https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivS5rkGzfBE Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Fuck it. We ball.

Image source: >>88281646

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>103229955

Got away with it list:
MTD
Mouse
Mel
Apek
Henya
Vei

I love lewd waldo Mouse

Why did Mei betray Zentreya

>Zen shows up as a viewer in Mouse's anniversary stream
>Sees that Mouse included Ari and excluded her
>Disappears as a viewer in Mouse's anniversary stream
>Posts a formal Discord announcement @everyone that she's no longer friends with Ari
>Does a suicidebaiting stream the next day that makes Ari look bad

>>103238411 (OP)
This pic goes HARD

>900+ posts last thread
qrd????

>>103238489
>lewd waldo

>>103238411 (OP)
Make the OP picture size accurate and change it to a tennis ball

>>103238497
Mei likely suffered just as Ari did

>>103238497
who cares you posted it last thread stop self inserting your troon

>>103238411 (OP)
geega will NEVER be ballin

>>103238519
Another rrat hit Zen.

>>103238505
I think these events were preceded by reading 4chan.

>>103238519
Ari went live and was sad. Basically leaves no room for doubt that Zen is at fault, despite the best efforts of Arispergs who are spamming at full speed to try and pin it on her.

>>103238519
the evil woman was Zen all along

>>103238519
the Henya rrats were true

>only Mata and Fream replied
it's zenover

Geega leaving VShojo led to all of this btw
everything was held in a careful balance and the Geegster knocked it all over

>>103238525
Did I stutter?

>>103238542
Would you fuck me? You seem to know a lot about trannies.

>>103238553
zen followed her own advice and destroyed herself

THE ZENARI SITUATION.

how role did mel play in this????? who WAS the shadow CEO???? what REALLY happened that day??? and how does the new sinder REVELATION fit into all this?????

>>103238519
Ari streamed.

If multiple people are having issues with Zen than I’m inclined to think she is the problem here.

chair prices in texas?

>>103238598
HOLY SHIT IS THIS REAL

>>103238573
It was Geega playing GTA
She stopped doing collab setup for the girls and then nobody else picked up the slack

Zen should go on stream and cry. It will swing the pendulum back to her. Then Ari will do it again. Then Zen again.

>>103238542
Mei is a woman

Man, being famous sure sucks sometimes huh.
I have done shit to friends and family many times worse than this, and I will never suffer even a thousandth of the hate or gossip you deliver for "being a dick to your friends once"
lmao my ass off

Mouse please make #mouseylust official again.

>>103238607
massively in the green

>>103238605
who are the multiple people?

I hate it here

>>103238519
Ari oofed

>>103238640
nope HE is not

>>103238519
Zen forced Ari's hand.

Pia just called herself the throat goat

>>103238677
Me, myself, and I.

>>103238677
Henya & Mouse

>>103238677
Mouse, Henya, Ari ,Geega

Honestly I’m already tired of the zen ari drama, in go play some video games

If ari was an adult she wouldn't have responded and left it alone
unfortunately these are women so they still think like children

oh hey that vshojo sings channel rebranded to vtuber sings

https://youtube.com/shorts/M6PMdacofqg
No seriously. What in the flying fuck happened to have two people who openly respect the fuck out of each other to wind up like this?

>>103238681
who?

>>103238736
>geega
Wrong

>>103238762
Apek

>>103238762
latinas

https://poal.me/4ci8qz
https://poal.me/4ci8qz
https://poal.me/4ci8qz

>>103238643
Ever heard the Don Henley song?
https://youtu.be/bsRTsiKPI2M?si=ITmhSH3BrqFrzECU

A gift, from me to you.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DsugND-vmxbbsqcoL7V6FTPyh8d09udwTdloCc-G0c8/mobilebasic?hl=de

>>103238781
latinx*

>>103238742
Nah, Ari had every right to defend herself. Zen hurt Ari's reputation with that announcement and stream, and sent antis her way.

>>103238762
>5 years ago
Things changed.

>>103238762
Mouse became too famous to care about those she was with back then

>>103238736
>geega
She’s not said anything or done anything either

>>103238798

>>103238798
I ain't opening that.

>>103238798
wtf is this schizo shit

nothing ever happens
this is a nothingburger
you are blowing to out of proportion
you all look foolish right now
calm yourself and embrace nothingness

>>103238818
This but Zen with her VRC friends

>>103238681
She won

>>103238851
Vshojo is dead and every vshojo fan was being manipulated by paid shills

if you ever watch whenever Ari was on Zen's stream she always gave off that fake "nice" vibe and and moved on to someone with bigger numbers to leech from

>>103238798
Why do you type like a tranny.

>>103238762
She finally realized that men posing as women on the internet and having menhera episodes are disgusting. Good for her.

How gay do you have to be to still be supporting Zen?

>>103238891
time heals wounds
it wasn't as bad as they say it was
in the end it was a nothingburger
nothing changed

Congrats to latina love for becoming an even bigger trainwreck than pink love somehow

>>103238798
Yea I’m not reading all this shit anon, you just sound like a crazy person

>>103238943
Can't wait for purple yuri to surpass them

>>103238933
I would believe arcadum before i believe anything ari has to say

>>103238943
Anyone who knows anything about latinas saw this coming

>>103238798
blackjack coded post

>>103238762
Next you'll ask how people who loved and married each other can grow to hate each other and divorce

How gay do you have to be supporting Mouse after all this?

>>103238937
shut up gunrun

>>103238762
It was called out over a year ago that Mouse was pretty obviously ignoring Zen. Who could have guessed that ghosting a friend for months would cause issues? Then Mouse proceeds to steal one of Zen's closest friends. Zen sees what's happening and tries to warn Ari. Ari picks Mouse. You are now here.

>>103238762
>cirPat
cirno_tv is /in/

Live Zentreya Reaction!

No seriously. Wtf.
https://youtu.be/MlhV7r7RPkM

>>103238974
At this rate, one might end up killing the other at some point.

Heavenly raided his kamioshi

>>103239001
so true sister

>>103238865
What did she get?

Ari the leech

>>103238943
It wasn't that hard.
VShojo caused pink love to die.
Zen and/or Mouse themselves killed latina love, so naturally it would end way worse.

>>103239004
Don't forget Mouse has done this before
>what is a friend?

>>103239035
Zen is a white guy

>>103239027
And he's getting banned. It's fucking over.

>>103239027
Being a true neutral takes effort

>>103239027
Henya lynched him

Zen the faggot

>>103239017
Are you actually having a difficult time understanding, or are you trying to start a new "nah dude what the ABSOLUTE FUCK???????"

Yeah so sad

>>103239032
won in life

It's all obviously Henya's fault
Zen became jealous of her massive cock, larger than her's leading to this debacle

>>103239055
find another attack vector. no one here cares if she's trans.

In other news Beri's hair is annoying as fuck to make

>>103238891
>paid shills
But... I did it for free...

>>103239009
Is she drinking beer through her ass?

>>103238829
pls nyan don't ever look back and get involved to any of this shit tier high school drama, just keep doing your pig screeching streams amen

>>103239079
Ari has crocodile tears

>>103239079
Do you think I'm actually laughing when I type lmao?

>>103239102
stay strong, koikatsu anon

>>103239104
Sad Zen is a member of the pack.

>>103239090
Zhe's white tho so Latina love was retarded

>>103239079
so true sister, replying to someone on twitter is like so impossible when you're sad

>>103239108
Bad news anon, Nyan is already talking with Mouse again.
She better hope Mouse doesn't force her to cut ties with Zen.

>>103239138
i think people care even less about that lol

>>103239118
>gifting subs
Bribery
>you fuckin hate me
There's the manipulation blaming everyone but herself

so with vshojo dead and we're currently in a civil war
does this imply that there will be a cuban missile crisis and a cold war?

>>103239086
Post the complete pic coward

>>103239079
when you're sad do you not try to distract yourself with happy things?

What if everyone in this situation is in the wrong while are extra retarded about it, and you monkeys are sperging out over nothing?

>>103239119
why are you acting like your ari? anon

https://youtu.be/RVb7ZeF0WTk
Why are women like this to ruin a friendship over the dumbest shit.

>>103239104
better absorption

Zen apologetics is my least favorite kind of mental illness

>>103239138
Did you forget she was adopted? Raised white maybe, as much as you can be in Texas

My take on this situatuion is that pink cat is good

>>103239079
The real question is if this is just between Ari and Zen, why does Vichiban know about it to unfollow?

>>103239079
Are you an alien or just autistic at a level beyond Haruka? Just because you're emotional about something in the moment doesn't mean that you can't move past it.

>>103239175
>bat poster trying act like they're the voice of reason
ironic

>>103239176
I do like Ari. I'm subbed to her. I'm also subbed to Zen.

Zen and Ari are not the problem. Mouse is.

>>103238798

>>103239175
Zen has a proven track record of uplifting many 2views and are still friends with them.
Ari is a leech.

>>103239208
debunked

>>103239208
smartest anon /here/

>>103239208
shes bad in my eyes until she brings back the witch outfit in a stream or 3d model

So is Heavenly the only one who isn't being a sperg?

>>103239209
ari has been not-so-secretly spreading Zen bad with everyone she can get her hands on for months

You know ever since it was revealed Vshojo was being controlling over Mouse I really had a lot of hope that meant Mouse's obvious clout chasing was because of them. I thought maybe Mouse ignoring so many Vshojo members to chase after Bibinos was because they wanted her to farm even more clout. But now with Mouse herself actively choosing to keep shilling Bibinos and adding him to her intro while ignoring multiple friends she supposedly had in Vshojo I'm not so sure. Now we even know Zen likely was mad at Mouse for it and that led Zen to give Ari an ultimatum losing her closest friend, be depressed, drink, and suicidal and I can't look at Mouse the same way anymore. Even with Vshojo pushing her how can you do that to your friends? The original three were bad enough yet Mouse did it again? Fucked up.

>>103239208
I’ll need more evidence on this one

>>103239235
Or Zen is a groomer

>>103239258
I'm sure you'd like Heavenly balls deep in you

>>103239175
batGOD coming in with his wisdom and correct takes

>>103239258
Michi is also neutral (for now)

I'm a proud trans latinx

>>103239235
The difference is that Ari got big enough to tell Zen to suck her nards when ordered to fall in line

>>103239208
>Escaped VShojo earlier than most
>One of the few that eventually got fully paid
>Spends her days chilling with her house husband
>Avoids the Mouse/Zen war
>Doesn't even know who Ari is
pink cat won

>>103239270
No because how many would know Ari's existence if she never met Zen

>>103239260
I feel like it'd be Ari going to Mouse about it since its definitely Mouse that Zen didn't want her hanging out with, and then Mouse told her Vchiiban dogs to follow

>>103239266
mouse has been vtubing for 8 years, name one friend from before vshojo

>>103239270
Define groomer in this instance

hey stupid niggers this is just /mouse/ already?

>>103239298
We love trannys here (as long as they're not terribly mentally ill).

>someone steals millions
>already talking about nonsense low stakes drama
lol this is why you were scammed so easily

>>103239316
me, but also i know that basedmilk exists.

>>103239266
I don't know what is bait or spergery anymore

Mei betrayed Zen. Why?

>shadow COO
>COO left not long before vshojo imploded
>COO has a history of shitty and manipulative behaviour
>Zen left a little before vshojo imploded

Hmmm makes you think

>>103239348
If anything it's been more like /zen/ or /ari/ today than /mouse/

>Zen expected more from Mouse.
>Mouse wasn't too interested in a friendship with Zen besides streaming.
>Much like Silver, she noticed that Mouse was a bit business sided with some friendships and more close to others (nothing wrong with this mindset in the streaming world to be fair, but needs to be explained to some people)
>Zen thought they were the close ones.
>They were not (or at the very least Mouse didn't give the things Zen wanted).
>Mouse meets Ari through Zen and Haruka
>Ari is literally Zen 2.0 but female
>It's able to connect more than whatever Mouse and Zen had over the years
>Chichat offline, calls offline, and streaming collabs all the time
>Mouse gets all the attention from VShojo and likely because of her they bring GFUEL to the girls.
>MouseWins.png
>Zen continues to have a hatred for Mouse growing inside.
>Mouse continues to collab with Ari more
>It explodes once the ER collab happened.
>Mouse did nothing and basically let to Zen be insanely messed up with nothing to stop it since she's dealing with the whole VShojo stuff at that moment, and keeping everything in line (the bbno$ collab, gfuel)
>Zen ends up being the bad guy
>Henya, Ari and Mouse drop Zen to calm down
>Zen doesn't
>Ari tries to make peace with Zen
>Zen explodes yet again and pulls a Sinder
>Blows in Zen's face
>Ari tells Henya and Mouse
>Mouse tells VChiban and they all drop Zen (nothing to lose honestly)
>Zen goes crazy
>Sees the background of Mouse's
>"After all it was easy to remove Zen"
>Goes for Ari since it was the most recent thing
>Blows in Zen's face
>Gets wasted again on stream
>Realizes she fucked up
>Ari tells everything
>regret.png

I got that right?

Have a Hotaru in these trying times

>>103238943
Reimu must be seething that she's graduating too late to join in the shitshow

But what about Layna Lazar?

>>103239361
We like tea here, sis.

>>103239348
kuro looks a little different here

>>103239083
true! in hindsight, the first three leavers are far mentally stable now by keeping their core audiences who won't beg to collab/associate with this-that x person

>>103239332
roxxy

>>103239369
chief genoperating geegofficer

>>103239409
Hates Numi for kissing her without permission

>>103239332
Mel

>>103239391
rrats ain’t healthy

>>103239409
One of the only few chuubas who can compete with Zen in terms of menhera impressively

>>103239391
1 thing you got wrong, ari never tried to make peace with zen and immediately gave up

>>103239391
Anyone who makes a post summarizing what happened and takes more than 3 sentences is rrating out of their retarded minds

>>103239364
I remember the months of anons talking about Mouse obviously dodging her friends and instead taking every single moment to collab with random big fleshies. I tried hard to defend her so much during a lot of that but it kept happening. Then this whole Vshojo thing and I thought here it is here is the answer. I was right Mouse wasn't clout chasing she had to do it because of Vshojo. Now it turns out not only was it all Mouse's idea to clout chase but she was also purposefully ignoring her friends. I feel betrayed.

>>103239457
Probably not a friend anymore lol

>>103239480

>>103239391
no, mouse and ari have been working to cut zen out of their lives since before the nightreign collab. nightrein was when zen noticed that it wasnt a coincidence and that they were actively making a clique to exclude her.

>>103239409
my wife

>>103239457
I wouldnt say collabing with Mel only right after Zen left because she was probably clinging to the few Vshojo members left that streamed is a "friend"

>>103238645
God I hope she does.

>>103239369

on a related note, Geega's model is lagging
on an unrelated note, Bunny's honkers are big and jiggly today too, as always

>>103239478
This is a good rule of thumb. Boiled down to facts this takes like 1 small paragraph to explain. 15 lines in a greentext are the work of a schizo

what if zen is 2 people and one of them is eviltoaster

>>103239348
>>103239383
Hey, being a Batfag and going into other threads is my bit. Back off.

This all could have been avoided if I had sent my dick pics to zen and mouse
They would have bonded over my misshapen pathetic penis, strengthening their sisterly Latina bond for years to come

>>103239480
anon mouse literally AFKed on the vshojo mandated party animals collab for kuro's fucking debut, to play some other friendslop with sykkuno

>>103239528
>Bunny's honkers are big and jiggly today too, as always
truly calming stability in these turbulent times

The weird part about Mouse's background isn't just Zen missing, but half of the exVshojos as well. Doubly weird considering it was mad while Vshojo was still a thing.

>>103239542
Somehow, Eviltoaster returned

>>103239478
Okay let me do the short version.
Zen thought they had a deeper friendship with Mouse. They didn't. Mouse and Ari did. Started to exclude Zen. Zen explodes, pulls a Sinder on Ari. Ari doesn't take that shit. Zen fucks up yet again.

>>103239570
It's not weird when you realize power corrupts and she's a woman who are naturally more susceptible to narcissistic behaviors.

>>103239570
>The weird part about Mouse's background isn't just Zen missing, but half of the exVshojos as well.
not when you realized it was comissioned while she was still in vshojo
she knew the leavers were leaving she just didn't know she would become a leaver herself

>>103239570
Mouse had it edited to remove a bunch of people after VShojo imploded. She purposely had a bunch of actual friends like Geega taken out of it as well so that people can't speculate too hard.
Somehow Zen failed to understand this.

>>103239528
Not gonna lie i miss Zen Froot, Bunny and Momo collabs

>>103239604
Ama? Froot? Mel?

>>103239570
She knew all along and probably was in on it but left when it finally happened to her

>>103239570
yes and openly mouse said don't go spreading rumors and don't read too much into it and then zen posted that shit on discord

>>103239570
Made while in VShojo
It was likely going to remove Zen, Mata and GEEGA.
The rest were probably going to be on the same spot Haruka and Ari are.

I can listen to pia yap for hours

HENYA A BAD BITCH CONFIRMED

>>103239636
technically they're leavers

>>103239604
she sent it back to remove the vshojo related stuff among other things, she said it on stream

>>103239604
It was a 1-2 week gap before she left too and backgrounds like that takes longer and if you were right the vshojo logo would be there or see where it would've been

Consider this: it was easy and relatively cheap to add everyone to the background still. And yet, here we are.

So basically Arielle was leeching Zen hoping to get into vsj and it doesn't happen, and they have a falling out?

What if, batatvideogames was Zen?

>>103239658
Mouse was stupid for that. She always has all vshojo members in the background along with many of her friends. This background was long being made before this whole explosion. The only reason anyone is missing is because Mouse doesn't want them there. She is just too afraid to admit that.

>>103239712
Can’t be Zen doesn’t have megaman or MH autism

I have felt close many time to achieving a hands free ejaculation but I can never make it over the finish line. What do?

>>103239706
and all those times Mouse purposely put the vshojo logo over Silver before she left with vei

>you always find ways to justify your selfish acts because bad things happened to you in the past
>are you a bad person?
>chat says no
The fuck

>>103239761
use your feet

>>103239735
>She always has all vshojo members
not always but most of the time. vshojo died. she doesn't need to put ex members she chose the one she's close to thus why she put roxy or pete

>>103239570
How the fuck did Froggy get in?

>>103239687
kson, kuro, and haruka were the ones on the way out before mouse dropped the video

>>103239761
How do you do that? It must take very long without stimulation

>>103238246
Okay I found and more or less read the stupid google dockey. So apparently the random nobody is saying Shylily and Bao worked together to run a smear campaign again Sinder. Which is kind of funny because it means the /lig/ schizos were right. The thing I find funnier is that this google dockey shows that Silver had nothing to do with it and just decided to tell her side of the story after it all started. The nobody even states that Sinder is guilty of what she did to Silver but for some reason states that it's okay because she apologized (which is retarded). Anyway, Silver keeps on winning.

Just got home from work, I miss anything cool in Mata's stream?

>>103239710
leeching zen then when she gotten enough viewers decided to leech mouse who has more fans to steal

>>103239774
A lot of geckos in her chat

>>103239781
Ari

>>103239812
Tomorrow.

Here's my rrat in the background:
Mouse wanted to remove Mel from the background since she may be implicated in the whole VShojo scheme. But she didn't want people questioning it, so she had a ton of people removed from the background to throw people off, Zen was one of those removed.
Zen didn't get the memo and saw the background include Ari but not her which caused her to go full zenhera and make that post. Which is how we got to here.

>>103239313
also,

>Scored a financially stable streamer bf
>Living as a trad housewife in a jungle ass home
>Can say retard any time she wants
>Don't care about vtubing "culture" and NDAs
>Shit on gunrun & mtd
queen vei won

ok, here's what happened
zentreya did thing
mouse did other thing
ari said thing
zentreya say no thing
the end

>>103239775
i would but i ain't that flexible
>>103239802
been like, flexing the muscle down there. but when i get close the muscles in the back of my thighs get really tight to the point of being painful, so not sure if i'm doing it wrong or if i just need to push past it

>>103239780
Mouse has no excuse now because she's indie too and could always get the artist to add more in background but refuses

mousespergs and arispergs are foaming that zen ended being the baddie

>>103239781
that background would be based on who she hangs out with offstream

>>103239761
vibe under the balls

>>103239844
True Nyan, Vei, and Silver all basically won just by getting out of this shitshow early

>>103239908
Favoritism

I don't want to say it's dogpilling but it is pretty odd in some areas. Like how easily Ari dropped Zen for Mouse back then. How easy Mouse dropped Mouse. How Zen already was thinking of Mouse that way. Zen learning nothing about Sinder lol

My main point will be, fuck this, I will watch collabs without any of them, stay watching Nyan, Mata, Michi or Froot.

>>103239943
Mouse stopped being friends with Mouse?

>>103239943
>Mouse dropped Mouse
?

>>103239943
s m h
I can’t believe Mouse dropped Mouse

Don't let the highschool-tier drama distract you from the fact that Mel might end up as a sexy evil woman who got away with a boatload of cash.

>>103238519
Zen out for being a manipulative and shitty friend

>>103239878
This whole background narrative is pathetic.

>>103239954
Mouse dropped her lewd self

>>103239872
>i would but i ain't that flexible
I can't even touch my toes, but I can do that, how inflexible are you?

>>103239954
>>103239961
>>103239964
fuck I meant Zen, i fucked up.
how Mouse dropped Zen*

>>103239833
me everyday

>>103239943
Holy shit Mouse unfollowed mouse on twitch

>>103239965
Who cares, we have an even hotter evil woman now

>>103239810
A lot of Sinder deadenders on Twitter even admit that what Sinder did to Silver was wrong and that Silver was in the right.
It's Shylily that they mainly have beef with.

>>103239943
>stay watching Mata
she'd have to care enough to stream

>>103240011
did to who?

>>103240005
>we have an even hotter evil woman now
>woman

It seems the only place freaking out about this is literally just here. Zen’s discord said to shut up and there’s nothing on twitter

Zen being a control freak doesn't surprise me. this nigga never took vacations

>>103240005
and its mouse

Is this all normal latina behavior ?

>>103239954
happened a long time ago...

>>103239965

>>103240039
There's Reddit too

>>103240039
I mean it's kind of a nothingburger

>>103240039
The other places are hug boxes where you'll get banned for talking about it, so everyone came /here/, thats why there is so many posts

>>103239943
>Dropping mouse right before the pink love/vein gang collabs return
Big mistake imo

>>103240050
When was the last time geega took a vacation?

>>103240011
A lot of Sinder deadenders on Twitter even admit that what Sinder did to Silver was wrong and that Silver was in the right.
I didn't know that, it's good to hear. I doubt even with this new doc that it'll mean Sinder will be welcomed back though. Mainly because of what she did to Silver.

>>103239810
this is basically true. Sinder thought she could bring a knife to a fistfight but it turns out the indie bitches in whoreclan were all packing heat ('who the fuck would have ever known the friendly group of business owners in this nice clean neighborhood of Slum City was actually a front for the mafia' aka sinder is a fucking retard). Shy and Bao didnt target her for no reason, they precision striked her because she broke the rules.

>>103239965
>>103240057
qrd?

>>103239972
>narrative
How are there still people denying it after the timing… Even Ari mentioned how Zen announced it suddenly weeks after they went separate ways

Zen's a dumbass. Does dumb shit and will act upon it. This isn't the first time and it isn't the last time.

>>103240096
GTA is GEEGA's vacation. But to answer you seriously she did actually take vacations more than once. the last one was just recently.

>>103240087
Anon, between you and me, there's going to be only one this year.
>>103240096
Moving arc
The time Mata visited
The surgery

>>103240117
samefag

Is this really a big deal? From an outsiders point of view, I have never heard of Ari in my life and yet you guys act like she is some infamous/famous, well known person that matters like alot. Idgi. What significance does this all hold?

>>103240117
Apek's PFP was a shiba inu

>>103239965
Most of the money was converted to yen and was of less value. She's not rich at all.

>>103240134
One is better than nothing though lol

The minute Mel steps in the US

>>103239943
>how easily Ari dropped Zen for Mouse back then
Ari was perfectly happy being friends with both of them and being such a regular on Zen's stream that people were complaining about her always being there and being too loud until the sudden breakup happened
the timeline is clearly
>Ari hangs out with Zen on stream
>meets Mouse on Miney Crafta (IIRC)
>click and become close
>keeps hanging out with Zen on stream while hanging out with Mouse on and off stream
>Zen falls out with Mouse
>Ari doesn't care and stays neutral
>Zen says "fuck you, pick me"
>Ari says " wtf? no"
>they split
>Mouse has her anniversary thing
>Ari is featured
>Zen gets drunk and makes a huge public mess of everything

>>103239965
They spent all the money on Mel's game which was one of multiple things over the years that was supposed to fix everything and get everyone paid and happy.

>>103240183
Yeah the US really punishes white collar crime pffthahaha

>>103240104
I always thought Sinder was stupid for straight up admitting all of her wrong doings and then thinking just saying sorry would fix it but it turns out she was even dumber than I thought.

>>103240143
Not really, it's a thing between friends. Even we exaggerated the whole "Zen is manipulating" to me it sounds more like a jealous bitch. But, basically a nothingburger.
It's a similar situation with like Silver v. Mouse, it was kinda pushed to everyone's throats, but reality is that it's literally a huge nothing burger, especially after VShojo came out to be a scam, which stole from charity. Like you have that and you are really going to care that Stacey said to Nicole that Nancy had awful shoes, so Nicole can't hang out with her anymore?

>>103240143
Ari is bigger than most /lig/ darlings.

>>103240072
Looks like someone figured it all out.

>>103240143
She was someone who Zen was basically best friends with along with Haruka, and her #1 collab partner for a while. Also a clearly a source of emotional vagueposting and emo shit from Zen.

https://poal.me/c1s66t
https://poal.me/c1s66t
https://poal.me/c1s66t

>>103240117
>Vshojo imploded due to mishandled and potentially stolen cash
>Gunrun IS to blame
>however
>Melody has a confirmed long-term, prior relationship with Apek, Vshojo's COO and CFO
>it is physically impossible he wasn't in the know about Vshojo's financials
>which leaves Melody under severe suspicion
>it has been over two weeks of complete radio silence from her

>>103240157
Anon, its literally the opposite
>steal 500k of charity money, enough to buy 75k big macs
>convert it into 73.5 million yen, enough to buy 153.3k big macs

>>103240229
Thank goodness Porn Alt 84 was there to share their wisdom

I do not care about the leech.

>>103240253
what the hell is that pic lmao

>>103240084
>thats why there is so many posts
mfw i'm samefagging and using multiple devices arguing for and against both sides simultaneously as i jerk my cock to futa porn

>>103239591
Only a fucking retard would even compare this to levels of sinder. Bitch back stabbed her friends for years and actively trying to take them down

>>103240278
Well, too bad because she's already on Michi's chat.

>ari defense force today after that infamous stream

>>103240229
I've seen a lot of people putting the blame on Mouse.

>>103240281
numbers?

>>103240281
gooning with adhd be like

>>103240299
I don't care. The leech never appears in who I watch so I will continue being blissfully unaware.

>>103240117
Mel fucks dogs

>>103240281
Based

>>103240302
Yep, she literally pulled a Sinder today.

>>103240281
pretty based, dayo

>>103240281
falseflag-sama, I kneel

>>103240281
holy BASED

>>103240229
>porn_alt_84
Yeah this is definitely one of y’all

>>103240299
a leech trying to leech isnt news

gun rn

>every member who wanted to keep vshojo alive long enough for mint to join, gets to collab with ari for the rest of the year

>>103240302
>>103240331
so was ari in the wrong? gonna be honest i was watching some incest jav!

>>103240411
in terms of drama, honestly at this point we truly dont know

in terms of quality stream content ari will never be in the right

>unironic reddit screenshot corssposting
rope your selves catalog niggers

>Ah fuck, Zen made it public. I was hoping to keep it quiet so that her viewers would still come and watch me.
It all makes sense now.

>>103240306
Zen literally outed for being controlling and manipulative and people are still trying to blame mouse

>ari's mods locked the chat in emote mode
>zen's chat is open
welp, now I have no doubts about who's the "sinder" in this messy situation

>>103240489
Zen's chat is always open, the geckos need a place to make out

>>103240228
I just checked the arhives for /big/ had anything to say about Ari and got nothing. Ari is a literal who with big numbers due to being an orbiter or at least that's the impression I got from her.

>>103240440
but vei loves reddit

>>103240489
it's pretty normal for chat to be emote-only when offline, otherwise you can get banned for unmoderated chat

>>103240457
kek i kinda see it that way too, she freaked out about her last sponser stream being barely 1.3k ccv

>>103240306
Who the fuck are these random-ass people you guys keep posting as though their take carries any more weight than the randos here?

I think Zen comes away from this mostly unscathed because I dont think most people actually care about Ari or watched her stream
That is, of course, unless this makes Zen blow up further and Zen drags it into the spotlight for her many more followers and viewers

>>103240510
That's cuz most of the dramafags just go to here to talk about xvsj drama instead lol
For any non-xvsj indie drama they go to /lig/ instead

Fuck yeah, reddit!

>>103240466
Go hang out with Mouse, Ari.

>>103240539
is Vei, Nyan, Silver or Mouse's in emote only right now?

schizo rrat time:
Mel bribed the ones who know what's goijng on (Mouse, Geega, Zen) so they won't rat her out. And clueless ones like Michi don't know shit.

Also, friendly reminder, as much as I hate Nux:
>Mel and Gunrun are in the discord call where Nux is given ok to post his video
>Later piles up on him with everyone and tweets how surprised and disappointed she was when he posted the video
>Nux response video surfaces, mentions the call stuff
>Mel deletes the tweet

I know most of you don't care about her, but if vshojo talent don't care about her at least ''we'' can help her, can we?

Everything I know about Arielle has been against my will. I fucking hate all of you.

>>103240548
It’s unhinged retards thinking you should care about random posts from Twitter or Reddit. I wouldn’t be surprised if the faggot posting this shit isn’t from /v/ they love to do this shit

>>103240580
Mouse's chat is

>>103240548
They agree with me so their posts are more important.

>>103240592
Ask Ari.

>>103240598
Now you know how I felt when this thread kept fixating on people like Pendrive, Hexer, etc
At least be glad that the thread is fixating on an actual vtuber for once

>>103240580
Mouse's chat is always in emote mode when she is offline

guys, don't pretend the reddit dragon isn't one of our girls

>>103240592
The fuck am I supposed to do, retard? Call up John Twitch?

>>103240587
Nux was right, and I'm tired of pretending that he was not.

>>103240637
lmao i'm not into this drama but you're sperging way too much, I was talking about vshojo talents

>>103240587
>Mel bribed the ones who know what's goijng on (Mouse, Geega, Zen) so they won't rat her out.
Anon, did you ever just stop and think that they're being quiet because they're balls deep in a pretty major legal battle and that oversharing on details will severly fuck up their case and lead to a countersuit? The simplest answer is often the correct one.

Why is nobody pushing that Henya is also ghosting Zen? That's, like, the strongest card to blame Zen.

>>103240592
i just hope Zen gets to do her collab with them when she feels okay to stream again, Zen said they are planning a collab the girl really needs it

>>103240592
All that we can do to help is watch which I've been doing. Shes hould have no problem hitting partner now though. The death of VShojo boost has led to her hitting 3view consistently

>>103240676
>dickriding a zog
not in 2025

>>103240676
Even if you were generous enough to clear nux on the vshojo stuff, he's done plenty of other shit that makes him a shitty person

So was Ironmouse the baddie?

>>103240676
this, i hate to admit it but nux was right this instance

>>103240587
How do you bribe Mouse while also stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her, moron-kun?

>>103240466
>Zen literally outed for being controlling and manipulative
trying to manipulate ari to play friendslop and control her free time with collabspam. evil cyborg dragon.

>>103240253
Menhera needs therapy and grass touching, not dickings or death
maybe some real friends too

>>103240726
she's a bad bitch

>>103240587
>>Mel and Gunrun are in the discord call
false. she made the call to connect everyone and fucked off to a VRC meet up.
nux leaked she was involved in vengeance and mel got harassed for it

>>103240713
Not dickriding, he was right about the Vshojo stuff.
>>103240719
Of course. Being right about this doesn't necessarily make him good.

>>103240676
I'm always gonna hate that guy for just being a very clearly stolen Sans x Red X OC

>>103240741
Thinking you have a friendship with someone and treating it like the two-way street that it is controlling and manipulative, anon.

>>103240510
/big/ is a board for a seemingly-random assortment of specific large vtubers who are united only in that they have too steady an audience to fit in /lig/ but not quite large enough to support a unique general.

>>103240411
Anyone who says Ari was "in the wrong" based on anything we know right now just hates Ari.

She had a ~20 minute stream to talk about the 800lb gorilla in the room that was Zen's Discord post, said she never wanted any of this to be public until she did that, said they haven't even talked in weeks so she isn't sure what suddenly prompted it, and even said she doesn't want all of this to be a source of pain for Zen either.

In terms of actual info, all she mentioned was that Zen "didn't like who she was hanging out with" on stream, which apparently didn't sit well with Ari. They tried to talk it out and move past it, but it wasn't the same afterward. And that was basically it.

good stream geegs

Arielle? More like whore

>>103240699
can i cope on a mouse collab with them? they would be pretty happy about it

>>103240687
Because we still really have no idea why or how that happened. They were super close, Henya took her break because of a family death, she came back and just never appeared on Zen's stream again. Its hard to say why. The only things that give us hints are that she's remained close to Mouse and now Ari, which really only seems to point towards possible manipulation on their ends to isolate Zen. Unless Zen somehow pulled the exact same thing with Henya that she did with Ari and that also backfired, but I dont think she was even particularly close with Mouse at that point so I dont know what wouldve compelled her to do that.

why did i fall in love with geega

>>103240772
He still handled the VShojo drama very poorly though, which is part of why a lot of people hated on him for it.
And he claimed that he doesn't think any of the girls were at fault and that VShojo was just manipulating them. Which while likely true, he didn't do anything about his rabid fanbase harassing the girls over it.

>>103240807
Seeing through Ari's bullshit is not "hating her", silly.

>>103240844
cus you are a cuck

>>103240201
They do if you rob already rich people, but, that's really it

>>103240802
Ah so that's why there are so many laimu fans in there

If they're against Zen, they're bad people. End of story, no exceptions. Even Henya.

So, i'm going to guess that the trigger for Zen's first discord message was ironmouse's background
ari for the longest time leeched (zen just saw it as boosting a friend at first) but when she noticed that she was hanging out with ironmouse more, she got upset, probably called her out on her leeching (this is the supposed zen being controlling part)
the nail in the coffin was seeing that ari showed up in ironmouse's background, and zen probably just spiraled

this is probably on both of them, zen feeling entitled to ari and her success, and ari feeling like she outgrew zen and wanted to leech more

that's my rrat

>>103240864
Oh sorry you don't hate her, you just """""""see through her bullshit"""""""".

>>103240864
Yea it’s honestly too much missing context to even dislike anyone. But we know for a fact ari stop taking yo zen for ????? reasons and wouldn’t collab with her for ????? reasons until we find out why it’s pointless to even debate

I will wait to see what Heavenly does

>>103240802
/big/ is /ferret+/ in disguise

>>103240928
he is watching henya

>>103240802
A decent amount of xvsjfags also post there sometimes when things get too hectic in here. I went there multiple times to post about Nyan while she's live.

>>103240927
>stop taking yo zen
Because Zen was trying to police who Ari hung out with on stream.
>wouldn't collab with her
Because she felt uncomfortable due to the previous reason.
You can just start out with the fact that you're going to ignore what Ari said, that's going to make this all a lot easier.

okay anyway, to what tag did you jerk off recently?

>>103240971
futa

>>103240253
Don't burn the witch
The ways of Hell aren't wrong
Don't burn the witch
Let them brew their song

>>103240807
>Zen's Discord post that majority of people don't even know exists.
>"800lb gorilla in the room"
are you retarded?

>>103240687
Henya is a retarded JP drone who intentionally takes actions to hurt herself because she thinks it is honorable. She was once driven to tears on stream for slipping up and making the mistake of implying that she still spoke to a close friend who also happened to be a former coworker in VOMS.

Genuinely, we have no idea if Henya stopped collabing with zen because zen internally announced her intent to leave and henya stayed and followed the NDA, if ari and mouse somehow poisoned her mind with DMs while she was away on grievance while zen was sitting on the sidelines waiting for her to come back, or if she rationally decided to stop communication for her own benefit.

>>103240835
Henya ghosts literally everyone in her life from time to time and it isn't malice she is just socially retarded.
Zen likely had a schizo crash out on Henya over getting ghosted because she had her mouse conspiracies going in her head and ruined the relationship.

>>103240802
/big/ is a joint /flip/, /haha/, /mint/, and /swarm/ colony that broke off from /lig/ because /lig/ is aids/cancer.

>>103240987

would you start watching solo or collab ari streams after this?

Is it odd Zen hasn't made a similar statement regarding Henya? Does she still think theres something there? IS there still something there? Was Ari so much more important to Zen that she deserved her own crashout?

>>103239675
Saw her for the first time live at FantomeThief. Great yapper, great singer, cool character concept. I hope she makes it big enough to get out of her wage job, she deserves it.

>>103240984
Is futa making a comeback in the big 25?
I don't even know good futa anymore

>>103241060
kek hell nahh

Thankfully even with all the drama we can all agree that Mouse is the reason this all began. It will be fun to see the fallout when Zen releases the google doc with the months of Mouse ghosting her.

>>103241060
if youre /here/, you're about to get a whole lot of ari collabs whether you like it or not.

>>103241094
Is clout chasing a crime?

>>103241094
So all you have is an apparition of nothingness

>>103240672
watch her streams faggot

>>103241024
I don't think there is that many /flip/ or /swarm/ posters there desu. You're also underrating the amount of /xvsj+/ posters there, some of them decided to go there when people were leaving vshojo one by one before the collapse

In other news I think I figured out why this Beri looked so fucking wrong. She's like 80% leg I've never made a card with that much fucking leg to body ratio it's crazy. Also she's got a BIG fucking FAT head. I had gone with the normal circular head proportions I tend to do but when i directly lined up the model with what I had been doing it wasn't even fucking close to how fucking spherical her head is. It's crazy. Also the head is massive. Anyway I think I've got it now.
>>103240971
The answer is always giantess

>>103240676
>>103240772
go suck yourself off nux

Holly hell bunny

>>103240780
his voice is as stamper ripoff too

>>103241094
I'd lose all respect for Zen I didn't even know I had left in me if it was just about Mouse ghosting her

Do you think Leave Out All The Rest is a little ruined now for Zen because she got Mouse to be in the song? That was probably weeks if not months before the song actually came out, so probably while they were still on good terms, but very unfortunate the likely cause of much of her suffering now is in a song about her personal struggles.

Mouse doko?

>>103240916

I think you guys are going too crazy with trying to draw strict, almost to-the-minute causal relationships to streams and Zen's behaviour.

Zen knew Ari was friends with Mouse, and that she continued to be. Ari has been friends with Mouse for a long time. I'm not sure why Ari being in her background, or Zen NOT being there when they've apparently had some kind of falling out, would be surprising to her or cause some kind of online crashout.

I will never understand the "leeching" narrative with Ari, unless it's just impossible for a smaller streamer to be anything but a "leech" in your eyes. By all accounts Zen was the one pinging her constantly to hang out, and it was natural that their paths would cross and they might become friends based on the pre-existing relationship Ari had with Haruka, who was also one of Zen's good friends. That's not "leeching" - that's just natural social networking.

shhh
enjoy streams

>>103240539
yes, but not for Ari's chat. her chat was always open, now it's locked with the mod announcement that they locking it in.

>>103241207
Flicking the bean to bibinos.

I hate 2025.

>>103241224
Pia ended and raided Coqui though

>>103241207
watching henya

>>103241133
Before the hack, /flip/ and /swarm/ were the main supporters of /big/ with a few /haha/anons, girliepop gooners, and a korean poster, keeping the thread alive. After the hack things changed and many people didn't return. Now it's mostly an Ex-corpo hangout (not saying that's a bad thing) just that the thread culture shifted a bit.

>>103241217
The background? No. Ari claiming Mouse is now her platonic soulmate something that Zen used to be to her? Yes.

>>103241163
Big evil silicon bazongas...

>>103241195
Zen could live with Mouse ghosting her, but she has not taken Mouse replacing her with Ari and then stealing Ari and isolating Henya from her as well.

I support the vtuber with the bigger tits
Hime my queen

Ari editor doxxing vtubers
https://x.com/Grxit/status/1953623926594052466

>>103240971
ntr

>>103241207
making new plans with ari after she fucked up the twitter response by not being vague enough and by implicating mouse

Zentreya started and is the cause of all this. All the rest is schizo babble.

>>103241067
Shes on her way
just keep up her consistency and yapping
shes very captivating

>>103240992
She was probably being questioned all over the place about what Zen said in a public forum, and felt like she needed to just say her piece to be done with it. Whether the "majority of people" knew about it or not is irrelevant. It was enough people that she felt the need to say something.

>>103241132
No.

Zen sounds like an exhausting person to keep around past the age of 25. Grownass adults

>>103241250
ngl, after watching her a bit the last couple weeks she'd fit right in at 3am

>>103241305
no actually im hacked zen's account and posted this
ZENTREYA INNOCENT!!!

>>103241265
I'm guessing a lot of them stayed at 8 instead?

Zen could commit suicide to guarantee that Ari gets hit with a mountain of shit

>>103241305
Looks like Zen has to come out and actually provide details about what this was all about now.

>>103241368
Good.

>>103240676
I sided more with him at the time even though he is scum.
Both perspectives on how to deal with the fake site situation were valid because they were looking after their own interests.
The only real issue is vshojo rounding up a lynch mob in response.
Just breaking all ties with him and saying they wanted to handle the situation differently and don't agree with what he did would have been fine but they got really extra in their response.

>>103241292
Jesus. Is there anybody involved in this in any way that isn't a dick?

>>103241305
The ari/mouse and zen breakup has become increasingly obvious and increasingly public as time has gone on, and we have all seen people in zen chat TTS spamming about the next time she is going to organize a collab with ari or mouse. She had to say something eventually.

>>103240918
Stay mad, white knight.

>>103241292
based

Asmon x Mouse collab when????

Geega so cute

>>103241305
The quickness of the post and lack of proof reading tells me this was an emotional spur of the moment thing that made sense at that time

>>103241094
>https://poal.me/gwary9
Sorry zenfag you should kys now

>>103241368
>you see I'm in the right for telling ari to stop being friends with mouse because they wouldn't play nightreign with me

>>103241368
No? Just saying "I fucked up I'm sorry this is all my fault and I want to do better I'm taking a week off anyone who starts any shit with anyone on my behalf will be personally executed." and she's good.

>>103241274
>"one of my"

How dare she use superlatives to refer to one of her friends celebrating a career milestone, while also using language that specifically implies she's not the only person she holds in such esteem.

When people post things like "my queen!", do you take that as some kind of pledge of allegiance too?

>>103241292
>doxxing
I don't see him doxxing anyone.

>>103241401
They already have

>>103241414
That's a Silverfag.

>>103241387
I don't care about your schizo fart bubbles. I only take tangible proof into consideration and I'm afraid the only thin I see is a sociopath discord post

>>103241274
Learn to read. It clearly says 'one of'

Good night
I'll be honest, I've been a fan for half a decade now
I love them
but shit is happening so fast, so often, that I'm running out of sympathy.
I'm tired, my heart is tired

>>103241292
Ohhhhh
Is Ari associated with SilvySpark? I immediately understand the dynamics at play if she was

>>103240927
For me, the most definitive proof that Ari is in the wrong (aside from the disaster of her recent stream) is that the fact that Heavenly dropped her and was consoling Zen.

>>103241430
What was the fuck-up? Announcing the sudden breakup? Breaking up at all over whatever? There are still going to be questions and it's still going to be awkward when battle lines were suddenly forced in between xvsjs.

>>103241471
lol if you think is bad then you're not ready for the mel bombshell

Ari should post more discord messages between her and xvsj members on twitter for more clout. She really wants you to know that they're friends haha. Did you know she's friends with Henya?

>>103241513
Yes obviously the fuckup was announcing it without consulting anyone and causing a huge stir. It can (and should) remain a private matter and revealing it isn't going to help anyone.

>>103241292
why are you linking /pol/phaseniggers in our thread?

>>103241488
>SilvySpark
I'm unfamiliar, who the fuck are they/what have they done?

>>103241343
I don't even really give a shit about who is right or wrong here - and it may not even be that simple. But fuck me am I tired of people who have decided they like Zen more than Ari bending over backwards to pretend Zen has been some clearly besieged rational actor here.

I think this hobby has turned me into a misogynist

>>103241488
he is her friend and a collab partner, he also supported Marina during the HL drama

>>103241292
That's not her editor. Her editor is Saji.

>>103241559
this, guy's just some fucking dramachud

>>103241580
A bit late there champ, highschool should have clued you in.

>>103241580
It was supposed to be the other way around.

>>103240965
keep white knighting

>>103241292
Nigga that's not doxing lmao. Unironically it was KF who doxed the guy, and the guy was literally vtubing as nazi Miku with a voice changer. So anyone who has any amount of sympathy for him is retarded

>>103241414
>mfw hitting airplane mode to change my IP to vote multiple times for both options while stroking my cock to femboy on female hentai

>>103241601
>he also supported Marina during the HL drama
oof
Y I K E S

wait so zen was the evil woman?

Zen won
https://files.catbox.moe/ekitop.jpeg

>>103241305
sure sure lil buddy

>>103241689
Anybody publicly vouching for her or supporting her?

>Anon just brings up someone completely unrelated to any of this
>"Look at this guy! He said it's good that an open Nazi got outed! We should hate him for that!"

>>103241715
me

>Squchan was almost in, we could have had a Hungarian space cat. FUCK YOU GUNRUN
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2532695168?t=05h28m16s

>>103241555
Given Zen's primary content and the community she cultivated people honestly would not have shut up about Ari for awhile. Henya too. If Zen cared THIS much about Ari to even announce it every TTS was probably a little stab for her too. Its fine she announced it, maybe shouldve been a little more curt about it like Katie was. If she was meaner, it wouldn't invite the idea she was hurt and wouldn't put as much hate on Ari, just speculation. The drunk stream afterwards did not help, she was hurting a lot.

>>103241717
it's so desperate lol

>>103241445
rent free

>>103241601
If that's who zen was warning her about, I might actually be back on the zen train. He still acted retarded about it but I'd be wary of that dude too.

>>103241738
If she's talking about 2021 then that applies to like 30 other people anon it's not news at this point. If that applies to 2024 then that's actually news

>>103241305
got so mad they ari turned the page and was having fun with her new crew that zen went with this. I can't believe she did out petty silver.

>>103241745
>maybe shouldve been a little more curt about it like Katie was
do I have to post this literally every fucking thread? Zen was completely professional outside of rrats about the timing.

>>103241354
Stayed on 8 and/or to spread out posting in and keeping up with multiple threads on different sites.

>>103241745
I mean she could have done it the way Katie did. Maybe even consulted Ari so they both had prepared statements to go out at the same time so that it would give off the appearance of being amicable and stave off any rrats. There are ways to inform people of this kind of thing to stop awkward messages without causing a firestorm

>>103241738
she was not 'almost in', there were dozens of other vtubers that made it that far too. seemingly anyone who wasnt a 2view nobody got past the first round or two

>>103241414
this >>103240302 post exactly

>>103241285
>Zen could live with Mouse ghosting her, but she has not taken Mouse replacing her with Ari and then stealing Ari and isolating Henya from her as well.

Ignoring that you pulled this completely out of your own ass, how on earth would she "isolate" Henya from Zen? What does that even mean? How does Mouse continuing to be friends and occasionally doing late night ad-hoc collabs with Ari equate to "replacing" Zen with Ari when it's the exact same shit they did when Ari and Zen were still friends?

Have people just memory-holed that Ari and Mouse have also been friends for a long while now?

>>103241601
You sure Ari is friends with this guy? Seems like someone who would hate Mouse.

>>103241715 (me)
There's Matara. Annnnd that's it. Not even Geega. Whew.

>>103241781
>I love you
They were fucking, weren't they?

>>103241815
They might have been at some point. Apparently he made a list of people he hates and threw a lot of people under the bus though, including her. https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1953513533917823213

I really hope it wasn't about him, because if he still shit on her like that afterward, it's pretty bad.

>>103241819
mata has no clue what the tweet is even about kek

>>103241798
Last thread and this one is this post exactly, not just the poll lmao

>>103241781
That message is clearly about Froot but the announcement itself for Froot was a lot shorter and to the point. Just by not having both messages be linked it puts less hate and blame on Froot.

>>103241790
I think Zen's issue vs Katie's is that Katie at the point she did that stream had already processed and moved on from Froot and seemed a little hateful or bitter at the end of it all. Zen clearly has NOT moved on and is still processing things and whatever final decision there was between the two probably did not go the way Zen wanted so she seems a lot more lingering sadness on Zen's part. So making that announcement NOW and then following it up with the drunk stream put all the hate from people wanting to defend Zen or stir shit on Ari.

>>103241819
Mata supports excessive drinking.

>>103241781
>Zen was completely professional
That drunk stream was anything but professional.

Bros... I'm really tired.... when does it finally start getting better...

my favortite poketuber is streaming euro truck simulator or some other truck diving game honestly i'm not an expert
what do i do now

>>103241889
what if NDA's expired tomorrow

>>103241781
Katie did know froot IN REAL LIFE. you fucking parasocial retard. Zen and Ari never met each other. That how weird it is for zen.

>>103241869
anon this message was sent hours before the stream where she said "i am never talking about froot again, if you mention froot in my chat you will be banned".
If you think this is a reach, linking the discord post to zens drunk stream is even more of a reach.

>>103241889
Don't worry it will get worse before it gets better

>>103241889
silver streams tomorrow

>>103241819
ok ok mata is team zen interesting

You know how the thread used to joke the org is full of evil women. Satan? Melware? Eldritch horror? Lich? Imperialst dragon/robot hybrid that invades planets and rapes all the men and boys? And old hag demon general with an eye patch who grooms little boys? Haha funny lore stuff it's all for fun, right?. Surely the girls aren't actually evil bitches who turn on each other at the drop of the hat right?

>>103241696
Ngl, after Ari's stream I unironically think that she really did

I trust Mata.

>>103241889
October.

>>103241696
I appreciate that this is giantess but nothing else about it

>>103241715
her first tweet? no one.
her last tweet after she threatened to kill herself ?only mata.

>>103241935
>Surely the girls aren't actually evil bitches who turn on each other at the drop of the hat right?
Welcome to content creation.

I think zen should probably take some months off and work on her self-esteem and/or attachment issues (though with vshojo having taken the money and ran, I'm not sure if she can afford to do that currently). She also needs real, non-streamer friends, which I'm unsure that she has considering her recent stream.

Can we get an update on the VShojo member evilness tier list?

I wonder if it wouldve been better if that mutal hadn't told Zen to retract her message about Ari. The message itself WAS fine, and it wasn't inaccurate. Zen said she pulled the trigger because she was emotional, which made me think she jumped to a conclusion and things could still be worked out with Ari. But now we know, no, things have been over for awhile and will not be restored. So why retract the statement? Just let Zen tell everyone to stop asking her about Ari.

Surely...
SURELY
It can't possibly get any worse from here?

>>103241950
>I trust Mata
lol

>>103241869
Yeah, zen should have just quietly dropped ari and also stepped away from mouse and henya and i guess froggy and literally everyone else that ari poisoned the well with and I guess haruka too now?

I mean, at this point it is obvious that the correct outcome was indeed to wash her hands of them, but at the time making the ari schism public was not a way to handle ari but a desperate attempt to save the few friendships that ari hadn't been going behind her back to poison, not knowing that it was too late and there was nothing left to save.

>>103242002
check dms

Should Geega organize a parley

>>103241985
All of them are evil except for Michi, Henya, and Mata. The rest are EVIL WHORES.

>>103241983
Said it yesterday but yes Zen needs to take that time off entirely and work on things. Wallowing in despair and self pity isn't going to improve things

>>103241985
evil: mel, nazuna, zen, vei
not evil: everyone else

>>103242002
Shut up

>>103241950
I trust mata (to be completely out if the loop)

>>103242024
You forgot Kuro, he's a saint.

>>103241414
arifag, you're being VERY pathetic right now

>>103242022
Geega should burn bridges with both parties after stabbing them both in the back

>>103241979
It's not just content creation, it's the entertainment industry as a whole. The biggest difference between Hollywood and the streamer industry is that most celebs have some sort of PR training or a PR firm helping them while streamers don't.

>>103242053
kuro is a succubus and stole my nocturnal emissions

What if Ari is a paid agent of Vshojo/Gunrun that's main purpose is to break of the gang after Vshojo's collapse to spite them????????????

>>103242017

General GEEGA sends her regards.

>>103241292
Oh wow I was almost worried until I saw it's the vtard group
Can I donate to the doxxers? I'd love to support them

>>103242017
FUCKING KEK LOSER BITCH

>>103241983
Zen said she recently went out to a mall with friends and watched a movie but I'm not sure separate irl friends are really the same when they can never know what she does and never relate to that side of her. She needs to visit the friends she already has. Actually make them friends beyond anything but the screen. Go to cons and see the people she loves so much.

>>103242061
Geega should stab me in the back, front, my head, torso, legs, just wherever really

>>103242082
Some schizo actually tried running with that rrat briefly after the org collapsed lol

>>103242126
Could do with a little less illiteracy but true.

>>103242126
Uh oh mousefags our queen is being called out. Our response?

>>103238562
You're trying a bit too hard with the deflection, arifag. Your oshi fucked up royally, there's no room for doubt. She is at fault, not Zen, but keep spamming on a cooldown and try to pin it on her.

>>103241889
Fat Man hasn't even dropped yet.

>>103239969
Ari*
ftfy
keep trying

>>103242126
Mousespergs and Zenfags shouldn't actually want Mouse to weigh in on this, it would not end well for them
Remember Mouse killed the whole org with just one video

>>103241217
That's the thing, idiots here assume being friends with somebody who is a bigger streamer than you means you are a leech. It's the same with the mod cast shit going on with Michi ATM.

>>103242161
>>103242189
the fuck is wrong with geckoes

>>103241889
Bad news comes in 3s
>vshojo implosion
>zenhera moment
>?

>>103242219
Preggo announcement.

I lobe geega sho much

>>103242212
Remember when zenfags were shitting on mousefags for being hyper sensitive on defending Mouse? Just look at them now the second Zen is under fire kek

>>103242206
It's entirely spergs who do that because they don't have actual reasons to hate someone. So they go for universal reasons. If someone is smaller than their oshi, then that person is a leech. If the person they hate is a male, then that person is a sexpest. None of it's grounded in reality and I can't think of any legitimate leeches the group has ever had to deal with.

The wheel of fate turns and the gods demand a sacrifice. Which soul will you give to soothe the chaos?

>>103242098
If she does have friends outside of streaming, then why is she crashing out so hard over this friendship and feeling alone? My completely uneducated guess is that she might have some anxiety/fears of being used as a stepping stone for other streamers, but I have no idea.

>>103242219
Geega reveals she's not actually donating used socks to the next charity auction

>>103242161
yeah, you have to be unironically retarded to think that ari is innocent after that stream that she did couple of hours ago

>>103242259
Mel

lol all of this could have been avoided if Zen just ignored 2-3 tts messages and didnt made a discord post

>>103242212
It's not geckoes it's Arischizos. They need an angle to attack Ari from regardless of how stupid it is and this is the one they've gone for

>>103242272
>anxiety/fears of being used as a stepping stone for other streamers
Well she definitely will now seeing how easily Ari left her behind for her new platonic soulmate. If someone as close to her as Ari could do it, anyone could

>>103242272
shes pretty explicitly said on stream that she worries about that even before this

>>103242212
>>103242250
>>103242309
you're not being subtle at all

>>103242192
Mouse didn't kill an org
She just decided she didn't want to be a lap dog anymore and pull one card of a house of cards called VShojo. Eventually all of this stuff was going to get out

>>103242272
>My completely uneducated guess is that she might have some anxiety/fears of being used as a stepping stone for other streamers
I'm pretty sure she's already talked about having this exact fear.

Is the Geega fanbase in xvsj the most separate from the general culture

>>103242250
>it’s ___fags
>no it’s ___fags
I’m starting to think you idiots don’t realize it’s rrat and drama fags

>>103242192
The org killed itself, mouse dragged its corpse around for a year trying to recruit idols until it hurt her charity.

>>103242378
>the general
She's my general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7zNFEfXx008
It is a bad time for you guys

>>103242378
No
The Vei fanbase are. The Silver fanbase is a close 2nd.
The Nyan fanbase and Geega fanbase are probably tied after that

>>103242380
Arifag is getting very desperate and still trying to pin it on zenfags, even though majority of Ari's viewers are exactly them.

>>103242367
First one was me and I wasn't trying to be subtle
So thanks?

>>103242378
nazuna is in the OP

>>103242378
No it's the veifags. We literally have veifags who came back since 2023 who have no idea who ari is lol

Holy shit.

>>103242434
Thanks for the confession, even though we had no doubts.

>>103242452
>who have no idea who ari is lol
I envy them

>>103241990
Ari didnt want zen to ever go public, because she wanted to continue to milk zens audience without actually needing to deal with the burden attached to it.

>>103242039
What makes Vei evil? She tried to warn people.

>>103242473

>>103242501
her titties made me lose nnn

>>103241985

>>103242039
>evil
>mel
>zen
lol
lmao

>>103242541
I don't understand this

>>103242371
she lit killed an org

>>103241990
I think is funny how this situation is
>Zen "I'm too fucked up, Ari and I aren't friends, I wish her the best, be respecful... shit nvm *deletes message* somoene told me off, retract that. *gets wasted and suicidal because she fucked up*"
>Ari: "ZEN TOLD ME I SHOULD LEAVE MOUSE. ZEN IS THE ONE, ZEN IS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq4k1V1K52g "

>>103242371
I mean she did kill an org. It's just that no one would put it against her because given what we know now it deserved to be killed lol.

>>103242473
Crazy how she was in tears a few hours ago and now she's fucking acting all buddy buddy with Michi's mods and her chat.

killed a mata bait thread with this one. momos can thank me later
>>103242622
>>103242622
>>103242622

>>103242541
Silver is in asshole tier for also publicly airing dirty laundry

>>103242541
How is Froot not in dick tier and Vei isn't in bitch tier?

>>103242473
I'm glad that I don't watch Mouse, and that Michi streams too late for me to watch her, and that Henya barely collabs anyway so I never have to see or hear Ari ever again. I'm finally free.

>>103242605
>>103242574
Nah, VShojo already had seppuku themselves.
Mouse was just the Kaishakunin

>>103242501
She's a confident woman.

>>103238570
and also Aura, Sansin, Liz (Ama's and CyYu's friend), Teru, Taiga...

>>103242516
That’s a you problem

>>103242656
froot is more of a bitch than a dick
and vei is more of an asshole than a bitch.

>>103242608
Not really that crazy. She's a (manipulative) sociopath, it's normal for them to act like this.

>>103242643
Silver and Vei are in bro tier because they were right about the org the whole time and were trying to warn everyone, but keep seething.

>>103242126
What has Mouse done to "throw shade" on anyone? As far as I can tell she has simply ignored all of it and said nothing publicly, which is what a mature adult does even if random strangers like us would like answers..

The people acting like middle schoolers are the ones non-stop rrating about it like Jason here, demanding a reply about a bunch of stuff that is none of his business at best, and could still not even involve Mouse at worst.

"Mouse quit acting like an immature kid. I've been spending weeks monitoring your social media follows and can see that you and Zen are no longer following each other..."

>>103242541
You left out feebee, and she's a pure seiso angel fyi