A Saruei google dock has dropped
https://x.com/Saruei_/status/1953087894219870292

>>103182198 (OP)
google dockey

I'm not interested in this drama.

>>103182198 (OP)
Isn't that the unpleasant frenchie? She's probably in the wrong or whatever

lmao she only acknowledges this a year later when people start calling out her bullshit. accepts no responsibility, putting it all on the people SHE HIRED. calls people noticing her awful business practices slander... what a weasel

https://x.com/slayerduckie/status/1953098957980144049

telling that the guy hosting the literal porn site is more professional about all this, meanwhile saruei is acting defensive and guilty af

>>103182198 (OP)
>French
Who cares

>>103182198 (OP)
please let me goon in peace

>>103182198 (OP)
@grok summarize this doccy

>>103182316
vtubing is a woman dominated field. what did you expect? every single yab ends this way.

>>103182198 (OP)
Step 1
>It didn't happen
Step 2
>It happened but they deserved it
Step 3
>It happened and they didn't deserve it but it wasn't my fault
Step 4
>Why are you still talking about it? Quit harassing me!

>>103182198 (OP)
>fr*nch

>>103182198 (OP)
Gonna assume she's w4ong just because she's a stupid bitch

So what about Danbooru? Is anything there coming back? Both her tags were almost completely wiped.

>>103182198 (OP)

>>103182198 (OP)
>>103182857

classic french ppl

>>103182364
And then there's the dicksuckers gobbling her cock to the hilt like there's no tomorrow in the comments.

>>103182198 (OP)
>fucking with your own fanartists
This is rly gonna bite her in the ass

Start posting her old videos where we can see her.

>>103182914
Step 5
>Gets sued by Gelbooru

>>103183173
saar delete picture please

>>103183099
Probably not. This isn't the first time she's had issues with artists. In fact she was very nearly the first Sinder years ago and just got lucky because a much bigger cancellation came around in the form of Bunny just as hers was heating up.

too long didn't read
what's her issue this time?
once again mad that she gets objectified after objectifying herslef for years?

>>103182232
Understood napling.

>>103182198 (OP)
Ultimate normie take here, always right about how these things land:
Nobody gives a shit about rule34 gooners getting bitchslapped, Saruei is a cute french girl and wins this drama battle.
Sorry, I don't make the rules.

>>103183357
She's being sued because she unlawfully took down commissioned fanart from sites and is refusing to back down.

>>103183403
she ain't cute bro but she sure as hell is french

>>103183357
Saru has been paying a company for at least a year to send DMCA take down requests on her behalf for her paid fansly content. Except instead of just taking down her fansly content this service has been sending requests for content she does not own. They've even sent requests to google to remove links to her fandom page from google search results.

>>103183430
Well if he's an ultimate normie then he sure isn't talking about anything vtubing related.

>>103183403
You're right. people are too stupid to understand this drama and it will blow over in a week.

She's lying out of her ass by the way https://x.com/Feline_Ahegao/status/1952786267923472401

>>103183415
Non-comissioned fan art

>>103183440
Bruh, SHE has to check the DMCA before it gets sent AKA she signed off on it.

>>103182198 (OP)
The problem lies in she DMCA art that was not her own. She practically carpet bombed fanarts without specifically targeting those that were from her.

>>103183440
She owns the IP rights to her character so she's free to DMCA anyone making art of her without permission actually. Not a wise move by any means, but in her right.

>>103183689
The artist that made the fan art, owns the fan art actually

>>103182198 (OP)
tries to deflect the accusations -> proves that the admin was right

>>103183544
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=insaneproxy_%28artist%29

Sorry, your opinion does not count if your art looks like this.

>>103183721
All fanart made without the permission of the IP owner is copyright infringement.

>>103183779
You must be Japanese, fair use is a thing brother

>>103183689
Ah so she's going with the "I'm a huge hypocrite" argument.

read the google dockey
>owner of website akshually need to monitor every user upload
peak ANAL VIOLENCE behavior there

>>103182198 (OP)
Why can't she fuck off to the french internet

>>103182198 (OP)
Saruei and having trouble with artists. This is already the second time, isn’t it?
She never learns.

>>103182198 (OP)
OMG

>>103183319
Please use your witchcraft to make this happen to Bunny again, because it would be too funny.

>>103183689
That's not how dmca works

>>103183721
It's still a derivative work and you need permission from holders of both the primary and derivative rights to use such a work.

>>103183822
You must not be American. Anderson v Stallone assigns all copyright from unauthorized derivative works to the original copyright owner.

Anderson v Stallone is stupid as fuck, but it's the law in the US until it's overturned and until then fanart fully belongs to the IP holder. (don't ask me the consequences of Saruei being French)

>>103183822
She has paid content in the same category, so it will be hard to pass the "potential market" criterion. On top of that fair use is a active defense you can present in court, not a right.

>>103184230
Nope

>>103184296
It's straight up in the Berne convention. Derivative work copyright doesn't prejudice the rights to the elements of the primary work used in the derivative. in the US it's in 17 U. S. C. p 103(b).

>>103182198 (OP)
how will sayu make this all about herself?

>>103182999
different entity, they decided she's not worth the effort and nuked her altogether

>>103182232
spbp, who the fuck cares really

I ain't reading all that

All I am reading is that I should scrape, archive and seed all her stuff

>>103184373
If this was at all true then any sort of Nintendo characters fan art would get nuked because we all know how Nintendo is

>>103184552
based

>>103183822
Fair use is a thing but it is unlikely to apply here.

>>103184701
>posts proof
>um if that was true then non sequitur

>>103182198 (OP)
>Frog being a hypocrite, obnoxious bitch
More news at 11

Even if she was right (which she isn't, considering that 10 days after each strike was appealed, the appeal was approved) it's still dumb. All works that include her will be limited in reach and people won't like to make anything for her.

>>103182198 (OP)
Kek I don’t even need to read this to know she's gonna shoot herself in the foot

>>103185040
Looks like everyone is agreeing with Saru, actually. Pirates lost.

@grok generate an image of Saruei getting pounded in the ass by the manifestation of her DMCA takedown requests to rule34

>>103182198 (OP)
No one cares about her art, they just want to see her tits.

>>103182198 (OP)
I don't get why they don't just take down the copyright material.

>>103185099
The exact opposite, in fact

>>103185203
Did you read the X replies?

>>103183822
the other anon is right though, derivative works (fan art) are the rights of the original copyright owner and they can (although most don't) sue to stop them. beyond a takedown notice it's usually not worth pursuing legal action since there's no commercial value/loss to recoup and the legal fees would exceed the hassle (unless you already have in-house attorneys with too much time on their hands)

Even if she's well within her right to do so, she has to realize this will greatly impact her ability to connect with fellow artists for her animations. Hardly any artists likes working with people who don't respect other artists.

>>103182298
She just needs to get pregnant already so that she can devote her extra energy and maternal instincts towards raising a kid instead of simping for the mass importing of orcs into Gaul.
I will say that tags such as "Patreon leaks" or really "<anything> leaks" are dead giveaways that a website is a piracy one.

>>103185099
Pirates and archivists* lost

>>103182364
>The images you referenced are in soft deletion. If you click them, they won't display, but I can still restore them. I need confirmation from CamModelProtect, as they filed legal paperwork, so I cannot use a tweet to restore them.

Only took all the drama for him to do his job

-No major platform in the world can check every single upload. People can upload paid content to any large website. Do you verify if artists consent to having their art on your Discord for every single picture each user posts? Our moderation team does their best by reviewing new accounts and terminating repeat offenders.

"It's too much for me to handle." is not an excuse to host copyrighted content. Consider getting dragged through the mud part of the business of hosting such a site.

-The screenshot of http://rule34.us is not my website. I run http://rule34.xxx.

Saruei clarified later that it's both sites doing this

-We have always deleted any of CamModelProtect's valid DMCA requests and have been trying to resolve this for a year now. Only today have you asked them not to shotgun-fire complaints targeting fan art.

Should have just accepted the DMCA requests. This is why bigger websites just accept any request because it's more of a shitstorm to try to fight them

-You don't need to dox yourself to file a takedown. We don't require your address or name. See: https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=forum&s=view&id=4255.

-We're not a piracy website, and claiming so is, in fact, slander.

Having paid content on your site for free is in fact piracy.

-If you're reporting these complaints yourself, it doesn't make sense that we've received around 14 complaints targeting an entire tag.

Saruei doesn't control her fans

-I've already explained why we have Patreon and Fansly tags. Finding a paid post doesn't invalidate an entire tag. Tags are created by users and can literally say anything. It's both a blessing and a curse running a community-driven platform.

You could ban those tags and any other tags that allude to pirated content.

>>103185363
Thank you for correcting the record Spriggsy

>>103185363
you sound more retarded than saruei somehow. I'm astonished

>>103185312
It just says
>Patreon
>Fansly
It doesn't say "leaks" it's just Saruei's retarded french ass for trying to paywall EVERYTHING that anything will be considered a leak eventually.

Saruei is carpet bombing everything to do with her past in an attempt to hide her past as a camwhore by the way

>>103183689
Go away Saruei, don't you have other places to do damage control and DMCA at?

>>103185363
She is not going to fuck you.

>>103185432
>>103185467
>>103185546
I'm correct until you prove otherwise you won't and can't

>>103185363
is this what they call "reddit spacing"?

>>103185591
I don't care. She's still not going to fuck you.

>>103185488
Those are still indications. I agree Saruei is retarded which is sadly a common trait amongst many French and many women just as it is with many Americans but such tags still are strong indicators.

>>103185643
you cared enough to reply, female

>>103185591
Hey bud, you ain't gonna turn into a Paladin just because you white knight this hard.

did not address danbooru ad DivianArt situation at all
classic french

She has her mods lurking /vt/ - especially /lig/, for anything revealing btw

>>103185363
>Should have just accepted the DMCA requests. This is why bigger websites just accept any request because it's more of a shitstorm to try to fight them
You can actually 100% ignore these guys' DMCA requests because they're operating a useless DMCA claim bot farm. They have zero humans working there, all they have their bots scraping Google results and sending automated DMCA takedown requests. You'll just have to contest them with Google (they won't respond to this, again, because they're just operating useless bots). This is what you get when you cheap out like Saruei and decide to pay $10 a month for the service. It only targets the honest actors and fan artists.

>>103185684
Doesn't matter. You still will never get a sniff out of her pussy.

>>103185636
>>103185643
>>103185691
Me just sitting here being right.
>>103185745
I'm not trying to say that the website should accept every request like bigger websites. But any where an actual person made the request they should just do it unless it's clear it's a scam

Is she gonna set a precedent that demonize archiving even further?

>>103182198 (OP)
>Hire a company to represent you in DMCA takedowns
>Company uses bots for takedown requests
>Don't give them specific instructions on what content to issue claims for and what content to leave alone
>The bots issue a takedown request as instructed
>Request is refuted properly; content goes back up
>Bots just issue a takedown again because they're bots
>Bots don't reply to emails
>This process repeats for a year before the site admin takes down your entire tag and puts up a message saying that you're dumb and smelly and hired a retarded company that won't reply to emails.
>Go on Twitter trying to cover your ass because you've already had bad press over fanart before.
>Instead of owning up to your legal responsibility and trying to get the company to fix the problem they caused, you bitch out the site that the retarded company spammed takedowns to, calling them pirates because they have a fansly tag.
Saruei I know you're /here/. Get off of Twitter and call your fucking lawyer.
90% of vtuber drama wouldn't exist if people would stop posting to Twitter before talking with legal counsel.

>>103185885
None of the DMCA requests sent by the company hired by Saruei were sent by actual people, that's the point. R34 straight up sent back a "we're not complying with the DMCA requests targeting fanart" reply to them and filed counter claims with Google and they did nothing about it because no human ever actually read that shit. It's nothing but a pointless robot powered harassment service.

>>103182198 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/ricbw1.mp4

>>103185936
>we're not complying with the DMCA requests targeting fanart
And look where that got them.

>>103186045
It literally got them nowhere. They're not being sued or anything. They just took the whole tag down and called Saruei a moron for having these retards spam their email with their nonsense.

>>103185885
Hey buddy, sorry to inform you, but Saruei only likes BBC. >>103185991

>>103186045
It got Saru to publicly make a fool of herself?

>>103184472
nice deflecting saruei

>>103186079
Then why are they so staunchly trying to defend themselves?
They could have just complied and taken down the paid content and stfu.
>>103186106
>>103186112
I can't stop being right though.

>>103186106
best quality french whore

>>103186201
>They could have just complied and taken down the paid content and stfu.
They literally did that the moment a takedown request for paid content was sent. Did you just pop into this thread reading nothing?

>>103184701
I remember years ago upon the release of the newest pokemon games there were DMCA hits on a bunch of pokemon girl porn on Twitter and Tumblr and people thought it was trolls but Nintendo/Game freak enforced it.

>>103186266
No they didn't.

I'm more familiar with danbooru than r34, but I'm assuming they work in a similar way? If so, I don't think she understands or wants to spend the the time to learn how it works (understandable, imo) and that's contributing a lot to her frustration.

>Should have just accepted the DMCA requests. This is why bigger websites just accept any request because it's more of a shitstorm to try to fight them
I think other sites aren't as focused on archival and searchability, and that might be why. I don't understand IP law ennough to understand why, but the way the r34 guy's docky was worded seemed to imply he felt like the site was getting backed into a corner and he had to get her attention somehow.

>>103185363
>Saruei doesn't control her fans
This is the same problem the r34 faces with one of your other complaints:
>Having paid content on your site for free is in fact piracy.
The r34 guy doesn't directly control the users. He can ban them, but that doesn't stop someone from just making a new account and uploading more paywalled stuff.

>You could ban those tags and any other tags that allude to pirated content.
Those may act as user created flags for the mods to take them down. Often times a user will upload an image they found somewhere (say, /here/) without knowing the source or artist, and a different user can tag it as being from a paywalled source or banned artist (i.e. one that's requested to have their art removed.

>>103186317
They did, and they responded to the DMCA takedown request email specifying that they did (only for it not to be read, of course, because they were responding to bots).

>>103182198 (OP)

>>103186339
Just because something isn't paywalled doesn't mean it's public domain. It is piracy to take someone's artwork and upload it to a different site.

>>103182198 (OP)
so she's not happy with image hosting sites sharing her paid content so she's went on a war on host sites and invertedly or purposely hit all lewd fan art?

oh the boorus have removed all her fan art too, OOF

>>103186400
You can't file DMCA on other people's behalf claiming that you own the copyright to the artwork.

>>103186316 (Me)
Had to dig around my emails since I remember this because I got hit by one of these, and it was 2016 during the release of Sun and Moon. Point is they have done it in the past

>>103186418
>oh the boorus have removed all her fan art too, OOF
It's not really much of an "oof" when the people running her DMCA takedown operation literally requested for all of her fanart to be taken down.

>>103186424
Why are you arguing with an obvious troll bro

>>103182198 (OP)
>>103182364
>>103183544
Imagine having a Twitter account in 2025.

>>103185363
>"It's too much for me to handle." is not an excuse to host copyrighted content. Consider getting dragged through the mud part of the business of hosting such a site.
Their responsibility is to address legitimate DMCA requests in a timely manner, which they did.

>Should have just accepted the DMCA requests
They accepted the legitimate ones

>Having paid content on your site for free is in fact piracy.
Only if you do so knowingly and refuse to comply with legitimate takedown requests.

>Saruei doesn't control her fans
She's the one who hired the company to make the takedown requests. She should've hired a better company if she didn't want flak for it.

>You could ban those tags and any other tags that allude to pirated content.
The tags are optional in the first place. Banning the tags changes literally nothing.

>>103182198 (OP)
How can I fix her and eat that french pussy?

>>103182298
the problem is what she says and wants to do isn't wrong. its the company she hired to represent her is doing the wrong and she is standing behind them supporting them.
tl;dr she has paid content on her fansly she asked be removed, this is fine and within her rights.
the company she hired has told r34 so remove all content related to Saruei, including fanart and works she didn't commision or wasn't paywalled at all.
R34 has pointed this out but neither side seems to want to listen and feels more important.
Saruei having an in with badger has all done a number on her ego making her think she is bigger then she really is.
Most boorus have just straight up started hiding any works related to her just throwing their hands in the air and saying fuck it.
Shes French and retarded.

Piracy is actually cool and I like it.

>>103186424
This is a separate argument. You can DMCA derivative works which includes fan art.

>>103186339
I believe Saruei has talked in the past of hating booru websites.

>>103182198 (OP)
putain should stream on fansly more often for me to pay it instead of dramabaiting for relevancy

>>103185991
you can tell she hasn't had some fucking in a while with that horrible noise she makes that sounds more like someone coughing.

>>103186492
Saruei in general tends to defend people on her side who fuck up, likely because her ego gets caught up in it, like not defending them would be like admitting she did something wrong.

>>103186492
Who's Badger?

>>103186756
I don't think that's true in all cases. In the US, it falls under the whole Fair Use thing, which depends on a number of things. In those cases it's the artist that decides, not the IP holder.

>>103187495
It depends on a lot of interpretation from the courts. In general, fan art is considered derivative work in the USA and is not protected by fair use.

>>103187332
RussianBadger?

>>103182198 (OP)
>"platforms should have to manually approve all uploads to make sure there is no piracy"
Oh my... how about you get your streams pre-cleared then to make sure there is nothing untoward happening?

>>103187613
I really don't think it's that simple. Just skimming through the wiki for derivative work, there's an example of l.h.o.o.q. and a lot of fan art seems more transformative to me. Not all, but some proportion.

>>103182198 (OP)
GOOGLE DOCKEYYYYYYY
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

Fucking gooner drama. Lol

>>103182298
>unpleasant frenchie
Do you know how many frogs fall under that category?

>DMCAing your own patreon art on piracy sites
Well within her rights.
>DMCAing fucking everything including fanart
That's what I have an issue with.

>>103188410
68.52 frogs million

>>103187679
this fucking skyrat

>>103188444
Yeah what a bad girl, she deserves to be punished.

>>103188444
Unfortunately her white-knights are spinning it like it's only about the upper part while even rule34 admin never ever talked about pirated content getting DMCA'd.

>DMCA
Saroowee is French. Right off the bat utilizing an American system for an EU citizen is retarded.
Going into the specifics, the DMCA system is set up not based around the law itself but around what companies decided which ends up meaning that there is zero investment on the end of the copyright claimant to own the IP, prove they own the IP, or in some cases to even make the claim that they own the IP.
Under the law of the DMCA itself fanart would be protected content not subject to removal or monetary recompensation provided that the fanartist is not using it for business purposes. Hosting other's content in a digital forum is not classified as such. Provided the artist meets certain criteria they could even claim ownership themselves and monetize it. Porn isn't even technically convered under this agreement as the courts have always regarded it as obscenity which as a class aren't subject to protections.
If you want to go by the letter of the law itself Saarugwei has no legal grounds to complain under but between sessions of getting raped by Afrokan invaders she'll do it anyway to protect her fragile ego.

>>103188143
>I really don't think it's that simple
That's why I said it depends on interpretation from the courts.
>a lot of fan art seems more transformative to me. Not all, but some proportion
Most fan art is not transformative. Ironically, NSFW fan art usually is transformative but because Saruei herself uses her character design for NSFW purposes, it makes the NSFW fan art not transformative.

>>103182198 (OP)
Is this all western vtubing is now. Constant drama? Fuck, it's like being back in high school.

>>103188769
You never left. Now take off your pants and start your speech.

>ITT SIMPs defend frog whore who is literally doing the one thing that would get you raped on this and other websites in years past.
Imagine living as if you shouldn't be a cultural barbarian, sacking this fake and gay society for all it's worth.

>>103188834
Not a single person is defending her

>>103188834
>everyone else does an unjustified DMCA
OMG so horrible, we must protect the free internet, leddit pitchforks goooo~
>French mid-tier artist does an unjustified DMCA
U-uhm ackschually she is an innocent beenie-weenie and you know, we actually need to think if the internet needs some restrictions to protect ze princess

>>103188834
>>103188897
No one is saying this.

>>103188867
>>103188954
>They say while we have literal posts on this thread justifying shit.
It must be really hard to live while having no thoughts at all.

>>103189004
Quote em. Nobody is defending her, she has been one of the most dislikeable vtubers for the past 3 years on /vt/

>paying for porn
RUMAOOOOO
remind me again why people like this insufferable frog whore? also there's a clip of her lashing out at someone for asking if she plays fortnite so that tells me everything about her personality.

>>103185488
Is that not what patreon_reward is?

>>103182198 (OP)
I really like Saru so this sucks, but on the other hand I have nobody to blame but myself for liking a Fr*nch woman. When will I learn?

>>103183415
>>103183440
Damn, what a stupid bitch.

>>103189158
french whores will always let you down

>>103183440
Oh, it's really that bad huh?

>>103183440
Dumb French bitch

>>103187712
What's special about him?

did that dumb bitch send another dmca? LMAO

Not reading all that, BPD french slut, all people involved should die etc etc
Vtubing is supposed to be fun, not for drama farming

>>103189952
>the jeets are just using AI to automatically DMCA anything tagged "saruei" on the boorus
who could have predicted this

>>103188607
I'm almost sure porn is still protected, since not all porn falls under the obscenity clause.

>>103182198 (OP)
So if what I'm reading is correct the boorus don't have a case here because Saruei is fully within her legal rights to take down even completely innocent fanart because they're derivative works of her protected Saruei IP? It's just an extremely scummy thing to do.
This boggles my mind though because wasn't it also stated in the courts that if somebody else takes a photo of you in public, the guy who took the photo owns it 100% and you can't do shit about it? So if somebody snaps a photo of you that's perfectly fine but if they draw an image of you that's a no-go? I'm so confused.

>>103190120
Maybe, it's sort of a grey area and I'm not gonna pretend to understand IP law like some anon's in this thread. If she really wants to go down the route of "it's my character I own the IP" then she ends up looking like a hypocritical bitch who hates artists and fan art. It's essentially a lose lose situation for her when she acts like piratesoftware.

>>103189952
>>103182364
Just remove and blacklist her tag so they don't have to deal with any of this shit anymore? Yes, what she is doing is extremely shitty, but why even fight it at this point.

If you think about Saru can't be that retarded, she managed to learn English as a second language

>>103190303
Good luck with that shit. French has massive fucking ego. What, she will triple down like piratesoftware.

>>103182198 (OP)
i got a google docky for saruei too, in my pants, iykwim.

>>103190120
yes anyone can DMCA fanart, but a person can claim fair use and fight it in court, then the owner needs to provide proof that said fanart is harmful to their IP or made them lose money
I don't think a judge would fall in favor of an IP owner over a free drawing that is not generating revenue
basically fan art is a gray area that needs to be looked on a case by case at a time

I don't get why people are caught up with what are on boorus. Saruei is not demanding the take down on fanart from sites artists post directly to. Why care about what's on poorly regulated piracy boards?

Western VTubers need to learn to behave like the Japanese. You fuck up. You apologise. You shut up for a few days. Everything is good.

Instead, we will now be graced by French arrogance fueled drama for at least a week. Even leddit seems to be turning on Saruei

Imagine defending a French prostitute that is also a coalburner

>>103190445
Because I like being able to find art. I'm in disbelief that people like saru are seriously saying to just search for on twitter like it's a viable alternative to try and find something with no discription on a site with broken search

Go on the scraper sites and start downloading all her content.Steal it. Steal and steal and steal some more. Steal it and give it to all of your friends, and keep on stealing. This French whore has been a pain in everyone's ass for too long.

>>103190120
>So if somebody snaps a photo of you that's perfectly fine but if they draw an image of you that's a no-go? I'm so confused.
Actual human beings are not copyrightable. You are free to draw and publish an image of anyone you want.

>>103190389
So the boorus do have a legal case. I hope they take her to court then and Saru gets raked over the coals for this bs. I'm getting real fatigued over content creators acting high and mighty despite being pieces of shit in reality.

>porn censorship is a sensitive topic
>let censor a bunch of porn websites
This dumb bitch

>>103183822
Weird dig in this case because the Japanese have by far the biggest porn fanart market in the world.

>>103189004
Tbf im willing to bet a nut that its saruei posting

>>103183403
>Cute
>French
Pick one.

>>103190445
>poorly regulated piracy boards?
spriggsy?

>there are orbiters of a french coalburner defending said whore ability to censor any form of content relating to her
>yet they might have been seething about censorship in games and anime for the last 10 years for complete opposite reason
You the most scummiest subhuman imaginable, I wouldn't even piss on your corpse because my piss has more value than your existence.

>>103190389
>then the owner needs to provide proof that said fanart is harmful to their IP or made them lose money
This is only true if they sue for damages(and isn't even required for statutory damages). But this is not required to have the infringing work taken down.

>>103190718
Just don't make any Umamusume porn otherwise the yakuza will come knocking.

>>103190718
They also have the most autistic copyright laws in the world

>>103182198 (OP)
Saruei has been a major cunt lately

>>103182198 (OP)
I am fine with DMCA a paywalled content.
However, non-commissioned fan art? Seems scummy.

>>103190819
And yet by some miracle they have comiket

>>103190854
>However, non-commissioned fan art? Seems scummy.
Scummier still is that this really just seems like the art company she hired just overstepping their boundaries and DMCAing things they shouldn't. But Saru is taking their side 100% for some reason and showing zero accountability for their actions when she could literally just apologize and say she'll look into it. It's that attitude that really urks me and makes her a piece of shit.

>You will NOT draw the scar on the wrong side
>You will NOT refer to me as French
>You will NOT post my premium fansly content
>You will NOT post fanart of me
>You will NOT post commissioned art of me
>You will NOT depict me at ALL

>>103190806
I assume you're talking about me. I am not defending censorship, I am just clearing up the legal misconceptions you retards have.

I fully support piracy and oppose all copyright and patent laws. However, my ideals don't change the fact that Saruei is in the legal right.

>>103190892
because any sentient being knows that fans making free artwork of you to share with other fans and potential fans is good publicity, and that dmcaing it would be like deepthroating a shotgun, so most companies don't choose to enforce it. Unfortunately, the french have proven they have less intelligence than a fucking fock

>>103191015
worse than flare...

>>103191015
>YOU VVILL CONSOOM THE GOYSLOP I PRODUCE AND I WILL MAKE YOU PAY FOR IT

>muh misinformation
>posts misinformation
i seriously hope that she will fuck something up so hard that she disappears

>>103191031
Come on the frogs aren't all bad. They let Wakfu art slide right?
It's just this dumb bitch.

>>103191013
That's why she's so retarded. She could've easily gone "Gomen, my pajeets did a fuckie-uppie, I'll talk to them." and no one would care.
Instead she goes on a tanget about how rule34 is Hitler returning to Paris and how the free internet was a mistake and what we really need is manual reviews all the way on sites where users can upload content.

>>103191031
So they are not autistic you fucking retard.

>>103191015
>You will NOT post my premium fansly content
She's not wrong for that though.

>>103189056
>>103188867
>>103188954
take a look at twitter retard

I'm confused as to why she would want to quash fanart. The calculus has already been performed by large companies; it's more beneficial to permit fanart than to jealously guard the IP.

>>103191223
>actually its good that my fans cant share any art of me so that they HAVE to purchase my pay walled content
Saruei get the fuck outta here and start writing the twitter dogeza

>>103190303
>you don't like getting raped in the ass?
>then give, up why fight?

>>103191315
>Saruei
Holy shit you are retarded

A vtuber that takes an anti-fanart stance is so strange to me, who does it benefit?

>>103191278
Because she is a dumb whore. She wrote to sites that have a clear process NOT using that clear process demanding stuff be taken down. Obviously those sites can't handle every single mail coming through an unofficial channel so no one cared.
So instead of considering that she's doing something wrong and going through the OFFICIAL channel which has a 24 hour response time, she hired some pajeet AI company. Said pajeet AI company ended up targetting not just her paywalled work but fanart others drew of her, too.
And now, instead of apologising for her goons missing the mark, she's doubling down.

>>103191278
I guarantee you what happened is the jeets she hired to scrape her premium content and went scorched earth reported MA'AM WE DID THE NEEDFUL AND REMOWED YOUR PREMIUM CONTENT MA'AM BUT THE WEBSITE IS WERY STUBBORN AND THEY SENT THESE APPEALS MA'AM and in her retard French mind she just accepted the narrative that ALL of the pushback is purely from websites refusing to take down her premium stuff

>>103190445
If you don't care about fanarts then why do you send them DMCA takedowns?

>>103191365
Her ego

>>103191344
i think you should spend less time posting on 4chan and more time looking at which companies you choose for dmcas before you hire them. Maybe next time, filter out the ones who want payment in rupees

>>103191275
No, what do you think ITT means?

>>103191374
nah I think it's her retarded yes men mods. they're as stubborn and retarded as she and just tell her that she did nothing wrong. Chances are they wrote that horrible google doc for her.

>>103190445
The lack of accountability is what pisses me off here. I don't give a shit about rule34 sites ridden with malware but she's objectively in the wrong for DMCAing fanart she doesn't even own. Doesn't matter what site it's on. And then to act like she's in the right after being called out? No you fucking stupid bitch fuck you.

>>103191424
Take your meds and english lessons you fucking schizo

>>103191444
a word you didn't mention

>>103191513
See >>103188834

Art (especially softcore hentai) should be free and not be commodified.

>>103191483
Ok so you think that ip holders should try to stifle fan content? Is this the stance youre taking? Lets stop arguing like children and talk this out, you think theres something worth defending im down to hear it

>>103191365
>the only way to get Saruei works is Saruei herself
>for money
Her wallet. In theory. Problem is that getting unperson'd by the internet isn't good for your clout, and being a Saruei fan became synonymous with being a worm, a simp, and a paypig.

>>103191585
What, you think you don't live under capitalism, breh? You don't deserve to be immune. Commodification of everything.

>>103190812
She does need a litigation to take something down, Saruei is incorrectly using DMCA as some sort of weapon, you usually send a DMCA in order to speak to the person infringing on your property without a proper litigation, that is the way to take something down with out going to the court
Since she refuses to speak to the boorus she may be committing DMCA abuse and could be sued for damaging them and not doing proper legal procedures

>>103191547
See >>103182232
>>103185363

>>103191587
>Ok so you think that ip holders should try to stifle fan content? Is this the stance youre taking?
No

>>103191694
So you agree that saruei is stupid for dmcaing fan content, or at least stupid for hiring a shady company to do it for her? And retarded to then double down on dmca fan content?

>>103191015
Upps!

https://files.catbox.moe/5e7iu6.mp4

>>103191802
Mods, crush his skull. Thank you.

>>103191694
Oh you meant the autistic copyright laws, im nta lol i just joined in to shit on saruei

>>103191776
Yes, she is fucking retarded.

>>103191776
>So you agree that saruei is stupid for dmcaing fan content, or at least stupid for hiring a shady company to do it for her? And retarded to then double down on dmca fan content?
Never claimed the contrary

>>103191598
I feel like this business model is predicated upon there being no other drawn pornography available

>>103191802
Her content should be removed from R34 for being dog shit

>>103191802
People pays for these shit? Yikes

>>103182198 (OP)
I will now gen a flood of saruei porn to post on the blackedbooru and see if she dmcas that

>>103182198 (OP)
Stupid whore get raped by muslims in your europoor shithole

>>103188834
the only thing you sack is your mom's clean up closet to get the liquid to wipe away the cum stains from your bedroom, dork

>>103192623
I'm not paying for your onlyfans stupid roastie

>>103190303
Her tag basically is blacklisted on the site right now. If you search the tag or click on any of her fanart you just get the google docky instead so she should be happy. But she can't have that either because that's slander or something.

>>103190303
She's crying like that because they blacklisted her from booru and r34 if I understood correctly. Imagine sending takedowns on cooldown for every single picture showing your mudshark mug and then crying when the site owners don't want to deal with an inbred rape baby like you.

>>103182198 (OP)
>saurei is a bitch
well i could've told you that without all this.

>>103191802
This shit is pretty lame. How are her lewd ASMRs? They're not on any of the scraping sites last I checked.

>>103191802
There are cucks pathetic enough to pay for this.
She's pathetic enough to think this is stuff worth taking down.

>>103192845
Nevermind my post then, what a bitch.

>>103187106
She can go fuck herself then, booru sites are like the library of Alexandria for anime cooming

>>103186106
That's normal in France. Every French family has an adopted African bull.

>>103193190
Schizo one was pretty good. The bully one was better through.

I love seeing this grifting cunt humbled.

>>103183689
That's a good way to kill off people's interest in doing fanart of her

>>103182198 (OP)
https://www.rule34.lol/tags/saruei%2B%28vtuber%29?page=2&q=saruei+%28vtuber%29
It's not even that good.

>>103193770
BPDemons cannot be humbled. They only retreat further into self-delusion. Rest assured: the more yabs Saruei accumulates, the more bitter she becomes. She'll proceed like this until she arrives at the Final Yabai; the ultimate proving ground for all menhera chuubas.

>>103192705
Yeah it's funny
>bots spam dmcas on nearly every fanart of you
>cry because admin says "fuck it" and preemptively blocks the few remaining pics (which the bots were probably coming for anyways)

>>103182198 (OP)
Even Suisei, the most prude Holomem, at most just tells people to fuck off.
French people sure are quite drama queens.

>>103183822
>fair use
You do realize that the world is more than just America, right?

>>103183403
Pretty much this yeah. For as much as normies talk about simping they do it all the time without realizing it.

>>103190818
qrd on this?

This motherfucker is acting like Disney. No, your vtuber model is NOT you. It's a fucking mascot. It's fucking Mickey Mouse.
Does she understand the precedent she's trying to set here? It's fucking fanart. It's fanfiction. It's FAIR USE.

She won't win. She threatens the livelihoods of the very people who provide her art by being on the side of copyright trolling. Artists who support her are shooting themselves in the foot.

>>103191015
She even looks like flare KEK

>>103193581
tfw bully one isn't uploaded anywhere
worth subbing for or nah?

>>103191278
Like the other guys said, she probably didn't want to, but she doesn't understand what the boorus are, why they exist, or how they work. She probably just saw her premium stuff on there, thought that direct contact would mean risking a doxx (and was too much work, even though she says >>103183861) and then hired the bot farm and forgot about it until the r34 guy posted his docky. Now, since she doesn't get why the boorus exist and sees all reuploading purely as pirate sites, her instinct is that everyone using them is a bad person. So you get this knee-jerk reation.

>>103195316
>but should I still give her money, though?
Have some fucking self-respect. God damn.

>>103194933
Ever artist has an ego and with her being French and a group that constantly boost her ego does not help
>copyright trolling
Every Fucking Artist falls for this

>>103195577
For every Bob Ross, there are a hundred Sarueis.

This is why AI art is good.

No streams from the frog this week since she will be ranting all week

>take the indiepill bro!
the indiepill:

>>103194933
They don't care most are retarded and don't truly comprehend why they are popular and don't realize how they make money.

>>103195628
I don't care for Saru but I don't see how that's supposed to make me like AI.

>>103191802
>>103192139
The worst part about this is how low quality the animations are

>>103195498
Saruei might be a retarded whore but that doesn't mean I can't still jerk off to her for the price of McDonalds.

>>103191802
I never knew she was so down in the gutter like that, how embarrassing

>>103194933
I don't think she actually intends to take down fanart. I think she just doesn't give a shit that it's getting taken down along with her fansly stuff. She's a bit narcissistic and anything that even slightly inconveniences her is seen as bad and she will get rid of it. "I don't care that your fan art was taken down because MY premium content was uploaded and I'M more important than you". this is essentially how she thinks about things.

>>103195706
Artists are (were) the gatekeepers of culture. They know it, and they flaunt it. That's why they have massive egos a lot of the time. But reducing barrier of entry destroys that elitism, and their relevance along with it. That's why they seethe.

It's what gunpowder weapons were to bows. Becoming an archer was a massive undertaking, you needed years to train, practice and master. And it was undeniably better than early gunpowder weapons, which took barely any skill to use, but a lot of effort to manufacture. Tell me, what happened to archers, and what happened to guns? That's the future for art, as well.

>>103195955
So humanity just loses to their tools? Great future there, bud.

>>103182198 (OP)
It's like shooting herself in the foot killing her Fanbase with this one simple trick.

Good. I'm sick of seeing her art everywhere and being supported. She should be deplatformed for all I care.

>>103183319
>>103183934
IT FUCKING HAPPENED AGAIN
Just a different vtuber called Bunny this time
https://x.com/RadiaActive_VT/status/1953189365519429730

>>103194933
did you read her document? she claims she is striking content which she has paywalled on her fansly not just fan art people made for free.

>>103195955
>Tell me, what happened to archers, and what happened to guns?
The archers probably transitioned to using the guns.
But the analogy here fits better when comparing a G-pen to a digital pen.

>>103196326
Yeah anon it's called lying.

>>103195955
So that's why TheArtGun was so buddy buddy with Snuffy and IronMouse. Because she was gatekeeping her models.

>>103196326
It doesn't matter what she claims. The reality is that people she has paid to legally represent her have acted beyond their scope, refused any appeal or correct process, and she has refused to correct them. This means she has overreached herself legally and is responsible for everything they do.
She can say that she didn't mean it, but it doesn't matter what she MEANT to do. Legally speaking, she did it, and it's her responsibility to fix it.
Her statement is worth less than nothing, because everything has to be addressed through the bot farm she hired, or it has no legal merit, and this is a question of legal merit, not hurt feefees on twitter.

>>103182232
>>103183380
Saruei is superior to nimi because she's french so even if she was married she might still suck you off if she took a shine to you, while her husband was in the other room with his african lover Abdul. Such is the way of the French.

>>103196125
I don't write the rules or history. I just read it. Romanticists such as yourself can only cope and seethe ever since Industrial Revolution hit.

>>103196238
I would hate to be a ginger bunny vtuber whenever saru drops a google dockey. Not a safe time to be one

>>103195955
What do you mean destroying the barrier of entry? No one respects AI sloppers the same way they respect artists. They get no entry either way. A forklift doesn't destroy the barrier of entry into being a powerlifter because it lets you lift heavy things. People don't just value art because it's pretty. They value it because a fellow human made it.

>>103196576
You're too optimistic

>>103194933
>It's FAIR USE.
It's not.

>>103196740
Entry isn't about respect. Entry is about production.

>They value it because a fellow human made it.
Is that really true? People who jerked off to AI porn, versus porn made by artists, do they really care? Is it their fellow being's humanity that tingles their crotch? This is a very unpleasant topic for artists, and something they wouldn't admit even under duress - art DOES serve a function.

>>103196740
>They get no entry either way
AI art has already taken over porn and advertising.

>>103194933
I love how people act so confident about shit they know nothing about. If copyright were as simple as you retards think it is, the world would be a better place.

>>103195955
>gatekeepers
Nigga, no one ever could stop you from drawing and building a skill if you wanted to. You are just a lazy nigga.

>>103197017
>Is that really true? People who jerked off to AI porn
Yes, I have to filter all the shitty slop flooding pornsites, and I'm glad most have built a button to block all aislop from the get-go

>>103197401
I do the opposite. I can't stand how many human artists can't draw feet.

>>103197017
>>103197198
You can jerk off to your AI slop. I don't care. If that's what art means to you, enjoy it. If you want it as a product, consume it. I'm not talking about market value.
It doesn't mean the same thing to me as human made art and I think that's the case for a lot of people. Those people and me will go on to enjoy human art. If you don't even know what you're missing that's your loss.

>>103197338
>just become a gatekeeper yourself!
Are you going to deny that it takes a lot of time and practice to become an artist, while having to endure constant reminders that it is "not a real job", that will stop only when you present a paycheck?

Or are you going to bring up an already independently wealthy individual doing art as a hobby?

>>103197471
Are you aware you can do shit just for the sake of it, and not everything is about profits?

I hate artists so fucking much. They're all self-entitled narcissistic assholes

>>103197465
>It doesn't mean the same thing to me as human made art and I think that's the case for a lot of people.
Only reactionary retards that vote Trump and unironically think religion is making a comeback.

>>103197511
Most people today are too tired to even consume media that makes them think too hard. That's why it keeps getting dumber. And they still can barely afford to raise children.

>>103197511
You're talking to a soulless bugman. It's funnier to let them spiral.

>>103197511
Those aren't the people upset about AI art though, that's specifically the gatekeepers who wield the cultural power of art.

>>103197559
I'm neither religious nor do I support trump. I don't see the connection.

>>103197633
The connection is being a reactionary retard.

>>103197465
>me me me
This isn't about (you). This isn't a "different strokes for different folks" discussion. Nobody is asking you to like AI.

The environment around you is changing. Your perspective is on the way to become a minority. These are facts being discussed here. Don't be a petulant child that goes "meeee", then takes their ball and goes home.

>>103182198 (OP)
I have a very daunting confession to make.
As a professional coomer, I have coomed to Filian more than I have to Saurei.
The number of times is in the tens.
In fact, I can count the amount of times I have coomed to Saurei on one hand.
She is trying her hardest to be coomer bait, I understand her efforts, but one cannot force the sky to produce rain.
She has failed in my eyes, and I am sorry to say this, but I do not think anyone will miss her gooner art, even if it comes back.

>>103190445
1. Those sites have no requirement to tag uploads, and even if they have tags, artists are pretty bad about tagging their stuff. The tagging on the boorus makes it super easy to find something you're interested in, and filter stuff you don't want to see.

2. Artists often don't save their own work. I guess they see it the same way I see my loose leaf notes: just extra clutter to br tossed or something. Sometimes they get self-conscious of old stuff they did when they were amateurs and delete it. Sometimes they read a political headline and nuke eveything to move to a different platform (twitter and bluesky for example) without taking all the art they made with them.

3. Sites like twitter are focused on being a social engineering platform rather than an image platform. They mix all kinds of other things with search results and sometimes fuck with your results for who fucking knows why. If you find an artist you start to feel like you want to see more art from, you have to sort through every image they posted, which is often (ironically, in this thread) reposted memes, or photos of food or pets or whatever. Sites for artists (pixiv, deviantart, artstation, etc) are better, but again, they don't tag much, because it's extra work that's kind of tedious.

4. Those sites may not last. The boorus might not either, but afaik they can be backed up easier because each image isn't that much data, and their code is largely open source. A few years ago, I posted a jpg from Aoki Ume's old site, and fast-forward a few years and that site's gone as far as I can tell.

5. The images can come from wherever, or whenever, by whoever as long as they're on topic and tagged/sourced correctly. So if you find a goofy anime mascot on an old plastic model kit box in a museum, or a one-off scribble an artist did on a white board at a convention, or promotional art for an ad, you can snap a photo pr screenshot and upload those.

6. The boorus are focused on being archives, so you can see post and wiki revisions like tag history, user history, or history of sites listed for artists. So they're useful in sourcing stuff or finding artists, or finding art an artist didn't upload to all the sites they're on. I think saucenao and probably other reverse image searches often rely on the boorus as well.

7. AFAIK, the boorus are almost entirely ran by fans of whatever topic the booru is about, and most of the uploading and tagging is done by fans for free. So there's less of a corporate profit incentive to alter the goals of the site to other things in the future.

8. All of these things make the boorus a pretty useful anthropologic tool. You can look at what's been uploaded to them over the two decades of their existance and see shifts in what's been popular over the years.

>>103182198 (OP)
Just ban her.

vtubing and online communities in general literally exist because people share art. she's like a retarded boomer. funny how she speaks out against censorship while wanting platforms to police and micromanage every single aspect of their websites and remove everything that could possibly violate a ToS or hurt someone's feefees btw. the french living up to the stereotypes once again.

>>103197705
I don't see how you got this point being about me. As I said you can enjoy YOUR AI-slop in any way YOU want. I just think that it will never be appreciated that same way a human creation will. Human art is an impressive feat of an individual that AI art just isn't.

>>103190852
>lately

Ruh roh, look like other booru site owner are jumping in
https://x.com/gelbooru/status/1953237613206470801

>>103189913
His videos get more views than all of her VODs in a year ever get. HeavenlyFather has leeched off of Badger for years even before becoming a vtuber. Sigrid and Bird have also started leeching from him and now Saurei started.
He also has his own gamersupps flavor so he's an "in" for that to them.

>>103183689
Copyright is the exclusive right to profit from a particular work (not a particular trademark like a character), not the ability to control what people do with it or limit their ability to make their own art. You can only make a valid copyright claim against something that is your actual work you created, so you can't just go around taking down other people's drawings for containing your character. What you're actually claiming when you do this is that you drew it and this person falsely published the image as theirs (not the character, the image). They also have to be making money from it in some way, and it has to be impairing your ability to make money by competing against you, such as another channel uploading your VODs pretending to be you.

Again, what she's doing is asserting that she is the author of other people's work. She had someone write up a legal demand and signed her name to it, knowingly falsely. This is not your right to do at all, it's actually an abuse of the legal process and a crime. You are a retarded ESL who failed to understand the law you were trying to use, and the best excuse you can hope to make is that a law firm misled and scammed you. Nobody on the internet *doesn't* realize you're not supposed to do this, and the reason is not just related to your reputation, it's ILLEGAL.

>>103197703
How is that reactionary? That's like saying appreciating calligraphy despite the invention of the printing press makes you reactionary. I'm just stating what I appreciate not asking for a return to the past.

>>103197604
The people who "wield the cultural power of art" aren't even artists. They're curators and patrons. Art and culture has always been fucked up by industry, AI is just more of the same. There's no difference between the lazy garbage AIs produce and the lazy garbage nepobaby retards hock.