Thread 103014122

She really will milk this for content as long as humanly possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fiudk7Ddq8

Grifter gonna grift

has-been has to have been

>>103014122 (OP)
Who the fk is that guy even? Someone related to Vshojo JP?

>>103014122 (OP)
>content creator creates content
>monkey seethes

>>103014375
personal finances is content?

>>103014122 (OP)
>0 consequences
Gotta do what u gotta do to stay afloat

>>103014528
considering sleeping is content, yes

So why can't she talk about Vshojo yet we have 10 daily threads about the woman who announced she got a boyfriend? Both events happened basically at the same time after all

kson is so strange to me. why is she milking this situation in the way a drama tuber would

>>103014976
She went from shilling Vshojo as the second coming since Jesus to making content of how terrible they are

>>103014976
>yet we have 10 daily threads about the woman who announced she got a boyfriend?
And you enjoy that? It's incredibly boring at this point

>>103014993
she has to make up for years of jerking off vshojo

cons: none

>>103014976
>So why can't she talk about Vshojo
It may be a legal matter if there are lawsuits under way.
On the other hand having a boyfriend is not a crime.

>>103014993
She is a drama tuber

>>103015074
i think esl-anon was trying to question op why kson isn't allowed to milk vshojo for content when this place is milking nimi bullshit for over a week.

>>103014349
I looked up his bio and apparently he is an accountant lawyer and he is here to talk about VShojo accountant fraud. She legit collabed with JP LegalMindset

>>103014993
>>103014122 (OP)

VShojo legit mind-broke her

Before the whole shitshow came to light, she tried so hard not to make any drama related videos because she wanted to keep her image as "positive" as possible (with Vshojo used to fit right into her agenda), and the only time she created drama was about unicorns and the Niji 2% cut

But now that the cat is out of the bag and VShojo stole charity money, her brain failed to compute and committed self destruct, because she could not believe that such white agency is actually mega black behind the scene, and she has been defending the black corpo all this time. Kson was the VShojo window for the japs, and so it created an awful air on her that she was responsible for putting Vshojo on the JP map and pushing Nova into this company. As a result, she tried her very best to "cleanse the image" by shitting on Vshojo, even if that means she breaks her own positivity code by being drama queen all the time

>>103014122 (OP)
Kson is the new Sayu

It's hard to convince cucks becausre this is a simp board and they think you're defending a corpo
But the truth is simple
You can't trust women, you can't work with them because they have 0 loyalty
You see it all the time irl and in vtuving
This doesn't mean I'm defending vshoji or niji, fuck those faggots, but I'm not going to watch dramaniggers and grifters, I'm not giving these whores any money
If you support them you are part of the problem you retarded whore enabler

>>103015443
Kson/Coco have always been extremely bad to handle pressure, just look at how she doubled down on the Taiwan incident.
Fuck China but it was NOT a smart decision by her as someone representing a company...

If someone owed me six figures, I would be too.

>>103015231
he's an accountant who specializes in media figures, he's been her accountant for the past 5 years and almost certainly works with several hololive members as well
legal mindset is a disbarred pedophile hiding in sealand

This is why you need a corp to reign these retards in. I don't really know why you want to air your dirty laundry if there is a legal case happening related to it. It's like a repeat of Karl vs Billy, where Karl kept on making videos about the lawsuit despite it only weakening his case

>>103014993
>why is she milking this situation in the way a drama tuber would
Because these are the best views she's had in years

>>103015772
isnt the Vshojo rage stream her most viewed stream so far?
iirc it even beat her re-debut and model reveal kek

>>103014122 (OP)
0 consequences

>>103014993
It's hardly rocket science, Anon...
>Hasn't been paid by Vshojo since late last year
>Vshojo is now defunct and can't come after her
>Is a topic that people are very interested in for the time being
>Can now make videos that pull in high views and revenue

>>103014993
A significant portion of her personality for the past 4~ish years has just been "Vshojo shill" so you can imagine it's kinda hard for her move on

>>103016366
you people are fucking delusional lmao

>>103016364
It must hurt her pride so hard lol

>>103016386
her most viewed clip ever is literally her shilling vshojo and shitting on other corpos

>>103016017
no it's not and no it didn't

>>103016441
her most viewed clip is her talking about how wide her shoulders are, it's very easy to search "kson" on youtube and sort by most views
you are a nijisister from the philipines who is still mad she pointed out 2% is a terrible fucking cut

>>103016453
>Drama stream 45k ccv
>3D reveal 36k ccv

Really now...

>>103016546
That's really fucked lmao

>>103016441
>>103016501
both are wrong, idk if these 2 being her top 2 clips is better though

>>103016546
oh jesas

>>103016453
>>103016546
It must really hurt when you say something that is easily proven wrong...
What were you even thinking? Anyone here could check that in sub 2 minutes and now you just look stupid instead...

>>103016546
>ccv
I thought you meant views
sorry I'm not well versed in monkey terminology

>>103016770
>I'm not well versed in monkey terminology
funny you'd expect someone sucking up to Kson would know monkey language all too well, seethe harderj

>>103016546
I guess this proves the 0 consequences was bull, it gave her her most popular stream she should be thankful kek

>>103016614
is that spanish or italian or wtf am I looking at

>>103016441
>>103016501
Her most viewed clip is her nipples poking through her shirt

>>103014349
>>103015231
>>103015642
He's a pretty famous accountant with a accounting company that specializes on celebrities.
He's also on the level that he'd be called to TV shows as an expert, etc. and has several best seller books.

So an actual expert with some prestige.

>>103014122 (OP)
the only thing I care about is when will she next show her ass again? one of you will post it right?

>>103018028
I bet the thotery will go up after going back to indie

>>103014122 (OP)
no cons!

If you watch hololive, this is your oshi's tax accountant

>>103017695
Should be good then

>>103014993
>>103014122 (OP)
She's going to get the money that vshojo owes her one way or another.

The saddest part is that this is like her 4th biggest stream this year

>>103021106
>My 0 concequences god-sent company scammed me
>Fans... cover my loss of income!
Just great

>repeat collab with a long-time member of the ksonverse
>monkeys have a chimpout about how mindbroken she is
the adventbaby thing isn't a meme

>>103021411
>mindbroken she is
You must've missed her twitter meltdowns

>>103021458
>heh. you tweeted that you're mad someone stole 300 grand from you? what a meltdown.

Can someone give a summary of the stream? Anything actually interesting or useful to know about the industry

>>103021585
you have AI to do it for you bud

>>103021490
>Starting to block people that prove she contradicts her earlier statements

>>103021714
She's blocking trolls, we watch streams you idiots don't stand a chance here with your false narrative bullshit you didn't even know she already collabed with this dude.

>>103021714
you mean brown retards who cant read and are now reaching weeks of not being able to read and still reposting the same shit?

>>103021714
Kson has frequently blocked people since late 2020. I got blocked on my "shit on chinese people" account 5 years ago. Also kill yourself, proctor.

>>103021731
>>103021736
KDF have arrived

>>103021750
So she's always been a grifting piece of shit, thanks for telling everyone.

>>103021808
Blocking subhuman twittoids is not grifting, eslbro.

>>103021585
TLDR:
- Once VShojo is officially bankrupt kson can get her taxes back, because she can prove that this money will never reach her.
- In the unlikely event someone buys VShojo the buyer would also get the debt and needs to pay kson, so in that case the IRS would assume the buyer will fulfill those obligations.

+ some other stuff, like how charity works in terms of taxes in Japan, people posting about meeting kson at events, etc. makes for good proof to the IRS that certain travel costs are tax deductible, etc.

>>103021823
>say objective truth of her bullshit
>nigson chimps out and bans you
>pretends that she's a good girl that dindu nuffin so that simps keep shoveling money at her
kay

>>103021892
>repeat a false claim stemming from a misunderstanding or malicious incorrect translation
>blocked for being a retard
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee kekson
Kson may not be in Vshojo anymore, but you will always be brown.

>>103021881
Thanks anon. It really is crazy how Vshojo gaslit their talents into thinking months without a paycheck was acceptable

>>103021911
>Cons: None

>>103021916
It's somewhat normal in the industry to a certain extent, according to people.

I work in automotive and it's even worse some times, especially with Chinese companies Though since COVID free cash flow has become a KPI companies now look at, instead of reporting just the "hypothetical" profits.

>>103021950
What does it say in Japanese?

>>103021967
Says that she's in on the scam and will be fucking over all the vtubers she "saves" from evil corpos.

Are the hired vshojo agents employed until 8/15(next philippine payday)?

>>103021998
How does one get "in on" having their money stolen from them?

>>103022022
Proof that she had money stolen from her? Let me guess, because she said so?

>>103021950
This never stops being funny

>>103021881 (me)
also
- What made VShojo believable/legitimate to him was the 11 million investment they got, and the good reputation of Gunrun as one of the founders of Twitch.
- Normally it's small corpos that die and cannot pay their talents
- For any charity event it is wise to set up a separate bank account just for that, so that the money is well separated. That makes the flow of money easy to prove to the IRS.

>>103014122 (OP)
This is so boring why do people watch her?

>>103022050
The company said so lol

>>103021881
>because she can prove that this money will never reach her.
How?
>>103022099
>The company said so
Who in the company said so? Gunrun? Proof?

>>103014122 (OP)
Kekson

>>103022127
Are you pretending to be retarded or do you not understand the whole concept of bankruptcy

>>103014122 (OP)
>wow, are you guys still talking about vshojo?

>>103022099
Where exactly was it shown that Kson had a "lambo" worth of money stolen from her? You have some financial documents that no one's seen? Or do you blindly trust some vague shit Gunrun posted like a tard?

>>103022146
Do you not understand the concept of embezzlement? You really think the biggest shill of Vshojo and Gunrun's right hand woman had nothing to do with all that money just up and disappearing?

>>103022174
I have a lot of information due to my incredible ability to watch streams and understand the language they are speaking.
>>103022199
Gunrun's right hand men are Apek and Mowtendoo, not Ironmouse. You're confusing ESL tourist rrats with reality.

>>103022146
I am asking a simple question, who said and who admitted that they stole money from Kson?
W H O ? ? ?

>>103022127
company is bankrupt so they cannot pay. As for money that's missing, it's just a matter of correlating bank transfers and invoices.
So pretty easy to prove at that point. Main thing is the IRS doesn't want to give the taxes back, if there is a possibility of her getting the money.

>>103022237
Vshojo's lawyer.

>>103022221
>I have a lot of information due to my incredible ability to watch streams and understand the language they are speaking.
I have my doubts in your cognitive abilities seeing as how you seem to think we're talking about Ironmouse and not Kson.

>>103014122 (OP)
lol

>>103022146
And another simple question, how can Kson PROVE that she never received the money?
Proof.
Let me remind you its possible for Kson to launder some of the money and lied about not receiving any of em.

>>103022246
read >>103022278
>>103022248
Proof? Which lawyer? Letterhead and official statement with police report attached please. And maybe court number too, thanks. Proof, remember, proof.

>>103022248
So you DO have access to documents pertaining to an ongoing lawsuit. Mind sharing them with us?

>>103022237
Literally the JP CEO
Do you even watch streams?

I know Vshojo is a scummy company but something doesn't add up, so I am still sitting on the fence about this fiasco, I am not accusing anyone one of anything until there's an official lawsuit.

>>103022324
>some random Jap claiming to be the JP CEO gets grilled by kekson and reveals literally nothing
Are you retarded?

Kson's journey from でんせつのドラゴン to also-ran has been depressing to witness.

>>103014993
Because that "Cons: Nothing" broke her and trying to cope or find someone to blame.

>>103022324
The JP CEo that never showed his name and his face? And the socalled JP CEO said the JP side is just a branch so it doesn't know what's the HQ up to, so please answer again, how can you be sure the authenticity of this JP CEO statement and is he really the JP CEO?

>>103022339
Are you?

>>103015231
>JP LegalMindset
Except this one is legal and legit

>>103022339
I mean if in your perception everything that conflicts with your theory is a lie or co-conspirator, then there is not much that can be proven here, because there is a cognitive disability that we need to deal with first.

>>103016546
Controversies draw tourists at the cost of your base.
If her conversion rate is poor, then she's losing out in the long term.

>>103022354
Please answer the question, stop deflecting since you are so sure about everything that is why I am pressing you for answer, if you don't know nothing you can just shut up dude, wait for the law and enforcement to handle everything instead. AND mind you if Kson is really suing Vshojo, she wouldn't be streaming and talking about all this because there would be a gag order enforced upon her.

Give up Mizutranni, you lost

>>103022379
The problem is how gullible people like you are who immediately believe everything you're told without questioning anything.

>>103022379
Please read this >>103022395 and >>103022325

I am not blaming Kson or hate her. Please take note.

>>103022278
>how can Kson PROVE that she never received the money?
Great question. There was just a stream about that, a few minutes ago. Basically Vshojo told Kson she would be paid a certain amount of money. She then included that amount in her taxes. She can then prove the money isn't there by referencing those invoices with her bank statements, which will show those transfers from Vshojo's bank are missing. Also the company lawyer calculated how much she is owed and straight up told her.
>Letterhead and official statement with police report attached please
Nobody is going to doxx themselves for you, schizo.
>>103022353
His name is Makino.

>The JP CEo that never showed his name and his face?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2nd57ql0g
what do you call people who are so uninformed that they are below clipwatchers?

>>103022436
So she can just claim a bunch of BS without providing actual proof. Okay. Somebody should probably be monitoring Kson's crypto wallets for movement of large sums of money. The truth will come out eventually.

>>103022486
phase or hololive

>>103022353
>The JP CEo that never showed his name and his face
you're retarded

>>103022353
makino koshi also known as loutlot/rooten is a pretty public figure
i thought you kirschepippa fags were good at doxxing

>>103022505
Whichever one makes you feel better, schizo.

>>103022486
2 more weeks

>>103022521
phase then. it makes me sad when hololive fans act like you. the girls are fun and nice and don't deserve schizo fans.

>>103022353
>CEo that never showed his name and his face
>>103022486
>crypto wallets for movement of large sums of money

>>103014122 (OP)
She's right on the middle of it, so she better milk it.

Reminder that hololive is a black company and all the vtubers remaining there betrayed kson.

>>103022404
I understood now why did you call them gullible, I will stop replying here, they are all hopeless. Let's just leave them alone in their echo chamber.

>>103022574
remember when they scammed 10k from kson's friend in 2022

reminder that being short and weak doesn't make you a "femboy", mizutranni, you also have to be good looking and pale for that

>>103022303
holy meltdown, you wouldnt even understand the police report even if you got it

OP here and this thread really picked up speed when we reached SEA hours... very interesting

>>103022404
So you think that kson, VShojo and a high profile Japanese accounting firm were conspiring, just to launder a measly couple $100k?

why didn't anyone shitpost when coco said hololive was awesome then got put in a banishment room and gave her a shitty contract to force her out

I'm windy bigolaf

>>103022538
>deadbeats
>KFP
They deserved it

>>103014931
>>103015057
>>103016309
>>103018844
>>103021131
>>103021950
Repeating something she said in 2022 is not going to take away the fact that she was right until last year.

>>103023367
She was already wrong when Veibae, Nyanners and Silver left in 2023.

>>103023504
she was talking about herself joining
none of those things happened to her

>>103023565
>I got mine and as long as the company isn't hurting me, it's all good

>>103023565
When they left the only thing he said is that their contracts got better and as far as you know true.
Whether vshojo will stop fulfilling them in the middle of 2024 is another thing.

>>103015123
I would milk Nimi and Kson if I could

>>103015539
yet you're still /here/ :) curious

>>103023614
>someone who works with JP staff says vshojo is good in 2022 but EN staff did bad things in 2023
wow

>>103024141
Nigger there wasn't any fucking jp staff in 2023 are you fucking retarded.

>>103024331
loutlot, mamane, highgai, ryo

>>103024331
makino was there since 2020

>>103017695
I think I remember Coco asking him back in Hololive on how to avoid taxes by opening a cult?

>>103023367
>And other things her naive fans eat up

>>103025142
This thread alone is evidence that her fanbase is a borderline cult

>>103025445
>how dare you fact check me :(
>y-y-you're in a cult

>>103025507
holofags are in a cult

>>103025542
true

There's no good reaaon to not dislike hololive and their vtubers in 2025

>>103015074
it's a bigger deal from the audience perspective because it affects their enjoyment directly while legal matters like that mostly affect the talent and only some of it have any interest to people who just want to have fun.

>>103025445
sorry you got blocked mizutranni

>>103025658
i like when you insult hololive and then some guy will accuse you of being some random schizo you've never heard of so then you can go look them up and have a fun time learning about new drama

>>103025716
>when you insult hololive
It was kson's fanbase that was insulted. They're the ones that like calling people random names they fight on twitter.

>>103025789
nah i've been doing it in /#/ for like 4 years. you show up every so often and post a botted hololive graph and they're like "oh look dinklesperg is back"

>>103015049
anything not to admit vshojo was a failure from the start and never turned a profit
gotta stick it to cover any way she can for... I don't even know honestly, it's not like she was forced to do anything, maybe just revenge for them starting an EN branch so she's no longer unique

>>103025862
And? In this thread it was kson's fanbase that was insulted and the person mentioned a random nobody is a kson fan.

>>103025862
ksonbro you've been seethe posting on /#/ for four years...
please could you go watch her instead.

>>103014122 (OP)
Why shouldn't she? They robbed her of hundreds of thousands of dollars, she's gotta make it back somehow

>>103025926
nope. you're esl.
>>103025926
i have watched every kson stream.

>>103014122 (OP)
... So?

>>103025975
You're the only ESL here, ksoncuck.

>>103025993
the name's ennacuck, nerd.

>>103025862
you just want /#/ to call you "dinklesperg" dont you?

>>103015443
especially when she actually knew this for so long, not about the charity shit but money issues and contracts not living up to their TALENT FIRST image for example management told her to delete a post about froot and we know she was actually contractually obliged to do it because Shylily complained about this in particular so it seems like they were taking a big cut from her income too this whole time she absolutely knew the image was fake at least to some extent.

>>103026024
wouldn't mind if they added it to the list but i have like 5 names there already.

>>103026045
>not about the charity shit but money issues and contracts not living up to their TALENT FIRST image
kson's contract was really good. she got 100% of channel revenue, 100% of sponsorships and the majority of merch revenue. her only restriction was that she couldn't publicly disparage the company. the scheme was they gave good contracts to really vocal people so they would advertise for free and then they gave schizo contracts to people they thought they could bully like nyanners and vei.
>for example management told her to delete a post
that was fans in discord who got in contact with her manager because she was reposting an anti rrat.
>we know she was actually contractually obliged to do it because Shylily complained about this in particular
shylily's contract was completely different and for vshojo en which kson wasn't in.

>>103014122 (OP)
>kson
>as a dramatuber
>potentially slippery slope into doing adult content to show much she's still got it in(side) her
Oh, I am cum and I do like where this is going

>>103026171
Vshojo EN and JP was never a legal distinction just a label used by the company, no reason to think their contracts would be different based on that. I don't really see how nyanners, veibae or shylily would be seen as less vocal and easy to bully, this whores are bitches and always been seen as such.

>>103026346
apek was the contract schizo and he doesn't speak japanese.

>>103026346
kson had a different contract that was always good

>>103025789
Post one

>170 posts
>only 2 about the actual stream
What's the point of this thread?

>>103026919
KDF vs the rest

>>103014122 (OP)
Gotta respect the grifting

>>103014122 (OP)
she only got 6k peak ccv from this, it's barely even buff

>>103014122 (OP)
I am enjoying her becoming a lolcow

>>103022870
here, some goga gola
because you're epic

>>103014122 (OP)
I fond it really weird and annoying how much she's trying to "not directly say" that Hololive treated her badly, like, we easily could tell how they weren't effective at all at helping her out from the bullet hail she took for Chama with the chinks, and that she kept being angry that her cut of SCs didn't reflect how she was at the top of it, but come on, we know that shit already and it's not like we don't believe it, you're turning from being a victim to playing one in my memories more and more

>>103033026
do you have one single example of her doing this?
considering she supposedly does it all the time it should be easy

>>103029993
6k is way way over avg for her

>>103029993
You're seriously overestimating her normal CCV

>>103029993
Anon. Her vtubing streams do worse than holostars streams. Some of her monster hunter streams got 300 ccv.
The only thing keeping her channel afloat is drama and Coombait.

>>103037644
damn she really sucks at this indie vtubing thing then, considering her numbers were alright at holo

>>103022515
>kirschepippa fags
These are chinks and other East Asians you're talking to

>>103043529
>her numbers were alright at holo
Her solo streams were never popular.

>>103043529
Clip numbers and public awareness are not ccv

>>103037644
>TALENT FREEDOM = drama and coombait
kek

>>103049761
it's not easy working without managers or any brand support, they were basically indies

>>103037644
I wonder if the avg will go up or down after this drama have died down some

>>103014122 (OP)
She has all the rights to mil since shes not getting paid since she joined vshojo
KEK she even regret saying "no cons" about joining vshojo

>>103014231
>Grifter gonna grift
That was vshitshow's entire brand, grifters. No use getting salty now Ironsisters.

if Kson wasnt saggy I'd milk her

>>103014976
>So why can't she talk about Vshojo yet we have 10 daily threads about the woman who announced she got a boyfriend?
You know why.
Take solace we now know these retards actually did it for fucking free rumao

>>103014122 (OP)
First time? You must be new.

>>103064196
It's a little sad coming from someone people talk positively about