Thread 102708374

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I can't tell who is right and wrong about Nimi's marriage announcement and how it'll affect her vtubing career.

first and sexier

I love you guys, that schizo keep seething at me saying i'm the baker but i'm just too slow lol

>>102708160
>recently-ish debuted 4view
You cucklings have to be retarded, there aint no way

Is it really business yuri or do they like each other?

>>102708430
Shiori still has higher average CCV than she did before male collabing, so realistically chances are nothing will change

>>102708468
I think that's sarcasm anon

>>102708468
>reading comprehension

>>102708479
>male collabing
>getting married
These are not the same

>>102708479
Shiori was craking 8Ks before the Fes

Mococo or Biboo gold

TWO Kronii threads???

>>102708447
Why are people on a waiting room when the relay is still happening?

>>102708479
>>102708528
>Shiori still has higher average CCV
lol

>>102708538
Welcome to /inf/2

>>102708528
February

>>102708538
>/pol/ faggots
State of this board man

>>102708479
Does she? She seems about the same

>>102708556
Cover is absolutely fine with Hololive talents streaming with indies. FWMC did it just fine with coyote and Milky.

So this site will just forever be stuck on Nimi seethe?

>>102708430
It not wrong to congrats someone marriage, it her choice,as fan we should respect it by silently cancelling membership and shelving her merch

>>102708634
Im afraid so

>>102708606
It's been /vt/coded since Kiara

>>102708479
Her SC dropped.

>>102708631
The problem's just that a lot of indies are trash and or politicized tards

>>102708646
Post merch

So... Is it this guy?

The amount of mintbegging I'm seeing right now is off the charts. I mean legitimately it's going into the stratosphere everywhere, insane amount of "YAGOO PLS LET HER SUISEI IN" type of comments and others talking about how Cover should do a special one off rule just for her

>>102708374 (OP)
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>>102708634
The news are barely a few days old. Give it some time, then she'll be ignored more often than not and go the way of ERB who no one talks about really.

I feel like holofans have grown more radicalized lately, not just beacuse vshojo was exposed as targeting them and their oshis but also beacuse the one takeaway while the entire industry burns is that they can just watch some karaoke relay and have fun without having to hear a word about it.

>>102708634
/vt/-approved kiara schizo

>>102708725
It's people trying to virtue signal while ignoring the fact that she wants to create her own shit

>>102708374 (OP)
Recent Clip Numbers
>>102399989
>>102399999
>>102400009

>>102708669
Pretty fucking hard even
Shortly after her first homocollab there was a surge of performative show of support
Lasted 2 or 3 weeks
Was getting above 150K
Now it's rare for her to crack 100K and she average 50K

>>102708479
nyanners................

>>102708634
This used to be the Nimi thread, and all of that relied on her being "CGDCT Prime", what did you think was gonna happen

>>102708374 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>85,815: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>39,605: Miko (Hololive)
>28,594: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)
>28,322: Okayu (Hololive)
>27,778: Marine (Hololive)
>25,896: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,325: Toya (Nijisanji)
>24,138: Flare (Hololive)
>22,638: AZKi (Hololive)
>20,554: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>18,019: Calliope (Hololive)
>17,139: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>16,313: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,125: Korone (Hololive)
>13,700: Ririca (Indie)
>13,525: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,983: Botan (Hololive)
>12,463: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,940: Mio (Hololive)
>11,781: Nimi (Indie)
>11,410: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,067: Watame (Hololive)
>11,051: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,043: Kaela (Hololive)
>10,968: Clio (Phase Connect)
>10,769: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,665: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,557: Vivi (Hololive)
>10,329: Ren (Nijisanji)

>>102708802
I don't think she necessarily wants to do that. She just wants a proper corp backbone so she can do idol stuff inside of that.
It's not like she insists on creating something new herself, if she was able to go join a proper corp like holo she'd take that offer and go for it.

>>102708767
Does ERB even stream anymore?

>>102708194
>song is about two ruffians believing in taking money from the rich and nobly giving it away
>lost in the sauce they don't realize that when people who they rob run out of money, the entire thing goes tits up
>they end up the victims of people that venerated them, torn apart by the public
damn, the guy who tried to tie Ash Again to the current situation should take a look at this shit

>>102708841
>h-h-huuuuuuu let me seethe at huuuuuuuu kronii for 7 hours

>>102708856
JUL 2025 GOLD
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab [21]
>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show [26]
>3) 38,815: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru survey [26]
>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream [22]
>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O. [31]
>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive [41]
>7) 48,220: Pekora (hololive) NoePeko Tanabata [27]
>8) 60,006: Subaru (hololive) SubaKoro [23]
>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise [34]
>10) 63,121: Pekora (hololive) Important Announcement [25]
>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [23]
>12) 40,233: Marine (Hololive)
>13) 76,277: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)
>14) 61,994: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>15) 42,629: Miko (Hololive)
>16) 43,835: Laplus (Hololive)
>17) 137,740: Pekora (Hololive)
>18) 83,056: Miko (Hololive)
>19) 38,477: Marine (Hololive)
>20) 51,586: Marine (Hololive)
>21) 64,596: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>22) 46,099: Kson (VShojo)
>23) 83,275: Pekora (Hololive)
>24) 85,815: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
6x: nijisanji
15x: hololive
2x: indie
1x: VShojo

> PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Subaru, Miko, Marine
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Rai, Yubari Rei, Hololive, Shiina, VOLTACTION, Tsukasa Tenkai, Laplus, Kson, Nijisanji

mood is ruined because I had to go for a walk and skipped some of the karaokes…

>>102708479
Her average CCV is more or less the same with a slight drop of few hundreds, less than a thousand
>June: 4.5K
>May: 4.2K
>April: 4.5K
Mar:
>Feb: 4.6K
>Jan: 5.2K
>Dec: 4.7K
She had notably higher CCV in Jan but Jan was NY-buffed month

>>102708889
>12 days break
>male collab
>ollie collab
it's as if she didn't stream at all

>>102708882
JUL 2025 SILVER
>1) 102,743: AZKi (hololive) 3D LIVE 7th Birthday
>2) 61,521: Saba (indie) 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS
>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6
>4) 45,619: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>5) 39,259: Ex Albio (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>6) 99,759: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari w/ Vivi
>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7
>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>9) 40,854: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>10) 41,691: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #8
>11) 30,375: Kanae (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>12) 37,921: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>13) 55,190: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14) 54,800: Miko (Hololive)
>15) 41,106: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16) 43,197: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>17) 41,915: Miko (Hololive)
>18) 39,499: Miko (Hololive)
>19) 33,331: Korone (Hololive)
>20) 44,935: Roa (Indie)
>21) 49,785: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>22) 44,719: Rito (Nijisanji)
>23) 33,101: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24) 39,605: Miko (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
7x: hololive
12x: nijisanji
5x: indie

> PER STREAMER
4x: Miko
3x: Kuzuha
2x: Maimoto, Kagami
1x: AZKi, Saba, Kagami, Ex Albio, Pekora, Tsukasa Tenkai, Kuzuha, Chiroru, Kanae, Korone, Roa, Tsukasa Tenkai, Rito

>>102708479
Why are you still seething at shiori?

>>102708869
Why am I getting involved now

>>102708430
Almost like you need to wait and see what happens rather than trying to read the tea leaves of shitposting and random guessing.

>>102708901
just got back too, who is singing now

Saba ticked to 1.31m about an hour ago
She has now officially passed her former daisenpai

>>102708933
JUL 2025 BRONZE
>1) 82,156: Marine (hololive) Subaru collab
>2) 31,577: Leos (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>3) 34,900: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>4) 44,544: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>5) 35,352: Miko (hololive) prophecy
>6) 61,618: Rena (nijisanji) SMC Gumi 6th anniversary
>7) 38,176: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>8) 54,099: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>9) 40,223: Pekora (hololive) Steam summer sale: gifting games to holomem
>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3
>11) 27,684: Saba (indie) STATIC DREAD
>12) 33,942: AZKi (Hololive)
>13) 53,577: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14) 40,163: Nene (Hololive)
>15) 40,127: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>16) 37,765: Pekora (Hololive)
>17) 41,547: Mio (Hololive)
>18) 36,055: Koyori (Hololive)
>19) 32,794: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>20) 41,580: Miko (Hololive)
>21) 43,152: Miko (Hololive)
>22) 37,624: Miko (Hololive)
>23) 32,707: Watame (Hololive)
>24) 28,594: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
13x: hololive
9x: nijisanji
2x: indie

> PER STREAMER
3x: Miko
2x: Pekora
1x: Marine, Leos, Chiroru, Shiina, Miko, Rena, Shiina, Kuzuha, Lamy, Saba, AZKi, Sasaki, Nene, Kagami, Mio, Koyori, Lauren, Watame, Rikiichi

>>102708901
You missed Raden being very very cute

>>102708634
if you want a safe space, I'm pretty sure Towa bans all the cuckposters

Heads-up do not post shit about nimi you will be banned from this thread.

>>102708634
>every shitposter/schizo, ironic or otherwise, used Fauna/Nimi as a shield and example to shit on other girls
If you didn't expect this much of a snapback you're insane

>>102708970
nobody, kronii is on in a few hours

>>102708977
DOOOOORYAAAAAAAAA

>>102708926
What about her merch sales though?
That's where I would expect a girl doing that to hurt cause the usual kind of male-collab watching tourist doesn't exactly buy merch

>>102708479
She has basically the same CCV as before. But I don't think her audience cared. Naplings might be different, or not. I feel like some audiences can tank it better than others. FWMC's audience would probably have a meltdown, ERB's wouldn't give a shit. Everyone else is somewhere in between those extremes.

>>102708934
Reading comprehension, anon. I was defending her (well, more like Nimi) and saying that male collabing doesn't really affect their viewership much

>>102708986
JUL 2025 holoID
>1) 3,539: Zeta (Hitman 3)
>2) 3,835: Risu (DINKUM)
>3) 4,295: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>4) 4,188: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>5) 3,889: Kaela (Good Pizza, Great Pizza)
>6) 7,395: Kaela (PEAK)
>7) 8,519: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)
>8) 8,701: Risu (DINKUM) [2]
>9) 5,707: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>10) 6,850: Kaela (PEAK)
>11) 6,324: Kaela (PEAK)
>12) 11,657: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)
>13) 1,319: Risu (DINKUM)
>14) 7,100: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)
>15) 11,154: Iofi (Birthday 2025 3D Live)
>16) 11,293: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)
>17) 9,623: Kaela (PEAK w/ GRAONDSTONE) [2]
>18) 4,571: Moona (Umamusume Pretty Derby)
>19) 2,990: Risu (DINKUM)
>20) 3,938: Ollie (UMAMUSUME PRETTY DERBY)
>21) 4,044: Kaela (PEJUANG SENIN)
>22) 12,493: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby) [2]
>23) 10,859: Kaela (PEAK w/ Timesmith)
>24) 11,043: Kaela (Word Play)

> PER STREAMER
13x: Kaela
4x: Iofi, Risu
1x: Zeta, Moona, Ollie

>>102708977
DORYAAAAAAA

>>102708977
Man her sub growth died, most of her subs where dead subs

>>102708934
retard

>>102709028
>ERB's wouldn't give a shit
You sure ERB could get away with suddenly male collabing?

wtf are you on about

>>102709031
JUL 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,033: Hinano (VSPO) Zatsudan [21]
>2) 10,370: Koyori (hololive) Shadowverse WB [26]
>3) 10,093: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [26]
>4) 11,476: Hinano (VSPO) Apex Legends w/ uruha, selly [22]
>5) 10,122: Vivi (hololive) Five Nights at Freddy's: Secret of the Mimic [31]
>6) 10,147: Lui (hololive) horserace betting [41]
>7) 10,855: AZKi (hololive) Minecraft [27]
>8) 10,063: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [23]
>9) 10,142: Lui (hololive) Minecraft [34]
>10) 10,031: Towa (hololive) STREET FIGHTER 6 [25]
>11) 10,054: Calliope (hololive) Umamusume Pretty Derby [23]
>12) 10,368: Aki (Hololive)
>13) 10,013: Dooby (Indie)
>14) 10,423: Flare (Hololive)
>15) 10,198: Sendo (VSPO)
>16) 10,319: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>17) 10,094: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18) 10,540: Mio (Hololive)
>19) 10,440: Marin (Nijisanji)
>20) 10,401: Okayu (Hololive)
>21) 10,173: Rin (MAHA5)
>22) 10,073: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>23) 10,052: Lize (Nijisanji)
>24) 10,329: Ren (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
3x: VSPO
13x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie
1x: MAHA5

> PER STREAMER
3x: Vivi
2x: Hinano, Lui
1x: Koyori, AZKi, Towa, Calliope, Aki, Dooby, Flare, Sendo, Yashiro, Kanae, Mio, Marin, Okayu, Rin, Ren

>>102708634
We've been locked in a Nimi/Fauna seething spiral since January right? I don't foresee it changing. Not even Saba redebuting really moved the needle away from seething about Nimi.

>>102709023
Nimi has her SC disabled most of the time and has only released one wave of personal merch since debut so I doubt she cares much about making money

>>102709030
Sorry mb there is Filipino fag with cuck fetish always posting like you.

>>102708725
Doesn't matter Mint doesn't want to join Holo.

>>102708634
A small price to pay for Kronii art.

>>102709078
She cares so little she waited until the merch and oshispark tickets were done before announcing this to her fans

Viewership flow of the next relay according to 5ch, this is their analysis based off time of day, popularity and singing prowess

>>102709078
Anon if she had her sc on imagine the amount of cuck money spam here and on x

>>102709079
Shiori is a flip with an NTR fetish though? She wanted Novelites to like it, and they do.

>>102709030
Shiori was too much of a runt to be affected that much

>>102708768
>lately
>Vei's comment is like 13 hours old
Thank you for your amazing and astute observations.

>>102709001
Yeah, im sure a good chunk of people here dont even dislike Nimi that much, they are just taking the opportunity to make fun of naplings

>>102709070
JUL 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab
>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show
>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6 [S]
>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream
>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O.
>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive
>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7 [S]
>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [S]
>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise opening
>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3 [B]
>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>12) 40,233: Marine (hololive) DRAGON BALL Z: KAKAROT
>13) 76,277: VOLTACTION (nijisanji) VOLTACTION 3rd Anniversary
>14) 54,800: Miko (hololive) Return stream [S]
>15) 40,127: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [B]
>16) 43,835: Laplus (hololive) holomem oneesan tierlist
>17) 41,547: Mio (hololive) holo7DTD hardcore season 2 Day1 [B]
>18) 36,055: Koyori (hololive) MariKoyo [B]
>19) 33,331: Korone (hololive) Umamusume first time [S]
>20) 44,935: Kurageu Roa (indie) Debut stream [S]
>21) 34,764: Moka (VSPO) MOKA CUP TOP8 FINALS [4th]
>22) 46,099: Kson (VShojo)
>23) 32,707: Watame (Hololive)
>24) 28,594: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
8x: nijisanji
11x: hololive
3x: indie
1x: VSPO
1x: VShojo

Btw previous christmas relay had 30-40k ccv this one was far better

Reminder that someone "good" doesn't mean they will be "good" in the eyes of people /here/

>>102709001
>i fell for every falseflag including gunrun
isn't that the problem?

>>102709122
damn that's retarded

>>102709122
kek

>>102709023
We don't have any reliable way to monitor merch sales in a useful way, and Shiori was always pretty low regardless.

>>102709122
Why did Yagoo put Mococo between the two shittiest homocollabers in hololive? If he was going to put her between homocollabers he could've put her with the ones that could actually sing, like Mori and Bae

>>102708472
>Is it really business yuri or do they like each other?
>ERB: includes Nerissa in her thumbnail
>Nerissa: just Nerissa
Nerissa just allows ERB to leech off her

>>102709122
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen

>>102709168
People are busy during the holidays

>>102709122
Flowglow....

>>102708472
Depend on how schizo you are and which side of the culture war you're on
Funny thing is that, even the most insane yurifag on Twitter will agree that BldRvn are merely "roleplay" their relationship

>>102709117
Oshispark online tickets are still available
Oshispark physical merch is still available

>>102709122
they seriously over estimate Kobo

>>102709046
No shit, the older the chuuba the more dead subs they have especially if they were active during coof
Somewhat ironically Saba has the least amount of dead subs now of all prominent EN chuubas just because she's so new

>>102709122
Wait cc can't sing for shit her Karaoke are sad af and really biboo green???

>>102709150
I don't dislike her, but I do think it's a terrible idea to announce this as a lore drop on your vtubing account AND I think she picked a time to do so that makes her look bad, due to >>102709117

I also think she should have announced it on the other place and done it between the graduation of Fauna and debut of Nimi. Not to mention it would have saved the world a lot of shitflinging towards Cover and Yagoo, as people would have much better understood why she was leaving.

>>102708374 (OP)
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)
45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/17-07)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

>>102709122
now this is advanced shitposting, it's like 5ch tierlist shitposting, but unique and original. 7/10 for using a new format

Quick question: does gokischizo hate any other gen?

>>102709225
Irrelevant now, 99.9% of all the sales those will see have been made already. Coupled with the vshojo drama covering her nicely she knew this was the time to come out with it.

>>102709239
I mean she still has a fuckton of dead subs. Her sub to viewership ratio is already really fucked. That's just the nature of being #1 and having a large halo of super casual people who have subbed to you.

>>102709284
Goalpost movement. Classic.

>>102709215
But today is friday anon? By that logic everyone should be in clubs

>>102709245
CC isnt a great singer but her karaoke numbers are always good
Same for Biboo, its about numbers

>>102709264
>unique and original
it's literally gokischizo

>>102709245
>cc can't sing for shit
Wrong

how goonable is Azki's ASMR?

Total hours watched is the More Important metric.

>>102709122
why do they hate Vivi?

>>102708479
>Shiori still has higher average CCV than she did before male collabing, so realistically chances are nothing will change
I don't think that's accurate. Here is her average CCV for 2025

>5261 :: 2025-01-01 to 2025-01-31 (22 streams)
>4760 :: 2025-02-01 to 2025-02-27 (18 streams)
>5576 :: 2025-03-01 to 2025-03-30 (21 streams)
>4794 :: 2025-04-01 to 2025-04-25 (17 streams)
>4674 :: 2025-05-01 to 2025-05-31 (19 streams)
>5120 :: 2025-06-03 to 2025-06-27 (18 streams)
>4017 :: 2025-07-01 to 2025-07-13 (8 streams)

At very least she took a small hit.

>>102708472
Probably a bit of both, but ERB's real yuri relationships are Raora and RBC.

>>102709251
This is actually literally the best time the Vshojo stuff pushed it right off the front page. Couldn't have picked a better time for people to say "oh I see" and then go talk about something else.

Oh yeah I'm fucking off to towa. It's better than /here/ atleast I don't have to deal with vshojo and niji iterns

>>102709330
She hasn't done the new one yet right?
The only ASMR I know of is the one with Wamy

>>102709104
oh mint..
why cant you just be patient and try holo again
its the simplest path for your idol journey
they might reject you for being ex niji but who knows, maybe if you show determination they might come up with something that you could work with

>>102709195
Polka is Mococo's oshi

>>102709316
At noon?

>>102709122
>All of gen 5 with a down arrow
You can't fool me Gokischizo

>>102709122
>nene botan polka

>>102709239
While she has the highest amount of active subs, she had the highest % of dead subs, Nimi was at 1 million and shes already back to 600k, Saba used to have almost 5 million and seems to have stagnated at 1.3

>>102709344
I agree on the timing but not on the manner. Making it "Nimi Nightmare lore" is retarded as fuck

>>102709332
5ch hates fakes like Vivi, Riona and Niko because they were idols/big names in their past, it's soulless recruitment. That's the same reason they love Myth because Myth had so much underdog soul to them.

>>102709329
Well people are going to hear her singing in 8hrs

Reminder that recent news revealed 4chan is the only community that matters.

>>102709313
More like explaining to you why your argument holds zero weight. You're welcome.

>>102709326
And? It's not a tierlist, at least gokischizo put a modicum of effort into coming up with a new format instead of doing the 'ol tierlist maker tierlist

>>102709245
kill yourself Biboo schizo

>>102709245
>cc can't sing for shit
behold the power of SOVL

>>102709122
they don't seem very smart if they don't see Ohasuba as causing viewership decline starting at 10:00 JST

>>102709316
>But today is friday anon
nta but holy shit I thought it was Thursday.. I put my garbage cans out and everything.

>>102709122
Wtf is this? Can you tell them I'm disappointed. I thought they were better than us

>>102709122
>niko
>down
do they hate her? she is one of the better singers

>>102709359
she did some

>>102709338
The difference is so miniscule its more accurate to say it barely affected her
But lik the other anon said, she was already a giga runt, not much more she can recline

>PEOPLE FALLIN FOR GOKISCHIZO RUSE
NEWFAGS!

>>102709352
back to your NEET ERP hugbox nigger

>>102709372
Anon not even the Japanese think that gen can sing to save their lives, have you seen their karaoke numbers?

>>102709389
was, opperating on infos a cunt had back in 2023
shit happened since

>>102709122
>All these replies and NO ONE realized it's the gokischizo posting
This thread is reclining

>>102709122
hey there, gokischizo

>>102709331
mousey...

>>102709411
Anonchama...

>>102709445
I thought Gokischizo had died with V-Shojo

>>102709122
Pretty sure it will go down with su. She is going right after marine

>>102709329
Shes now the worst singer in the relay now that Raora pulled out

Nips hate underdogs, they're soulless collectivist Asiatic bugmen just like chinks and gooks. It's only the Faustian West who support underdogs.

>>102709422
I haven't seen those ones yet, I was waiting for the one which Miggers did a thumbnail of

>>102709464
No that was Ennacuck

>>102709381
Two things
First off she used "lore drop" in the way younger kids use lore drop. She didn't mean it literally. And even if she didn't use lore drop people would tie it to her anyway, just like even if she did it on her alt people would've tied it to her anyway. A marriage is a big deal, there was not going to be any escaping it.

>>102709235
Kobo's singing does quite well. Just compare the popularity of Shinkiro to III for instance

>>102709458
>still the biggest western vtuber
your point being what?
imagine how pathetic saba's numbers would be here kek

>>102709382
>5ch hates fakes like Vivi
>4chan hates fakes like Kronii
WE ARE

It's hilarious that vshojo not only asked "would you collab with a male vtuber or streamer?" in their hiring interviews near the end, but when a girl said "I personally wouldn't want to do that" they went "OK but what if he has a lot of viewers and is very popular?"

This actually happened

>>102709458
Please don't wake up ennacuck, I don't feel like dealing with his weird posting today

who's the gokuschizo?

>>102709425
>The difference is so miniscule its more accurate to say it barely affected her
I wouldn't disagree except the original claim at >>102708479 was
>still has higher average CCV than she did before
I wouldn't have bothered if it was your claim but it was something completely else

>>102709513
>giga drama buff
>30k
Saba won.

>>102709531
Ennacuck is dead....

>>102709521
4chan hates kronii because she's just another gymslut and flaunts her sexually charged interaction with men

>>102709538
Vegeta

>>102709530
source?

>>102709496
No, it's a huge difference. The same way you don't see other fans bring up stuff their oshis only said on other accounts.
It would have made that whole thing entirely off topic on Nimi Nightmare.

Bringing this into your vtubing career is a massive difference from only saying it elsewhere. We have examples of that out there and you know it.

>>102709521
4chan LOVES Kronii, are you retarded?

>>102709557
Napcuck...

>>102709538
Picollo still seething for rearing Gohan

>>102709122
thinking that Kobo or Su will do better than Vivi…kek, pure nonsense

>>102709538
Piccolo, he even stole his son

>>102709555
His ghost might come back

>>102709496
>First off she used "lore drop" in the way younger kids use lore drop. She didn't mean it literally.
Yeah, that's a hard sell considering what "lore" means in the vtuber context. In any case, there is that "other" married vtuber that did the same thing, except in her alt and it was the correct way of doing it instead of using her primary account.

The difference is simple: she erased the distinction between "Nimi Nightmare" and her "person inside". Even if you would go by the alternative interpretation of "lore drop", she made the reveal of her private person one and the same with her public account by the way she disclosed it.

Unforced error if you ask me and I have nothing but well wishes for her

>>102709583
That works if you're in a corpo but not when you're indie. I'm sorry but nothing would've changed.

>>102709571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNWU2lsld9M

>>102709343
>real yuri relationships
There are no real yuri relationships, it’s all business. They can still be friends though

>>102709301
Depends on how you define "dead subs"
I'd say if they don't intend to watch ANY future content, then they're dead
If you have someone that watches infrequently or only a certain type of content (like MVs for music-oriented chuubas) then they're not really dead subs

>>102709379
Yes Gura (and the rest of Myth) had/have a shitload of dead subs, but Saba herself has far far less because the redebut essentially shed all those old dead ones

>>102709591
yeah, 5ch loves Vivi too :D

Sometimes it's worth it to look at catalog threads
>>102706740
https://youtu.be/DK599n_Hs-k?t=2964
>It is such a cool opportunity for Mint. 3D idol concerts are really starting to open up in the west, and just for anybody who doesn't know how big of an opportunity this is for Mint, with VShojo we have been looking at (3D concerts) and it is so expensive the bill pushes 6 figures and we just can't do that. And because this is at a big convention, you have to get song licensing you can't just sing anything you want. You never think of stuff like that and those hurdles to jump and the money that costs.
Ah yes, 3D is hard. English song perms is hard. Who knew?

>>102709521
>4chan hates fakes like Kronii
Last time i check Kronii was in Hololive doing her idol reps while fauna was getting railed by her bf not going to record a 3D live for her fans
Bet the reason she didn't is because her BF didn't want her to pay for it lol

>>102709629
Vivi please get off 4chan

>>102709546
how many hours watched?
>average stream length of 3 hours
>say 25k view average (the average is now 15k but the earlier ones were higher)
>12 videos
that's 3 hrs * 25k viewers * 12 videos = 900k watched hours in a month
even if she kept her debut buff up at this rate she'd be at 2.7M, much below 4.52M of ironmouse

saba simply doesn't stream enough to be relevant

>>102709615
It absolutely would have changed a lot, guess we're not going to agree on this.

>>102709316
>today is friday
Not for the country that matters

Are these normal numbers around here these days?
Kinda sad ngl

>>102709635
How is fauna being the gym bicycle better than fauna being engaged?

>>102709530
holy shit, are they pimps or what? literally whoring their vtubers

>>102709666
lol we're already 2x the normal ppm

>how many hours hours watched??

please, stop.

>>102709666
most of /vt/ are thirdie NEETs and most of them are asleep

thoughts?

>>102709631
>3D is hard. English song perms is hard. Who knew?
NO MINT, JUST WING IT! DON'T ASK FOR PERMISSIONS, DON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING!
>people promised me it was as simple as that!

>>102709667
ew do not talk to me SAAR jeetkaneer street shitter

>>102709474
Noel... Choco...

>>102709666
Even if we really wanted to, human beings cannot possibly fight everyday at every second.

Even our schizos get tired, Ennacuck probably roped, Gokischizo probably roped, Jellyfag roped AGES ago

>>102709631
How did oshispark do it

>>102709666
/#/ looks a lot higher

>>102708430
Idk there's no way to know, but picrel can be an omen
the red line is when the lore drop happened

>>102708901
Just watch the vods, you have time

Hours watched is the most important metric, it's like distance traveled

counting viewcount and ignoring the frequency and length of streaming is like just counting speed instead of distance

>>102709706
Money. Lots of it

>>102709666
Fuck no kek. For the past 2 months, usually during these hours you're lucky to get 2ppm here

>>102709639
NNNNNNNNNNNNNVIVIIIiiiiiiiiii

>>102708877
>h-h-huuuuuuu let me seethe at huuuuuuuu kronii for 7 hours
spot on

>have Lui's Karaoke stream on second monitor while I do some gacha dailies
>next thing I know its already on Koyori's karaoke stream since Lui's was only 20 mins long
>next thing I realized I'm on Azki's stream because Koyori's was only 20 mins long
>her is also 20 mins long as well
at least watame one was 50 mins long

>>102709706
The point is not that you can't do it, but that it'd cost tons of up-front investment

>>102709719
so is the kronii comparison valid or not

>>102709635
i never said anything about idolshit, do you want me to make you remember when anons hated her because she "sounds so fake" "why the fuck are you like that" "i hate her voice"? and no, this not only came from saplings

>>102709001
They are still doing it now, like the ligger who keeps getting mad that people weren't shitting on Azki instead of nimi

>>102709687
auto generated like always

>>102709700
im mocking thirdie dogs on the 'gog as they get btfo'd and eliminated from CS so im not gonna bother with /vt/ til thats over

based counterstrike and based twitchchat, the white ethnostate of communities

>>102709773
nta but *idolpeak
ftfy

>>102709631
Maybe I just never fought with drooling retards, but I thought everyone universally acknowledged 3D concerts are hard and english song perms are a bitch

>>102709687
the fuck is univirtuals?

>>102709692
is there a kedama korone pic about it?

>>102709793
>Counter Strike
Good job exposing yourself as an Latinx, retard

>>102709122
Kiara being an arrow up after a chain of relative EN and JP heavy hitters is a daring bet- wait, this is Gokischizo, lmao

>>102709773
>want me to make you remember when anons hated her
>when
>past tense
>said 4chan hates
>present
so you're just a dumb retarded nigger who speaks to say fucking nothing
gotcha

>>102709696
JP, dont care

>>102709731
Which vtuber would you describe as more successful/appealing to sponsorships?

>Vtuber A streamed for 10 hours to 500 people = 5k hours watched
>Vtuber B streamed for 1 hour to 5000 people = 5k hours watched

>>102709666
maybe its because of SEA war?

>>102709513
>Biggest western vtuber
I thought vshokeks are currently hiding? Why tf there's still here flaunting their delusional cope on this board. You retards doesn't have shame huh.

>>102709731
We don't have access to Youtube analytics

>>102709641
>relevant

Fantastic Reality presented by IRIAM
Update
Ticket status
VIP: 150/150 sold
Gen. Ad.: 336/681(Previously 850) sold

>>102709820
spics don't play counterstrike you retard, macacos try to but they get btfo'd
it's only us white europeans, especially us white northern euros, who play it

>>102709818
nta, i only have this

>>102709856
stop this

>>102709832
Well it depends on the context of what they are streaming.

>>102709706
Very small venue and low production cost

>>102709687
I'm sure if you look at her other streams she has the same preset set of tags for all of them. This is /#/ so I can't fault her for tagmaxxing

>Only one who didn't get a raid
>Still peaked the highest
Fucking love my Mikochi

>>102709671
Literally ANYTHING for numbers, no cost too great to kill the holocels
Millions on hit ads, shitposting campaigns on 4chan/twitter/etc., poaching whatever talent they could wormtongue like kekson at her dumbest and michael cat at her lowest

all my niggas nazis, nigga Heil Hitler

>>102709832
It's about ad revenue anon

>>102709841
i'm not part of any of your tribes, i'm just here to knock some sense into you for using the wrong metrics

>>102709847
you don't need it, just calculate using the average viewcount, or if you really want to be accurate you could integrate those viewcount timeseries graphs everyone makes schizo analysis about. have you people never been to college?

>>102709719
With an increase of 5000 subs in four days, you'd think she could manage an increase of at least a thousand subs in the following four days.

>>102709832
It's hard to get someone who barely streams to do a sponsorship, so it might well be the 10 hour person. Ideally sure you'd swing for the big one but their rates are gonna be steep and they most likely will just blow you off.

>>102709856
concerts dont matter
idolshit doesn't matter

>>102709830
just because you want to own nimikeks doesn't mean you actually like her, at least IRyStocrats are faithful and they still hate Kronii

>>102709915
I still fucking hate Moona for that. She knows how to raid, she just didn't want to. Miko didn't need it, but it was still kinda fucked up

>my oshi is a friendless cunt so raids dont count
every time kek

>>102709915
sadly they don't watch other holomem

>>102709513
Bijou is literally beating her on that chart...

>>102709965
orders from pegola

>>102709915
Moona knew mikoti doesn't need raids so she doesn't bothered to make one. She knew raids are only an insult to the number queen.

>>102709932
heil!

>>102709965
Who if Miko doesn't have ID whitelisted

>>102709983
she's japanese not western anon

>>102709474
Yeah, no

I saw someone saying
>We need to get ALL vtuber companies a union NOW
in response to the vshojo shit lmao

>>102709867
>it's only us white europeans, especially us white northern euros, who play it
Uh ..... missing someone, tovarish?!??!

>>102709952
You just answered it yourself. B is more expensive and worthwhile, which also means B is more successful.
Despite having the same hours watched B's metrics are better.

>>102709706
low production, small venues and also judging by the recent VShojo faring, they might be the type counting on startup capital carrying them for long enough to land a big fish like Saba helping them launch an actually profitable project
and if it's the latter, I expect a similarly spectacular ending

>>102709965
Have you ever consider the possibility of Miko TURN OFF RAID FROM ID?

>>102709954
Not only she's my Oshi nigger but also i fucking love TimeRyS
/HiRyS/ niggers need not apply

>>102710032
slavs aren't yuros

>>102710032
>spics and SEAmonkeys calling slavs nonwhite
every time kek

>>102710000
The fuck? KEK
my pic rel.. ironic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDuxP2vnWNk

>>102709915
Oh god now that we talk about this, that earrape part was horrible, even 4k people left during that, genuinely wtf was that…

>>102709856
I'm looking for a similar tweet to picrel for Virtual Vacation. Do you know where one is?

>>102710067
>>102710069

>>102710047
>considered
>turning
calm down when you type, indog

>>102709706
it's Brave studio ?

>>102709954
I only hates kronies because they are fags
We like TimeRyS

>>102709706
>How did oshispark do it
>>102710109
>it's Brave studio ?
It's not. People are too dumb, oshipark is clearly doing the EXACT SAME THING VShojo did
>burning VC money trying to establish a foothold

>>102710069
I mean, you linked soviet soldiers, so there's very little slav anything there, mostly mongol rape babies

>>102710109
Oshilive and oshispark are two different companies.

>>102710099
we have the real numbers here :)

>>102710089
I think Moona was drunk. She definitely wasn't singing like she typically does

What's the vtubing equivalent of this image?

>>102709706
is oshispark profitable?
3D concert is just a niche service
you're basically hiring a small cgi+mocap crew, audio director, on top of song perms and other training/rehearsal

>>102709954
I like all of promise, get on my level.

https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/2502
https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/2502
https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/2502

>>102709934
Name a single benefit to combining hours streamed and average CCV into a singular, less useful metric.

>>102710145
Oshispark didn't even pay for the mocap studio, the girls had to.

>>102710075
We are kindred spirits destined to meet..

>>102710154
Something like
>72 out of the 77 vtuber accounts over 1M subs are from Hololive
Not the correct numbers but should be in the ballpark

>>102708576
She’s the first EN in the relay I think

>>102710154
Miko, Suisei, Korone, Fubuki, Subaru, Marine and Pekora.

>>102710183
>total ad revenue
>total amount of content
>total mindspace
hours watched mogs viewcount in every single way
especially since viewcount automatically gets buffed from faminestreamers who barely go live

>>102710154
>ifunny

>>102710185
who?

>>102710185
Rissa?

>>102710194
Saba is the fastest to 1M though, Saba is the England of vtubing. The Big Dog. The Protagonist.

>>102710089
I was one of them. Went to Miko's frame when she did that.

>>102709706
by spending ton of money

>>102708994
But that’s every Raden stream anon

>>102710185
Awwwww, this is cute.

Who wrote this?

>incline to 10k viewers for 4 hours
>spikes to 30k due to a raid
>ends shortly after or people leave
>hah! 30k!
that's why your metric is shit, hours watched cannot be gamed by raids and spikes.

>>102710194
fitting

Does Mori have some weird vendetta against Kiara? She never invites her onto her programs like the Music Radio she’s doing with Nerissa later.

>>102710185
WHO ANON, WHO?!

>>102710306
It can, retard

>>102710219
>total ad revenue
Hours watched is a terrible metric for this. Not all viewers are alike. Third world ID viewers are not 1:1 to NA-based EN viewers.
>total amount of content
Hours streamed alone is sufficient for quantifying content.
>total mindspace
A metric that claims Koyori has more "mindspace" than Miko is objectively a useless one.

>>102710255
That's absolutely true but doesn't change what I just said. Hololive has some 70 channels over 1M subs, the whole rest of the industry has 10 to 20

>>102710323
>mori vs kiara
>2025
the state of you fags i can't even

>>102709458
>>102709983
Bibbo is botted and should honestly be disqualified from those charts.

>>102710356
No, it can't, because viewers who leave are correctly integrated into the calculation, whereas max CCV is a max() function
you stupid cunt

>>102709803
A lot of retarded mouthbreathers think that Holo doesn't hand that stuff out like candy out of malice

>>102710359
>A metric that claims Koyori has more "mindspace" than Miko
kek

>saba member post
>8k likes in 6 hours
isn't this higher than gura's?

>>102710126
kronii would be great on speed, but her stamina and guts would suck ass. irys would be wit heavy and have great stamina and guts but her speed is low. bae would be a power and speed demon who has shit wit.

>>102710323
no, they're on good terms

>>102710005
>>102710047
Moona just raided Miko not long ago so it's fully working
the rrat is that management secretly change Miko's settings (fucking again) or just straightup told Moona not to raid
because they need to sabotage her number as much as possible, it's a miracle she still hasn't graduate after three years of bullying

>>102710180
They don't even mention the viewership stats for the 3rd tournament. Did it really do that badly when compared to the first two?

>>102710359
>Hours watched is a terrible metric for this. Not all viewers are alike. Third world ID viewers are not 1:1 to NA-based EN viewers.
it's much better than CCV and this argument doesn't apply anyway as CCV also is country agnostic

>Hours streamed alone is sufficient for quantifying content.
No, because content that is viewed by less people is less important than content which is viewed by more people.

https://x.com/MAMETCHl/status/1948703240100491295
Jesus fucking christ the absolute state of rent free

>>102710368
No I’m genuinely curious why she hasn’t invited Kiara who is on the most musically focused EN members on yet. It just doesn’t really makes sense.

>>102710185
Kiara?

>>102710395
Look at this retard

>>102710185
It's too bad none of this testimony will ever matter thanks to a certain vegan grifter intentionally fueling the black corp narratives to deflect from her incredibly petty reasons for leaving.

>>102710446
No one is using CCV for ad revenue in the first place. You are the one who's talking about it despite being completely orthogonal.

Why don't holofags and sabafags fight more often?

>>102710413
well saba has memberships as the only way to support her
I sure do hope she has more than gura

>>102710430
>moona raided miko recently
Proof?

>>102710483
>who is on the most musically focused EN members on yet
Alright come back when you can speak English.

>>102710194
>Not the correct numbers but should be in the ballpark
Then it's just as accurate as the image

>>102710506
Can she atleast stream tho?

>>102710185
>>102710506
I LOVE YOU NERISSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>102710483
they have one of the biggest schedule conflicts in the branch, Kiara is usually active around the time when it's 3-5 AM for Mori and neither likes to force the other to wake up at shitty hours (which is why their Split Fiction gameplay was in sorta shitty hours)

>>102710413
Debut buff, plus that one dude spamming gifted's, but also gura was getting high 5k to mid 6k per post, and that could get up to 7k

>>102710504
yes? my point is numbers is coping with CCV instead of hours watched and the fact that ad revenue is not based on CCV but on hours watched (as the base function, yes different regions are worth more or less money, but it's still the # of people watching * the # of ads watched aka hours watched) proves that hours watched is the superior metric.

>>102710506
>>102710185
very cute!

>>102710498
>It's too bad none of this testimony will ever matter
been seing a lot of people say otherwise all over the internet including normalfags

>>102710498
Well, the cock is out of the bag on that now
People started to wonder about the whole management thing, or assume that they wouldn't let her announce her marriage

>>102710541
Shes going back home eventually, I can wait for her

>>102710536
So what’s the reason?

>>102710506
Cute Rissa
should have joined the relay though

>>102710185
>>102710506
Just post the whole thing

>>102710441
I mentioned this mindset yesterday. These blokes main thesis is
>But current vtuber situation is also very far from this debate. "Corporations are exploitative" is not debatable. They exploit both talents and inner workers
as some anon put in the post I was replying to.
The thing is: there is ZERO requirement for a vtuber to sign up with a company and there are hundreds, THOUSANDS of independent vtubers doing their thing with zero corporate backing in a field where. there is ZERO requirement for a vtuber to sign with a corporation.
People saying that just fell for the "labor theory of value" meme where the entirety of the value of a task being perform is done by the worker performing it with the work of the backstage workers (marketeers, lawyers, accountants, general books) is valued at ZERO.

And here is the thing: the one and difference between "scientific socialism" and "utopian socialism" as described by Engels himself (and brushed upon by Marx as well) is
1) Utopian socialists believe socialism is the natural consequence of the labor relations and that people will naturally flock to it. Scientific socialists understand that people in power won't give up their advantage and that violence is necessary to enact change
2) Utopian socialists believe that it is possible to have a localised change while scientific socialists understand that AS LONG AS EVEN A SINGLE JURISDICTION IS CAPITALIST; it will have an inherent advantage (according to them) due to the exploitation of the worker

In the vtuber context, that explains PERFECTLY why this type of ideological retard is so adamant in trying to destroy Hololive in particular and corporate vtubers as a whole.
Their whole theory hinges on the fact that the very existence of corporation is morally wrong, but that it possesses an inherent advantage that makes their violent destruction the only way forward.
It's absolutely retarded but that's their mindset and that's why they have to be fought tooth and nails.
It is not that they thing Hololive is inferior and would fail otherwise, they KNOW Hololive is superior but they consider it morally wrong so they have a mission to destroy it even if it would disadvantage the Holo girls.

>>102710441
>Meanwhile the shit that is going on at hololive

>>102709195
>polka
Mococo would kill to be on legend of POL. She would get triple teamed by izutsu,polka, and roberu.

>>102710539
That was the point. There's always some Copernicus born in bumfuck nowhere or some Shigure Ui.

>>102710479
>rent free
quite the reverse, he was paying for hololive to stay in his head

>>102710596
I don't watch either the likely reason when it comes to Kiara is timezones
You are a fag and a nigger tho

>>102710579
Sounds like cope. Kiara’s more than willing to stream late for a one off stream.

I'm going to go ahead and assume hololive in general has a pathetic # of hours streamed per week average which is why everyone switched to shilling ccv.

>>102710479
Hololive did infact live rent free in gunrun's head

>>102710541
Tomorrow on mori's

>>102710479
That faggot really did have holo on his mind 24/7, christ
What the fuck did we ever do to him?
Guy was a twitch cofounder or whatever, what the fuck was his beef?

>>102710391
I think it okay though.No matter how good the bot is, they will become the laughing stock when bot ended. eg FWMC

>>102710506
You'd think if she was so appreciative of being in hololive she could sing for 20 minutes to fill in for Raora

>>102710622
just like naplings were paying to sit in the chair
all is making sense

>>102710662
You mean today?

>>102710404
the criticism there I've seen has been
>homos wasting studio time
and
>still not operating the studio at capacity
so iunno what you're talking about

>>102710185
and boom

she announces that she is getting married soon

don't fall for this

>>102710610
Imagine getting a bachelor's degree in business and marketing so you can babysit some midget's phone pet.

>>102710523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC02dpbRYTU
at around 20 mins

>>102710651
>switched

>>102710391
Mori was flexing being on one of these charts despite being botted. The charts aren’t meant to be taken seriously.

>>102710441
>has a good split
>organizes events
>fucks over shareholders by not paying dividends
>does not block collabs
Something about superiority and upsetting people

>>102710621
Exactly, also just in general that box should be a bit bigger too to be more accurate

>>102710651
sorry nobody in hololive let their stream on every single nights for months while they sleep and play somebody else's content
CCV or bust twitch nigger

>Nimi Nightmare
>Ends up giving me nightmares
Kojimbo...

>>102710676
lol

>>102710601
cute, i'm glad that whenever there's a fuck up outside the girls will be grateful of joining hololive but only talking to their fanbase instead of being attentionwhores on twitter like other vtwitchers did

>>102710693
you say this as if a marketing degree isn't a meme degree

>>102710663
SUCCESS
BREEDS
JEALOUSY

>>102710709
true you were probably get scraps for streams since the start kek

>>102710680
Oh yeah, it's today

>>102710651
Nah they are on par with niji and often win too
All this having half the hours streamed and the talents

>>102710736
>CCV or bust
You have to be joking. Its average monthly views or riot.

>>102710750
She made that post because she never streams and needs to justify streaming far less than any other EN by writing shit like that.

Every girl who was in the relay's first group below 1mil subs ticked (hajime, ririka, erb, kanade). Though we cannot see it, I'm sure the rest also gained a good amount of new subs. Safe to say that this relay event is a success in regards to exposing the audience to talents they don't normally watch.
That said, we can expect those with less than 1 mil subs in the second group to tick after their turns as well

>>102710693
>"bro why the fuck am i getting paid $200 for taking care of a tamagotchi"

>>102710767
>*destroys the walls and sullies the gardens by revealing years of cuckoldry*
you lost

>>102709666
What happened to hlgg?

>>102710799
yikes you smell of seething jealousy

>>102710693
>bachelor's degree in business and marketing
that's where your problem is

>>102710693
Gem-chan is probably some (cute) oba-chan so she doesn't mind

>>102710799
>>102710767

how the fuck did hololive fumble and lose the face of western vtubing? All they had to do was drop all the japshit

>>102710836
Stating a fact, don't act like Gura did make the same kind of posts and then never did shit.

>>102710799
female hands typed this

>>102710823
Like AKB48?

>>102710789
Cute doob

>>102710870
0.00 dollars have been deposited to your account

>>102710651
>t. Gunrun malding that his twitch whores don't get counted in cripple tally

>>102710870
didn't know hololive hired ironmouse

>>102710589
There are Hololive members who are married. Stop being retarded.

>>102710827
When's the last time you've been here?
They moved to a better place

>>102710827
they hit the second tower

>>102710892
>females in our sacred /#/ thread
disgusting

>>102710884
how many cover and song nerissa got out since she was in compared to gura in 4 years?
that's what i thought nigger

>>102710479
They don't even do that in HoloEN.
Imagine if Cover told Sana to make the beegsmols look more like Walfie's style.

>>102710884
>don't act like Gura did make the
>Gura did make the
Female, calm down before you type out your rage

bros do i delete my Faumei folder or nah?

>>102710479
This is why I hate unity fags.
For years they acted like we should all sing kumbaya as one united vtuber community but everyone always kept trying to drag hololive down behind the scenes. Vshitshow especially.

>>102710585
They're measuring different things

CCV or views (especially for non-streams) along with non-stream revenue like merch are the best representation of popularity
Suisei for example has shit watch hours, but she's incredibly popular and along with Miko is a complete merch monster

Otoh, watch hours is a combination of popularity and the amount of effort spent
It does correlate best with adrev and secondarily with superchats/donations, but those are hardly the only revenue sources for popular streamers, let alone those that focus less on streams and other content creation

>>102710972
Just do what I did

>>102710972
Yeah Mumei doesn't care for her and i'm not sure she appreciate the thought of her takind dicks

>>102710589
>wonder about the whole management thing
>she didn't do a 3d live unlike gura or mumei
she was true to herself and now you know the reason why she didn't do one, there's no need for dramafags to keep being retarded

I just realized that /vt/ hates twitch because twitchchat uses memes they hate like pepe/frog based memes and shitposting memes like gigachad

It's a microcosm of how you lost the war for 4chan

>>102710972
shippers were the real victims in all of this...

>>102710870
>Vshojo face of western vtubing!
lol

>>102710986
Unityfags died with Luxiem, mate

HOLOBVLLCOCK RAMMED DOWN THE BLEEDING, UNHINGED JAWS OF GVNRVN AND MOWTENDOO, SLOBBERING LIKE KEVIN NASH IN THE SWELTERING, SIZZLING, STEAMING, SLOPPY SVMMER OF '92! IT'S TRVE, IT'S TRVE, IT'S DAMN TRVE!

This is a Kronie thread

>>102710988
>CCV or views (especially for non-streams) along with non-stream revenue like merch are the best representation of popularity
No it isn't, most of them have high CCV because they're faminestreamers who are hardly ever live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNJH2d2swI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNJH2d2swI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNJH2d2swI

Nimi is actually a fucking psychopath. How do you drop info like "I'm getting married" and then just pretend like you never did? Is she actually going to keep this shit up for years? Pretending she's not married while actually being married and admitting to being married? Who fucking does that? How do you not bring up the marriage partner at all?

>>102710884
>Gura did make the same kind of posts
Gura didn't make posts like that after shitstorms outside of the wall, from my head i can say that only Mori and Kiara did and well Nerissa years ago and iirc Raora too

>>102710988
There's no such thing as "shit hours" in vtubing because the vast majority of people who watch vtubers are NEETs with fucked up sleep cycles anyway.

>>102710479
The more things like this come out the more I think that gunrun genuinely believed that if he imitated everything hololive does he'll supplant hololive

>>102711050
Like hell they did. Unityfags simply excluded NijiEN when the selen shit happened but carried on with everyone else. Now they're simply excluding vshojo. Rather than admit that no, just being a vtuber is not enough commonality for all fans to like each other, they'll just keep saying "it was only vshojo! it was only NijiEN! it was only Sinder!"

>>102711044
He's talking about gura/saba anon

>>102711079
>woman are actually a fucking psychopath
fyi

>>102711079
She's going to announce she's pregnant and then never bring it up again, until she's given birth in which she will tell us, only to never mention that child again. Like Mouse did.

>>102711079
she wasn't going to but the threat of the megadox was looming (and her doing it confirms other bombshells may drop.. perhaps gura)

>>102711113
no bro you see they are indies and have freedom so it's obvious to copy what hololive does!

It's actually gonna be hilarious if Saba drops the Karaoke today (she said she'd do one this week), since she'll be setting the relay tone for EN, unofficially. But most likely nostream or RE4slop

>>102710986
Well you see, that's because it was started by a conglomerate of western indie whores.

>>102710909
>Face of western vtubing
>ironmouse
I thought vshokeks went into hiding? Why tf you guys still spreading your lies and cope> Bro gunrun ain't paying you no more, the wannabe yagoo is already goes into hiding.

>>102711079
Will probably just slowly reveal it casually. Have his voice pop up on stream randomly, then start mentioning him by name. Then the baby comes, and she takes weeks off, that will make it obvious.

>>102710972
I did it
Do want you want tho

>>102711135
Ironmouse likely still has more normie mindshare overall than saba.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AMERIBROS!
>NINTENDO OF AMERICA IS REWRITING YOUR LORE DUMPS!

>>102711170
>and her doing it confirms other bombshells may drop.. perhaps gura)
Kill yourself. Some fucking vtuber could fall down a hole of dicks and you monkeys would go "hmmm...it could happen to Saba...and if it could...it will...i'm just saying"

>>102711050
>>102711121
Before this devolves into a farce, I should point out that there's a difference between the /vt/ definition of unity fags (niji and Holo should be allowed to collab freely like the JP side) which mostly died after luxiem and the general definition of unityfags (the entire vtubing sphere is one and the same and tribalism is Le bad), and you two should probably specify which version you're refering to

Holy shit, lmao. I didnt know this gunrun guy is a pagpag?
Millie, Jurard, Nousagi, and now Gunrun
Damn, these fuckers are the worst

>>102711189
She won't stream today, she will stream tomorrow, count on it.

She seemed exhausted and stressed on her Donkey Kong stream, hopefully she got some rest.

Did Vshojo at least take care of the talents' tamagotchis?

>>102710972
hmm. consider: yuri where one or both of them is cheating on their husband. thoughts on this matter?

>>102710818
i'm mad Nerissa didn't join when it would've boosted her subs a fair amount.

>>102711196
But anon, all the whores were innocent. Not one of them knew Vshojo was up to no good...somehow.
Nor did the 999 other indies who are now going #Metoo about vshojo! No one could've warned us!

>>102711189
retard

>>102711232
Built for tiny nip cock

>>102711164
kek exactly
i can't imagine the absolute rage of a /jp/spie idolnigger holofag upon seeing this image
seeing his le precious vtubing sullied and raped by western memes and shitposting

>>102711242
Okay yeah I was referring to Unityfaggotry as Niji-Holo shit

I suppose the other mate was referring to Unityfaggotry as V-Tubers overall

>>102711240
Peach is in a loving relationship with Bowser

>>102710479
To be fair, chibi 3d models with super detailed faces look kinda strange. Just saying copy walfie is kind of retarded, but a simple style does work better.

>>102710645
do you want to have a discussion or do you want to make it a retarded cope/seethe competition, because if the latter then I'll sub someone dumber

>>102711264
But she said she got all her sleep back in the member post so who knows.
Plus its better for me if she streams today, I got shit to do Saturday.

>>102711240
my man mario got the napling treatment for no reason...

>>102711234
>Ironmouse likely still has more normie mindshare overall than saba.
lmao retarded cunt

>>102711300
Why am I a retard? Did you take that as some sort of tribal attack on hololive or something?

>>102711241
>left cover because of "disagreements with management"
>won't collab with males
>no GFE/ASMR
>no superchat
all the red flags are there anon :)

>>102711349
The irony.

>>102711333
You’re not trying to have a serious discussion.

>>102711234
As Connor sidepiece

>>102711240
both mario and link are friendzoned, this has been the case since forever kek

>>102711367
>It's actually gonna be hilarious

>>102711349
Ah ah ah, stop right there.

Gura is not Saba, Saba is not Gura, the same way Senzawa is neither Gura nor Saba. There is a key difference between a Holo and their RM/Reincarnation/PL, it's the reason as to why Cake Princess hasn't been able to sell out.

>>102711287
it seems like kson was literally the only one that didn't know something was going down

>>102711069
You're overestimating the impact of stream hours on ccv
You have several holos that stream frequently enough, but don't have insane stream hours
Fubuki and Subaru are good examples here - they stream nearly daily, but their streams are short, and as long as the content isn't completely debuff, they get high ccv

>>102711349
nta but anon is most likely right. Consider ironrrat is deeply entangled in the trash fleshie environment on twitch, which is normie territory
saba/gura mostly does her thing

>>102711242
There's also the hlgg definition of unityfags (likes HoloEN, holoID and holoJP) but that also stopped being used when vt stopped created and became more or less the default

>>102711349
Watershed. Moment.

>>102711069
All of Holo's First Army streams practically daily.

>>102711074
you know, Fauna pushing for explicitly naming their collab group GAY has some funny connotations now

>>102711412
>Fubuki and Subaru are good examples here - they stream nearly daily, but their streams are short, and as long as the content isn't completely debuff, they get high ccv
having regular short streams is also faminestreaming and it artifically boosts ccv because everyone has to tune in ASAP or fear they miss the content

>>102711388
actually yes, since we're talking about normalfags that watch trash taste shit

>>102711369
Genuinely retarded, you'd lose arguments to third graders with this gibberish.

>>102711404
kek imagine being this deluded
i'm sorry you got cucked with the fauna situation but you cannot cope your way out like this.

>jwu
>the kronie avatarfag is still ban evading and posting on cooldown
Holy mindbroken

>>102711453
How so? She never said she's marrying a man

.

>>102711496
rent free

>>102711314
unironically, Mori introducing this emote + an active mod almost completely snatched the attention from Ame's previous relationship and body count being brought to light

So I'm watching Zentreya as a drama tourist and I still can't fucking believe this is something people watch every day, this is some people's favorite streamer. They think this is kino, 10/10 content
It's literally like 8 seconds of silence, then generic TTS. then 4 seconds of silence, then generic TTS. with this big titty dragon model on screen that you can see typing from the tracking. who the FUCK is the audience for this, this is like a parody of vtubing

>>102711453
>Fauna pushing for explicitly naming their collab group GAY
It was Mint. Also Fauna is dead.

>>102711419
>>102711234
People watching streamerslop of any kind are not normalfags.
They're mainstream(heh) stream viewers compared to weebier stuff like holos/ex holos, but they are not normalfags. It's always been a stupid argument and you can see by numbers and mindshare that Ironmouse was never more of a buzz generator than Gura. Or she wouldn't have imploded a corpo for measily 30k stream (srsly wtf? Kson got more)

>>102711074
>g.a.y. squad
>gay

>doing some collab streams on twitch are bigger than PRESENTING AT THE FUCKING DODGERS
lmao i know you are delusional fucking retards but it's one of the major teams of one of the major worldwide sports

>>102711459
Ok if you really want to continue being stupid
Explain Miko or Pekora who both have high ccv and high stream hours

>>102711404
Ah yes gura is not saba yet saba is also a fish themed loli with almost the same content.

How's your day going /#/?

>>102711515
>>102711065
No, not really. When you keep announcing retarded shit like this kek.

>>102711396
Yeah, because it's like she's gonna be unofficially part of the relay. What did YOU read that like?
>Ahahah holokeks we sabachads win ,we will be the first to stream a karaoke tonight!
Brother you gotta take a step back from this shithole.

>>102711537
>japshit
japs are subhuman bugmen

>>102710870
If by japshit you mean middle management then sure

>>102710818
Speaking of

>>102711496
QRD?

>>102711390
>Link
unironically he always wants to go fuck some other girls, the only link that has ever loved the princess is the BoTW/ToTK one

>>102711532
The dodgers thing doesn't mean much since they let Irys/Biboo/Ina do it. Are you gonna argue they're 2/3/4 of the EN vtubing world after Gura or something? It's just a corporate opportunity cause Dodgers have JP ties.

>>102711532
kaycenat and hasan are bigger than a collab dodgers tho, ironmouse won in this part

>>102711563
retard

>>102711385
I gave an actual argument supported by behavior from both girls and in response someone released a loud fart
discussion normally ends there

>>102711597
oh no you owned me. I wonder who's living rent free in your head kek.

>>102711496
You seem to be mindbroken anon

>>102711572
Unfortunate that raora dropped out and missed on a some subs but I get it, resting up is more important

>>102711524
>>102711388
>>102711349
This is bigger than the Dogers and this is just one award of many Mousey won.

>Kronii into Gigi into Cecilia, an hour with no ENs, then Ina, Biboo, Mori, Bae and Fuwawa

The ex-corpo collab is going to get absolutely raped by event overlap.

>>102709046
>Man her sub growth died,
Died? 10k every 2 days is dead? Sorry its no longer zoom zoom you wake up to another 100k but this shit ain't "dead" and if it is, what do we call every other vtuber?

>>102711597
>>102711634
>1min
KEK

>>102711521
even more people watch a literal voiced chatbot, there's a reason tying viewership to quality has been a retarded notion

>>102711647
Why does she hide the fact she has a child? Is she ashamed of it?

>>102711647
Not as impressive as this other award IM won

Anon-kun...
You weren't...
You weren't p-paid by VShojo to shitpost... were you?

>>102711577
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/tnum/102684062/deleted/deleted/page/8/

04:35:22
>Kronie(?)
>Nimischizo
>Holo vs Ex-Holo
>sapjanny schizo

04:27:06
>Mori liveposter
>Biggest Naplingschizo
>samefag shitposter
>hates Kiara
>Nimischizo
>pretends to be napling and samefagged his post
>Helmir defender

04:41:34
>Kronie avatarfag
>Biggest Nimischizo
>seething at Saba
>made normal posts about vshojo
>seething at Nimi and Naplings
>defending Mori's numbers
>hates Tower
>John cat poster...
>admits to ban evading

04:16:57
>Pebble
>made normal posts about vshojo
>Nimiseethe, but also argued and accused the 3 above of being vshojofags deflecting and spamming nimi posts and threads

04:24:23
>mostly normal posts about Holos
>Nimischizo
>Bibooschizo

04:34:36
>gym schizo

04:37:18
>Pebble, posted Biboo tweets
>Nimischizo
>Sabashizo
>Saplingschizo
>Helmirschizo/Watameschizo

04:25:34
>Phasefag
>Nimischizo
>Nimi dox
>Napling falseflag

>The first 3 people are the biggest spammers. It's kinda funny if you see it, they made a 100 posts about Fauna graduation and Nimi husband just talking to each other. It was all them.

>>102711597
>>102711634
Literally a minute apart

>>102711390
Because being married and having a wife is totally not family friendly.

>>102709301
>Her sub to viewership ratio is already really fucked
The year of our lord 2025 and we're still pretending these two are supposed to match? Who the fuck has a "good" sub to CCV ratio? What defines that? No one is streaming to 1 million, 500k, 100k etc

Anyone who says collabs on twitch are bigger than THE FUCKING DODGERS is a dirty brown foreigner

>>102711647
Does vshojo STILL pay you to shit on holo? Damn

>>102711696
>this was paid for by vshitshow
"KEKAROO" as they say

>>102711647
Please say the line

>>102711717
I really don't care about Yagoo paying out of his ass to shill shit to normalfags who will roll their eyes at the spectacle

>>102711725
>STILL
nah, he does it for free

>>102711608
Nta but you are a fucking retard. Why tf lungfans so delusional like man the only time I've ever hear her name is when she was begging for money coz of her illness and donathon or some fleshie streamer tryna hype her up. Even her numbers are all but a product of twitch raids and twitch forcing her to be on the frontpage.

>>102711513
holy

https://x.com/cumilq/status/1948791269628764165
tl;dr confirms that the great audition lie of 2022 was indeed what everyone assumed: They nepohired someone who got to skip the audition process.
The auditions were "real" but scrapped for the nepohire

Gymchad is rent free in kronii's holes
no wonder she's bad at singing, they can be rough with throats

>>102711614
If your only response is timezones then that’s not a valid answer when both are willing to move outside their norm. It’s a response, not a good one.

>>102711732
? No one has posted about Kronii in the last hour

>>102711647
How does it feel knowing vshojo was paying people while you did it for free, ennacuck?

>>102711706
heterosexuality is a nono

>>102711717
Twitch collabs is one thing, but Mouse giving a talk to US Congress or getting awarded at TGA is whole other thing

>>102711756
You're just terrified of normalfags eroding your idolshit and other japshit practices.

>>102711770
Don't you dare call me a fucking lungfan.
I'm just saying the Dodgers thing has been retroactively made into not that big a deal for Gura since Biboo/Ina/Irys can do it and they're all very mid tier EN vtubers.

>>102711699
>>102711775
Why are napcucks like this?

Every anti-Holopost is a psyop by rival groups and you can't convince me otherwise after the recent bombshell

i wasn't following but I see jeetkaneer is back at it again

>>102711794
>>102711546
>>102711775
are you being selectively retarded?

>>102711807
That's just because cover wouldn't let any of their talent do it and gura was retired.

fucking mint-beggars

>>102710818
Dang zeta should've joined would've put her closer to 1 mil

>>102711772
watamaaage vindicated, now the vshojoshills who shat on him should kneel

>>102711647
So that's where the charity money went

Kronii deserves nothing but cock

>>102711781
it's only timzones if you ignore the entire rest of the sentence

>>102711759
>nah, he does it for free
no way, what a LOSER kek

>>102711853
He just took an anti nimi post and replaced it with kronii, he's just doing it for attention now

>>102711840
> Calling biboo/Ina/irys mid tier
Then ironmouse is a low tier boring slop along with 99% of western vtubers. STFU lungfan

>>102711888
KEK

>>102711888
you forgot the hundreds of thousands he spent on 'news' outlets to prop his shit up

>>102711846
I don't care if it's psyops or seething liggers, they all lost.

>>102711859
That's obviously you schizoposting, probably to shitpost against Naplings. Why else you would he start posting exactly after I said that?

some of you need a shower

>>102711920
Millions

>>102711891
yeah, Kaela's

>>102711943
he already took a dip in the ganges anon

>>102711891
yeah, mine

>>102711860
Cover does let talent do it tho, they let Pekora take part in TGA and Mori performed for multiple high-rank politicians during the Osaka Expo opening, the upper echelon on both sides did some stuff that's normiesphere relevant and dismissing any of it is silly and just lowballs vtubing as medium and isn't really a good way to uplift Gura/Saba

>>102711897
You only mentioned timezones being the conflict. What else are you taking about?

cuckling status?

>>102711584
I ask again, what the fuck is univirtuals? How is that up there with hololive and nijisanji? Also it's fucking hilarious that there's no Vshojo tag

>>102711943
make me

>>102711390
WW Link canonically smashed the FUCK out of Zelda and founded a new royal family for Spirit Tracks

>>102711846
>>102711933
still trying to deflect from the faunacuck bombshell

>>102711939
>Why else you would he start
ESL..

>euro hours
>thread is shit
Every time

>>102711532
no one in America gives af about baseball. its all about basketball and football now

>>102712005
it's sudaca hours right now though

>>102711988
>what the fuck is univirtuals
a small jp corpo it seems, not sure why its there

>>102711986
happy for nimi and her hubby!

This has some new implications now

>>102711775
Why does this dalit have a crush on Chris Hemsworth

>>102712002
Oh no! I added an extra word and didn't proofread, you completely cannot understand the sentence now.

>>102711656
Is Saba streaming today? That'd wreck it even more

>>102712005
funny how the cuckposting goes hard during late SEA hours/mid yuro hours
catpcha: APT82D

>>102712005
9pm here, wouldn’t call that euro hours honestly

>>102712001
Imagine doing this shit for free

>they would ALWAYS shit talk other vtuber agencies. they literally would spend company money to get a tiny dig at them. especially hololive, it literally lived rentfree in gunruns head. they were convinced hololive was over when they signed kson and nazuna.

KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO

>>102712026
t. tyrone

>>102712060
sure thing cuckling

>>102712026
The HoloFes Super Bowl Halftime Show when?

> Auditions were scrapped for nepohires?
>I SLEEP
>don't have my money??
>REAL SHIT