Thread 103030348

HoloEN streaming hours dropped by almost 50%
We need EN5 more than ever

>>103030348 (OP)
almost as if there is an entire EN concert they are getting ready for.

>>103030487
These are YoY stats, there was also a concert at the same time last year and there were still more streams

Transfer IRyS and FWMC to JP and fire the rest. They're leeches.

>>103030487
Ohh my gooood !! They have to sing at most 4 songs each !!!!! This must take sooooo much time to prepare !!!! The staff is so competent it will take even moooore time !!!!!! Not like Suisei prepared 3 solo concerts in 1 and a half month and still found time to make update streams, not at all !!!!

>>103030520
Justice was new and not in the concert last year.

>>103030592
Seethe more phasecuck

>>103030592
there are plenty of indie vtubers to watch if you don’t like it

>hololive is dying
b a s e d

>>103030661
Explain how a single member managed to prepare 6 hours worth of concert, solo, live, when holoEN struggles to prepare 2/3 of it in the same amount of time, for prerecorded slop.

>average went up
>hours went down
Unironically how does this work? Wouldn't losing a bunch of no-streaming lazyfucks who nontheless had huge viewership actually cause the reverse?

>>103030703
They never streamed there's your answer

>>103030691
recording for 1 person takes a lot less time than recording for groups of people. hope this helps your tiny brain

>>103030348 (OP)
> +211.9%
PHASEGODS

>>103030592
>>103030691
Look at the number of hours this year for Suisei, not a good example...

>>103030739
>Rehearsing for 2 hours of singing in a row takes less time than recording slop
Maybe when you're a bunch of untalented whores, which is what is left of HoloEN at this point

>>103030802
ogey

>>103030348 (OP)
>the lazy whore problem will be solved with the addition of yet more lazy whores
Never understood this logic.

half of it is Biboo

>>103030703
One or two people does not move the needle when you have 15 or so girls
It shows that this no-streams issue is a branch-wide problem

>>103030851
She's not that fat...

>>103030348 (OP)
>this board is the only one who's actually concerned about this
I think you guys should just chill out.

>>103030348 (OP)
>HoloEN streaming hours dropped by almost 50%
The summer of 2025 is really bad since they had 4 graduations that have demoralized the EN branch. Streaming also dropped like a rock in the second half of 2022 when Sana left and other talents were considering graduation.

>>103030348 (OP)
>We need EN5 more than ever
Mori already hinted that Hololive won't have another gen until late fall or winter. Cover will release another Holostars EN gen in the next few months. They alternate between Hololive and Holostars gens with the EN branch.

>>103030978
>D-d-dont notice !!!!

>>103030986
more stars failures to take up studio time! epic, I’m sure this won’t lead to more graduations

>>103030348 (OP)
38%, not 50%. Go back to school, subhuman.

>>103030986
The next homo gen would be a negative gen, aka the shuttering/mass graduation of homostars

>>103030986
>another Holostars gen
I would be surprised. 2nd gen was hard carried by Bettlel and Armis is pretty much a nothingburger.

>>103030348 (OP)
I'd be more curious for a new ID gen.

>>103030348 (OP)
>HoloEN streaming hours dropped by almost 50%
Why the more obsessed /#/monkeys are also the most illiterate.

>>103030348 (OP)
>131%
>212%
They botting entire companies lol

>>103031731
Not sure "HoloEN hours dropped by almost 40%: is really any better to be honest with you ESLbro

>>103031833
The funniest part of this image is that Hololive is shrinking while botted though. Can't bot those who don't stream after all.

>>103031834
At least is a honest assessment and shows that you understand how numbers work.

>>103030801
Imagine wasting your time making this

>>103030348 (OP)
>-26% is almost -50%

>>103032592
wrong column, that one is watch hours

>>103030592
>Not like Suisei prepared 3 solo concerts in 1 and a half month and still found time to make update streams, not at all !!!!
>Suisei
Nigga literally EVERYONE in EN has double or triple her stream hours, which is hilarious because she's actually streaming MORE this year than what she usually does
What terrible example lmao

>>103031027
i've seen people unironically argue that hololive and holostars should be segregated but holostars should spend more time in the studio so the girls can rest more

>>103030348 (OP)
They need EN5 AND EN6
One gen will only make up for the people who left.

>>103034162
The people who left never streamed.

>>103030348 (OP)
Advent and Justice were in Japan.

>>103030767
heh

Biboo streamed more this year after moving to japan compared to last year
The rest streamed less

>>103030487
>NO STOP USING LOGIC I HAVE A NARRATIVE ! !

FPBP

>>103030348 (OP)
>niji coming back
what the fuck is this retardation, dyrbi? all bots

>>103035896
Biboo streamed more hours than Nerissa, Ina, and ERB put together? There are diminishing returns when they stream too frequently but still curious that an EN talent is consistently streaming more than 100 hours a month.

>>103036351
Biboo streams a healthy amount, theres some JPs like koyori and vivi that are already at 1000 hours and clocking 150 hours a month, although in vivi's case she didn't start idol/3D stuff so its easy for her
Its the other ENs that don't like streaming much, they do it as a job. Biboo does it to de-stress, streaming is her break

>>103030348 (OP)
EN5 will just get sucked into a Japan arc too. Cover is the reason we get less streams, not the girls.

>>103035896
Gura left because she couldn't keep up with her

>>103030663
Oh don't worry I watch plenty of Niji and Indies. Outside of Subaru, Pekora and Koyori i don't give a shit about Holo for EN Biboo, CC, GG and a bit of Irys

>>103036472
They only get Japan arcs after a year of streaming. ACCELERATING every November would fix this problem and make up for all tthe graduations. I don't trust Ina or IRyS to stick around much.

>>103036549
>Oh don't worry I watch plenty of Niji and Indies
lol

>>103036395
>Biboo streams a healthy amount, theres some JPs like koyori and vivi
Yeah but Koyo and Vivi are themselves outliers compared to the rest of HoloJP
Everyone on this board seems to this really retarded habit of cherry picking JPs who stream a ton and treating them like they're average rather than the exception for the purpose of pushing this "EN doesn't stream!!!" agenda when general averages are pretty comparable

>>103030592
>Using Suisei as an example
>Suisei, who is known to not stream a lot even by EN standards.
Hoshiyomis deluded about Suisei for the nth time.

They are garbage peddlers not streamers. They have to spend all of their time recording for ads and only show up for their QVC streams.

>>103030348 (OP)
>niji up 131%
>phase up 211%
lol.
lmao even.

>>103030348 (OP)
>Bleed a bunch of talent
>Be surprised there's less streaming going on

>>103030801
So what on earth does this mean? Watch hours?
Also I love how this dork's big ass head always stands out in any chart.

>>103037619
Outside of Biboo there is no EN in the TOP 20 but this is sorted by hours watched not by air time. The reason why Aqua is so high up is just a lot of shitters watched her graduation

>>103030348 (OP)
Yagoo, this is your chance... Ironmouse for en5

>>103030348 (OP)
Just watch Clio. She actually streams.

>>103037093
do you think that ACCELERATION is not the problem with niji, but instead the terrible percent of pay going to talents, mixed gender collabs chasing off the CGDCT audience, and talents not being tardwrangled to not get into twitter drama (mcdonald's palestine)?

>>103043296
I'm saying Holo should do it, not that Niji shouldn't. We should have been on EN7 by now.

>>103030348 (OP)
>Streaming hours dropped by almost 50%
>Still miles ahead of other groups
Yup, western vtubing scene is dead

>>103030348 (OP)
>the non-streamers leave
>now no one streams
GRIM

Hololive is an idol company, not a streaming service.

>>103030801
>Pekora
is that an incompetent hard worker

>>103045800
To bad only 1 or 2 members actually improved and the rest are still awful at everything except shilling merch

>>103045945
Being an idol != being good at idol stuffs

>>103030487
Its always like this. concert or not

It's almost like nimi reminded you retards that not a single 6 or 7-figure-earning woman gives a flying fuck about you and you finally started to do something with your lives. Well, obviously not (you) but the viewers and anons that aren't here right now.

>>103044130
*western corpo vtubing is dead
They just become indies and keep the same numbers from before.

I wonder how bibot is coping

>>103030348 (OP)
this wouldnt have happened if fauna were still here...

>>103043952
>We should have been on EN7 by now.
No, while Nijisanji had some benefit from rapid gen releases it torched their reputation and the same thing would happen with Hololive. Even if Cover found dozens of indie vtubers that would agree to compete with early EN gens it would make the company look evil and soulless. Would also completely demoralize HoloEN since all the remaining talents would expect management to replace them in the same way if they had any contract issues. Cover is already on the ledge with many fans becoming cynical and jaded. If they rushed out 2 or 3 new gens it would only trigger more graduations.

>>103048695
They look evil and soulless right now, making talents move to JP and letting their 3 most popular streamers leave in a span of a few months.

>>103030348 (OP)
in b4 phasefag, someothercorpofag, etc. -
they're the safe JP corpo, which makes their approved games list boring af. The last time I remember any of them trying something risky was Kronii's Pathologic stream.

>>103048912
There was that one time Bae played genital jousting. Dunno how they got perms for that one.

>>103049098
eh, that's a teehee "look at this weener I drew on my desk in 5th grade" kind of edgy. Nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure it was a fun stream, but I wouldn't call it risky or even that out there.

>>103049415
For a normal streamer, sure, but for Holo it was definitely out there.

>>103049530
For Holo, yeah I agree. They could definitely use more games like that.

>>103041091
If your point is "Only Biboo's streams in EN!" then direct you attention to Mori who 1082 hours, only 138 less than Biboo and that's with context she's busy with shit like concerts and song recording (or Kiara or at 822 or Bae or 687)

>>103048912 (me)
huh. ask and thou shalt receive, I guess. Still not crazy out there for them, but at least it's nkt the usual AAA slop.
https://www.youtube.com/live/-k2v7ODJIck

>>103050653
Yeh it's not just hours i also have to like their characteristics and content.

>>103030348 (OP)
EN5 will just be another gen of lazy Americans and Nijisister fujoshis

>>103030348 (OP)
Generating endless spam won't save this goddamn company. Get lost.

>>103048231
Not very convincing when ex corpos have been rolling over the indie scene

>>103030348 (OP)
>Oh nooo BUT BUT THE EN TOURISTS TOLD ME THAT UNICORNS WEREN'T EVEN IN THE FANBASE ANYMORE??? AAAAAIIIEEEEEEE WHAT HAPPENED UNITYBROS AAAAIIIIEEEEE I TOUGHT WE WON.
Kek.

>>103053997
>Being up unicorns in a discussion about stream hours
What are you babbling about retard?

I thought Phase was 0.6%?

>>103030703
>The avg og viewers goes up when more people tune in to stream of a talent because their oshi or someone they often watch aren't streaming
>The hours go down when many talents stop streaming (see # of distribution slots went down which means no streams)
There.