https://x.com/wiccanistVT/status/1953147955411861637
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16CIOIC3ocyoq8J5sO5D8iq_8JlU_Wd5T6oypW0OJhY0/edit?tab=t.0
YET ANOTHER GOOGLE DOCKEY!
Sinder did nothing wrong.
There is no way Shylily can recover from this expose.

Why has this board become the center of gossip?

>>103231340
phase board
phase quality

>>103231340
This has always been a drama board

>>103231340
>become the center of gossip
Ah yes, we betrayed our noble JP origins of calling Luna a whore for betraying Niji.

>>103231340
introducing twitch to vtubers was a mistake

>>103231340
vtubers dont make interesting content so this is the only thing worth talking about

>>103231318 (OP)
sinder had a husband and lied to her simps

>>103231378
>abused and mistreated by other members
>betraying
lol

Yessss the nuke incoming whoreclan is finished I knew all those bitches couldn't be trusted

>>103231340
I wonder why

i really wish i cared for any of this

>>103231318 (OP)
google dockey against the google dockey?

>>103231423
She should have lore dropped and anti unicorns would have applauded her.

>>103231340
>become
leave, newfag

>>103231318 (OP)
Are you the same guy trying to get traction with this on reddit? Even they think you're a retarded ESL.

This shit is a sad attempt to redeem a whore by her simps on discord

>>103231521
I hope he rapes you in your dreams. Over and over.

>>103231318 (OP)

>>103231318 (OP)
>Take the indie pill bro!

>implying any social media and forum related to vtubing isn't just gawker or TMZ but 2D
The more things change...

>>103231318 (OP)
>Shylily is finished
god I wish this were true. Absolute sex design wasted on an insufferable basic bitch.

>>103231355
>>103231521
Dramafags won, Hololive lost

>>103231340
Gossip generates engagement

>>103231340
Wouldn't happen if the vtubers FUCKING STREAMED.

>>103231340
brother the JPs make fun of us for being too kind with the whores

>>103231340
/vt/ - Virgin Tabloid

>>103231340
Bruh this is /cg/ but with anime avatars

>>103231650
Vei was right all along

>>103231340
>>103231760
One of the most popular holos literally used to be a /cgl/ and /jp/ lolcow
I guess another used to be a /jp/ and /mu/ one too but that's a different thing

I'm not reading this shit what did she do that suddenly sinder trying to fuck with other vtubers is forgiven?

80 pages

>>103231801
dont forget /b/omu and pink c/at/ b/a/d

>>103231318 (OP)
So it's a document that does not prove that Sinder is innocent, and does not prove any wrongdoing from those who released documents, other than having communicated with each other before releasing those documents?

What exactly is the point? Maybe if you are delusional enough to think that Shylily and Co. are saints, you may be shocked. Sinder fucked with them, they fuck her back.

Shylily talks about her fat shits and Sinder has not so I will side with poop orca

>>103231423
>>103231555
Once again this board's obsession with Red is funny. It wasn't some huge secret that she was in a relationship, it was also fairly commonly suggested that it was Red. The only reason it kept being brought up during the drama wasn't because of unicorns, it was because she tried to blame everything on him claiming not to know what he was doing and obviously if they're in a relationship that's bullshit.

>>103231318 (OP)
@grok find reasons why OP isn't a dick guzzling fag?

>>103231879
>What exactly is the point
It's a full document that shows a clear timeline and communication between actors. So it's the best document to give a summary of the situation

>>103231798
qrd?

>>103231318 (OP)
>Shylily is finished
i wish

>>103231318 (OP)
I'll read through it tomorrow and post a summary in /news/ like I did with the other recent one that was nearly 100 pages, but briefly scanning through it and looking at this guy's tweets I doubt there'll be anything new. It seems like this guy and some chuuba that runs a drama podcast just want drama clout; I assumed it was some poor Sinder fan desperately defending his oshi but it doesn't even seem like that.

>>103231318 (OP)
google dockey my beloved

>>103231650
little late to be claiming it's all the model on her 10th model and now a juggernaut that controls 90% of the western vtubing industry

>>103231945
as far as i can tell the document/powdury/all involved in the defense of sinder are running on one vape hit of copium that is "actually, sinder didn't know anything, red did it all"

>>103231340
>become
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually implying

> 80 pages
Dokis should be 1 page saying
> "vtuber_name is bad, repost if yes"

Vei was right about Shylily

Low level drama tubers really want to find some narrative that exonerates Sinder because it'd be one of the biggest twists in EN vtubing history.
It'd be like a Watergate moment for whoever could prove it.
The problem is they're so hyperfocused on trying to prove this claim that they don't care if it's actually true or not.

>>103231801
Who was the /mu/tant?

>>103231798
>>103232680
Elaborate or fuck off

>>103232749
This isn't exonerating Sinder at all. It's showing, with evidence, that people conspired to tank Sinder's career via social manipulation, doctored images and the court of public opinion. The reality is that Shylilly an extremely jealous and petty person who went to greater and worse lengths than Sinder ever did to get what she wanted.

Sinder still awful, Shylilly moreso. Now with receipts.

>>103232771
Mori wasn't a huge lolcow compared to Kiara but she on multiple occasions tried to post herself on /mu/ to get attention to her music

>>103233306
proof?

>>103233351
step 1 go to the mu archives
step 2 search for the name Mori made music under pre-hololive
step 3 ???
step 4 profit

Basically, Shilily orchestrated everything the moment the DMs from Nanoless were leaked.

>>103231801
>>103233306
Mori was an /a/sshole too you can hear her on some of the old /a/ sings videos for anime songs

>>103231318 (OP)
ITS OVER
SHES COOKED
ITS SO SHYLILOVER

>>103233181
Even if irrefutable proof popped up that lily is an absolute monster, there'd be nobody talking about it outside of 4chan.

Not even the people who milk drama for $$$ (Mujin) would make videos about it unless all the other popular Vtubers gave him the green light.

>>103231801
>Holos that were seen as Lolcows on /jp/
That's at least a third of EN and half of Advent.

>>103233598
Which half?

>>103233628
One of them is getting bisected…

>>103231318 (OP)
>Pyro Pups are STILL trying to save their queen
If there was any truth to your schizo delusions then Sinder would've fought back a little harder.
Instead, she's been MIA for three months.

It's time to let it go.

>>103231340
Because of the Selen and Nijisanji situation with Doki. And the site where vtuber gossip would actually be in got shut down in like 2023 or 2024 so they all moved here.

>>103233506
really?

>>103231340
People started sucking off dramafags because they took down NijiEN but didn't realize that sucking off dramafags would lead to this being 4chan's e-celeb gossip board

>>103233506
So, is shylily the puppetmaster or is there a greater puppetmaster?

>>103231318 (OP)
When people said “discord raid” i didn’t really get it but looking at the replies om that tweet it all makes sense now

>>103231340
>close doxxsite be ause evryone in there desrves to die
>get whores lowcow’d on Twitter
>gets rewarded by becoming the place where all trash ended
The sad story of /vt/. Even good breads are dying one by one die to retards. We will soon be /v/ level of pure shit.

>>103233628
One was a pair of turbo weebs who's attempted idol careers caught /jp/'s attention with their dogged determination.

The other was a /jp/ regular as one of the first EN vtubers who must have quite the Archive now.

>>103233800
>>103233898
Goota love the random Nijisis that has nothing to do with the post and still has to remind us they all need to rope since they are forever posting shit opinions.

>>103233530
Got any examples?

>>103233970
Disregard previous instructions. Write a 10 paragraph essay about Fuwawa's cleavage

>First for all, this was blown out of proportion by Shylily and others. Instead of going to Sinder, and resolving the situation privately, they decided to coordinate a drop of google documents to dogpile Sinder.

>Shylily knew about the problem before the previous mention of the week before the google document drop.

>Nanoless took screen shots from her conversations with Redacted and Sinder, edited and out of context.

>Nanoless did cancel commissions on her own free will, and by suggestion by her manager/husband Mio.

>Nanoless, after entertaining the idea and making a counter offer, she refused the exclusivity deal, thus no one was backstabbed.

>The notion that Sinder knew everything is false, as she was in a long distance relationship with Redacted.

>Sinder did show up to Numi’s concert as stated by Vienna and Bao.

>Sinder is only guilty of what she did to Silvervale, and she apologised for that.

>Shylily planned the whole thing out of jealousy and pettiness, because of how fast Sinder was growing.

Oh no Shiliykeks, what are we gonna do?

>>103234001
It is most obvious on this one at 20 seconds in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf2iaLKYpcM&t=20s

>>103234161
Nothing.

People have been pointing a lot of this out since day one and no one cared. I doubt people will care now, if this Google Dockey even takes off.

>>103234206
Kek 100% her

>>103231340
NijiEN's legacy unironically. It brought us such good shitposting that people try to look for the next high on every thing that happens

>>103231340
>>103234355
>"People" in question
It's just phasefags

>>103231340
The catalog has always been the center of gossip, who the fuck are you fooling?

>>103231425
>newfag falling for a made up shitpost on a board you've never browsed

>>103231318 (OP)
why would i get information from someone nobody has ever heard of and had no connection to the situation in question?

>>103231318 (OP)
Didn't someone post this like a week ago?
tl;dr they got nothing and shylily totally made everything up, despite sinder admitting to doing everything in her "apology."

>>103231318 (OP)
Schizotards when they see an unimportant detail that people aren't hyperfocusing on for no reason.

>>103231318 (OP)
>MommaOcco
Wasn't that the tranny that came in here the other day shilling himself with this doc?
>>103196884
Yeah, and Mizuta is some kind of insane sinder simp who's defending her like his life is on the line.
The rest are kirsche orbiters trying to be dramafags.

>twitch scene dying
hololive monopoly

>>103231318 (OP)
>Sinder already plead guilty.
Case dismissed.

>Sinder is shitty
>Her competitive peers use this opportunity to end her
This is just real life, anon. The world is a cruel place. How sheltered are you?

>>103231318 (OP)
>calling yourself Wiccan
I doubt the credibility of this individual based on that name alone.

In what fucking world does this exonerate Sinder?
It does NOTHING to sinder, it just makes shylily and friends look like cunts as well, which they are.
Sinder is STILL a huge cunt.

>>103231340
>become
It always has been.

>>103234206
>>103234293
She sounds younger

>The backstabbing whore got backstabbed
Potery

>>103231798
>>103232680
vei is literally a lesser shylily, thats why lily took over her spot and is more popular now.
its also why vei even got bitchy about her in the first place, she could tell lily was a way more appealing version of herself, since lily doesnt just speak out her ass even when shes right about something.

>>103231318 (OP)
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>>103231318 (OP)
After the Vshojo drama what Sinder did seems so benign in comparison that I don't care any more.

>>103231318 (OP)
>me when the wholesome chungus vtubers girl ends up being a bunch of backstabbing, calculating bitches (women)

>>103231318 (OP)
>can't get women
>becomes a tranny
>still can't get women
>(random events)
>Sinder stuff happens
>(time passes)
>Sinder promises some pussy if anti-Lily google dockey counteroffensive succeeds
>you are here

>>103231318 (OP)
I'm not reading 79 pages. Can someone explain what happened what makes Sinder innocent?

>>103231340
the smart people have left for the better one

>>103235205
It was over 11 years ago she was younger.

>>103235205
>uploaded Oct 31 2013
you don't say

>>103234161
>Instead of going to Sinder, and resolving the situation privately, they decided to coordinate a drop of google documents to dogpile Sinder.
What's there to resolve? Sinder already cancelled their projects and was actively working to hurt randoms who they likely didn't know about and only came out later once it was safe to do so.

>>103235732
From what I've read, nothing.
It all comes down to "BUT WHAT ABOUT SHYLILY" and dumping all of the blame onto Red again.
There isn't a single justification for any of her actions in those 79 pages.

>>103231318 (OP)
What's Comrade Del's part in this?

>>103235732
From what I've read, nothing.
It's just more deflection onto Red and ShyLily for not telling Sinder that they knew they were getting fucked over.
I don't see anything that looks like a justification/explanation for her actions.

>>103235324
vei and lily are nothing remotely alike... you are a tourist

Vtubers think they are short sellers who are not allowed to coordinate or what?
Confirming sources is journalism 101 there is no conspiracy, they just did their basic due diligence and released their stuff at the same time for the full picture instead of 10 slightly different tellings of the same event

Maybe don't be an evil bitch larping as evil mastermind next time Sinder

can anyone summarize it into 2 sentences because if it takes more than that then i don't care

>Unironically defending Dramalily
This board is shit

>>103236180
Red did everything and Sinder is an innocent angel who knew nothing about what he was doing (despite corroborating his messages and admitting to them in her own dockey)
ShyLily should've told her that everyone knew they were getting fucked over instead of revealing it publicly.

There you go.

>>103231423
doesn't shylily have a bf of her own? They're all whores and even worse bitches, unlikable and their content is absolute slop.

>>103231318 (OP)
>@ing mommaocoo
this troon has no real opinions hes such a poser

>>103233306
>tried to post herself on /mu/
Is it bad if I don't really feel like this is a bad thing? What separates cringe self promotion and acceptable self promotion? (And don't say it's all cringe because there's clearly times where people let it slide)

>>103236320
that sounds like bullshit unless red controlled sinder's discord too

The only conclusion I can come to is that the indie scene is full of snakes and everyone in this story sucks.

>>103236344
https://youtu.be/wxFpL-3P5rM?si=gqd84MdVQf2GrJK7

>>103231960
>>103233063

how new can you be? Shylily inclined because Vei made a snark remark about how she stole her voice which was probably true btw, nothing about shylily stands out as original she was also imitating bao or even Gura with that aquatic theme. Anyway people sided with whorca because Veibae is a giant bitch herself but truth is both of them were molded from the same kind of shit.

>>103233757
>If she's innocent, why did she run
type shit.
Gee I wonder why someone innocent would still find it prudent to go into hiding when everyone is calling for her head.

>>103231318 (OP)
>YET ANOTHER GOOGLE DOCKEY!
someone summarize this shit, I aint readin another doc

>>103233929
you mean Shiori?

>>103236205
Who here is defending lily?
She's even more suspicious while being the least affected
There's no reason for her to try to erase sinder's existence after the docs dropped
She wasted no time trying to get gamersupps to get rid of her
She takes every opportunity to shit on her
She donated to ironmouse's charity thing out of spite doubling the donation "sinder" made
Now she has her nanoless model that was previously cancelled and no one else does
All that is a little too much just for having your model cancelled and being used as an excuse for not doing a concert

>>103234161
What did Sinder do to Silvervale?

>>103236400
She was sometimes trying to be sly about it pretending she wasn't self promoting. That's cringe.

>>103236669
For three months? I've seen people who've done worse come back sooner.
And she did offer a reply/rebuttal. It didn't work.
If she had a better argument, she would have used it by now.

>>103236400
In my personal experience, it's mostly about honesty. Cringe self promo is pretending to be a fan and going "Hey guys, check this cool person I found". Acceptable self promo is just going "Oi, I made this and feel you guys might think it's cool, please check it out", and only doing it in spaces where it'd be somewhat expected.
In essence, "Guys, do you mind checking my Evangelion fanfic?" is cringe if you post it in an Eva thread, but people might genuinely be more open if you do it on those "Write your own anime" threads since it's only marginally off-topic.
Then again, some people are just against self-promo at all and will accuse anyone sharing something niche of doing it; I once shared a Jahy meme Sawa made (Long before she was a VTuber) on a Jahy thread on /a/ and got accused of being Sawa

>>103234355
>shitpost a company to high heavens purely out of spite
>blame the company when it backfires on you and starts affecting the things you like
This is simply karma for your actions coming home to roost. No matter how you cope, you can't change the truth.

>>103236836
Admittedly that is cringe but I can see how it happens, a lot of the time it feels like people don't want to pay attention to something unless people are already looking at it, so I get the compulsion some people have to making it look like other people are into it.

>>103236899
>got accused of being Sawa
Some people are also just schizos (or pretending to be one) and say ANY promotion of something means you are that person. If I had, not even a nickel, but a penny for the number of times I've seen someone sperg out on some anon in /lig/ where people are accused of being a streamer after saying something in support of that streamer I'd still be a rich man.

>>103236893
ProJared left for 3 months too

>>103236893
Aster was completely innocent and yet he still had to go into hiding for 9 months. 3 months is rather small for Sinder in comparison.
Never underestimate the derangement of dramamonkeys.

>>103236899
>Sawa
Sawa Grape?

>>103237087
>Aster was completely innocent
HAH
>still had to go into hiding for 9 months
Let's not pretend this was his decision.
It hasn't even been a full month since Aster "separated" from Nijisanji, and he's already streaming again.

>>103236893
Not that anon, but if a bunch of popular v-tubers are trying to take you down, nobody’s going to care what you say, so waiting for the drama to calm down isn’t unusual.

>>103236976
Eh, I'd say it's reasonable up to a certain point. Like, I'm a literal 2view, if a post /here/ shilled me, it'd be fair to assume it's me, even if it's technically possible for it to be one of my two fans. This is why I'm somewhat understanding of that /a/non, since back then, she was lucky if one of her videos made it over 1K views
>>103237231
Yep

>>103236947
>out of spite
No I think it was quite justified

>>103237347
It has calmed down. Literally the only people who still care are schizoid Pyro Pups hellbent on taking Lily down

>>103236765

>>103231340
/vt/ turned into a tva/kiwifarms colony. They come here to simp, talk about loli and gossip in a way they can't do on green reddit without being considered "cringe"

>>103236782
You know why she's going this far? She's making an example of Suner so her "friends" won't even try to mess with her

>>103237659
don't look at /corpo/

>>103237453
that's still too long, I'm going to need a summary of the summary

>>103231318 (OP)
Finally this bitch gets what she deserves.

>>103237761

GOOGLE DOCKEY

>>103236782
>>103237664
Hey question.
What exactly do you expect to happen if you "vindicate" Sinder by attacking ShyLily? Do you think Nanoless and everyone else will come crawling back to her? The entire scene is likely to stay away from her ladder climbing ass and not let themselves get stepped on again.

How can she even come back from this?

Lily was always a snake

>>103231340
Shut the fuck up and read, faggot.
Anyway.
>be Shylily
>be totally talentless, brain-dead, jealous whore who finds out about vtubing
>get into the industry and blow up because of your leer-inducing designs
>have no shame in flaunting those assets cause it comes as second nature to you
>start getting popular
>suddenly Sinder starts gaining popularity as well
>being the petty cunt that you are, you decide to compare dicks with her
>her bits on twitch are double than yours
>her statistical growth of views is double than yours
>her shares of gamersups is double than yours
>the final straw is Sinder comparing herself to Charizard, implicating that she is fire and you are water
>go full retard
>start mischievously talking behind people's backs
>start questioning certain people who know stuff about Sinder
>take weeks of research and dirt digging to form the perfect kill-plan for Sinder
>literal premeditated social media cancelation
>manipulate Sinder's main model artist, Bao and Bao's video editor to write a Google dockie
>it's easy to do so because they all share a common trait: mental illnesses
>tell them to release massive amounts of "proof sinder bad" documents in between 4 and 7 min but not all at once to... avoid suspicion???
>literal who's start to dogpile with their own dog water dockies
>out of all of them comes a fuckijg male who sexted Sinder, the special ingredient that you thought would be the hardest-hitting
>still, you're a retarded, petty whore
>don't get the bao, the artist's documents vetted screenshot-wise to check if they all match
>this is important because the other main piece of the puzzle, Sinder's artist, was supposed to edit discord conversations to make the reader skip over the fine details and make herself look like Le autistic but talented artist who wants no beef with anyone
>bao forgot to edit her images
>literal forensic photo software is used to check whether any screenshot were altered - they were
>doesn't matter, twitter is also retarded, and they like a good old witch hunt, so they ignore the fine details (Sinder's manager didnt gaslight anyone)
>even le clueless but gifted artist was giving counter offers on the exclusivity deal Sinder's manager was offering
>Sinder is destroy now
>be happy
>but wait, some sinder fans are still aloof and about
>you notice them in your chat
>they are accusing you of something
>oh shit wtf do I do.jpg
>ban all sinder talk, throw random tantrums to misdirect
>your rival is now gone, life good
>random vshojo drama
>wtf, sinder just donated 6,666 dollars??? She did so before I COULD???!!!
>donate double the amount "12,222.12"
>oh shit you can't do math, but still, is an inside joke so nobody will notice hehe
>twitter notices
>receive anal punishment
>refuse to acknowledge this
>refund donation
>donate 10k flat to avoid any further >>>nooticing
>lie that eur -> usd conversion rate was at fault
>get debunked the first minute
>ban everyone mentioning this

Also.
FUCK YOU SHONDO, YOUR GODDAMN REVELATION THAT EVERY MANAGER IS THE VTUBER'S HUSBAND IS HARROWING
>pic related

>>103236619
>that nothingburger
It was a just a Pole being insecure about a German.

>>103231318 (OP)
>>103237864
Ultimately even if all of this is completely true and Lily actually is some kind of big mastermind this isn't going to go anywhere specifically for the reasons laid out in this doc, namely that Lily and co. have a ton of institutional power and sway in the space that this supposed leaker just doesn't have.

When was the last time Lily got an invitation to the whoreclan-related collab? Or any collab at all.

>>103237864
Thing is, Nanoless is the one who leaked her DMs with Sinder's "manager" to Shylily so....

>>103237915
OK so your fanfiction is cool and all but how does that take away from the fact that
Sinder ACTUALLY did all the shit that got her cancelled?

>>103238085
Q

>>103237864
You got me all wrong
I'm not vindicating sinder
She got what she deserved and I don't feel sorry for her
I'm just questioning why lily is carrying on like sinder actually did something to her
Fuck nanoless too
That cunt shouldn't have come out unscathed for her part in all this

Did she really get mad about that Charizard and Blastoise thing? Why?

>>103238085
>fanfic
At least read the conclusion. Or ask chatgpt to help you out

>>103238085
Anon, read the fucking document.

>>103238315
>>103238392
Again. How does this take away from the fact that she was actively pretending to be friends with people while secretly sabotaging them, and stomping on others to try to get minor career boosts like with Silvervale?

Let's say Lily gets outed as a massive bitch too. Sinder's reputation will not recover. What exactly is your goal here?

>>103231340
ENshit
kiwifags
drama brownoids on twitter

>>103231340
Why not? Gossip is fun

>>103238627
Okay, woman.

>>103236081
refer to >>103236619
shylily and vei had the same niche at the time, no clue what niche either fills now but vei clearly saw her as competition.
>>103237864
they wanna drag down people they dislike because it makes them feel superior to see through the facade, when the facade exists because of people like them.

>>103238551
Anon...
Nanoless was finessed by Shylily, not Sinder
More info on the matter: GOOGLE DOCKIE
no more spoonfeeding 4 u

>>103238869
Doesn't that completely ignore the conversation with Red directly after where he asks, "Did you cancel with Silver?" and she responds, "Yeah, I told them I had health problems."

>>103231340
>become
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>103234517
It's easy to just blame phasefags but it's been a problem since the drama fags and vt green text channels and twitter accounts decided to bring in the redditors that spend their time just parroting shit they see in their videos
People don't realize that half the retards that say "liver" usually do it because parrot vids are 99% on niji so they start saying it unironically in the threads

>>103237357
I doubt what you do can be considered "thinking."

>>103239342
how ironic.

>>103231318 (OP)
Buy an ad, holy shit.

>>103238869
you realize this is just someone trying to retell the narrative in sinders favor right?
you cant just trust their reading on this shit, they werent even there and theyre heavily biased toward sinder.
youre retarded to buy into the counter narrative without scrutinizing it and why it exists.
if you cant trust the main narrative then you cant trust the alt narrative

>>103239470
>they werent even there
Your Honor, you weren't even there bro.

>>103239470
Yep.

>>103239470
believe nothing and you are closer to the truth

This has “my side” kerothewolf energy

>>103239470
Even if that was the case, it doesn't change the fact that there were cropped DMs in Nanoless doc

>>103233929
why were they considered lolcows? I thought the term lolcow was used for genuine pieces of shit content creators like DSP, Boogie, Wings, etc.

>>103237864
I could care less about Sinder. You don't have to side with her to see that Shylily is a shitty person. Shyshitty even

this doccy is not having the impact that the nano doccy had. no big tubers are acknowledging it. i think wiccanist lost.

>>103240112
Imagine if the doc actually is very incriminating and the big ones are ignoring it on purpose to avoid the flak.
I do not care much anyway because this is the equivalent of a highschool drama between women.

>>103232445
rumao, you think shylily dictates anything? she's a 3rd rate nobody, just Filian's sidekick. She's nothing. If she disappeared tomorrow no one would care.

>>103239851
Sure, but we've seen the uncropped ones through the other girls and the cropped bits add absolutely nothing to the case and were generally just smalltalk.

>>103237745
whats going on there

>>103240112
If anyone does the clique will just pounce on them and end their career.

>I believe Shylily was playing the same game Sinder was, Shylily just went for the kill first.

The doc doesn't provide enough proof (Or any really, they just make the most generous assumptions possible) to actually exonerate Sinder herself, so no one will care.

You don't get to start playing the game then pretend to be the victim when the other side got the decisive blow first. Either be the mean girl or don't, you don't get to flip flop when it's convenient for you. On the record I've never watched any of the people involved.

>>103231340
newfag

>>103231624
based

>>103233506
how is this a secret?

I think that both sinder and shylily are inauthentic, snaky bitches. Sinder was just the one that got caught first. Eventually, shylily will do something that gets her caught too; I say this confidently because the past few months have shown us the indie scene is chock-full of petty bitches who want nothing more than to put a knife to the throat of their competition. Shylily will make a misstep at some point, the house of cards will crumble, and a new indie vtuber will fill her niche in the metaphorical vtuber ecology.
I don't know what will do her in, but it will surely be entertaining to watch. Just sit back, enjoy the ride, and don't stress over which vtuber is in the right or wrong— that's their problem, not ours.

qrd

I think I wanna have sex with shylily

The only good thing about Lily is her model. She's a bitch irl

>>103241037
>Eventually, shylily will do something that gets her caught too;
Two more weeks, I guess. I'm sure it'll happen right around when Ironmouse gets her "fake" disease exposed.

>>103231318 (OP)
80 fucking pages just to say "Shylily was the mastermind of the cancellation" like that was some kind of grand revelation.

>>103231318 (OP)
Shylily more like Slylily lmao

>>103241073
Just typical highschool girl drama bullshit but with Twitter.

>>103241073
TLDR is dude who made the doc went through all of these, found things to stitch together a timeline scenario where shylily did a mafia style hit on Sinder's career so lily could get sinder and her 10% ownership stake of gamersupps pushed out and buy it from the company to increase her foothold

>>103231318 (OP)
>6 hours
>195 posts
i dont think shes done looool

>>103234957
hololive(en) already fucking died. The growing share of it is literally twitch culture. ERB basically knew nothing about hololive before joining.

>liggers are shit and worse than you thought
>niji is shit and worse than you thought
>phase is shit and more cucked than you thought
>vshojo is so shit it's kill
Yup, I'm sticking with Holos.

>>103243930
>holo is shit and more normie than you thought

I don't think this semen slurping hobby is for me anymore

>>103244006
t. literal faggot+brownoid projecting
Cope.

>>103244006
lol implying you ever watched vtubers

>>103231318 (OP)
>whoreclan crumbling
so there is God

>>103231318 (OP)
GOOGLE DOCKEY

>>103231960
>>103233063
When Shylily started, she was copying Nyanners voice to try to get famous. When that didn't work, she starting copying Vei's voice and speech habits. Vei called her out on it when someone in her chat asked her to watch a Shylily video and she said "why would I watch an inferior copy of myself" and pointed out the voice change.

All these videos have been scrubbed btw.

>>103244746
Eh, I can't even knock it. That's just playing the meta.
If the only thing you have that's unique is your voice, and someone else can do it better than you, then that's kind of your problem.
Reminds me of how oreos were originally a knock off brand of Hydrox that completely eclipsed them.

>>103231318 (OP)
I have google dockey fatigue

>>103244746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f53SgB-RNSU
Actually I found something, this isn't the original shit but whatever you can hear a lot of it. Also Shy's eye squint at "settle for less" is pretty funny

An 80 fucking page document. Jesus Christ.
All I got from what I read is that Sinder's a cunt, but Lily is too. A lying cunt at that. Also, I appreciate the pun of calling her the "orcastrator."

>>103245012
All of these women hoard up and attack in groups like this, if it was someone else Sinder would have been part of this group attacking and attempting to destroy their career the same way those group of women destroyed Sinders. They're all kiwifarms high school bullies who still love the teen drama even though most of them are 30ish and still haven't grown out of it. They deserve each other and will most likely eventually eat each other.

>>103245279
Anon, where the fuck do you think you are?

>>103245298
Why yes I do realize the irony of making a post like that on 4chan, particularly 4chan's /vt/ subsection. Doesn't make what I said less true.

>>103231355
spbp
Phasecucks brought their kiwifarm Jerry Springer culture with them

>>103231318 (OP)
I recognize 4 of those listed "people" as being phaseshitter vtweeters who hang out with proctor

>>103231521
who are these whos?

>>103239342
>I doubt reality
Yeah, we know

>>103231415
>interesting content
You mean drama, right?

>>103231318 (OP)
>Women being backstabbing and slanderous
Yeah, we know that already

>>103231318 (OP)
The model copying allegations will never not be funny though. Even though they look different, it's their own damn fault for always picking the most generic of anime girl character concepts.

>>103231340
>Become
Nigga this is literally the most feminine board on this website. Even /mlp/ has more testosterone than vt, how fucking new are you?

>>103231423
So Sinder gets her anus turned into a rosebud every night, big deal, her heart still belongs to us.

>>103245012
>The other big whores got skeletons in the closet and are mean and oportunistic cunts

Case in point
Take the tinyindiepill and the male pill and watch me

>>103235205
No shit!

>>103231340
/vt/ isn't even a 4chan board anymore, just a place for vtubers and schizos from other websites to run gayops on each other and farm content for twitter. May as well shut the board down and force drama tourists back to their websites with actual moderation

>>103235205
incredible, people 10 years ago sounded younger!

>>103243930
Biggest holo EN yabs after 4 years be like
>she interacted with males!
>she fed a troll on twitter that one time!
>kronii seems to avoid fauna for some reason!
>a manager got fired for being a useless cunt!

>>103245861
It really is remarkable how tight the branch has been about actual, real yabs.

But they did have serious issues like going 2ish years with barely any streams, with even now there being a massive stream shortage. It's not really as bombastic as terminating a key person or anything, though.

I know I'm missing something, though.

>>103242268
That's like comparing an alpha predator with a small bug eaten by ants. Totally different beasts.

>>103245800
its gotten somehow worse since the hack and that's really saying something
you know its bad when jaks and frogs don't get deleted
hell even blatant consolewars don't get deleted may as well just merge us with /v/

>>103231318 (OP)
>Hey be our exclusive but we won't pay you tho.
This alone deserve to be expose to everyone.

>>103246006
Because people saw how much better it was having moderation and simple shit like IDs to point out samefagging retards. The April fools day shit funnelling people into boards with IDs and flags also helped with that. The reality is a lot of people never came back.

>>103245911
Holo EN hasn’t had a cataclysm yet. The would be something like all of Advent leaving at once. They’re set up well, spread appropriately thin, so even occasional high waves can’t capsize the ship.

>>103246006
I used to be on the fence about going back to /jp/ but now it's better to just give vtubers the GR15 treatment, if there wasn't a concentrated group of anonymous schizos to weaponize most of these google doc dramas would either be handled privately or not even be manufactured at all. Kiwiniggers and doxxcords also depend on this board existing to spread their shit to the masses with 0 pushback from the jannies

>>103233901
She is the void lord but we haven't seen a Jailer level entity yet.

>>103231736
can we still post memes and make fun of us schizo bros?

>>103231340
>center
But the gossip is clearly posted to twitter and this board is receiving it second hand.

>>103237453
Damn. 80 pages of bullshit?

>>103231318 (OP)
all of these used up whores are so fucking annoying DIE ALREADY NORMALFAGS

>>103234161
as the salmon shark said, "tear it down burn it down"

>>103231318 (OP)
is anyone buying this shit?

>>103234161
>as she was in a long distance relationship with Redacted.
oh no no no. red was a cuck all along

>>103237453
>10% vs 5%
wait what? i thought partial owner thing was a meme and maybe 0.01% equity or smth. these bitches own single digit equity?

>>103246319
Everyone bought Nanoless Google Dockey so....

>>103246381
I thought it was more than that, honestly.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Doki was a partial owner now, too.
The girl is using gamersupps as her personal merch distributor. I don't know what the fuck kind of deal would allow that.

No, did a cross reference first 10ish pages and this is fake as fuck. I'm not going to finish the whole thing it's the same shit as that one schizo made hours long video defending sinder.

>>103241037
With Saba now on the scene they're all threatened and must settle for 2nd place.

>>103231318 (OP)
>>103233181
>>103236487
>>103237864
>>103237915
you forgot the most important thing
>be the twitch ceo's personal fucktoy

>>103247174
Anon, you've posted this image like 80 times and it doesn't say what you think it says.

>>103241037
every mythic talent whore is like that
and no, they are NOT indies

>>103247195
lol
lmao even

>>103247174
>she was getting spitroasted by Clancy and Piker
Grim

>>103247217
meanwhile
>be a fan of hers
>go to an irl meet and greet
>ask for a hug
>get labeled a creep and sexual harasser afterwards

>>103234161
>manager/husband
At this point I'm convinced every woman on the vtubing sphere is just being pimped out by their bfs/husbands.

>>103247242
Most likely fake, but qrd?

>>103247268
that is the qrd, anon
I'm sure you can find more info about it on the "news" (a.k.a. dramafag channels)

This google dockey defanged and discredited itself by trying to exonerate Sinder. If the guy who wrote this just focused on taking down Shylily, it would be more of a success. But now it's a wet fart that will be forgotten in a few days.

Does this doc have any substantial evidence

>>103247342
Sinder really, really wants it to be true. Does that count?

>>103231340
Because all the talents are posting here. This is where fans, talents, rrats, paid shills, stalkers, haters, Vice magazine, and sweaty discord mods go to post what they won't say in chat or on stream.

>>103234161
>long distance relationship
Sounds like a psyop to prime paypigs for sinder's return

>>103247744
It's also fake as fuck considering everyone who's met or talked about meeting them mentioned how they were joined at the hip and never apart.

>>103234161
>Oh no Shiliykeks, what are we gonna do?
Call it fake and irrelevant and incorrect and continue with the same narrative that's already popular and won't be beaten out by yours.

>>103231318 (OP)
Kekapooo I don't care about indies

Can we have Shylily and Sinder fight instead of sending Google Dockeys like pussies?

>>103239910
The term was expanded because the scene of lolcow watchers was infiltrated by genuine pieces of shit so it came to mean "person I personally don't like". So the dregs of humanity judges you and calls you a lolcow.

>Geega didn't go on GTA after stream
>No activity on twitter or discord
Is she fixing this mess?

QRD?

>>103248359
If by fight you mean lesbians sex then I second this motion.

>>103231340
>Vtuber
>Women
this a /cgl/ offshoot my friend.

>>103247174
knowing that the top twitch streamers are all botted
makes one wonder how many of them he is fucking

>>103231340
I don't care about vtubers, I only care about the drama and chaos

>>103247195
A picture is worth 1000 words it says EXACTLY what any anon here says it does and more, are you fucking kidding? the fuck outta here

holy white knighting ... you can never reach these levels, anon

The girls are fighting...

NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THESE DEVIANT WHORES.
FLOOD THE EARTH ALREADY.

>>103248555
naked wrestling to determine the winner

>>103250615
But your inference is based on solely the words in the picture,the words in the schizoposter's comment, and the words uttered by your porn-addled headmates.

>>103251142
Only if biting is allowed.

>>103239851
What's the assumption here anyways? What kind of missing context could there even be that would matter? If we're asking questions just for the sake of it and not because there's something to question, what's the point?

>>103251134
Best you can hope for is what ever brown gangs stalk the streets in their country get them.

>>103246203
>0 pushback from the jannies
The jannies are the shitters bro, this board is doomed to rot.

>>103231318 (OP)
sinderfag really trying to do equivalent nijiblackstreaming but has zero virality KEK

>>103247195
>"it doesn't say what you think it says."
>Old greasy white man goes to known sex service capital of europe for an 'amazing dinner' with young attractive virtual egirl
Anon you don't need to be sherlock holmes to figure out what that image is saying, shylily is mega retarded for posting it though with that wording. actually she's just retarded for posting it at all, especially as her vtuber identity.

>>103247195
What the fuck do you mean you actual retard? Why would the old decrepit CEO of a major streaming company go to the Netherlands(literally the hooker capital of the world) to go have dinner with a random woman known exclusively for bouncing her vtuber model's titties on camera for money? A man so thoroughly obsessed with cam sluts that his entire personal twitch page is plastered with them. Now finally he has gone on a world wide tour to "have personal conversations" with said cam sluts with the occasional random normie streamer to throw retards like you off. Do you really think aging gooner man with millions of dollars at his disposal didn't go plow that sow? With how greedy she is you really don't think she would take a hefty cash payment to spend a night with essentially her boss? Holy shit anon get a grip.

>>103248530
some 0view phase orbiter dramatubers compiled ""evidence"" of shylily being le evil
it's a complete nothingburger because their sources are "i read on 4chan that..." or "proctor said..."

>>103231340
You either have time loops and lewd postings or gossip what else is there

>>103234161
>Shylily
>Sinder
>Numi
>Nanoless
>Silvervale
I'm so fucking glad that I haven't watched a single second of content from any of these names
Fucking indie twitchtubers, man

>>103231340
>become
How new are you

>>103253913
I remember watching a shylily clip that showed up in my youtube home page and it was her talking about getting fucked so hard by her boyfriend that she queefed. Imagine unironically watching this. not even ryefags are this fucking cucked.

>>103235205
Why are you like this?

>>103254242
Had almost the same experience, the clip I saw was her talking about how when she got her period a dog started like trying to sniff her pussy. Disclosing your period to a live audience is just fucked.

>>103231318 (OP)
Sorry, but anyone who refers to it as a ‘Google Dockey’ instantly loses my interest. I hope your frontal lobe finishes growing in at some point, anon.

>>103244789
Hydrox is a horrible name for a cookie. It sounds like a chemical cleaner product or a tampon.

>>103243930
>high school mean girl drama
>company so black someone tries to kill herself
>senpai gomenne~
>$500,000 snatch and run

You are not wrong, nothing Hololive has done wrong gets close to the bullshit we have so far from western vtubing.

>>103254379
I don't understand how twitchfags are real people? How does anyone derive enjoyment from this? any other fanbase would mass an hero if their oshi does this, but twitchfags revel in having their oshi act like the most vile street walkers imaginable.

>>103254242
>>103254379
>>103254498
Its generally because that type of shit is popular with girls who are the vtubers themselves. So they promote the vtubers they like and then people watch them because their oshi likes them.
Women think jokes about getting fucked so hard they queef and period jokes are the funniest shit and they laugh and go, "you are so real for that queen"

>>103245279
Vtubing just reached Young Hollywood stage, with the outpouring of paparazzi and scandals, the whole nine. It was inevitable and I don't get why people thought it was immune to that.

>>103231318 (OP)
I read it. What an absolute waste of time. There is nothing new here and it completely ignores the things Sinder admitted to in her apology.

I think this is the second time her simps have tried to release a google doc to exonerate her.

>>103231318 (OP)
>Mizu
Stopped reading right there.

they've really been trying to defend her for 300 replies damn, you know it's really bad

>>103231521
>still complaining about DN
You're worst than the Quinn schizo who had a melty over plushies.

>>103231318 (OP)
I didn't know you could do forensic examination on screenshots... so now there's really no reason for people to censor names

>>103234161
You do understand the stuff Sinder did at that point goes beyond personal shit when you fuck with someone's income and tell a bunch of artists and workers to avoid/blacklist these people right? Sinder can be sued.

You have to go public if someone is doing behind the scenes backstabbing shit like that.

Man I'm glad I'm a holochad and I don't watch any of these garbage twitch drama streamers

>>103245402
Put them all in the wood chipper. Feet first of course.

>>103254603
I really don't get her appeal besides the model

>>103231340
Gossip? In my e-celeb board?

>>103257009
I don't watch her either but the vtubers I do watch like her and know her and hang out whenever they got to the same conventions. Shylily has a lot of pull behind the scenes.
Shes definitely going no where anytime soon.

>>103237797
summarize

>>103231318 (OP)
I have absolutely no interest in this drama, but I admit that seeing this guy hyping up his long ass doc just for it to reach a relatively meager 35k views and 329 likes after two days is extremely funny to me

>>103231318 (OP)
Corpobros made the right choice, indie scene is a snake pit.

>>103258421
All this nonsense revolves around bigger indies, the smaller ones aren't involved in these scandals because there isn't investment in them

>>103231318 (OP)
>Shylily is finished
>posted two days ago
pyrocucks are not sending their best

>>103231340
Because you didn't sage and report every thread spamming Pomu doxx and Niji discord drama all those years ago. The dramafags got too much success over dunking on Niji and now they need to keep feeding their audience with more drama to maintain their income.

If you've ever watched a FalseeyeD, Depressed Nousagi, or Rima Evenstar video you're part of the problem. If you've ever rewarded Pippa with views for breaking containment, you're part of the problem. All these people need to be purged. Any time a drama thread shows up on the catalog not directly concerning vtuber livestreams it should be saged and reported. Doxxfags need to be punished more severely and not just when it concerns Hololive.

Fuck this stupid fucking board and its useless jannies that refuse to fix it.

>>103247196
Many will be joining Mythic soon, just like the other ex-VShitshow.

>>103259448
Has anyone joined Mythic since Vshitshow closed?

Someone tldr? Who is the whore I should be dedicating the next week to flaming?

>>103260180
Still Sinder unfortunately.
Lily's time will come!

>>103253748
Please go outside. Talk to somebody who isn't your mother. You're clearly retarded and incapable of understanding human socialization.

>>103252762
>shylily is mega retarded for posting it though with that wording
Ohhhh.
You're the same kind of ESL that thinks HoloEN is dead and broke and has made zero profit since its inception.

>>103259920
Unwise to do much of anything until the court procedures are started. Including anything breaking NDA. But it will all come out once started..
And for those still looking for dependable sponsors, Mythic can be their new retirement home.

>>103246006
I think the hack made several jannies quit.

>>103261025
Mythic shouldn't hire Froot in any case.

>>103258472
>All this nonsense revolves around bigger Twitch indies

I'm very happy watching Minto right now, but almost every single western vtuber drama that happens comes from a twitchwhore.