Thread 103151483

>nobody cares about your 3d debut
>people talk about your lower subcount coworker's 3d instead of yours
>post picrel to try to get people to talk about your live again
why is she like this? does she feel like she needs to win against gigi? im not even a unicorn but this is actually retarded hopefully its out of her system now

>>103151483 (OP)
go cry to the cucktower dude

>>103151483 (OP)
It's definitely true, the only people talking about ERB's cocksucking extravaganza are beggars and pissed off unicorns. Everyone else is like "lol old man wizard"

>>103151483 (OP)
you made up a nice fanfiction in your head I can't wait to see what's next

>>103151483 (OP)
Helmite you need to stop
This shit is not healthy bro
Watch some Watame VOD, I'm sure she will stream tomorrow

>>103151483 (OP)
how this affects the mental health of trump?

>>103151483 (OP)
>Has the highest sub count of her gen
>Higher CCV and Superchat than Gigi 3d debut
Why are you angry, incel?

>>103151767
Very important question. Needs answers!

>>103151483 (OP)
uh oh unicorn melty
>feel the need to win against
she did win. more ccv and SC

>>103151767
Einstein files

>>103151483 (OP)
Oji-chan mogs

>>103151483 (OP)
>Goes to everyones chats and drops the most basic of courtesies
>loves the sh*rts
>Does more with them than any of justice/advent
>shrill voice
>brony
>oldest member out of anyone
>Starts a fight over "unicorn tears" when nobody watches her to begin with
>boring stream choices
>Constant unarchived karaokes
what does ERB bring to the table that nobody does?

>>103151590
>pissed off unicorns
>ERB
Do you get information from xitter?

>>103151483 (OP)
if my entire 3d live that i worked for MONTHS got mogged by an old japanese man dressed as a wizard i would seethe too

>>103152380
The Japanese staff conducting her interview thought her voice sounded cool.
That's literally it. She has absolutely nothing else going for her.

ERB still considers herself just a voice actor playing a preset character.
Just look at how she interacts with others during collabs, she's a walking one note cardboard cutout and the other girls try to avoid talking to her as much as possible given the chance.

>>103152380
British, which is a negative

>>103152380
>i'm a seething unicorn
yes we know anon

>>103152468
Everyone worked for months, there's no room for jealousy when everyone is on equal footing

>>103152380
Her singing is so desired they brought her fucking 2D ass to sing in 3D concerts

>>103152511
anon I was instantly turned off by ERB the instant I heard her voice. Forget the unicorn crap and focus on who she is. I don't see her as anything more than someone who knows how to do good imitations of voices.

>>103152478
She does give me early Calli vibes with being "different" and not really fitting in. However Calli turned out to be a real dork who was into nerd shit but was just afraid to show it with the ttrpg stuff. ERB really feels like she's just too normie and tries to do her character role when all else fails.

>>103152533
>i'm a brown thirdie mad about England
alri

>>103152606
Not everyone is brown for disliking a vtuber.

>>103152620
people angry about brits are almost always brown third worlders who got conquered by them or otherwise lost to them/america.

>>103152380
>>103152478
>>103152518
>>103152533
her voice is unironically so grating she was good in the fnaf song but she sucks ass at singing japanese and she can't get her god awful accent out of her voice and she sticks out like a sore thumb whenever she sings with anyone else

>>103152380
>what does ERB bring to the table that nobody does?
nothing really to be honest, voice impressions aren't really a good gimmick if you aren't creative enough to know how to make content with it

>>103151483 (OP)
I was going to watch, but since there's cuck stuff, nevermind

>>103152538
ERB is too old to change like Mori did, ERB is set in her ways

I refuse to believe any of you cares this much about ERB and it's not an schizo samefag making all these threads

>>103152538
You'd think her mlp background would make her better at not seeming like a normie, but unlike Mori she never was much for 4chan.

>>103152937
I hope things are going well for her and she's able to break her cold English composure and embrace some weeb shit like the others.

>>103151483 (OP)
>when you're so successful, you have to make tweets like this about how you totally don't care about all the "haters"/normal fans who don't wanna watch or spend money on you, right after what should be a triumph of a stream
ERB can't stop winning. Unicorn chuds BTFO, r-right, bros?

ERB is the first Holo I blacklisted on Dex. Not even anti-idol culture Mori was this obnoxious, and I say that as a Pioneer that really doesn't care about the girls collabing with guys here and there.
Make of that what you will.

>>103152995
did you assume so because nobody cares about her, period?

>>103152538
Pretty much all of Calli's issue stem from her being an old 4chan poster who likes baiting people but not understanding doing it on main is a bad look.

>>103151483 (OP)
Capitalizing MY is a sign of total and absolute seething

>>103151483 (OP)
>nobody cares
yet here you are, drawing attention to it for free
>people talk about your lower subcount coworker's 3d instead
projecting jealousy onto people who dont know (You) is very telling
>post OP to try to get people to cry about your drama again
Nah, we point and laugh at (You) instead OP

>>103151483 (OP)
Very nice, OP. Very nice.

>>103153395
>we
But nobody here agrees with you, anon...

>>103152478
>takes keyfabe seriously
Based.

>>103153586
That's not what that means.

>>103152516
Gigi said lots of her stream was improvisation, so she didn't work as hard.

>>103152516
tell that to erb

>>103153638
gigi definitely put a lot of effort into coming up with gags and skits even if they weren't scripted out completely. erb's stream comparatively had basically no story or plot and was just an excuse to sing a bunch of songs and collab with homos. I won't say she didn't work hard but the work went into a different place than gigi's did

>>103153395
>we
Kys faggot

>>103151483 (OP)
Ok.

>>103152380
>what does ERB bring to the table that nobody does?
Holy boobers, without having a weird complex about them.

>>103151483 (OP)
i gooned to that 3d maaaan, it was great seeing ERBs huge boobas bounce around and shit

>>103157819
Waste of a good model

>>103153427
I wish someone good had gotten that cool outfit.

>>103153427
>>103157819
it's a damn shame she's only appealing to lesbians. Somehow to a greater degree than autofister who are half-way to fucking on stream

>>103159006
idk if erb's halfhearted yuri baiting really appeals to lesbians that much desu. autofister is kino though.

>>103160186
>autofister is kino though.
Do you say that as a lesbian yourself?

>>103159006
I mean just like seeing a female vtuber interact with males as a straight male viewer, other females the vtuber interact with are competition as a lesbian viewer

>>103152468
Skill issue. Should have been more creative and entertaining.

>>103160241
no I just love them

>>103161785
It's okay femanon, you can admit it here, we won't judge.
Just let me watch, that's all I ask.

>>103153427
that sort of exaggerated crass dancing reminds me why I never jived nor got in to nor enjoyed western normie pop culture. it's all so vulgar and lacking in any sense of style and just so incredibly boring.
shit was so bad I thought I was asexual in my youth because of how offputting and dull it all was until I discovered foreign media. white people definitely can't dance.

>>103151590
not a single unicorn is mad about her because it was 100% expected

>>103157819
I hate this stupid move at the at

>>103162282
Okay, but she varies her dancing a lot, so that's just five seconds of a routine meant for this song.

>>103161834
alright I'll be sure to hit you up next chance I get

>>103152478
>ERB still considers herself just a voice actor playing a preset character.
Which would be a good thing if her character wasn't being a normalfag, but actually interesting.

>random old man made much more of an impact than the homos she pulled on her live
Lmao imagine losing this fucking hard

>>103151483 (OP)
HATE. MARKETING.
I wonder who gave her that idea?

>>103152538
Erb would rather go to a soccer game or go outside away from her fanbase than play video games.

It's incredible how rent free Liz lives in all of your heads. You are the minority. No matter how much you wish for her to disappear she will remain for a long time. Instead of wasting a fragment of your time shitposting about a successful woman you could be watching your oshi's streams.

>>103171926
I don't want anything to happen to her anon, I literally forget she exists because she doesnt interact with anyone in hololive in any meaningful way at this point. The most I've gotten from her were the en recollection interactions through others. She can do whatever she wants. I came into this thread to see if the falseflagging retards came up with a new script instead of reusing the same one they have been using for multiple years now, which by the way, they aren't.

>>103157819
>without having a weird complex about them

>>103171926
>No matter how much you wish for her to disappear
She does that all by herself, she needs no help

I think she’s just a loser

>>103172506
I don't think I've ever seen her really talk about her breasts tbdesu. I agree with the other anons that her model is massively wasted on her though, except maybe her long ass ahoge is a little ugly

>>103162351
The ones that got mad are holostars antis I think

>>103176646
Aka unicorns. They're two sides of the same coin. Always stirring up drama and then blaming "homobeggers"

>>103162351
>no single unicorn is mad about her
>we are having those threads every single day
>everytime you talk about her out of her dedicated thread there is an unicorn crying about her
Please don't speak as you know every single person of a group and every single moves.

>>103153638
Gigi undersells herself all the time.

>>103176888
>every single thread is made by a unicorn

>>103178262
>i know those people aren't unicorns!

>>103151483 (OP)
unicorn tears incel

I used to see her as some hag who's completely disconnected from hololive culture and just sits there wasting a spot doing her own irrelevant thing. I didn't know unicorns lived rent free in her head to this degree

>>103178570
>i know those people are unicorns!

>>103178719
they just say it themselves

>>103178820
proving him right?

>>103176834
>>103176646
It's literally a holostars fan called twilight1234567890 causing the drama and he admitted it

>>103153227
Do not use her for your falseflagging you filthy nigger

>>103151483 (OP)
>nobody cares
>*keeps making threads about it*
OP...

>>103178820
you believe he was a unicorn yet you don't believe the part where he said he wasn't interested in ERB?

>>103178976
Dont forget their many alts

Biggest waste of space since .... space.

>>103179246
He was in a thread that was exaclty like this, if he wasn't interested he wouldn't even partecipate those threads, or even replying to people.

>>103151878
The only thing true in there is the higher sub count, Gigi's 3D out performed ERB's and is sitting at a higher VOD count as well.

>>103179360
>thread talking about what A did
>A talks in a thread about what A did
>"see he was interested after all!"
i'm beginning to think you are being obtuse on purpose

>>103152995
it's quite literally just third worlders and dramafags on /vt/ at this point

>>103179486
>Gigi's 3D out performed ERB's and is sitting at a higher VOD count as well.
The only thing is higher VOD views. But, why are you lying about the rest?

>>103152380
She is very boring, like she is a good singer but other holos are also good singers while having an actual fun personality, her streams are just her doing pop culture references

>>103179500
>completely misses the part about "replying to people" on purpose
>completely misses the part where he attacks her saying "she thinks she is Suisei" on purpose

>>103179099
I'm not "falseflagging" anything or anyone.
Not sure why it's so hard to believe, ERB is obnoxious as hell.

>>103151483 (OP)
>I'M GONNA STOP WATCHING >:(
>do it then
>run to 4chan to cry
you love to see it

>>103151483 (OP)
>im not even a unicorn
whatever helps you cope sis

Not even ERB can't sustain a bait thread. Dead hobby, dead board.

>>103180340
>both don't stream
>both are singers
>both have no mascot
>both don't want gachi's
>both have SC turned off
>both want to sing with homos
He is right though. ERB wants to be Suisei so bad but forgot that Suisei had to jump through hoops to be where she is right now. What had ERB done? ERB doesn't have a single orisong while Suisei has had countless with many albums signed at a record label. Suisei has good chem with other Holomem and participates in Hololive events, while HoloEN avoids ERB and vice versa (HoloGTA, Spellingbee, Holo7DtD, fes-Offcollab karaoke, No EN JP or Devis in her 3D debut, etc.). ERB does not have the authority to lecture people as she hasn't made a single contribution to Hololive.

>>103151483 (OP)
>im not even a unicorn
How is that relevant at all to the rest of your post?

>>103180954
>he is right tho
>proceeds to talk about why
See, you don't get it.
The point is not that he may be right or not, but that he cared to point out this fact.

>ERB does not have the authority to lecture people as she hasn't made a single contribution to Hololive.
Damn dude chill down, it doesn't even make sense. You can lecture one if you didn't achieve anything, because even in "failure" you get lessons.

ITT seething unicorns. I cannot wait for you pigs to die from high blood pressure in two or three years time.

>>103151483 (OP)
based ERB

>>103151483 (OP)
Who cares, just a whore outing herself as a whore again
Western bitches are beyond entitled

>>103151483 (OP)
>im not even a unicorn

>>103179558
ERB views were clearly botted retard and quite a few of her SCs were from # monkeys that are going to chargeback

>>103151483 (OP)
the truth is that ERB is a wet paper of a personality, and the only thing she has going for ther is her singing voice, she isn't fit to be a vtuber, thats why her genmates are eclipsing her in popularity despite ERB is supposed to be the face/leader of the gen

>>103181498
TRVTHNVKE

>>103151483 (OP)
you sound mentally ill falseflagger, get some help

>>103181042
>The point is not that he may be right or not, but that he cared to point out this fact.
Pointing out facts is wrong now
>Damn dude chill down, it doesn't even make sense. You can lecture one if you didn't achieve anything, because even in "failure" you get lessons.
The fact that instead of listing ERB contributions to EN, you are talking about
>everybody makes mistakes and people learn from it
Shows that ERB, hasn't contributed anything. You're correct that failure has lessons, but you then have to accept that it is in fact a failure. Instead ERB doubled down in this tweet, showing that she didn't learn, wont learn and shouldn't lecture others

>>103182861
*and therefore shouldn't lecture others
It's like an interior arcitect telling construction workers on which percentage sand there must be in concrete

>>103181437
Sounds like cope.

>>103181498
>thats why her genmates are eclipsing her in popularity despite ERB is supposed to be the face/leader of the gen
>has more subs

>>103182972
Yeah she gained more subs in debut period and being a singer gives unnatural boost to subs. That isn't the only metric of popularity however.

>>103151514
FPBP

>>103182972
>unnatural boost

Is it true she is Jim Sterling in drag?

>>103182972
>>has more subs
She debuted first.
>Due to her homoshit in her debut, people left and decided that Justice was useless.
>She went overtime, raided her own song and fucked up the raid to Gigi
>First collab? ERB's channel
>music and karaoke tourists
>Leeching off Nerissa and JPs like Roboco and Ao
You are aware that Raora passed her but because she was at the start during JP prime time she regained the lead.

>>103182861
>Pointing out facts is wrong now
Simply that wasn't the point i was making, and that's not really a "fact" rather than an assumption. I said "fact" because he pointed out as that, not because i agree with it or it is something "right".

>Instead ERB doubled down in this tweet, showing that she didn't learn, wont learn and shouldn't lecture others
Explain then, what did she wrong exactly?
I put the word "failure", in quotes, because she hasn't fail, it's just a way to present you an example.
Indeed in that example i wasn't refering to ERB at all, but rather showing you how "lecturing people" aren't determined by things, but rather by how you express and what you want to express. Like if what you say is right, then it doesn't matter who you are or what you did.

>>103183001
>>103183021
>>103183123
absolutely cope
She doesn't stream and yet she still has more subs, this means that people care about her and she's eclipsed. It doesn't matter about "she debuted first" she was still raising despite Raora surpassed her many times.

>>103182972
You talk like an advertiser who doesnt know how the market works, good job.

I'm subscribed to catch her when she streams, especially the karaokes, I don't know what you're on about.

>>103183187
Truth isn't cope, retardbro.

>>103183001
what is unnatural about a dedicated singer in an idol company having more subs?

Liz is a Vtuber for people who hate vtubers and enjoy a well-trained voice.

Ironically the big 3 vtubers that a normie will typically lean towards are Liz, Calli, and Nerissa.

>>103152380
she was hired to shill ID/Stars

>>103183341
It is natural for them. Unnatural was relative term in comparison to non-singers. The conversation was about ERB vs rest of Justice.

>>103183286
You're coping by saying things "like unnatural boost" while it's a recongition of her talent, she's a singer after all.
The debut boost is just wrong, because that would've been just an initial boost.

>>103183143
are you using broken english on purpose because your writing is exactly like this other guy who argues that "unicorns keep making these threads" and then moved the goalpost to "more like who's discussing" after being told that the one making these threads could be either unicorns or homobeggars and nobody knows because it's an anonymous website

>>103183425
>it's a recongition of her talent
lmao, you're fucking retarded
songs click better in the algo regardless of their quality, it's an objective fact
if anything, it proves she isn't as good of a singer that she isn't more ahead of others, she should have been leading by solid 20% over second place in her gen if she was at comparable quality as a talent
look at Mori who was far above Ame/Ina/Kiara
look at Nerissa who sucks compared to FuwaMoco but was closer to them than Biboo/Shiori for a time and how much effort it took Biboo to get close

>The debut boost is just wrong, because that would've been just an initial boost.
I wasn't the one who brought that up because it's a lot less relevant but that thing tends to stay for a long time. It most certainly isn't wrong. It was there at the start and there's no reason for why it would ever disappear.

>>103182972
Ollie has lots of subs but no views, calling yourself the unifier on hololive and holo stars, aggressively spiting on unicorns is great for your sub count, but these political subs don't translate to views.

>>103183675
>songs click better in the algo regardless of their quality
Show me proof since seems to be an "objective fact". Prove me that singing automatically means that you gets more subs, not views, more subs. Also, you have then to show me how this can be "unnatural" if that's what her content is.

>he should have been leading by solid 20% over second place in her gen if she was at comparable quality as a talent
look at Mori who was far above Ame/Ina/Kiara
Mori does a lot of other stuffs, it's pretty different. And yet she weren't able to surpass Gura, which wasn't a singer. So this goes against your theory.

>look at Nerissa who sucks compared to FuwaMoco but was closer to them than Biboo/Shiori for a time and how much effort it took Biboo to get close
Sure but this actually may debunk your theory. Because FuwaMoco aren't just singers like Nerissa, but still they have more subs. You can agree with me that many factors are involved other than "muh innatural boost".

>>103183344
I think that hag that went to vshojo is an even bigger normalfag magnet. The one that did anime covers back then

>>103183675
But due to copyright her songs don't stay on her channel, so if you don't catch her karaoke or rebroadcast that's it. What is the algorithm suppose to promote?

>>103151483 (OP)
“Unicorn Tears” is ironically a drink brand in the UK. Seriously now. Why did she do this? She could have ignored it. Was it on Twitter or is it literally against 4chan???

>>103151483 (OP)
She is really awful. Pisses me off on twitter and reddit or whatever shithole people are acting liek she is some le wholsesom chungus she is clearly angry and bitter.
To basically ignore her genmates 99% of the time... Talking about and collabing with homos more than them,... To not bring any of the girls to her live but to bring a whole gen of holostars.... Just awful.
And for the record, no, I didn't watch it. Not giving her views. Never will.

>>103151483 (OP)
>starting shit over literally nothing for the attention (you)s
yup, just another day on schizo filled /vt/.

>>103151483 (OP)
>nobody
(You) are, now shush

thank god i only watch vivi now, watching holoen seems misery

>>103179774
Oh great its fucking Gex in vtuber form

>>103183187
show your erb watchtime

>>103183143
>Explain then, what did she wrong exactly?
feed the troll

>>103183344
>Nerissa
Nerissa is too weird for normies. It's more likely that normies will go to Bae

>>103180954
comparing erb to suisei is like comparing suised to ado, they are on complete different levels

>>103186862
How and when? Are you referring to the OP tweet post? Because if yes, then where's the lecturing?

>>103151483 (OP)
>makes content most American vtuber fans hate
>gets shocked they don't watch her
she's just a retard, like most bongs. did you know 175,000 yuros die of no AC each year because they act like ERB?

>>103186966
>they are on complete different levels
That's right, but that's i think the point that the poster of the pic in >>103178820 was trying to make. And he is right. ERB acts in such a way, like she is on equal footing to Suisei. But she isn't and she's a long shot away from it. ERB wants the fame but not the smoke.

It's frustrating, she really has everything to make it big(experience as a VA and singer from her RM's previous and current endeavors), but handicaps herself HARD. The lack of streams, pivoting to twitch(at least, if she's going to RP with non-holo it's better if she does it on another platform) which splits her attention on two different fanbases(sure, there's overlap but it's not like she's cross-platform streaming). And when she streams it's more or less separated from everyone else. She had this tendency in Minecraft(the she preffered to go solo so that natural, sporadic meetings happen... then she proceeded to go far away from spawn) and ENreco too, though you could argue it's because of timezones since she's basically alone timezones wise.
I hope that with their 3Ds and her enjoyment of VR that we will see some fun streams with the girls and her gen aside from management imposed streams, but at this point I half believe after Justice 3D the first stream will be with ID and the booooyz again. For fucks sake.

What kind of masochistic unicorn would even follow Liz? She said on her debut that she would callab with the guys, and within in weeks she had her first collab with them and has had many more since. Getting upset with her for the duet with Armis is peak unicorn retardation.

>>103181437
>erb botted views
true
>scs will be charged back
this probably a cope. I think gigi's lower sc numbers is because she had at least two merch releases in the month before 3d debut including her anni merch and the dice sets which were literally like two days before

also gigi's limited edition merch set sold out way faster than erb's did make of this what you will

>>103188811
And GG actually streams. People who regularly SC naturally spend less per stream the more there are.

>>103183854
>Prove me that singing automatically means that you gets more subs
Holy newfag.

>>103189303
>he has no proof
As i thought indeed.

>Dont like it dont watch it ;)
>ok
>REEEE YOU'RE HARASSING ME RAPE RAPE HELP ME HOMOS GIVE ME VIEWS

>>103190123
>completely schizo

>>103182968
Is it?

>>103151483 (OP)
Hope manager gives her a good bonking.

>>103157819
the complex makes it better retard

>>103186966
I can just tell that Suisei is insanely envious of Ado, its like God saw that Suisei abandoned her fans, the moment I first heard Ado singing I knew she was gonna steal my heart.

>sings a song
>sounds nice
>suddenly starts doing that fucking awful OoOoOoOo shoobEeDeeOoooyeahhhhbedoobeedaaa shit
Fucking stop. You're not black.

>>103194001
Very funny how the 2 EN singers that are considered to be the best are, at their cores, Whitney Houston knockoffs.

I'm not moved.

>>103159006
CCRyS literally hugged and wrestled on stream that's way closer to fucking than CCGG

>>103193825
99% of suisei catalogposting is making shit up then tricking yourself into believing it.

>>103179774
Remember when she was making portal references as if this was 2007?

>>103151483 (OP)
I care

>>103151483 (OP)
Seethe

>>103152829
Her voice is good, but she tries way too hard to show it off, most songs end up with a huge range. I rather listen to IRyS or Saba sing, good and they keep it natural.