:3 Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.youtube.com/@torioriane
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102716775

:3

where is everyone?

>>102721640
turns out 95% of the posters were just vshojo staff replying to eachother

>>102721640
Here >>102721141
We'll use this one after that if it's still here then.

Do you think Geega's dream of being in a game will ever be fulfilled? Also why was Vshojo ever planning to release a game? I can't even imagine what it would be about.

>>102721747
and the remaining 5% moved to 8

>>102722271
>why was Vshojo ever planning to release a game
Probably to have something like holocure that reaches people outside of the vtuber sphere

>>102722271
vshojo battle royale would've been hella litty senpai

Thinking of making my own video on vshojo to get those sweet sweet drama views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7jIEVop4hA

>>102722271
Geega should just make a game with her talents and experience.

>>102724382
boy she's taking getting ghosted on a job interview like 3 years ago pretty hard huh

>>102723567
I wanted a fighting game like that intro screen mouse had

I love lewd waifu Mouse
Fuck vshojo

>>102722271
I got a game for her right here

>>102725215
who

>>102722271
I remember hoping for it at the time but something like Slay the Spire would have been cool with VShojo. Relatively easy compared to most genres
>>102724382
I don't hate Camila but lol I hate this song

>>102725234
Game music reactor on Youtube. He used to be an opera singer.

I'm compiling a list of people who are/were owed money from VShojo
Here's what I can recall, let me know if I'm missing something or if I'm wrong
>$500k to the IDF
>The equivalent of a house to Mouse
>The equivalent of a Ferrari to Kson (Likely over $200k)
>An undisclosed amount to Henya
>An undisclosed amount to Michi
>An undisclosed amount to Zen
>An undisclosed amount to Kuro
>An undisclosed amount to Mint
>All the other new hires (Beri, Tori, Feebee, Pia, and others who have yet to be revealed) also had debut budgets they received no compensation for
>Nova is owed merch money from their debut, valentine's, and birthdays
>Geega is owed "something"
>Nyan was owed the equivalent of a Mercedes S-Class (Likely over $100k; according to her video she eventually managed to recover it thanks to a lawyer after she left)
>Silver was owed money (Likely has been partially paid overtime but she is still owed money for tons of sponsors like Smite and Ironside)
>Vei was owed money for sponsors (Only some of it got paid overtime, not all)
>Potentially money to Mata as well
>Bricky is owed $15,000
>Panora Virtual Reality Japan is owed money as well
>Various contractors and such
>Any lenders they borrowed money from
>A bunch of artists are either owed money or received it very late (if any notable artists in particular with a large sum let me know then I'll list them specifically)
>Half of this thread for shitposting about Vei without pay (for legal reasons this is a joke)

A Japanese cyptobro claims that there were talks to acquire VShojo for $2,000,000 that they ultimately backed out on since the financials of the business looked very unprofitable. This could possibly be a baseline for the total amount of money VShojo owes minus the lost charity money. But given the increasingly large list of debts it could very well be even higher than this.
>https://x.com/CL207/status/1947911415651512533

>>102725289
The fact you're not putting mel and Apek makes me think you're a shill

>>102722271
They probably told that studio "make me a Holocure bro" and the next day the devs ran with the money

>>102725338
shut up digi

I just wanna know one thing. Are the girls okay

ALL of them? Even ex girls

the bugboys have had their fun
now its time for the bug Men

>>102725215
Nice

If I take a nap can you all promise nothing will happen in the next 4 hours or so?

>>102725378
Yes I'm taking care of them

>>102725414

>>102725374
shut up every other talent ignoring mel since this all started

>>102725378
they're missing a few million dollars but other than that it's not like they're dying

Real previous thread:

>>102721141
>>102721141
>>102721141

>>102725374
shut up Nyan leaving the org and only unfollowing mel

>>102725397
I've seen that ass push out a mean log

>>102725338
I am just simply listing the known financial debts that VShojo has failed/took a long time to pay. Anything not confirmed or not money related isn't getting listed.

>>102725289
YOU FORGOT THE LITTLE CAESARS AGAIN

>>102724224
I'm going to make a video claiming that vsj was paying me to shitpost at a rate of 69 cents per (you)

>>102725338
Mel and Apek aren't owed money. Why would they be on this list?

>>102725289
Gunrun asked me if he could borrow a fry

>>102725436
The consequences of VShojo's actions are sadly not just limited to financial. A lot of vtubers have shared similar sentiments to "VShojo was the one thing a lot of them could hang onto as the 'good one' and that it can work" and now if you want to do more than just get sponsors (Mythic) you don't have any choices other than the corpos that take your IPs.

>>102725494
Mel's boyfriend being the CHEIF FINANCIAL OFFICER is money related :)

Will Henya ever use her real voice again?

>>102725576
Unconfirmed.

>>102725494
Ignore the Mel anti. He's clearly got an axe to grind and will do so even if nothing materializes. To him she's already guilty.

Needs to go back to fucking /pmg/ he does.

If Apek wasn't white you'd be jumping on him and Mel
Absolutely pathetic cult

doxxfag throwing a fit because no one cares about his rrat

>>102725576
Wasn't he the COO?

>>102725491
Sauce?

>>102725556
that's like saying schools aren't a viable way to educate a lot of people because sometimes they get shot up

>>102725640
Digi and his cronies always slither out of the sewers when they think they have a chance to hurt Mel. Ironic he used the word "cult". The classic anti projection.

>>102725662
on wiki he was listed as COO but on that house sale report he was listed as CFO

>>102725427
Well I'll just trust that everything will be quiet and I can rest.

Froot update

>>102725289
Don't forget all of us who were anti-ing Silver without getting paid!

Do you guys think when all is said and done that Mouse, Kson, Heyna, Michi, Zen, Kuro, and Mint will all agree that their merch money was best spent on developing Mel's porn game?

>>102725721
I demand compensation

>>102725707
I think if Nyan was going to do something today she'd have not gone live at all. So my guess is that she's either going to take longer, or she decided against it.

Either way I'm guessing the rest of the day is going to be calm. What's the worst that could happen

>>102725694
That's a terrible analogy, anon. It's more like VShojo was Harvey Dent, someone who politcked to be a game changer and clean things up for the better but ended up being two-faced and undid all the good it did and killed any hope that anybody else could.

https://x.com/CheruleanArt/status/1948742137819869287

>>102725721
That's like another $500k in itself given how long that stuff ruined this thread.

>>102725435
>>102725477
>minute apart posts

>>102725683
here
https://files.catbox.moe/p23bqu.jpg

I'm not gonna lie I'm guilty of spewing hatred and propaganda about Silver, Vei and Nyan on this board for years. Will you accept my apology?

>>102725764
just so you know Silver became active on twtter so there is 1% chance of nuke dropping

>>102725784
What could a bug have possibly eaten to produce that

>>102725362
500k for an unoriginal concept like that...

>>102725626
That's a good reason though? Whites are statistically far less likely to be criminals.

>>102725662
He was both lol

>>102725694
This is an interesting post because if you aren't American it doesn't make any fucking sense.

>>102725805
Only if it involves naked dogeza

>>102725764
>What's the worst that could happen
When will you people ever learn

>>102725764
>What's the worst that could happen
ANON

>>102725822
Lots and lots of aphids.

>>102725805
if you buy at least 5 tubs of Sakura Spalsh then yes

>>102725818
People did point out she canceled a planned stream today lol

>>102725846
Hai

>>102725626
I have genuinely never seen Apek in my life and assumed he was made up to have a third founder on the page.

>>102725718
>1 day without gooning to weird r34 hentai

>>102725829
no they're over represented in white collar crime

>>102725822
bugs actually take massive shits relative to their body weight

>>102725884
He is a literal dog

>>102725784
As a /ringo/fag, I thank you

>>102725884
Almost like he did it on purpose

>>102725884
He knew he would be fucked so he never used any real pictures on his work profiles

>>102725784
Bros, why is this hot?
I don't wanna smell or touch shit but pics like this give me a chub. Do I need to take a porn detox or something?

>>102725805
You shouldn't be apologizing to us.
You should be apologizing to Silver, Vei, and Nyan.
APOLOGIZE. NOW.

so is Mel's boyfriend in japan with her?

>>102725990
That's not peepeehead

I think Gunrun truly tried his best. His determination to do good couldn't let him call it quits when it was fucked years ago.

>>102726008
I sure hope so, he sold his house and her studio when she went to Japan.

Hey this is like those edits where you crop the dick out

>>102726008
Literally sold an apartment that had a 3D streaming room lol

>>102726008
No I'm not in Japan

>>102725805
sub to the girls and show proof.

>>102726029
Ok, Gun. Now turn yourself in.

>>102726029
That's why heartwarming of you to say MowtenDoo

>>102726029
I mean going by Nyan and vei it sounds like it went to shit basically immediately. I think it would have been hard to course correct if you fell right out of the gate and broke your leg lmao.

>>102725988
I mean if you imagine the log is purple it's like she's pushing out a long flexible dildo instead, and if you're aroused by that I don't see why you wouldn't be aroused by this

>>102726029
He redistributed wealth from greedy sick people to the poor, oppressed investors

>>102726008
I'm currently not in Japan so no

>>102725988
>Do I need to take a porn detox or something?
No, you embrace your newfound fetish and continue to harness your degeneracy

>>102726099
He maximized investor value like a patriot. From sea to shining sea. Until he bankrupted the company, mired it in debt, and humiliated all involved I guess.

mowtendoo sent me a picture of his toilet and it had chocolate whey on it for some reason

Tori's going to show her VShojo audition video if anyone was curious what they saw in her

>>102726029
Shut up Jewcob

>>102726029
Oh yeah, he tried his best, he tried his best to fuck over everyone. He is a Flip after all, what good thing can and will he do?

>>102726029
there's like 40 people here Gun
your reputation will not improve by trying to change the narrative here

>>102726099
Did the investors see any returns? If they did, Mel needs some rough correcting

>>102725988
Take the detox, don't lower yourself like that

Geega is on the Holostars femboy chat

>>102726029
Shut up Flip, you and your kind are not welcome in the Vtuber community!

>>102726303
which one

ama's winter outfit is called snowbunny

wassup my homies

>>102726186
I'm sad I can't watch this live, have Henry on my phone already and can't multi until I get home

>>102726326
The red one

Didn't a bunch of bible-suckers just get a bunch of porn games banned from steam via pressuring credit card companies? Is Mel's game funded by embezzled cash doomed from the get go?

>>102725988
Are you also into femdom? If so then your fetishes are strengthening. If you're not then they're still strengthening but in a completely different direction and that's on you

>>102726332
oh

Jesus christ hearing Mata's hag laugh in Juni's background is making me schizo

>>102726332
Someone post the clip of Grape wearing a shirt that said snowbunny without knowing what it meant

>>102726332
Same girl who doesn't know what white pearls meant, please understand.
At least she knows now.

>>102726029
nah bro, what the ABSOLUTE FUCK???

>>102726332
KEK

>>102726412
oh shit is she at her house?

>>102726412
why did she move in with Juniper
this is such an odd pairing

>>102726443
have you been under a rock anon

>>102726443
Mata lives with Juni, Michi lost

>>102726443
They live together now.
>>102726448
Mata needs to do some stuff in the US.
Juni is a lonely hag

>>102726448
A Bugs Life

>>102726443
I honestly worry for Juni. I didn't know where she lived (and didn't care to find out) but Mata casually said the city she lived in, that she was living with her, and a couple other people who lived in the same city that she visited lmao

>>102726448
They are both bug women from the frozen north? They're weirdly similar.

>Momo was supposed to launch around the same time Henya launched
>green rocket teased in Waifu Jam
>the lost Zen 2.0 video that was released after Henya debuted had a rocket that was equally green
Am I crazy?

Male on Zen stream, whoever you are, BUY A NEW MIC, guddamit

>>102726332
no way

>>102726515
Juni doxxed her location literally on her first stream after moving there from Alaska years ago.

>>102726525
Wasn't Momo supposed to be an OG member?

>>102726525
you are indeed crazy

>>102726525
What did that end up being? I remember it took AGES to be revealed and when it was people assumed it was a retcon because it didn't really seem like it fit

>>102726621
Did we ever get a continuation to that?

>>102726546
To explain, she heard Blurr kept referring to Emma Frost like that, she's a bit stupid and thinks Emma Frost powers are related to ice
>Ice = snow
Bunny sounds cute, so she decided to name the winter outfit "snowbunny"... they just told her what it meant lol

>>102726675
Yeah but it was a long time after. Like I think more than a year. maybe in the triple Zen lore video? Something like that

fuck you mei

OH FUCK, SABA NUKE DROPPED

>>102726593
Not for Vshojo, she was an OG plus, but applied during the first round of auditions.
>>102726621
It was nothing, from what I remember. The "Mythos" stuff died right after it. As the post credits scene, Geega and Zen get whatever it is working and they were going to "open portals to other worlds, or expand our empire infinitely"

>>102726688
To be fair why the hell would a superhero with the last namefrost not use ice powers

>>102726731
No I mean she was supposed to be part of the OG lineup but it fell through. She talked about being contacted in like 2019 and later told to go through "try outs".

>>102726332
Her Indonensian fanbase is about to triple

>>102726798
She definitely got her years wrong though. VShojo wasn't an idea until 2020. At most she'd be like a cream pi in 2019 or something lol

Hime was in nagis chat earlier

>>102726899
Go live, you bitch.

>>102721187 (OP)
I understand now why Mint was suddenly collabing with Beribug like 2-3 months ago.

>>102726723
just checked and HOLY SHIT

>>102726795
Comic writers are bit stupid.

Guys lets get real for a second here.
Instead of donating to some random no body charity, how about we donate to gunrun so he can start VS2.0(vshojo2.0) Mel would obviously be first gen, we would get saba, and they could do only fans content, we would get mint, and they could do chaterbait content. And froot would be there too!
Come on ! you know what they say!
first is the worst!
second is the best!

>>102725805
It honestly really kind of pisses me off to know that someone like MTD was apparently here stoking the flames of the hate. I got into all this right before the big split happened so wasn't really familiar with the girls who left outside of Nyan since it was her and mouse clips that ultimately brought me here, and it really makes me mad to think some creep like that in that position had hand in warping my perception of them. It's on me too for not doing my own research i suppose, but still feels pretty scummy. Hope the dude gets whats coming too him and it doesn't negatively affect any of the members to much

>>102726856
false, gunrun was talking about it on someone's irl stream in japan 7 years ago

>>102726980
I like the sound of this. Give Beri Pia and Tori a proper debut and I'm in

>>102726980
I support this, at least until the check I just got bounces

"Marika's a femboy, right?"
Tori's calculated Elden Ring ignorance isn't doing it for me.

>>102727012
>doing my own research
Well, that's the funny part. They intentionally made them unable to share any details so there was very little research to do. That made it easier to spread narratives.

I've been thinking about how easily vshojo could've been a way bigger deal if the people running it weren't retarded and lazy and it's pissing me off, so much wasted potential it's unreal

>>102727012
>It honestly really kind of pisses me off to know that someone like MTD was apparently here stoking the flames of the hate.
Yeah! How dare those fuckers invalidate our own home grown schizo hate with their astroturfing asses!

>>102727012
The thing that MTD supposedly did is rrat that Vei was joining OTK. This was simply picking up on an already-existing Vei anti angle and probably something that multiple independent people did on their own. It's mostly just embarrassing rather than something that significantly affected the discussion.

>>102725805
I'm gonna be completely honest, outside of Nyan.
I think when the other two were all like "it was a campaign to make us look bad", it really doesn't help their attitude on the Smite collabs and the two commissions (the art one and the calling themselves indie bitches).
They might have done it out of spite but it wasn't like the best call from them lol

>>102727097
Again, a merch based company not having ever green merch is insanity. Genuine insanity.

>>102727097
Panini was getting us a dream team and it was all ruined by an obese conman, a rapist and a temu lawyer

>>102727131
Pretty much. If there was someone here starting shit which I'm still 50/50 on personally then it REALLY didn't take much convincing lmao.

>>102727097
imagine the mint mouse concerts, especially with the other two idols

>>102727097
If the people running it were as motivated as the talents it could have been a massive success. Sadly, they were indolent techbros.

>>102726980
Add in Dokibird JOI harrasment asmr and I'm in

>>102727097
100%, absolutely retarded by gunrun and company, wasting money on useless shit and not fucking going all in on getting sponsorships and delivering merch
absolute failure and such wasted potential

>>102727189
You just reminded me I listened to this duet like 2000000 times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0agA7sbLHxk
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>102727153
Permanent merch, perishable merch, and a minimum number of merch drops per year into the contract. I do think it could have worked. I've been here since the beginning. I knew how VShojo worked and it sounded like it would, but I was always surprised they were able to get by with so few drops.

Turns out they weren't getting by lmao

>>102727097
It was a genuinely good idea that the talents also sold pretty well, but it was constructed with a lot of spite during a gold rush.
Looking back to a bit of the tampering and obsession with other companies, they really got in their heads that they were hot shit, but they were genuinely offering a good opportunity.
They got too cocky and ruined a lot of good will talents had achieved.

>>102726332
anon she has a music lyric about her pearl necklace

>>102727190
Worst part is that by all accounts, the managers and other staff in lower rungs were genuinely motivated. Like always, it's the useless fucks at the top that ruin it for everyone else.

https://youtu.be/ArOS-e2d-cM?si=VvJPxrCOBKnA0RQ7
Keep watching the music video especially the Monkesperg.

>>102727294
they got what they wanted - party, sex and drugs. what you wanted no one cared

>>102727259
So weird they also rejected some ideas like selling merch more exclusive to cons like signed posters, or the one time Mouse wanted to do a kind of gacha. The last one is funny because Camila got it though uwumedia.

>>102727362
Monkesperg has nothing to sperg about here? That's Bubi?

>>102727294
I don't think anyone has said this? Geega said some staff were motivated and some played Fortnite all day. And some people have said their manager, or specific people they interacted with, were nice. But it's not at all clear that everybody except upper management were go-getters, more likely there was a mix of genuinely talented and dedicated people and incompetent layabouts at all levels.

>>102727389
It's as if they were actively throwing out good ideas

Protect Henya!

>>102727189
>>102727243
she had her idol dreams crushed twice.. fuck riku and fuck gunrun

>>102727443
>some played Fortnite all day
By what Nyan or Aethel said, that was MTD or Apek.

>>102727443
Everyone has great things to say about every manager, and a fantastic opinion of the talent department as a whole. PR was apparently non existent, and the C suite was asleep at the wheel at best, actively destroying the company at worst.

>>102727016
yea so i just checked, this was in the same year he left twitch which means he already knew vshojo would be a thing, at time people thought he would go on to focus on his irl backpack business but now we know he never held any position there.

If you donate at least 1k to VS2.0 we will send you a personal 24/7 cervix live stream of your streamer! Just so you know no funny business is happening off line!
we don't want another Nimi/Ironmouse pregnancy to happen to your streamer now do you?

>>102727434
Fuck gunrun

>>102727097
I don't think they were lazy. At least not Gunrun. I just think effort is not enough, you also need to make though decisions and recognize when you're wrong.

>>102727434
FUUUUUUUUUUCK!

>>102727362
bubi and mouse fucking

>>102727189
it's a little ridiculous they had mint basically signed and she still went to a smaller company to get an actual concert

>>102727714
meds

>>102727434
nah this sucks

>>102727495
>not even using Metal Blade correctly
She's beyond saving, anon.

>>102727398
he hates him so badly idk why

>>102727558
>Everyone has great things to say about every manager
I think you should parse statements more carefully. For example Zen talked about asking someone about Froot and getting the answer that she's incommunicado. Is it not possible that the person she asked might be... a manager?

Nobody is eager to get into specifics and call out particular people right now, the only statement we have concerning the operation of the org as a whole is Geega saying that Gunrun isn't the only person to blame and a lot of company staff were slackers.

>>102725215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KnQiZ7pbY

>mtd and gunrun in a panic saying melody did this all.

I love her

>>102727375
Dude remember that MTD has a room like this
https://x.com/MowtenDoo/status/1830165162545836317
People here complain about Mata, but genuienly, see MTD for someone that probably used all his money on fucking trips. I remember saying this before, but fucking MTD went into more cons that had 0 to nothing to do with VShojo.

https://x.com/_Silvervale_/status/1948905036534481225

VSHOJO WAS DESTROYED BY UMAMUSUME!

>>102727611
God dammit gunrun how did you know internal pics were my fetish, you better get a good angle of my oshi's insides or you'll be adding one more lawsuit to the pile

>>102727745
nyan and vei are virgins with no bfs right fellow comrade.

>>102727789
Mel sexually harassed the girls and forced Nyan to say the n word?

i love mata and juni and beri

>>102727849
Ignore the Mel antis.

>>102727777
Zen literally just praised her manager a few hours ago lol

I still don't but it. Geega should come clean about her mishandling company's funds. She's got that fraud aura, if you know what I mean

https://x.com/feebeechanchibi/status/1948903432301281728 @Zentreya
If you want some Vtubers to make

>>102727558
PR was BatouHeisei.

>>102727777
>the only statement we have concerning the operation of the org as a whole is Geega
The only statement that you will acknowledge. Nyan and Aethel have both commented on MTD's lack of professionalism and noting that they have no idea what he actually did at the company. The C suite as a whole is to blame.
When Zen refers to "management" and her struggles to reach them, she is referring to GunRun and the C suite. Her whole tirade today was topped off with a recorded video, rather than a video call, that she received from GunRun.

>>102727818
>>102727824
Considering some staff were playing Fortnite in meetings, I would not be surprised if a good chunk of Vshojo's money went into gacha rolls.

>>102727818
>>102727824
I still feel so bad for Silver. She probably had the worst experience of the bunch.

>>102727957
Makes sense considering he's one of the people Henya de-modded last night along with Gun and MTD

>>102727243
FUCK FUCK FUCK
GUNRUN WHY
WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN THIS

>>102727362
Think ive repeated it like 5 times tonight already
soo good.

>>102727611
>Nimi/Ironmouse pregnancy
I get nimi but why ironmouse?

>>102727957
Correct. When I say non-existent, I mean they were effectively unreachable and not of any help, not that the department didn't exist.

I still can't get over how spot on Michi tarot readings were. Like, I do not believe in the supernatural at all. However...

>>102727789
Retard unironically thinks women can't lie

>>102727819
The childless mid-30s early-40s millennial too-much-money game room is such a grim trend of my generation.

>>102727862
I love lyra

>>102728060
>t. MTD

>>102728084
Remember they had no idea where the money went btw.

>>102728005
Do not take the bait. its base level iceburg shit

>>102728096
t. APEK

>>102728060
Unless some genuine evidence comes out damning Mel, I'm not going to believe you MTD.

The song in the level Henya is playing right now is ruined for me because of an old Corey in the House meme.

>>102727818
>>102727824
that's my wife

>>102727915
Are you huffing drain cleaner?

>>102728144
As if you will cuck. You are doing the same thing that let them trick you for years.

>>102721187 (OP)
>https://www.twitch.tv/momo
wait what does momo have do with vshojo?

>>102728183
>he doesn't know

>>102727434
She's gonna graduate lmao

>>102728179
Present evidence.

>>102727913
Never said Kenzo did anything, I said "a manager". Who did she ask to contact Froot? Gunrun personally?
>>102727964
If they are all actually great workers and the only problem was the executives, why hasn't anyone come out and said this? It's true that people have focused their ire on the C-suite, and for good reason, but that doesn't mean the company was run very efficiently otherwise. You're talking about systematic, full-level dysfunction in every level of operation - that's not the kind of thing that happens just from poor leadership.

>>102728183

>>102728060
>>102728179
The difference here is we have actual evidence against MTD, Apek, and Gunrun. So unless you have evidence Mel did ANYTHING, shut up. Lmao

>>102728222
Of what? Apek literally cooked the books. At minimum she's a retard who dates a piece of shit.

>>102728232
>Who did she ask to contact Froot? Gunrun personally?
Literally yes.

>>102728183
She is not supposed to be in the OP, some rogue baker must have done it.

>>102728264
And under no circumstances will I hit Mel with guilt by association.

>>102728260
no I'll keep talking about how she is living with the guy who controlled the financial statements and has gone AWOL and no one is defending her besides retards like you. No vshojo backs her up.

>>102728232
>systematic, full-level dysfunction
>not the kind of thing that happens just from poor leadership.
you really should stop retarding our thread

>>102727243
I appreciate you sharing this, it was great.

>>102728260
We have evidence Apek, former COO / CFO of vshojo, is Mel's bf. From there we don't know if mel knew what was going on with the company her bf was running.

>>102727243
If it serves as any consolation, the concert might have her.

oh snap
that's right
ironmouse was actually a careerist opera singer before she got sick

That's cool desu

>>102728260
Given that Mel lives with Apek, seems like there is evidence against her?

>>102728340
So just to be clear, the argument here is that the VShojo executives were terrible at their jobs, completely incompetent, lazy, vindictive, malicious and all-together awful - but they were great at hiring. Every single person they hired was solid gold.

>>102728361
There is no actual evidence that they are dating

>>102728361
nyan also unfollowed mel the only one out of all the girls

>>102728361
No we have the word of a less than trustful scumfuck that they were bf/gf 5 years ago. Thats it

Checking Mel's discord and she still hasn't posted anything since this all went down. She was online tho and her status message was pic related. I guess people are trying to message her but she's chosing to not reply to anything

*suckles on Apek's cock*
Present evidence
*snorts Apek's semen out of Mel's ass*

Is Geega unironically into boys

>>102728381
>careerist
she was in school for it, she wasn't a pro.

>>102725192
Who's the artist?!

>>102728451
Well yeah because she got sick.

>>102728222
Mel posted from Apek's computer, had a 3D streaming studio in his house, and moved to Japan with him? I guess, technically, it's possible he never mentioned to her how he was cooking the Vshojo books?

>>102728415
>>102728438
Delusional retards are completely zoomer brained and can't actually parse information, they rely completely on what others tell them to think...

>>102728183
momo was signed for a time and then let go, sounds like she was meant to debut right after the original group

>>102728416
Vei unfollowed mel too

with anyone and everyone talking about a connection to Vshojo pulling in numbers on it, do you think this shot of adrenaline for the western scene will see long term growth?

>>102728487
this is not an uncommon situation. i don't know why you're acting like it.

>>102728446
Fucking STRAIGHT white bitch, this is a lesbian website.

Aethel can you please force Nyan to refollow Mel on Twitter so that this retard stops sperging about it.

>>102728361
all i want is for that fucker to get exposed for his vsj fuckups
however I really cannot stop thinking about why nobody fucking NOBODY reacts to Mel or even acknowledges her existence even before she posted she was going away on break

>>102728441
I remember during the first exodus she was the most broken up member on stream
so whether she's complicit in anything or not, this still tracks for her

>>102728528
Yeah, I also live with Apek and stream from his studio, and I'm a fat old white guy. Mel had to be innocent.

>>102728526
It's the opposite, the second largest EN vtubing org blew up. It's going to inhibit growth for years if not cause permanent damage.

>>102728446
So that's why she made that tweet!

>>102728361
hey, bf/gf is completely unfounded. you should try to say it properly; in 2020 during a CB stream mel accidentally revealed via browser history that she was streaming from apek's computer. for all we know mel could just straight up BE apek.

>>102728441
>she still hasn't posted anything since this all went down
Her last post was on the 22nd praising Mouse's charity success so that's not entirely true.

>>102728413
they were terrible at their jobs, and hired a bunch of people that successfully exploited company until it folded to shit. This happens left and right, that's why oversight of execs are in place - to control and correct

>>102728446
big boys or small boys?

>>102728487
That pic was from 2020, though.

vei broke NDA and still didn't say a thing about mel. but she did say vsj staff came here to spread lies

>>102728528
It's not common for a fraudster working a his significant other's company will keep them in the dark about his fraud
But Mel is a retarded women, regardless she was happily living off misappropriated funds for years.

>>102728487
Theres nothing showing that was his house and not just mels

>>102728232
>that's not the kind of thing that happens just from poor leadership.
That is literally what causes it. With the abundant examples that we have of how these idiots tried to lead this company, the lower level employees can only do their best. A company of this size, the C suite is making every major decision.
The COO is a gay furry who by all accounts is lucid for maybe 30 minutes a day looking for his next hit and a ride to the orgy. The CEO never had any genuine plan beyond "i'm gonna get hololive this time, for sure!", and definitely take them on in their home turf with two (2) talents. The CFO greenlit the Shinjuku advertisement plan, before having any idea on how to actually establish any sort of actual merch sales or plans to keep the company afloat.

>>102728618
small

>>102728487
If he understood what he was doing was wrong then yeah I completely believe he wouldn't say a word to her, and I'm willing to bet if he mentioned anything at all he presented it in a completely wrong light

>>102728413
That's actually quite common

what did vshojo even see in tori?

>>102728526
Probably not. It's just the existing Western vtuber fandom temporarily shifting around for drama. The Lost Girls might get a some actual growth from it. The normies funneled in by big streamer and news coverage are likely to just take a peek, say "ew", and leave.

>>102728416
So? Nyan was still following gunrun

>>102728580
That's not how I remember it. I don't remember her making an official statement

>>102728680
she's a yapper, she'll pop off

>>102728413
Yes.

Bit by bit the blind Mel defenders are getting silenced

>>102728680
ask panini

>>102728610
You're ESL. Anyway, incompetent, lazy people tend to hire fellow incompetent slackers. They can also hire and manipulate actually talented and dedicated people to do all the work, but they tend to be just as bad at hiring as they are at everything else.

>>102728619
Apek selling his house the month Mel moved to Japan and having a 3d streaming studio in the house was from 2 months ago? Is it late 2020? Is time meaningless?

>>102728710
official statement? bro I am just talking about her first stream after they left where she was sobbing

>>102728526
Beri and Pia already had a fanbase/community so they may get a slight boost. Especially with Pia doing concerts
Tori probably not, but maybe some poor sap will fund her model

Mel did it because the accusations make her horny. You're giving you exactly what she wants by accusing her.

>>102728526
No. Some people are going to exploit the power vacuum that used to be vshojo and see significant growth for themselves, but as a whole the market is shrinking already since covid and vshojo exploding is only going to scare away outside money.

>>102728680
I see the vision personally

Bit by bit the blind Mel haters are getting silenced

>>102728637
Us property records show Apek's legal name owned and sold the house? Are you accusing Mel of committing identity theft? Do you realize how insane you sound?

>>102728800
Your response to
>>102728755
?

doubt it. the blind mei haters got silenced suddenly all at once.

>>102728759
Yea because she and her bf can't make money off of them anymore lmao. She never once said anything directly to those who left

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure mel is completely innocent, with all the stuff that happened this last week...
but at least wait until an ounce of credible evidence surfaces before giving it for certain
so far there's been 0 evidence proving she's involved in any way
no one has mentioned mel in any of the many statements we got so far

What is the point of arguing with mongoloids from who knows which doxxnigger forum?

>>102728755
Shhhh. The innocent little poptart fans don't like facts

>>102728590
you really think so? I feel if anything this just proves what has already been known for at least a decade since the OG youtubers drama is that you don't need a company to own you, you are much better off owning your company. Like someone said earlier, hire your managers, don't be hired by a manager. I'm just surprised how many of my friends who have never watched a vtuber in their life have come to ask me about Ironmouse, Vshojo, and some of the members. It's funny I had a buddy over awhile ago who showed up right when my Ironmouse figure did so I had no choice but to explain to him, he looked at me like I told him I eat paste, and now he has been sending me Shylily clips the past three days because Moist Critikal talking about the drama made him go down a rabbit hole

>>102728876
If you unironically think the connection to apek is "0 evidence" well... that helps explain the state of the world today

>>102728832
Show the property records.

>>102728680
for sure she can cover a niche the other girls cant, zooming yapping gamer

>>102728876
I mean, there's incredibly credible evidence that her partner was the COO/CFO that was aware of the embezzlement. But you are correct. He could have masterfully mislead her about the companies dire financial situation.

>>102728876
thats what I have been saying also if the only "evidence" is coming from Digi take shit with an extra grain of salt since he has a vendetta against her since 2021

As someone who is ready to hate, i don't want to watch the streamers mint was bringing in , because Im worried they are going to be mid as fuck and i love mint. I'm being real and i know Im autistic

>>102728899
It's just MTD and Gunrun samefagging, just ignore

>>102728399
>GUYS I HAVE EVIDENCE SHE LIVES WITH APEK HERE *violently shits* WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?

>>102728995
They weren't meant to be good streamers. They were meant to be good idols.

>>102728825
The wedsite posted doesn't mention his name at all

>>102728995
She's not forcing you to watch them anon

This conversation is only gonna fall in people who want to have a gotcha.
For all we know, Apek is someone that needs to be point down, and who's in deep shit. As for his relationship with Melody and her innocence, there's nothing there to accuse her other than that. If you think she's involved, I do think Vei or Nyan would not have an issue to telling it, but I will reserve my judgment until Nyan or Mouse fully speaks about it.

>>102728963
>dirty doxx nigger!! Liar!!
>also doxx her more we'll totally believe the evidence you uncover and not just timeloop about old drama pretending every image is from 2020
that's a lmao

>>102728953
>>102728981
you have to make several logic jumps to reach to the conclusion that mel was involved in the financial status of the company from that

>>102728963
They are a matter of public record. They were posted but got deleted for obvious reasons. Search house listings from May 2025 in Chicago under Apek's legal name and you can see Mel's old studio, like people in this thread did earlier today.

>>102729067
I know she's not.
but im worried if i watch them and all of them are shit,it might effect how i see mint.
And i'm not willing to hate mint.

>>102728640
Preferably japanese.

>>102728625
This. Also NDA wasn't a real one, since the VShojo Lawyer was just someone who studied it for a degree and stopped.

>>102729080

>>102728991
Also whats even funnier is Nux is showing digis tweets on his videos
When he was the guy that helped Mel back then win her case against Digi and they were super super close that people used to think Mel and Nux were dating

>>102728639
I would be more willing to believe you if I didn't a) witness myself personally over years and b) hear so many stories about basic housekeeping that's out of executive purview not getting done. Emails went unanswered. Talents' basic requests went ignored. Everything was perpetually unfinished and massively delayed. The website was chronically underwhelming. Things would break constantly and go unfixed. If these kind of things are the responsibility of the C-suite, why did they have employees at all? You likely had something like 40 people working for the company and none of them could make a Minecraft server.

>>102728680
Did she just get her first schizoposter? That's how you know these three are doing well

>>102729151
D'aaaw. A screen shot from 2020 is totally current.

>>102729125
I agree. Her partner, the COO/CFO of the company, clearly never mentioned to her that the company was insolvent, even when he was apologizing to her that her merch sales couldn't be paid to her.

>BROOOOOOO MEL TOTALLY LIVES WITH APEK!
Prove it.

I stand with Apek and Mel because I support wmaf

>>102729223
I accept your concession

>>102729095
Post the property records. You reference them plenty of times.

>>102729342
They're both white bro

>>102729044
but it was the same address listed under apek's name on the filing for vshojo inc, you saying he bought a house for Mel to live in alone and publicly listed it as his own?

>>102729368
What the fck....

what I'm still hung up about is how Kaho talked about revealing peoples "marital status" like how many of the girls are married?(other then the obvious one)

>>102729340
The same month that Mel moved to Japan a person with Apek's legal name listed a house for sale in the city his linkedin listed as his home city that featured a streaming studio in the real estate listing.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

>>102729347
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME!
>ALSO I TYPE LIKE A RETARDED DEATH BATTLE POSTER ON /co/!
Holy. Shit.

>>102729365
Soooo.. you're just a tranny janny upset about being wrong for 4 years huh?

>>102729414
>other then the obvious one
yeah, geega
to me

>>102729414
Here is a pic on our wedding day

>>102729449
So you're just here to shit the thread without evidence to present.

>>102729414
Assume they are all married so you have a small chance of being pleasantly surprised.

>>102728232
>why hasn't anyone come out and said this?
Sayu did with Nijisanji and look how fucking WELL it went.
You are unironically fucking retarded.
Get a job, and then try to raise a stink over mismanagement (wouldn't be hard, because 90% of corporations fucking ran on bureaucracy and blue tape holding it all together and it's a shitshow everyone knows about but nobody talking about it), see what happens.

>>102729437
>The same month that Mel moved to Japan a person with Apek's legal name listed a house for sale in the city his linkedin listed as his home city that featured a streaming studio in the real estate listing.
Prove. It.

>>102729437
i saw the photo
why would you leave a cowboy bebop portrait as part of the house
why would you leave so many fucking hooks on the wall

>>102728503
I think it was meant to be with the original group going by the timeline she gave, like she may have been one of the very first people approached

>>102729483
this is the most real take haha

>>102729477
Two white people mysteriously move to Japan (extremely expensive) months before this shit blows up.
You think that's normal? lol

>>102729521
ghost in the shell poster too

>>102729518
this was once revealed to me in a dream

>>102729470
WHAT'S WRONG WITH HER HAAAAAAAANDS!?!?!?!??!!?

Kuro is my boywife

>MEL TOTALLY IS GUILTY AND TOTALLY LIVES WITH APEK
>Vei, Nyan, Silver, Mouse, Zen, Matara and Geega, Kson and Henya don't mention any of this.
>NO TOTALLY BELIEVE ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>102728595
>for all we know mel could just straight up BE apek.
Now THAT would unironically be the Tzar Bomba of all nukes.

If you're taking the fact that they haven't replied to the tweet as proof that they know something why are they still following? If you're taking Nyan unfollowing as evidence why didn't either she or Vei say anything remotely implicating her? Why wouldn't Mouse mention it to Aethelflad in the Check DM stream if she knew something? He believes all the girls are innocent. Doesn't make much sense to me

what are odds that
>marriage with melody
anon was just apek flexing?

>>102729518
Dude, the LLC listing from Delaware, the Zillow listing, and the photo of the streaming studio were posted in this fucking thread less than 12 hours ago.

>>102729521
Removing hooks = holes = looks worse >>102729574
They also don't defend her
People leave things behind they don't have space for

Jesus Christ this whole Mel shit is so retarded
They most likely dated and she started her 3D cam days there but it has been proven that she moved and lived in a condo/apartment complex for some time now
Specially with all the water damage she has been trough from her neighbors unit and also them complaining about the noise she makes when she streams
Also there is that story about her picking up her food delivery and getting locked out in the middle of the night WHILE ON STREAM

>>102729414
Hime is a pure maiden, I won't accept any slander about her secretly having a partner.

>>102729340
>asking for doxx
are you retarded?

>>102729623 (me)
again if a girl comes out and says she knew then or should have known then fuck her
but even yesterday while Aethel was looking ta Mouses DMs he was saying all the talents are victims

>>102729151
Again, their relationship has nothing to do with whatever it has been said. If they are married, well sucks for her to be with a conman, this doesn't translate into being involved otherwise there would an accusation by someone.
Also as someone pointing you out, that's an old screenshot.

>>102729617
So post it again or fuck off lol

>>102729518
It was revealed to me in a dream
>>102698174

>>102729621
They threw MTD, Apek, the lawyer and Gunrun in the line of fire. If Mel was involved, she'd be in the line up too, you absolute idiot.

The existing talents doxxing/nuking Mel doesn't look good for them, but you'll probably eventually see it as this shit proceed legally. Would Mel letting her partner conceal Vshojo's embezzlement "break Mouse's heart?"

so no new happening? boring

>>102729414
Anon, don't limit yourself to VShojo, if said person is Alex. it also involves HoloEN lol

>>102729654
NTA but for the record 90% of this thread would already get you banned by mods if they gave a shit. A bit late to worry about doxx for the retards engaged in this shit.

>>102729707
Dumbass.

>>102729709
Just Camila but it was a nothingburger
most of the stuff we already knew, its just she also was part of the first auditions

https://poal.me/4s2p2m
https://poal.me/4s2p2m
https://poal.me/4s2p2m

>>102729690
Ok but the same people defended gunrun, mtd and apek for years

>>102729681
Those posts certainly don't look deleted, cowards.

>>102729742
who was the person they hired that they knew instead of doing the auditions?

>>102729707
>existing talents.
WHAT. TALENTS? THEY ALL LEFT. VSHOJO'S NDA IS NULL AND VOID. THERE'S NO LAWYER UNDER VSHOJO MANAGEMENT! Holy fuck. If Mel is guilty, she'd have been listed amongst the guilty party, you fucking RETARD.

>>102729734
i like camimi but this attentionwhoring is getting annoying already

>>102729492
The company is over man. I'm talking about what people are saying in public right now.

>>102729787

>>102729734
3 year long grudge over not getting a job

>>102729734
why is she becoming radioactive on purpose?

>>102729769
>gunrun mtd and apek defended themselves on /vt/
Yeah, vei confirmed they all come here and shit talk past talents they hired.

>>102729791
>VSHOJO'S NDA IS NULL AND VOID. THERE'S NO LAWYER UNDER VSHOJO MANAGEMENT!
The NDAs are still actionable. Gun still had his personal money to fund a lawyer if he so chooses.

>>102729681
they won't reply because you're right

>>102729734
griftmila...

>>102729764
there is only one right option

Anyway Pia live
https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73kDdxWZNMk

>>102729841
AND HE HASN'T. VEI AND NYAN KNEW THIS. SILVER KNEW THIS. MOUSE, KSON, HENYA, ZEN, MATARA AND GEEGA KNOW THIS. HE HAS. NO. MONEY.

>>102729815
I want to give them a pass because the auditions were a total shitshow, but it's such a small thing compared to the genuinely evil shit they did to other people that trying to jump in with this is kinda dumb.

Piapiufo confirming there is a 4th monster girl but it's not her place to name her and she may show up in the future

>>102729681
oh shiiiit
big if true
true if big and viceversa the other way around

>>102729930
>confirming
Hasn't this already been confirmed several times now?

>>102729813
you know, not that I'm trying to push any of the blame off of people like Gunrun, what they did is beyond negligence, but I do gotta wonder if things would have gone better for them if half their members didn't stream once every three months kek

>>102729927
Nah genuinely anyone that came out with the "I was ghosted after a job interview" story is acting like a leech

>>102729930
>somehow....
>/in/ posting returned

>>102729889
Lawsuits have to be served, if you were unaware. They can be avoided for quite sometime. Especially civil suits. When you go to file you have to 1. have the person served 2. have the serve notice mailed to their address in a certified letter, and 3. have a law enforcement agent deliver it as well. Then shit happens. This can take time.

>>102729813
What is the likely hood Haruka was told this and that's what contributed to her severe imposter syndrome and frequent hiatuses(among the usual nepotism shitting over on Twitter)

>>102729604
>girls still respect her enough not to reveal her relationship status, something she obviously wants to remain hidden
>can't even begin to talk about it without revealing it
that shrimple. it means they don't think she's exactly complicit, but she is dating the guy who is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KnQiZ7pbY

is 150 on youtube and 250 on twitch enough to live off of
asking for a friend

>>102729972
The may show up later is interesting

>>102729989
Everyone was /in/ at one point of another

>>102729930
fifthportalbros, we can still win

>>102729836
Yeah you didn't have the wool pulled over your eyes for years
Clown

>>102730006
I don think they did but I have a feeling MTD kinda bullied her and that made shit worst

>>102729621
>They also don't defend her
Are you retarded? By your logic, if you don't mention Epstein list every 5 minutes, you pretty much fucked kids there. Touch fucking grass.

for the record i'm not on the epstein list

>>102730008
Or she hasn't been dating him since 2020

>>102730066
FUCK HOW DID YOU KNOW

TICK TOCK MEL

>>102730088
Fuck off Trump

>>102730066
Lol you know Maxwell was basically epsteins girlfriend?

>>102729985
I mean at least back in the day it was totally understandable for people like snuffy and anny who were as /in/ as it gets to vent their frustrations

>>102730008
And that's what I'm saying, there's a big jump between complicit to being her partner which is the thing being discussed, I do not hold accountable until proven guilty.
I'm saying this as a person who also never saw Mel that much, so I don't have a particular bias.

>>102730088
ok gunrun

>>102730088
But are you on the Vshojo list?

>>102730051
Hiiii Gunrun, they removed your emote from twitch. HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>102726412
who is juni?

>>102730119
>basically girlfriend?
The term you are looking for is beard

>>102730018
150, 250 what viewers? a decent 3 view who can get some sponsors can live off of it in a less affluent area.

>>102730092
that doesn't answer the question of why none of the ex-vsjs have even mentioned Mel at all with regards to this situation, like it's actually fucking weird how even her name hasn't left their mouths during any of their vent sessions

>>102729796
>Why hasn't anyone come out and say this?
You are unironically autistic.

Did Geega really imply there were pedos in Vshojo and then not elaborate for an entire day?

>>102729681
The assertion that those are ethernet port is retarded. They're the same metal hangers that you see up close. It's a room with a fuck ton of metal hangers

>>102730018
Depends on the lifestyle

>>102730192
You unironically have no argument and it's not even clear you understand what I'm saying.

>>102730173
Juniper Actias, moth vtuber

>>102730196
Waiting for the Mouse nuke

>>102730176
thats good, my autistic brain cant help but worry over her and beri and tori

>>102730190
Because she probably was fucking blindsided by this and went to kill a bunch of people.

>>102730196

>>102730018
If they all live in countries where a sub costs 5 American bucks and they all subbed you would make about 1500 bucks that could be enough depending on where you live,for me I would be able to get by but I would need to be penny pinching and saving up would be extremely hard (I make less than that RN tho :(

juniper has been a + since long before matara gave us more explicit bug girl representation

>>102730196
If she spills the beans on that particular can of worms and isn't directly involved she can be sued to hell and back.

>>102730310
Why tease it then?

>>102730119
>They also don't defend her
>Ghislane Maxwell
Nice non argument.
What you expect, them dropping google doc and going through everyone connected with Vshojo?

You watched too many tier lists, they are not obliged to list and give opinion on every single thing, you cretin.

>>102730190
That makes me curious, when was the last time and of the girls were openly friendly with Mel? Could it be they just drifted apart and that's the end of it?

>>102730196
It's Geega, she's probably to dumb to realize what that gif implies or she's self-reporting

>>102730337
then me and everyone else will continue to suspect her :)

>>102729734
camila stfu, classic attention whore

>>102730335
To apply more pressure and stir more drama. Teasing it like that can't get her in trouble, but it can sure as fuck make the person(s) she is referring to start to fucking sweat.

>>102730190
There's R0xy's comment on her, and if you think a person Mouse deeply cares about and who directly knows the nightmare that this has been, wouldn't know, you might actually be retarded. There's also Aethel saying all the girls are innocent.
It is worrying yes, and I don't think Mel is fully innocent, but there's a big jump to calling her a Sinder or Elira for example, those were actual complices.

>>102729734
>I don't think they ever regretted
is an amazing self own

>>102730274
Where did she say this?

>>102730249
Im really hoping they're gonna be getting a lot of hugs from people like zen and mouse (who said she wants to collab with Pia) that will help boost them

You dumbfucks, the kendrick posting from GEEGA happened when she found out camila had the song ready

>>102730473
Shut the fuck up MTD. We know you're a sex offender.

>>102730190
Rrat: They know Mel is dating/has dated Apek, but don't have proof that she was aware of/in on all the fuckery that was going on(believable since nobody knew how badly everyone else in the company was getting fucked over) and don't want to put her name out there especially since it'd involve doxxing her personal relationship

>>102730473
That's what the culprit would say!

>>102730473
why would geega celebrate camila outing haruka as a nepohire when she literally did a con show about how haruka wasn't a nepo hire?

>>102730473
No it isn't

>>102730470
Honestly I wish that all of them get to be mid-high 3 views, that lets them stream freely and grind at getting bigger.

>>102730509
This is probably close to the truth actually

Ya'll stupid motherfuckers really made me have to look up how to find deleted posts.

>>102730532
>haruka wasn't a nepo hire

>>102730549

>>102730549
>deleted posts.
They literally weren't deleted.

>>102730601
They just left all the vr stuff on the walls? Lmao

>>102730249
normally nowadays I'd tell you it is plausible yet they might be cutting it close with how viewers have changed in the past 5 years. but they are vtubers and they have big spending communities pushing for them. So I'd say they are going to be fine

>>102730238
Sex the moose

>>102730549
>look up
retarded newnigger

>>102730601
merely a coincidence

>>102730236
>They obviously should've come out and defend her
>Because... just because, alright!
>And you have no arguments!
Dude, if you have no life to the point that you stick your fucking nose into everyone's business around you IRL, it's on you. If you are so jaded that you expect the same fucking shit from other people, yet alone adults, you need to lay down hollywood and anime slop.
Grow up. I am not going to explain basics of human behaviour, specifically the concepts "People give more shit about things affecting them personally, and are more vocal about remembering everything bad than every good" and "If people actually had solid evidence of foul play, Melody would be dragged through the dirt already, or at least hinted at"

If the people that are actually involved involved, at the very best, are not sure\confused about situation with Mel to mention anything bad, who the fuck are you to sperg about it? Are you Apek? Are you Digi? Still mad she threw you away? Go get the ice on that burn then.

>>102730549
you mean you didn't know?

tob is a + right, sorry i'm new here

>>102730598
Congratulations, you green texted a portion of the sentence I wrote and posted a reaction image.

>>102730654
true

>>102730601
I’ll say the same thing I said the first time I saw this: That’s suspicious. Not sure what else you want to hear.

>>102730601
This is so damning you have the TV stand even a stand for the keyboard and then all the power outlets and the thing up top for her VR 3D shit

>>102730632
>vr stuff
They're metal brackets, not anything you'd hang a tracker on.

>>102730008
Exactly what happend with Sinder btw. Bao and friends already knew her manager was her BF but didn't wanna talk about it even though they knew it was affecting everything simply because they didnt wanna bring that fact to light for everyone to know.

>>102730682
fuck off

>>102730687
no I quoted you

>mtd no longer VIP in mike's chat

>>102730670
No if they had evidence theyd be quiet while suing her

>>102730601
Reminder MTD actually went there to set the vr tracking up. Mel probably fucked him while Apek watched lol

It's totally okay to be weirded out by the Mel stuff and be suspicious of her. It's not okay to go full "MEL IS AN EVIL RETARD" without any real proof. A bold and controversial stance, I know.

>>102730760
no, you're quoted a quote

>>102730680
Kek, and now he knows why no one was directly reposting it

>>102730816
Why are you (or people) taking the exact opposite retard stance of 'DINDU NUFFIN' tho

>>102730601
now that is some oof

>>102730852
you are dumb as fuck

>>102730667
>merely a (((coincidence)))

This is a new low even by this thread's bottom-of-the-mariana-trench low standards.

We some dedicated idiots today huh?
No point in replying to them
The truth will come out regardless

>>102730969
Keep tricking retards into posting >>102730601
So you can ban them apek

>>102730852
>Demanding proof Mel was involved before crucifying her is claiming she "DINDU NUFFIN"
You are genuinely retarded.

>>102730996
it's digi and mtd just replying to each other

>>102730996
I hope it dies when things settle down

>>102730682
yes, she's a + through pink cat

guys... please.... post gooder

>>102731057
I doubt any more tea is going to spill anytime soon, so get used to it.

>>102731067
No. We will exclusively post badder until Melody makes a statement.

>>102731023
Apek I hope you and mel live a great life in Japan from the money you guys made off of your "friends" while they weren't getting paid

>>102731057
I hope every fag involved in this conversation eats a ban.

>>102731021
But then you disregard proof and ban the posters?

>>102731089
When is Mikey Gonzales going to drop his statement though, that's who we really need to hear from

What is gunrun doing now

Henya is playing Megaman 2
That game is my childhood
You retards enjoy whatever dumb ass shit is going on here.
peace

>>102731067
Pia just had a whole talk about how much of a fujo beri is. The bug frigthens the slime.

>>102731107
Do you think you're replying to a mod lmao

>>102730852
Here in the land of the US we believe in "innocent until proven guilty" third world shitter

>>102730996
I know even if the house is sold posting straight up addresses with full legal names this is not kiwi farms

>>102731122
Mikey made his statement. He hates Vshojo and will defend his wives till the very end.

>>102730996
what did you expect? thread is mostly comprised of dramaniggers and shitposters

>>102730682
I like tob

I'm feeling like tacos tonight
Maybe even a quesadilla

>digi claimed apek would message him through mel's account and cause confusion on who you were actually talking to
>you now remember melody in the discord chat with gunrun, nux and phoenix (cyber security guy)

>Stages of grief
>1. Denial – The first reaction is denial. In this stage, individuals believe the precipitating event is somehow mistaken, and cling to a false, preferable reality. Some may also isolate themselves, avoiding others who may have accepted what is happening.

>>102730682
I thought Hamas had killed this bitch. Is she still streaming?

People don't really realize that if these events go to criminal or civil litigation, which it sure as shit seems like they might, a lot of these details are going to be public record. So speculating now isn't really necessary, although people are going to do it anyway so trying to police that is also folly.
This has the potential to probably the the first really interesting legal case in vtubing history but it's gonna take years to happen

>>102730601
I'm still stuck on this trying to figure out why there are so many metal hooks. And what is the black thing above the TV mount? Doesn't look like any lighthouse mount I've seen. And the weird black markings that seem to go around the bottom trim of the room.

>>102731203
At the exact same time she was doing a VR Meet and Greet no less lol. Talk about funny coincidence

>>102731122

>>102731129
selling all his assets to pay the talents. COPIUM

>>102731130
Henya is GYARI.
Enjoy your stream

>>102731107
>But then you disregard proof
Proof they are dating is not proof Mel is involved.
>and ban the posters?
I'm not a mod you schizo, take your meds.

>>102731153
Discussing the house or relationship at all is kiwi farms-tier shit. As a matter of fact, you are quite likely arguing with people from some kiwi farms offshoot.

>>102730996
>>102731105
>2. Anger – When the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue, they become frustrated, especially at proximate individuals.

>>102731244
He would've been a better ceo

>>102731130
Same. NGL though it feels a little soulless with how her chat is helping her out. Part of the fun of the games for me was figuring out what weapons worked with which robot masters, thanks to the internet not existing at the time.

>>102731105
And then promptly evades because it's piss easy?

>>102731225
yeah specially with Mouse in the middle of a lawsuit with them

>>102731244
Boy is weird but his heart is in the right place.

>>102731203
just a coincidence lol stop noticing things

>>102731310
Yeah
The fucking bubble power... Took me months to realize back then, because I hated using that power.

>>102731229
I remember this being a point to Mel's innocence during that whole thing and thought it was weird that Nux kept saying she was present and thought that he was just taking the fact that she was in there and saying nothing as evidence

But what if "she" was saying things? While she was at a M&G that there are witnesses to?

>>102731364
thats why hes the king

>>102731130
I've never played it, or any Megaman game (didn't really grow up with them, was more of a Pokemon person) before. Would it still be good to play these days?

it was taking a long time for the thread to get made so i stopped to piss anyway new thread
>>102731277
>>102731277
>>102731277

Nyan having another psycho arc instead of laughing at exploding dogs is old ladies falling off cliffs

>>102731203
>>102731229
It's all coming together. Soon the pieces will be in place and the truth will be revealed

>>102731203
pld don't use pphead for shitposts

>>102731418
Megaman was a product of its time and wears it on its sleeve. If framerate dipping into the single digits due to many actors on screen doesn't phase you then you'll enjoy it just fine.

>>102731418
I recommend playing the X series if you have never played them before and if you think the og mega man look too old or too slow

>>102731473
wtf...

>>102731418
I love the game, but I don't think it holds up, it's pretty sadistic, unless you're handheld by chat.

>>102731458
That's a point in Mel's innocence though. She would have had someone operating on her behalf through her without her knowledge

>>102731393
Then he would've known it wasn't her talking and wouldn't have said she was there.

>>102731627
You know you can message through text right anon? All the logs we have of that entire situation are through text, not recordings of voice logs or anything.

>>102728165
I dont remember posting this, but i am here for her and will always support her. i do love her with all my heart. i want to hold her close and let her know how precious she is and everything will be okay. then give those wonderful funbags the attention they deserve and afterward hand feeding her jerky while letting her know she is a very good girl.

>>102731310
She wouldn’t have even learned she could switch weapons in the first game without help.

>>102731871
Literal zoomer skill issue.

>>102731310
Soulless? Not to me, that's just the little sibling experience, where you teach them how to beat the boss after they failed 10 times

>>102731923
Yeah, but you can’t force a zoomer to engage with a game.

>>102731969
Brother she's being told which weapon to use on which robot master before she even enters the room.

>>102731871
>wouldn't know you can switch weapons
>bubbleman stage and the wily dragon fight hurt her eyes
Surely she's a special case, right? It boggles the mind how a generation that grew up alongside videogames would be worse at it than the ones that started out without them.

>>102730190
My head cannon scenario is that she was fucking/married to the manager but the girls simply don't know if she was knew/involved in the fraud.

Realistically it's not like she would be discussing management shit in depth and if it came up he would probably just say everything was fine, it's not like he would admit to fucking over all the people she knows.

But that leaves her in a position of being in a relationship with a person who screwed them out of millions and with someone they might now have to sue.

Also there probably kind of pissed of since with his position he almost certainly would have made sure she got all her payments to keep her happy and unaware meaning she was basically given the other girls money. She might even be somewhat invested in VShojo since she founded it.

It would explain why none of the other talents (other than Geega who I'm guessing tipped off mouse) seemed to have much clue this was going to happen, but mouse couldn't tell anyone in case it got back to Mel. But maybe they knew and where just faking it so they don't get sued for NDA. It's also possible they specifically didn't tell Mel and now things are in a awkward position.

It's also possible Mel/manager broke up or are now breaking up or she just found out about the fraud and is trying to pick sides. Maybe she will just stick with the guy who stole money. For all we know shes pregnant or some shit. Hell they might even have a child.

I did think Froot might have been in the same position but I think I saw her on the con collab.