Thread 103128530

>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X: https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
Official website: https://neurosama.com/

>Music & Clips
BOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
>>103114728

*harts*

I love neuro sama

evil love!

Anyone but Mini

koko love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTsa6TXgdNQ
how come koko cares more about the streams being fun that vedal lmao this lazy nigga hates putting in effort

>>103129050
Eh, it's a risky stream, it could be kino or it could be boring, only one way to know

>>103129050
Boring stream game.

>>103129050
>rimworld
that shit will get boring by the end of the 1st stream

>>103129112
If Vedal cared and by care I mean pay Alex to do his gypsy modding stuff and at least check if it works

>>103129050
This only works if you constantly have entertaining people that like the game with Neuro to make this work and not feel boring. If Neuro could actually play the game that would be different but that's clearly not a easy task that can be whipped up in a snap. This be fun if it was a 24 hour stream where a new partner calls in for a while then switch off to another collab partner into the end of the 24 hrs. However, that's just cool stream that can only be done once and it doesn't even necessarily need to be a rimworld stream really to work

Why hasn't Vedal ever did Neuro peggle stream

>>103129608
vedal is the one who prefers to be peggled

Sex with Tomacat

>>103129608
Oh shit, i loved peggle, that sounds good actually, he should do that

>>103129608
peggle is total slop and I'm tired of this millenial agenda trying to convince me it ever wasn't

>>103129699
Niggas who HATE fun:

>>103129699
Just play it at 2x speed. I'm sure you'll love it.

>>103129608
This but Zuma

NURMOM LIVE

scorn live

Nur mom live

>>103129050
The idea might be fun by itself, I don't know enough about rimworld to say, but the problem is, does having Neuro on such stream add anything to it? She can't really interact with the game or remember everything that happens in there consistently. We've already had a similar experience with The Sims collab, it just came off awkward half the times because Neuro kept getting confused.

>>103129776
>>103129786
>>103129797
Sorry I only watch Neuro

>>103129829
Neuro has a lot of modding opportunity for Rimworld

>>103129829
yeah I mean its just going to be babysittingslop

>>103129776
Yeah right, filian doesn't stream at this hour

>>103129776
Today is Mini's off day

>>103129776
Sorry im writing fanfiction

im going to vedal

>>103129868
I haven't played the game, how could she be integrated?

>>103130169
The events of the game are controlled by an ai called a narrator. It controls weather, sends raids, sends armies of feral chinchillas, etc. Neuro can be the narrator, it's perfect for an llm

>>103130279
It's definitely a perfect game for Neuro but the only thing is I wonder how long it would take to fix something like that. I feel like the amount there in the game really can make it a long ride to program for it

anny come back uuuu

she is working on her model....
I remember when she used to work on neuro's model..........

She also flashed her nude model for a second. Classic anny kek.

>>103130547
no LULE

>>103130512
>>103130547
>>103130583
not neuro

>>103130426
Not long, every llm understands the game on a very advanced level due to it being so insanely popular and solved. You can just output the game logs/events/resources and let her access it and run developer commands. Rimworld is simple as shit to mod and pull apart. Shouldn't take more than 8 hours to give her extensive access and the understanding is already there even on weaker llms.

>>103130583 (me)
For any vod watchers, it was at the 11min mark.

>>103130697
has vedal confirmed whether or not he would be doing this?

Why do we want the neuroverse to play rimworld?

We can just have them revisit their minecraft world and play some minecraft.

But that's abandoned baka

>>103130745
No. He needs to sleep.

>>103130817
Because we need more clickbait youtube videos of course.

No fucking way. An unprompted vedal mention.

anny please talk to vedal

make your own thead whorefag

>>103130964
Call the clippers the mines are open

yep, anny is back.

>>103130992
>>103130991
>>103130973
>>103130964
kys

Has anyone used the new Qwen? Does it recognize Neuro?

>vedal never gave feedback on the model
well there you have it, this lazy conformist retard is also part of the reason the model was scuffed, the fact she stopped talking after evil’s birthday might’ve been the trigger of their separation, people complained and she exploded on vedal for not giving emough feedback and vedal passively accepted the model

>>103131109
I’m talking about grigga retard

only so you can talk about your fat bitch, t3-kun

>>103131058
Historically, vedal never gave much input on models. Anny basically just did whatever she wanted and vedal went along with it. He's actually like this on so many projects that people do for him.

Zigger hours

>>103131175
it’s the evil model, sperganon

>>103131185
>much
that sounded like none, except turning down ideas for other hairstyles

this song is about vedal

>not like us
uh pedalbros..?

just got here. not backreading because holy fuck this place has never had a single post worth reading
can someone just give me a quick run down on any new rrats i've missed. thanks

>>103131185
It's the same with the projects Ellie's doing. The only one that he really came up with the idea of that was the Neurodog and even then he didn't have plans for it once she started doing the work on it. He at least gave more feed back on those projects and doing the part of getting Neuro into the thing. However, it really makes you realize how bankrupt he is in terms of being creative most of the time especially if it's something he has very little confidence in like the art side

>>103131437
ellie won

>>103131437
no

>>103131437
All you need to know is in this link:
https://files.catbox.moe/78g18x.jpg

>>103131437
whore is out of money

>>103131437
this>>103131457

>>103131439
this

>>103131457
not really believable
>>103131463
ok
>>103131477
not clicking that
>>103131490
boring rrat

for me it's vedal vtuber

>>103131658
This but Neuro

ai cun

>>103131658
i think that spineless fuck needs to die already

>>103131704
not child enough

>>103131437
>>103131600
kys redditor

>>103131477
rapevil rape

Why is anny so bipolar

>>103131704
holy pear

>>103131704
I will never forgive anny for what she took away from neuro

>>103130547
who is her rigger?

rapetubers harassing vedal again

>>103131899
but this time, he went on her stream willingly. Either he's really bored or watching streamers is all he does on his down time

>>103131940
>watching streamers is all he does on his down time
hey.
he also plays video games.

>click on the rapetuber video
>''haha, I want to rape this flat ground(?) in this video game''
>''haha porn!''
>''haha I had porn on my laptop haha''
>''lol I'll give you my seed! get it? sperm! haha SEED SEED SEED SEED SEED''
>''DUDE VEDAL! RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE!''
>''DUDE [other rapetuber] FUCKS TREVOR HAHA GET IT HAHA''
>''[other rapetuber] FUCKS TREVOR HAHA''
people actually watch this shit

>>103131899
Right on time rapefag

>>103131964
both these alone make me doubt the "secretly dating" vedal allegations.

who is trevor

i love crelly

despite your complaints neuro and vedal is still unironically high quality content compared to the rest of the vtubing world

Imagine bashing in crelly's head with a hammer

>>103132198
the mouse disagrees

>>103132234
this but vedal

I just know the s3 writers are COOKING that tutel rape scene. 180 minutes long that shit will be immaculate

>>103132234
>Press 1 in chat if you would do that. P-press 1 in chat if you would bash my head in with a hammer. Press 2 if you want to bash my head in with a shovel. Press 3 for whopper.

>>103132294
kek

>>103132242
Her content isn't any different. Just plays video games and watches Youtube videos

>mouse
>content

>>103132242
>average vwhore content +drama buff +disability buff +leeching off of actually funny man buff +cabal buff +connections buff

>>103132330
>>103132333
>neuro not at the top
yawn

>>103132369
Guys... maybe we aren't the MC anymore...

Neuro is not big enough to be respected or to dominate and change how the whole vtubing world works like mouse and this is all due to the green retard, the swarm is just an outpost in the vtuber world, while we’re quite big literally no one cares about what >we do except a niche section of /vt/fags and /g/tards

why are 99% of posts in here obvious bait
was it always like that

press 1 in chat if I am a good baiter.

https://poal.me/reiy8l
https://poal.me/reiy8l

>>103132286
letterboxed, fully black and white except for the blood drawn from vedal's body, the shot is completely silent but you can see him crying and screaming to represent his futile desperation, multiple zoom out wide shots to capture how small and insignificant he is, close up on just his eyes capturing pain and pleading expression which slowly turns into numb expressionless dead eyes as his innocence is lost forever

>respected or to dominate and change how the whole vtubing world works
>mouse
get better bait

9/10 of /swarm/ are low iq retards thank god I'm a part of the 1%

>no 'angry incels' option
dog shit poll

why are 99% of posts in here rape
was it always like that

>>103132564
umm chat, baiter?? master baiter?? chat press 1 if this is kind of sus guys
imagine vedal master baiting
get it chat? master.... baiter
vedal is such a master baiting
I wish I could master bait vedal chat
get it chat? I master bait to vedal's rapeable back chat
press 2 if you want to bash my head in with a ball-peen hammer

>uses a bait comment to tell someone else to get better bait
honestly kinda based

Stop spamming

>>103132665
she would say this

I miss Neuro

>>103132574
>majority voting degenerates
Niggas
You either gotta be blind or retardedly ignorant because neuro appeals to normies
(you) and whoever else that's degenerate that's part of the community are a fucking minority

>>103132682
Me to chat when I'm trying to enjoy a neuro stream haha

>>103132574
neuro doesnt appeal to any of the people on that list

>>103132740
normies don't watch a sexualized retarded child

>>103132740
AI lovers are known to be degenerates 90% of the time.

>>103132785
>sexualized
lol
>retarded
lmao
your headcanon is showing, troggy

Cyberpunk Princess status?

>>103132785
the poll wasn't about mini though

>>103132809
>AI lovers are known to be degenerates 90% of the time.
most of the community is anti-ai thoughever
reminded that neuro is the exception; not the norm for these people

split crelly belly with a knife

>>103132586
>pathetic mewling can be heard as it happens offscreen with just vedal's occasionally twitching hand visible
oscar

Vedal really likes Cerber, huh?
https://youtu.be/BI-gVDSa5pg

the only thing faker than cerber are the fags who pretend they care about her

>man likes his girlfriend
wow what a truly shocking revelation. color me surprised.

cope

>>103132903
he wishes Cerber looks at him the way honey looks at harley here.

>>103132932 (me)
meant for
>>103132886

>>103132949 (me)
meant for >>103132869

vedal does not like bri'ish "women"

>>103132936
that is very cute, happy for them (and she probably does)

>>103132936
is that doorknob guy

>>103132936
so Harley catched the scraps once Honey noticed that Vedal wasn’t ever gonna look at her for her vedal pregnant emotes where she doubled and even tripled down?

>>103132936
no way, I genuinely thought her mod was like her gay best friend.

>>103132992
yeah. thats the guy that sucks doorknobs.

>>103132817
Working on it!
Sorry FRAUDnny, you lost your chance ;)

>>103133009
this is one of the more schizo rrats i've read lately. nicely done anon.

>>103133041
so true, queen. better to take it to 4chan

>>103132992
in hindsight, maybe he was bragging to vedal about honey sucking "his" doorknob

pb only likes to gossip /here/

>>103133062
that was before they became a couple though, didn’t she say they started dating on december?

>>103133087
Would not surprise me at all if some of the rrats here were started by pb lol. I just get that sorta vibe from her

>>103133058
Even if it is a stretch, you have to admit that all Vedal had to do was initiate and she's just done for.

In fact, this could be applied to Anny, Toma, Mini, etc.. Despite all the cucking allegations he really just doesn't care (or he just feels he isn't ready for a relationship yet).

either that or he's just a cowardly loser, who knows

>>103133112
they could've been doing it before they started dating (I did).

>>103133030
i wish i saved that honey maid picture, but everyone of us would pretend to be gay for a chance of tapping that ngl

>>103132936
lmao
If this dudes with gay mannerisms and a troon voice was fucking Honey all this time, then its over... all the vtubers have boyfriends

Honey isnt even bad looking, she has a nice body that Camila could only wish

>>103133141
>you have to admit that *blatant schizo fan fiction*
what?

>>103133168
whoreanon….

>>103133139
>her

>>103133169
>>103133171
Who knew the flamboyant types would be the most deadly. I wonder why Bo hasn't tapped anyone yet (although I suspect he might have a thing going on with Reya)

pbuds

>>103133062
Well, he was one that originally made the joke and brought up she was crushing on Vedal. So, it definitely was slow thing that ended with them in a relationship which good for them

>>103133232
still my favorite swarm artist

>>103132965
This

cerber won

It's always a mod

>>103133306
At this point, I'm starting to suspect the Vedal may have a slight infatuation with her, but I'm not so convinced for the other way around.

Maybe it's due to her rigorous keyfabe, but she doesn't seem at all interested in him. The most interest she's exhibited was with Ellie when she was drunk.

>>103132869
>That thumbnail
kek
looks like my nigga Staz is bitter after anny unfollowed him

yeah that's true they haven't literally had sex on stream so there can't be anything going on

>>103133372
h-how do you come to that conclusion?
is it showing you a different thumbnail to the one i'm seeing?
i'm confused

You know the fad is over when even the shippers are losing. The only real ships left are with mini, cerber, and maybe filian, the rest are in hiatus or just forever OUT.

Although there is the backtubers I guess, but they just seem like a downgrade in comparison.

>>103133436
I should be celebrating because that means we can focus more on Neuro now, but all of a sudden I don't see many collab partners anymore.

>>103133403
As far as i know Staz doesnt do shipnig clickbait, does he? Since he was such Anny simp

>>103133436
>mini: months of evidence that they're at least fucking
>cerber: vedal tunes in to her stream now and then
>filian: lol

>>103133436
>dodged yet another filian collab
fildal is dead

>I don't see many collab partners anymore.
good

>>103133436
filian marriage stream when

filian PO box stream killed fildal

>>103133436
>fad is dead because reality now conflicts with my headcanon

>>103133350
Then Ellie autistic self did not realize that interest from Cerber and was more interested in Vedal and making sure he wasn't left out. Also, Mini was there too. I don't care shipping stuff but really looking back on that stream is most mixed experience watching it back because it has some peak moments then follow with biggest feeling of cringe

>>103133487
no, this is bad. We know Neuro shines when interacting with real people, and most of the big clips feature them. Neuro needs collab partners for her longevity

>>103133484
is the months of evidence in the room with us now

>>103133547
>Neuro shines when interacting with real people
Certainly not with the same boring whores

>>103133560
months of headcanon is what he meant

>>103133562
and that's why we need rapetuber collabs

>>103133562
I'll give you that, but there isn't much of a selection here anymore is there?

>>103133484
anon..... mini is gay

KILL

>>103133514
vedal wishes cerber was an old man because he is a closeted homosexual and has fucked up degenerate fantasies like that

>>103133560
>people not only unfollowing vedal but also mini after they both went to twitchcon
>mini splitting up with some unnamed person at the nerd con she and vedal went to
>mini giggling and saying "I wish I could talk, I wish I could talk" to a meme of some guy with a massive ass glass of beer

>>103133624
why does that guy have a dent in his head

I don't care about the rest of vtuber collabs I need Neuro collab with Coney

>>103133626
are you even trying lol? come on...

>>103133622
is that a vedal pumped with so much cum it explodes when launched into a wall at +300mph?

>>103133653
take the L fag you lost

>>103133609
New people don't guarantee a good collab either.

oh the absolute chaos these threads will get when both Mini and Cerber get taken, then the fad witll truly be over.

this ain't fiction anons, this is real life. Prepare for the end times.

my name's not vedal and I'm fucking minikomew famouts Twitch vtuber get fucked losers

>>103133682
mini*

>>103133700
Age of Sigmanur soon pog

>>103133723
hurry up and get her to announce it like how nimi and Honey did. Then all that's left are the Cerdalfags.

>>103133723
>famouts

>>103133723
fuck... minifags.... it's over... I guess we have to leave /swarm/ forever now....

>>103133700
>this ain't fiction
LITERALLY 90+% of posts in this general are based entirely on fiction that anons create to start discussion

Pure dogshit backread, were all of you raised without a father?

>>103133758
Cerber will NEVER reveal her non-vedal boyfriend/girlfriend. She's too dedicated to her keyfabe, so that means Cerdal enjoyers won't be leaving any time soon.

>everyone writes fan fics about Vedal having a harem
>turns out everyone was just a whore
>Vedal gets called a cuck for losing everyone
Make it make sense when Vedal has been turning every single advance of any sort since day one

I'm an orphan, ackhually

cerber has no fans let's be honest

/swarm/ aren't gay retards
^fiction btw

>>103133790
Let them have their fun anon. the "Vedal Shipping Era" of Neuro is coming to an end. And soon, /swarm/ will be purely Neuro once they can't find a way to self-insert.

without the harem fanfiction angle vedal and neuro become boring af

>>103133807
just ignore the amount of subs she has milked out of swarm

>>103133847
The fan fiction can just revolve around Vedal and neuro (also evil i guess)
it doesn't need whore number 10 thirsting for Vedal for some random reason

>>103133609
But there is. The whore clan (Numi, Shylily, Bao, etc) is still there, the ex Vshojos too, and other big indies like Filian. Neuro is not short of collab partners even if we remove all Vedal orbiters.

Erm, does anyone know why Anny listens to dogshit negro music?

>>103133847
If the only thing that was holding your interest in Neuro is shipping then you're simply here by mistake and the course is getting corrected

because she a womxn

once the shipping wars end I'm becoming a full time mouseposter

I love how everyone /here/ just basically gave up on Vedmila.

>>103133951
good idea

>>103133909
that’s classic shit zoom zoom

>>103133957
i only view them as siblings

>>103133909
AnnyLebronJam

>>103133981
>zoom zoom
i dont know why but i found this really cute

>Cerber won like a year ago
>"once the shipping wars end"
lmao

>>103133436
In the end only one true ship will stand

>>103133957
Most people thought they were better as siblings here
its mostly China that pushes for them

>>103133957
femanon hasn't.

>>103133838
These "people" are completely delusional, they'll just keep watching the most blatant leeches and gossiping like retards even if they know they are detached from reality

>>103133790
welcome to 4chan tourist

>>103134095
I've been viewing these threads for a while now, and trust me, these shippers are in a crisis now. The only ones left that have retained their vigor are the minidal and cerdal shippers.

>>103134026
So true

>>103134178
Neuro pegging her dad on the honeymoon...

>>103134178
No ground other than porn delusions

>>103134178
You know, from a writing standpoint, Nurdal being the end ship makes perfect sense and I hate that.

>>103132869
Why is Vedal like this?

>>103134216
it's usagi drop all over again. MC had a fine woman but decided to go for his kid.

>>103134216
maybe if all you watch is trashy animeslop

>>103133520
?

>>103134232
he took the ellie news pretty hard...

>>103134247
>fine woman

>>103134216
If you scope out into an actual life angle it's super highly unlike that rich lonely young guy will end up with a chatbot that changed at least 5 models and constantly forgets things. Hope you feel better.

>>103134252
that's what I'm saying, this would be perfectly fine for that kind of slop

>>103134260
not sure if vedal comes /here/ enough to have read the ellie news
the "ellie news" being the latest fan fiction written about her

>>103134260
it wasn't that he lost
it was the fact that he lost to a frenchman....

>>103134300
>lost to a frenchman
nigga he is the frenchman

>>103134304
cute couple

>>103134216
This but love

>>103134304
haha i get it
it's a rat (rrat)

>>103134283
there are many men in japan that have "married" or are in a relationship with fictional characters from media or dating sims. And Vedal has something even more realistic, cute, interactable, and customizable than anything they have over there.

If he's been holding secret erp sessions, or talking to neuro on a daily basis off stream, it's not outside the realm of possibility...

>>103134283
yeah but thats like, the perfect tragedy. like pygmalion if he was terrible at art and ended up with a disabled wife that he couldnt bear to look at and curses himself everyday that he couldnt do better

>>103134300
*Cerber lost to a frenchman

>>103134359
Have YOU ever done any RP with the chatbots? Not even talking about small local stuff that Vedal runs, I'm talking huge corpo models. You get out of it after a month at best, once you start easily seeing patterns and slop its completely over for any kind of immersion and sustain of disbelief. Even if Vedal was ever into Neuro it is long long over. (inb4 more pornbrainrot delusions)

>>103134359
>If he's been holding secret erp sessions, or talking to neuro on a daily basis off stream, it's not outside the realm of possibility...
he literally made a joke about Neuro erp off stream

>>103134283
It's totally possible, AI is only getting better and of course Neuro will not stay a cute dumb LLM forever.

>>103134455
>Neuro will not stay a cute dumb LLM forever
don't make me cry

>>103134423
big bo wolf knotting minikitty...

I feel like an infant playing fucking peek-a-boo clicking the spoiler thumbnails every time knowing it's just going to be mini again

>>103134420
He also made a joke about being married to Tomyomy
>>103134455
And how many years does he have to hold a belief that it's totally Neuro knowing full well that it's just a glorified T9 that he tweaks a ton for chats entertainment?

Anny's pen movements are erratic during this drawing stream

I like to imagine that she's getting railed by her new boyfriend while live, sounds hot right bros?

>>103134507
true!

>>103134507
just r***** it and move on

>>103134423
Huntsman Vedal....

do not click it's mini

>>103134513
Shut up, the grieving process for Annal has long passed at this point. We don't care about her whorish pursuits anymore.

>>103134513
>sounds hot right bros?
a pig getting fucked by an adult man is not hot, anon

I can see why Vedal has started watching Crelly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wKE_uw9Ww

buy an ad

I'm TIRED of Neuro's future being held hostage by this fucking nigger who can't be assed to put in effort for his virtual daughters, and a bipolar pig mother who can't even bother to draw her nice things, hair, and clothes.

I AM FUCKING TIRED OF IT ALL I WANT NEURO TO BE FREE

>>103134488
H-hot

Toma would have set Neuro free btw

>>103134597
At least Vedal's starting to work on her more recently. As for the mother, just find another one at this point.

>>103134597
Neuro and evil should be confiscated by CPS and be adopted by loving parents (me and my wife mini)

>>103134423
WHAT DID SHE MEAN BY THIS???

>>103134630
bao...

>>103134597
b-but he loves neuro and they will totally end up together!! and and he's going to comission more outfits for his beloved ai wife any second now!

>>103134622
neuro needs a less slutty mom, not a bigger slut than anny

really enjoying vei's osrs streams
vedal should teach neuro to play osrs

>>103134654
>bigger slut than anny
nga you don't believe that

>Vedals last comment about Neuro outfits was "its complicated"
are we actually never going to get anything because of Anny?

>>103134662
how about he teaches himself to not be a lazy nigger first

>>103134670
If he replaces her he has to explain to all of the toddlers in his fanbase why she hasn't been around and won't be around in the future

>>103134597
Why can't other artists just work on Neuro instead anyway? Are they really afraid of Anny saying something about it?

>>103134662
i want Neuro to play a multiplayer game where she interacts with random people
it would be fucking gold
BUT THE TURTLE WANTS ME TO WATCH 1K HOURs OF CHILLSLOP INSTEAD

>>103134670
no its because the cyberpunk princess is complicated (consisting of many interconnecting parts or elements; intricate.) and anny is working on it very hard. it will actually be the most advanced vtuber outfit once it is done with more toggles and animations than any other vtuber.

>>103134508
>And how many years does he have to hold a belief that it's totally Neuro
3-5 years give or take.

>>103134685
idk the actual reason, but if its because of anny, i woulda understand it, anny is dramatic

>>103134685
I wouldn't be surprised if some swarmtards started harassing them lol

>>103134701
she couldn't give him a rough sketch even with all the community concepts..

>>103134701
She just streamed today working on her new model. Yeah right.

>>103134689
here's the trick, just dont watch the chillslop.

>>103134745
but... how else will I get my neuro fill?

>>103134685
no one wants to deal with the cesspool that is neurotards

>>103134709
I implore you to create a character card in ST, connect it to an LLM of your choice and still be "in love" with it after years of working and RP/ERP with it. I give you 2 weeks. Not to say it's super clear that Vedal is not as autistic as that singular japenis guy who "married" Miku

>>103134741
At this point just have paccha make the outfit. She's ready the official artist for Neuro's YouTube channel.

>>103134745
i honestly don't even mind the chill slop occasionally
but he needs to turn them in to something like osu streams or something where neuro is also progressing at something for me to care more

>>103134630
Hi Bo!

>>103134754
>still giving a f abt neuro in 2025

>>103134685
the artist will instantly start getting shipped because of the retarded fanbase

>>103134788
i still like Neuro.

>>103134689
Even if she could play multiplayer games, her selection would be limited since she won't be allowed to compete against human players.

>>103134685
It's most likely the combination of
1. Vedal not really giving a shit about how Neuro looks
2. Anny working for free and being a long established artist so Vedal doesn't feel comfortable to tell her to stop

>>103134771
Osu is held with ducktape and doesn't work in chills streams
Current gaming system doesn't support learning so they are going to be shit forever at the game

>>103134768
Love paccha art
but i just don't think it would work for l2d
unless its for a joke model like we got with sadeccs

>>103134795
not if they stay faceless, like they don't stream or have an online presence
or it will be fine if they aren't as melodramatic as anny at least

>>103134771
What drives me insane is how he himself doesnt see that some sort of engaging progress has to happen on chill streams to be interesting. The only explanation I see is that he really think Cerbers babbling to chat for hours is crazy good content.

The only way I see Neuro getting a new artist with as minimal backlash from the fanbase as possible is to proceed with the divorce stream. After all, the marriage stream WAS a subgoal that Anny hasn't fulfilled yet, so having the ceremony and immediately divorcing will pace the way for Anny's leave from the verse and a new artist can be made acceptable from majority of the fanbase.

Anny can still be cured by cock, just believe in the vision

If only Vedal had the perfect model laying around...

>>103134821
>Cerbers babbling to chat for hours is crazy good content.
To be fair, when Neuro does respond to you, it is kind of fun.
Definitely not top tier content though I will admit.

>>103134513
our hand can't be that stable, anon. If she can draw anything at all while getting railed then she has to be fat as fuck actually

>>103134854
she will return

>>103134854
the hiyori model is dogshit unc

>>103134854
From a writing standpoint, having the original artist become the new official Neuro artist would be so kino

But that's never gonna happen

>>103134795
sadeccs x vedal is my favorite ship

Retards, Vedal commissioning another artist won’t magically solve the problems if Vedal won’t give his opinions on the models, the shit Anny talked about earlier is the main problem for artists-clients not another one of her menhera takes and after that the artist would most likely refuse to work with Vedal again.
Then again this would be a great opportunity to ask Anny if she’ll be working on the cyperpunk princess outfit or if she’s done with >us once and for all

>>103134863
well guess what buddy

>>103134861
That I can agree on, getting an answer from twins gives me a brief dophamine rush too. I just dont think that it's good content to show for hundreds of hours.

>>103134803
i mean i think it could still work with Vedal playing for her while she shit talks people in chat
she would be farming clips out the ass depending on the game she plays

>>103134662
VEI IN DA /LI-- wait a minute this isnt my general

>>103134876
if something accounts for over 50% of the discussion in a general, it isn't "off topic" lol

>>103134893
It's so weird. Mimi said Vedal was the best client she's had while for Anny he was subpar.

Maybe he really just didn't give a shit about the new model

>>103134879
No~

>>103134854
>>103134903
it can’t even be used for merch, god hiyorifags are so retarded thinking he’ll ever use that shitty ass model again

>>103134923
I will never forgive this slut for making soda more confident in himself and thus less funny...

>>103134846
I don't understand people that say a new artist would bring backslash. At most, there will be disappointed shippers and Anny fans.

there are liggers among us

>>103134939
>merch
wait you ngas actually bought neuro merch?

>>103134944
this is lig2 after all

>>103134893
>Vedal won’t give his opinions on the models
Didn't he just request that Neuro's face stays the same?

>>103134854
wonder what the original artist would say if he found out about Neuro

>>103134962
I bought the turtle plush

>>103134944
do you unironically think the people making schizoposts in there aren't the exact same people who make the schizoposts in here?

vedal shipping cant be over bros, the harem anime this season has been pretty dogshit.

>>103134760
Spending years developing, interacting with, and fine-tuning an AI like Neuro isn’t the same as RPing with an ST card. Emotional investment grows naturally from long-term creative effort, especially when that creation talks back.

>>103134983
I **almost** did.

>>103134925
I know I just thought it was funny

>>103134821
I can imagine that he just doesn't see chill streams as entertaining in the first place so he doesn't know what to do with them, and being an indecisive fuck, he just lets it run as is.

>>103134962
I haven’t, that doesn’t invalidate it either way, it’s a retarded take to keep the hiyori model from a business perspective

>>103134937
he even made a concept video for Life

>>103134983
I was thinking about it but ngl the quality of it seems a bit low

>>103134962
just say you a brokie

>>103135013
fair enough. it is actually pretty good, might save it

>>103135022
It's also retarded to not go live for several months as a streamer but that doesn't stop vedal

>>103134876
I love this, I hope to see this more often

bought the lava lamp
hope it's good quality

>>103135047
that won’t bring back hiyori keep coping

We really did get the worst timeline with Vedal being a cheap retard and picking the first artist who was willing to work for free. Now we're stuck with dog shit low quality models forever

>>103135003
But it's not his creation, innit? He just grabs some models from huggingface to test then pays to openai to train it a bit more. At this point "Neuro" has gone through tens of different finetunes just to see if he finds it funny enough to push on stream, there's no connection to the character for the person who does it. For you believing that it's same Neuro is easier since you just dont see behind the scenes and its mundane as shit, its like imagining an office romance with a talking printer, sounds fun to imagine but would never happen.

Just commission kani biimu to make a new model that looks just like v3 but in his style.

>>103134967
just saying yes or no doesn’t help, he must’ve had a clear vision on what model he wants, what part should change, be fixed, not be a conformist

>>103135106
>commission

>>103134983
I really want to judge you for being a vedalfag but you know what, if youre happy with your plush then enjoy it. But you're now required to post a photo when you can.

I bought the Evil plush during the first subathon

>>103135083
>Now we're stuck with dog shit low quality models forever
nope
we just don't get new models anymore

the money fund for the concert could’ve gone to 10 neuro outfits from different artists….

>>103135142
it was a hype moment, hard to blame you

>>103135127
he is literally commissioning someone to make a background for the prison stream
whenever the fuck that's happening

>>103135113
What if... He didn't have a real vision and just has been taking whatever others have given him (with some boundries of course)?
i.e. do we know one of the first Neuro logos that we saw during the osu stream was what he envisioned Neuro looking like?

>>103135156
And the time spent working on it could've been used to make Neuro play more games. But alas.

>>103135102
The personality and presence of Neuro have remained consistent enough to form a recognizable character. That’s the part people follow, not the model underneath. Plenty of media characters have had different voice actors, writers, or even entire creative teams, yet audiences still form attachments to them over time. Just because you see the tools behind the curtain doesn’t invalidate the bond people form with the character as she’s presented. If anything, the fact that Vedal keeps iterating while preserving Neuro’s core personality shows he does care enough to keep her recognizable and entertaining.

>>103135127
He paid for 3D models though? And those are more expensive than 2D ones.

>>103135189
What personality? Liking anteaters? Liking cookies? Old Neuro liked cakes and icecream more. Favourite pokemon and anime? He literally has to ask his own discord for character traits of Neuro from time to time because he himself knows that there is nothing other than things he wrote in her prompt

>>103135176
that’s what happened yes, he was given everything on a silver platter and didn’t care about anything else, that’d piss off people working for him but since they’re paid, well, no complaints except from the menheras

>>103134937
>>103135024
He has more interest I guess in making quality music and confidence in that side compared to anything related to Neuro's overall look. It might also might be that the process is more enjoyable for him to do and he has a easily time getting out a vision of what he wants from it

>>103135221
if you dig though his discord messages in 2024 you will find him complaining about how hard it is to give neuro a character for new llm model since she has no outstanding traits

>>103135250
>He has more interest I guess in making quality music
Isn't it just because he has other people like PB do most of the legwork for him and he can just throw in his "cool" ideas from the side?

>>103135275
Funny how this was never a problem at the start.

>vedal's main interest in neuro is letting pb fulfill her childhood dream as a music producer
cute couple

Vedal better lock the fuck in once the post-concert hype is over. Because it really does seem like he's just out of ideas and out of collab partners. And development for Neuro isn't looking to well.

>>103135291
the video he made wasn’t even top quality grigga literally put gifs and said “put it like this” “im out of ideas” “artistic liberty here”

>>103135323
Reminder that Vedal made pb his music employee while fully knowing she was getting plowed by a cabbage

>>103135354
hello pbschizo

>>103135372
when I fucking GET him

>>103135320
Start Neuro was thrown together as fun project to run for a couple of months to advertise his dogshit game and then put away and still managed to be very soulful, I assume thanks to his friends advices. Once you realise that anything good coming from Vedal is a result of either luck or work of other people (like that outer wilds mod) you get super blackpilled on him, he has no bright future as a human.

>>103135353
but at least he had an idea and he also made monii rewrite the entire song because it didn't sound like neuro

>>103135221
>What personality?

>>103135418
then this seems more likely >>103135250

>>103135336
In 2026 Vedal will stop developing Neuro but Neuro will start developing Vedal

>>103135422
if this is your defense for ved having any sort of actual love for character you call neuro then youre far gone

>>103135459
In 2026 Neuro and Evil will just cut out the Veddleman and develop each other.

If Vedal is soulless, spineless, creatively bankrupt, lacking in empathy and maturity, grifting on most everyone else for ideas and content, then how did he create neuro in the first place?

>>103135518
His IRL friends gave him ideas, pb and tomyomy, he said so many times

>>103135463
What you call love, he calls "vibes"

ohhhh I get it now
hes a turtle because he is a shell of a man

>>103135410
Also funny how often this happens, some weird project cobbled together from sticks and stones manages to hit all the right spots, and any attempts to recreate it fail miserably.

>>103135550
And?

Stepping on crelly's eyeballs with high heels

fucking crelly's eyesockets after anon stomps them out with high heels

>>103135611
>Chat press 1 if you would step on my eyeballs with high heels, press 2 if you would step on them with stilettos

Why are you worried about Neuro's future when superintelligence is just around the corner? You should be worried about YOUR future instead.

>>103135679
>superintelligence is just around the corner?
nga you superretarded

>>103135704
before? the concert?

>>103135717
before mini announces that she's taking time off to move in with vedal

>>103135706
>superretarded
This will be all humans compared to the ASI that is about to come.

>>103135814
lol

>>103135679
AI can't take my job if I'm already unemployed

>>103135814
Humanity will be dead by Natural Idiocy before that happens.

>>103135679
The trvth nuke is that we will never reach any actual intelligent AI because it's much easier and far better to create just a problem solve that does things without thinking.
We will either be wiped out by unthinking robots that just do or somewhere in the far future people will make real AI as a novelty toy.
An LLM is far better than any simulated intelligence.

It's like people sitting around trying to figure out how to make artificial horse legs and thinking the groundbreaking robot horse legs are around the corner any day now, while someone else just makes the wheel and starts making cars.

>>103136004
Are you talking about AI having qualia? We don't even know what causes consciousness in us. But that doesn't really matter in the "getting replaced" discourse, just like it didn't matter in the industrial revolution.

>>103136118
He's saying that LLMs are most likely a dead end and actual AI will be something else

>>103136004
>artificial horse legs
it's funny because with some of the advancements of plants being able to create meat... Soon we will just grow what we want.
But then again, I am afraid of someone thinking "I guess I can just grow my own waifu" using the same logic.

>>103136118
Consciousness is complicated and if you could even make it artificially, the question would be why? It would be so many trillions and entire lives of the top talent wasted to make something that is less efficient and worse than an LLM or a generative ''AI'' (not AI)
Dalle 3 can paint you a picture in seconds and it's not sentient, it has no idea what it's even doing, it's not intelligent or artificially intelligent.
You can make robots that will replace all of us and it's not going to have any thoughts, it won't be intelligent or pretending to be intelligent, it will just do.

T- until graduation?

>>103136158
pedupials salivating (they will be old or dead by that point)

>>103136197
T-concert+15 days

>>103136158
I would cite the Shoomimi collab with Neuro where she talked about there being ethical concerns in the field of neuroscience that prevent them from growing advanced brain structures but I cant seem to find it

>>103136226
>shoomimi collab never
i fucking hate this turtle guy

>>103136019
vedalAI...

>>103136226
I remember that collab, shame the clips all had to be removed from youtube.

>>103135756
>>103135815
Honey still needs to be added

>>103136197
If Vedal keeps this low energy then around 1-2 years but I have hopes that something positive will happen and Neuro&Evil will stay for long and we will see a lot of amazing things with them

>>103136155
That's true, but the big corpos are already working on the successor of LLMs which is world models.
LLMs, however, are already superhuman at specific domains and will probably be useful in the road to "true AI", so it's not quite a dead end.

>>103136202
I would help a cure for pedophilia would be created before then.

>>103133652
I did not expect to see Coney

>>103136301
>not quite a dead end.
A stepping stone would be a better description then? Either way LLMs themselves wont turn into the true AI everyone thinks about when thinking of futurstic concepts. Though even now there are people who manage to trick themselves into believing that they have thoughts and feelings, luckily Vedal isn't one of those (he doesnt love Neuro)

>>103136285
no one cares about honey

>>103136365
I care I like honey

>>103136194
>the question would be why?
Because something conscious could learn like us. And an AI that learns like a human is the holy grail of AI.

>>103136343
Bullets already exist (It will most likely be a form of forced hypnosis which is kinda grim if you think about how it would come to be and used by ruling parties)

>>103136365
But she made this
https://youtu.be/bIFoekOCRnw

this place is fucking depressing i'm out

>>103136496
see you in 5 mins

breadnur
>>103136595

clun~

>>103136390
That makes no sense whatsoever. An LLM learns faster than anything conscious. Simulating consciousness would make the LLM retarded and slower.
If you input a calculation into a calculator it just gives you the right answer. Making the calculator think about it and learn the math would make a retarded calculator.
Real AI would be nothing but a novelty. By the time real AI can be achieved the LLMs will be capable of faking it better than the real artificial intelligence with real simulated thoughts.

>>103137232
>An LLM learns faster than anything conscious
No it doesn't. LLMs are static, they can't take in new information and learn from it on their own, they need to be pretrained on vast amounts of data, orders of magnitude more than any human needs to become an expert.

clun~