Observing Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.youtube.com/@torioriane
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102697039

I love lewd waifu Mouse

poop

Froot is forcing me to goon

>>102702634
vshojo and gunrun do

Name one thing wrong with stealing from charity funds.

>>102702692
it gives women the ick

>>102702692
People might have died because they did not have that money.

Expectations for today?

>>102702692
they didn't give the money to ME

>>102702727
New bombshells that make things even worse

I like Silbur

>>102702600 (OP)
bake the thread properly next time

>>102702749
We already got one of those (the house)

>>102702727
Nothing crazy, just your 2 sec of glory drama leeching of anyone who had a relation with the company.
The most important people are the talents or anyone still under NDA.

Rape slime girls

>>102702778
Has anyone outside of here talked about that yet?

>>102702773
properly kill yourself

Good morning
Slept more than 3 hours for the first time this week.
Sleeping does wonders for the mood and my walls aren't melting anymore.
I hope younhave a good day too
<3

>>102702727
Camilla will speak.
Nyan is cooking something, as per Aethel.

>>102702692
Virtue depends on vice and evil in the world for it to display itself, both by contrast and in a literal way. Temperance only means something when gluttony is not only possible, but there are widespread examples of. There's no charity without poverty and suffering and illness, and so on. You could say almost any kind of evil or antisocial action will, if seen from a far enough vantage, always ultimately end in more goodness in the world. This kind of argument doesn't stop the DA in the district where Vshojo is incoperated from prosecuting Gunrun, but even still.

Getting raped by slime girls

>>102702727
Camilla is gonna say something, potentially about how she was the fourth monster girl
Nyan might post her nuke
I think anything else might wait until the company is actually dead

>>102702870
You forgot U-San

hope nothing crazy happens in the next 6 hours

>>102702815
I don't think so (it didn't even get that much attention here either) but if the rrats are true we will hear about it once the NDAs are de jure worthless

>>102702809
>>102702868
Both, in that exact order.

>>102702942
The true struggle sessions start early at night, yesterday everyone thought we wouldn't see anything until the lawsuit but look what happened

>>102702600 (OP)
nothing to see here officer. Just squatters and schizos

This would be Zen's first time at Comic Con right? I don't remember another one. Did she say she couldn't go because of VShojo?

IRONMOUSE IS NOT INNOCENT
ZEN IS NOT INNOCENT
MEL IS NOT INNOCENT
KSON IS NOT INNOCENT

THEY ALL KNEW AND KEPT GOING
THEY ABSORBED FUNDS THEMSELF TILL THE QUEEN HIT THE SELFDESTRUCT BUTTON

GUNRUN IS INNOCENT

>>102703090
Kill yourself MTD

I don't think Mel is involved unless the girls were unaware but I don't see how.
https://x.com/__R0XY__/status/1947948179066097712
https://x.com/catsgomao/status/1947952094092161489

>>102703090

>>102703090
Return the money, Justin

>>102703123
thats what I'm telling you
If she was involves at least connor wouldn't be following her
but everyone is still following her besides Nyan
And Nyan wasn't even following her while she was in vshojo

>>102703123
She is not, its a vshojo staff member astroturfing trying to shift blame

>>102703123
So do her and Apek just not talk about work in bed?

>>102703164 (me)
But we'll see, There needs to be more proof besides that digi guy

>>102703187
almost like the relationship was 5 fucking years ago anon

>>102703123
It is a bit weird how no one replied. I agree though, I think this is a good sign.

>>102703187
Best case scenario is he's a massive schizo and constantly gaslights her

>>102703090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_Ne3S5FAU

>>102703205
How was the relationship 5 years ago if they've lived together this whole time?

Nobody told me Nagi and Hotaru are live.
Nagi is playing DS3, nice.

>>102703123
Wait until we hear from everyone before forming a opinion, Geega said MTD was probably innocent and then Aethel blew the lid just a few hours later

>>102703234
where is the proof of that anon

>>102703249
>>102698174

>>102703249
Why was mel using apek's PC? Why is he selling his house right after she says she's moving?

>>102703084
oscar has only been around for this year, right? the walkarounds of yesteryears with haigai were all at major vtuber and anime conventions. I dont think its been 'vshojo banned her from going to comicon' so much as 'haigai wasnt going to it so it wasnt an option'

>>102703090
If they didn't pay the charity money from last year, it's almost certainly true they didn't pay the mouse either. They might have thought she's the most easy one to gaslight.
Kson might have assumed it was just the JP branch.
Zen probably had a bad feeling and left.
It's pretty common for otherwise decent people to keep their mouths shut out of fear.
Stealing charity money is an actual crime and not subject to NDA, so it makes sense she spoke up first.
Mel might be a little sus.

>>102703279
>>102703278
Hey anons, she has lived in Las vegas for the past few years. also the pc things was from 4 years ago

Do you think vshojo tried to push Mouse away from Connor?

>>102702765
do you think she called off today because of all the drama and releasing it. or is she preparing a another nuke to go off after nyan drops hers.

>>102702773
wait I just realized there's a slash missing in the subject lol my bad
>>102702839 (me)

>>102703305
yeah and Zen aswell

Mouse mercilessly euthanizes Gunrun

>My 3view oshi is now one handshake away from my exVShojo oshi
Good enough. Maybe one day.

>>102703321
both
I expect Silver Nuke in the next 24 hours

>>102703279
that pc screenshot is from like 3-4 years ago anon
given by the model in use

The house idk but until there is actual proof that shes involved i'm throwing her into the fire

I'm just curious posting that house shit even if its sold could can it count as doxxing?

>>102702942
Our friendly match against /swarm/ happens in almost exactly 6 hours, actually

>>102703333
Tell me about your 3view oshi, anon

>>102703345 (me)
>i'm throwing
i'm not throwing

>>102703321
she doesnt want to spend the whole day taking questions about a former employer she hasnt been with in 2+ years and her former coworkers who she hasnt talked to in 3+. she already said her piece.

>>102703363
didn't we have a new divegrass logo?

>>102703290
yea. its just that zen mentioned something about cons in her last stream. im guessing it was just incompetence by vsj.

>>102703363
they need to fix our name and change the line up or at least remove that one shit bag from it.

>>102703363
Imagine playing for a wolrd cup, but your country disappears while you're away.

>>102703385
since its friendlies I think it sues the same team as last league lol

For the next league this fall(i think) we dont have a manager so this is our swan song unless someone else wants to be the new manager for /xvsj+/

They don't hate vshojo, they hate the girls. You'll watch soon enough how they will go after the girls one by one now. Including the retarded Vei and silver still pandering to LE CHUD and le HOLO is being smeared.

>>102703375
She is very talented, funny, beautiful, demure and Korean.
She tangentially met Zen once, and since she's friends with one of the newcomers, I hope one day it will happen again so I will be able to shamelessly shill her here.

>>102703385
the main logo is changed but not the icon
>>102703404
idk if anything has been done in that regard, roster changes don't typically happen during off season but there's nothing against them. if nobody steps up to caretake then the team will be dead by vtl9 proper, anyway

>>102703363
Is Gun still on the team

>>102703489
shamelessly shill her anyway.

also i love fraiki.

>>102703469
You don't need to keep posting here anon, VShojo is under and nobody is going to pay you.

>>102703507
yes its the same team as last league

>>102703506
>talent freedom
oof

>>102703297
Is it actually legally charity money if it hasn't been donated yet? As far as I understand, it would not have been illegal for mouse to for example choose to donate a portion of the 50% to some other charity or do anything else with it really.

>>102703517
i like his posts, so fuck off

U-san has a space coming up in just over 15 minutes, presumably talking about Vshojo.
https://x.com/unnamednow00/status/1948723887111336080

>>102703507
Loutlot on goal or riot

>>102703547
she already talked/ tweeted about vshojo though

>>102703516
This thread already has enough off-topc spam as is. Maybe one day, maybe one day.
I also like Fraiki, anon, she's cute.

>>102703591
>she

>>102703538
well hey, now they have more freedom than ever

Someone please save the divegrass team

>>102703090
Anon, your medication

>>102703607
ok they

>>102703621
the same team that has gun as a player?
lol no
create new one with Vei, Nyan, Silver in it

>>102703612
kek

>>102703621
I WANT GUNRUNS HEAD AS THE BALL

>>102703638
>they

>>102703302
But why was it sold around the same time she moved to Japan tho

>>102703652
yeah i mean as /xvsj+/ so we keep our star lol

>>102703661
YES kek

>>102703607
>>102703638

>>102703662
it?

>>102703607
update your shitposts

>>102703547
>trusting usan to ever be on the same drama page as the rest of humanity
there's like 30% odds that shes talking about vshojo and 70% odds that a producer she is working with in an unreleased song project who also happens to be her upstairs neighbor, snapped and murdered his entire family six hours ago and she is apologizing because the blood dripped onto her work harddrive and it will cause an unfortunate delay in the song

>>102703664
separate things can happend at the same time anon. like you know , a company going under.

>>102703662
You're not really familiar with U-san are you?

>>102703711
I don't care niggger, there are 2 genders.

>>102703727
And U-san is a biological female newfag

>>102703727
you need to be 18 to use this site

>>102703652
Just delete gun and replace him with apple man and his huge nipples

>>102703727
and there are only 2 g's in nigger, you fucking clown

>>102703727
go back

- Zero Talents replies under Mel tweets
- Nobody warned her before Mouse nuke
- She "discover" the situation after the nuke

Do you really think she was not tied directly with the company management ?

Of course if you want to expose your company you avoid to drop hints to these people

>>102703577
and change name to GunRunning with the money

>>102703752
kek

Earliest case of MTD attacking vei and her fans https://youtu.be/qeGSTv8lzgc?si=C_Q3XJLgqfMOdAJj

Is it true that they still didn't include Vei, pink cat and silver in the 4x2 thread? if true then it seems incredibly petty and weird. Smells of Estrogen if you ask me.

>>102703829
What's so funny about that?

>>102703851
it's funny, cuz it's not true

>>102703801
being personally tied with company management or having been is quite different than embezzling charity money

>>102703862
It is.

>>102703834
who gives a fuck about that shithole

>>102703833
kek imagine

>>102703878
sure. just as much as zen if a biological female

left or right?

>>102703834
kek have they even gone through one thread since all this went down

>>102703834
sorry man, im not going there

>>102703923
right

>>102703923
unironically I prefer the right

Kson will apologize to Henya by naked Dogeza

>>102703801
> Zero Talents replies under Mel tweets
but roxy maiko did
> Nobody warned her before Mouse nuke
noone warned anyone else about the mouse nuke
> She "discover" the situation after the nuke
like you know everyone else

your arguments are paper thin and laughable, are MTD? Digi? Apex? put the fries in the bag bro your done

>>102703898
by how much got revealed its very likely to be him

why do you type like that

>>102703697
They have led an unfortunately cursed life...

>>102703965 (me)
>are you MTD? Digi? Apex? put the fries in the bag bro your done

forgot a word

>>102703907
U-san is a XX female unlike Clio.

>>102703801
Did Mel have sex with management?

https://youtu.be/0xVcr-q5e5M
Will pervert Mouse come back now?

who gives a fuck what someones gender is, i still want them to rape me

>>102703345
>that pc screenshot is from like 3-4 years ago anon
So from a time when apek had that house. It doesn't matter how old it is when the timing of the house being sold and her moving match. There's also a room for mocap in the photos. Like come the fuck on.

>>102703965
yeah if Roxxy replied I think Mel is in the clear

>>102703951
I forgive you kson

Imagine, anon, we could have had the industry's hottest they/themussy.
What could have been...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FROOOOOT PLEASE LET ME DRINK YOUR PEEEEEEEEEE

>>102703834
Lol you're right they didn't. Pretty much our worst tribalfags went there. They actually bought into the VShojo propaganda and hate Nyan, Vei, and Silver even now.

>>102704023
She didnt live in chicago anon

It has to be Digi, MTD or even fucking Apek constantly posting about Mel lol

>>102704045
she cannot read you no more bro

$1.25m Raised

>>102704060
still not going there, nice try though

>>102704023
Your rrat has been acknowledged, anon. No one is going to get the pitchforks ready until something concrete comes out.

>>102704070
Proof? If I was a streamer I would live somewhere I actually don't.

>>102704077
Why would Apek rrat about his own wife

Tomorrow my wife geega will have another sexy outfit

>>102703543
Yes it's charity money, companies enter into agreements for charities when they do fundraising. When you solicit donations using the name of a charity, those funds are pledged to the beneficiary. If you misappropriate the funds, that is charity fraud.

>>102704096
what if we use that money to rebuild a better vshojo instead, maybe a better vshojo that can help rising even more money in the future

>>102704108
>I would live somewhere I actually don't.
I would SAY
You get the point.

U-san's about to drop another nuke on X

>>102704111
they broke up a couple years ago, they settled with mel getting some equity of vshojo

Yep she's talking about Vshojo.

>U-san was invited

>>102704144
>>102704108
can you give me proof that she lived in that house? beside there is room for mocap?

>>102704060
Not even Nyan? damn

gunlun...

>>102704181
proof?

>>102704242
inb4 'pls be a girl only' and we'll get the enby traction

>>102704096
Tiltify has the chance to do the funniest thing.

>>102704245
She used apek's PC when he had the house. How does that happen without her being in the house?

>>102704270
and your counter proof?

>>102704285
that was 4 YEARS AGO

>>102704297
And? He had the house and she was in it. Where's the proof that she lives in Vegas?

>>102704313
where is the proof that she lives in chicago?

>>102704291
that a house owned in apek's name and listed as his primary residence, sold in may 2025, had a room used as a 3D studio in it

>>102704327
timezones

apek was railing your oshi while stealing charity money from the IDF

U-san is crashing out

>>102704327
She was streaming from apek's house that was in Chicago. How many more times do we need to repeat this until you prove that she didn't live there?
You can't just keep bullshitting while acting like you have proof when you don't.

>>102704347
Apek was railing Limes?

>>102704351
link?

>>102704351
But sprint qualifying is in 15 minutes...

>>102704346
>>102704340
so no actual proof, i accept your concession

>>102704340
>may 2025
Mel, this REALLY doesn't look very good

yeah she's repeating when she said about being indie. She hates being indie because it actually sucks not being under management.

U-san's crashing out on her fans

Gfuel have still not given anything.
Mouse better at least consider going back to GamerSupps

>>102704347
Mel is not my oshi, anon. But I don't appreciate you spreading this slander about anyone else's oshi in my presence.

>>102704372
but you're the one with literally no proof at all. You just keep saying she lived in Vegas but can't post anything that actually proves it.

>>102704351
Not really, they've been a lot more emotional before.

So what was this about,?
>I brought a huge amount of attention to Zen blocking Mouse and unfollowing her and Henya on Twitch.

>>102704394
for it to be slander it has to be untrue

>>102704368
https://x.com/unnamednow00/status/1948723887111336080
She's ranting about how hard it is to be indie and how frustrating the agency situation is.

>>102704386
hi lily

Usan defending agencies?

>>102704415
>admitting it's slander

MY HOBBY IS WATCHING MOVIES

>>102704431
It's not slander because it's true.

>>102704381
Mint and Doki (particularly Doki) has said very similar things. I get the feeling Doki doesn't like being seen as some kind of champion of indies and revolting against corpos.

>>102704415
not in japan

>>102704397
and you provided no proof that she lived in chicago

>>102704422
No, she's saying: "Stop being obsessed with the industry aspect, just let people make their business desicions, and watch streams".

>>102704381
More accurately, it sucks having to handle the indie paperwork instead of having the agency handle that, and devoting 100% of your effort to creative work.

>>102704422
They've said before that it annoys them when people say things like
>why do indies even want to join corpos, are they stupid?
because people don't understand how difficult it is to be an indie and have to deal with all of the admin yourself.

>>102704412
Don't worry about it. It doesn't matter now.

>>102704465
I did. You provided no proof she didn't.

>>102704381
mythic is very helpful with sponsors

>>102704440
o7
Thank you for your movies

>>102704507
That's not management.

>>102704129
In that case it would be very important to determine whether it was ironmouse doing the fundraising or vsj. If vshojo was responsible for the fundraiser, then obviously they are also responsible for making sure the money is donated to the charity. If it was ironmouse personally, then it would be on her. I know vshojo has partnered with IDF in the past, but was the most recent subathon one of those cases?

Personally I don't think the subathon was legally equivalent to a charity fundraiser, unless it was very clearly IDF-branded and advertised as a primarily charity thing.

U-san is a real one.

>>102704504
time zones, a house being sold and a clip from 2021 is no proof anon

>Thread is the fastest and most volatile its been in awhile
>Supposed Vshojo thread-watchers and mods are outed as being here and the company implodes
>MTD and Apek probably in hiding
>Porn doesn't get deleted anymore
Curious...

>>102704501
I just never heard about that and I'm curious what happened

>>102704487
Can't you just have a manager like Mouse, Michi, and Henya? Sorry U-san, but I won't support corpos anymore.

>>102704534
I'm in this screenshot

>>102704412
I won't put it past these faggots meddling behind curtain with Henya and Mouse by saying that Zen is leaving because she wants her investment back or something gamersupps bought her or any other lies to keep them from talking to her when she announced departure

>>102704560
hi mouse, i like your music

>Michi is texting U-san mid-rant
She is a good girl

>>102704544
they're busy deleting stuff in the catalog

U-san was approached in 2023 to join.

>>102704560
Love you Mouse

>>102704412
those same fags who started that shit are probably the ones talking about Mel

>>102704560
mousey, you should show pussy

>>102704534
Mouse is not even listening

bad actors everywhere, what a mess

99 problems and a bitch ain't one is the proper mindset

>>102704591
yeah 100%

>>102704576
They're such good friends, I hope we see Usan on the subathon

>>102704560
Mouse can you ask Silver for joint statement that you do not have beef so this thread can have some peace

>>102704482
Sorry, but nope. I will continue being obsessed with the industry aspect. It is intimately intertwined with the space from the very beginning.

mtd and gunrun are trying to throw mel under the bus cause they know shes implicated

>>102704560
hello jeff chicken

>>102704535
How is literal proof not proof? You said she lived in Vegas and have zero proof so that definitely can't be true.

Here's her posting a screencap with Chicago timezone showing in 2024.
https://x.com/ProjektMelody/status/1797724265611178233
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1797574124669481116

Considering how fucked up U-san's life has been it's amazing they find the energy to carry on.

>>102704549
I'm presuming that the level of support that U-san needs for 3D concerts would require more connections than a single manager would realistically have.

I can't wait for the real info to drop and you're all gonna regret ever defending your "precious" Mel.

>>102704637
It's transparantly the same tactic they tried to do keep everyone seperated and keep the members that left from having any contanct with anyone. It's probably even the same people trying to push the ideas in these threads as were posting that Vei is going to OTK or whatever years ago.

>>102704682
Then wait for your info, don't waste your time shitting up the place.

You gays have no patient, if Mel is related to this shitshow we will find out about it soon, there's no way Vei, Aethel and Nyan would miss the chance to make fun of her if it was the case

>>102704654
Not living in the shit whole called sea anymore helps. on top of that Having the Jp citizenship helps too

>>102704650
that is not proof anon she lived in Chicago anon

>>102704715
It's more proof than what you have of her living in Vegas.

bro what is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgqJmfjo2uw

>>102704734
its not , i accept your concession though

>>102704700
if they manage to mainstream the mel narrative it takes a lot of heat off of them imagine the scandal if mel is successfully implicated in this it'll take over the whole story, the problem is it might work cause there's a lot of circumstantial evidence

Are Froot and Katie still friends?

>>102704709
yes and Roxxy who pretty much knows everything wouldn't have replied to her sending her some love

>>102704707
Nah bro, you will see once these NDA's are gone.

>>102704782
Probably not

>>102704756
It is until you post proof of the opposite.

>>102704549
It might also be a corporate structure. If you join a corpo, they have responsibilities (assuming they're legit). If you hire a manager, you have the ultimate responsibility, so you still have to review the paperwork. The corporate structure allows people to push off that responsibility to other employees (the company lawyers, accountant, etc.) For example, Doki needs to spend a lot of time on things like this even though she hired a lot of people to handle these things for her, because she needs to review and sign off on things.

>>102692381
>2Views and vtweeters who constantly used her as the point of attack about the auditions. Mostly because she was pushing for it and is often seen as a champion of the smaller guy, but of course it is also coming from schizos and spergs who probably don't know or care about that and just want to harass her or somebody.


Ah so people you wouldn't normally see if you only watch the streams, gotcha

>>102704769
>the problem is it might work cause there's a lot of circumstantial evidence
yeah if your retarded

>>102704782
After nearly driving Katie to suicide? I highly doubt it

>>102704750
get new material danny boy

>>102704794
>you will see once

Read my post again.

This kinda fucking boring

I never trust a fellow Jew

>>102704797
no it isnt, thank you for your concession though

>>102704019
>who gives a fuck what someones gender is
most people on this board

>>102704829
They're getting sidetracked by their own emotions

>>102704839
Yes it is. Where's the proof that she lived in Vegas? Right now you're conceding that she didn't.

>Nijisisters kept attacking U-san
The usual

>>102704549
When you hire a manager you now need to manage your manager.

>>102704858
I guess. They also speaks quite slowly.

>>102704814
Katie should leanr to not be a sex pest, that should help her avoid that

>>102704862
where is the proof she lived in chicago? the centeral timezone has a lot places anon.

>>102704769
How the fuck does that take any heat off of them? It makes the situation even worse for them.

>>102704750
I thought zen was supposed to be a guy? wtf the catalog was wrong again?

so was the fallout between Filian and Mel because she didn't join Vshojo in 2023?
i could see her reading the contract and noping the fuck out even after Gunrun helped her move from Canada

>>102704890
That timezone doesn't contain Vegas. What happened to her living in Vegas? Suddenly not a thing anymore?

>>102704904
initially a couple but the woman left, the one piloting now is the guy

>>102704813
For Froot, the narrative of an insane anti and a stalking ex ending up in front of a couple hundred thousand people because Asmon uncritically bought it. That's all it takes. You really can't overestimate how much people hate women and how easily they will shift all blame onto them at the slightest excuse.

>>102704902
Woman involved = Woman's fault to the public. And she does porn so it would be even worse.

So let's really be honest here. How many of you are surprised that this dude turned out to be an narcissistic sexpest?

>>102704715
it's pretty strong circumstantial evidence

>>102704890
Vegas is not the in Central time zone anon. Neither is Dover, Delaware.

>>102704946
0

>>102704904
No, the current Zentroon is still a man. This was like almost a decade ago when he still had a girlfriend.

>>102704946
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warning_colouration

>>102704937
>HERE'S THIS OLD ZEN CLIP THAT PROVES SHE'S A MAN
>FEMALE VOICE EVERYTIME
nice try catalog retard

>>102704946
Bros need to learn to take pictures.

>>102704873
I guess they're lucky in that they have proven managers they already trust.

>>102704801
If this is true then I can't wait for "Insert Vshojo 2's name here" with most of the members who were in Vshojo before it exploded.

>>102704944
Are you stupid? If a woman is involved everyone will minimize her part in anything. Even right now you're all saying "if it's true well she's just dumb and didn't know :)"

>>102704946
>come on Silver, let a nigga hit

>>102704930
yeah and it also doesn't mean she lives in chicago

>>102704940
all while having proof of the accuser being the one that actually cheated and was abusive, but still doesn't prevent them from blaming women

>>102704997
you don't live in reality.

>>102704946
Why are you so obsessed? Mel has done a lot more wrong then him, just wait.

>>102704601
It says listener right there, anon.

>>102704946
>So let's really be honest here. How many of you are surprised that water is in fact wet?

Holy fuck that's dark

>>102705013
It does when there's proof of her streaming from apek's PC in Chicago.

>>102704997
lmao
during moonmoon's cheating fiasco he received barely any shit for it

>>102704998
Reminds me of this

usan was going to kill themselves because of nijisister hate after leaving niji

>>102704952
its not
>>102704949
while true. still does not mean she lived in chicago anon

i accept your concessions though, maybe you guys should worry about paying back your debts instead of astroturffing eh?

How are Nijisisters so brutal
U-san nearly toasted herself

>U-san
>Katie
>Zen
>she
>she
>she
damn, you bunch are really delusional, aren't you

>>102704452
While she personally chafes under management, Doki made a pretty balanced take on the pros and cons of joining a company versus being an indie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsnI3zuUbTY

>>102704981
Warning coloration is only on poisonous/venomous creatures. On non venomous ones it's a mating display.

>>102705037
I mean she's not in the space, or at least I don't see her

Did we ever find out about how Seth got 3am blacklisted with vsj? Did he just slander them or was it an order to the talents from the top?

>>102705047
no proof that it was in chicago and from 4 years ago.
Nice proof anon , is mel secretly a reptile overlord as well?

Niji and Holo need to go too.

>>102705025
Are you a feminist or something? The public will always blame a man over a woman.

>>102705050
I don't know anything about that, but if he said it was mutual it's pretty easy to get away with it especially as a big name streamer.
Why would anyone defend Vshojo operatives over a vtuber?

>>102705059
Austin, Texas is in the Central time zone.

>>102705103
>and Holo

>>102705093
You're saying he wasn't toxic with his behavior?

>>102705111
Kill yourself Blackjack

>>102705111
>are you a feminist
tourist, leave

>>102705101
Prove that he didn't live in Chicago then. All of his addresses show he lives in Chicago.

>>102705061
They're rabid, they tried to harass Geega because she said Graduating isn't that big of a deal

>>102705100
no but we'll probably find out soon

>>102705058
>>102705061
Apparently, the JP side really hated them for being biologically female in a male gen.

>>102705087
>U-San
XX female
>Katie
XXY intersex
>Zen
probably a couple

>>102705103
This unironically will trigger a huge shift and might bring more people out who have been fucked by other corpos

>>102705117
> texas
Zen cucked Apex is that why he is so mad?

>>102705158
>XX female
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

>>102705129
I'm saying he's peacocking.

>>102705111
kill yourself blackjack

>>102705087
You shitposters really need to do your research. If you want to play the culture war angle then you should be getting annoyed at anons referring to U-san as they because U-san is a biological woman, but considers themself non-binary. Of course you don't know this because you don't watch vtubers and just come to /vt/ to push your political brainrot.

>>102705111
>The public will always blame a man over a woman.
The public elected a pedophile rapist as the president of the US

>>102705125
Yes

>>102705087

>>102705133
>>102705178
Niuce boogeyman you got there

>>102705193
stop arguing nigga.

>>102705172
Yeah, I know, and you're right. I just love to compare people dyeing their hair to being venomous.

>>102705147
Never disputed that , but one thing this anon pointed out >>102705117

are you mad that you got cucked by Zen ? like hard ntr ? did they send you pictures of melody getting fucked by a fat dragon cock?

>Shitter shits
>Retards are replying
You are the real reason why VShojo went bankrupt. Imagine how much they had to pay for all those (You)s you gave to these kids.

>>102705193
And? The presidential election isn't a dispute between a man and a woman.

>>102705211
it's more embarassing to act like blackjack when you're not him

>>102705125
Multiple girls left from problems with management.

>>102705238
God I wish they did

Let me know when Apek and MTD start doxxing talents. I hope Geega is hot

>>102705238
NTA and not hating on anyone but I'll allow it

This thread is so full of tourists that they dont know Usan/Yugo is a woman who used to pose as a man...

>>102705153
I'm worried the people in the know won't consider it important enough to reveal among all the other crazy shit that they were doing

>>102705171
It's a girl who wanted to be ENBY and smoked for a deeper voice. That's literally it.

>>102705238
So you're just coming up with all of this headcanon to cope with the fact that she did live in Chicago. It's pretty funny to see how delusional you fags are.

>>102705287
The moment Geega gets doxxed both Apek and MTS mysteriously die by suicide

vshojo mention

>>102705295
this is the most tourist post i have ever seen in my life

I haven't watched U-san's streams before, but listening to this makes me think they're a boring streamer.

Which posts did Kson delete and why exactly?

Don't worry U-san, VShojo didn't care about trifling things like profit.

Hey guys check dm

>>102705335 (me)
*MTD

the worst part about all this is the lack of oppurtunities to post these photos in the future, surely we can still do something with them right?

>>102705371
OH GOD

>>102705275
>problems
Differences regarding company direction.

>>102705287
Geega isn't hot that's why she has to over compensate with her "intellect".

>>102705331
how bad did you cry when you saw the video of melody getting bred by Zen? all that hot cum leaking out of her hole? melody begging for zens child?

i accept your concession

That's all cool and all, but, god, all those lonely scene girls in U-san's comments... Some of them are not fat and quite hot too.
If only they weren't all gay and/or insane.

>>102705253
it literally was, Kamala vs Trump
and then again Hillary vs Trump

>>102705371
They did WHAT?
Holy fuck, that's so evil.

>>102705398
Stay delusional.

>>102705394
What intellect?

>>102705371
Hey
THIS IS JUST A DICK PIC

>>102705351
I mean, a story about how a company fucked all your friends over with a tangent on how you almost killed yourself isn't exactly a fun topic.

>>102705165
lmao

>>102705386

>>102705401
Anon you cannot fix them

The revenue share vshojo offered seemed extremely good for U-san.

>>102705414
The intellect to always be retroactively correct.

>>102705404
Dude, is this really worth your while? Convincing 1 asshole arguing in bad faith?

>>102705371
This was really hard to watch yesterday, I haven't watched a lot of Aethel but those screams of rage, oof

>>102705412
Stay crying, baby bitch

>>102705412
was zens dick bigger than yours?

>>102705404
So Kamala and Hillary claimed Trump raped them? That's news to me. I thought it was a presidential election race.

>>102705421
Not the topic, just the way they're expressing themself.

Pro corpo anti here, you should join us and go full indie. Anti every corpo that isn't talent owned.

>>102705438
The revenue share being good is worthless if it doesn't get paid out.
Too good to be true.

>>102705467
they didn't, but plenty other women did
god knows what he did on Epstein's island

>>102705470

>>102705447
>muh bad faith

Remember when we still dreamed?

>>102705472
Vshojo could have easily been profitable with their revenue split if gunrun wasn't a useless fucking retard blowing all their funds on dumbass shit

>>102705470
Yes, I'm actively praying for each corpos downfall at this point

>>102705363
Kson responded to a pointless reply from a hater, but then realized it was meaningless and deleted it.

>>102705493
So it wasn't a dispute between a man and a woman then. It's about time you stopped posting.

Why is someone responding to posts about Mel by describing their goon fantasy? Is that what this board is now?

>>102705511
they just used vtubing to scam people, they were never honestly interested in it.

>>102705472
The point is that when Vei said the contract cuts were awful she compared it to an agency like Mythic who doesn't provide management and not orgs like Holo Niji or Phase that do provide management.

>>102704077
or digi trying and failing to try to get back at her for you know it being exposed of him being a shit bag.

>>102705532
that's not the point, a society that "always takes the woman's side" would not elect a pedophile rapist like Trump into office

>U-san's fans basically saved her form joining VShojo
BASED insane sexually confused mostly Asian girls

Stop arguing about unrelated shit like politics. When does Camila usually go live?

Also sex with monster girls.

>>102705502
Turns out this was true in ways we couldn't have imagined...

>>102705371
*loud aethel noises*

>>102705238
>did they send you pictures of melody getting fucked by a fat dragon cock?
Unfortunately no. Can someone please send them to me now?

What other orgs has Geega advised?

MALE VSHOJO GEN CONFIRMED
U-san was supposed to be a part of it

Now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that Silver whining about VShojo having internal performance measurement and management wishing she wasn't a PR nightmare was the EN equivalent of Nazuna complaining about how the evil VShojo wanted to steal her fanbase with raids, right? At least in its inanity and missing the point.

>>102705573
That's literally the point you claimed to be making, retard. Electing Trump has nothing to do with anything.

>>102705601
sent :)

>>102705535
stay mad that you cucked by a texan dragon apex

I'd quite like these threads (and any /vt/ threads) to descend into arguing about burger politics. All of your parties and politicians are exactly the same, there is no difference between them. Fuck off.

>>102705502
Even calling it the Golden Age we had no idea just how good we had it

Imagine if they had gone through with debuting a full male gen with multiple ex-Nijis

>>102705606

>>102705607
makes sense

>>102705617
it does, you claimed society is ultra progressive and always sides with women, but I stated otherwise with the Trump situation

>>102705626 (me)
to not descend*

>>102705617
Yes Trumps election means it's legal to own women as sex slaves in the US. What an amazing "point".

>>102705609
>Silver whining about VShojo having internal performance measurement
They probably just posted twitchtracker of all talents on their discord.

>>102705606
She did international logisitics for a South Korean semiconductor manufacturer.

>>102705636
2024 was the golden age, much like other golden ages they completely collapse

>>102705451
i still think we havent heard the worst stuff he wasnt willing to say YET

>>102705606
She told 3am to drop all their 0 view male friends

>>102705609
I like Silver, I think she was right to leave, but I agree. She can't talk about the bad things, but she's clearly hurt by things that are partially her fault.

>>102705661
amazing strawman you got there

>>102705679
Oh definitely

>>102705688
It's your exact argument. Trump elected = everyone in society hates women.

>>102705680
wtf, I love Geega now

>>102705679
its why i have a feeling that mtd wasnt only sexpesting the three that left. and why mouse has been less lewd over the past few years

>Zen helped U-san too
Zen's a good person, no matter the gender

I got this from a drama discord about mtd you know what I can see all of this being true

"it's true. he'd share people's personal info at vshojo events because he's a drugged out drunkard that snorts every dollar he ever made into his fucking cunt nose. he also was close personal friends with that twat that ran msm talent and they colluded to squeeze out other vtubers that collabed with vshojo girls with bad rumors about them so seth could slide his talents from msm into those collab slots. he also roofied chicks at his parties. he's a fucking twat and i hope he ends up a goddamn stain on some asphalt.

"I ain't fucking krimbo, i'm someone else with an axe to grind. that slimey twat made a lot of enemies and it's gonna catch up to him one day

"people are free to believe me or not, i'm mostly fucking venting shit i've been holding onto for years and the only reasons I dont name specific names is it'd hurt some innocent people who just want shit to go away. I will say avoid this fucking guy and never drink anything he hands you at a party."

"i ain't saying that happened to nyan so i wanna be clear about that, but i know multiple chicks that went to 2 different vshojo parties and all of them got fucked up after drinking stuff mtd gave them. one of them was nearly cornered by the slimey fuck until a male vtuber cut in, got her an uber, and got her out of there. fuck that guy the creepy rapist ass motherfucker"

>>102705705
no, my argument is Trump elected = society is not a feminist communist #MeToo dystopia like conservaties like to claim

>>102705748
Zen is one of the GOATs of vtubing. She has helped to many people in the scene and still does.

>>102704440
Wholly expecting this post to get deleted because porn on sfw board

Didn't stop me from saving for future reference though B)

>>102705645
lehman brothers unironically had a pretty big investment advisory board when it fell

>>102703923
less detail = cheaper

>>102705763
So your argument is Trump elected = everyone in society hates women
Reminder that the original claim was that if there's a woman to blame everyone will do it.

>>102705758
That guy has posted here as well.

>>102705758
Thanks, fictional character written by ChatGPT

usan telling tribalfags to watch streams and go back to being happy

>>102705772
True, he's a good dude

>>102705809
yeah, women always get blamed when there's a cheating scandal

>>102705758
Actually, come to think of it, those are in fact old /vsj+/ posts that are being reposted in your drama discord.

>>102705758
If MTD really roofied people then I'm afraid at least one talent got hit and we'll have another big trash fire to discuss soon.

>>102705758
Completely believable and explains why South side was still angry at some of the ex msm who benefited from the collab slot shuffle and didn't speak out about MSm

>>102705818
You're not getting out of this, MTD.

>>102705838
true i am just glad that they got mel away from apex that texan zock must be massive

>>102705861
my money is on camila

Vei’s probably gonna ditch for a few weeks isn’t she?

one of you kind retards made this one for me, ill surely have to find uses for it still

>>102705868
Yuvi punching the air wishing it was her instead
Me punching the air wishing it was me instead

Just saying. You don't escape the curse. You can't escape it.

>>102705846
So you are claiming that everyone in society hates women. You're mental.

>>102705850
Probably one of the other South side 0 view males who were involved in spreading the msm drama

Every time someone says something about Zentreya's cock I just think about Yuvi calling it the "zock".
That mind really does wonders.

Aaand now she is crying and crashing out

>>102705880
The swarm will eat him alive.

>>102705758
At least NOW it can't get worse anymore.

>>102705861
so THAT'S where all the charity money went, to buy a victim's silence

>>102705932
I kinda lost the plot, to be honest.

>I can't believe this person is now calling out my fans
>they just wanted to support my passion to sing
wtf? What is u-san talking about here? They suddenly became very emotional at this point.

>>102705932
You might be describing anyone with this post

>>102705664

>>102705881
If she streams now there is going to be so many annoying people in chat asking the same dumb questions related to the Vshojo problem. It’s best if she waits for the drama to fade.

>>102705947
Michi should do weekly tarot card streams.

>>102705947
It will literally get worse. There's a lot more Mouse can't talk about yet.

>>102705966
if it wasn't obvious she is not the most stable person

>U-san says that a lot of her friends are now at their lowest
Man it doesn't seem that bad currently but it sounds way harsher behind the scenes...god why did Gun do this...

>>102705908
ae you retarded? who the fuck is claming that? the claim is that people, especially men, always side against women when it comes to cheating scandals, you disingenious retard

>>102705966
Hard to tell, they're surely were ranting about VShojo just now, with how everyone got betrayed, but this comment seemed a little bit out of context, maybe the sisters?

Riku wouldn't have done this

>>102705984
Yeah I feel like Mouses will be the biggest nuke
not in terms of impact but how wide spread it will be since shes the biggest name in the normie space

>>102706025
You are claiming that.

>>102706032
You're right, Riku would have paid half of the talent their deserved money and then weaponized those talents against the leavers.

>>102705932
They're kind of going all over the place

>>102705606
She advised her org on GTA RP then it got too annoying for anyone to want to interact with her.

>>102706016
Reminds me of how Aethel mentioned that many of the girls haven't been indie in years. The jump into the business side of commissions, sponsors, events, etc is going to be rough for some of them.

>>102705932

Just wait until it comes out that MTD and Seth were both puppets of Geega and are have been masterminding the vtuber scene and controlling it's blacklists from behind the scenes

>>102705758
[Citation needed]

>>102706067
>and then weaponized those talents against the leavers
That's literally what Gunrun did, lol

>>102706016
Mouse said she has been depresses for 2 years, you cant really see on stream

holy SHIT hime on top

>>102705949
can't be a victim if you got payed for it

>>102706101
Riku and Gunrun should link up

>>102706101
Actually true, now that I think about it. I wasn't considering the 3 OG leavers.

>>102706106
you absolutely can

>>102706106
Is that why we lost degen Mouse?

even despite all this I really can't get over my distaste of silver- the only thing worse than someone you like being wronged is someone you dislike being publicly wronged because you have to admit "yeah, that's just actually fucked up and undeserved"

>>102706183
we lost degen mouse because gunrun said it might "hurt the brand"

>>102705606
Al-Qaeda

>>102706106
Yes you can
If you recall, Mouse started saying "I'm having a rough time" more and more often, since 2023.

>>102706016
Imagine if he faces justice and he enters his cell only to realize that his cellmate has a large Ironmouse tattoo...
Not wishing any sort of violence on him, but that would be very amusing karma.

>>102706106
>started hanging out with Connon about 2 years ago
>has been depressed for 2 years
hmmmm

One of you losers told me that Mata revealed she'd moved in with Juni as soon as she joined Zen's stream yesterday. I've now been tricked into watching like 15 minutes and hearing Ruben.

>>102705758
Proof? Just sounds like women who can't take accountability for their actions so they wanna take advantage of this situation and throw people who don't deserve it under the bus.

>>102706224
>Connon

>>102706224
4 years ago, check your facts retard

>>102706183
It did for me
So yeah it could be at least one of the causes.

>>102706214
and having literal whore Mel was not hurting brand?

>>102706143
Go on Anon
tell them why you didn't consider them

>>102706224
>started hanging out with Connon about 2 years ago
Retard.

It sucks that this place was the nicest it's ever been with the drama drops and now that the drama is slowing down temporarily everyone is choosing to be schizo again

Is it never worth selling your soul to a corp. Hire a manager don't let managers hire you.

>>102706276
vei should still be hated

>>102706227
Be nise to the man with the luscious locks

>>102706227
There was also some other woman on her stream yesterday, Ayuki or something?

>>102706227
https://www.youtube.com/live/Luzcfe2o-Og?si=MX1Xq9DZbhxjer1g&t=5353

>>102706254
They met 4 years ago on Lewdcast but didn't get really close until she started getting really popular 2 years ago so he could leach her Twitch following.

>>102706276
It's been a long time, no offense to the 3 girls.

>For what doth it profit a man, to gain the whole world yet forfeit his soul?

>>102706337
thats her Tech support

I was joking when I said Vshojo's revenue goes to fund death squads in third world countries.
But this clown ass reality makes me fear might as well.

>>102706224
Yeah Connon sucks, not like Connor Who she started hanging out with in '21

>Captcha: Y4GO0

...but what kind of a person calls stealing raising money?

>>102706344
>until she started getting really popular 2 years ago
Fucking tourist she has been a near 5 view since 2021

>>102706283
This thread will be a total schizo den when all the drama is finally over

>>102706373
You didn't realise the IDF was the other one?

Man I tell ya what, dang ol’ Gunrun, man, lyin’ to them talents, stealin’ from ‘em, abusin’ ‘em, turnin’ ‘em on each other, man, I tell ya what man, hope he burn in dang ol’ hell, man, that no-good sum’bitch, I tell ya hwhat.

>>102706227
If you wanna hear Juni on Mata's stream, Zen did a stream the other day with Heavenly and Mata where Mata stepped away to buy something and put Juni on the mic under the guise of her "normie roommate". They were playing Peak then too.

>>102706414
Yep

thread
>>102706441
>>102706441
>>102706441

What's Camila's usual time?

>>102706447
her usual time is when im done with her ;)

>With the last of the strength in my heart, I burn it all
She wasn't kidding.

>>102706414
Damn wight, cowboy?!! I hope he gets his punishment he deserved, justice wiww be deawt soon and the *boops your nose* tawent weceive ^w^ theiw due compensation.

Holy fuck, this hurts.

>>102706408
Yeah I'm such a tourist yet I knew about Lewdcast when they first met and she was acting all stupid in front of him about his voice. You really want me to pull CCV stats?

>>102706224
>>102706344
>monkesperg
>ESL

>>102706339
You're a good man

>>102704650
Isnt the issue with that that Mel and Kson posted this on the "same" day? So Mel actually posted this 24 hours after Kson did, it wasn't a live reaction. Plus, it was 3 minutes before the full 13 or 14 hour mark that would separate them if she WAS in Chicago, posting it the exact minute Kson did.