwater most chuubas have home 3d that is better
>>102691697Who sits on their asses during a concert? Get up off your ass fatty, and dance to the music
>>102691646First off, that's grim. Second off, I was clearly talking about Doki's flop concerts
mint had a mental breakdown stream around the time this happen kek
>>102691761Maybe Hololive, but certainly not Nijisanji
>>102691561Not only is that wrong but Mint couldn't stop crying after Overture was announced
>>102691690Elira doesnt make being a wannabe idol her entire personality like Mint. She is so good she gets the opportunities anyway and dances circles around Mint now. I thought Mint was supposed to be some singer dancer supreme? What happened to that?
I feel bad for Mint, she never antagonized anyone and only tried to find someone to invest in her idol dream, but unfortunately it may never come to be.
>>102691805Mint's grandmother died the day prior
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1894043939553886602
>>102691855Just apply to HoloEN! She can probably get in this time.
>>102691834well you see what had happened was the tracking for fantastic reality was not great, and the 3D for dokimint was live 3D so she was tired, and for the phase show she was in a chibi and couldnt move
>>102691834>>102691832>>102691805Funny. You gonna even pretend to have a source? Actually, are you going to ignore the breakdown Elira had on stream when her EN concert was CANCELED?
>>102691798How strange you mention flop concerts when again, Niji couldn't get enough people to even HAVE one
>>102691834>she is so good she gets themkissing the ass of management and licking their taints to the point that they let you and your clique do whatever you want while giving you all the opportunities you want, does not make you 'good'
>>102691915If Moe and the VN twins can get in, then she definitely could at this point
>>102691915Unless she can bring Doki with her, that ain't happening.
>>102691984Elira was heartbroken when the concert was canceled this is true, but she didnt quit like a lesser weaker fairy did when things didnt go her way a year earlier.
For that, Eliras patience and good attitude was rewarded with a huge concert in Japan. She got to live an idols dream with the branch she started from day 1
>>102692020She wasn't bringing Doki to Vshojo.
>>102691915>>102692001No that ship sailed as soon as she debuted in Niji. After the drama from Luna joining Hololive, the two companies agreed to not hire each other's ex-talents.
>>102692048Vshojo wasnt real, anon. She never even got a paycheck from them. They said yes cause a big indie offered herself to them
>>102690769She saw that Henya seemingly got everything she wanted upon joining VShojo, and thought that the she could have the same as well.
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>>102691825>Pomu bitching about her wings >Meanwhile if she just waited another month this could have been herNo wonder she broke down crying yesterday lmao
>>102689408>ex holoswho about to get married and have babies and stop streaming.
>>102692048Vshojo wouldn't have blocked her from collaborating with Doki. Holo clearly would.
>>102692046>in Japan>squeezed in between two JP concerts with halfthe JP audience pissed they stole a slot from JP
>>102692107Pomu waited a year and nothing got fixed.
>>102691984>Bringing up a concert that was cancelled a week before it even happened >Not counting the actual one they had right afterAR live had over 25,000 pay to watch it btw. Doki couldn't fill a venue of less than a thousand
>>102692142The only way Mint will get to expierence a concert in Japan is if she buys ticket to see someone else do it
Elira has lived it and done it, Mint wishes she could
>>102692188Oh, this is going to be funny. Just like how Doki will never compete in a Japanese tournament or connect with JP pros/vtubers?
>>102692147Nothing got fixed? But the wings aren't clipping anymore and people are flying now. It seems like it got fixed AND improved. Shame she couldn't simply wait a little more then got poached by vshoujo. What a smart decision
>>102692242Even if she does it one day, Elira did it first. Dont you forget it, cause I wont let you
WHY DID YOU LEAVE YOU FUCKING IDIOT
YOU WERE ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED VTUBER IN THE SCENE
YOU SPEARHEADED A COMPANY THAT PEOPLE CONSIDERED AS A RIVAL TO HOLOLIVE
YOU HAD DOZENS OF COWORKERS THAT LOOKED UP TO YOU
PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU WERE THE SOUL OF NIJIEN
AND YOU THREW IT ALL AWAY FOR WHAT?
WHAT DID YOU GET?
>>102692245The wings in this gif
>>102691825 were how her wings behaved after a year of her waiting. Doesn't look "fixed" to me.
>>102692297>WHAT DID YOU GET?EN5.
>>102692242Are you talking about that apex tournament where she flopped, bullied Axel, threw the last round then said it was okay because the coach took her side then went on a week long menhera break?
>>102687390 (OP)Finana shares a split of what Elira makes via niji contract. She's the real winner
>>102692297>PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU WERE THE SOUL OF NIJIENNot management apparently, considering how they treated her for years.
>>102692297A Dokibird concert, an ANYC concert, an AX concert, a playbutton, new freinds that love her
>>102692053That's a bummer, she did everything right but now she has nowhere to go.
>>102692307And the wings in the picture I sent are making people fly and they aren't clipping. Elu even has fairy wings, they looked fixed to me
What a shame. They were preparing all this for Pomu and she let herself get poached so they gave her wings to Elu instead. Hope she doesn't cry over it or anything
>>102692183>watch itIn person, right? What? The concert venue was canceled due to a lack of interest?
Also, for the ax "concert" they had, youean this on the main nijisanji en channel? Why couldn't the combined might of the nijigirls match up to a fan recording of Mint and Doki's concert? I actually didn't know about this one until now, myself. What a fucking embarrassment.
>>102692297>YOU WERE ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED VTUBER IN THE SCENESo was Selen, but she was considered expendable because mr. accelerate man thought pandering to china was more profitable
>>102692359She could've just, well, not join Nijisanji and waited for HoloEN Gen 3 auditions
>>102692396Weird how Elu got wings that didn't clip after 1 month, but Pomu still had wings that clipped after 1 year. Kinda sounds like management didn't care about Pomu.
>>102691834>Elira doesnt make being a wannabe idol her entire personalityHoly fucking goalpost shift
>>102692348>Dokibird concert,Pftttt
>Phase concert that even Pippa said was a flopHeheheheheh
>Free admission Doki concert at AX that still nobody showed up toHAHAHAHAHA
>>102692438Mint can thank Dooby and Doki for drawing the house. She is the runt of that trio
>>102692318No? Im talking about the multiple japanese events DOKIBIRD was personally invited to. The ones where she was the only foreign invitation. Not to mention her own tournament, which brought in several japanese pros and vtubers. She even had participants from VSPOjp and Neo-Porte, with many of them acknowledging it as the most fun they've ever had at an apex event.
>>102692438>Why couldn't the combined might of the nijigirls match up to a fan recording of Mint and Doki's concert?Dooby "combined" with them too and has brought most of those views.
>>102692297Because Elira was the middle-management and hoarded most deals and sponsorships to herself.
Sisters still can't explain that fact. She was way behind Pomu and Selen in terms of every stat and they kept getting shafted instead.
>>102692549Dooby couldn't sell out her concert with Nimi in a smaller venue than FantomeThief, so I dunno about that one chief.
>>102692264Oh boy, and Mint performed first in front of a paying audience outside of japan. One that actually shouts her name. That is something Elira and the other girls will likely never do.
>>102692297And what would have happened? They would have her spearhead the fucking black stream instead of Elira. Go fuck yourself.
>>102692496Mint has done an idol concert on the ANYC big stage. The same stage Suisei made her American debut on. What American 3D lives has elira done again?
>>102692438>The concert venue was canceled due to a lack of interestNone, keep trying, fagoon
>youean this on the main nijisanji en channel?ESL
>Cherry picks illegal recording YouTube video of a concert with ex Holos while ignoring this oneKEK
>>102692611Nobody in Japan knows who Mint is.
>>102692445Mint was somewhat popular before her Niji arc, but nowhere near she'd be now if she didn't join. If Niji didn't fuck things over for her she would've built her idol dream there.
>>102692672Nobody in Japan knows the name of Elira's song KEK
>>102692501>>102692588If you honestly believe people specifically watched that VOD to her Doki's raspy voice singing then you're delusional.
>>102692672Nobody knows Elira either, lmao
>>102692548And none are Vsaikyo which she always talked about wanting to participate in. Her last real tournament ended with her in last place while she bullied her teammates and threw the game. Now that's embarrassing
Ahh I see we're locked into the Mint phase of the "Sisters shitting on Ex-Niji's cycle" for a little while.
>>102692462It's almost like they were working on the fix for a long time so they could make people fly. Kinda sounds like Pomu was a diva that took 3D staff for granted. Hope she enjoys her VR chat model though
>>102692742So what you're saying is that most of those views can be attributed to Mint? Doesn't look good for the Niji girls LOL
>>102692588FantomeThief never sold out, you retard. You can literally see aisles of empty seats in the back
>>102692800Pomu waited 1 year for the fix and never got it. Elu waited for 1 month and got the fix. Kinda sounds like management had no intention of fixing Pomu's model.
>>102692660>again ignoring the canceled concert on American soilAnon, that second one is a typo. I'm afraid for you if you can't tell the difference.
And lastly... illegal? lol, they encouraged it. Hell, it was even on the pre-concert scroll. This ain't Japan.
>>102692692Okay? That doesn't change the fact she shouldn't of fucking joined
/jp/'s been warning you /vt/ zoomers that Nijisanji is a black company well before the EN division was a thing
I don't feel any sympathy to those who joined it out of desperation, Mint knew what the price she had to pay
Idol culture isn't popular in the west, her only shot was to join HoloEN or bust, there was no alternate route
>>102692731>Retarded fagoon is the kind of person to hear a crowd chant on a TV than think because it's not ear rape that the crowd hates the performers >This proves he doesn't know how sound proofing and mics workKEK
>>102692840I never said it did. FantomeThief had a bigger venue with more seats. Still sold more than VV though.
>>102692852>idol culture isnt popular in the west Be the change then, Mint. Bring it to America instead of trying to take shortcuts with vshojo JP like you intended
>>102692888Delusional fagoon thinks Doki and Mint are more popular than Nimi and Dooby. Can't wait for the schizo posts when Saba has her first concert
>>102692917She was working with VshojoJP to bring it to America, stupid
>>102692755Anon, forget vsaikyo, she got the organizing company for vsaikyo having fun in HER event. I'm sure you can see how that opens up communications.
>>102688854>meanwhile she is literally nothing now.She's one of the best EN vutubers and is doing it as an independent talent.
>>102692958>no argumentI accept your concession :)
>>102692850>Japanese text in an American concert Meanwhile mintfags insist that she prefers performing to a hundred people in the US instead of thousands in Japan
>>102692974Mint has been an independent talent for 2 days
>>102692940Ticket sales speak for themselves. Sorry not sorry your narrative backfired on you.
>>102692986Blindanon... there's English text in that picture.
>>102692917>Idol culture>In 2025 western society>Where every kid looks up to ebonic culturekek
>>102693007The ticket sales that Doki never revealed? It's funny how you insist it did so good meanwhile Doki made her last concert free and said she lost thousands of dollars doing the concerts
>>102692986Anon, the JP text was for the JPs who flew across the world to see her...
>>102693025>>102693041English on the bottom. Like it's the secondary language. In the USA. LMAO
>>102692986>"why is there Japanese text at an idol concert?"A complete mystery!
>>102692970Don't tell me to forget Vsaikyo. Doki is still trying to recreate Vsaikyo in the EN sphere and keeps on flopping while doing it because they won't let her back in
She's the one that should forget about Vsaikyo
>>102693027Put the groundwork in, Mint. How many groups are setting up concerts trying to bring it to America? HoloLive, Phase, v4m, OshiSpark, Niji, kawaii rip. Mint is just a guest at these things, she isnt the one putting the work in bringing 3D concerts to America
>>102693091>Idol concert >Singing Limp Bizkit and LilyPichu songs What a fucking joke
>>102693038The concert was literally just a glorified ad and fanservice for her fans, and in the process along with allowing her friends to perform on American soil, got her in touch with the biggest esports organization in China, as well as a deal allowing her to use them for her personal 3D projects moving forwards.
Not to mention the actual bigwigs present for the concert who approached her after it when they saw the capabilities of this one single girl.
>>102693102Look at your list. Do you see any indie vtubers in your list? No, those are all corpos. Individual indie vtubers do not have the connections nor resources to set up a concert by themselves. Now you know why she wanted to work with Vshojo.
>>102692842>Pomu leaves while they were working on fixing the technology. Gets nothing, cries >Elu patiently waits for the technology, doesn't complain and gets to fly in front of thousands of people. WinsMint is an embarrassment of an oshi. Doki is more one though, I'll admit
>>102692348>Dokibirdbeggars cant be choosers
>>102693099Don't be surprised when you see her name in the credits at the next one or Hal's name in hers.
>>102693038>said she lost thousands of dollars doing the concertsIsn't she always saying that?
>>102693171>Pomu waits patiently for 1 year to get her wings fixed. They don't get fixed, and in the mean time Niji decides to not give her any merch, deny her record label deal, and reject her invite to be in Kiara's birthday 3D>Elu waits 1 month (while still being able to use her 3D in the mean time) and her wings get fixedSounds like management just didn't like Pomu, and no amount of "waiting patiently" was going to fix things.
>>102692496Note how you ignored the play button
>>102693155>Bragging about an ad that cost her thousands of dollars even though she revealed she lives like a homeless slobFagoon...
>Bragging about Doki selling out to China and pretending like them using her for advertisement is a good thing LMAO
>BigwigsLike gunrun, right? Kek
>>102693234Also, the sister is lying her ass off. It didn't cost thousands-It cost tens of thousands, and the next one will be even bigger.
>>102693233>Doki is as important as Shibuya HalTHE ULTIMATE COPE
>>102693243>"Waits patiently">Is actually constantly bitching>"Deny record label deal">Which she said was for a good reason >"Deny her invite to a 3D">After she said she didn't want her 3D until it was fixed Meanwhile you completely made up Elu having to wait only a month! Try again
>>102689823>the vshoujo spybut enough about sayu
Ok sis, be honest. Who's paying you, and how much?
>>102693285You're seriously not even making sense anymore. China loves Doki, and she's very well connected with the streaming scene there.
Also, I'm not sure how you got the idea that they need Doki for advertising. They control around 80% of the esports events in the country. They aren't just renting out their studios willy nilly. Doki knew some people that got her in touch, and she pays them for it.
And no, as in actual people at AX representing companies or their products. Companies like Goodsmile, for example. When is Elira's nendoroid coming out? Doki's ships next month.
>>102693422>Fagoon pretending like Mint wasn't secretly a vshoujo spy Still? She literally was crying over it yesterday. Give it up, man
>>102693322Your parents and education failed you if that's what tou took away from my words.
>>102693427>China loves DokiRich coming from the fanbase that's racist against the Chinese
>Well connected in ChinaInsane cope
>Doki is paying to advertise themHoly shit, she's retarded
>Actual people that I swear were therekek, when is Doki's NBA collab happening btw?
>>102693535Doki doesn't suddenly lose her merch or esports connections in China because you don't like it. I don't know where you got the idea that dragoons were racist, either.
And again, she's not advertising them. They're not selling their services. Just like how gamersupps is her personal distributor, but they aren't offering the services to others all willy nilly.
>>102693413>Is actually constantly bitchingAsking for updates != bitching about it
>Which she said was for a good reasonNo, go back and listen. She said she understood the reason - doesn't mean it was a good reason or that she agreed with it.
>After she said she didn't want her 3D until it was fixedShe didn't say that nor is that the case, considering she used her 3D at AX and at NijiFes.
>>102693451You're awfully defensive today sis, did something happen? Are you on the run?
>>102693422vkek, your shit corpo just imploded and you won't get any more shill money, just give up and go away
>>102693616>I don't know where you got the idea that dragoons were racist, either.Maybe the racist Nijisanji cartoons that Doki had to call you retards out on?
>she's not advertising themAnd John Cena wasn't either when he sang that song in Chinese about ice cream, right? She's advertising them
>>102693655>Ennaschizo larping as a fagoonGet your brown ass back in your generals
>>102693121Limp Bizkit is fucking kino, shut the hell up
>>102693619>You don't understand. I'm not hounding you for your money! I'm just constantly asking you for updates if you have any money I could borrowThat seems like a scenario you're used to
>She said she understood the reasonI know English isn't your first language but if someone says that something is understandable then that means that there's a good line of logic for it
>She didn't say thatShe said she didn't want to see it until it got fixed. Them giving it to her on special occasions doesn't change that
>>102693712>racist nijisanji cartoonsYeah, the ones the dragoons were disgusted by and also hounded the guy for before Doki even said anything. Hell, if you want examples, go check the archives and see how they devoured anyone posting the animation, even after he changed it.
And man, I don't know how you compred John Cena being paid to talk about china to Doki using a friend's 3d studio that isn't actively seeking new clients.
>>102693832>Hey, have you added the toggle to turn off my wings yet? The one that would take literal seconds in Blender to accomplish? No? Why? You fixed Elira's very quickly. Alright, I'll check in next month
>>102693832>That seems like a scenario you're used toWhere did you get money from any of this? She wanted to know how things were progressing with the updates. You know, like what your boss does when you're working on a project at work.
>I know English isn't your first language but if someone says that something is understandable then that means that there's a good line of logic for itNo that doesn't mean that at all. What if the reason was because management wanted to focus on Noctyx? She understands that that is their reason, but doesn't mean that is a good reason to turn down a record label deal, or that she agrees with their reason.
>She said she didn't want to see it until it got fixed. Them giving it to her on special occasions doesn't change thatShe never said that. And Kiara's Birthday 3D would be a special occasion that would warrant them letting her use it, but instead they denied it.
>>102693683>>102693738>The FamElira thinks she can use the corpse of the vshilljos to hide
>>102693919>the ones the dragoons were disgusted by and also hounded the guy for before Doki even said anythingYou were literally on this site spamming revenge porn and racist depictions of Nijisanji members for months. What are you talking about?
>Doki using a friend's 3d studio that isn't actively seeking new clients.Weren't you just bragging about well connected she is in China? Is she a CCP shill or not? Make up your mind
>>102687390 (OP)She turned the entirety of EN into negligible and is one of the biggest laughing stocks in vtuber history thanks to the black stream.
>>102693978>Fagoon thinks he's a better 3D modeler than the actual professionalskek
>>102693987>I don't understand what a metaphor isESL
>I don't understand that something being "understandable" means that it is a logical and acceptable reason ESL
>She didn't say that even though she did. And they should have let her use the model everyone was scrambling to fix because of Pomu whining about how ugly it wasJust retarded diva shit
>>102694128>I don't understand what a metaphor isA metaphor that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
>I don't understand that something being "understandable" means that it is a logical and acceptable reasonUnderstanding someone's reason to kill someone doesn't mean that killing someone is logical or acceptable.
>She didn't say that even though she did. She never did. Give a timestamp. You can't.
>And they should have let her use the model everyone was scrambling to fix because of Pomu whining about how ugly it wasIf the model was OK to use at AX in July, there is no reason why it wouldn't be OK to use for Kiara's birthday 3D recording in November.
Nijisanji's content is legitimately terrible man. It's painful to watch. I don't understand who can enjoy this stuff.
The social life of NijiEN is centered around a group of homobaiting dudes, who are involved in 100% of the collabs, all the projects. The girls are constantly talking about them and hyping them up like they're the main show.
Their content is disgusting. Homobaiting, sexbaiting, toilet humor. Who enjoys this? Who his this for?? I think only 1 or 2 of the girls insulated themselves from it. Most of them actively flirt with the guys and try to get in their pants, imagine if that was your oshi doing that?
I don't understand what this thing called NijiEN is supposed to be. It's like some westerners who didn't understand Nijisanji interpreted it to mean "girlpower, girlboos, feminism, fuck parasocial incels...etc". Elira is particularly terrible making everything about her fujo ships. It's "mildly annoying" at best, and "repulsive" at worst.
Look at any other vtuber group you see a bevy of cute laughing girls, and it's like a breath of fresh air. NijiEN is a dark and smelly corridor filled with dirty laundry. No thanks.
>>102694011Wha. You know she's from Hong Kong, right? And yes, the goons were actively discouraging and disowning those spamming racist shit.
I'll admit the elira porn was hot, though I saw MUCH more unflattering images being spammed of Doki being brutally murdered, raped, beaten, hanging, etc. Compared to the occasional repost of the single blacked Elira picture, I don't know how you could be ignorant to those.
>>102694128Anon, every professional has commented on the fix. You just delete a few triangles, and you're done. Hell, people made fan models with that exact fix, and Niji noticed and banned her from using them because it made theirs look dogshit ny comparison.
>>102694298>A metaphor that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.Constantly asking is bitching
>ESL doesn't know understandable and logical are synonyms Learn English
>Comparing a one off song at a convention to a collaboration with a friendly competitor Retard
>>102694370Retards online with no worthwhile credentials aren't professionals. Not everyone who agrees with you is a professional
>>102694313>Fagoons were disavowing the racism by spamming racist Vox drawings for months. You don't understand >I admit I jacked off to Elira being raped and battered in multiple drawings. But you spammed the board way more!Delusional cuck
>>102694455Anon, they literally MADE models for her to use. She used them exactly once, and they were perfect.
>>102694512>Comparing VR chat models to 3D models from working professionals Desperation
>>102694506lol
>if I keep saying this lie, everyone will believe me eventually! Remember when you were just trying to call doki and mint failures before getting btfo on every single point?
>>102694049>Selen waits until the last second to get her Christmas video checked for perms on Christmas Eve >Staff are already on Christmas break >Manager proceeds to work through Christmas to try getting it checked for her >Selen posts it anyways >Manager takes it down and simply says to wait until it gets checked. Selen wasn't punished for this>She goes on her Twitter and tells people to repost it everywhere while blaming management. Breaking the contract >She gets suspended >The other members don't immediately side with her over her manager >Anheroes over itKWAB
>>102694417>Constantly asking is bitchingNo it's not lmao
>ESL doesn't know understandable and logical are synonymsUnderstanding why someone would want to kill someone else does not mean that killing someone is logical or acceptable.
>Comparing a one off song at a convention to a collaboration with a friendly competitorThey did 3 or 4 songs at the convention, while she would only have to do 1 song at Kiara's Birthday 3D.
>>102694654Nijifes was also on Christmas that year, so depending on the manager they might have been busy with that too.
>>102694558Mint quite literally cried over being a failure multiple times and Doki was booted out of her family for being one
>>102694778>Mint quite literally cried over being a failure multiple timesThat's just her natural state. She was like that as Pomu while in Niji, and as Mint even before Niji. Girl's got terrible self-confidence issues.
>>102694654That's cool and all, but it doesn't take away from the fact that she's standing strong while nijien is just taking whatever scraps they can from JP, as the western audience no longer accepts them.
>>102694778That's just how Mint is. And it's really hard to call either failures when they were able to throw thousands of dollars around for a slap fight.
>>102694997>it's really hard to call either failures when they were able to throw thousands of dollars around for a slap fight.Fucking Kenji was able to donate just as much as them. You're retarded for trying to use that as a metric of wealth
>>102695112You do know Kenji is pretty big, right? He's subhuman filth, but people apparently like that
>>102688854I wonder how they survive, their viewership and superchats are abysmal.
>>102695189>Implying Kenji is as successful as Doki or MintYikes
>>102690159>>102690568>deletedHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MINTSHART GOT MOGGED
>>102688854KWABOTY
No idol
No stage
No real friends
No cock
No husband
Everyone who ever worked at vpoacho deserves this karma and more.
>>102692142>with halfthe JP audience pissed they stole a slot from JPActually, during the poll among JP viewers, EN's concert was the second best out of 5 Niji total concerts during the event, with like 98% of people liking it, only barely beaten by Salome's one.
>>102696833Keep in mind, she cried over not being in the NijiEN discord anymore. She torched her career for a shadow corporation that didn't even let her debut for a year while lying about being indie
The true KWABOTY
>>102697575>needing to resort to lies to shit on someoneSad!
>>102697629>Being indie, I just feel so lonely. I guess for her, it's different. But I don't have a discord of friends that I can reach out to anymore
>>102697767>Source stream: a year ago>No mention of NijiEN>She didn't actually say "anymore"
>>102697828>No mention of NijiEN Anymore corporate discords she left?
>>102697858After this week?
Vpoacho
HoloEN
Jackie Chan Fandom
>>102697485i don't really see what that's supposed to prove if it's people so deranged they bought a ticket to watch enshit in the first place
it's more surprising it didn't rank first
>>102695256Elira has the management's cut of every nijiEN's earnings. the rest of them are fucked tho
>>102697858Has nothing to do with corporate discords. She's saying she doesn't have any group she can reach out to. Doesn't mean she misses the NijiEN discord.
And again, this was a year ago. She's got plenty of discord friend groups now.
>>102690051Honestly, NijiEN took themselves out. Vshojo did nothing to make that happen
>>102698025>Referring to Kiara being a corpo vtuber while she's "indie">"NOTHING ABOUT CORPORATIONS HERE FOLKS"Fucking retard
>She's saying she doesn't have any group she can reach out to.That only a corporate vtuber would have access to? Like a corpo discord? Such as the one she had in Niji?
>She's got plenty of discord friend groups now.And she's still crying about being lonely and forgotten
>>102698050It was a combination of things. The two things that killed the branch were Pomu leaving and Selen being forced out.
Pomu and Zaion were both sabotaging NijiEN behind the scenes in favor of Vshojo. Clearly Vshojo's plan was somewhat successful given how many ex-Nijis they were able to poach. The other half was Elira and her cronies going out of their way to target Selen even though Selen was 100% loyal to the company. NijiEN could've held on even with the defections to Vshojo if they didn't kill Selen. But Elira's ego had to be appeased.
>>102698126The fuck are you getting at? "A discord of friends" doesn't mean a corporate discord. It just means having a discord with friends.
>>102698050Several ex nijis literally admitted to actively poaching and eroding nijien from the inside and being encouraged to shit on the ex company to make the vpoacho ponzi scheme look better.
There are like 2 graduations that weren't a direct consequence of your cancerous scam company slimy hands.
You will never get paid for spamming your fake hate campaign here or anywhere else.
>>102698247>Pomu and Zaion were both sabotaging NijiEN behind the scenes in favor of Vshojo.You mean Kyo, not Pomu.
>>102698247>The 3 page list for Zaion's termination was to send a message to the Vshojo poachersImagining this would be funny and them doing it anyways was just calling NijiEN's bluff.
I wonder if Mint will beg Tazumi on her knees to let her back in, will he be merciful and allows it?
>>102698303>There are like 2 graduations that weren't a direct consequence of your cancerous scam company slimy handsYugo
Pomu
Hex
Ike
Fulgur
Kotoka
Hex
Kunai
Vivi
Not considering the terminated livers and Aster's "separation" it's at least 9 people unconnected to Vshojo in any meaningful way prior, during and in most cases after their graduation. And before you start screaming about it no, Mint pitching an idea TO vshojo months after graduating is not poaching, no matter how you like to repeat this lie. Pathetic attempt at rewriting history.
>>102687390 (OP)Great ragebait OP, I respect the hustle
>>102698941That was quite nice of you to sum up everything you just wrote in your last sentence.
>>102687390 (OP)If you're going to keep being a Nijifag then I'm going to keep saying Mumei has real autism.
>>102698899Tazumi is a merciful man. He'll even let her fly. She just has to write "I will not be a traitor" a hundred times on the chalkboard
>>102698899After how NijiEN management treated her? Nah
>>102698941>Desperately pretending Pomu wasn't poached despite Kyo saying soKek
>HexWho quit because he bought the VPoachjo grift and immediately applied there after graduating
>IkeHarassed off the internet as a consequence of Vshojo dramafagging
>FulgurUnclear if he was poached or not
>Kotoka Harassed off the internet as a consequence of Vshojo dramafagging
>Hex twice You may be retarded
>Kunai, ViviBoth poached by the second coming of Vshojo. Face the facts, faggot. VPoachjo was behind the hate campaign and even bought dramafags like False to do it
>>102699420Kyo was referring to Mika, who graduated around the same time and actually did get poached into Vshojo.
>>102699420>despite Kyo saying soHe literally didn't
>>102595237>Face the factsGolden after not stating a single verifiable fact KEK
>>102691114Nigger, thats just a raid
Nijiniggers are so braindead, poor, and subhuman that they think owning a car is a flex
>>102699420>>Kotoka>Harassed off the internet as a consequence of Vshojo dramafaggingI'd say that holoniggers are more at fault here. But, but be fair, they heavily overlap with vshojokeks, so its basically the same shit.
>>102699513>>102699560>This was around the same time they stopped talking to meMichi did not stop talking to Quinn, they collabed countless times. Mint has not talked to Quinn a single time after she came back. It's obviously Pomu
>>102699420>Kotoka >Harassed off the internet as a consequence of Vshojo dramafaggingSo thats it? We're just rewriting history now?
I really wonder if those shills or just bots at this point.
All those concert screenshots taken from very sharp angles, pretending like NijiEN didnt flop so hard they couldnt fill 10% of the venue and had their concert cancelled, 60-90% CCV drop for their talents, 40% drop in corporate income from branch...
Im still willing to say it shills, but maybe bots mixed into it.
>>102699912>Vshojobot pretending like having numbers at all doesn't immediately mean NijiEN won LMAO
>>102699912The collapse of Vshojo gave the Niji shills an inch of breathing room and now they're trying to blame all their failures on Vshojo poaching. Of course, this does nothing to explain the event that killed NijiEN and that's the black stream along with the general treatment of Selen.
>102699948This one might be a bot for example because the sentence doesn't even relate to anything I wrote and pulls random prompt out of nowhere because it doesnt know how to respond
>>102699645Indians and SEAnigs very often cannot afford even a cheapest car
>>102699977This type of rhetoric really starts reeking of shill talking points or AI prompts
>>102699820>>This was around the same time they stopped talking to meWatch his video for context. "They" is referring to Vshojo and when they stopped talking to Quinn.
I really want to see them try and twist that Black Stream and somehow make it Vshojo's fault. Or better yet, how picrel was totally a inside job from Vshojo.
>>102699912>Niji didn't implode how dramanigs predicted. VShojo did>Niji doesn't need to heavily bot their streams in order to shamefully hide 3views. Holo does
>>102699977>general treatment of Selen.True, they should have fired her the first time she tried feeding management to her rabid fanbase
>>102700230I don't know, I think the fault lies with NijiEN for being so mismanaged.
>102700213
See? Here, right here. Another out of nowhere Vshojo mention. Its fucking bot prompts. Even most dumbass paid shill would fucking realize its too fucking random and out of place... right?
This plus spinning already known facts 180 degrees (Niji botting their streams is just well known fact)
>>102700306True, good management would have booted her instead of sending multiple managers to try their hand at dealing with the BPD diva
>>102700247>VPoachjo projector rormao, and AI slop on top of it? Your company just went under. Give up
>>102700373Good management would've done what they could to support their most valuable asset instead of tossing her aside for a replaceable talent like Elira.
Especially after losing their second most valuable asset when Pomu graduated. The failure to properly recognize value is another sign of a poorly run organization.
>>102700321>N-no y-youLmao, pathetic
>>102700449>most valuable>second most valuable*least
>>102700449>Selen >Pomu >Most valuable assetLMAO, they never even got past a million in channel revenue. Good on you though for blatantly admitting you're a fagoon that treats Mint as an extra though
>>102700630You can believe whatever you want. Anycolor is still a black company and NijiEN's current position(third behind Phase Connect if we're being generous) is largely a result of their own shortcomings.
You do know that Vshojo hated Hololive the most and smeared them way harder than NijiEN along with also trying to poach their members, right? The only difference is that it didn't work. I wonder why that is.
>>102700403vshojo and niji do it
we've known for years
>>102700840>The only difference is that it didn't work. I wonder why that is.That's a good fucking point
>>102692496Why do I get /pw/ vibes from nijisister posts?
>>102700840>Fagoon is also a phasecuck LMAO, do you also watch dramafags? You're such a stereotype
>You do know that Vshojo hated Hololive the mostIs that why they started a two year long campaign forcing talents and staff to spread slander about Niji while trying to poach active members? There's no proof that Vshoujo poached active Holo members either
Friendly reminder that Anycolor is a black company and NijiEN was horribly mismanaged.
There is no coming back from Elira's most viewed stream being malicious deflection in service of her overlords.
Friendly reminder that Vshojo is a black company and VshoujoJP was also horribly mismanaged
There is no coming back from Mint's most viewed stream being malicious deflection in service of her overlords
>>102700978All you've proven is that NijiEN was a much easier target for Vshojo's underhanded tactics. Probably because it was already rotten on the inside.
>>102700840>t. seething holonig
>>102701106Sure, just lash out at everyone you recognize as more successful than you.
>>102700840>The only difference is that it didn't work.The 4 recent holoEN graduated members were successfully poached by vshojo. They didn't have a chance to debut though, just like mint
>>102701169Ah, my mistake. I guess you're right. Vshojo has Cover right where they want them.
From Playboard, it looks like her SC revenue over the last 30 days is 1.2k despite streaming nearly every day. So her cut is perhaps $400, depending on how much were via apple. I can't imagine ad revenue and memberships would add a huge multiple to this, so unless she's getting paid a lot of money from niji for events or other... work, she'd probably be better off flipping burgers.
>>102701089>All you've proven is that NijiEN was a much easier target for Vshojo's underhanded tacticsTwo menheras got fired. One menhera broke every rule in the broke, got fired and went to VPoachjo and gave them the idea of starting a hate campaign on Niji to steal their talents
The other was told to wait, tried to kill herself over it then blamed everyone else for it. Making it easy to get the hate campaign ball rolling
Also they employed Nazuna.
>>102701144>esl>brownoid>faggot>shitty taste in vtubersThose are are the usual holonig traits. I won't necessary call those being "more successful"
>>102701270That's strange, she literally just said she spent $500 on the horse gacha game an hour ago , laughed and said it was nothing compared to other gachas she's played.
With all this pocket watching, it sounds like you're the one flipping burgers while trying to convince yourself you make more than an internet celebrity
>>102701341>esl...
>are are>I won't necessaryYeah, totally.
>>102701270>$400Holy shit. That's a 53.846% increase of what top HoloEN talents make.
>>102701309>and gave them the idea of starting a hate campaign on Niji to steal their talentskinda based ngl, Niji deserved it
>>102701396Do you think Playboard is lying? Why would they? This is really strange to say.
I don't know her personal circumstances or how much money her family/partner(s) have or whatever, or if she has savings from better times... but her earnings are probably below minimum wage now. Not what I'd call winning.
>>102701433>are areYeah, this is tooootally an esl mistake and not a typo. Whatever you like to hear, holonegroe.
Elira can't even get her subcount anywhere near where it already was. Still over 80k off her peak. No, Elira lost, too. In deals with Niji, everyone loses.
>>102701549The first thing that was completely retarded was that you said ad revenue and memberships don't pay much when multiple YouTubers have said ad revenue has carried them for a bit and when there are hundreds of members and even more gifted members every stream
The second thing that was retarded was you ignoring merch, VPs and concerts
The last retarded thing was you insisting she takes money from her family when she has been independent since she debuted just so you can make believe that you make more money than her while Niji members like Maria and Doppio are easily able to afford property in Tokyo. You may be what we call sad
>>102701658I thought about leaving it out but if you're going to make the ESL accusation, you should really have your i's dotted and your t's crossed, ya know? Or maybe you don't, if English is difficult for you.
And I assume you don't even know what's wrong with the second example.
Vpoacho lied.
Pomu will never be an idol.
>>102700101Well you see, it was actually a vshojo intern that larped as 13 Niji livers! And went live on millies chnnael!
>>102701733You lack reading comprehension
>I can't imagine ad revenue and memberships would add a huge multiple to this>so unless she's getting paid a lot of money from niji for events or other... work>I don't know her personal circumstances or how much money her family/partner(s) have or whatever, or if she has savings from better timesYou are either 1. arguing in bad faith (blatantly lying, to put it simply), or 2. too stupid to read.
Further argument is probably pointless since you cannot comprehend the written word.
>>102702074I accept your concession
>>102701772It seems you're having some trouble with punctuation, little monkey boy. But don't worry, you will be taught someday.
>>102702367Oh yeah, totally.
>>102701545>$5 dollars intended for charity have been deposited in your account
>holonigs btfo
>vshojosharts btfo
>turdbird and toothpaste flavor btfo
>nijiGAWDS winning as always