Thread 102766812

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/Anime_Chow/status/1948831825448628390

/xvsj+/ includes:
Ama - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102761597

You either believe Vei is lying and Mel is innocent, or Vei is telling the truth and Mel is complicit. There is no third choice.

I love lewd waifu Mouse

Dogshit Geega lobby incoming

I'm compiling a list of people who are/were owed money from VShojo
Here's what I can recall. Let me know if I'm missing something, if you have more detail I'm missing, or if I'm wrong
>$500k to the IDF
>The equivalent of a house to Mouse
>The equivalent of a Ferrari to Kson (Likely over $200k)
>The equivalent of a Lamborghini to Henya
>An undisclosed amount to Michi
>An undisclosed amount to Zen
>An undisclosed amount to Kuro
>An undisclosed amount to Mint
>All the other new hires (Beri, Tori, Feebee, Pia, and others who have yet to be revealed) also had debut budgets they received no compensation for
>Nova is owed merch money from their debut, valentine's, and birthdays
>Geega is owed "something"
>Nyan was owed the equivalent of a Mercedes S-Class (Likely over $100k; according to her video she eventually managed to recover it thanks to a lawyer after she left)
>Silver was owed money (Likely has been partially paid overtime but she is still owed money for tons of sponsors like Smite and Ironside)
>Vei was owed money for sponsors (Only some of it got paid overtime, not all)
>Potentially money to Mata as well
>Bricky is owed $15,000
>Panora Virtual Reality Japan is owed money as well
>Various contractors and such
>Any lenders they borrowed money from
>A bunch of artists are either owed money or received it very late (if any notable artists in particular with a large sum let me know then I'll list them specifically)
>Half of this thread for shitposting about Vei without pay (for legal reasons this is a joke)

A Japanese cyptobro claims that there were talks to acquire VShojo for $2,000,000 that they ultimately backed out on since the financials of the business looked very unprofitable. This could possibly be a baseline for the total amount of money VShojo owes minus the lost charity money. But given the increasingly large list of debts it could very well be even higher than this.
>https://x.com/CL207/status/1947911415651512533

check dms

my chigga sykkuno

>>102766862
I believe Vei but I am waiting untill one of the girls speaks out against Mel

>>102766862
The third choice is waiting for the talents to take sides with or against mel. Literally everything is coming out in the open and if mel is guilty then they will make it known. So whatever shit you're trying to stir is completely pointless

>This Peak lobby
Bedge

>>102766942
oh shit, no way.

What if ludwig was spilling secrets and gunrun was part of hamas or whatever

>>102766974
Then he goes back to being based

>>102766942
YOU KEK LOSER BITCH MOTHERFUCKER

Do you think we'll ever get degen Mouse back now that she's free?

>>102767048
Nyan and Aethel will team up with Connor to rescue degen Mouse. Believe anon.

>>102767048
Mel was keeping Mouse off of Chaturbate because she was terrified of competition. Sad to see.

>>102767048
Time will tell.
But I hope so

>>102767042
But Mel is a woman too. How do you believe between two liars?

>0 vtubers
I'm out.

dead org thread

>>102767080
Degen Mouse is not Mouse directly doing nsfw anon.

>>102766971
>Zen joining
Wokege

>>102767106
ENTER

>>102767042
so far it turns out Vei was always telling the truth and it was faggot Vshojo staff that were trying to discredit her

>>102767098
*who

>>102767130
Yeah Mouse would never do anything nsfw haha *hides the patreon*

>>102767118
the org is dead but we're somehow more alive than ever

Fuck
Does anyone have the image of Sykkuno's model laughing

>>102767086
I doubt she'll ever fap on stream but it would be nice if she did some lewd audios or voiced in porn animations.

>>102767156
My queen Vei was a consistent streamer that was never playing World of Warcraft.

The fuck is Geega going to do down in BR lmao, VTubers didn't really catch on here and even less people watches foreign chuubas (unless the M&G is a excuse to get laid in that case my bad)

>>102767171
Doing real nsfw is different to that, and I want degen Mouse.

>>102767232
One of the mods is brazilian, and apparently there's a small but tight brazilian part of GEEGA's fandom.

>>102767196
the sykKINO face

>>102767211
nah I just want her to be a bit more open and degenerate like she used to be.
I would never expect anything like that.
Maybe nsfw dakis or other merch at the most extreme.

>>102767156
And everything after she left was all on her not vshojo

Who is the literal child in the lobby?

>>102767358
Me

>>102766714
https://files.catbox.moe/qsc3l1.webm

>>102766812 (OP)
>Related /in/dies:
>Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
>Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
>Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
>Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
>Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
>Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo
None of these chuubas belong in the OP. They never had a debut under VShojo so they can't qualify as xvsj.
Geega basically confirmed this by talking about how they aren't real members.

>>102767574
Man, shut the fuck up Geega.

>>102767574
Oh well if GEEGA says it then...

This is now canon.

>>102767625
Holy fuck it is

Geegas numbers if she had done lewd GFE ASMR for this debut instead

>>102767574
Putting in Momo is stone cold retarded. Might as well put in everyone they talked about signing but never did, Sayu, Quinn, Hex, etc.

There are 2 types of people in this general. Those who type GEEGA and those who type Geega.

>>102767571
Those two were made for each other.

>>102767668
momo was allegedly also /in/

>>102767668
read

>>102767810
Does VShojo also owe money to Momo?

>>102767663
Twitch needs to tap into other markets man
If they ever get big in Japan/SEA it would be crazy

>>102767850
yes, also made her entire family sign an nda and then mtd sent her a dick pic

>>102767860
This would require Twitch to actually make a decent app (so basically it's never happening)

>>102767860
>Twitch needs to tap into other markets man
They tried.
It wasn't financially viable.

I find it extremely obvious that Bunny_GIF was /in/ but she doesn't raise a fuss about it because she's a good girl that doesn't farm drama

>>102767663
So funny you have an entire thread on this board dickriding big stream numbers when even at their best they are just a small fish in a huge ocean.

>>102767903
idk but 7 million live viewers is crazy and most are probably on the app

>>102767932
I mean if Momo was then she very well could have been too lol. 2020 pre-VShojo was basically the starting line up + Momo and Bunny

>>102767932
Yea last time she weighed in on drama it blew up in her face, but she did ended up saving Saru so all's well that ends well.

Ama live

>>102767574
And Mouse said the opposite telling everyone to support them.

>>102767932
amazing collab

>>102767964
The only way a chuuba could possibly get numbers that actually compete with some of the most popular creators like Kai Cenat is if they're willing and somehow able to collab with them. For obvious reasons that won't happen.
The only one in theory that could somehow do it is Vei and she's too lazy to even stream consistently lol

>>102768000
It's really funny how Saruei's vtubing career is only still alive thanks to Bunny taking the heat off of her

>>102768052
anon Kais max number ever is only a fraction of that

>>102768040
https://files.catbox.moe/47b615.webm

Wait, Geega said she was gonna take a mini vacation end of August. She said she was gonna meet with a friend of hers who had a rough year. San Japan is from August 29 to 31 and it's in San Antonio Texas. Is she meeting Zen?

>>102768040
5 years of VShojo, a billion and one great memories, and this remains like top 5 collabs in that entire time and it was year 1 lol

>>102768052
Well technically we already had one vtuber do such a thing

>>102768118
It's just as likely that she's going off to meet a friend that's not in the industry.

>>102768097
Bunny unironically saved Saru's life since she was legit suicidal.

I will hold out hope that mel is just insanely disappointed and stressed and is taking time away to process- that's literally the only explanation

'cause I don't know what I'm gonna do if it's not

>>102768133
Probably meant more consistently streaming with these guys but yeah technically this is the closest one has gotten to it

Whoever gets the life sized Geega gauntlets should film themselves jerking off with it.

>>102768278
>I'm so fucked up

>>102768278
>life size
>remember that Geega's height is to where she can be legally called a dwarf
Unless she's a hamplanet of a midget those life size gauntlets aren't fitting anyone.

>>102768220
I hope Mel goes to prison

>>102768259
That and she's probably having a serious conversation with her bf about the future of their relationship. Assuming they were still together.

>>102768220
>'cause I don't know what I'm gonna do if it's not
one last coom

what if bunny was also signed lol

>>102768329
Male prison where she works as a stress relief officer.

>>102768342
gonna put her fansly vods that I recorded onto VHS' next to my cosby show tapes on the shelf

>>102768133
Eww.

>>102768220
I'm sitting here looking at my plush display and that would make a rather large hole in my collection.

>>102768384
why u hatin on heavenly?

>>102766611
>>102766651
>>102766700
>>102766863

do you think she ordered the silver swimsuit?

>>102768220
I hope that Mel is evil because evil women are hotter for jerking off to

>>102768440
I thought she only cosplays Mouse

>>102768491
She also cosplayed Geega and Michi

When is Zen gonna play

>>102768345
Layna saved her from a scam

>>102767932
>>102768345

wouldnt surprise me if she was, still wouldnt like fat tits after all the rest of the bullshit she pulled.

>>102767747
The Squeakquel
https://files.catbox.moe/ao1f8b.webm

>>102768491
https://x.com/Mizzimie/status/1718026430632903021

Thread is dead, now's the time to post pink cat's fat tits.

>>102768615
Lol who is the guy that's torturing poor Layna by sending these clips to her?

>dead thread
it's actually over. no more drama.

>>102768758
>Thread is dead
Well that must mean the drama is finally over and things can't get any worse now

>>102768829
sisters, we're starving...

>>102768829
Some of these niggas are sleeping for the first time in days.
chill

>>102768829
>>102768847
It's only dead until the NDAs expire, then the floodgates are going to burst like never before.

>>102767574
Our baker is a retarded jobless autist who’ll shit his pants if someone touches the op that’s why he camps here and tries to baked it every time

>>102767574
>Geega basically confirmed this by talking about how they aren't real members.
she literally apologized for saying this the next day

>>102768829
Everyone went away to watch a fish

>>102768881
ill start sniping dw

>>102768829
I guess it really can't get worse

>>102768881
Leave the bakers alone you faggot

>>102768926
I've never watched a Gura stream

>>102768875
that'll take years. it'll be grandma silvervale talkin about how mtd touched her bum

Can someone explain to me how an org or company can make their talent sign an NDA?
From the numerous stories ive heard, its always "they made me sign an NDA".

Can talent just say no?

>>102768829
I'm glad. Things will be chill now and we've reclaimed the old members and got a few new ones. I'm gucci bro checking out Ama doing a soullink now.

>>102768965
Stop defending retards

>>102768829
>dead thread
More like dead board desu

I don't like collabs

>>102768829
YOU FUCKING JINXED IT

>>102766812 (OP)
>Ironmouse?
>More like, Ironlung!

>>102769001
Yes. They can also fuck off after that.

>>102769080
I like collabs but solo is always king.

>>102769104
Get new material, dude.

AMA NO

>>102768739
After the BBL I feel like Mizzie lost the touch

>>102768000
>>102768097
What the qrd on Saru vtubing career, just now hearing about this, last drama i remember about Saru is the art contest when she said the too long didn't read thingy?

I went away for a minute, is Soullink with cyyu still happening?

>>102769001
You're hitting on something extremely correct. It's a really easy way to lie. If you're under NDA, you don't have to back up a thing you say.

>>102769226
It's in the stream title she's just yapping first

Ama kek
>>102769001
Normally, conversations under NDA are done before they are said. They can also come after, but in these cases they are usually under a specific condition, let's say "Wanna keep working with us? This conversation stays under NDA" and obviously not a lot want to discuss it.

>>102769001
>Can someone explain to me how an org or company can make their talent sign an NDA?
It's all in the A. As in it's an agreement that the company will employ you and pay you such and such, and in exchange you shut the fuck up.
>Can talent just say no?
Sure. But like I said, the A stands for agreement. If you say no that means you disagree. And if you disagree then they're not obliged to hold up their end of said agreement either.

>>102769201
>worst part of her life
Man...

>>102769276
Pretty high bar since she was in the same boat as Bao when her merch situation got fucked lol

>>102769001
Sure you can say no to signing one, but then they can tell you to go fuck yourself if you demand they uphold any deals you made with them.

>>102769101
nah bro, what the ABSOLUTE FUCK???

>>102769201
I get ptsd each time I see news stand

>>102769276
Did she say that about the vshojo stuff?

>>102769312
She's such a nice person too, the both of them are. Not that I'd wish this shit on anybody, but why do the best people get the worst shit thrown upon them?

>>102769460
She's obviously talking about how every hot guy she sees is voiced by CyYu.

>>102769001
>Can talent just say no?
Yeah, and promptly lose their jobs and all money owed to them. Fucking moron.

>>102769588
>and all money owed to them
Refusing an NDA does not exempt the employer from payments due.

Filian and Zentreya collab announced.

>>102769695
>>102769747
fuck off back to your shithole
>>>/vt/lig/

Why'd this place (finally) turn on Mel?

>>102769588
Typically a non-disclosure is part of a contract signing. This means that you're either not owed money yet (as no work has been tendered by either party) or, in the case of contract renewals, all payments for the duration of the prior contract have already been made.

>>102769805
too many (((coincidences)))

>>102769736
They aren't employees, they are contractors. It'd be a civil suit and a whole other can of worms requiring litigation.

>>102769805 (me)
Sorry I wanted to say turn on by mel

>>102769001
for outgoing talents whos contracts have simply expired i imagine that the NDA attached to that initial contract lasts longer then the employment itself and/or the company coerces them into signing another NDA on exit by threatening to make extracting all the things the talent is owed from the company like pulling teeth

but i'unno

>>102769805
>>102769851
1 minute 1 second apart. Many such cases for rrat peddlers

>>102769695
>>102769747
>>102769798
>>102769853
Can you please stop?

Plapqueen of the Analverse

>>102769932
says the paranoid schizo

>>102769791
>>102769953
nooticing

>>102769874
>i imagine that the NDA attached to that initial contract lasts longer then the employment itself
This is usually the case for most forms of contractual agreements, not just NDAs. My boss had a 6 month non-compete clause on his contract for his old place of employment and I currently have an NDA that expires 3 years after contract termination, and we're just in game development.
I imagine other industries like defense or entertainment have far longer lasting ones.

>>102769945
why

>>102769871
Even then the money in the contract is tied to some service, so the obligation to get that money was fulfilled.
But yes, you can do the gamble as a company and make it a civil suit. Where both will throw a bunch of stuff at each other.

Going through the pitch deck now, and holy shit they described gunrun as vtuber jesus lmao

>>102770042
Because spamming/flooding is against the rules and you aren't contributing to the thread at all?

>>102770034
I've signed a 10 year NDA just as a prerequisite for an interview.

GirlsFC +'s being restored is a blight on this thread

>>102770203
Batfags are a blight on this board.

>>102770203
I hate all the vtubers in that dumb ass group and the reason why is entirely because their fans are all so fucking insufferable. Same reason I hate Marimari.

Why does Geega deny her month-long trip to Dubai in 2017? What is she hiding?

>Filian was blacklisted from Vshojo
>completely stopped talking to Mel
>still collabed with Michi several times

>>102770263
Her scat fetish

Remember, checkboxes next to a post and the report button at the bottom of the page lets you report multiple posts at a time. Not that I would endorse doing that but when there's spamming it's less annoying than doing it individually.

>>102770284
Why the fuck would Filian be blacklisted? She doesn't fucking do anything except spout cringe zoomer memes and do flips. Bitch won't even say "fuck".

>>102770063
It was probably written by him

>>102770341
Lmao people already complained to him?

>>102770326
she makes racists jokes all day every day

>>102770376
Cite one example or fuck off.

>>102770246
What's wrong with Shibes?

>>102770370
Noro is a girl. She has posted tummy before.

>>102770376
Damn, she so based for that.

>>102770326
She leaked that apek was melody's husband

i'm not the guy spamming bat
the only bad thing i ever did here was show people mint castella's huge puffy nipples when asked

>>102769953
>>102770284
I wonder what other new collabs we will get now that VShojo is dead.

>>102770401
If you have to ask, you're just making it clear that you are one.

>>102770370
Her.
And no, it's in reference to her saying "she's taller now"

>>102770326
Because she's annoying as fuck.

>>102770444
Based I love fat girls with puffy nipples

hello i like armored girls

>>102770456
I'm not, I just have never seen one. So I ask again, what's wrong with Shibes?

>>102770444
Then take your resident sperg back to your containment general with you.

>>102770526
bake /vsj/

>>102770082
Would be absolutely fucking bonkers if purple retard #1 actually turned out to be this Machiavellian femme fatale puppet master

>>102770484
Being annoying doesn't get people fucking blacklisted when they stand to make you money via collabs.

>>102770552
I would hate it.

>>102770484
Why arent arielle, froggy and papamutt blacklisted then?

>>102770573
It's probably the stolen model

>>102770484
>Being annoying is grounds for blacklisting
Then Moriko would have been blacklisted.

>>102770326
filian is a liability

When was the last time Mel has collabed or interacted with each girl?

>>102770445
I'm waiting for the Nyan + Henya collab.

>just came back online due to flooding in texas and internet,
wassup bwos, fairly active general, no?
also typo on the tittle x faggot

>>102770624
She literally has an agreement with the author now. Get new material.

>>102770674
You won't believe this, anon, but Ironmouse went indie

>>102770326
Filian is blacklisted because she told MTD no when he tried to fuck her at a party.

>>102770326
Because she beat them to the idea of hosting a vtuber awards?

>>102770674
you're joking, right?

Someone is trying very hard to cop a range ban.

>>102770674
oh boy you gotta sit and grab your popcorn for this one anon
but tldr...
VEI...
WAS..
RIGHT.

>>102770645
How?

>>102770667
This is what I want to happen the most after a Nyan + Mouse reunion

>>102769101
MICHI NUKE DROPPED

>>102770679
Years after the blacklist and when vshojo was literally imploding
God you're such a little cuck

>>102770376
Why would she be blacklisted for that?
MTD would've love that

>>102770752
she never joined mel's cb streams

>>102770732
You know, that might actually be an answer.

i just like when filian says 'Frick yeah!' and then does a cartwheel perfectly angled to show her plump little pussy outlined in her underwear to the camera 'accidentally' and she falls and hits her ass and starts whining

>>102770769
I can't believe Geega did this

>Zen plans a collab
>Someone conjures a rrat out of thin air for why it didn't happen already
>Everyone instantly believes it and tries to prove it
lol

>blacklist
>Geega and Michi (x2) had a collab with her
?????

>>102770769
It's a fucked up day when I breathe a sigh of relief at mystery shits.

>>102770820
She's a Phillipino btw

>>102770769
she just shared huh
ok

This shit here is exactly why the bat will never be popular, her autistic fanbase is holding her back. She needs to tardwrangle and curate these fucks better.

>>102770679
You don't stop being a thief just because you told the person you stole from you're sorry

>>102770862
and that's... bad?

>>102770782
They were probably scared that Fillian would joke on stream about MTD's sexpest behavior or VShojo's poor financial state.

Zen read her mind

>>102770803
She literally did

these anons better be getting paid for all these spams

>>102770831
Given that we already know that VShojo was pulling more strings than we thought, it's not farfetched at all to think there are certain collabs they blocked

>>102770877
And comments like this is exactly why this will never stop. Just ignore it retard

>>102770883
you do when you get their permission though. which is what happened

>>102770883
No but you stop being one when you give that person a shit load of money, which is exactly what happened. Fuck off.

>>102770927
it's MTD last line of defense

>>102770732
>beat them to the idea
No she had the idea months after Mouse mentioned doing one

>Ama gets a Garchomp in her starter options
lol

>>102770927
you can filter the filesize btw

>Mel cancelled an off-collab a day before it was supposed to happen
>ghosted Filian at the hole in the wall show
>Filian never mentioned Mel again if she didn't have to
>turns out she got blacklisted
>a day after Vshojo implodes she's announcing a Zen collab
>calls VShojo a mean girls club

>>102770752
>sieg heils on stream
>doesn't pay artists unless it's for content
>doesn't pay artists
>doesn't pay artists
>doesn't pay artists

>>102770782
mtd was high up but not the only decision maker

>>102770937
>>102770941
You absolutely do not. She is still a thief regardless of negotiating after the fact
And kek
>fuck off
He says as if he's not the unwelcome tourist

>>102770978
So it was Apek

>>102771000
Are you jewish or a faggot?

>>102770978
>Everyone got fucking covid when that collab was supposed to happen
>People are now acting like it was randomly canceled
lol

>>102769953
>>102770008
why are you nooticing
it's confirmed Vshojo was managing who can you collab with

>>102771007
>unwelcome
bake /vsj/ or fuck off

>>102771000
Would have been a match made in heaven with Vshojo

>>102771007
You can't just call everyone you disagree with a tourist you stupid faggot.

>>102771000
None of this matters if it doesn't redound to her detriment, which it hasn't.

Michi collabed twice with filian though.

>>102771077
The first one doesn't count, she literally doesn't remember it.

>>102771077
and zen has been in contact with filian for some time now
retards here literally do not watch streams

>>102771070
still a liability

>>102771068
No but I can call someone posting irrelevant trash here a tourist, now kys

>>102770769
somehow gunrun did this

>>102771131
>On-topic discussion is "irrelevant trash"
Now I'm starting to think (You) are the tourist.

>>102771131
bake /vsj/ right the fuck now

>mean girl club
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2523246779?t=0h14m22s
What did she mean by this?

besides the obvious spammer this general is kinda shit, why is everyone so aggressive

>>102771007
frick off idiot

wake me up when vei collabs with xvsj again

>>102771204
addicted to drama
when there is none they will try to fabricate some to get their latest fix

>>102771007
Filian is a plus and you can eat shit.

>>102771225
will be never. because she actually hates them.

>>102771131
either mentally stunted or a child wrote this

>>102771225
vshojo wronged her
but also she hates everyone
proof: im banned from her chat

>>102771250
filian isn't shit other than something to be thrown in the dumpster

>>102770961
Can you give some example syntax I'm way too fucking stupid to make sense of the guide

>>102771286
What'd she ban you for?

>>102770769
I love this woman's sense of humor.

>>102771374
i once said "the kid is hotter" (silver wolf from honkai star rail)
didnt know it was a sponsored stream lmao
its one and done. 4 yrs follower (this was 1-2 yrs ago).
havent been on her channel tho so its fine. nothings lost.

>>102771225
so never

>defends vshojo when the trio left
>gets stabbed in the back by Mel and blacklisted
i bet Gunrun only helped her move to sign her and she didn't want to accept his scammy contract

>>102770961
I don't get what the big deal is? It's not like he's spamming gore. Just a picture of a batrick plush.

>>102771225
She hardly ever collabs with anyone

guys.... stop it
come on

>>102770679
the word "now" is carrying more weight in this sentence than atlas

Man this thread was so nice 2-3 days ago

>>102771548
We need more drama.

>>102771463
I think that kind of message has to be banned instantly because it's TOS on Twitch
o7

>>102771000
>doesn't pay artists

shouldn't that get her a fast track to a management position?

my wife has a beautiful laugh

>>102770753
wasn't nyan considering raiding henya the other day but she was already ending!

>>102771463
Bruh...

>>102771599
Yes she does.

>>102771615
She managed to do it in the end

>>102771645
thats not her

>>102771568
Phoebe's going live to talk about VShojo right now. Maybe we'll get something.

>>102771710
oh lawd

>>102771463
is it? pretty sure ive done the same comment before and after that ban lmao and havent been banned anywhere else.
ive always thought its the mods power tripping cus its sponsored stream lol
>>102771639
yea... i wouldve felt bad cus of it but seeing her views really tanked since then, its all good. i cant even be bothered to apply for reappeal or some shit.
shes fairly doing well nowadays irl and outside vtubing just like hime (and probably the other vshojo OGs, thats why they barely stream anymore)

MODS can we please get IDs on this fucking board.

So, I wander what that COO is up to.

>>102771796
They are raiders and chimps themselves, anon
They would never allow that

for a thread that likes to whine about how they're the most oppressed minority on /vt/ you little bitches sure like to cry when you get even 1% of the threadshittery /lig/ gets

Someone link Feebee's stream

>>102771894
/BIG/ was literally created because of this shit, fag.

>>102771900
https://www.twitch.tv/feebee

This thread sucks

>>102771894
at least my streamer doesn't cry over cats not understanding polish kek

>>102771933
i literally created big faggot

>>102771957
...by bat.
YJK she goes for a quick buttblast when she takes a break.

>>102771956
Kinda hard to have a good thread when we are being raided by /lig/.

>>102771999
You haven't created shit, batnig.

Literally just report and ignore, this isn't hard

What is even the point of this
Like what goal is being accomplished

https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
https://www.twitch.tv/feebee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VG2cbzdoY8

I know how to save this thread. Stand back

>>102772075
Except every time he gets banned he just resets his fucking router and keeps spamming so it's an exercise in futility.
>>102772076
He has severe autism.

>>102771116
So another day ending with a -y?

>>102772092
Best post in this entire shithole

>>102772089
Oh, so she's currently with the third idol. She didn't say who she was.

Seems like 4th Monster Girl and 3rd Idol may never reveal themselves.

Another classically trained professional reaction to Mouses new song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuGROrkKYSs

YOOO GUYS WTF
URIEL SEPTIM JUST GOT ASSASSINATED!!!!!

>>102772108
Wasn't there a 15 minute timer just added to mitigate shitters who reset their IP? Where the fuck is that

Speaking of, Beri in Feebee's chat

>>102772153
My guess is they are already large and don't need the groundswell support more than they want to avoid the embarrassment of their involvement.

>>102770714
>>102770732

i know you both are shitposting but i honestly think either one of these are the most likely answer.

>>102772173
It's 2 minutes now, kek.

Wait, so a techbro who strapped a camera to a backpack, an anime shit poster with a substance abuse problem and an ex-lawyer who thought it was a good idea to show his face on camera fucking his sex worker gf couldn't properly run a company? Say it aint so

>>102772170
I hate her new base model

>>102772203
Yeah post-hack it was changed to 2 minutes to draw people back lol

>>102770949
but she and mythic beat them to the punch of doing one.

>>102772203
Wow what a useless fucking change
Might as well remove it. It's just an annoyance with no benefits at that point

>>102766812 (OP)
Kuro LOVE

>>102772209
Love it

>>102772207
>an anime shit poster sexpest with a substance abuse problem
FTFY

>>102770769

OH MY GOD FUCK THAT FUCKING KEK MTD

someone get her out of that third world shithole and in a place that has actual medical care instead of voodoo.


yeah i know the first part didnt have to do anything with the actual answer but given what we know, (and what we potentially dont know yet) it cant be said enough let alone too much.

HEY MODS CAN YOU JUST RANGEBAN THIS CUNT ALREADY? THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING.

CU CK LOSER BITCH

>>102772270
I'm sorry I preferrer this one better

Feebee corroborating that she didn't know about the monster girl gen either

looks like i got mod aggro, will be back later :)

Phoebe just confirmed on stream that she's staying in Japan with the person who was going to be the third member of the idol group. Also says she had no idea the monster girl gen existed until only a couple of weeks ago.

>>102772165
NEDES DID 3E/433
THEY COULDN'T STAND SUPERIOR NORD GENETICS RULING THE EMPIRE

>>102772321
Could you shut up? just ignore it

>>102770769
>shits aggressively
>gets confused
The queenfailure strikes again.

>>102772376
hope you overdose

Wasn't nyan supposed to ult today

>>102772321
that would kill the site since all SEA shitters would get hit

As bad as VShojo was, I find it hilarious that there a 2 views saying they dodged a bullet by not getting accepted

Feebee updated her Bandcamp for the first time in 5 years with what her planned aesthetic in VShojo was going to be. She was going to be green

>>102772416
>all SEA shitters would get hit
>/vt/ if that happened

>Couldn't even debut with older members pre debut like she could at PRISM
>Only got a new logo out of the whole ordeal because of how badly Vshojo was managed
Pheobe got a rough deal, goddamn.

>>102772207
>techbro who strapped a camera to a backpack

turns out he isnt even with that company.

I kind of like bat spammer, I just started hanging around here again before all this happened and noticed some missing past schizos, those kind of people are important for a community like ours, even if we don't appreciate them at the time.

This was the biggest possible drama that could have happened with the company (arguably with EN vtubing as as a whole). So I hope you all appreciate what you had while it was here. There will be a slow trickle of new information over the next weeks and months, but it will mostly be reiterating things that have already been said. All that's really left if for mouse to fill in the blanks, and Mel's status of evil mastermind to be (dis)proven.

Personally I'm into see what moose has to say, if anything, about what she experienced.

>everything is on hold because they never gave her money and she doesn't have that money
damn

Feebee crying now

Gunrun making so many people cry. CODE RED, you have permission to kill.

>>102772569
hi bat spammer

Gunrun belongs in a prison

>>102772569
Fuck off

So the third is Juna Unagi, right?

>>102772494
its just cope, yeah the girls are owed money but its not like they didn't also make a lot of money and grow a lot of viewers. The only one really coming out of this with any long term damage is probably going to be mouse due to the fucking mental damage of having someone like Gunrun lie right to her face and gaslight her knowing she can't easily verify any of it herself cause of her unique position.

>>102772679
The girl who sings about semen and piss all the time is not in the idol gen

>>102772679
We don't know retard

>>102772709
I would legit beat your ass to near death if I saw you irl

>>102772667
sounds like the IRS or maybe even the SEC might be doing that soon.

Its still a grim reminder knowing that for as many success stories there are in vtubing, some people really try hard but never really make it.

>>102772582
Familiar faces in the chat too, hope she can get some help to try to turn things around

>>102772709
why are you so angry?

>>102772679
She doesn't live on Japan does she?
>>102772519
Funnily enough, Pheobe technically was on a concert with Mouse before.

>>102772749
Did you mean to post this in /asp/

>>102772494
Yeah, VShojo still was a golden ticket to everyone who joined and being owed chump change for merch sales doesn't change that. A lot of ex-talents owe quite a bit of their popularity to VShojo and Gunrun.

>>102772780
wut

>>102772749
thats not just vtubing anon, thats just life itself. Not everyone can do anything, sometimes you just have to accept reality. Doesn't mean you can't find fulfillment in being a creator, but sometimes you gotta accept you just don't have what it takes to make it big or aren't willing to put in the work it honestly takes.

>>102772810
Where's the money gunrun?

>>102772824
I was making a joke about how /asp/ is a bunch of people not making it, please ignore me

https://x.com/Mizzimie/status/1949195649163112916?t=cW3zltPyHsLimFycgOQHZQ&s=19
FREEDOM

>>102772735
The only thing you've ever beaten is your own tiny cock, bitch.

>>102772810
wheres the fucking money MTD. a house and a fucking lambo aint fucking chump change

>>102772766
Calling someone "retard" is standard 4chan banter. If you can't handle it maybe reddit is more your speed, kiddo.

>>102772902
>>102772952
You have to be over the age of 18 to use this site

>>102772952
JUST-A BIT O' BANTER

>>102772767
>on japan
Mint doesn't live in Japan either what does that matter

>>102772810
>chump change
Nyanners is owed over 100k
Kson is owed over 200k
Mouse is owed somewhere around 400k-1 mil+
That isn't chump change you revisionist cunt and these are only the talents who have stated what they are owed.

>>102772915
>nooo my favorite multimillionaire streamer is owed an affordable bungalow in west virginia
Cry me a river

>>102773003
Henya is owed something in the price range of a lambo she said.

>>102772999
Phoebe's saying she's staying at the third member's place for this trip. So the third member has to live in Japan.

>>102772987
I agree, you should leave immediately.

>>102772999
Because feebee said she was staying with the third unknown girl in japan

>>102773007
What about the new hires that barely have any money and are owed a bunch of money they spent on debuting?

>>102773003
Nyan eventually got paid I think thanks to her lawyers. Vei and Silver still haven't gotten fully paid though

>>102773061
nta but they arent owed any money

>Staying in Japan
>They won't reveal themselves
bro... what if the third member is a Holo

>>102773078
Baffling post
Even they have said they are owed money they were promised. They were given a budget of several thousand each to spend on debuts that would be reimbursed that they already spent

>>102773078
>they arent owed any money
for the love of god, I beg of you, at least threadread if you don't watch streams

>Was happy when she saw Gunrun wear her friendship bracelet
Pheebs...

>I was so happy when i saw gunrun wear my friendship bracelet around the con
HE NEEDS PUNISHMENT

>>102773007
get a job you poor bitch

>>102773114
Going into RRAT OVERDRIVE WITH THIS ONE BROS

>>102772810
>chump change
>>102766899

>>102773167
Now list their net worth

Man, fuck VShojo
Also some Panini love.

>>102773007
you definitely cant afford a 5$ sub

>>102772885
who

>>102773191
Forgot to add it

>>102773135
>>102773149
why the fuck would gunrun do this?

>>102773198
hes a welfare sperg

Mouse owes all these never debuted talent a lump sum payment. She's one of the biggest reasons why people saw VShojo in a good light.

>>102773245
Maybe he isn't as comically evil as this thread portrays?

>>102773065
Nyan has NOT been paid.

>>102773260
that's zens job being a savior fag

>>102773078
You're dumb as fuck, yes they are owed money you tourist.

>>102773271
Gunrun, a noose is an easy way to avoid the situation you're in

>>102773271
No shit he isn't "comically evil", that's what makes it so mindboggling he let this all happen. Like there's a limit to how incompetent someone can be

>>102773245
He's a sick, sick man

>>102773271
Shut up mtd

>>102773271
he is
he was being a sociopath cunt that created nice guy persona
behind closed door he was absolutely evil

>>102773242
based llm enjoyer using em-dashes in twitch chat

reminder people like MTD absolutely would still post here trying to change the narrative

>>102773287
If I'm not wrong I think her video stated that eventually she did manage to get her money

>>102773325
no they arent. watch streams faggot

>>102773271
>Wears her friendship bracelet while knowing damn fucking well the company is going under and he's stealing her money
THAT IS THE EPITOME OF COMEDICALLY EVIL YOU RETARDED BOOTLICKER

>>102773372
That's just a regular dash retard

>>102773271
stealing from charity is comically evil

>>102773065
I think you got confused with all the drama. It was Vei who said that, not Nyan

>>102773372
>em-dashes
---- -------- ------

>>102773401
It wasn't going under. He thought he had an upcoming investment but the deal fell through.

lol this guy is going to have an aneurysm, why is he whiteknighting so hard for some e-whores

>>102773397
The agency is required to reimburse them for debut fees you massive fucking idiot.

>>102773391
I hope that's the case, but some people just are THAT desperate to be company worshipping sheep

>>102773422
Vei's tweet said she hasn't been fully paid

>>102773458
>BRO THE COMPANY ISN'T GOING UNDER I JUST BOUGHT A LOTTO TICKET WE GONNA BE RICH!
Fuck off lol

>>102773271
He isn't comically evil
He was just too full of himself and what the talents have built on, not him. He was surrounded by people who were greedier and creepy, and couldn't accept that they were going to ruin it eventually. He treated VShojo as this huge thing to the size of Hololive, without understanding what made it big, and what people were seeing on it. And his "good intentions" were only to build that more and more.

>>102773461
>required
According to who? Most agencies make the talents pay for their debuts, maybe give a small stipend at best

>>102773458
If it wasn't going under, where did the charity money go?

>>102773458
>It wasn't going under
there's no way you're not trolling

>>102773508
According to every Vshojo talent ever, since they fucking explicitly said they get stipends for debuts, you doulbe nigger.

>>102773507
Shut the fuck up Gunrun, can't wait to see your ass go to prison for embezzlement.

>>102773271
With Vshojo's pitch deck and his desire to poach talents, I'm willing to say that he's either egotistical or a bit of a sociopath that doesn't care about who he fucks over in the pursuit of cash.

>>102773507
>holo cocksucking

>>102773458
Gun you have more important things to do than post on 4chan

>>102773402
i wasn't implying she used an llm to write that message, just that i have never seen anyone use em-dashes (functionality, not form) in twitch chat before. take it as an observation on the effect of llm-slop on real human writing styles

>>102773461
no they arent. the shit 2views of the new gen wont lawyer up and those agreements werent in writing. seethe

>>102773565
VShojo wasn't Hololive, and didn't need to be. Yet, he was so obsessed with it, and wanted to be """better""" than it.

>>102773507
>He isn't comically evil
Stealing 500k from a charity to keep the company afloat when he knew damn well it was charity money is, in fact, "comically evil". Fuck off.

>>102773507
Yeah and I mean you even have it from Nyan herself. She was hesitant to call Gunrun evil even fucking yesterday because she didn't believe he would do anything like that maliciously and intentionally. And I guarantee you she knows him better than us random retards posting on 4chan lol. Grace that she did not extend to MTD who she didn't hesitate to shit all over lol.

>>102773608
VShojo was better than Hololive though

Idol Gen was supposed to debut in March, then pushed to June. They were planning an ARG for Offkai and soft launch the gen there. Pushed to July, then August, then they were told September.

Phoebe was supposed to be able to celebrate her 5-year anniversary with VShojo and started planning an album that VShojo was going to cover. VShojo had reached out and started work on a ton of it, but when they delayed the gen debut past her anniversary date she was told to pay for the album herself.

>>102773614
We literally have evidence he knew it was charity money. He's evil.

>>102773628
In theory it was.
In practice it wasn't, see which company is still alive and one is basically a corpse

>>102773628
yeah a better retirement home for the worst chuubas in the biz

>>102773614
She said that's what she thought before the charity fraud happened, obviously she thinks he's evil now

>>102773664
In practice when Hololive inevitably goes under the models will be auctioned off so Yagoo can get a new yacht. VShojo going under affected nobody

>>102773628
In terms of being a self sustaining business? It was far worse, they burned money at a rapid rate and their business model was in no way sustainable. It didn't even make sense to open a Japanese branch when they were already in the hole with their Californian HQ.

>>102773628
>>102773665
I think both of these subhumans should kill themselves

>>102773659
sounds like ironmouse fucked up. has she even donated to the charity yet?

Did the geegass get bigger?

>>102773659
Once again anon, look at how VShojo's financials worked. It makes sense that it could have been used inadvertently and he wasn't saying he didn't know about the subathon. People really just be regurgitating rrats from the catalog without thinking for even a minute and putting the pieces together.

>>102771832
https://files.catbox.moe/mwudp4.jpg
>20220702

>>102773716
How the fuck is this Ironmouse's fault when she never personally had the money?

>>102773727
it got smaller

>>102773733
okay ignacio

>>102773727
Assuming she's got the same ass proportionately then it would be bigger by virtue of simply being taller

>>102773716
hang yourself holonigger

>>102773727
The geegass is non existent

If Mel is proven to be guilty (keyword if) will she get removed from the OP?

>>102773733
>It makes sense that it could have been used inadvertently
He was the fucking CEO. It was his god damn job to make sure it was sent to the charity and not used on operation costs. I don't give a fuck how bad their financials were, that doesn't absolve him. He is responsible and criminally negligent at fucking BEST. He's an evil cunt and I cannot wait to see him rot in a cell.

>>102773733
You're either a troll or Gunrun himself.

>>102773797
Why? She would still have been part of vshojo

>>102773698
>"VShojo going under affected nobody"
>the lost money to talents and charity
>the money that was supposed to go to people who clearly don't have way to pay the bills
>the emotional damage to the talents
>>102773609
>>102773561
I do agree what he did by the end is evil, to a comical level. But again, it all goes back to being all so full of himself and the company he had.
It was a desperate and sad move that caused his downfall.

>>102773828
Nigga I've been here and following shit. Did you even hear what Loutlot told Kson? What Fugi said?

>>102773797
No, this thread is the obituary. Shes just as on topic as gunrun is.

>>102773797
If Mel is proven to be guilty she's going to have to graduate and disappear, so yeah technically.

Gunrun was a victim of circumstances like everyone else and will be eventually be exonerated with time

>>102773826
Check the ref sheet

Mel isnt guilty

>>102773892
Gunrun is going to fucking prison lol

>>102773738
that was a while ago he's probably not at anime expo anymore

No ass

>>102773745
all the money went to her personal accounts from the subathon. she had all of it.

>>102773947
Someone up this up in Photoshop and brighten it. See if we can get an outline of the ass

>>102773947
still would

>>102773947
4 10 with long ass legs why????

>>102773984
No it didn't you fucking idiot. You're just proving you're a tourist now. Ironmouse had a unique setup where ALL payments, including subs and donos, went to Vshojo instead of her. Vshojo was then supposed to pay her AND handle the charity donation. She never had the fucking money.

>>102773924
maybe in your fantasy world

>>102773993
just because you got cucked by a texan dragon doesn't mean you need to make it our problem Apex

HENTREYA LIVE

>>102773892
gunrun is gonna be deported to el salvador

>>102774063
Charity fraud, tax fraud, and wire fraud are crimes, Gunrun.

>>102774026
She's not 4'10 on this model

>>102774042
yes that definitely happened! also gullible is in the OP

>>102774042
>You're just proving you're a tourist now
The chimp wasn't being exactly subtle. I imagine they're hard at work in their discord or doxxsite to somehow blame this on mouse. Remember, as much as they hated the org they hate the members twice as much.

Funny for how 5 years literally everyone who spoke to Gunrun called him a polite, thoughtful and an all around nice guy and then overnight he suddenly turns into a scheming sociopath because he fumbled one payment

>>102774129
She literally stated it happened in a video curated by her fucking attorney. You are dumb as hell.

>>102774129
nta but that is what happened

I want to lick Pia.

What do slime girls taste like?

>Get a new thread ready
>We're nearly at the bottom of the catalog
>wtf I thought we were on page 9
>There's so many threads being fucking deleted that page 10 almost doesn't exist

>>102773902
No

>>102774161
hmm what reason could she have to lie? surely she wouldnt try to fit a narrative

>>102774182
What's happening now?

>>102773947
fucking downgrade

>>102774158
its called narcissism

>>102774158
>HAHA WHOOPSIE I ACCIDENTALLY SPENT FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS MEANT FOR CHARITY ON KEEPING THIS BLACK COMPANY OPEN FOR ANOTHER YEAR! TEEHEE I AM SUCH A KLUTZ!
Sociopaths are good at hiding they are sociopaths, anon.

>>102773947
the anon who said diaper really got in her head kek

>>102774233
I don't know but when I took that screenshot there were 4 threads on page 10. Now there's 3 lol

>>102773947
I can an ass anon

>>102774177
According to Pia's stream yesterday, they taste like whatever their diet is. And in her case she eats pickles nonstop so she tastes like pickles

>>102774145
>they hate the members twice as much
yeah, you could legit see when the catalogsharts realized none of the members were graduating and how much it enraged them

>>102774232
Lying on the record when she's going to be going to court for this would be beyond stupid, the only thing stupider being you not seeing this. Especially given Gunrun has ADMITTED to misappropriation of the funds. I won't be replying to you again, go back to wherever you came from.

Snuffy's live someone ask her if MTD tried to get her to do cocaine with him too (god I would do anything to have her back)

>>102774236
Tbh, if they were retarded enough to keep a singular account I can see how that fucking idiot went "Eh i'll just take another 500k from mouse's subathon money, what's the worst that can happen".

>>102774264
Now there's 2 what is happening out there lmao. Look bros we're going to be on page 10 for a while before I drop a new thread page 10 almost doesn't exist

>>102774233
Just neverending bait threads I'd imagine

>>102774271
>According to Pia's stream yesterday, they taste like whatever their diet is
My semen then.

>>102774158
Ted Bundy would like a word with you

>>102774236
holy kek you are mad. who are you a paypig for?

>>102774271
>my new oshi taste like pickles
>i hate pickles

>>102774177
Open wide, you're about to find out.

>>102774325
>"Eh i'll just take another 500k from mouse's subathon money, what's the worst that can happen".
I mean that'd be a pretty evil thing to think given that the money was meant for charity.

>>102774328
Finally
The end of /vt/
Good riddance

>>102774310
>going to court
i thought she was sick and couldnt leave her house? your story is falling apart

>>102774356
You and your oshi (if you have one) should kill themselves tbdesu. It would be a great boon to the world and most importantly, your family.

>>102774106
>walk around with Ari
meh

>>102774109
> Charity fraud
I don't think this situation counts as that, otherwise ironmouse would be liable for collecting money for charity and then allowing it to go elsewhere instead. Promising to give out half of the subathon proceeds to charity is not legally binding.

> Tax fraud
Probably should make a profit first before worrying about taxes

>>102774358
Easy to fix if you just need to convince her to eat something else

>>102774325
It could have been even dumber than that. Like
>I need 300k. Do we have that much in the account? Oh we've got 600k? That's a surprise. Let's do it.
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE CHARITY DONATION WAS DEPOSITED THIS MORNING
If the outcome wasn't so bad it honestly sounds like it could have been fucking cartooonish lol

>>102774460
>otherwise ironmouse would be liable for collecting money for charity and then allowing it to go elsewhere instead
She wasn't the one who handled the money idiot.

>>102774443
you know they wont fuck you? you are seeing red for nothing simp

anyway uh

henry live

>>102774106
>walk around with Ari
yeh

>>102774460
>Promising to give out half of the subathon proceeds to charity is not legally binding.
Anon, if I sell a car and promise half the proceeds to charity and then keep ALL of it for myself that is 100% illegal.

>>102774325
>'ll just take another 500k from mouse's subathon money, what's the worst that can happen
that is fucking evil not retarded
faggots were so used to abusing Mouse and treating her like ATM they thought they can take her money with impunity
Vshojo and people like Gunrun were absolutely evil and still there are people here that for some reason still want to suck Gunrun's dick
I'm guessing it's those people that would always spam those gay /in/ edits of him

Tori live anons, tune in and either watch or mute the tab
https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane

>>102774404
somehow only the charity money disappeared but ironmouse still got her cut of the subathon money. funny how that works

>>102774503
You can delegate accountability now? Better start hiring some hobos to do financial crimes for me

>>102772412
Nyan said if she felt better but apparently still very sick

>>102774512
Grab a gun, call your mom and blow your brains out. The tears she'll be crying won't be from sadness.

>>102774568
She didn't you fucking idiot. She said they owe her money equivalent to the price of a god damn house.

>Gunrun gave Henya a fever and snot
FUCK YOU GUNRUN

>Kisaka Toriama hanging out in Feebee chat giving her constant support
Ooooh fuck - she was the 3rd member.
She graduated that persona in 2024 for unknown reason despite being a ~200ccv, and then after some time proceeded to stream on an alt for 15ccv, and it never made sense to me. Until now.
It's the same shit that happened to other members. She got recruited, things got delayed so she started streaming on an alt.
Fuuuuck, we missed on so much, that gen would be so amazing

Every time I visit this thread now, I have no idea who the fuck you guys are talking about

Crazy to think they were planning for 40 talents. I can't even imagine that version of VShojo.

>>102774609
I'm betting she's backing down until the NDA's happen. Vei's in a much more advantageous position than she is and it's easier for her to say fuck NDA and spill than her lol

>>102774503
She's the one who collected it though

>>102774553
>have company manage all your money
>surprised when the company uses it
>ironmouse simps
lmao