Thread 102764172

This is purely a hypothetical situation.
So let's just say you are a founder of prominent vtuber group, and presumably a share owner due to you being instrumental in the creation of that group.
Let's say your boyfriend ends up being the COO of the group (the same COO that all the other talents cite as having a pivotal role in making it shit).
Let's say the company is not profitable (yet), but there are rumors of possible investment in the future, investment that would make your shares much more valuable, and which you would materially benefit from.

Let's say that your COO in an attempt to squeeze out some more time on this sinking ship before the ultimate payday, begins throwing out shittier and shittier contracts, pressuring talents to sign hot garbage, in order to hopefully secure some "whale" talents who sign to keep this siphon going. You look past it, and say nothing (it's in your interest, otherwise the whole company would go tits up).

Let's say your COO figures that to keep the company salient, to not pay you, but you look past it, because in the event that the investment comes in, you will make bank, and the whole situation will turn around.

Let's say more time passes, and the fundraising still hasn't materialized. Management similarly begins not paying other contract workers (talents). You also stay quiet, and say nothing out of fear it would blow back towards you, considering your COO connection. Maybe, just *maybe* the situation can improve, and everyone can be paid back, and "it just works itself out", somehow.

Now the lid is off and everyone is pointing fingers in every which direction.

How complicit would you be in this situation? How much would you be freaking out right now?

inb4 nice fan fiction

why do people pretend mel wasn't involved deeply in vshojo

>>102764172 (OP)
Actually, now that I think about it, what if you were basically the only talent who never had missing payments at all, or at least, until the very end?

>>102764351
>My anime girl can't do any wrong. Not MY anime girl. Her BF stole but she didn't know. For sure

>>102764172 (OP)
The truth that no one is ready for.

Gunrun, Apek, and Melody were the main culprits of the downfall. They worked to raise up the image of vshojo to garner attention from venture firms for seed money. They poached popular names like Kson and miguel gato (I'm laughing too) for brand power and to craft the image of a profitable talent first company. But most importantly they discovered a secret. They had blackmail on Ironmouse after discovering her medical condition wasn't real and held it over her to glaze the company, recruit Puerto Rican shills to counter oppositions, and be the face of vshojo. She was the lovable cute sick girl no one could accuse of anything, and the mighty cudgel that threatened to destroy the career of anyone bold enough to speak against vshojo. Don't you dare say a thing about vshojo missing payments, spoofing auditions, trying to poach people, etc. This is why SO many people, in and out of vshojo, are speaking out now. You can't blame these fools, had they tried to expose anything they would've been murdered on the street by a podcaster with trash taste in anime. Their perfect image was used to garner funding as this mythical unicorn company that somehow could make money come out of thin air. The glitz, the glamour, the awards; it was all smoke and mirrors.

The initial plan was to run a "talent first" vtuber company but they quickly realized this wasn't working. Nothing panned out and they were bleeding money. Eventually the investment firm, vshojo's creditors started requested returns on the $11 million they seeded to vshojo. If this bombed then Gunrun with his shitty backpack could never show his face in silicon valley again. Now the real dilemma- unlike Cover corp, they can't go public because this company makes no profit; it's a real shitshow. This is where the blackmail comes in. The three decide to embezzle the remaining funds over the next few years to pad their savings after they eventually crash the company. Multiple nothing burger projects are started up to fill up the books with pointless expenses and run it into the ground for good. Ironmouse is black mailed to stay on contract and eventually instructed to be the closer. Her departure is meant to completely tank confidence in the company with the reveal that the company misused her charity funds. Prior to this event, the talents are given notice that they can freely depart the company if they wish. This whole mass exodus is planned to justify a bankruptcy procedure so they can legally walk away from their creditors to whom they owe millions. The charity situation was set and the money was divvied out over the past year. Note, even last year people knew from financial records that this money never went to any charity, it was even discussed /here/; nothing happened.

Then the final hour comes, poor ol' mousey posts her farewell video, opens with her heckin sad life, explains that she uses vshojo as a bank for some odd reason, goes into the charity money, the gorillion dollars they owe her, and then bails out. Watch closely, she has no lawsuit and nothing will be done by her "lawyers", it's all a smokescreen. The other talents see the place set on fire and jump ship. She then promptly makes a tiltify campaign which focuses attention away from her, smoothing over any notion that that she might be full of it, and everyone moves on. Apek and Melody sell their condo and move to Japan (do your reps), Gunrun retires to his vacation home, Mowtendoo becomes a laughing stock, the LLC company goes bankrupt, the investment firm has nothing to chase, Ironmouse is free of her chains, Kson wins a tinfoil hat, and tons of people finally come out of the woodwork with stories of how this company was ALWAYS a vshitshow.

Mel is also not vocal in the situation.

>>102764172 (OP)
>what is negligence

>>102764533
The ironmouse blackmail thing just sounds like a larp, I'm not sure we have any reason to believe she doesn't actually have some gaping hole in her chest, but the rest sounds more grounded in reality.

>>102764527 (me)
It will be the same as with Sinder, where she will try to throw her bf under the bus to take all the blame

Reminder that jannies scrubbed the posts showing the COO sold his home around the time Mel moved.

>>102764533
Nigga you're not in high school anymore, nobody gets paid to pretend to care about your essays. Tl;dr your shit.

>>102764847
The whore took the money, and ran.

>>102764172 (OP)
>salient

not sure if ESL or you genuinely believe 'salient' is a fancier way to say 'solvent'

>>102764924
Oops. autocorrect

>>102764172 (OP)
Very complicit. Do not get involved with a company that hopes to be profitable by managing streamers on someone else's platform. It never works, it's a doomed business model, there is nothing to invest in. It's for ego tripping morons that want to waste money at playing business.

>>102764351
Didn't nyanners break contact with her after she left? I wasn't following the situation then.

>>102765055
There has been a lot of division between those who left and those who stayed.
If there's a chance they received dirty money they probably won't speak out due to liabilities of being dragged into something bigger.

>>102765640
Melody didn't have to be getting paid dirty money, she could have just been prioritized for contract payment, consider her boyfriend had a hand in the finances.

>>102765640
It would explain why some of the remaining talents only waited until now to speak up, or why people like Melody basically said little before going off the grid, or why people like Matara have said absolutely nothing when they would be candid about corporate behind-the-scenes trivia in the past.

>>102765670
Also why would she throw shade in the direction of her rich boyfriend

>>102765670
Sorry I meant more like no one like vei or nyanners will go for the throat because attempting to reveal corporate fraud or embezzling would drag them into something very huge. They will keep it lowkey like saying they weren't paid, their heart is broken, and mootendoo is a creep.

The only way this gets exposed is if the government decides to review their books and see what happened.

>>102765825
If he is going to prison it's in her interest to disconnect entirely.

Mel was in on it

>>102765670
>consider her boyfriend had a hand in the finances
This doesn't let her off the hook though. If people are trying to crucify Ironmouse for saying she wasn't handling her own finances then that same treatment gets applied to Melody as well.

Not my le heckin wholesome whore camgirl my sweet little poptart baggle nooooooo

Vtuber who is regarded as being nice and friendly turns out to be a backstabber with her boyfriend as the accomplice?
Now I have two nickels.

>>102764351
It's why possibly her bf made a bunch of nonsensical threads in the past few days making absurd claims to spread rumors about Ironmouse and deflect this stuff coming to light. Even though anyone with half a brain knows Mouse was not some shadow CEO and paid for her outfits. It's feed for schizos.

So in her first indie stream why did Mouse not mention Melody her old best friend at all when saying to support former talents? She talked about how much she loved Henya and Michi and to continue supporting them. She brought up the girls who didn't get to debut and even told Pia they should collab. Even told people to support NOVA a group she never shilled before probably because on some level she knew she paid for their fucking debuts. But no mention of Mel, the woman that helped kickstart her career and scouted her for this agency with the promise of taking care of her. That's weird right?

>Live with boyfriend for 6+ years
>Doesn't know anything about the company they both work for
Obviously the only conclusion to be made

>>102764172 (OP)
She's a jew, she'll be fine. Look at what happened to the XRP boy.

>>102767007
>It's why possibly her bf made a bunch of nonsensical threads in the past few days making absurd claims to spread rumors about Ironmouse and deflect this stuff coming to light.
THIS THIS THIS

>>102767007
Nah just a coincidence man nothing to see here :). She just went radio silent cus shes so upset for all her friends that she invited to this shit show, that she didn't bother replying to any of them

the COO does NOT get to fucking walk away after all this bullshit
Melody, I could care less, but this fucker has to pay

>>102767555
She said nothing

>>102767439
And conveniently relocated out of the US around the same time MTD left the sinking ship

>>102767555
He's not anywhere online so his connection with Melody will be a big part of getting to him

that she disclose she was fucking the COO is enough for me to believe something sinister is going on

that she didn't disclose she was fucking the COO is enough for me to believe something sinister is going on

>>102767007
I have not seen ANYONE mention Melody AT ALL other than her most hardcore simps like el_xox and her own community, this is kinda...

>>102767998
Either she has nukes to drop or they're dealing with it behind the scene with lawyers

>>102767998
No one of any standing on twitter or anywhere else has pulled the trigger on the melody COO connection because it falls under a vtuber taboo of private life elements and they're afraid to say anything, because it could open them up to have other people saying private shit about them.

>>102768044
Airis Athena and Digitrevx are talking so maybe they'll get something concrete out

>>102764172 (OP)
But /vt/ told me that Melody is a trad whore who doesn't make being a whore her entire personality? One of the good ones?

>>102768044
>it falls under a vtuber taboo of private life elements
Why do the talent freedom vtubers care about this anyways? I thought this side of the industry was all about breaking taboos like that which were created by japanese corpos.

>>102768185
People will only believe it if a vtuber of higher stature says it that's generally how it works in the normie vtuber community

>>102768222
You're mixing up private life and past life, dumbass

>>102764172 (OP)
https://x.com/Athena_Airis/status/1948635251099795750
we know

>>102764533
BASED

>>102768289
Tomatoe Tomato

>>102768289
Melody fucking apek on camera is just her past life though

>>102764172 (OP)
>Let's say your boyfriend

>>102764533
If they have blackmail on Mouse, why don't they release it?

>>102769053
You time those things right. Let her put on an act in public a bit more.

>>102769053
Because that was the made up part, because some people are trying to use this to get at the ironlung tangentially.

>>102764172 (OP)
Anon I will level with you. If I were that person I would take a deep breath go live on stream and shove a big dildo into my pussy and moan loudly. And then I would continue doing that like nothing has happened.

Sometimes, the truth is incredibly obvious and simple.

>>102769053
Even if it was true, what would releasing it even accomplish? What would be the purpose? At this point all they would need out of her is to keep her mouth shut, releasing the blackmail just to troll her would not help with that.

>>102772496
>Narrator: He did, in fact, have a clue.

>>102772496
Man.

>>102773435
>No replies
I guess the shills didn't get hired yet

>>102773631
Being an accomplice to a crime leaves you liable, yes.

>>102769053
because dropping "uhh she's not actually sick" after vshojo got raped into the ground for not forking over the donation money is going to look like petty, retarded bullshit unless they're also willing to leak protected but damaging documents like results of physical exams collected for insurance purposes (which would result in very actionable and lucrative lawsuits against the individuals involved) or extremely unlikely emails/posts/comments that could unquestionably be tied back to ironmouse.

in short, they missed the boat and their killshot is now pointed at their foot. better to not pull the trigger.

>>102764172 (OP)
>nice fan fiction
It's bad fan fiction

>>102764172 (OP)
>Let's say the company is not profitable (yet)
It was never going to be profitable. Letting talents have 100% of donos/subs is a great move for talents but a terrible decision what that's also the biggest chunk of overall incoming revenue
Honestly, the more I hear about it the more it becomes clear that it was designed to fail. Coasting off sponsorship money was never going to be enough to cover all of what they needed with as much as they tried to do.

>>102774464
It had a chance of working if they tried to grow more organically and actually hired competent people. Instead they spent money to look successful and nepo hired people

>>102773435
It has been a long two more weeks, but the two more weeks has finally come.
As for Melody, the more time passes without a statement, the more suspicions will grow that she's keeping quiet to avoid self-incrimination... I hope she says something.

>>102764172 (OP)
I flee to Brazil.

>>102764533
>how this company was ALWAYS a vshitshow.
I can tell you hard this one line written years ago and were waiting for a good chance to use it. Respect.

>>102775007
Most people seem satisfied with her non-statement for now.

>>102776237
More like most people have no idea.

>>102764392
Why do you think multiple talents have said they haven't gotten paid since September 2024, the month the charity subathon?
Clawbacks are a bitch.

>>102776311
Maybe. There's some attempts to get the discussion going but everyone always goes "digi said that so it wrong" or "there's no proof" or "she's mentally exhausted let her have time off"

>>102764172 (OP)
why does this not sound like fiction

>>102777870
>digi said that so it wrong
It's a shame that the only source is the same artist that tried to extort her for money years ago and thus can be easily dismissed by twittards

>>102767007
Did she mention Zen.

>>102778486
He's not the only source but he's the most prominent one. All of the actually relevant info is just public records but it all gets ignored because digi drew attention to the connection first.

All the money went to neonbeat

>>102764533
>they had to blackmail the biggest benefactor of their pyramid scheme
lol annon

>>102778486
>the same artist that tried to extort her for money years ago
I have to question if it was really extortion or if his sperg ass just made it easy for Mel and Dan to label him as one with the right words.

>>102764533
How much did they pay you? Be honest.