>one collab
>little lore drop
>friendship destroyed

Not my problem.

>>103227361
Dooby...

>>103227126 (OP)
the friendship died years ago, 2023 was apparently a weird inflection point for holoen

All the Avengers posters are just deflections from Gura Superiority, prove me wrong.

>>103227126 (OP)
I'll unblock her if she unfollows Nimi like Dooby did. Until then she's whore-adjacent and I won't watch her

>>103227126 (OP)
bad for business nothing personal

>>103227461
Weird I thought that year was their turning point for the better

>>103227527
That's where I'm at. She's as bad as Nimi until proven otherwise. I feel like Saba wanted 6 months to grift first like Nimi did, but Nimi announcing it so soon after Saba debuted fucked up her plans. Saba likely has a little lore drop of her own.

>>103227527
but here is the question, are you ready to forgive kronii if you aren't it means you were never really a fan

Little lore drop!
*Mindbreaks unicorns*

>>103227527
Based.

>>103227571
There are those who never recovered and moved past the cursed 2022-2023 era

>Nimi repeatedly mentioning over the years that she has a hard time reaching out for collabs
>let's just ignore it because unicuck need every anti crumb they can get

>>103227126 (OP)
Nimi fans are loyal as ever. They are outside the Holobox that drops their oshis on a whim.
Though the unrelenting hate campaign may have slowed new subscribers, it will not last.
Pretty sure, it was Nimi that told others to avoid the anti-drama. She's a grown woman and can handle it herself.
All will be back to normal, same as before.

>>103229275
Naplings still lost even if Nimi won

>>103229419
Both winning

>>103229419
I don't feel like I lost. She's streaming a lot and still funny.

>>103229700
You share her with twitter troon fans now

>>103229752
the same can be said for ERB, GG, CC, Kiara, Mori, Nerissa, Kronii, Shiori, Raora

>>103229796
None of them have fans who constantly bring up irl relationship shit

>>103229419
it was her vs her audience. the problem with fighting naplings is that they will immediately give up and then claim they were never opposed in the first place. I wonder for how long can they cope

>>103227126 (OP)
>>103227461
>>103227571
>>103227609
>anon rratted Ame hated Gura because of the Rust Arc
>anon rratted Gura hated Ame because she didn't say anything about Ame's graduation
>anon rratted Gura hated Fauna because she didn't anything about Fauna's graduation
>anon rrated Gura hated everyone because she left
>etc.
Please stop. And quit with the samefagging.

>>103229838
but the majority of their fans are tr00ns right?

>>103229838
Kiara just did

>>103227126 (OP)
I mean, they all probably knew about it.

>>103229838
How is that relevant to having Twitter troon fans? You're just reaching at this point.

>>103229700
cuck

trying to explain vtubers to people that are just casually weebs/otaku always results in hysterical laughter when you explain the concept of unicorns to them. imagine that even people that go to cons, collect anime blu rays, visit japan regularly, and are generally active in anime communities recoil with disgust when trying to parse what the fuck goes on here.

where did vtubing go so wrong? why do we enable delusional incel retards like OP?

>>103229893
Dooby said she didn't. Of course, she could be lying

>>103229893
dooby was explicit about them not knowing and not interacting with her off-stream
and it might be true, most holos only interact with each other off-stream because the company kind of forces them to be in the same spaces

left - married
right - 2 kids

>>103230037
Idols not being allowed to be in relationships is literally idol culture 101. It has nothing to do with "unicorns", that's not what unicorn means. Anyone who is an idol fan knows this. The people you're talking about are all normies so of course they wouldn't know anything about japanese culture

>>103230037
you are making stuff up, any otaku worth anything already knows about idol culture, so they should intuitively understand vtubing
here is one actually insane conviction I have: I don't trust people that go to cons because I assume they are using the hobby as an excuse to hook up

>>103230037
Stop trying to shove western whore culture down our hobby
Why do you have to invade a hobby you never liked in the first place and ruin it for the people who do?

>>103230037
>vtubing is bad because my normalfaggot friends laugh at u
You need to end your life ASAP
It's for your own good

>>103230014
Im sure your female streamer oshi is saving herself just for you, anon. How could she smell the pagpag breath and look at that 4 figure salary and not soak her panties?

>>103227633
Kronii has been forgiven to the point of overcorrection and now anons are sucking her dick 24/7

>>103230124
>Idols not being allowed to be in relationships is literally idol culture 101
Vtubers are not idols.
>b-b-bu Hololive!
None of these people are in Hololive anymore. Idols announcing marriage after graduating from idol work is also idol culture. Vtuber fans freaking out that a vtuber doesn't want their life to be defined by their career is what makes people call you cringe.

>>103230229
Wow you sure owned me. Now go watch Hasan or whatever you niggers watch these days and leave vtubing alone

>>103227126 (OP)
nimicucks

>>103227527
Based same

>>103230293
>Vtubers are not idols.
She literally had an idol concert weeks ago.

>>103230047
>>103230059
So let me get this straight. Saba and Dooby are so autistic that it never occurred to them to ask their good friend Nimi: "hey, how's it going? Anything new in your life"

To the point that Kiara, who was not even particularly close to Fauna or fond of her really, knew about the wedding months before them.

Holy shit. I knew they were spergy, but this is a whole different level. Not even I am so socially inept.

I guess they really don't have irl friends, huh?

I don't care if saba or dooby have relationships irl and they're hiding it. They're being professional about what they do and nimi ruined it all by tweeting because of whatever dumbshit reason.

I hope that vegan bitch stillborns her baby

>>103230390
Source on wawa knowing about the wedding before hand?

>>103230293
maybe but you were talking about explaining unicorn to otakus and that user pointed out that anyone familiar with idol culture shouldn't have much trouble understanding the concept. take anime for example, you can count the number of male character in any love live season with three fingers

>>103227609
>Saba likely has a little lore drop of her own.
We know the truth now after what happened on July 15th, but Saba will never announce anything. She has never been honest about anything in her entire life.

>>103230390
personally I don't ask my friends or coworkers about their relationships, it would feel inappropriate, it's just none of my business

>>103230437
She asked Fauna about her dream wedding on that one podcast she does. But no hard evidence that I know of

>>103230490
You also don't kiss your coworkers or sleep on the same bed.

>>103227126 (OP)
Sabberwocky is basically trying to run a business built on cunny and Mrs. "I'm the most important fucker in the universe" almost ruined it.

>>103230559
you are wrong

>>103227609
Why the fuck would she when she can farm her fans forever? Nimi is retarded and narcissistic, Saba knows the chumcucks will keep paying for the cunny.

>>103230443
What people are baffled by isn't the existence of "media that panders to lonely men" but that vtuber fans take it to another level of stalking the character's real life just to get mad when they find out she isn't a loser.
Anime, even non-idol anime, panders heavily to single childless young men, and that's to be expected. But you wouldn't watch an anime and then harass the seiyuu for getting married because you believed her role was real. Even idol otaku for the most part understand this. Most "real" idol otaku(ie people that go to concerts and aren't just gooning over gravure picsets) separate the idol from her real life and don't really want to dig outside of what she presents on screen.

The Nimi loredrop was dumb as fuck btw because it has nothing to do with her streaming. But going over vtuber dramas and telling friends "this girl was canceled for...having a boyfriend...or having a male voice on stream in the background...or having a menstruation calendar app on her phone..." just makes us look autistic as hell.

>>103230637
>the cunny that she went out of her way to censor

>>103230679
If you're worried about looking like an alpha gigachad to your tasteless friends then go play Call of Duty and fuck outta here.

>>103230679
>makes us look autistic as hell
YOU WATCH MIDDLE AGED WOMEN PRETEND TO BE ANIME GIRLS FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT OF MEN WHO JERK IT TO THEM. NORMAL PEOPLE WILL NEVER RESPECT YOU. PLEASE KILL YOURSELF AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE

>>103230679
and 20 years ago you would have told me that watching anime makes "us" look autistic as hell. and yet it moves

>>103230800
I was here 20 years ago(holy fuck this place has fallen so far) and /a/ was way less incelish. Watching anime meant something totally different than it does today.

But also we had better shows back then.

>>103230765
y-you mean people won't call me Chad Thundercock for watching an anime girl talk about boats going binted???

>>103230679
Then why do so many of them of hide the fact they have one? The fault lies on the streamer. They talk to these lonely men as if they are the same and can understand their pain and loneliness. They get popular under false pretenses. No one is watching women play video games because they want to see good gameplay.
They intentially lie about the circumstances of their life to garner support from people they know wouldn't support them if they knew the truth.
It's evil, and like with everything else, you blame the people who are suffering and desperate, who wanted more than anything to just be able to feel appreciated.
Sorry, but vtubing is not the same as watching a tv show. You do not spend hours of every day interacting with VAs who talk to you about their real life and tell you how much you matter to them when you watch a cartoon.

>>103230390
>their good friend Nimi
Dooby literally said that they don't talk much outside of streaming. They were never friends.

>>103227527
Unicorns on this board screaming wh*re at Nimi for getting married explain so much about why most of the EN branch hates idol culture.

>>103230124
>Idols not being allowed to be in relationships is literally idol culture 101.
Anon even Japanese anime like Oshi no Ko are openly condemning that side of idol culture. When it's considered misogynistic in Japan it's not that baffling on why the EN talents hate that Hololive has built so much of their business model on unicorns.

>>103230390
>To the point that Kiara, who was not even particularly close to Fauna or fond of her really, knew about the wedding months before them.
Kiara 100% did not know, and that wedding dress question is just a funny coincidence

>>103230917
>newfag lying

Kys

>>103230952
>Then why do so many of them of hide the fact they have one? The fault lies on the streamer.
Because it's not relevant to their character?
I do find it really annoying when they lie about being single or being forever alone just to seem relatable to their incel viewers(Shondo is evil btw). But if a vtuber never brings up their partner it's just pointless to speculate one way or the other. It's simply not something they want as part of their character identity and you should respect that.

who the fuck cares, nimi/fauna was always a fan and never a friend. gura and ame were always a couple who strung her along for public image sake

>>103230996
>most of the EN branch hates idol culture
I don't care. They shouldn't have joined a fucking idol company then.
>even Japanese anime like Oshi no Ko are openly condemning that side of idol culture.
Again, I don't care. Every country has race traitors

>>103230927
if you watch that one in particular they will (or they are fake friends)

>>103227609
this

>>103231062
yeah I remember all those collabs between ame and fauna. wait...

>>103227527
>if she unfollows Nimi like Dooby did
wait what? why did dooby do that?

>>103230390
I can buy them not knowing. saba ghosting people has been a known thimg for years and dooby iirc has had similar problems

>>103231062
Why do we give Dooby/Saba a pass for dating each other just because they're women but shit on Nimi for having a fiancee

>>103230252
>anons are sucking her dick 24/7
that's kinda hot

>>103231200
Because they're not dating each other. And if they are they don't talk about it so I don't care

>>103231165
She didn't tell. She just did it

>>103230917
then you didn't learn anything from the last 20 years of the world, in general, not just this site. normal people don't like what you do?
1. have fun
2. never apologize
3. double down
and eventually they will, you just have to keep pushing and be ruthless and they will fold, eventually they will not only accept it, they will try to emulate you (and ruin it for everyone, including themselves). it isn't even a physical task, you just have to be mentally strong

>>103230996
>explain so much about why most of the EN branch hates idol culture.
Not my problem.
Their audience is looking for idol culture so they can either put up or get lost.
>Anon even Japanese anime like Oshi no Ko are openly condemning that side of idol culture.
FOTM slop like Oshi no Ko is made by and for pseud teenagers who think they have the world figured out. Have you noticed that none of these shows "condemning" idol culture ever actually affect idol culture at all? Nobody cares about your shit except for people who already have a bias against idol culture.

>>103230037
You wouldnt allow your wife to have a boyfriend would you?People self insert as the MC and see them interacting with anime women. but thats not the same for streaming. Unicorns arent even unique to vtubing you fucking retard. female streamers and even onlyfans models deal with the same "issue" of their fanbase. the direct interaction with them makes it more GFE. thats why they cant have boyfriends or husbands, or of course, keep it hidden.

>>103230996
Do you not understand why Hololive is successful? The EN branch has all fallen off (In respects to their former glory and in relation to the JP side) though the only one who could compete with the middle to higher end JP talents was Gura.
Your definition of unicorn covers every single fan of idol culture and even most moderate fans of hololive. I wouldn't normally associate myself as a unicorn until bitches like you started popping up trying to preach about ethics/morals

>>103231274
The internet as a whole has only gotten worse in the last 20 years. More and more sites are bending the knee. 4chan is probably next whenever Hiro gets hit with a lawsuit over the newly changed privacy laws. Being stubborn isn't enough to maintain your way of life.

>>103231014
She hasn't asked anybody anything remotely similar.

>>103230996
I think it was more than unicorns considering the initial announcement got posted onto other boards

>>103231349
This post glows

>>103231027
>Because it's not relevant to their character?
That's bullshit, you lying cunt. These girls will talk about their life at end for hours and hours and tell you everything about themselves down to all their medical problems, insecurities, stories about their family members, what they studied in school, all the food they love and hate, when they're on their period, what race and nationality they are, and literally everything else about themselves EXCEPT the one thing they know that would maybe make some of their fans donate a little bit less.
Not a single person believes that convenient horse shit that it doesn't have to do with their character
Not even you. And it's because nothing else they talk about has to do with their character either.
I will never respect being dishonest or preying upon the loneliness of people who may be at a low point in their life.

>>103231200
They aren't dating each other. You should look up what people found out about Saba recently.

>>103230996
>EN branch hates idol culture.
Imagine joining a profession that you hate. EN was a mistake.

>>103230996
>En hates idol culture
Proof?

>>103231014
>Kiara 100% did not know, and that wedding dress question is just a funny coincidence
The Holotalk questions that Kiara asked Fauna and Gura both seem to indirectly hint at the reasons they left Hololive. Gura hinted that she wanted Yagoo to help other talents with their goals (Ina and Kronii have the obvious design issues) while the wedding dress question for Fauna now makes sense. Nimi Nightmare making her announcement confirms that the other talents knew about her marriage even in 2024.

>>103227126 (OP)
How many collabs did they at Hololive in 4yrs?

>>103230305
gonna cry?

>>103231621
I know for a fact that my sister is single and not dating anybody, so girls that are not interested in relationships do exist and your entire reasoning is extremely retarded and untrue.

>>103231658
Kill all doxxfags

>>103231658
>recently
lol. people have known she's been married for years now

>>103232045
I didn't want you to find out like this, but I'm dating your sister

Can somebody who genuinely believes Saba doesn't have a boyfriend explain how she is even alive? She doesn't live with her parents, right? Listen to how she talks and acts, you think she can take care of herself? I'm not even talking about some bad habits she seems genuinely retarded or drugged up, she sounded barely aware of her surroundings during that Nightreign collab

>>103231658
Spill the beans or fuck off

>>103232280
The fact that she sounds retarded has nothing to do with her ability to take care her of herself. This also works the other way around. For example, I sound and look normal and well adjusted, even intelligent, but would literally die if my mom kicked me out of the house

The Nimi/Saba relationship always seemed like work friends to me.
They held similar interests and felt they could easily talk to eachother.
It really isn't the same as Dooby/Saba which feels real white woman like Saba is possessive of her autistic dog and is always tongue kissing it.

>>103232391
Nimi/Saba seemed genuine to me. If they were not friends it's only because Saba is too autistic to have friends.
Nimi/Dooby, on the other hand. is (or was) 100% a business partnership

>>103232440
Nimi is just a normal person so the way she communicates about being friends sounds realistic and genuine.
Saba and Dooby are retards and every thing they do and say is weird and slightly off kilter.

>>103232630
>>103232440
Nimi is just a dumb normie who got the hololive golden ticket. Now she's done with the idol grift, she's going to farm the twitch normies for passive income. She would do flesh shit too if she could (she can't kek)

>>103230701
Most likely forced by Google to conform to their community guidelines. Doesnt make sense otherwise, like why debut with a dialed up loli model only to tone it down later on?

>>103231948
Hi outfitschizo

>>103227126 (OP)
>feet brown

>>103230037
Maybe because you don't even know what a unicorn is so they laugh at you.

>>103230390
You don't follow Dooby/Ame? Most of her online interactions are asking what to fix, how she can be helpful, etc. She doesn't care about your personal life, she just needs to know whether you have a problem or not.
The girl has a bigger hero complex than Shirou.

>>103233971
Can she help with my unsucked dick problem

>>103230390
Ok which is it you twittertroons is Saba a tomoko-level 4chan schizo autist or is she a secret gigastacy le gaymergrrrl

>>103232280
Can just pay a maid at home.

>>103234763
Neither she is a somewhat nerdy fairly retarded girl failure who wants to be Hatsune Miku.

>>103227126 (OP)
good, at least saba is smart

>>103230996
The fact that so many people responded seriously to outfitschizo without realizing that this is him shows the absolute state of this board

>>103230996
>wh*ore

You can say whore here, spineless faggot.

>>103232845
t.seething 2view

>>103230996
>the cool thing
>everyone enjoys the cool thing
>fatties want to get invole in the cool thing
>fatties take out the "cool" in the cool thing
>It's just "thing" now
>fatties get bored because "thing" is no longer cool
>nobody enjoys thing
>the thing is dead
hope this is easy enough for you to understand, mutt-kun

>>103230252
Never fall for, i don't even know what kronii fans are call, propaganda.

>one bowl of pagpag
>little lore drop
>OP's mind destroyed

>>103227126 (OP)
She's smart. One of the smartest in the industry. That's why she's the best. It's lonely on the top. The news kind of affected her too, and I'll gladly help with that, offstream of course

>>103231014
it's sad just how clear it is that the majority of anons here don't interact with women. this is exactly the kind of bitchy sniping women do.

>>103227126 (OP)
Anyone have context this schizo thinks we already know?

>>103234025
Silly anon, she can't suck a dick you don't have

>>103230037
Someone please inform this anon as to how Love Live fans reacted when they collabed with Granblue Fantasy.

All Vtubers are in a close relation with their fans
All Vtubers are in a silent contract with their fans
Vtubers provide happiness, fans provide support, simple as.
Vtubers must hold the kayfabe to it's highest standard.
Vtubers must toss aside their politics, controversies and "hot takes"
Vtubers must keep hidden their personal life as much as possible
Anyone who violates the contract is scum

Fuck whores
Fuck male collabers
Fuck "male" vtubers
Fuck Holostars
Fuck HoloID
Fuck Nijishit
Fuck "lore drops"

>>103231349
Being stubborn is better than going quietly. The harder you try to get 100% acceptance, the more costly it is.

>>103230917
Get back to the retirement home boomer why are you lurking a kids website creep

>>103230917
Hello there fellow time traveler!

>>103232045
NTA but this. In the USA, 32% of women 18-29 are single, 21% from 30-40. Statistically it is extremely possible for one to be a Holo. That doesn't mean they're all pure virgins either, many are party girls many are divorced etc. but the point stands, it is not literally 100% of all girls are fucking daily, that's ranting chudcel thinking.

You might go >only the uggos aren't fucking daily and yeah. The whole vtuber thing changed that impression where your mind regards them as superhumanly cute/hot. In reality, they often are not.

>>103230037
t. retard who thinks unicorn is a literal term and not figurative
Nobody, NOBODY thinks these girls are pure virgins unless they are some naive teenage dweeb from a deeply religious family or something. Nobody thinks they're going to actually meet and fuck these girls either, not for big stars like Holos. The people who want to go groom chuubas go find 1views and 2views and actually do succeed sometimes and they are not even in this conversation about Holos.

>>103244386
At this point it's just performative.
I refuse to believe people that mentally ill exist.

>>103230679
You huge faggot, the so called unicorns aren't the ones stalking anyone. The "people" who stalk these streamers are literally trying to fight a fucking psychological culture war with not only the vtuber fandom but also trying to actively destroy vtubing as a whole. They do so, then get information and shove it into people's faces to cause streamers to lose viewership and their income. They mask themselves by claiming they are the very people they are trying to drive away in order to destroy the hobby. I can't believe you and so many other people are so fucking stupid to not understand what's going on right in your stupid face.
And then you get vtubers to openly do shit that causes them to lose viewership and money because they are too fucking dense and stupid to stop and think for two fucking seconds as to what the entire industry is about. Its not about playing partner simulator, its about escaping our shitty lives for a few hours a day and not having to think about our god awful worldstate. Everything is shit, we need a break. And these "people" want to yet again push the people who just want an escape out of that and force them to be depressed and want to kill themselves. People like you are pushing for the dissolution of vtubing as a whole.
If there's a vtuber reading this, please share this information with anyone you contact that is a vtuber, and ask them to also spread this message to others. These faggots want to not only to destroy your fun but also your livelihood if you're big enough. Don't fucking denounce them either, they like attention in public. Instead what you should do is keep your online life and personal life separate and not mix them. If you want to share real life with your audience, stop and think of what would happen more than one day ahead, think about how it will change the entire course of your vtubing career.

>>103244971
It's just vtuber Darwinism. Let the retarded ethots out themselves, makes it easier to find the good ones. And yes there are still plenty of good vtubers out there despite the narrative pushed /here/, you just don't hear about them much because their fans stick to themselves and the catalogshitters only spam dramaslop to fuel the "culturewar" as you call it. Just find a good girl and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing, you will be much happier that way, trust

>>103244971
I guess I was wrong. Go outside before you hurt someone

>>103247869
Until that good girl gets a boyfriend. Then ypu spend the next 8 years harassing them for "lying"

>>103247869
Always topical

>>103247912
I'll harass your moms anus

>>103242035

>>103242035
>They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>103247912
If she wants to date she should retire. It's literally that easy. Something something cake something something eat it too

>>103249228
Utterly retarded, at no point did she ever have any obligation to feed your delusions.

>>103227126 (OP)
I've never cared much about gorb gwarbus or interpersonal drama one way or the other but if she actually ghosts Nimi over this her mental illness is an order of magnitude greater than I imagined

>>103244971
>Calls people retarded while biting the blatant bait

>>103227126 (OP)
Little lore drop destroyed the cuckvengers

>>103250178
Good little cuck. I'm you'll get a lot of pussy, just don't forget to post BLM, free Palestine, or whatever the current humiliation ritual is

>>103230037
>why do we enable delusional incel retards like OP?
Because broke bitches like you aren’t the ones keeping your favourite from putting fries in the bag

>>103227126 (OP)
Idk if I'm alone in this but ever since this wave of HoloEN graduations (Amelia -> Gura) I just stopped investing in the friendships of these girls because it became apparent that outside of the really obvious ones (Kronii/Kaela and CC/GG come to mind), they're all just coworkers that have to pretend to get along because of their job. No matter how good their chemistry is or how much they collab/offcollab. Krofau was my favorite pair for so long and it just disintegrated. Even worse it reeks of bad blood. Just completely left me jaded about ships and whatnot.

>>103251556
they're coworkers first and foremost, business yuri is part of the job description. plus, anyone who's worked a job with multiple female coworkers already realized this. women (especially to other women) turn it into some crazy passive aggressive game of thrones shit with shifting alliances, betrayals and a shit-ton of bullying.

>>103227126 (OP)
get fucked, nimigrifter