Waiting for that Model Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/MadouZakura/status/1948563217560863049

/xvsj+/ includes:
Ama - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102735916

fuck you.
vei was right.

I love lewd waifu Mouse.

>>102742291 (OP)
>Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo
This one was never even signed and should be removed desu.

Cute. Mint was sad that she didn't get to call Henya senpai, so Henya told her to do it anyway.

Why is Henya streaming so late?

>>102742330
We like Vei now, be nice.

>>102742330
Still dislike her because she hates vtubing.

>>102742343
fuck off Geega

>>102742364
she no longer has to follow the vshojo timeslot

>>102742364
Has a collab with Kson in like 4 hours and decided to keep streaming until then

I hope mel is doing well in her $500k Japanese apartment

>>102742344

>>102742364
no sudden meetings. or grinding money like ababababa

How can I put myself as bait so that Geega would sexpest me

/big/ here. You really should merge so we can finally put those 3-view shilling /lig/gers in their place.

>>102742461
Deage until you are 8

>>102742469
eww

>>102742469
nyo

Peke...

>>102742469
I'd rather invest money into Gunrun's next failed endeavor.

>>102742469
I'd rather go to /lig/ honestly

>the dream team
its never coming back...

sherlock-rrater, are there innocent talents in vshojo?

>>102742547
Trust

>>102742535
needs an update

I'm compiling a list of people who are/were owed money from VShojo
Here's what I can recall, let me know if I'm missing something or if I'm wrong
>$500k to the IDF
>The equivalent of a house to Mouse
>The equivalent of a Ferrari to Kson (Likely over $200k)
>An undisclosed amount to Henya
>An undisclosed amount to Michi
>An undisclosed amount to Zen
>An undisclosed amount to Kuro
>An undisclosed amount to Mint
>All the other new hires (Beri, Tori, Feebee, Pia, and others who have yet to be revealed) also had debut budgets they received no compensation for
>Nova is owed merch money from their debut, valentine's, and birthdays
>Geega is owed "something"
>Nyan was owed the equivalent of a Mercedes S-Class (Likely over $100k; according to her video she eventually managed to recover it thanks to a lawyer after she left)
>Silver was owed money (Likely has been partially paid overtime but she is still owed money for tons of sponsors like Smite and Ironside)
>Vei was owed money for sponsors (Only some of it got paid overtime, not all)
>Potentially money to Mata as well
>Bricky is owed $15,000
>Panora Virtual Reality Japan is owed money as well
>Various contractors and such
>Any lenders they borrowed money from
>A bunch of artists are either owed money or received it very late (if any notable artists in particular with a large sum let me know then I'll list them specifically)
>Half of this thread for shitposting about Vei without pay (for legal reasons this is a joke)

A Japanese cyptobro claims that there were talks to acquire VShojo for $2,000,000 that they ultimately backed out on since the financials of the business looked very unprofitable. This could possibly be a baseline for the total amount of money VShojo owes minus the lost charity money. But given the increasingly large list of debts it could very well be even higher than this.
>https://x.com/CL207/status/1947911415651512533

>>102742469
We love Nova no thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOS-e2d-cM

>>102742469
Fuck off, no one in either thread wants this

>>102742567
can't wait for the gtaRP fleshtuber gen!

>>102742567
Haggers org incoming

>>102742469
Eat shit

>>102742469
You don't speak for /big/ you just want to spread the shitposting to every other thread. Leave /lig/ alone already

>>102742469
xvsj+ is xvsj+, /BIG/ is /BIG/

>>102742469
I can't post about every ex-vshojo or their friends there.

>>102742469
The dynamic between /xvsj+/, /lig/, and /big/ is like the former Soviet Union: once they break away, there’s no going back.

>>102742567
women managing women!
its going to be gunrun x how many people join because no one will be able to admit they are failing.
pls god let her start one it would be so funny.

>>102742521
So it's in ~4 hours?

>>102742567
>Yet another vtuber org started by someone who has no idea how to run a business but is cocky as fuck they can succeed
Please fucking God no.

>Henya didn't even expect them to pay her from the get-go
Damn

ne

poggers

>>102742765
yes. 3:40

>>102742797
isn't it

>>102742773
lol why did she join then

>>102742826
Not that far back you retard

>>102742291 (OP)
>Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo
Why tf is this not removed yet. She has no justification in being part of the OP.
Even the guy who keeps saying to put Bat in the OP has a stronger argument than putting Momo on there.

Melody is evil. She should be my sex slave as punishment.

>>102742330
I already apologized to her several times, what more do you want?

>>102742842
Why do you autistic niggas always find some shit on the OP to fight over?

>>102742689
/xvsj+/ has successfully taken a few parts of /lig/ and /big/ and no one will care.
In the future /xvsj+/ will take over a neighboring puppet thread to use them to help attempt to take back the whole of /lig/ and /big/ with a flailing multi year campaign.

>>102742567
fuck it, let her do it
Can't be worse than what we've had until now

>>102742842
That settles it. We're replacing Momo with Bat!

>>102742891

https://youtu.be/j-KnQiZ7pbY

I'm so confused if Alex is the guy Kaho talked about now.
But it seems Gunrun fucking lied in the sheet lol

>>102742891
Ok what if she hired all male vtubers and 2 years down the line they all make a google dockey saying she sexually harassed them

>>102742882
Normally it's dumb but there is legit no reason for Momo to be on there

>>102742891
Step 1) Save money by hosting free parties in vrchat

>>102742891
>Can't be worse than what we've had until now
Shut the fuck up you retard

>>102742890
It's like 10 people calm down

>>102742975
*gtarp

guys i'm joining geegojo

vshojo failed because haruka wouldn't hit go live

>>102743039
Congrats, bao

vshojo failed because geega wouldn't hit the griddy properly

i dont mind giving vei 50%

>>102742891
>Can't be worse
AIEEE CURSE OF RA

>>102743035
and then the org fails because no one shows up and doesnt respond to messages because they never logged in to slack

vshojo failed because geega played GTARP

Vshojo failed because they never hired Geega

vshojo didn't fail, (You) failed vshojo

>>102743159
Shit true, the 500k were in my bank account all along

>>102742364
Power limit's been disabled. The kettle is about to pop the fuck off.

I failed geega...

>>102743204
>Check her stream
>She's just casually playing Subnautica and discussing the game
Wow yeah bro she's really popping off in there!

>>102743261
how could you

Vshojo failed because they hired a bf of a camgirl as their COO lmao

vshojo failed because they never released a geega daki

>>102742469
Fuck off falseflagger

Vshojo failed because FROOT DIDNT KEEP SHAKING HER TITS IN FISHNETS N NIPPLE PASTIES GOD DAMN YOUUUuu

>>102743304
>>102743316
>Upper echelon of the company was made up of a cuck, a sexpest, and a schizo obsessed with the competitors
>None of these three even had the slightest experience in running a business
Honestly it's no wonder it went tits up.

>>102743304
Vshojo failed because half the talent they hired never streamed and they fucked over dozens who would have. If Gun really wanted the company to work he would have grown a pair and cut the dead weight and made sure only those who put in the hours to push the product were on the payroll. His only crime was being to nice, there I said it.

>>102743159
Damn. If only I was a retard and bought even more merch so that their dumbfuck mega concert marketeers wouldn't have had to dip into the talent's merch revenue, I could have saved Vshojo.

VShojo failed because Geega forgot to give them her used socks they were going to put on auction

Vshojo failed because I slammed my penis in the car door

>>102743273
>casually decides to do a 13 hour stream
Other late night vtubers should just neck themselves already.

An actually well researched news video.
https://youtu.be/9_dLgIg2loM

Vshojo failed because (You) didn't donate enough plasma

>>102743356
>form KatawaVShojo
>abuse disabled girls harem
We need to accept this was all just a fetish thing for him.

She said the thing
https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius/v/2522407761?sr=a&t=29431s

>>102743408
ur vid sucks

>>102743438
I FUCKING TOLD YOU WITHOUT VSHOJO HOLDING HER BACK HENYA WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO STOP HERSELF SAYING THE GAMER WORD

I'm kind of impressed by how successful Vshojo was, despite an absolutely dogshit upper management that was only a huge resource drain.

I've been watching since late 2021 I've never given a single dollar to these girls. No subscription, no merch, no nothing
Some people might call me poorfag but at least I didn't get scammed by gunrun

>>102743485
Some people claimed it's collapse is a sign this sort of business is hard to be successful. But if anything the fact that it lived this long in spite of having problems from the start showed that it can be very lucrative if executed right.

>>102743485
It wasn't successful. At all. They just had 11 million dollars to burn going into it, which was enough to float the company for a hot minute.

>>102743485
All the girls are varying degrees of really succesful
If anything the impressing thing is how an agency with such a strong lineup could kill itself like this

>>102743485
carried by the talents frankly. which is surprising considering they don't get nearly the views as big youtube vtubers like the hololives

>>102743528
I got a super fucking sweet Michi mousepad out of VShojo and Michi probably didn't get paid for it. But I also got a super fucking sweet mousepad out of it and I love it and I wanted another cool VShojo mousepad and then they never did another one and then the company died

>>102743533
>But if anything the fact that it lived this long in spite of having problems from the start showed that it can be very lucrative if executed right.
No it wasn't. It was a sign that you can string a business along for a few years if you have 11 million fucking dollars as starting capital.

>>102743414
I'm actually going for the first time next week as I just found out today I can donate. I always assumed I'd just be turned away cause I'm fat and smoke a lot of weed. But neither of that is a problem and apparently the heavier you are the more money you can make

>>102743485
You fell for Gunrun's narrative. He put on a big show to make it look like Vshojo was super successful when as a company it just wasn't.

>>102743528
I was going to say I paid 30 to watch the concert but I used my third world currency so it was actually like 7 bucks

>>102743553
Viewers on twitch are significantly more valuable than viewers on youtube (for some reason).

>>102743533
like other anons said before, all they needed was some evergreen merch. I only watched like 2-3 members but I'd still eat up any good looking piece of group merch they put out, they just never fucking did outside of specific holiday shit.

>>102743528
I only regret not getting the Ama mousepad because I need one, and the Nagi keychain.
At least Mata did get my Momo money (bought in the first batch) and the Bubi plush for Mouse.

>>102743345
>None of these three even had the slightest experience in running a business
Actually real, everyone thought gunrun had the backpack thing or that he did something important at twitch but neither of those things are true, he just made the initial backpack design and they did everything else and at twitch he was just an early rank and file. As for mtd, I guess he was experienced at editing meme videos and running his social media? Then Apek was just a virtual camgirl manager with an expired law license that jewed her original tech guy out of the picture. A lot of real big money moves under their belt!

>>102743485
VShojo managed to get some impressive vtubers together and had a too good to be true contract while also letting them keep their IP. It was the perfect way to attract 4views that didn't want to deal with a Japanese corpo especially before merch and sponsor opportunities for indies got built up.

Why is Michi's Tarot reading so cursed?
She already knew everything
https://youtu.be/JGfvl0KzTIE?si=xC4WZJa9pPqlMYQV&t=410

Fucking Deathsett lmao

>>102742965
https://youtu.be/_Mlf6wsCyUU You know nothing

>>102743616
YouTube's business model is based on using sheer volume to farm data to sell while Twitch directly monetizes each viewer.

damn, pia has been really riding that wave huh? I'm happy for her, she's been grinding forever

>>102743700
You know I thought Kuro was generic and lazy but I'd take that over Deathsett lmao

>>102743533
>>102743574
Being in the red for 5 years isn't unheard of for a business with this sort of reach. That said, they really weren't doing themselves any favors when they didn't scale back on their push so that they can steer themselves toward profitability with what they currently had.

>>102742343
No, fuck off.

AAIIIIIIEEEEEEE

>>102743770
>That said, they really weren't doing themselves any favors when they didn't scale back on their push so that they can steer themselves toward profitability with what they currently had.
I still can't believe he blew over a mil on fucking SUBWAY ADS IN JAPAN. Like what an absolutely pants-on-head retarded move. You know this dumb mother fucker looked at them and said:
>YEP, THIS IS IT BOIS. THIS IS WHAT WILL PUT US ABOVE HOLOLIVE!

>>102743733
Not like Twitch isn't selling your data and they are going hard with it. All the Dropboxes that force you to connect other accounts with Twitch. Nothing compared to Google/YT but still.

>>102743846
It was literally a dig at Hololive lmao

>>102743821
I can hear Aethel screaming various profanities from the other side of the country rn

>>102743846
dude probably did it hoping holoworkers would see it everyday and seethe

>>102743384
You th'lammed your peni'th in the car door?

>>102743846
They didn't even write in Japanese and didn't even use recognizable art, if people were meant to recognize.

>>102743846
Whose idea do you think it was
Sounds a little odd ir being gunruns idea considering he has more of a tech background
He certainly greenlit it tho

>>102743897
(Gravely) I thlammed my penith in the car door.

>>102743926
100% Gunrun's idea considering we now know hololive lived rent free in his head.

>>102743846
He was fucking with Cover.

>>102742842
>>102743701
She will not be removed from the OP, no matter how much you cry.

>>102743846
If nothing else they learned from it lol.
Look how much they cheaped out for Nova compared to those old ones with Ironmouse and Silvervale.

>>102744038
This poster tells you nothing lmao

now that the dust has settled, what did Aethel mean when he said
>THILVERVAAAALE

gunrun denied me getting to watch mata be the mommy bug doting on her daughter beribug

>>102743993
Ah yes, blowing over 1 million shekels on advertising to "fuck with" a rival corporation when your corporation is currently hemorrhaging money. Truly a 5D chess move here, as evidenced by how well it paid off.

>>102744123
Aethel was getting paid to anti Silver in this thread, which is why he had to sign an NDA

can we get the 8 hour marathon naked BLT yumping session with full titolies focus now that VShojo went under? Twitch can put it on the front page.

>>102743846
>>102743993
>doing all of this
>has the nerve to talk in Michi's chat while Ollie is collabing with her
Pisses me off

>>102742521
FUCK, same time as sonch and henya stream

(whispering softly) i think ironmouse should get sluttier & meaner

>>102744140

>>102744181
I agree connor

>>102744158
God I miss the yumping

>>102744024
The original Vtuber kettle, not the knockoff

>>102744205
i can attest that ladybugs taste bad

>>102744146
NTA but they probably thought this expenditure was something within an easily recoverable amount of money considering how long ago it was.
Man did they think wrong though.

I want to know if vshojo was why Mouse got rid of her nswf daki and never released the second nsfw daki

>>102744158
5 million dollars raised for charity guaranteed.

>>102743414
I gave blood once when I was a teenager, where I found out I was O-, and then the fucking blood service kept pestering me for months afterwards, and I was thinking "fuck off, I'm not giving you shit now".

>>102744278
Is that you peepeehead?

>>102744140
If you want to mess with alternate timelines, let's change shit up even more.
>mint joins the company
>michi joke yuri arc is with her instead of numi
>michi drops the joke arc when Mint starts bonding with Beri more about MGS
>starts a yap podcast with Tori instead

Is Mint really such a huge weeb that she wanted to be part of the JP branch and wanted to call older members senpai?

>>102744330
NGL, I personally think she decided to clean up her act herself once she got "IDF thanks you and wants you to be our unofficial mascot" big.

>>102744389
Henya is her kamioshi, she wanted to sexpest her

>>102744330
Probably not

>>102744146
it's not about money, it's about the message

>>102744385
>michi joke yuri arc
It's no joke, the 2 will be maried by this time next year

>>102744293
Honestly the "Talent Freedom!" marketing strategy was dumb as fuck from the very beginning. That sort of tag line is great if you are advertising auditions, but if you're trying to get people to watch your talents? They aren't going to give a shit dude. Like did these fucking idiots think any of the people watching fucking Gura have even HALF a shit that she didn't own her IP? Like it's just so silly to have this as their slogan when vtuber fans don't care about that at all.

>>102744391
its literally this, why the fuck would vshojo give a shit if mouse was lewd with someone like Mel in the group. Anyone who thinks it was anything or anyone other than mouse wanting to clean up her image because of the people that were paying attention to her, which is a completely normal thing to want to do by the way, is fucking delusional or stupid.

>>102744427
You guys never learn...

I'm just saying if Henya had sex with Mint I would be okay with that

>>102744389
I didn't check the past threads, did we get a feebee (feebae?) yet or anything?

>>102744447
I want Purple Yuri to be real, don't ruin this for me! LETMEBELIEVEEEEEEEEEE

>>102744452
Mint would make that kettle boil, she's hotto sexo.

>>102744453
She showed a flower that was going to be the motif of her model but that's it

>>102744453
I think she is the only one missing

Could this make Froot and Vei stream regularly again?

>>102744432
The JP branch was established as a colonial company to extract fund for the EN branch. The ads are for talent to get roped into their mlm scheme.

>>102744432
>Honestly the "Talent Freedom!" marketing strategy was dumb as fuck from the very beginning. That sort of tag line is great if you are advertising auditions
Why do you think they plastered those ads in Japan?
It wasn't for the Japanese people to see and watch Vshojo, it was for JP talents to see so that they consider abandoning Holo/Niji to sign up with them.

>>102744427
It started as a joke, anon. I don't assume shit but before they got so close, it was a silly toxic yuri joke collab.

>Henya's in it for life, homey
OG dayo

>>102744516
It will take a miracle to get those two to stream regularly

>Henya talking about GTA RP
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU GUNRUN YOU DID THIS

Taito is pausing preorders of the kson figurine while they re-contract directly with kson as an indie. They are explicitly not canceling it. https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/d2122c1f45202fc84f74c32183fcbb9d4d9d4868

>>102744564
SHUT UP STUPID CHATTER

>>102744516
Froot gets 1 streams done and then she'll disappear for the next 5 months

>>102744474
Get a grip, man

>>102744595
She was already saying she got anxiety attacks again so probably, yeah

>>102744575
That's good. I assumed they'd be up for doing that but it's nice having it confirmed. And at least this way we know Kson will be getting paid lol

@geega

>>102744432
I think the least retarded interpretation is that it was all part of Vshojo's effort to present itself as the "good corpo", which is something they benefited from a lot throughout their existence, even if they didn't do much with it

>>102744575
I wish GSC would do that, I mean they might have no choice now that vshojo is dead

>Gunrun was utterly obsessed with poaching Niji and Holo talents
I'm starting to believe the "Saba was the third idol group member" rrat. Dude was collecting these girls like the fucking infinity stones, she'd be a god damn crown jewel.

>>102744651
Based hentai

>Henya discussion minecraft servers
I hope someone gets the ball rolling. Setting up a server that only needs to handle like 10 people at a time isn't all that hard...

>>102744677
I don't think they'd have enough money to pay her
Unless....

>>102744293
It was a signal to Kson and the holoviewers that knew their oshis were under strong permission control so you might as well check these vtubers out that are allowed to do whatever they want.

>>102744525
>tar.. tarent... tarent free.. tarent freedom.. tarent freedom de nani?
>bsho.. vshojo.. shojo? virgin?
>shrugs walks away and forgets about it

Michi and Henya been getting even closer off-stream.

>>102744776
I rook rike this and I say this

>>102744656
I mean their options are re-negotiate or try to get your money back from someone who probably can't pay you. Worst case scenario the talent takes a smaller cut out of it because they basically don't have the power in the relationship and GSC would probably realize that. Best case scenario they just say "here's the contract we gave them just fucking sign it and we'll pretend this never happened" lol. No idea how cutthroat GSC is though

>>102744677
At that point, they had nothing to offer her. Nothing in the coffers, they would need to take a big loan or something and I doubt Saba would even wanna go from one corpo to another. Probably didn't even attempt to talk to her

The ads should have shown their tits, the japs understand that language very well

>>102744721
They paid her money upfront in installments but couldn't make the final payment, nullifying the contract and previous installments kept as a penalty... oops.

>>102743345
>None of these three even had the slightest experience in running a business
backpacks?

>>102744677
I like to believe this is what Gunrun is going through now mentally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9vj2Wf57rQ

>Ignored by her 1st corpo
>Scammed by her 2nd
Punished Michi, a woman denied her whimsy

>>102743273
>9 hours 36 minutes in.
Plans to stream until collab with Kson.
You owe the acrobatic dogeza pyramid to kettle.

>>102744906
They came out and said he basically sold them the idea and let them use his name, he never ran it

>>102744677
>>102744677
>Gunrun was utterly obsessed with poaching Niji and Holo talents
I have serious questions with this rrat. People have been snowballing it on catalog but the sole source for it is vei. Who should know a lot about vtuber corpo owners negging on rival corpos, because thats what she is.

>>102744446
They would care because it affects how much they can make from her, they wanted a cash cow.
With how suddenly Mouse changed I 100% believe vshojo was the reason.

11AM PDT / 1PM CDT / 2PM EDT / 8PM CEST later.

>>102744951
go to sleep, mtd

>>102744976
im prepared

>>102744965
there is not a human being alive who would believe they would make more money on a SFW ironmouse Daki than a NSFW one

>>102744976
We, yes WE will be watching

>>102745007
It's probably more of a sponsor thing.

>>102744976
I shan't be watching

>>102745033
Yes you will

>>102744976
Man, I wish people would just use UTC for this shit.

>>102744951
>People have been snowballing it on catalog but the sole source for it is vei
aethel confirmed the shit about holo from an in person convo

>>102745007
>>102745028
I always thought it was weird Mouse would hide a good chuck of her personality just for money and clout, but if she was doing it to keep the company she loved alive I could see that.

>>102745007
it was VISA thing. they said: no money, too sexy

>>102744965
What sells it for me is the fact she didn't even answer people when they asked why.

>>102745028
>>102745064

anon come on man use your head. at least 2/3 of the company was ran by degenerates spewing money out their ass, you think they would give a shit about that for sponsors? It's because Mouse doesn't want people like that sweet lady who is the CEO of the IDF to see her swinging her giant latin tits all over the place when she talks about their largest advocate for their cause.

I too have an opinion

>>102745100
This shit was before she started working closely with the IDF

I wanted to ask you something, anon.
Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that you work for a certain company called "/xvsj+/" and let's pretend I'm its CEO too.
Let's say this company is lagging behind with the payments, let's also say you could buy an exotic sports car or even something more expensive with the amount of money /xvsj+/ owes you.
Let's also say the only reason people bother with acknowledging the existence of /xvsj+/ is you and your fellow unpaid employees, yes, you're not the only one who's not getting paid, and the company is nothing without you (plural), I am nothing without you (plural).
How many months can I go without ever paying you, and how many months would it take you to stop acting like the company is the greatest to ever exist in the field and the best family you could possibly hope for?
What is your upper limit anon? 2 years? Half a year?

>>102745145
go to sleep, geega

>>102745100
She got rid of the daki and stopped being degen in 2022 before she had anything to do with the charity.
I i genuinely don't think they would give a shit unless she was doing actual porn, which she wasn't.
Yes others were still degen but Mouse was the biggest and the face, think about it, even when they had not been paying her she still spammed sponsors to help the company.

>>102743700
My first nickname over internet was "deathwiz", but I was about 14 at that time.
Kuro, wtf.

No shot this happens

>>102745160
right, im not trying to say specifically just for the IDF. I'm saying in general mouse wants to look more professional, and that desire to be more professional is also what led her to be a much more proactive advocate for the IDF.

>>102745185
>don't think they would give a shit unless she was doing actual porn
This, Mouse has had things you could call nsfw on patreon for years and still does.

>>102743808
Based Chiitan. First with Kuro, then with Hestia.

>>102743700
>her vtuber lore: teehee I'm like so horny!
>his vtuber lore: bro I'm straight up retarded
Based Kuro

>>102745161
Depends what percentage of my income is the debt. If it just represents like 5% of my income, I can have a little patience

>>102745208
>mouse wants to look more professional
No, vshojo wanted her to be the perfect little vtuber cash cow.

>>102745207
if you were a fuckin trust fund baby or some dude that bought like 100,000 bitcoin when it was pennies then why the fuck not
although at that point you make yourself ceo or cfo for the second go around kek

>>102745208
this lines up pretty closely to the sudden change in personality

So many eggs in this world...

>>102745207
Isn't that the same guy that Gunrun tried to sell VShojo to?

>>102745207
culling the c-suite leeches with poor business decision making with someone competent at the helm might actually make a decent talent agency

>>102745239
Can you be my government?

>>102745270
and a surprising portion of them consumed in japan

>>102745161
Funny story about that: there once was an airline called west carribean airlines that was broke and didn’t have money. It couldn’t pay their pilots for over half a year. Yet they still continue to work for them because they had hope that the airline will pay them eventually. And with each month they didn’t get payed, the amount of money increased. If they would have quit, they argued they wouldn’t see the money they’re owed ever again. Sunk cost fallacy made them work for the airline. But they had to take a second and sometimes third job to be able to pay for groceries. Then one day two pilots reacted very poorly to a stall warning, the plane crashed and 160 people died. Partly to blame was the stress and fatigue the airline created.

I guess it’s something like that

>>102745270
geega, plz, concern about your own eggs

>>102745208
Being more professional did not increase her ability to raise money.
Her 12 hour charity stream in 2021 until the last few days was the fastest she has ever raise money, a loyal audience is all she needs and being herself was best for that.

>>102745298
I always see an egg on their dishes, either boiled for bento or cracked on hot rice to cook like that
Very eggpilled nation

>>102745161
reposting from a catalog thread:
Part of the reason the talents dont get paid in a timely fashion is because they recieve a profit cut and not a flat commission fee, so the merch has to be shipped out and all fees paid before the company can fully determine what the profit is and how much the talent is actually getting paid. On top of that, Vshojo was embroiled in merch controversy in 2023 working with two fulfillment companies that failed back to back and that led to delayed shipments even further in for runs announced between mid and late 2023, meaning that a 6+ month delay between a merch run and that merch's payment are to be expected and a year or more would not be uncommon.

>>102745260
alright well agree to disagree i suppose, either way I suppose we will pretty quickly be able to see who is right

I'm smoking something Jesse's cousin called Gunrun because it goes up in hella smoke

>>102745287
Sure

>>102745264
2 years ago Mouse was also separated with Nyan, likely guilt tripped to do a lot more sponsors from VShojo, likely was getting paid less frequently by VShojo, was fed constant misinformation likely to ruin her relationships with some other vtubers, and more.
All of that likely was a bigger factor to being depressed than Mouse being told to be less lewd.

>>102745333
That stream has not been beaten, in terms of speed by subathons or cycleathons until this drama.

>>102745299
Would you work one or two more jobs and wait until a coworker dies, then?

>>102742567
It's a hot dog stand

>>102745350
doesn't really explain sponsor money

>>102745264
Actually now that I think about it wasn't that also around the time she talked about trying to push Monke away?

>>102745351
>pretty quickly
If I'm right I don't think it will be imidialty.
I just thing we will get bits and pieces back as she opens up again.

>>102745351
I hope you will still support Mouse either way, the same as I will, even if I would prefer her to be more herself.

>>102745393
Maybe

>>102745377
No but I’m no pilot. Flying for smaller low cost airlines is always risky. It just goes to show how strong cognitive biases are

>>102744038
bruh the contrast on the main text is so bad I have to really look at it to read the nova logo, also why did they put vshojo and nova in a bunch of places and the only japanese on the poster is a little legal notice in the bottom left, some real "graphic design is my passion" type shit

>>102745427
I will always support Ironmouse no matter what she does. But I also understand that Mouse has made it very clear that she considers Ironmouse, that we see on Twitch.TV, to be a character. Admittedly, while she says this, she obviously heavily blurs the lines, but she considers Ironmouse a character that she plays, which is why she made the conscious decision to focus more on her brand image. She said almost this exact thing when she talked in her leaving Vshojo video how she didn't really take being a Vtuber seriously until she signed. Until then she was just a girl on the internet with a anime avatar, when she signed SHE decided to lock in and take it seriously and adopt an actual persona. Again she does blur the lines heavily though considering she doesn't have any other outlets.

>>102742535
Ayyy it's always nice to see my silly unity image concept pop up
>>Install fightcade

>>102745567
>to be a character
nta but no she doesn't its always been more her than a character, in fact she's less of a character these days, when was the last time Mouse really talked keyfabe, how she's the devil or brainwashed her family or all the other lore.
Taking it seriously mean it being a career.

>>102745567
>conscious decision to focus more on her brand image
This only happened after 2022 after vshojo was already having problems.
Mouse is not a sellout.

>>102744976
I am watching until first mention of gtarp

>>102745208
>and that desire to be more professional is also what led her to be a much more proactive advocate for the IDF
Think it's the other way around considering that Connor basically forced the issue via the first cycleathon years ago. Way back then next to nobody knew about the immune deficiency foundation so mouse was an unknown donor and recipient, allowing her to be as degen as she wants. Imagine the IDF seeing a 6 figure donation drop on their lap. They'd wanna know who the fuck this CdawgVA guy was and what motivated them to donate that amount. All of a sudden Ironmouse isn't that anonymous anymore.

Every streamer is playing a character, some a little more some a little less. But you're not getting the actual person, the one she is with her family, the one she is with her friends when you're watching a stream
I know some of you guys struggle with this concept, but that's the reality

Why does every interaction make it seem like Matara was right on the money about some things behind the scenes? GIVE US THE DEETS, I NEED TO KNOW

>>102745674
>last time Mouse really talked keyfabe
Probably a hair color mention then a of course it's pink followed by clueless spam this year. The other stuff I don't think since like 2022 or 2023, dropped with the shared lore or the Tonari animation.

>>102745674
guys come the fuck on, i dont mean a character as in a literaly fucking cartoon, i mean Ironmouse is a fucking entity in its own right. Its a brand, an IP, a toy she can sell for money. (not saying thats bad) Ironmouse is the product that the girl sitting in her room created. Not saying she doesn't love it and its not way deeper than that, but im saying thats how she sees Ironmouse. And I know im going to summon some special bullshit in saying this, but you can see the exact same thing in her very best friend Connor and his new perfectly curated squeaky clean monkey mascot

>>102745752
Reminder Connor talks about hentai, jerking off, porn, has a lewd audio book and is more degen than Mouse these days.
He has been just as big for the IDF and they don't care if he's a degenerate.

>>102745775
You mean Geega isn't an insufferable know-it-all behind the scenes? Wow, that's a relief

>>102744651
That's why NotGeega exist

>>102742343
Might as well add sayu

>>102745834
Quit crying already

>>102745827
She's probably way more chill, yes
Still a little cunty tho

>>102745816
>Its a brand
I wish people would stop with this dumb shit, you sound like a vshojo manager.
She's a fucking streamer, they make millions by being themselves and doing whatever they feel like.

>>102745834
Sayu was never under contract.

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>>102745834
This makes even less sense than adding Momo

>>102745873
>She's a fucking streamer, they make millions by being themselves and doing whatever they feel like.
both things can be true. I really don't understand how this is being taken as a controversial thing, literally everytime mouse has ever talked about her journey in becoming a Vtuber she says this exact thing im saying.

>>102745905
Yet again one of the only good posters in this thread

When Mouse teased that this pillow was coming out I was excited for another r18 pillow.
We never got the r18 version and I was disappointed.

>>102745998
>We never got the r18 version and I was disappointed.
VShojo took this from you

>>102742343
We're all moving to /lig/ after the drama is over anyways. Anons can put whatever they want in the OP.

>>102746021
We?.gif

>>102746018
It looks likely but who knows.

>>102745873
>She's a fucking streamer, they make millions by being themselves and doing whatever they feel like.
That's not true at all, parasocial-kun, they're acting for an audience, and believe me they're fully aware of it.
You are her audience, you're not her peer
And they certainly don't do whatever they like all the time

>>102746018
>Mouse selling out to the professional world took this from you
FTFY

>>102746053
Gunrun made this post.

>>102746070
Fuck off MTD

>>102745834
sayu applied in 2022 and got rejected, I still have the tweet screenshot

>>102745998
I did not like this. The proportions for almost everything Kap drew were off, but the potential was the. Now though... ho lee shit, all sex.

Which country you guys expect to find Gunrun and MTD?

>>102746107
If we add every chuuba who applied but got rejected, then we will soon end up adding half of /lig/ to the OP

>>102743485
It shows how scary popular the talents are, especially mouse.

>>102746130
America

>>102746142
>then we will soon end up adding half of /lig/ to the OP
We seem to be heading towards that already apparently

>>102746130
'Murica

>>102746142
the first several posts would be listing half the vtubers that exist or existed

>>102746053
Mouse has said that vtubing gives her the confidence to be herself even if its a more pronounced version of herself.
I don't think Mouse would like it being called acting.

>>102746142
We're basically /lig-3am&bat/ right now

>>102746142
what I wanted to say is that momo and mint signed contracts, sayu signed her divisional silver screenshots that she is sharing. she applied and got rejected in 2022 she then went to join niji. the rest is just her imagination

>>102745752
As an Influencer you don't need to be professional, that's not why they want you in the first place. They need folks that connects with the plebs that their professionals can't reach.

>>102746185

>>102746191
Don't worry, someone here is already campaigning on fixing the Bat part

>>102746215
This, people like streamers because they are relatable and human, if they went full professional no one would want to watch them even if brands loved them.

>>102746142
call the org indie

>>102746227
I wonder if just removing this cancer cell could have saved Vshojo.

>>102746185
It's acting as in performing. Not saying she's not genuine, just a version of herself which is performing for an audience of thousands of people
At least most of the time

>>102746227
Watch streams
Also watch Mouse doing recordings, she's a terrible actor.

>>102746274
God you sound like an insufferable cunt.
Mouse being herself > "professional" Mouse

>>102746273
Unfortunately Gunrun and Apek still exist

What time is the kson henya thing

Also underrated part of indie mouse is she kinda brought back ironleak. I wonder which killjoy in the back was stifling that

>>102746274
she literally labels certain models as specific Season or arcs as if it was a tv show

>>102746343
Time will tell what else they held her down on.

>>102746301
it just sounds like you are having a melty because you can't accept the anime girl isnt real

>>102746433
And you sound like you don't even watch Mouse.

Geegs gave a small teaser for the nun outfit that is gonna be for the duel debut with Mouse.

>>102746304
What dirt do we have on Apek?

>>102746492
>the duel debut with Mouse.
sad it's come to this

>>102746512
he couldnt operate quickbooks properly

>>102746492
Isn't she a little late? Mouse already debuted her nun shit a few days back.

>>102746512
https://x.com/Veibae/status/1948509619543822703
their COO has begun to push a narrative on 4chan (yes im serious lmfao) and other social media that i am leaving because i plan to join OTK and that both me and silvervale are troublemakers

>>102746466
you sound like you dont fucking watch her. you probably shut your brain off and drool at the pretty colors. if you actually used your ears and listened to what she says you would know this. go and listen to any time mouse has ever ranted about how much she hates the idea of graduations as well. I wanna say it was during Matas past lifes graduation were mouse really went into her views on Ironmouse being more of a character she performs, it was during rant about kayfabe i believe and was also when she really talked about the decision to move away from kayfabe so much. it could have also been mints past life grad or dokis, fuck im high. thats your homework, go watch all three im sure she basically said the same thing all three times anyways, maybe you'll learn soemthing

Henya oilers are something

>>102746550
Well they both said it's still happening but without the surprise

>>102746571
that was mtd

>>102746522
duel debut it's actually a great idea, you get bigger numbers from the bigger streamer and it gives the impression the smaller streamer is more successful than it normally is

>>102746571
she can't know that though

>>102746629
I think they were referring to duel, as in a fight/confrontation, dual is a duo, two of them.

>>102746621
I made a typo when googling about Apek and google ai invented a new member kek

>>102746571
I mean I vaguely remember the rrat being mentioned, but I don't think anyone really bought it. To the point it's never brought up these days
So they suck at astroturfing if that's actually true

>>102746704
the internet was already fucked but that recommended cements it kek

>>102746492
Geega's slutty nun outfit is going to be so hot

>>102746786
She's not gonna show any skin besides her face but a man can dream

>>102746704
ew

>>102746621
Mowtendoo is the CTO.

pia raided tob
she's /in/

>>102746848
i thought he was the coo then moved to cmo
but they were talking about mtd

>>102746879
No, they're talking about the COO Apek. Mowtendoo was busy doing coke and trying to make girls say nigger to shitpost on 4chan.

>>102746863
All raids lead to tob eventually

>>102746897
you now remember she was in marimari chat when the nigger clip went viral

>>102746897
i thought he was the cfo
anyway he was mentioned by name in streams and someone was sitting her posting today i will remind them with a twitter screenshot reply in the thread that has his pfp

Keep up

>>102746988
whoa I'm based in the western world too

https://youtu.be/jnQxWj-D3a8
>Gunrun always rubbed me the wrong way
>He was always slimy

>>102746988
This is wrong.
They aren't based at all.

>>102746988
>Fortunat
Unfortunat

>Gunrun is busy trying to convince his PR team that he'll pay them later with investment money
>MTD is coping by snorting random chemicals he ordered from China while anxiously sitting in and getting banned from vtuber chats
>Apek is desperately trying to convince 4chan that he wasn't actually the COO of VShojo and Vei was talking about MTD
Bleak... How did it come to this...

>>102747028
huh, apparently this JayViper guy has a global emote

>>102747225
I dunno it seems like mtd and apek were both shitting up 4chan

>>102747028
Its weird that everyone who talked about him said he was the most helpful nicest person but these guys say everyone knew he was a snake

>>102747288
grifters gonna grift

>>102747225
i didnt think vei said anyone but mtd and didnt read into the title on a tweet i thought the apek guy was busy with fraud cookin books

>>102746550
Mouse did earlier than she was supposed to, ruining the surprise

>>102747288
Yeah, easiest way to know someone is full of shit. "You always knew"? Bitch, that's not a thought process.

>>102747288
It's like with Sinder. She's so sweet and nice until she's not and sge always rubbed everyone the wrong way from the start. People just want to look smarter than they are. Everyone except people who were directly involved like extalents got duped by that faggot and his lies.

>>102747468
She did seem incredibly fake, but that comes with the territory of being a fucking vtuber. There was exactly one time my alarm bells went off and it was her making an underhanded jab at Silver in 2023 or so. That's not a terrible track record.

geega's giga geegs

>>102747581
>She did seem incredibly fake
she was like this as soon as she debuted but I can't really blame her, everyone is trying to play a character at first before they settle into something closer to their real self but she kinda kept it up forever

statement from alex

>>102747746
I can't read any of that.

>>102747746
translation

>>102747746
????

>>102747746
Uhh ok

>>102746704
put her in the OP you cowards
aek my beloved

>>102747691
What I mean is that she tried to kiss people's ass when she collabed with them. That's not inherently strange. I don't think that's necessarily wrong either. It just leaves a certain aftertaste if you brownnose your peers and larger creators like that and turn out to be a bitch.

>>102747774
>the japanese branch president and I were exploring the the possibility of operational seperation but it was too late
AIEEE

>>102747581
To be fair, hating Silver in 2023 was based and she was probably trying to get Gun's attention.

>>102747774
damn I wonder if he knows about the kaho allegations though

>>102747917
I wouldn't trust a hag JAV actress over a young successful kid.

>>102747883
No, absolutely not in the way she mocked her. It was vile.

>>102747746
>>102747774
imo seems like a good statement, I hope most of it is true.

>>102747858
loutlot redemption arc

>>102747774
I believe him, pls save the novas

>>102747774
It's too bad they weren't able to save VShojo JP in the end despite their best efforts.

>>102747858
seems to corroborate with that loutlot interview. Please save the NOVA girls

Well at least we are though the worst of it.

>>102748073
Stop that

>>102748073

>jp papanya sometimes works to midnight and has to get up at 5
working time fraud is based and japanese people should adopt it

>>102747917
he does, that's why he is making statement, and it's not him: Kaho said it was some gaijin for some reason asking her about nihon taxation during her time in US - an excover guy that was staying in Japan to work already knows all that. Also, Mouse does know who Kaho meantt, so it's just a matter of time.

>>102748122
ngl with the money Henya is making, she can probably tell her dad to retire.

>>102748073
Geega will start nuvshojo and we can get back to /in/ posting.

>>102748136
He made the statment because of the pitch leak not because of Kaho

>>102748160
Maybe now that she'll actually get her merch and sponsor money.

>>102748073
You just caused Apek to Chris Benoit himself and Mel by saying this.

>>102748166
She would be dumb to start a group after a corpo just betrayed everyone

>>102748208
Sounds like a job for geega

>>102748208
no but this time it'll be good

>>102748208
I believe.

Vshojo would have been saved if gunrun de-jewfied the company.

>>102747883
no it fucking wasn't

>>102748238
That was basically the same idea vshojo was built on.
Just let people be fucking indie

>>102748255
true!

>>102748208
Every company she's been a part of failed because they didn't listen to her. She wouldn't have that problem with her own corpo.

>>102745863
I love her when she's cunty

this goes up your bum

>>102748319
Followed by going in my mouth to clean it

>>102748208
she can capitalize on goodwill, influx of corpoless big talent becoming indie out of blue that she has ties to, and attention atound failure of V. If she is as savvy as she makes it out of course. That's not a bad retirement plan to be des

Is this Henya's longest stream outside of the time she tried to do a 24/7 thing with the new Final Fantasy game?

>>102747746

>>102747883
You're insane.

>>102748278
>Just let people be fucking indie
I get the why of wanting to start up a company though.
How many people were were going "who" before these lost generations spoke up? With the exception of people like Sinder, Vtubers as a community seem to genuinely want to see each other succeed. A company helps the little ones boost their signal much smoother than hoping some big time goes and invites them to collab whatever the newest friendslop game is.

>>102748354
vshojo wasn't profitable and they only took money from merch and sponsors.
She would need to take even less to not be seen as bad as vshojo.

>>102748349
Can zoomers stop with the scat for 5 seconds

Geega will save us

>>102748406
But Geega is based and 4view pilled. Pretty much the opposite of Zen.

>>102748406
at this point, no, fuck corpos.
Geega is a know it all who talks bigger than she is.
IT WILL FAIL

Wouldn't Geega have to essentially dox herself if she wanted to do this?

>>102748374
No, the donkey kong stream from earlier this year was over 14 hours long. The kson collab would need to go over 2 hours to pass that.

>>102748432
>>102748443
I'm not talking about Geega at all, just the mindset of wanting to make a Vtuber company even with the shit going on showing all these black companies.

if geega makes a company it won't be a vtuber company, it'll be a streamer company

>>102748415
She needs to do a very small operation, like 3am. Just some manager who's an employee to the talent and outsource all the other work as needed

>>102748487
Any company that groups together streamers vtuber or not are nothing but leaches on the streamers success.

>>102748389
I actually have no idea what Sinder said back then, it couldn't have been that fucking bad.

>>102746280
Yeah that is true I kinda hope she stops with the acting bit, also I'll say this too I hope she stops having bubi sing,Connor can maybe sing but when he's doing that voice and then tries to sing it just sucks
,he always ruins the songs for me

geega is going to start a new gtarp organization, featuring henya the genius from independant as their company mascot

>>102748531
yeah that's why vei went from 700ccv to 3k ccv in a month after joining vshojo

>>102748535
Yeah I don't really know anything about it, but it couldn't be that bad or people here would've endlessly baited with it

Kson live

kek

>>102748406
If you're going to start a company, make a merch company that isn't shit. Don't worry about the rest of that vtuber shit.

Save this post.
GeegRun downfall in 4-5 years.

>>102747774
>My role was to address the root of the issue, and i was the one who led the effort to remove omega
Imagine busting your ass to remove a pest and then being mistaken for him do to your shitty new boss

>>102748591
lmao

Rrat. Geega joined MSM and VShojo to learn about the challenges, pitfalls, and internal procedures for running a vtuber company (it's why she took on so much behind the scenes work for VShojo and frequently interacted with and helped the staff even though she didn't have to). Her goal was always to gain the knowledge to start a corpo or group of her own.

>>102748629
matches with her activities in gtarp, i believe it

>>102748629
Her gained knowledge should amount to never touching another corpo with a ten foot pole

>>102748629
Where does the gtarp fit in this grand plan?

>>102742343
she was signed after they debuted and for two years, they rugpulled her and told her to try through auditions she never heard back from. shes under an NDA as well.

>>102748629
Seth is her husband and she's been pulling the strings to get the talent to resign in an effort to poach them and rebuild MSM in a few months under a new name.

>>102748679
That's a hobby

>>102748679
it's networking

>>102748487
That's my greatest fear with her. I'd love Geegshojo but it should be focused on vtubers like before.

>>102748576
She was mocking her crying. Nobody here was talking about it, because you don't talk about Sinder in the first place. I'm actually a pretty cruel person, I think Silver spilled her own milk and should be thankful for any sympathy she's getting. Even I thought that went too far. That requires some real vitriol.

>>102748684 (me)
This has been my rrat ever since sigrid and bird started camping the zenathon

>>102747774
What did Omega do?

>>102748237
just hire the right people for the job
a gen made of bao, amalee and grimmi could make huge profits for the company

>>102748716
I don't believe that. That clip would've been posted here or /lig/ undoubtedly. You're full of shit
You can post some proof. But you won't because it doesn't exist

>>102748481
You don't need a company with paid staff to form a group to get some recognition. Problem is this were all 4viewes that wanted merch and sponsor money without lifting a finger for it because it's too stressful.

Kson on Henya

>>102748732
>fact
He started a new direction approach '' the lore chimp era'' that even vshojo followed with merryweather, suddenly everyone in vshojo is a godess with sss powers
>rrats
hated simply because he was trans

>>102748756
Those sound like perfect candidates

>>102748716
>I'm actually a pretty cruel person
Oh shit, you're actually here Seth!

>>102748415
we don't know if vshojo wasn't profitable before mismanagement and reckless spending of cash they didn't have, only that JP branch was doing okay and was confident in cutting ties with EN before implosion.
also let's be real, they were taking 100% cut of merch and sponsors for some time. It's not hard to beat that

>>102748807
Feel free to not believe a word. Are you going to think Sinder was a good person with no animosity towards Silver now that this evidence is absent?

Which of the former members would join Geegshojo if it was actually a thing?

>>102748896
>we don't know if vshojo wasn't profitable before mismanagement
Anon they were bad at paying people when the first 3 left. keep up.

Geega whatever you do do not let Zen be in charge of talent recruitment.

>>102748896
They said they would be profitable even if they paid the talents what they were owed.

>>102748945
Not Mouse, I doubt she will trust a corpo again.

>>102748825
So this why nyan hate this model

>>102748945
jabroni_mike

>>102748945
All of them. We will be so back.

peke live

>>102748961
What, you don't want 4 entire generations of 5-30 view nobodies flooding the ranks?

>>102748985
Its sad because Connor will end up hurting her too.

>>102749027
dya made better models desu, maybe they didn't pay her full

>>102749084
Fuck off Mow

>>102748825
>the lore chimp era
In which Mel bodied everybody. Interesting.

>>102748961
That's true, she probably can't pick up Zen if she wants to get vtubers that aren't 1views.

>>102748825
>>102749027
>>102749216
What's crazy about people who go schizo about Omega is that in his entire time at Hololive he publicly said basically nothing besides a tweet introducing his design and a tweet clarifying he's some sort of mystical genderless entity. His entire existence was pretty much just retweeting stuff from the main account for a couple years. And yet those things were enough for people to go absolutely insane and blame him every time something went wrong, wish for his death, and invent convoluted scenarios relating to him being fired for doing evil things behind the scenes. Even though we know nothing about who he is, what he actually did, if he's even gone or if he's still doing things behind the scenes and just stopped using the account. All we know is that the account stopped tweeting anything after a while.

>>102749272
People assumed it was a power tripping manager and they were right.

>>102749222
Otherwise she gonna a scream about being thrown to the wolves! Like seriously her reacting to the stupid seething vtweeters who were never gonna be happy unless they were picked was so fucking stupid.

>>102748954
i'm sorry, but in retrospect their total of ~200k seems like just petty shit. They didn't want to pay to bait them into legal proceedings just so they would nail their greedy bitches narrative, or something like that

Peke doing the same thing Nagi did with the english translation on screen

Peke is live
Mouse is in Henya's chat

new thread
>>102749539
>>102749539
>>102749539

>He
Machine translated.

>>102749272
Kiara despised him and revealed a lot ot shit about him earlier this year. He sounded just incompetent and power tripping, not creepy or anything, but he had some kind of role in Project Hope and Kiara is extremely glad he's gone.

>>102749550
man I know its Jp culture but she shouldn't feel the need to apologize for things shes literally a victim of

>>102748591
I don't get it?,wah?

>>102749828
Mowtendoo

>>102746114
>The proportions for almost everything Kap drew were off

>>102746492
Futa Nun Fencing Duel

>>102749931
That's accurate, however.

>>102749084
tweet about it so everyone will BTFO you so hard

>>102748824
oh god, she finally found her apartment. NICE

>>102749103
maybe she can redesign it