Thread 103112580

>>103112580 (OP)
Fucking lovely.
What a shitshow. Goddamn, Gunrun.

>>103112580 (OP)
>stole from everyone

Henya pocketed it
whore

Should've stayed with VOMS you dumb bitch.

>>103112580 (OP)
Could they not stop buying hookers and blow for FIVE SECONDS.

>>103112580 (OP)
They planned it since December

>>103112652
VOMS had ugly character designs she wanted to change but the fucktard didn't allow it cuz "muh brand"

>>103112580 (OP)
>signing off with "the genius" after a letter talking about the fuck-ups of the company you decided to join
comedy

>>103112580 (OP)
maybe the vshojo talents can set up a charity so all these rich vtubers who throw thousands of dollars around can compensate their hardworking blue collar fans who made them rich

>>103112710
>VOMS had ugly character designs
dreadfully shit taste if you think henya is a better design

>>103112710
>VOMS had ugly character designs
That's part of the charm. Tomoshika and Miuneru are cute.

>>103112710
Well now her character is dressed in a bunny prostitute costume half the time and her company has given her the image of a retard and/or a thief. Much better look than Pikamee's "ugly" design.

>>103112580 (OP)
people don't want solutions, they just want to complain and feel that their problems are actual problems...

>>103112580 (OP)
>Breaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTGZ8ct5Usg Geega talked about it 4 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7nr7YQ5Y4s Then Michi reacted to Geega talking about it and said the same thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NcyJuz5qUg Then Henya talked about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSBdZJzU8i4 Then Kuro talked about it
And finally we are here with the Henya tweet. This isn't breaking news you're just slow.

>>103112580 (OP)
>stole from fans too
kek'd

>>103112710
>VOMS had ugly character designs
Sure, it was not sexually attractive for gooners, but it was far more iconic.

there is a weirdly high amount of gunrun dick suckers on /vt/ today defending a company that doesn't exist anymore....

>>103112924
They still think they will get paid...

You think they're gonna ever make another post about all of this or is that account actually just empty? This is not real, have to clarify for the retards.

>>103112877
You know vshojo didnt have a say in her current design right?

>>103112924
sunken cost fallacy, more literal than ever

>>103112908
>not sexually attractive for gooners
Pikamee's voice and design had this sort of down to earth girl next door vibe to her, she was genuinely much hotter then than Henya is

>>103112908
Pikamee/Henya is a gooner and wanted sexier design
it's understandable, she's a girl after all and isn't against someone finally finding her attractive

>>103112627
She should be made to refund everyone. With sex.

>>103113006
Are you retarded?

>>103112877
that was all her

>>103113058
the digital content she'll compensate people with is her sex tape

>>103113009
When did I say the did?

>>103112580 (OP)
is there literally ANYONE vshojo doesn't owe money to at this point? KEK

>>103112710
nah pikamee was iconic

>>103112710
t vshojo orbiter

>>103112580 (OP)
TALENT FREEDOM TO GET SCAMMED

>>103113149
when she was still pikamee she was already using alternative loli moe model more and more
sorry anon, we aren't going back

>>103112580 (OP)
Not much of a genius, innit she?

>>103113311
I thought "genius" bit was self sarcasm

>>103112902
shut the fuck up faggot, not everyone is as terminally online as you are. fucking choke yourself, you dumb motherfucker.

>>103112580 (OP)
being a holo-only continues to pay off
it's like
hololive is nintendo: fun, clean, mostly has its act together
vshojo and niji are playstation and xbox: muh freedum, raunchy adult themes, no real reason to exist anymore, shitting pants very often

>>103112580 (OP)
VSHOJO TO THE MOOOOOON!

>>103113355
bro is mad about being wrong

>>103113435
>hololive is nintendo: fun, clean
have you paid attention to what nerissa, erb, gg and the rest have been doing the past month? it's embarrassing

>>103113435
>raunchy adult themes
after holonatsu streams and recent Laplus stream I'm not so sure desu

>>103113351
I thought that was clear when she fucked up the Rubik’s cube on day 1 after claiming it would be easy because she was a genius

>>103112580 (OP)
KWAB DAYO!

>>103112710
Miu, Tomoshika and Uemine are adorable you philistine cock sucking faggot

>>103112580 (OP)
Henya deserved this for grifting her fans as Pikame. No money to her. No money to her fans.

Be done with streaming already.

>>103113435
i have made a tier list to further drive home the point
>>103113537
i don't watch nerissa, erb, or gg
please notice the tofu i uploaded earlier and you'll be aware of my good taste

>>103113713
i forgot to upload my tier list

>>103113627
that's subjective and clearly not something she agreed with

>>103113666
Can't even spell her name. Fucking tourist.

>>103113713
>tofu
What the shit are you talking about. Just because you don't watch those three doesn't make everything they've been doing magically disappear. Hololive has been on a disgusting streak lately with the most awful hornybait.

>>103112924
>Such a disappointment when Ex-VSJ+ defended Vshojo for so long, thinking they were different, but Vshojo turned out exactly like /vt/ said.

>>103113799
then she's objectively wrong, just like you are, and her liking the model or not is not the point either

>>103113038
I found Pikamee attractive.

>>103112580 (OP)
She's supposed to be a genius right? Well figure something out then!

>>103113886
Try looking for anyone in xvsj defending the corpo now you probably wont find any except for the schizo

>>103112924
it's safe to assume they're all MTD since the moron outed himself as still being /here/ in present day after the previous revelation that he's been shitting on specific talents here for years

>>103113537
You confuse me. ERB and GG both just had very fun 3D showcases, and Nerissa improvised in one.

you know you don't have to shit on the talents anymore right? the fight is over there's no point. you're only feeding gunrun's weak insecurities temporarily until the reality of his situation kicks in with real legal reprecussions.

>>103114019
>you know you don't have to shit on the talents anymore right?
wrong

>>103112710
>VOMS had ugly character designs

>>103113943
that is your problem

>>103113836
>Just because you don't watch those three doesn't make everything they've been doing magically disappear.
but it does, because they are completely out of sight and out of mind

>>103114051
That was definitely Matara's idea

>>103113981
Schizo doesn’t know what a short form is…

>>103114091
pretending to be a braindead moron isn't the own or victory you think it is

>>103112710
Vom's has fantastic designs

>>103114104
holopeak right here

>>103114124
am i wrong? my experience is not sullied by those I don't watch

>>103112710
that's not entirely true, part of it was that VOMs was entirely a Gyari side project and
>Henya was the only EN speaking person in the company and was forced to translate documents and statements
>Gyari was the only manager and was grossly understaffed to handle managing a talent as big as pikamee
>He didn't want to expand the actual management costs and staff because this was a for fun side gig to him

TLDR: they were understaffed and underserved to handle a 10k viewer streamer like pikamee and had no plans to expand so if she wanted to get any bigger or go any further she needed to leave and go with a new corpo and manger.

>>103114133
hard to make sexo merch for it though you have to admit

>>103114079
Problem?

>>103114091
Do you lack object permanence? Are you a baby? Should I play peekaboo?

Cons: None

>>103114174
at least now she's in better place right?

>>103114174
Yeah, I think separation was best for both of them. Shame about her joining Vshojo.

>>103114180
not everything needs sexo merch

>>103114184
i will post a picture of an indian and you will think of poo and wrinkle your nose
oh wait you won't because no image is attached to this post
see how it works?

>>103112580 (OP)
Yagoo really should send a gift basket to Gunrun when he goes to prison. Hololive made a lot of mistakes recently but VShojo easily wins the worst vtuber company of the year award by stealing everything that wasn't nailed to the floor.

>>103112710
>VOMS had ugly character designs
I understand why Henya joined VShojo but Pikamee had a unique charming design and the guy running VOMS was far more competent.

>>103112877
>Well now her character is dressed in a bunny prostitute costume half the time
I have seen far worse on Twitch but Henya is a design much closer to a typical western vtuber. Honestly it's for the best that Kronii found a way to stay in Hololive. The main way to gain viewers on Twitch is coombait.

>>103114213
it's not a shame. for her and michi they would have had a difficult time getting all set up as an indie on their own because they're both low level incompetent on a bunch of things. they were both stolen from and had trust damaged but as a whole they're likely better off having joined and left than never joined at all. that's the emotionally complex part, it's like that for quite a few of the talents- it was beneficial as a whole but a bunch of horrible shit still happened and both those things have to be reconciled with each other

>>103112580 (OP)
Sounds like 4chan is about to be down for 6 hours again.

>>103114213
She's keeping her IP and the manager she had at Vshojo so she at least left with something. Also she has a deal with UTA for sponsorships. Henya is very hurt, but she'll recover.

>>103114268
but I need oshi to coom over

>>103114104
That’s wild

GYARI (one person, a vocaloid musician) could send fucking potted plants through the mail. Vshojo just stole their money and ran.

>>103114318
kronii literally coombaits all the time? did you see her recent streams forward from the maid debut? she isn't afraid to show that paizuri rack front and centre, I'll not even mention the swimsuit

Should have remained in VOMS

>>103114415
Isn't Gunrun open to a class action lawsuit from this?

>>103114180
Pikamee is sexo, you're just weak

>>103114425
didn't align with her plans and it's not like she can see the future

>>103112580 (OP)
"stolen"

>>103114415
Vshojo had aggressive growth silicon valley mindset and was throwing away money for market share with the assumption they would hit a point where they could be profitable
It never happened and when vtubers as a whole took a downturn they ate shit and had to embezzle money to keep their shit going

>>103114463
that sounds like 90% of startups and how they go under

>>103114462
Yes, they pocketed the order money, the merch never got made
Arists weren't paid
Talents weren't paid
Factory wasn't paid

they just pocketed it and expected they'd use other incoming money to cover their obligations

>>103114522
Yeah, is that... legal? >>103114435 Asking again. No lawyers among you, guys?

>>103114462
True IM is faking i-
Wait wrong thread

>>103112652
>>103112790
>>103112858
>>103112908
>>103113627
>>103114072
>>103114133
>>103114318
>>103114425
Go watch VOMS and stop using them to your shitty baits. Gods know they would appreciate the viewers.

>>103114435
no one can talk confidently on this because the fact that funds earmarked for charity were misused means that this might not be a standard company bankruptcy that protects the owner's money
anybody who's talking about this publicly is going to be lacking a ton of privately known information that's crucial on if charges could be brought so it's better to just disregard it for now

>>103114104
I'd trade all of that for an 8-hour OSRS stream. Take me back.

>>103112580 (OP)
In a better timeline, she applied and got accepted into Hololive.

>>103112580 (OP)
so, they didn't just misappropriate fundraiser money. they also stole all the merch money. is this still really a mistake? sounds more like someone took the money and ran.

>>103114571
anon, just "taking" the charity money will land you in a federal prison. The correct way was to declare bankruptcy but they were to coked out to do the right thing.

>>103114584
it's kinda sad they are struggling number wise desu

>>103114571
>is that legal
It depends but for a lot of that the most they can do is sue for their money, and then the corpse of vshojo will be torn apart for parts to pay off whoever is owed money
The only thing that would have criminal punishment (potentially) is the IDF money, Gunrun misappropriated 500k in charity funds earmarked for a nonprofit charity and written off as charity donations, which is fraud punishable by up to 5 years in jail if convicted

That depends a lot on evidence and how they charge though so I'm not goign to backseat lawyer too much

>>103114595
The agoraphobe who pukes from overexertion would totally love being forced outside to do idol shit. What could possibly go wrong?

>>103114638
the bro is already hiding in Hong Kong you can't catch him

>>103114586
>>103114638
>>103114660
Yeah, but we're talking about merchandise, a product, that (you) guys paid for, and never got.

>>103114584
Yeah, who wants to watch VOMS when I can watch Vshojo inste- OH WAIT LMAO

So what digital alternative will she provide I wonder.

>>103114725
Talents still exist tho

>>103114689
yeah and the only thing that can be done is you sue for it in small claims court or chargeback your purchase.
What's going to happen now is Vshojo will go bankrupt. Anything they have will be frozen by the court and then in order of importance their creditors will come by to take whatever they want to cover the amount owed to them

Talents are near the bottom and customers are literal last stop so no one will get anything, their building's landlord and suppliers etc are all going to come first and cannibalize everything

The merch MIGHT be sold in bulk in a bankruptcy auction to someone who can sell it off, which is where the girls have a chance to get it. I think Geega was offered an invoice for what it would cost for her to buy the remaining stock of Geega merch back from vshojo. But yeah, this shit is going to be eaten up by the big dogs first, they get fed first and they aren't going to leave much behind.

>>103114571
>>103114660
No it's not, but goes under "unfullfilled orders" and in other words debts. They can just declare bankruptcy and you are put in the "reinbursement" column.
If your payment processor isn't shit, you get your money back, fuck if they get punished or you get merch.
Of course, there could be exceptions but fuck if I know all about Vshojo merch.

What a week huh?

>>103114689
I don't buy vtuber merch because this has happened so many times to indies too, not worth it unless it's a collab with a safe company like omocat or apari. again though no one knows enough to confidently talk about if charges can be brought, too much information that's currently private
>>103114725
everybody who was in vshojo still streams under the same name, that's the whole point

>>103114810
What "big dogs" is Vshojo involved with, anyway? Were investors actually promised a return?

>>103114809
>>103114866
And I still won't watch them.

>>103114882
They had a few million in startup money I remember, but there's also stuff like they signed a lease for office space they will have to break, business loans from banks, unfulfilled contracts to suppliers and talents, etc

>>103114925
two failed comebacks in a row, thumbs up buddy great job

I feel like the talents owe it to their fans to make it as right as they can with refunds or getting the merch commissioned and shipped themselves. "Lol vshojo sucks tough shit you wasted your money" isn't good enough. It's not like any of these girls are poor 2views, this isn't Pixel link or tsunderia folding. Only the 4 JP newbies really are in a situation where they can't afford to eat the loss.

if they aren't shipping merch i demand lewd asmr to make it up to me.

>>103114925
This ain’t how you do a gotcha

>>103115029
That's exaclty what they are trying to do

>>103115043
based

>>103115029
All the talents are saying that you should chargeback. If it's been less than 3-4 months most banks will do it easy. They give your money back and harass vshojo, if no one answers they write it off on taxes as losses.
Plus henya said she is prepping a digital reward for anyone who bought merch and didn't get it
Probably a thank you for your support video or something like a henya wallpaper she comissions just for supprters

>>103115029
geega is trying but she doesn't have any of the order information at all besides how much of each item there is and presumably it's like that for everybody else. if no one can get that information (names, addresses) it's going to be incredibly difficult borderline impossible

>>103112580 (OP)
the peak of an en vtuber is making an appearance at the local animecon. nothing more. as tourist as it gets

>>103113886
Yes, clearly /vt/s problem with vshojo has always been based around their poor merch practices and not 'the talents are all lying whores'

>>103112580 (OP)
I still think that Kson was in the right

>>103115776
lmao

>>103112615
And no blowback to the streamers that kept shilling merch despite knowing the company hadn't been able to cut them a paycheck for 8 months?

>>103116000
don't worry about it

>>103112580 (OP)
>Vshojo gunruning away with the merch money
>Brave launching additional donothons to fund Idol / Chromashift merch that was already funded by previous donothons
>Phase merch taking an entire year to ship to the point that people are receiving 2024 anniversary merch just in time for the 2025 anniversary
>Niji selling merch of graduated livers in their store
>Indies keep getting scammed by merch companies who take the money and run
Why is the vtuber merch situation so bad?

>>103116281
It's not as easy to organize all that shit.
Kickstarters suffer from same shit as well.

>>103114421
>kronii literally coombaits all the time
At the moment but the coombait would have continued with VShojo and they were going bankrupt. Hololive might have a lot of flaws and is burning too much money on HoloEarth but so far they are stable.

>>103114522
but Vshojo janny got paid
According to Vei he got paid real good

>>103114839
It's Monday.

>>103112716
Kek

>>103116326
Kickstarter has its own problem where it encouraged stretched goals that would cost more to develop than the actual base game and then people like Omocat (hololive clothes artist) and Time Schafer are fucking insane. She switched game engines mid production which trippled production time and he filmed a video of himself barhing with money after finishing the kickstarter. Meanwhile the people behind vtuber corpos are supposed to be actual businessmen

>>103116281
wasn't there another small corpo where the manager was the owner's underage gf and she just forgot to order merch for like 9 months after they took orders?

>>103116000
nobody expects women to understand stuff

>>103116618
The only thing dumber than expecting something from women is the man actualy expecting it

>>103116326
gunrun was a literal founder of justin tv he should know how to run a business

>>103116000
>>103116022
Look, I know boots taste better than pagpag, but they aren't actually any more nutritious.

>>103112924
You have to understand, if I have to agree with most people I can't feel special and like I have a personality. I have to be contrarian.

>>103116617
Anyone who bought Cyberlive merch got what was coming to them. Couple years ago everyone said they were the blackest EN vtuber corpo but the scene was so much worse than what anyone could have imagined

>>103116281
>>Niji selling merch of graduated livers in their store
and this is bad because..???

>>103116814
kys riku

>>103116814
it's bad because niji is doing it, if it was hololive it would be based and pro consumer

>>103116878
hololive also does this, you can buy extra Ame merch on geekjack

>>103116878
if holo is doing it, it's called affiliate program

>>103116981
Ame didn't graduate tho

>>103116814
>Go to grandmother’s funeral
>Uncle Jeffery pushes a vendor’s cart through the church aisle
>He stops in front of you
>Wanna buy some Dead Granny T-shirts, Dead Granny Mugs, and Dead Granny Button-Pins?

>>103117080
thank you for the most retarded analogy I've seen in a while

>>103116878
Speaking of which how is Hololive’s merch situation?

>>103114592
Never gonna bone again.

>kekson and henya were both in on it
somehow miguel neko wins in the end

>shitting on henya
>shitting on kuro
????
why are people hating on the talents when it's vshojo that took the money and ran away?

>>103117443
We have direct confirmation Mowtendoo came here to talk shit about former talents like Vei. Probably the case here.

>>103116814
because the talent doesn't get the money from those, as matara confirmed. it's okay to sell that shit as long as talent still gets the cut they did when they were in

>>103117443
>talents aren’t being paid for 9+ months
>they still tell fans that vshojo is the best company ever and shill vshojo merch that the fans will never get
Bruhhhhhh

>>103112580 (OP)
CONS: N O T H I N G

>>103118192
what ass backwards logic is this?

>>103118029
He shouldn't have gotten so close to a medallion.

>>103118286
You should be asking the talents themselves why they kept shilling when they knew vshoujo was scamming fans

so what did Gun do with the money besides vshojo parties at cons?

pay people to shitpost here?

>>103118369
because they have NDAs? what point are you trying to make here? the talents were gagged with an NDA so they couldn't badmouth the company they were a part of so..... that somehow excuses you stealing half a million dollars from charity and scamming all the fans who pre-ordered merch?

>>103118286
They went around telling people that vshojo was awesome and amazing while vshojo refused to pay them. Fans lost money on merch that was never produced. They roped in other vtubers into vshojo while they knew vshojo wasn’t paying them. Mint ruined at least 3 lives because she made 3 indies focus their efforts on a debut that was never going to happen. The vshojo streamers are guilty of lying to the public.

>>103117441
How the fuck does michael cat of all people end up being the good guy in all of this? What is this timeline.

>>103118440
Stop thinking. IM is to blame for all of this.

>>103118440
There’s no nda in the entire world that made kson go on a grand tour of telling everyone how much hololive and other corpos suck and how much vshojo is so great. She did that by herself and she continued to do that while behind the scenes they didn’t even pay her. Kson did it for free.

>>103118436
something tells me gambling was involved

>>103118480
the talent vshojo glazing that's been linked was before people stopped being paid
the applications were before people stopped being paid

>>103118596
Yeah her pride was tied up with the success of vshojo. She would have said anything if it made it look like her leaving holo was the right choice.

>>103117139
It hurts because it's true

>>103114882
Investors are always promised a return, otherwise they wouldn't invest.
Per that announcement tweet, VShojo had raised $11M from investors.
That $11M must be paid back to the fullest extent possible before anyone else sees even one penny.
Given that VShojo is apparently at 0 right now, only investors are getting money out of this, and even they won't be made whole.

>>103118742
At the time, leaving was the right choice. They made her persona non grata to an entire nation, and not even catapulting all of HoloCN could make up for that.

>>103118852
Leaving a job where she was a consistent 5 view for a scam corpo that didn't pay her was the right choice?

>>103118436
Ponzi scheme. He thought he could pay off his debt by suckering in more investors, and pay them off by finding more investors, and so on. For any non-Americans, look up Bernie Madoff.

holy shit MTD you realize that it doesn't matter how much you shit up /vt/ you're still going to jail

>>103119001
>paid her in full for years prior to not paying her

>>103119001
Lotta good muh noombers will do when 1.1 billion people hate you because of a flag on a stream, while holo did nothing at best, and actively punished her by giving mod powers to her antis at worst.

>>103119001
Leaving was the right choice. Her Chinese antis were spreading to other talents.

>>103118182
>because the talent doesn't get the money from those, as matara confirmed
bro you're retarded

>>103119028
should've stuck to making youtube poops. how the mighty has fallen..

>>103119333
its true

>>103113006
You need to have /sp/ and /nhl/ context to understand it, so it's not that weird that a lot of people didn't get it.
Tampa at least fixed their shit, can't say the same about this shitfest

>>103119028
Probably just on drug charges

>>103112580 (OP)
And they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming

>>103112580 (OP)
Who would have thought a contract without any "ties" was a good idea.

>>103118819
>they blew all that cash on paying shitposters, adverts and parties
>there are unironically "people" with 11 million in their pockets to give to an e-hobo org and have the audacity to expect to see it back
Damn. More dead CEOs, please.

>>103112580 (OP)
**Henya the scammer

>>103112580 (OP)
Sounds like a lawsuit dayo! Better scrounge up some some legal fees dayo!

>>103112580 (OP)
So this is why vishocucks been deflecting with ERB bait threads

>>103120072
Your boogeyman is dead. People can criticize your incognito whores freely.

>>103115113
Hopefully its a JOI video

>>103120504
>don't cum yet dayo
I'd flood villages with jizz

>>103113836
Let it go soldier , Gunrun won't pay for your shitposting no more

>>103116281
Its hilarious as to how much shit is flung at hololive and the worst their merch situation has gotten is shit that either they have 0 influence over or they haven't hired enough workers to move the merch out of their warehouse fast enough

>>103117443
Vt is like a funny place where if they don’t get fully what they want, they melt.
No (now former) VShojofag is gonna stick with the company, everyone was quick to stick to their talent, but that ain’t what those who hated them wanted, they wanted the talents involved to also be shit on, but that’s just not how it works out lol
It’s quite funny how they hear something and protect the dead corpo

>>103114725
Kek

>>103120702
I can hate both vshojo whores and hololive whores.

>>103118596
>>103118742
time stamp?

>>103121824
BASED PHASEGOD

>>103112580 (OP)
It feels sooooooo good to be a holochad.

>>103120055
A lawsuit for what money? It's already gone, you'd spend more in legal fees fighting it then you'd get in a judgement.

>>103112580 (OP)
So, how much was Mousey's cut?

>>103112580 (OP)
I genuinely wonder why mouse didn't realise that there were red flags when nyan was fucked over years ago. Like I understand wanting to continue to work with vshojo but continuing to trust them all the financials? Jesas.

why did they wait until the corpo died before talking about all the evil things it's been doing for years?
almost like they would keep ignoring it if they were still getting paid

>>103123701
She was benefiting from it. The moment she was no longer, she threw them under the bus.

Which to be frank they still deserve to be ground under.

>>103123701
Probably cause she was in on it? She's a top tier grifter.

>>103112710
>but the fucktard didn't allow it cuz "muh brand"
why are you lying? this woman just sucks at handling her own design. she's also known as a peds, which is why her new model outside gyari looks like this.

>>103123695
she is still streaming and making money so there is still blood in the stone

>>103123701
Probably some shit happened between the two. They were close and suddenly they weren't anymore.

Mel won.

>>103124428
>Probably some shit happened between the two.
Yes, nyan figured out mouse was in on in the whole vshojo scam.

>>103112580 (OP)
>I wasn't paid
dyrbi?

>>103112580 (OP)
What's the next big VShitshow attack to come after the merch? I bet you that people got roofied at their talent orgies that were happening at cons. Someone will speak out.

So why aren't they suing gunrun or mowtendoo?
Fishy as fuck they are definitely involved

>>103124315
GYARI refused to delegate or commission various things when it came to VOMS. A 3D model would only happen if GYARI did it himself. Just because she got that lolimee model doesn't excuse the other issues.
The problem is that Pikamee did outgrow VOMS (who even watches their new talent btw), but sadly we now know that she had fallen for VShojo's poaching tactics too. She deserves a better looking model though.

>>103124549
It'll turn out the whole operation was a cover for a drug smuggling ring and the talents were all drug mules.

>>103124428
>They were close and suddenly they weren't
I mean, it makes sense when you realise it was strictly professional

>>103124628
They're all in on it. Even vtuber jesus Kson.

>>103124791
>GYARI refused to delegate or commission various things when it came to VOMS
And that's a good thing, look at Henya now.

>>103125240
I would argue that VShojo had influenced her with design choices, gotta look like a slut and all that to fit in. They went with the company designer too rather than a more traditional Jap artist too.

>>103124628
I will assume everyone getting doxxed to hell and back in the courts would be one reason. Might as well put Gunrun in front of Judge Judy.

>>103125407
You would, of course, be making a retarded argument, considering her design is 100% up her alley.

>>103125481
>everyone getting doxxed
Come on dude, their identity is public toilet tier in America.

>>103125481
>Kson
>getting doxxed
>ironmouse
>getting doxxed
>veibai
>getting doxxed
>nyanpasu
>getting doxxed
>silverwhale
>getting doxxed
KEK are you joking?

>>103124628
Mouse and Henya both mentioned lawyers. They absolutely are.

>>103125710
I mentioned my mom too.

>>103112580 (OP)
What is this Henya oshi mark? A tulip? It looks like a fire flower from Mario Bros.

>>103112710
They hated him because he told the truth

>>103125883
Yes, a tulip. In Japan they're commonly used for nametags worn by kids

>>103121168
Sounds female doesn't it?

>>103112710
VOMS is the only reason anyone knows about this dumb bitch, her numbers tanked when she switched to her shit replacement models and only rebounded after the harry potter tranny episode which was manufactured to get her to join the tranny company

>>103126017
I have seen them in my animes, yes.

>>103118192
>talents aren’t being paid for 9+ months
they got paid quarterly for merch and sponsor, so it was easy to lose track of what they should have been getting, especially with all the income they make. due to vshojo's prior good reputation and history, those who did realize assumed the late payment was an exception and they were going to eventually receive their due. the talents weren't communicating their financials with each other due to work culture and didn't realize until recently that the issue with payments was happening to almost everyone.
>shill vshojo merch that the fans will never get
merch orders were being fulfilled prior to the charity reveal. none of the talents expected something like this happening with the company.

>>103124315
>that model
WHY DID YOU REMIND ME OF THAT MONSTROSITY

>>103127526
It genuinely was one of the things that finally made me understand where people are coming from with "soul/soulless" comparisons.

>>103129308
>>103127526
I liked it it was well animated too

>>103112652
She was too big for VOMS.
VOMS is literally just a portfolio project of a single faggot artist, they were not supposed to grow as big as they did. Kettle was overqualified for that job.

>>103129484
This
All of them have other jobs (besides NEET TMSK) and just do this for fun and a little extra money. Pika wanted a full career and that wasn't gonna happen at VOMS. In retrospect she should have just gone indie from the get-go. But she has support from UTA and hired her old personal manager, she'll be fine.

henya should bounce on my dick crazy style dayo

>>103112654
Probably donated all the money to Hasan

>>103129308
For me it was girl_dm

>gyari
>faggot
kys

Henya is goated and the only people who anti her are white women and trannies who spend their entire day raping dogs and posting on twitter.

>>103125096
>nyanners
>professional
There's a laugh. Who started the clown show with Nux, btw?

>>103112710
>but the fucktard didn't allow it cuz "muh brand"
You must be delusional to think Henya's model is better than Pikamee's.
Also
>Gyari takes 0% cut from VOMs
>Henya leaves, so she can get 0% cut from her own work at Vshojo
Truly a genius.

>>103120713
I knew a holodrone couldn't resist trying to take a victory lap. Hololive merch has been shit too. I bought something and it took them 10 months, the "shipping" cost was retarded and even though I wasn't expecting much, I was unpleasantly surprised at just how bad the shitty Chinese dollar store quality of the item was. Don't buy any vtuber merch unless you just want to support the oshi/company.

>>103117080
>>Go to gura’s funeral
>>Uncle Yagoo pushes a vendor’s cart through the church aisle
>>He stops in front of you
>>Wanna buy some Gura T-shirts, Dead shark Mugs, and Dead shark Button-Pins?

>>103130593
I'm talking from Mouses perspective here anon..

Zen is a man confirmed.

literally just chargeback? problem solved

>>103112710
Gayest fucking post I've ever seen on /vt/

>>103112690
I stopped buying from them because the merch would take 8 months. I remember once Henya was trying to sell merch when her old shit still hadn't shipped. If you got duped by them and it wasn't your first time buying from them then it's your fault

>>103124549
Someone said that a vshojo party, someone stole their big ass cosplay tail when they put it down to use the restroom.

The fuck would you even do with one of those?

>>103112580 (OP)
>*blindly trusts her employer*
>the Genius
????

>>103130593
The staff started that by lying to both of them. Once you understand this that drama makes 10x more sense. Including Melody being in the calls with Nux (but insisting she was AFK) since she's more involved in the business than she admits

>>103124549
this is a common rrat
people are saying it's a yet to be unrevealed drama relating to Mowtendoo He was already accused of pressuring people to do coke with him and being very insistent that people take drinks from him

>>103124428
Mouse They couldn't talk to each other because of NDAs. Nyan has acknowledged this herself, and the've been talking for the past week.

>>103112716
hehe

>>103131691
>He was already accused of pressuring people to do coke with him
aniki's death has fucked him badly.

>>103112732
>expecting women to actually care about the victims and vulnerable beyond virtue signaling

>>103127240
kys shill

looking at the posts here it seems people genuinely only liked pikamee with gyari cartoon model and now anti her because she wanted to look another way and join a corpo of her friend
wild

>>103121168
I mean Mel and Kson are taking flak, that's a start.
I'll continue to shit on everyone but you can keep crying about it. It's always been obvious you stick with your whore to the end. That's why making gunrun a scapegoat is the most convenient choice for you lot. Especially the IM simps.

Is Melody still in hiding?

>>103135050
Yeah, in Israel.

For legal reasons this is a joke. Haha.

>>103135042
mizutrani melty

>>103112652
fpbp

>>103135201
Literally who

>>103114809
no one who was ever in vshojo had any talent thoughbeit

>>103114421
kill yourself outfitschizo

>>103114595
>and got accepted
LMAO
good one anon

>>103113311
her plan was to destroy vshojo from within.
she's a genius, day0

>>103118569
melody, actually

>>103130750
in addition, kson also said the reason she wasn't concerned about VShojo merch payouts being late was she was used to it taking a year for merch payouts from her PL, she figured it was just how the industry worked

>>103113537
Yea and Nintendo has had 2 Bayonetta games exclusively on it’s platform. Doesn’t mean that’s what they’re known for.

>>103118182
>because the talent doesn't get the money from those, as matara confirmed
Because it was the last batch of merch of her. The shit matara saw in that store was left sitting on the shelf unsold long after she graduated.

Shouldnt have left voms.

>>103113477
literally who

>>103112652
This
You will find no pity from me to greedy bitches like her

>>103112580 (OP)
Damn if she sends me a personal recording instead of the merch I'll consider that an upgrade

>>103137256
she didn't leave VOMS because of greed retard
her vision for the channel was just incompatible with VOMS

>>103112580 (OP)
These fucking bastards! ANOTHER 2 BILLION TO IRONMOUSE

so gunrun and mtd teamed up again after over a year apart to jointly shitpost on /vt/ for.... some reason. i hope it goes well and that you can think fondly of your memories shitting up this place one last time before you serve jail time for fraud

>>103112580 (OP)
Henya herself is a bit sad but Henyatards are psychotic haters, they totally deserve this.
Get fucked! ahahaha

>>103137801
Why do vshojotards think that the shills worked this board because of their love for gunrun?
It's pretty convenient having a scapegoat so that you can blend into the rest of the board that had to deal with your shit.
We all know you're simp warriors that did it for your personal favorite vwhore, probably 80% of you were knights of the ironlung.

>>103137801
All of /vt/ hates you retards that have been polishing gunruns cock for years and attacking anyone that dared to call you out. You reap what you sow and you can fuck off back to /trash/ where you belong

>>103137413
Where's the money froot ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHs4afIxK0s

>>103137903
>>103138096
kill yourself MTD

>>103137903
mtd was caught /here/ red handed last week
>>102889819
>>102889912

>>103114584
Sadly I am mostly EOP. I watched Pikame, Monoe and a little Miu but not as much these days.

>>103138269
>gunrun's loyal footsolider trying to convince everyone he's one of the boys dayo, YOU're the one defending the dead company
lol come on. You guys were the most vitriolic hololive haters of them all. This is pathetic.

>>103138416
That never happened. Just ignore vshojofags that have been spamming that 1 holosummer webm for 2 years whenever their black corpo gets called out

>>103112710
Wut?
Henya's design isn't exactly that pretty.

>>103131691
>being very insistent that people take drinks from him
without a doubt he put something in those, how many talent and orbiters did he fuck?

>>103114638
>just "taking" the charity money will land you in a federal prison.
Depends, if you're a pedo like trump, if you steal from a children's charity, the courts will just give you a finger wagging.
But I doubt Gunrun is that high up to get that level of protection.

>>103112580 (OP)
The genius btw

Isn't gunrun rich? Is he not trying to salvage anything?

And Mouse pocketed half of the donation money twice, making like 500,000$. People dont care.

>>103141588
I thought he was on the run from the Yakuza

>>103141868
Y'all are acting like VShojo is deadbeat broke. No one has actually confirmed it, and Gunrun can easily pull (allegedly) stolen funds out of his wallet to sue anyone.

She got scammed!
She got scammed!
I got scammed!
Are there any other scamees I should know about!?

>>103112710
I disagree, it very cute(rip monoe)

>>103141909
Hahahahaha!!!! Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
Bro no he can't because the Bankruptcy court will demand he pay back the people he owes fucking money. The second a dime falls out of Vshojo or Gunrun's pocket lawyers will be crawling out of the floorboards to claim it.
The investors can sue him and Vshojo for poor stewardship. Artists are owed money. Fans are owed money and there is a potential class action suit seeking to regain stolen money.

Those fuckers aren't going anywhere near a court house to do shit it will look like the NWO showing up to beat down some jabroonies ass.

>>103124315
>>>/r/eddit

>lawyers showing up to squash Gunrun the second he walks in a court house
https://youtube.com/shorts/4XUqXi-F5kQ?si=Jabrb7WnuZwgh-Fq

>>103142163
don't make me pull up the "age 9 is best" tweet
she's a known pedophile
full stop

>>103143757
And she's correct, you transvestite plebbitor.
If it were legal, I'd torture the fuck out of you. A hanging is too lenient for you abominations.

>>103143915
>this much edge
you must be at least 18 years old to post here.

>>103144047
Yeah, edge. If it helps you sleep at night.
Genocide has literally never happened in history before, right?

>>103115776
About what?

>>103112580 (OP)
what did Hololive do this time