https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJcoWzIV520

And she didn't make it?!

imagine a timeline where she got in instead of Kiara

>>102690998 (OP)
What was stopping this bitch from continuing to apply? The twin dogs never gave up and kept applying in so many ways, even to JP and ID, and they eventually got it.
She could have gotten in by now or even earlier.

So, did she give up on becoming a Holo?

>audition for Holo in 2020
Name one female alive who didn't

she should have made project hope into a duo and debuted alongside irys

>>102690998 (OP)
Talent and character. You have to have both in order to pass the audition.

>>102690998 (OP)
I'm so disappointed she didn't get in

>>102691062
She didn't have streaming experience so she applied to the next best thing.

In hindsight, it WAS the right choice because without that, she'd likely never would've met Selen, and I don't want to imagine that timeline.

>>102690998 (OP)
Welcome! How are you enjoying your first week on /vt/, Anonymous?

If i have to put which character she had to compete with, it's kiara. So yeah thats why she lost and kiara got picked instead

>>102690998 (OP)
If you've been following for her longer than 5 minutes you'll realize she's menhara as fuck and probably didn't pass the litmus test.

or do you really believe that they somehow let all of gen 1 and 2 in and lost mint's tape in the process?

>>102691025
>TakaMori 1.0 with Pomu/Mint instead Kiara

>>102691062
2020 Myth audition was beta testing that requires only 1 major talent to fill in each character
Gura - kid voice act, mesugaki
Ame - tech nerd (not), approachable for tech issues
Ina - drawing focus
Mori - singing (she was hired because she raps as a bonus
Kiara - vlogging/chatting focus (this is where mint lost to compete with)

>she likes japanese idols
huh trannybros???

>>102690998 (OP)
Ine was a mistake. boring ass artist

>>102690998 (OP)
we could have her right now instead of sana, bae, shiori, or erb...

>>102691296
Transwomen also love Japanese idols, thoughever.

>>102691062
She applied for multiple companies, like most do, duh?

>>102691338
Good bait anon, but it won't work. Takodachis aren't that stupid.

>>102691141
>she'd likely never would've met Selen
And Holo beggars never seem to care, even though this is the best argument against them

>>102691352
All downgrades. Even Sana.

>left niji as her dream of becoming an idol under niji is impossible
>Becomes indie again, but realizes her dream of becoming an idol is still strong.
>Sees Vshojo as the best of the other top companies as Phase Connect(at that time, was seen as not focused on idols), and Hololive(she doesn’t want to apply again and wait for months or possibly years as one of the hundreds waiting applicants) were not applicable to her.
>Also got caught and ate the Vshojo propaganda marketing without question
>tells Gunrun of making an idol oriented vtuber group, Gunrun probably thinking of the amount of money he could scam from them, agreed.
>Now encouraged with increasing enthusiasm, she, Gunrun and vshojo staff made an audition for those indie vtubers who had same idol dream. Selects the best in the candidates.
>Practice, dreams and plans for their debut for months with additional plans of songs, future concerts, merch, etc. as well as paying for their riggers and new models.
>teases her fans for her projects.
>Few months till their scheduled debut, suddenly ghosted by Gunrun and staff.
>Invited by the Hololive to make a guest appearance on a 3D concert of her friend there.
>Everything she experienced and saw there were everything she wanted to be an idol. Self pity starts.
>Still no communication from Gunrun. Many vshojo talents started leaving.
>Later found out from the rumors that many were being scammed and unpaid. Dream immediately breaks.
>Woke up, ironmouse leaving vshojo. Everything falls apart.
>Reveals to her fans that she actually was planned to become part of Vshojo, trying to hold it in.
>More scandalous and bad revelations appeared, worse than her previous company.
>schedules anniversary stream celebration to cheer herself
>Releases audition video during that stream that she submitted on hololive way back 2020.
>”Here is my audition video to Hololive way back 2020. Btw, this didn’t receive any views, yeah no one watched… yeah. Haha don’t worry, I’m not salty. Wait, isnt saying that would make it seem I was being salty?” all while forcing laughs to stop herself from crying.

This is just too hard to watch. I still stand that she is not hololive material but man, its like watching that certain horse girl who always lost and never won saying "I had so much fun… so wh-why am I crying?”

>>102691062
At the time there was no EN at all, just Niji and Holo. Assuming she wasnt just glazing her employer, Niji(JP) was her #1 and Holo(JP) was her #2. She applied for holo auditions for the first EN gen, failed, and then applied for Niji auditions for their first EN gen and passed. Why would she apply for holo after that while she was in niji? By the time gen 2 auditions come around nijiEN looks like a fine company, smaller than the hit first gen of hololive but still thriving and at this point there are no serious issues.
Obviously, eventually cracks formed with enna clique and luxiem, but it wasnt really clear that niji was the 'wrong' decison until fairly far in. By the time she realizes she needs to get out, gen 3 auditions are already complete, and by the time she comes back from soft retirement gen 4 is also already decided.

>>102691289
ame was supposed to be gaming focus, but the gamers dropped her when she got farmed in cs and raged at her teammates, so she had to shift her focus to gfe

>>102691668
It still shivers me to imagine Gunrun coming to her and saying that he can make her idol dream come true

Like nigga do you know what agency are you running Gunrun?

>>102690998 (OP)
Myth wouldn't have worked with Mint in it, suffering follows her everywhere.

Just imagine Mint joins hololive and got fired two years late. No dramatrain to kickstart the indie career and she ends in local kfc. Fin.

>>102691707
oh right i forgot her early moments of rage gaming

>>102691707
kwab

mint/kiara japshit karaoke was the most soul thing i have heard in a while. they both should have been in together.

>>102690998 (OP)
>Imagine Mint plays as Amelia instead of that lazy cunt
Yagoo missed it...

>>102691668
noo... you're phrasing it in such a way that makes this even more depressing, man...

Yes retarded it's fucking known she was a holo reject, this is why people always mocked her "i'm a nijisanji super-fan" bullshit even in the earliest days
>>102691062
apart from the fact that she probably couldnt apply while in niji (so missing out on like gen 2-3 basically) i also think she's the kind of menhera who will just give up and say "they wouldn't take me i'm not good enough" just to avoid rejection after actually trying

>>102690998 (OP)
THE SKY IS BLUE???

>>102691668
I'm sorry man any person going to Vshojo to become an idol is a retard.

>>102690998 (OP)
KEK, IS THAT HER AUDITION? NO WONDER COVER REJECT HER. HAHAHAHHAHA

>>102690998 (OP)
She said they didn't even look at her audition. I'm just gonna blame Omega for this.

>>102691141
Selen’s dumbass should have applied to holo with mumei and we could of had both

>>102692344
omega has been the default for what a failure of council has become. Still what happens on forward till we get advent and justice is that mint literally gave up on what she is supposedly achieving, getting into hololive.

>>102692355
Selen/Doki's entire e-sports shtick is anathema to idolfags, holo tribalfags and (especially) unicorns. She would have been the most hated Holo talent ever.

>>102690998 (OP)
>And she didn't make it?!
It was HER turn

>>102692934

>>102691025
id prefer if Gura didn't make it

>>102691099
My mom

>>102692934
Towa
La+
Botan
Aqua

>>102692934
Retard alert

>>102693040
>I'd prefer if Myth and by extension holoEN died on the vine

>>102690998 (OP)
Newfag

>>102691062
This might be the most underage post I've seen in a while.

>>102693147
Let me guess...
>Gura made Hololive
Hololive had a big English following before EN was even a concept, Gura was there just to reap all the benefits and fags love to rewrite history about this.

>>102690998 (OP)
>She gets in Myth instead of Ina
>Ina waits to join Council and gets in instead of Sana
Oh what could've been.

>>102691062
>Apply to Myth, don't even get your audition viewed
>Myth debuts
>"Holy shit they're all so good, I'll never make the cut for Holo"
>settles for lesser corpo

>>102693300
Holy fuck I haven't seen a reaction image from this anime since forever.

>>102692934
Yeah, I don't know how she would've handled the same kind of treatment Kroni or mori got for male collabs. The girl's tough, but back then, she definitely would have buckled and burnt out the way Ame did.

>>102693300
>Kiara handicapped because of a multitude of debut problems, ranging from the shitty voice she used to immediately being turned into a joke by Mori calling her kusotori, on top of separating herself from her genmates because there's like a 10-hour gap between her stream hours and theirs
>Mori was never fully committed for the first year or two and refused to participate in box events like playing Minecraft very early on, and she didn't even participate in HoloRust
>Ina is too chill
>Ame is average
First EN nendo? Gura. Hottest EN merch? Dinogura. Most popular music at the time coming from EN? Bonebros. Plus general numbers numbers numbers. You're insane to downplay her contribution to early EN, especially when there was no management support whatsoever, so they really relied on themselves. Was she the sole thing? No, it was a team effort. Ame was the one who conceptualized Dinogura in the first place. But you're delusional if you think Gura never existing would see EN be in the same place it is today.

>5 years ago
>still couldn't let it go
>online pity party

>>102691707
>>102691890
I'd only watched Ame close to debut and the constant crashouts and anxiety were painful to watch so I completely lost all interest (and ended up never really becoming an EN watcher after Myth). I randomly watched part of a Dooby stream recently and my jaw dropped at how much more chill and nice she is now

>>102692934
If you truly think this, you're a HoloEN newfag that has never watched a single lick of HoloJP and you need to be necked.

>>102691110
Nene and FWMC failed her audition multiple times.

>>102691796
>>102692239
VshojoJP has a direct connection to a JP idol company (Dearstage), hence why Mint was working with VSJP for her idol gen project.

>>102693040
based
Gura is so overrated
Literally every single one of Hololive is far better than her in both enterteining and singing.

>>102693665
This is actually why Im glad Doki and Mint didn't get into Holo. In the timeline where they do, I can see them burning out EXACTLY the same way gura and ame did. (Not necessarily saying they would've been equally popular or whatever, just the roles.)
Dooby in particular, seems very chill these days, and I love her collabs with Doki. She brightens up and becomes a mischievous chatterbox in ways I rately see outside of saba collabs. I think those are the only two partners I've seen her really open up with.

>>102691025
The weird thing is that I see her fitting Ina or Gura Model instead. Her voice is/was a bit childish, it would go either to a womanlet or a loli, not a grown up model like Kiara, at best a Mumei model.

>>102693607

>>102690998 (OP)
just embrace being indie shitter and move on for God sake!

>>102693788
Doki absolutely, but I doubt Mint would leave because she would kill to be on stage

is she not gonna try anymore I don't get why not

>>102691099
Nobody knew what a vtuber was is 2020

>>102694169
i knew

>>102690998 (OP)
i kind of wonder what a good audition for a vtuber would look like

imagine getting that sent to you when you have to decide on who to hire (with 10k+ other applications)

>>102694279
you're not a female

>>102692934
It's funny watching retards say the most false things ever with such confidence.

>>102692355
Thank god she didn't. If I'd had to listen to Selen's voice every group collab I would have probably quit watching holoen

>>102693469
>since forever
The anime is pretty new so it can't have been that long

>>102694157
Because ex-Niji = auto reject
>but luna
The JP fans still throw shit at each other about that to this day. Neither corpo wants to deal with that again.

>>102694403
Y-yes anon, just like the PS2...

>>102694157
She's probably married to her Mint identity by now.

>>102694129
It didn't stop her from leaving niji, though holo is a much better company, and she'd theoretically have kiara alongside Doki in this scenario

>>102691110
>>102693701
Watame failed her auditions 4 times

>>102694334
i am lol

>>102694459
Iirc the biggest self admitted rejects were Fuwamoco with at least 6

>>102694406
>>102694434
right, that makes sense actually. unfortunate

>>102694435
She left Niji because Anycolor failed to give her the idol dream, and the cancellation of the original EN concert was her last straw, meanwhile HoloEN had their 1st successful concert in US. I'm sure she would be as workaholic as Calli in terms of being idol and stay in Hololive much longer

>>102694468
Prove it.

>>102694480
I love how the multi-rejects always end up becoming the biggest meme material.

>>102694549
Yeah, I could see it, but honestly I don't like imagining a world where doki and mint ever split up. Those girls are such a joy when they're together. I think this is what sameame fans felt for their group dynamics too

>>102694434
Please don't use the m-word

It is what is it, hololive is already pretty exclusive and limited with the number of talents they hire.
They can't hire everyone.

>>102694480
i only wish to have 1% of their tenacy, what blessed twins they're.

>>102693565
You're talking about numbers after the fact I'm talking about the inception. Anyone could have taken Guras spot and Hololive would have been just has successful as it is today without Gura currently, This was the Hololive fanbase that was created cause of the JPs it's not Guras fanbase
https://youtu.be/ytIujsDtOTM?t=179
https://youtu.be/LyPfwMeiaNk
https://youtu.be/K7rQRj-jcdU
https://youtu.be/BgUKdpS4AGg?t=150

At least with Gura gone and Mint in we wouldn't have an absent vtuber for 3 years, Myth collabs wouldn't be the TakeMori show with 3 supporting casts, and a graduation causing a shitstorm that made drama tubers salivate

Gura couldn't even be bothered to put her gen mates on her youtube home page btw

>>102691166
Kiara was supposed to be in JP. Then Polka became available and they dumped her in EN, the spot was never available

>keep hiring tourists in the industy from twitch instead of actual idolfags that know and love the idol culture
>have pikachu face when they fuck off or do a sudden lore drop
The latest en gen is a prime example

>>102694658
Don't worry anon, Mint will only ever marry Snake or Kiara.

>>102691025
kek

>>102691997
Amelia created so many unique vtuber concepts, that Yagoo statue, headspringed and charmed a bunch of people to start those smol 3D models, and charmed people to do creative assets that you would have not have expected, Amelia also had that drive to be passionate about every technology worthy which could related to vtubers.
Even now she is spending her money on mocap, 3D modeling technology and other related instruments.

How dare you fucking treat Ame as an average joe you hubris piece of shit.

If anything, no one is replaceable there. They each charmed a majority, even that least contribution one Ninomae Ina'nis despite her lackluster contributions can charm people with her petite nature and soft natured voice while sexy model.

CAN YOU THINK OF MINT DOING THE SAME?

>>102694703
Doki will be the flower girl and throw flowers directly at Mint's face.

I can't see any of the myth girls being piloted by anyone else.
For council however....Look, I like Sana but C'MOOOON. I don't know if Mint could have made her work but she would have tried a lot more than her.

She should have applied for Council, she would have fit

>>102694659
Seriously, she needs to realize, that the vtubing corpo sphere is fucking dead. There's only one reliable corpo left, and more people go to space every year, than enroll into this company.

>>102694658
mint?

>>102694739
No, I think most people were theorizing Doki would be in that slot, but even then, I don't know. Ame was a huge inspiration to Doki and someone she looked up to and respected greatly. I don't know if she'd be able to do the same things without that road to follow.

>>102694739
>Even now she is spending her money on mocap, 3D modeling technology and other related instruments.
>still can't top Filian insane 3D tracking and content
Seriously Ame is just overrated, we can just stop talking about her.

>>102694758
Doki with the fourth wife behavior as per usual.

>>102694785
>>102694789
>>102692924
>>102693459
Imagine if Mint became the Keeper of Space and we actually got a hotter fucking model than Sana, like seriously I think I can see her being white haired and green eyes.

>>102694826
1/10 ragebait

>>102694694
>Kiara was supposed to be in JP. Then Polka became available and they dumped her in EN
Woah, I haven't the Nazca rrat in the wild since 2020
Shitposter were so much more creative back then.....

>>102694832
The Bachelorette party would be legendary

>>102694837
I want that but only if she stays brown and delicious.

>>102694823
>Doki?
Did you reply to someone wrong, cause we were talking about mint bro

>>102694837
I can't see Mint's voice coming out of Sana's model.
Maybe if they made her younger... ToT

>>102694886
>>102694866
a white haired green eyes, medium booba, with purple colored clothing, and she got overpowered abilities, she is the Keeper of Space after all.

Mint could have totally fit in

>>102694694
>catalogtards still believing /jp/ rrats in the year of God 2025

>>102691851
Fired for what

>>102692355
>imagine Doki's voice coming from this

>>102694883
Maybe. Mint never would have filled Ames shoes and I don't understand why anyone would expect her to. With how Mint was cast, the only role I could see mint taking in Myth would be Kiara. I can't see a world where both were accepted into Myth.

>>102695055
> Now that Gura and Ame gone
Mint it's time to join, it's not too late

>Mint was rejected
>Nerissa was accepted

Something went wrong along the way

>>102694961
Nah. The only holoen model I could ever see Doki coming out of would be gigi's. Both doki and mint are brats at their cores. If she was Sana, I could see her as a chocolate brat. Doki was really good with Kamame's design. I can't really see her with anyone other than Kamame or Klaeia's art

>>102694739
Trolls love to dunk on Dooby and her unimpressive ccv, but Ame really was a critical component to Myth's success. Really telling how she probably has more hardcore goslings than even Nimi/Fauna does. Don't let antis revise history.

>>102690998 (OP)
Pomu you will never be an idol.
Enjoy dying alone with not a single true friend and dried up eggs.

>>102694739
Also Gura, by her own words, was a massive nervous wreck in her early days & Ame reached out & helped her.
Without Ame, you will get even fewer Gura.

>>102690998 (OP)
I don't know when in 2020 this audition is, but it's possible that this is an audition for Council and not Myth.
They won't be making their debut immediately after the audition.

>>102695137
>sloptuber carried by her model quality got rejected
>kino voice actress and singer got accepted
Yep, i think Hololive is based.

>>102694826
Filian is from a rich family and goes through like seven valve indexes a year. Plus she's an extrovert. Dooby, while personally rich from her time in Holo, is from a lower middle class family that constantly leeches off her, and is an autistic introvert.

>>102695167
Yeah, it's impossible to deny that Ame was critical to getting Myth off the ground.
also I really like how civil this thread has been. Really refreshing for /vt/ and I wish this happened nore often.

>>102695233
It was April 2020, for the Myth auditions.

>>102695242
>muh rich family
No evidence about this.

>muh introvert
Strange way to say "skill issue"

>>102695268
Most of the trolls are in the Nimi & Kson threads. Plus we do have one shitstirrer here>>102694826

>>102695233
She said it was dated April 19, 2020...

>>102695137
Hololive recruiters are worse than a lot of small corpos

>>102695242
Ame can make good-quality 3D content, like Kiara's concert. She just doesn't care about herself & treats herself like a lab rat.
Her being so selfless & helping others to the point she promoted others more than herself is a big part of why Myth is so successful.

Myth was the first EN branch, in a time and world where it was unknown whether people even wanted English speaking Hololive members. And true enough, a lot of people who were waiting for English speaking Hololive members did show interest. But most importantly, Myth didn't just fill a niche hole among vtuber fans, they drew in a lot more fans who would never have considered following virtual idols. Outsiders. Myth had to figure everything out on their own, with maybe a little bit of help from other branches, but when it comes down to it they did everything on their own. Figuring out how to entertain their fans and keep them coming back for more, figuring out how to circumvent restrictions due to the lockdown period and still do things together, they figured out what the fans wanted, needed, and they delivered. If Myth hadn't worked as hard as they did, we'd never have welcomed EN Gen 4 recently. Without the hard work from dumb shork, the time traveling gremlin, the rapping reaper apprentice, the floor potato priestess, and the fiery chicken, we'd never have welcomed any of the other generations. No Moom, no chaos rat, no sexy clock picking out a bikini, no memeing pebble, no hallo hallo bau bau's, no fries-on-pizza-panther. Owe so much more to Myth than a lot of people give them credit for, and I'm very proud of them for that. Proud they going strong!

Basically every Myth and Council member has specifically praised Ame multiple times for her jumping in to help them, and many of the various collabs were Ame behind the scenes providing tech help or ideas etc, even for Council. Things like all the VR Chat models and the main people used for videos still, came from Ame

She gathered basically all of the 3D animators and asset creators etc for her own projects, and then the rest of EN started using them. She was also behind most of the early trends in general, like pinned assets and legs on desks and color swapping her model color etc.

Kiara learned under Ame and has been very active in organizing things for the last few years. She's honestly had the most growth of any member in EN IMO. Early on she was kind of locked down because of the Takamori ship hindering her in the eyes of the fanbase at large (seen as an accessory to Calli) but after Kiara officially dropped the ship and wanted to stand on her own, she really really really grew fast.

She's arguably the one who has the best feel on the pulse of the fanbase as a whole. She lurks in a lot of the fan discussion areas and knows how people feel, and she is very considerate about trying to do things just to make fans happy. She's done so many collabs and events just to give the fans more Myth collabs because she knows how much we love them

Kiara also spent most of EN's history being the only EU member trying to cover that entire time zone for people, while also being one of the only EN members to play a lot of niche games. If you made a list of games that have only been streamed by a single member, I would say Kiara or Ame are probably still the #1 and 2 for all of En.

Calli has obviously been an absolute powerhouse on the music side of things, and has brought tons of attention to Hololive from people who had never even heard of vtubers. She has probably done more for brand recognition amongst non vtuber fans than anyone but Gura, and she hits a different outside market than Gura does.

Calli's growth as a gamer has been crazy to watch too. She was definitely not the best at games early on, to put it politely, but now days she's gotten pretty dang good at a lot of games. One night I watched her for like 2 hours, went to bed, woke up to see her still streaming and went to work, worked all day and took my lunch break and saw that she was STILL fighting Maelenia, so many hour streams on that one.

Calli has been behind a lot of cross gen stuff as well, like Chadcast. I believe Calli (or maybe kiara) has likely collabed with more members than anyone else in Myth, or probably EN in general. Calli was the first one to meet every EN member in person AFAIK

Gura, you could probably write a literal book on what all Gura impacted for the vtubing industry, she's basically the face of Vtubing that everyone thinks of when you say the word, so I'll just hit the high points

She's the OG Kusogaki and Memelord in EN, but she's also super caring and sweet. She's the most GFE leaning of EN besides IRyS, while also being the bratty imouto.

I think basically anyone would agree that EN just wouldn't be here in the form it is today without Gura bringing in the masses like she did. The others hit specific niches or brought specific technical skills to the table to build EN, while Gura brought in hordes of people who had never even heard of vtubing.

Her comedic timing, memelord skills, ability to avoid any controversies etc are wildly impressive. I don't wanna harp on 5,000 more words about Goobs because we all know how important our sassy deredere shark is

>>102695326
>small corpos
Who?

>>102695234
>kino voice actress
LOL you never bought any of her shit tier voicepack, she only knows how to sound like a fake slut

>Singer
no karaoke, no original song since forever, woke western pop slop

>carried by her model
yep that's Nerissa for you. 0 content, Less hours streamed in all EN, demon of sound my ass. Just a big titted model who spends her days catering to parasocials on twitter

>>102695437
Hey wait a second why didn't you mention Ina

>>102695137
>Fuwamoco got rejected 3 times

>>102695500
>she only knows how to sound like a fake slut
At least she has a divine voice to hear, one of the best voices of hololive

>no karaoke
She said herself she doesn't like doing karaoke

>no original song since forever
Still Sweetest Scarlet is one of the best song in hololive and her covers are great.

>0 content
>he forgot about the recently 3d musical

>>102695500
>Covers don't count cause I say so
>Second most subbed channel of her generation isn't talented
Sure thing, anon. I think I put more faith into Cover's recruiters that kept finding girls to break the 1 million subs mark with. Which btw Nerissa will probably also achieve this year.

>>102690998 (OP)
I don't think she could've replaced any of Myth's members since it always will be them, but if she were to try again with Council audition...she could easily of replaced either Sana or Fauna. My bed is on Fauna since the whole green motive would be perfect with Mint's whole forest elf motive. I honestly think could move to Japan along with Bae for their idol careers.

>>102695557
they took a long time to understand how to properly sell themselves and show what value they could bring, they aren't smart dogs

>>102695557
They must had been applying to JP, lol

>>102695611
kys numberfag

>>102695619
It's "motif", third-worlder.

>>102695638
>"less our Streamed in EN"
>gets factchecked by numbers of subs
>"k-kys numberfag!!!"
Lmao you really are a funny one

>>102695619
Agreed

>>102695638
I don't even care who has more than others, but saying any of the girls are talentless is pure tomfoolery. Recruiters got praised repeatedly for their good selections and the subs prove that.

>>102695609
>she doesnt like Karaoke
>she doesnt like games
>she doesnt like streaming
>she doesnt like singing songs that put her at risk of being compared to others
>her music releases keeps increasingly flopping
yep, good talent. 10/10 recruitment

>>102690998 (OP)
She could still join in the future, I belibe!

I think I've been rejected about 15 times now. At least Mint diversified, gotta give her credit there.
Just because you're tenacious doesn't mean you'll get the rock up the mountain.

>>102692934
>EN Towa
yeah

>>102695683
sounds like most of holoEN

>>102690998 (OP)
I already got rejected 4 FUCKING TIMES IN HOLOEN

WHY WOULD I TRY AGAIN

>>102695817
moom sex

Hololive's standards are dumb if they rejected her but not some of the people currently in

>>102690998 (OP)
/b/omu doesn't pass the vibe check, also male collaber

She should have never joined Nijisanji, waited a lot longer, and replace Fauna


I ALWAYS FUCKING HATED VEGANS

>>102695868
Hololive has male collabbers, baffling post

So where's her niji audition video?

>>102693459
>Ina waits
She applied on a whim
If they rejected her she would have dropped it instantly and continued with her main career

>>102695683
Literally when she said or even imply about any of this except the karaoke?
She said multiple times she loves streaming and how much she missed doing it due to her work in studio and stuff. She even advice about how much you have to love streaming before actually trying to invest into vtubing. Even for gaming she tries her best to partecipate with advent and collabs, despite not even being a big gamer.

>>102696018
outing yourself as a touristfag, brave

>>102691025
Die mintbeggar.

>>102690998 (OP)
I don't like this woman
She's like a cancer

>>102695306
So that is why I was falling for ragebaitt and I was fueling it more :'>

>>102695619

>>102696075
>muh tourist
>still no proof
Allright anon, keep your secrets i guess

>>102696218
watch streams

>>102696206
No, this model is cursed

>>102696206
SHE'S BEAUTIFUL

>>102696206
MY WIFE

>>102691338
but she is an artist
<(￣︶￣)>

>>102690998 (OP)
So what's stopping her from applying for EN5?
She could get in more easily as a nepo hire because she has friends on the inside.
Or has she completely given up and settled for signing the Hololive talent wall as an outsider?

>>102691844
das minit, innit?

>>102695928
what's a niji?

>>102693745
She is the very definition of how a model design can carry the vtuber.

>>102694318
For the time period? A lot of people started using this format back when it was leaked in 2022 and this was probably around very late 2020. She was ahead of the curve but man, she continues to be a disappointment.
https://files.catbox.moe/z1u6id.mp4

>>102690998 (OP)
Someone compared her to Justice hires and was saying she should be in instead of them, when upon further inspection even then she gets mogged there

>ERB
No way in hell she matches her singing and VA prowess
>Raora
Lol lmao no way she's even touching her drawing abilities
>CC
Tech pro, musical instrument player, vibes with a lot of people (especially Gigi)
>GG
RP goddess, comedic moments and certified clip generator, very good compatibility with other members (especially CC)

>>102696249
>implying i don't
how can i love her without watching her streams anon?

>>102696364
Even her model design wasn't this good actually, or at least the 2d live model specifically. Her face was too flat.

>>102696441
twitterfags love her and don't watch any of her rare streams. You obviously don't watch enough else you would know I was quoting her and not just making shit up

>>102693745
Helmir is that you

>>102696465
Most holo live models are not that good, but the design itself is incredibly good for marketing and merchandise.

>>102696405
I'm still amazed how talented and great are Justice members, they really cooked well with this gen.
Like the violin unarchived concert made was incredible.

>>102690998 (OP)
>>102694169
I forget how new everyone on this board is nowadays

>>102696364
*Riona crying*

>>102691062
>joins nijiEN
>nijiEN implodes
>joins vshojo
>vshojo implodes
Do you really want her anywhere near Hololive?

>>102696307
After Niji, she swore never to join a jp corpo again. After vshojo, she likely won't join any corpo again.
It's probably gonna be underground for now until Doki saves up for the global tour

>>102696586
they're wrong though (unless that's what you're implying?)

>>102696513
>he's implying i'm a twitterfag and don't watch her stream despite not using twitter and watching her stream
Keep up with your assumption instead of reporting proof. Saying "watch her stream", isn't a proof, it's like saying "look up yourself for the source" which i still do and she didn't say those thing expect the karaoke one.

>>102696632
watch streams and stop being a whiny little bitch

>>102691109
she quit after one audition for myth and then went straight for niji, there is no room for anyone to recruit her.

>>102690998 (OP)
Of course she didn't, bitch is low quality

>>102696664
>anon says she doesn't like streaming
>anon says she doesn't like gaming
>anon says she doesn't like singing
>without any proof
>"y-you s-stop whining!!"
Sure i'm the one whining and not instead praising her.

>>102690998 (OP)
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Hope you fags are reposting this fucking EVERYWHERE on the internet.
Zoomies are gonna have a fucking field day with this.

>>102694739
Love to see someone putting respect on the GOAT's name, Ame was the leader of Myth for a reason, the best to ever do it

>>102696711
watch streams, it shouldn't be too hard, there isn't much material to work with. Then come back /here/

>>102696711
>>102696760
stfu jailbirds, nobody likes you and your that whore

>>102696816
I LIKE JAILBIRDS THOUGH

>>102696576
The only unlucky thing is that they were debuting at a time where Vtubing is currently on a downturn in the West, but regardless I'm actually quite proud of them for the grind and eventual acceptance by the general HoloEN audiences

>>102696827
AIchat lover, opinion invalid

>>102696603
When you put it that way? Yes, actually. Total corpo death.

>>102696603
if it means the death of HoloEN, hell yeah brother

The Marine "I know you're a jealous woman" image is really appropriate right now, shame that I didn't have that image saved.

>>102696620
I wish, but Mint's self-confidence is so terrible she thinks she can't survive without having corporate/management support.

>>102696914
she needs a husband/manager

>>102695242
>lower middle class
Damn America is rough if being so skint your childhood doll house is fished from the dumpster, you have to make a Christmas tree out of literal garbage and your brother has to rob the neighbour to buy you a Nintendo ds is still considered lower middle class.

>>102697042
Having a house already puts you in the middle class.

Keep begging, Mintbeggars

>>102697121
Yeah maybe now but not back then

>>102693565
not the same, myth would only lost ame cause mint would stay

>>102690998 (OP)
She is Weekly Shonen Jump's Shingeki no Kyojin that got rejected.

>>102691025
it would have been even worse

>>102697151
it was HER TURN
she DESERVED IT
niji BAD
Minto SHITTO POOPO MY DIAPER PEEPOOPOO

what Minto needs is a thick cock up her ghostly asshole

>>102696816
Sorry to tell you this, but we fat fucks have one of the most popular fan models, our oshi has multiple million view songs under her belt, and literally has people get chills every time she sings (and before you go, "where is that its been so long?" like an idiot, she sings all the time meaning YOU don't watch streams). We're taking this bitch by storm this year, so get ready for it.

>>102697354
No you would be surprised. Our family was considered lower middle class and I basically helped take care of my little brother since I was 9 doing babysitting, had many a winter we needed to use a sleeping bag together cause there was no heat, had to live out of a Econo Lodge for a large part of 4th grade, we would have loved to have a house, which my mother got cheated out of back in the late 90s due to a vindictive real estate agent. Shit was bad then, but got very much worse.

>>102698611
LMFAO delusional retard

>>102698611
I hate to break it to you anon but your oshi's singing isn't even the best in holoEN, and her work ethic is probably one of the worst if not the worst

>>102698962
idk about that last part, holoEN has some lazy fucks

>>102691025
>>102690998 (OP)
Imagine a timeline where Mint got into hololive instead of Fauna/Sana/Kronii/other random whores who clearly never wanted to/never should have been there.

>>102691141
>the sexiest mint fanart
>and it's with a male version of doki
Le sigh

>>102698962
it's really difficult to be the best once ERB joined.
But still for me Nerissa is second best.

>>102699238
IRyS beats them both by a large margin

>>102699260
Bro you either delusional or dishonest lmao

>>102692148
Well they didn’t take her, so it’s not like she was wrong

>>102699260
Nope, as a person who actually performed competitively with my choral group when I was younger, Nerissa and IRyS are very much even. The style is different and you can have any favorite you wish, but technique, control, its not hugely favoring one or the other. And ERB has very good power and projection, you could say she is better than IRyS and Rissa there, but her control is lacking, she does cover it with flourishes, acting like she switches to a lounge singer mid song and starts scatmanning where she shouldn't. But Rissa has the best control because she probably was browbeat like hell by her older sister about it and saw the shit that happens when you strain your voice too long trying to show off, that shit breaks and breaks hard.

>>102690998 (OP)
oh no mintfag, so the whole mint audition and rejected by holo was true

>>102699465
nobody gives a fck about your life anon or your so called expertise, everyone on the internet is an expert

>>102691472
>nijifag want both selen mint to suffer in niji as long as they are not in holo
not surprised at all lol

>>102691141
>In hindsight, it WAS the right choice because without that, she'd likely never would've met Selen, and I don't want to imagine that timeline.
>retarded anon forget that vtubing industry is so incestuous that everyone will know everyone anyway

>Mint thread
>retarded Nerissafags arguing
can the fat fucks go back to shit on their oshi in /ope/

>>102699552
Like I said, you can like whoever you want, but thems the facts. You may take it or leave it as you want. People had been trying to say since debut that Rissa was only a studio singer, and to be frank, are the same types making those mashup videos, they are the ones who don't know shit.

>>102699733
Aside from sheer power, IRyS surpasses the others in almost every aspect. Her karaoke and song-learning streams consistently deliver a level of quality and diversity the others could never dream of touching

>>102691025
/b/omu in holo and the honorary niji, kiara in niji would've been be funny kek

Realistically, with Vshojo going down the way it did, do you think indies will still apply to corpos? I keep seeing the same sentiment going around about just doing it all on your own and you can make it that way and that all corpos are bad.This is coming from big indie vtubers too

>>102690998 (OP)
thank god she failed, we have enough male collabers in EN already

>>102701848
There's always gonna be people who think it's gonna be different for them or with this company. Even NijiEN still got fresh blood. And not every company can be as bad as vshojo and kurosanji r-r-right?

>>102701848
you have twitter brainworms. new corpos are popping up all the time and lots of girls still want in holo no matter what vtweeters or phasecucks on twitter say.

A lot of seethe in this thread but I have to say I saw at least an order of magnitude more Mint happis at Offkai than I saw of any other vtuber

>>102700673
Kiara would fit right in

Thank FUCK she didn't get in.

>>102702415
I'd fit right in Kiara

>>102692934
>>102693082
>>102693673
You're kind of proving that anon's point by not being able to name a single EN who's similar. EN viewers (particularly in the Myth and Council days) had a very warped view of what Hololive was and would not have accepted an EN Towa. She would have been shitposted about as soon as she collabed with her pro and ex-pro friends, and she'd inevitably interact with Stars as she did in our timeline which would have resulted in the same kind of shit Ame and Kronii got.
>>102694435
I think it's likely that if Mint had been accepted it would have been instead of Kiara, so she wouldn't have that support net unless Kiara applied again and got into Council.

>>102701949
>Vpoacho worker doing it for free still
You lost. Not just your fake narratives but also your income.
Close the tab and open the job app.

>>102701848
>do you think indies will still apply to corpos?
Yes, I do. Being indie is not always easy, especially at a certain level where you're not just straming anymore. You have to oversee sponsorships, merch, possibly events. If you employ people to help you need to vet them, because history teaches us that scammers are aplenty in this field. Not everyone is willing or capable to manage all this, and that's why agencies and corpos will always find someone willing to apply

>>102698427
>"Kiara" never makes a ship with Mori
>Mori is less tied to the company in her first year, doesn't create CHaDcast either, goes full retard on her own and leaves around the time of leangate
>Cover still pushes for the homos and tanks interest in HoloEN with the lack of streams from the girls
>Cover probably decides with the remaining talents an EN concert is not worth it, dials back on the idol aspect for the branch
>FWMC never gets hired, Gura's projects still get shut down because she's a retard, Ame still gets bored, talents don't move to Japan
>Ame, Gura and Fauna graduate, Mumei goes on a hiatus instead, Advent plays video games
If "Kiara" doesn't hard carry the entire branch on her back, EN just becomes ID 2.0 in this scenario, and I think "Kiara" would also graduate in the end, her idol dreams unfulfilled. I agree, it would be much worse.

>>102695437
Ina...
Ina ina...


(I don't know if this is the greatest joke on /vt/ or not, but it reminds me of the good old days where Ina... was a common response.)

>>102702916
I don't see any cons here

>>102695234
Damn, sisters really migrated to hololive

>>102696816
>your that whore
ESL-chama..

>>102695848
I feel like Mint checks all the boxes. Holo is still an idol company and plenty of holomems don't give two shits about being an idol.

>>102703386
Not sure why I threw in an extra word, but the message got across. If that bothered you enough to post about it, that’s on you

>>102703513
iirc what she said during stream, she had almost 0 content to show for herself. Probably a gamble cover wasn't ready to take

>>102703602(me)
as in 'streaming' content and experience

>>102690998 (OP)
Thank God
We don't need more Homo Cocksleeve in HoloEN

>>102703715
actually we do, they're the only one actually making content right now. All the others are afk

>>102703602
>>102703688
That's a fair point. I guess I'm looking at it as Mint today. Didn't she say she cut some stuff from the audition though? That could have been some idol content.

>>102703715
Niji forced sexpest collabs. If Mint came to Hololive she would have never interacted with them like Kiara

>>102693040
This

>>102703814
>>102703835
>Mass collab with the Homos in Wrestmania
>Collab with Axel and Kson on Twitch
Whores will be Whores

>>102704147
>Post Niji
>All with Doki involved who doesn't care about CGDCT
Mint doesn't care now but if she was spending all that time with Kiara instead she would only be interacting with cute girls.

>>102703715
You have Fauna the Unicorn Queen, lol

>>102704251
Everyone knew she was no longer unicorn friendly after her debut

>>102704267
literally no one in holo is unicorn friendly, they all despise incels

>>102690998 (OP)
how new are you newfriend

>>102703788
It wouldn't have mattered, they didn't even watch the audition.

>>102704333
True

>>102690998 (OP)
I'm glad, she's not a good fit with her vibe and sluttyness and male collabs.

Always got the impression that lazulight was kinda the rejected holo EN2s which is funny cause i ended up watching them far more than council.

But im not surprised holo EN1 didn't pick her. EN wave 1 each had a hyper talent they were proven in their pasts that got them picked. Art, audio video, music production, tri-lingual/idol background, content creation/memes.

>>102695137
Nerissa doesn't collab with holostars and ecelebs like rpr
Mint does

>>102693040
>mfw there's an alternative timeline out there where Mint got to skinwalk Gura and Sen passed away from cirrosis shortly after being rejected.

>>102704214
>>102704251
>>102704308
Nijihomo Trannies are biggest incels/femcels and Losers in life

>>102704461
are you retarded? A truck load of holo do exactly what you just said

>>102704524
Any holo who also collabs with people like rpr and axel is shit too.

>>102704550
??? yes but that wasn't the point

>>102704461
*collabs with the "brother" on your path*

>>102690998 (OP)

Thankgod she wouldn’t even be an ina tier streamer lmao

>>102699559
Idiot. I'm beyond thrilled that they got out and are still friends through everything. Stop using the worst possible interpretation to everything you hear, that's a sign of paranoid schizophrenia.

>>102691688
kinda, but it's not like there weren't any BIG red flags already out there before the first EN wave.

mostly the India branch getting renamed to EN then getting scrapped pretty quickly.

>>102704716
Nerissa never was unicorn friendly. Why are you upset NOW when she was collabing with males before Shiori was?

>>102691844
yea not really it'd be 4 autists + Mori.

Most of Myth's events was any of them pointing Ame towards a direction and letting her bulldose most of the grunt work needed to make it happen, and that was probably mostly Kiara (year 1 Mori was straight up garbage instantly trying to grift people to her RM)

>>102690998 (OP)
yeah? nene had to audition 5 times to get into fifth wave, so did kanata
lazy westerners ffs

>>102704716
dear anon, she was adopted into degenerate family
incest is normal

>>102691025
In a world where Mint took over Kiara. I think it would lessen the stress on Gura, as they would be both competing for the top spot. It's lonely, especially when you had useless genmates in "Myth".

>>102690998 (OP)
>Mint was rejected
>Shiori was accepted
Management wanted the NTR queen who would collab with males I guess.

>>102705376
just wait until VPending gets into the Star via Shiori nepo-hire, it'll be far worse

>>102705315
I'm not so sure about that. Mint is a lolicon and has a vaguely loli model now but she doesn't really play into it as much as Gura did/does - and I think that is a big part of why she became so popular (as well just the timing of Myth's debuts).

>>102693529
Ame's burn out came from doing shit staff were supposed to do, when staff came they kneecapped her into perms hell.

I blame omega for how fucked gen 1 & 2 was in the long run.

>>102699189
Fauna clearly want to be in Hololive........
to farm audience and grift

>>102691166
probably because vtubing and the idol industry are casting couches, and kiara is a lot better looking than mint

>>102705376
I don't see the issue. Shiori made it clear she was into NTR since the start. Novelites want it and she gives them content that makes them happy.

>>102705793
>Novelites wanted NTR the whole time
Ahh, that makes sense then

>>102690998 (OP)
Revealing details about the audition process is a surefire way of being blacklisted from hololive. She will NEVER be a holo.

>102706307
I don't think she wants to be one anymore.

>>102695268
Theres a really funny fan name that just naturally funnier than being mentally ill about other vtubers
Actual conversations can be had, and any time I get the urge to be nasty there's a whipping boy
t. different anon that comes here only for the rrats

>>102690998 (OP)
she still milks it though

>>102699438
Because this was 2020 Mint, who had no streaming experience and a mid audition.
She got better a year later when she auditioned for Niji.

>>102706994
Wait a minute... She's Pomu Rainpuff??!!

>>102708121
you think she's Hololive too?
of course not

>>102693259
Nothing stops you from applying to the same job over and over again except pride

>>102691668
Don't compare a pure soul like Haru Urara to this whore

>>102710419
Or lack thereof

>>102704716
>anon never had a brother

>>102690998 (OP)
this is her year (its as good as its going to get)
she has the opposite of good luck, she has woman

>>102690998 (OP)
She'll be right

OH MINT WOULD NEVER JOIN A CORPO
Fucking lying whore

>>102713429
who hurt you?

>>102696405
she could definitely take GG's spot outside of being Autofister + being a better singer. heck she could've just been the 5th member.

for advent, Mint operates in the same niche as the twins and could've beat them on their spot(s), or Shiori.

Council, she'll probably fight Bae or Mumei for a spot, all of council has their own strong niche so slim chances here, in hindsight she would've been a better pick over the 3 quitters.

Myth Kiara, Gura was already too much of a juggernaut to not get picked (counting her absenteeism she easily could've been a better choice but cover can't see the future.) Myth falls flat in its face without Ame, Ina could probably be replaced (we get no sana to if it happened lol), she would be better than year 1 Calli too but her rm was also too strong to beat out.

>>102691062
>Not a vtuber
>applys for EN1
>fails
>start vtubing as indie
>nijisanji EN1 auditions happen
>apply and passes
>debut as Lazulight
>becomes really popular
>witness corpo hell
>graduates and return as a successful indie
>no reason to join a corpo
>still misses having a group
>decides to use vshojo to quickstart a 3 person idol group
>witness corpo hell again
>we are here

>>102714944
moral of the story

>she needs a manager/husband

>>102702917
It still holds up even now when it's pretty common knowledge that like every third or fourth Holomem has or had a crush on Ina at some point.

>>102702565
On a similar note, I know girls in eSports isn't a common thing but I find it interesting how HoloEN only landed two FPS fans and neither of them had any interest in hitting up large events or even making shooters the bulk of their content.

>>102695437
Gura is (was) the most gfe??? Woaaaat

>>102714472
Beat fwmc????? Na

>>102714472
>Take GG's spot

I can't even imagine Mint RPing, let alone doing it convincingly like in Mori's TTRPG or ENReco, not to mention doing extreme bits like September. Even in group collabs I can't see her doing as well, since Pomu/Mint has been very milquetoast in them. She's more closer to CC/Raora in terms of presentation, while D*ki is closer to Gigi's (with a different focus on eSportsfaggotry)

>>102717133
>not to mention doing extreme bits like September
Not to discredit everything else GG has done, but while Gigi sang September for 8 hours straight, Pomu sang God Knows for 9 hours straight.

>>102705618
It's actually crazy that faggot omega was allowed to pozz hololive with chicks with boyfriends who didn't actually enjoy streaming, merely because he was a deranged fag who wanted to "own the unicorns" and promote stars. HOW. HOW do people who HATE vtubing culture keep getting into it? It boggles the fucking mind. Why can't they stay in their own lane?