I'm not a numbers fag, I'm just curious as to what causes this particular sort of case.

>>103024678 (OP)
Market saturation.

>>103024759
Yeah but her subscriber numbers don't make sense for her view count.
I've watched 1views before, they usually have subscriber numbers to match.

>>103024834
Bots. YouTube has bots that autosubscrice to random channels. I have a few subs on my YouTube with 0 videos.

>>103024910
I might have seen those on my own account, but that was one or five, not three thousand.

>>103024678 (OP)
>hides her name
>but doesnt bother hiding her pfp

I usually get scared that she might talk to me if there's less than 10 viewers

>>103024678 (OP)
you should try coming to /#/ ^^

>>103026192
Yeah me too bro.
I'm somehow worse at talking on the internet than I am in real life.

茶村 椿 新人Vtuber

Tsubaki_Samura

Probably made a social media post that got some traction, bunch of people subbed but then never end up watching.
Or built from shorts. Shorts watchers never watch streams.

>>103027093
Do shorts watchers even subscribe? If her shorts were super amazing, that should translate into some more live viewers.

>>103024997
Probably because you don't regularly make videos.

>>103026963
>making vtuber content for 4 years
>新人
what

>>103027302
Yes, look at Rin Penrose. She's got like 850k subs (built off shorts that hit the algo) but she still averages a 3view ccv

>>103027302
They sub but don't watch. The typical life of a shorts fag is 99.9% or more will watch for 5-60 seconds, maybe sub, then move on and never come back. That's why when they decided to allow that retarded format for streams, so many people were doing it. Putting a retarded format with #shorts in the title put you in the youtube shorts doomscroll, and some people got a significant sub boost from that over the course of a few months, with no change in average viewer level on other streams.
I'm not even a numberfag, this is just my observation and I dropped every vtuber that decided to do those streams beyond an arbitrary threshold, including my former oshi.

Bro, nobody is even liking her tweets, she's talking to herself....FUCK I regret checking this thread now I feel bad for her
https://x.com/Tsubaki_Samura/status/1951692803941245287

>>103028143
You can save her. Become an oil baron and make her succeed

>>103024678 (OP)
The case study is Rin Penrose; if you focus on producing clickbait shorts, you will only receive subs of poor quality.

>>103028143
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg94Ep-UzSA
I don't. Anyone that does a gaming vertical stream deserves nothing. Even if only once.

GRIM

>>103028019
And Punkalopi who had every kid on ritalin watching her shorts and then joined idol-en.

>>103028607
Punkalopi never joined Idol she's still an indie

>>103024678 (OP)
>>103028143
I can't watch people that aren't popular because of this. It just feels sad.
I cope into thinking it's okay since they would be playing videogames anyway so streaming doesn't take any effort but ugh

What blows my mind is when I come across channels that have clearly been 1views for years, literally years.
And they still keep going. And stream games and talk about things.

>>103029299
That's the actual idol journey, if they ever get successful, they'll be right to be proud of it

>>103028291
stop it anon, don't show me this

>>103029299
As a one view myself I don't worry about the popular games or whatever. I just stream on my days off because I was going to play the games anyway so why not. Sometimes someone talks to me and that's fun.
People are either going to watch or they aren't. Maybe its the wrong time of day, maybe what you're doing isn't popular at the moment. As a streamer you don't know. You just have to put yourself out there.
Overall I'm satisfied with what I do. I don't dare do karaoke because of copyright claims etc but its fun to sing poorly and imagine someone accidentally clicking into it

>>103029299
That's the hobby side of it. Same as the early days, before you could make money from it. I've been streaming on and off since mid 2011. Would do it more but I am the only one in this house that doesn't have a night shift schedule.

>>103024678 (OP)
i've been burned once watching and interacting with low views, not risking it again.
also once i followed a link from here and was the 5th viewer on the stream and got an acknowledgment right as i was quickly closing it. hopefully that one didn't sting that person too much...

>>103024678 (OP)
>>103028143
If only I knew Japanese...

>>103028143
>>103028291
Worst part is that this is just one of the many other vtubers who are not doing well with numbers. I know they probably might not care about them and they might have fun or at least that's what i wanna believe but it still hurts. I used to sub to almost any low view vtubers i saw in my recommends or found on here but there are so many of them i just stopped. I can't anymore.

at least link to her youtube so she can get some views you retard

>>103028019
She simulcasts. Her stream audience is on Twicht.

>>103024678 (OP)
>>103028291
>>103028143
Then stop crying and go follow her.
Remember to always follow at least a 1view or 2view for whenever you want some comfy streaming instead of the usual /lig/, /big/ and big corpo content.

>>103028143
This is the way of any artist, street performers will stand and play for hours and hours and make a couple bucks here and there.
You feel bad but you also look away, embarrassed for them even though they have moved passed that point already.

>>103027721
>4 years
I know another Vtuber who does so, and their viewership never passed 2views. I watch from time to time and even give suggestions to what more they can do to improve but that's all. Clearly something ain't working for you.

>>103034236
Maybe... chasing noombers isn't the be all-end all solution for most vtubers if they've been streaming this consistently despite their viewership for 4/5 years (aka they have autism)

>>103034236
Hitting it big on entertainment is a mix of luck and talent.
You can be very talented and do a lot of interesting content. But if the algorithm or another huge content creator/chuuba doesn't notice you, that's it, you are forever stuck on 2viewland. Even if you have clippers, if they also get ignored by the algo, there's nothing you can do.

>>103034659
I suppose, but sometimes you must see the sunk cost fallacy. Youtubers try and start new channels because after a few years the algorithm buries you.

>>103034236
I know someone who streams to a crowd of 20. When I checked her fanbox she has 30k donor tier that's full. Some of these 2view girls only look pitiful on the outside but some of them are still making bank

>>103033426
I started doing that and now I can't stomach big corpo vtubers, even the ones that aren't really playing hard into a character still have a weird corpo feel

>>103034201
Yeah that is why the people who earn a livable income from vtubing/livestreaming are the extreme outliers. 90%+ are not earning money/making below min wage in their country. The hardest part is getting big enough either through luck, connections, or both. There are some extremely talented/smart people that just don't make the break.

>>103028291
What extension is that for the furigana btw?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs2VpDNC6cQ

She has a nice voice

>>103028143
I'm tweeting to myself too.

>>103028291
IT LITERALLY HURTS TO SEE

Whelp, there goes my chance to groom her.

>>103028094
>and I dropped every vtuber that decided to do those streams beyond an arbitrary threshold, including my former oshi.
Pretty based.
I do remember that phase when even the big corpos, like Hololive, were doing vertical streams. Because big corpos were doing it, I didn't think it was for numbers, I thought it was women being women (women really love the shorts format).

Checking her shorts, she has only like six shorts in total, so it can't be that. Her Twitter is apparently baron as well.
But random bots in the thousands is hard to believe. Unless... she payed for them.