>>103244198 (OP)*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/>https://streamscharts.com/
>WORLD TOUR
>JAPAN and SHANG HAI
KEK!!!
>>103244361did the shang hai one even happen
>>103244418Yeah but it was two 3rd-string JPs and three NijiENs, so nobody cared.
Since we're like schizo-ing right now, CC's 3D reveal tweet has now surpassed Gigi's 3D reveal tweet
>>103244426>botted threads
>>103244484>What do you wanna see?Her cunny
>first ex-niji to join hololive is fucking ike
>>103244529that was Hime you newfag
>>103244529>hololive>maleDid your brain stop working
>>103244529phase cuck new fag
KEK!!!!
>>103244529Wrong thread lignigger
everyone is playing battlefield 6 early access thats why the whole board is slow
https://lulavyr.carrd.co/
ใใญใกใณ got translated to hololivers
>>103244647The board enters a state of embarrassment whenever either a Holo yab is disproven or a ligger yab happens
The Shylily Google Dockey might be the beginning of a yab so might as well retreat before the Holokeks laugh
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>>103244418https://x.com/drsx_rojeu/status/1943951962514338270
>>103244529>male>hololive
>>103244786there were more people at the flopmouse concert...
I can't remember what happened but I think Bae lost and didn't pay or something.
It has been many years.
>>103244647You can start another loop of Nimi seething again if you want.
>>103244824>many years>2 yearsanon do you have bad memory
>>103244786Niji is functionally dead everywhere except Japan and even Japan is starting to reject such a boring and monotone product
>>103244872Glad to see you're proving my point, it's lower than 2024's peak
...also it's botted but let's not think about that
>>103244314ERB pfp
Fucking tumor
>>103244856>dead everywhere except JapanYou take that back! They're huge in the Shenzhen racks!
>>103244901You cannot seethe about Hololive's strongest partner.
>>103244872Didn't their sponsor drop them?
>>103244901It's not bots. Riku just likes to watch baseball from 100,000 smart fridges simultaneously.
>>103244539>TIL male haganyways, numbers?
You might hate nijisanji but they are on equal influential prowess as hololive, because as far as I know, Niji JP is on equal terms with Holo JP.
With that much influence the partnership that Hololive made with Nijisanji to combat defamation of talents (but if we are being real here this is probably JP focused) is extremely well done that I doubt anyone would even try defaming their JP talents.
>>103244947Did she announce guest beforehand?
>>103244484As much as I love CC, Gigi set a VERY high bar for her 3D. I'm not sure if CC can clear it. Like, my oshi is Biboo and her 3D was great, but even Biboo's 3D debut cannot match the pinnacle that was Gigi's.
>>103244939niji is a sponsor scam
>>103244731Something smells fucky about this art... The tako sand sculpture is really off model
So are Justice in the EN concert since they'll have 3ds?
>>103245039isn't it drawn by ina herself?
FAGcord and Plebbitors are posting again
>>103245047Yes, watch streams and you'd know this.
>>103245014Entertainment wise, maybe. But that's subjective. We are monkeys and we seek numbers, and there's a very high chance she'll be top CCV in Justice
Notice how the hologods still haven't beaten the indie debut peak of 300k+
>>103245014CC has a trump card on her sleeve. If she has a CCGG moment on 3D, all the lesbian sisters will kneel simultaneously and she will win
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>>103245181Sakuna ch is dead
>>103244719What game is that? Did I miss something?
Oh, there was additional tickets earlier, and they already got sold.
>>103245215Is this how we cope with Indies holding a debut world record?
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Doooby!~
>>103245249nobody even mentioned that anymore outside #
also Saba debut made more splash despite lower ccv
>>103245014>loud = funny>random = funnyShe didn't do that much better than ERB minus the bots.
EN5 will be kitanya, nyana banyana and 2 non vtuber girls.
They will be the first gen of DEVIS EN that will be more focused on idol activities similarly to DEVIS JP
>>103245249Yeah you can have it no prob, poor Sakuna...
>>103245215I would've thought Sakuna would be the most popular ex-holo given that gigantic debut, but Saba is somehow higher AND more active than her
>>103245215Doesn't change the fact that Sakuna, an Ex-Holo, holds the world record for the greatest vtuber Debut ever funny that she also holds the greatest record ever in history as Aqua via her graduation
>>103245290How tf can she stream and do more when she can't use the Gaou model and has to change into a new one (she's currently doing so). Gaou basically sabotaged her future as an indie
>>103245296What, I don't even watch sakuna bro, she is probably botted as hell.
And the best debut was clearly Nimi, I mean look at this lil creature
>>103245091That's nothing like her artstyle
>>103245224he didn't go anywhere? he's still on the roster
>>103245157Based on what? I don't watch her enough to know her strengths except tgat she's fairly willing to put herself out there
Its quite unlikely but, in the event that Advent was actually granted a "Sololive", realistically how would this board react knowing there are lots of Mythfags and Promisefags here who are not-so-happy that Advent apparently gets some favoritism?
>>103245269One of the very few ships that was genuine from the start.
>>103245224He was supposed to join Vshojo, but you know...
>>103245296This is why everyone ridicules CCV now. Both Coco and Aqua made CCV record, but it's irrelevant to their popularity now.
>>103245352different times anon back then there was world wide pandemic.
Myth and promise would've had multiple sololives by now if not for that
>>103245224Whats the new rrat? He Nimiโs husband or something, pls QDR Iโm out of the loop
What's with the sudden Ike rrat
>>103245312She wasn't streaming much before the Gaou incident, averaging about 1 stream per week, usually having mini hiatuses and short return bursts
She was most active last Dec, where she had 11 streams total
>>103245318>Nimi's 90+k versus Sakuna's 383kbruh Nimi ain't even close. Sakuna is still the 3rd place overall just behind Coco and Aqua kek
>>103245269BUT WHAT ABOUT NIMI!?!?
>>103245349>Music chuuba are very much good tourist bait>Good humour, will probably try to cater to all unlike GG which brute forced the comedy so hard (but yet still successful)>Will probably be lighter on skits which notoriously kept JP tourists for checking in for Gigi's 3D>Has been steadily building JP mindshare, got into a JP offcollab, JP meme tournament AND in PekoMari morning >Higher chance for JP guests (Sora or Roboco)>Saturday morning JST, Jap tourist time buffed by previous pointAll of these will buff the fuck out of her 3D CCV
>>103245352favoritsm is a meme used by nijinigs to start holo vs holo same as golden gen, actual fans would be happy for anything that EN gets because they're all apart of the same branch up against the titan of holoJP
>>103245425shut the hell up you nimifags, get your stinking faggot whore nimi out of here.
And this isn't even about Nimi having a relationship status or her cucking her fans, it's her openly stating she is in a relationship basically making all her fans and herself too face the force equivalent to a social execution.
Every one of her fans would get called cucks or cuck supporters, regardless of how they feel about her.
INA OKAYU KURUKURU CRUISE 100K DORYAAAAAAA
>>103245352We'll be upset about it for a week
Then we'll watch it and cheer for them
As always
>>103245455Betting my balls CCโs 3D debut is lower than even Shiori
https://youtu.be/rRfcFBYRtEs
>>103245375Ccv records>ccv average
I've been reading CCGG fanfiction on AO3 and I'm terrified by the lack of creativity and SOVL in the minds of Autofister sisters. Little to no expressions of love in any chapter, just teenager brooding and angst, like a shitty Netflix movie, there is no romance.
Even the sex's kinda shit.
>>103245511Half of them are kids theyโre probably still taking creative writing
>>103244872This is worse than previous years despite bringing Kuzuha back
>>103245211I donโt think any EN has shown up in 3D in their genmates 3D showcase
>>103245542Only Dusty Ruffians browse fanfic.net and I would rather watch Niji than go to Wattpad.
>>103245511i rather have vanilla than vore or ntr on my fanfic
>>103245476This is just a pointless grudgepost. She's 2nd in popularity to GG. Grems will check her out out of curiosity, JPs will check her out, etc. The question is whether she'll surpass ERB or not. Honestly Justice 3Ds are a bit grim in terms of CCTV but I hope there'll be an outlier among it all
>>103245511>Reading fanfiction written by 18-20 year teensI rather be shot first than do thus
>>103245352I already got 2 sololives, a Sololive guest appearance, multiple guest appearances at actual concerts including at Budoukan, virtual lives with KAF, and the World Tour I think Iโll survive
>>103245269Still no Nimi mention btw
>>103245594Hey here is a fun piece of trivia.
The last cripple Gold won by Nimi to this date was on July 20th, the day before the LLD.
>Phase talents already streaming Battlefield 6
>meanwhile Hololive still stuck with Expedition 33, etc
ffs hurry up with those perms, at least try to catch up to the latest gaming trends, Hololive!
>>103245594I am convinced there is still somehow one cuck just feeding her bots, I guess he gets an erection just looking at numbers being happy that Nimi is getting high numbers
It is probably for attention, and he has no love for Nimi himself.
That's why illustrations are the superior delulu medium
Gigi: Letโs k-โฆ kissโฆ?
Cece: Huh!?
Gigi: Letโs try?
Cece: โฆ
Gigi: You donโt wanna?
Gigi: How about we try it? The two of us?
Cece: โฆ
Gigi: Letโs try it?
sfx: BA-DUMP BA-DUMP
>>103245621>preordering an EA gamedisgusting
Can we stop talking about Nimi and Saba for one fucking thread. The world doesn't fucking revolve around them
>>103245663That's the real deal, love! Cuteness!
Not just UUUUUUU I'M SO BROKEN AND TRAUMATIZED AND SAD AND I'LL ONLY RECOVER BY HAVING SEX BUT ALSO I HAVE A DICK SINCE THE AUTHOR IS 12 AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW LESBIAN SEX LOOKS UUUUU
>>103245663where the fuck did you people come from
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>>103245692>the world doesn't fucking revolve around themCorrect, it only revolves around for Gura and Saba
>>103245686if Hololive shills us slop, we obliged to buy. no expections.
>>103245692Yeah we should talk about Saba and Dooby and their squishy cunnies
>>103245716Oh sorry. We'll get back to our daily scheduled Nimi and Sabaseethe
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>>103245814ashton kutcher is an oji-san now
truth
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>>103245845Where has he been actually?
>>103245574She'll probably be lower than her in SCs if ERB and GG are anything to go by, but CCV is almost guaranteed to be higher since Shiori was hit hard by YouTube culling views.
>fwmc made a shill stream for their still-not-200k-views song
grim...
>>103245476I'll wait for your balls tomorrow
>>103245815>>103245828>Made in Godot>Game breaksWtf were they thinking?
>>103245783>noooooooo don't make fun of me for funding Nimi's boyfriend's sex life for yearsCrying here won't give you your money back
>>103245277She was also overlapped by Saba
>>103245902Anyone who watches Saba can't possibly have any interest in Gigislop so the overlap wasn't relevant
>>103245893they made the game in godot??
>>103245918and you are wrong
>>103245277How can a prerecorded 3D debut be random?
Can you only repeat buzzwords incorrectly without forming your own opinions?
Your post reeks of joyless faggotry.
>>103245878what was the proof of being culled, how come the 3d debut one day after hers wasnt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1A76PvsqD
actually sounds good
>>103245968she bleeded 2k, the overlap is there. I'm sorry to break your narrative but the audiences are pretty mixed
It looks like Zen is the first one that they are all going to turn on
>>103245981>bleededESL retard
>>103245981>90% of her viewers would rather watch her play re4 than a 3d debutthe overlap is miniscule even if she wasn't live it would have barely made another 2k difference
>>103245922Only for the Custom Mode. They still use Frosbite Engine for the campaign.
>>103245957It happened to be right on the final day of YouTube messing with CCV in general.
It's fairly clear when looking at SCs compared to CCV, Shiori was not very far behind Nerissa, yet Nerissa was a whole 20k viewers higher (40k vs 60k)
>>103245962what is this, is this a hacking link?
>>1032460922k isn't irrelevant though (and that's just speculation, probably could've been more considering 2k kainikis already tabbed to gg while saba was still streaming). for instance, if saba had ~2k more people she would've reached 20k that stream. I don't get this whole narrative of claiming kanikis necessarily don't watch anything else if saba isn't on
What happened to Bijou's stream? I heard it fucking died several times?
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>>103246184She got hit with the Mori Curse
>>103245746I haven't bought any Chillas Art game
>>103246184American internet.
>>103246125>using scs to determine ccvso you have no proof and it just conveniently was the last day
>>103246125>SCs compared to CCV
Things aren't looking good for our scalper friends.
>Fishman botting an ad stream
This is... pathetic
>>103246243CCVID was very real though.
It sounds like a convenient coincidence but it really just so happened to be the last day it affected streams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJJFIFzvvM
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Make clips for your streams like Asmongold
>>103246427>>103246365Oh are you talking about Clio's 5k CCV?
I actually got raided into there after I was with Eimi.
>>103246423are you sure? Usually niji women don't get many numbers (unless they are top dogs' accessories, see meloco and similar)
>>103246339they have what two weeks left
kek
>>103246339Are they still trying to pawn off their tickets?
>>103246339fucking brats are such retards
>>103246339https://x.com/KosmoKami/status/1953637667826008352
>noooooo don't sell more official tickets before I can sell my 6 scalped ticketslmao
>>103246452>5khow about 8k? With like 10 active chatters
>>103246485Mori center, huh?
Ewwghh
>>103246423>friday debuff>literal who 3D niji debut buff>niji whore debuff>king engine buffI say 60k
>>103245621Botan was gonna play it, but she wants to upgrade her PC before that. No other girls have interest on it so far.
>>103246485>when I post lies on the internet and then repost lies on the internet
We need a new box game arc, this 7dtd shit is boring as hell
>>103246509the game surely LOOKS demanding in hardware, is it heavy?
>>103246459idk she's one of the debuts from 2018 it will be a bad look if the portuguese don't show up for support
>>103246509She's planning to play it over the weekend, she already built a new PC, she just didn't use it for streaming yet.
>>103246502This is a mori thread
https://www.youtube.com/live/0SvuriSKB9k
https://www.youtube.com/live/0SvuriSKB9k
https://www.youtube.com/live/0SvuriSKB9k
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>>103246485LAUGH AT THIS BRAT
future holoen concerts probably won't sell out anymore since scalpers are pulling out
>>103246184MW2 keeps crashing. Probably some compatibility thing with win11.
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>>103246563Brats are so stupid thinking buying excess tickets would actually be smart.
They need to be corrected
>>103246556Is Mori the only pillar left? Kiara is idol-like but bad singer. Mumei is gone, but she was never center material. Bae and Irys (both red too somehow) lack popularity. Advents too new and you can't put twins as center. This branch is fucked, isn't it?
>>103246589"people" say things like this about every holoen concert, just to be proven wrong every year... doesn't it get boring?
>>103246339>>103246563are these scalper brats not going to get their asses kicked when they show up at AFO?
>>103246571>75GBFuck modern gaming
>>103246617no? we are not animals
>>103246617Yeah
By my dick
>brats
Nice organic 4am thread
>>103246606Instead of a sole talent, you have Advent as a collective being pillars of EN. Not individually.
>>103246606it's ok kaniki, you don't have to cry I'm sure saba will get a concert next year with ironmouse and wendy charleston
>>103246617You mean this brat who started this whole fucking fiasco is not getting punched or kicked or get fucking mauled?
I am so disappointed, especially since he loves BAE SO SO MUCH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>103246617they might get side-eyed by a couple people but no one is going to talk shit to them or anything like that
>>103246680>>103246670real talk no one will even go face-to-face insult them because they don't want to get ousted by the community or targeted.
People will call us "low-lives" for targeting the brats for some reason.
>>103246617Do it yourself
>>103246698>for some reason
>>103246659Whatever you say, Botventrix
>>103246522>Star Citizen>Supermarket Simulator>Civi 5 MULTIPLAYER (maybe even a mini-tournament of sorts)>Vintage Story (can make a server ala minecraft)
>>103246670Bro really thought it was a good idea to make this shitty plan while having revealed his face.
He got either balls or he is fucking dumb
>>103246751>Satisfactory>V rising>Sea of thieves(private server, next year)
gonna be a shit ton of empty seats but if this experience turns off scalpers for future concerts its good in the long run
I will be attacking all brats at AfO
>>103246606So fucked that their 12K tickets gone within minutes. Imagine if they weren't fucked, damn, they would've sold out a dome concert in seconds!
>>103246784>>Sea of thievesiirc this is limited to only 4 players per team/ship
>>103246698No one is gonna get their shit kicked in, it's not like they're attacking anyone or the girls, they're just particularly scummy with the scalping, AfO is anyhow releasing more tickets so the fans have an opportunity to get one, these retards can hold onto their wasted tickets that they've already bought
>>103245744I LOVE THE BIBIDIBUM~
>>103246698>low-livesI will never get tired of reading morons seethe in a language they don't understand
>>103246804Well I'm glad to be an Otomo, where are the other femtomos?
>>103245511Welcome to fanfiction. Majority if it is done by virgin teen girls.
>>103246804Cute boy. I can almost see his cute features through all that blur
>>103246804cute but has mental illness
>>103246810Thats good though?
We want them to compete and ram each other
>>103246841hmmm wouldn't matter if i can get to her cooch
she can be corrected with some dicking
>>103246850that would mean multiple teams and ship-ohhh yeah yeah you're correct, I was thinking about them joining some servers but you mean a private server, yes that could work
>>103246841>Loves every Myth member (past and present) except ameI'm nooooticing
Any chance the Hololive girls can do this kind of big minecraft events?
https://youtu.be/ef568d0CrRY
https://youtu.be/ef568d0CrRY
>>103246771the idea was retarded but the shit talking made it way worse
>>103246893>1000 playerswe don't even have 1% of that
>>103246617Why don't you do it? You are attending AFO surely
>>103246816It's always homofags and homocollaber fans that manage to waste their money
At least this time the money goes to all the girls I guess, but i really don't know how they managed to lose in total thousands of dollars on extra tickets that no one wants
>>103246423Holo male gold today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
>>103246913I mean the kind of "Minecraft Civilization roleplay" events thing, kinda like ENReco but less weird fantasy shit and more on the whole minecraft civilization rp
>>103246841not liking ame
>>103246893all the popular girls will end up getting perma killed in the first days then it'll just be a bunch of runts and IDs for the rest of the event
>>103246841>full justice>no advent
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2534053419
>Summary from Arielle's stream:
>Ari stopped being Zen's friend because Zen didn't like who she was hanging out with on stream. This has been happening for a while and Ari tried to get them to fix that behavior to no avail.
>So it got to the point where Ari had to end their friendship because it was affecting her mentally. This happened weeks ago and was blindsided by Zen's random post about them.
>Ari didn't want it to be public, but is now forced to address it.
>Hints that there is much more and feel like it should be said, but doesn't want to hurt Zen and hopes she actually gets help and improves.
>Ari having become more closely associated with Mouse than before and even declaring they're best friends seems to imply Mouse is the one
Most ex-VShojo fans seem to have decided that Zentreya is in the wrong here and has abandonment issues. A lot of claims about Zentreya being a drunkard, overly clingy, and being mentally unstable are being made.
>>103246940Her private has yellow heart which is Ame. I don't really get it myself so
>>103246967Who fucking cares about this gossiping woman shit
>>103246804post more femfans
>>103246967Zentreya is a male
>>103247014The indogs really want their nendos
For those who missed when it was first posted, this is the return of the space cowboy
>inter-planetary good vibe zonewith the much beloved fan favourite
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCHchart (while the anon of the tallies doesn't finish his stuff so I can tag along, looking at you, dwarf
>>103155778 (You))
The usual comments
>1) Hololive (the Japanese branch)Stuck on high gear, impossible to catch, impossible to comment. Their new normal FLOOR is at the highest levels they got in 2021-2023.
>2) HoloENUnfortunate events pushed them to their highest point since the 2020 algo change and now they're returning to a very high "normal" ahead of the
8k line
>3) Hololive DEV_ISThey're have their ups and downs and more or less found their comfort zone around the 5k line
>4) Nijisanji (the Japanese branch)With Koshien over they likely found their highest point of the year, the second in a row they fail to beat the 5k line despite some of their mid of ranks livers to have some unexpected robotic help
>5) VSPOAfter a middle of the year explosive ascent and an all time high they're on their way back below the 4k line.
>6) HoloIDAlso having a good mid of the year and currently pushing back in the direction of the 3k line
>7) NijiENAn absolutely explosive ascent starting in March, powered by the finest Portuguese engines with a performance fit for a king.
All of that failed to push them ahead of the 3k line and now they're quickly moving in the direction of the 1.5k line
and the punchline
>8) StarsENEven the strongest engine in the world can't push a plane up if there is only one of them, despite briefly crossing the 1k line they're right back at a downward trajectory in the 3 views direction
(no zako chart this time, need some time to rework the dataset of the small corpos)
>>103246967Zen had always been mentally unstable but it's very likely Ironmouse ran off with a lot of the money and support Vshojo was supposed to spread equally to everyone I can see how the former members would be resentful of her.
>>103246967no seriously who the fuck is arielle???
>>103247040is it okay to say that i word now?
few months ago it was bannable offense
>>103246967Who is the friend he isn't fine with this bitch being around? My guess is that there is some beef between Zen and some vshojo members and that will probably culminate into him being the second scapegoat after gunrun
>>103247048And here is a one off, more to come in the weekend
>NINETY (90) DAYS MEDIAN AND TRUE AVERAGE, KRONII (POST CCVID)She fell from a VERY HIGH perch with her average going as high as 8.6k in the end of July 2023 then
>FOR WHATEVER REASON OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS POSTher average took a MASSIVE tumble in the last quarter of 2022, bounced back slightly at the start of 2023 then trended down down down up until September 2024 and only recently started recovering in an impressive ascent up until her average broke her POST CCVID high in May this year.
>>103246994ok, yeah she's posting gurame lewds on there
>>103247048Thank you chart anon
>>1032470511.5k average twitch ligger with a blonde bimbo/gyaru model
Wait what? Big cat means big noombers?
>>103247078That explains a lot
>>103247066Wouldn't be surprised
It's gaslight central over there
>>103247066It's hard to call the CEO and founder of a company that was knowingly pursuing illegal actions with his full knowledge and direction a "scapegoat".
>>103247048Can you add the avengers to this chart?
my pc crashed when trying that kusoge knight game saba played wtf
>>103247048>HoloEN is as popular as they've ever been ignoring debut and graduation tour periods>Fags in this thread will still claim they're dead
https://x.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1953729903503061241
Hajime is better dancer than Bae, I don't make the rules
>>103247106He is very obviously not the only one to blame even if he himself is guilty
Someone post that femPebble Prime from Japan
>>103247137Uh oh. Nimimelty.
>>103247048Good work anon and welcome back again
Here have some Chiha
>>103247048Nta but if you do
>>103247107 only add official saba confirmed members (as of right now only dooby, which doesn't stream on youtube) I think there's no point in adding them now due to that
>>103247107It would make for too small of a "gen" or "branch" and end up completely dominated by whoever of the girls put the most hours.
>>103247143Kiara is easily the best dancer
>>103247089she has the biggest tweet for now, sure is something
titties buff
>>103247160Whatever happened to Flowglow? I didn't hear much about them after like a month and people stopped doomposting about the gray one or whining that they hired ex idols
>>103247106Nobody rules alone
>>103247048What's the fucking point of this when it's all botted from top to bottom. You can't even say HoloJP is clean when you have people like Watame getting hit near daily
>>103247176Hajime>Bae>Laplus>some others>Kiara>everyone else
>>103247179She's unironically probably the fittest in Justice which means probably the best dancer?
>>103247072Kronii .... whatever happened in Feb this year to justify her ascent?
She's mostly untouched by the engine, no?
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>>103247184Everyone except Riona will get 500k faster than Cecilia. Also Su will be the top of her gen soon.
>>103247106ironmouse was the face of the company, a close friend to management, talked to them regularly and even had the ceo in her home
You literally cannot spend every day for 4 years saying how close you are to the ceo and how everything is transparent and then pretend that "actually i didnt know shit" the second things go wrong
>>103247144>>103247191Look up the definition of scapegoat. Someone who is guilty and especially the most guilty person in a given scenario cannot be a scapegoat.
>>103247208>She's mostly untouched by the engine, no?No? What the fuck are you talking about. She was one of the first to get hit, and got raided with bots frequently. But also she streams so little that it's skewed
>>103247192That's too philosophical of a question, life is mostly pointless except for the meaning you give to it.
Think about it, this chart memorialises the events in each period of its tracking, if there is any anomaly now it will show up just like when CCVID hit.
I don't any particular member of a branch alone can affect the trend for the most part either, like demonstrated in the past with the "unsharked", "unbraided" and "unkobo'd" versions of the chart. The trend for HoloJP seems to be the same as usual
>>103247124she's an adult, right?
>>103247237Come up with a better word then, doesn't change the fact that he is not the only one even if those whores want it to look that way.
>>103247192Which other holoJP besides Watame gets hit near daily?
Just finished watching Biboo's MW2 stream. Her aim is getting good, she's actually getting some headshots in now. If she keeps this up she might become good enough to try out Ranked in like Apex or something
>>103247234the founding members all pretending they were kept in the dark is just some bullshit all their fans are eating up
>>103246893fuck you for posting this I gotta work in the morning but now I'm locked into this shit, (sidenote it's fun to see holo skins from time to time)
>>103247312since when do you have to be good to play ranked, I've seen people with worse aim then a blind person on that game
>>103247325hahahaha enjoy
Why are holos not playing Battlefield 6
>>103247048March was the start of the engine since you can see NijiEN inclined hard.
HoloEN masked it with Graduations but March was also the start of it.
So overall NijiEN is useless since almost all are botted while for HoloEN maybe make a seperate graph without Biboo and Mori since they are the most botted for holoEN like the no Gura EN graph before.
I can still see HoloEN in the 6-7k range even without the bots this month since events like justice3D etc.
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>>103247274nta
but
fall guy?
>>103247365they are not really fps gamers, maybe in some time if they put up a group and play it together
But solo? I find it hard to believe
Iโm surprised it performs a lot worse than Justiceโs song.
>>103247376holy... a white femruffian?!
>>103247318That's not just it, it was not just the founding members
>although Projekt Melody being married to the COO should ring major bells>and Projekt Melody being married to the COO WHICH LEFT THE COMPANY IN MAY (IIRC) should ring even more massive bellsbut think about it: kson was not being paid since September 2024 and yet claimed absolute surprise in July 2025
>>103247392this whole vshojo thing is just so fake
>>103247385https://x.com/peachduckay/status/1953310790355952024
there a couple of femruffians in the vancouver con
>>103247392kson was supposedly not getting paid but was still taking on sponsorships and shilling it?
That is the one thing that doesn't make sense to me, I wouldn't believe if you told me kson was working for free without making a fuss the millisecond the checks don't clear or don't arrive
The VShojo girls 100% KNEW what was going on, they decided to stay silence to try to let GunRun fix things but he failed
Now he's taking the fall alone but the girls knew
>>103247378crazy that holoen only ever have ame as an fps gamer after 5 gens
>>103247392So where is the money? It is very, very interesting that no one of the talents is asking that question, if it was me I would press gunrun every day for answers.
>>103247460it went into parties and useless ads
>>103247460>So where is the money?Nah, that part is well explained in the leaked investor slides. He got a 11M influx of money back in 2022 and was losing 3 to 4 million per year. It doesn't take a genius to realise that, after he ran out of runway, he had to either
>disclose the situation and lay the staff off and release the girls>find someone willing to invest more money, throwing good money after badInstead he just crashed the plane with no survivors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
>MALE GOLD TODAY
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>103247479cute boy on the left
>>103247520Nah, Niji male 3D debut today, expect 150k people to show up out of nowhere
>>103247541>niji malethat's a woman..
>>103247448moomerโฆ
if only she doesnโt get motion sickโฆ
>>103247440they went hard on talent freedom
acknowledging the problems early on would be admitting they were wrong.
And nobody wants to be guilty to themselves
>>103247460At saba and nimi husband
>>103247365Yagoo said new EN gen will be fps streamer on twitch and they will collab with homos
>>103247448i know a cute 2view who good at fps and has experience organizing events before, maybe Cover could hire her. But yeah, it's extremely hard to be an fps chuuba without male collab, because solo queue is hell and other good female fps chuubas are very rare that you have no choice but to play with males to rank up
>>103247480What the fuck?
>>103246893They should play Minecraft Pokemon mod
>>103247637nigger cuckposting the fanbase before the fanbase even exist
>>103247480is that pebble?
>>103247662i'm fine with male collabs, just not a homo collab
>>103247662that's why Yagoo wants it
yet another vector to push holopro
>>103247704We know napling
>>103247733don't insult me like that
Isn't it funny that as soon as VShojo starts being mentioned anon IMMEDIATELY retreats to "FPS, Holopro, dubois"
It really makes me think
>>103247754holoantis are very sensitive, they can't handle the our based banter
>>103247662Hard pass. I donโt want EN Aki. Endless collabs with ecelebs and almost zero solo streams.
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1953747104805138492
>>103247440iirc her explanation was that in her contract there's a clause that says that if she complains then they won't pay her the money she's owed.
>>103247783>TALENT FREEDOM>cons: none>if you complain we wonโt pay you>kson fell for thisSheโs lying
>>103247779Isn't fps male oriented? Holostars should join
>>103247812caveman anon... check her profile...
>>103247779I don't think Aki homocollabed that often
she spent more time with celebs and nijis
what Cover wants is specifically a team player
>>103247783>in her contract there's a clause that says that if she complains then they won't pay her the money she's owed.She advertised "TALENT FREEDOM", "CONS: Nothing" from the millisecond she signed with them.
She also COUNTERSIGNALLED THE FUCK out of the three girls that left VShojo on contract issues, even mockingly defying the market to make her a better contract offer which she would accept
>for a MILLION dollarsEither she's a pathological liar and there was no such thing in her contract or she willingly fucked a lot of people over because if her contract was that black why the fuck was she pushing so hard about how good it was?
>>103247783Evidently she didn't get paid anyway
>>103247831why don't they?
>>103247863they are garbage at it
>>103247727you can't push holopro when most homos are dogshit at fps and Astel hate EN homo
>>103247781Wheres indonesia live viewing? They literally have a branch there
>>103247878Is there a thing they AREN'T garbage at?
>>103247863Theyโre faggots. A little bit of toxicity would make them crash out. It would be an embarrassment
>>103247846It could be that her first contract was actually good (in the leaks Vshojo basically admitted that their initial contracts were too good and unsustainable) and her subsequent contracts were terrible and she already had a sunk cost fallacy going.
As for the last part, that's something a shit ton of people are criticizing her, she let a bunch of girls get trapped by a black company while happily promoting them.
>>103247883>>103247878when has that ever stopped Cover
No price is too great for Dubai
>>103247899>>103247863>>103247831they're more woman than the women in holol
The main job of homos is to sexpest any upcoming female vtubers that are getting tractions i.e. Phaseconnect and the single mother one
>>103247970Fuck off, we don't need them to do that
>>103247911>and her subsequent contracts were terrible and she already had a sunk cost fallacy going.That surely doesnโt look like kson, a girl that complained about anything and everything during her Hololive tenure
>>103247987She was allowed to complain in hololive
>>103247898still lose against Mint
>>103247970that's retarded. The ones to catch flak will be the girls when not if something goes wrong.
>>103247987>Cover is scared of upsetting the girls, will bend over backwards if challenged>Vshojo threatens to bury you in lawsuits if you even hint at anything going wrong
>homemade kfc
kino stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE
would you take a minecraft/roblox youtuber for EN5
>>103248147probably yes, but not a minecraft/roblox tryharder
just a casual just enjoyers
>>103248147Sure, why not? EN need their own Pekora too
>>103247192it's better to have visualized data than not to have it
>>103248016>>103248062Or maybe she just liked VShojo's environment better so she didn't see a need to complain about minor matters.
>>103248205Yeah that worked out so well
>>103248205vshojo's environment sure sounds very good!
>>103248205She didn't complain when she wasn't paid for 10 months
>>103248205Yeah I too see my employer not paying me for more than 6 months as a minor issue
how do you not notice MONTHS of missing paychecks? was she getting paid in literal pennies?
>>103248147Yes. Iroha tried the MC shorts meta and got pretty good numbers from it, she knows her market
is this real?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5ORI_6CqCVE
>>103248314LOL, wtf you're right. This is too cute
https://youtube.com/shorts/H865XlidT-c
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD6f_6w2q7g
https://poal.me/hdswfo
https://poal.me/hdswfo
>>103248375retard you missed one gap
delete, redo and repent
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>>103248432nice reddit meme
What's the gold for today anontachi
>>103248419so if the oversea market is 30% I can easily see the US being like 20%?
not bad
>>103248375you missed the most possible gap retard
>>103248307I feel like at this point all the talents want to bury everything
We haven't heard any lawsuit or court date 2 weeks in
No ex employee coming out with receipt even though they got pay cut for months
Their merch manufacturers are pretty silent
Its way too clean for a shoddy operation
>>103248205>minor matters.Mate, if I wasn't getting paid even for a millisecond while the company owner was creating a backpack that got instantly obsoleted by Starlink I wouldn't call that a "minor matter", that would be THE SEVENTH FUCKIN TRUMPET and I would be looking for a new job right then and there
>>103248494>I feel like at this point all the talents want to bury everythingIt's funny that even the girls disclosing "we didn't get paid" and GunRun going "lol, money was disappeared, including the charity one" those girls are not raising any fuss
It stinks to high heaven
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>>103248528how do you do fellow hololive stans!
>>103248250>>103248262>>103248501It is if they're only not paying you merch money because they take a whopping ZERO percent from everything else, they're not like nip agencies that start at 50% across the board and go higher on top of not letting you own your IP and controlling what you can stream
>>103248494They are starting to turn on each other so i guess something is still smoldering
>>103248565japenis preazu understando
>>103248557A better translation would be "fanboying / fangirling" but stan works
>>103248419>0 investment in the western scene>continually fucks over their talents>completely fucked up mythmania possibilities>wasted an entire year in 2022>forces talents to waste 1-2 months every year just because they don't want to make a studio outside of japan>STILL 30% of incomeAs if we needed more proof that proper investment in holoen would've paid itself back 10 fold but "mi mi mi studio otuside of japan would be too expensive!"
>>103248557>Showa era memtionIs this for boomers?
>>103248574You vill not be paid by vshojo and you vill be happy
future of hololive is grim
>>103248604>forces talents to waste 1-2 months every year just because they don't want to make a studio outside of japanthis wouldn't change much desu, the position of the studio wouldn't change the lack of stream during recording season
>>103248374Godalu...
Godalu...
Godalu...
>more responsibility and more accountability to investors.
>>103248646holoASS and homos might DIE for real this time
>>103248630At least VShojo didn't fumble the biggest EN vtuber on YouTube and a billion yen company's foray into the western scene by refusing to invest in an american studio and doing nothing but fucking them over, or sell out to investors by going public
>>103248574>It is if they're only not paying you merch moneyAnon, it is not that they are not paying you merch money because they said they wouldn't pay you merch money.
It is that they were not paying merch money THEY OWED the talent while, at the same time, not even putting their fucking birthday merch in production
>after receiving money from the fans for the pre ordersIt was not a minor issue and it has nothing to do with other companies, local or Japanese
It was outright fraud and, if I might, it was also another instance of
>REAL "TALENT FREEDOM" HAS NEVER BEEN TRIEDwhich is just a variation of the original "real communism has never been tried"; with the idea of putting the means of production in the hands of the workers and valuing the rest of the chain (management, supervision, financing) at zero will always fail.
The only way to incentivise a big group of people to move in unison is to make sure everybody is getting paid. VShojo failed even that low hurdle
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don't really like the sound of that whatever that may mean
>>103248586That's definitely a criticism that could easily be levied to Niji with their cookie cutter merch but Hololive has a whole lot more variety and some products so in demand
>like Mio's jacketthey ended up coerced into reissuing it with very little chance of making a big profit just because fans wanted it
>>103248660Yeah beacuse vshojo fumbled every single talent they had signed on, even those who didn't even debut yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pNlYZGq7o
>>103248669That's corpo speak for "with the number of layers between top management and "factory line" workers increasing we will try not to become a black company"
>>103248669they are just saying that since they are an established big corpo they are required to not fuck up socially, in order to gain and maintain other's trust
>>103248633it would help not having to spend 28hours in a plane in and out, and also by not having to cram all recordings of a year in 1-2 trips to japan, thus tiring talents out faster and also adding a barrier of "entry" to any project that you might want to do
Want to record a 3d live concert? Better prepare to make an extra trip to japan. Don't want to go there just to record a silly project? You now have to wait to accumulate other things to do there in a burst thus delaying timelines that are often quite strict (liek birthdays and so on having a timelimit)
It's just shit, and there's no reason for it. It's probably pointless now, with more talents that live in jp and a slight slowdown in growth there as well as more talents = each talent is individually worth less than it was before, but there REALLY wasn't any reason to not invest before, especially considering that the reason some talents left were probably strongly related to that too
>>103248660Vshojo fumbled their entire corpo and killed western vtubing
>>103248633You should not expect retards to understand geography
full article here
https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/694
>>103248669>more perms requirements>more sponsorship shilling>more corpo bootlickingAnd people think this business model is better for the talents than VShojo's? DYRBI?
>>103248713>but there REALLY wasn't any reason to not invest before, especially considering that the reason some talents left were probably strongly related to that tooWhen you say "before" you mean when there were only the 5 myth girls, or late 2021 when there were 11 of them?
>>103246967Zentraya might actually be a woman because that's some of the most high school girl shit I've ever heard
>>103248733holokeks are doomed!
>>103248660>itโs just another holoseetheMask off. Is this another phasefag?
>>103248733kek you're so retarded and mad you fag
>>103248733>And people think this business model is better for the talents than VShojo's? DYRBI?Well, from what I can see, there talent at Hololive are not just getting paid, but handsomely too.
>>103248658holoass ripped ass all over cover's return on investments..
>>103248733>Not paying the talents at all is better for the talents than paying them wellSure thing anon
>>103248733>peopleHistory has deemed vshojo model to be a failure. You can seethe at reality but it's not gonna change you lost.
>>103248776But at least they have talent freedom(limited)
>>103248737For the studio stuff, they should've started working on it early 2021
I am not saying they should've been prescient enough to know even before myth debuted that it'd be worth it, but as they are hiring council and they see the success of myth they should've started building stuff out becasue they knew more girls would join in and they'd be from that zone of the world as well
There were all the reasons narratively to do that too, from the chink spergout, to the relatively smaller success of jp5
Again they didn't need to build a billion dollar studio for en, just something that 2-3 years later would allow them to not have to go to japan if they want to record some smaller project for instance
>>103248733>making money is... Le badLol
Lmao
>>103248743>Mask off. Is this another phasefag?I wouldn't put past it being that fag from yesterday (
>>103236810)
>rip hololive.>with sana leaving on the 31st and two ex-hololive money machines jumping ship to join vshojo, theyโre really getting their ass kicked this month, and vshojoโs getting nothing but W.and then
>#holoTEMPUS is going to work extra hard if they want to keep hololive relevant, but knowing holostarโs luck. i HIGHLY doubt itโฆWhen people dug he was
>filipino>phasefag>vshojo shill>niji shill>dramafag defender>troon sympathizer (or one himself)>holo antiPretty much the whole bingo card
>>103248755They also have to waste time flying to Japan annually to stay in a retardedly backwards foreign country stuck in the 90s without any of the amenities Americans are accustomed to, and spend hours non-stop recording for the latest shill concert instead of being able to just kick back and stream at home like all streamers should be able to do.
>>103248713>>103248791Nigga the EN girls are from all over the fucking world and even some of the NA girls would have to make a stay to whenever your hypothetical studio would be
Do you understand geography
>>103248733the business model of vshojo caused vshojo to be shut down and potentially led to criminal action
the business model of hololive is creating millions in revenue
>>103248669I think they're trying to say "yes we know we're based around what's probably a fad medium but we wanna find ways to diversify and persist, so you can trust us to not completely tank your portfolios if a downturn comes"
AAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE
HE KNEW
>>103248797Idol company negro, seethe about it.
>>103248791even phase connect go to japan for 3d
kek!
>>103248796I posted the link on the thread and wanted to say that I found this guy on Reddit when he was shitting on Hololive and someone posted his Twitter kek
>>103248733>The holos make millions of dollars>this is somehow bad for the talentsLmao. Are you a commie?
>>103248799That's why cover should have either built two studios, one on each coast, or only hired texans, dumbfuck. Them being retarded is no excuse.
>>103248797Kiara Austria
Ina canada
Mori living in japan
Wow 2 whole talents in america
>>103248818>2023Holy Holo intern kek
>>103248831>built two studios, one on each coast, or only hired texanskek what a stupid silly nigger
def a phasetranny
Kronii has been showing her tits a lot more than usual
>>103248791>Again they didn't need to build a billion dollar studio for en, just something that 2-3 years later would allow them to not have to go to japan if they want to record some smaller project for instanceI'll indulge in good faith, this has track been beaten many times but it's better than the usual time loops.
Assume cost is not an issue (yet), where in North America would you put the studio so it would benefit both Myth (with one girl living in Japan, one in Japan then Austria and 3 in two different coasts), IRyS (living in Japan) and Council (one in Australia, four in North America likely in different coasts).
The conversation about the cost and quality will come down the line but, the low hanging fruit: where would you build it?
>>103248835 (me)
Forgor kiara lived in japan back then too
>>103248733"the company being alive" is good for the talents if it can "pay assloads of money to talents" for participating in their activites
vshojo wouldn't know how either of those things worked so no, they weren't good for the talents. they can promise everything they want but if you just give away your shirt and never get it back, that's no way to run a company. it sounds like literally millions of dollars were owed to their girls which probably won't ever materialize. like, dude. that's like vantablack.
>>103248853California so the same shitposters would whine about Cover getting califonicated instead
>>103248859Fucking charity theft coupled with wage theft, that's not even "black company" behaviour, that's "Enron-tier federal indictment" level of malice
>>103248797>have to fly to japan every year>makes millionsThousand times better compared to being in the indie scene. Too much trash that will fuck you over for a little bit of clout
>>103247448Biboo has potential tbf
> Watch a streamer do a Zelda speedrun.
> Stop watching because Fwmc's stream is starting.
> Go back to the speedrun, the streamer breaks the world record
What a day
>30k shilling food
Punichi
Phase cock travel to japan for 3d recordings 4-8 phase cock have 3D not all
why not in CANADA or U.S?
sorry for my bad english
>>103248896>>103248896you forgot
>sell your soul and listen to the company on what you can or cannot stream
>>103248831ICover should actively involved in splitting them to two faction:
1.Idol: move to Japan
2.Streamer:remain in CoO
>>103248885That would almost be the worst case scenario considering how many of them live north and east (let alone the cost)
If I were to suggest a location in good faith (as I don't believe they should build one in North America at all) I would say
>VancouverGood tax structure, close enough to a significant amount of the girls, not as expensive as the usual US alternatives
from 2023, inclined noticeably from then
>>103248823>>103248909>t. retard comparing a small coffee company to a multi-million dollar megacorp Different resources, retard
>>103247727>Yagoo is pushing for more fps content as part of his new plan to reach the twitch audience>all part of the new vector to push more HoloPro>Bijou suddenly focusing on more fps gamesOh no...
>>103248941why even join phase then? If all they have to offer is coffee? They even take 50% just like cover
It will always be funny to me that an ad read for Miko is a very popular stream for anyone else.
>>103248941>Different resources, retardwhy sakana travel to japan instead rent studio in canada or u.s?
>>103248936Yeah, bots help.
>>103248941Ah, I thought you were the number one in the EN sphere, but that was another lie
>>103248936Baldur's gate III arc was all the way back in 2023? damn it feels like just a few months ago
>muh US studio
>myth 2 US, 1 canadian, 2 in japan
>councilRyS 2 aussies, 2 US, 1 canadian, 1 in japan
>all of it during the pandemic
I maintain, this makes no fucking sense
>K9Kuro confirms that VShojo only paid him LAST MONTH for Merch from his Debut.
>His Debut was 2 Years ago.
then
>"u guys remember when i debuted in 2023, i sold a bunch of merch, like the shirt, acrylic stand.. my debut merch in 2023."
>"I got paid for that IN JUNE 11TH. THIS YEAR. i got paid for that merch two years ago, LAST MONTH. that is a fact. maiko helped."
This does not make any sense, if ALL of them were getting swindled, how come they are all feigning surprise at the turn of events?
>>103249061What the fuck is that model? Ugly as fuck. Typical for ironic weebs I guess
Why are we pretending that with the amount of money Cover wasted on homos and holoearth they couldn't have built multiple small 3D studios in multiple countries?
>shilling stream of some sort of onions
>30k
Goddess of vtubing
>>103249061he look tin diet ?
>>103248633b-but not if they bought out 20 different studios around the world, r-right? that would mean all of them could walk to the studio from home, r-right?
>>103249091(me)
Fck my autocorrect. I'm so sorry I'm out
>>103249061yea something smells really bad about all of this
So this is the roster for First Army, 2nd Army, and whatever the fuck is 3rd Army eh
>>103249038People are retarded. They really think EN means US when it never has. They also think the US is a single small town that everyone lives in. Holomems in HoloJP have often left their homes and families behind (hence its such a big deal whenever they have to travel out to the country or their family travels to visit them) but at least in the case of Japan it's one obvious city to live in and they have good public transport. In the US the big cities are nowhere even close to each other and there's no efficient way to travel between them, and you're fucked if you live anywhere normal.
>>103249084even vshojo 11M+ cant build a single 3D studio
>>103249061seems like Vshojo makes money by holding and reinvesting their talent merch money. That is the only logical way that makes sense. Maybe they put it on Bitcoin, deposit, or bonds
>>103248713You are not asking for a single studio, that's everything you claim to hate and wouldn't be solved no matter where you put it unless it was in an apartment building they all lived in. You are saying Cover should have built a studio in each one of their homes and a teleportation device so each of them could have whatever guests they wanted in their home.
>>103249115they act like the fans would be the one using the studio LOL (most EN fans are from the US, not the talents)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE
>a shilling stream on podium
Mikoti..
>>103249121Maybe they learn from nijien director/staffs and spend it all on cryptocoin lol.
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>>103249114the devilish diva...
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Speaking of US based 3D studios, did you know Nimi and Dooby's 3D concert was supported by Brave Group?
>>103249115>pretending the US doesn't have a world class train system in most cities >pretending having to fly 15 timezones is worse than just hopping over 2 timezones at worstDisingenuous
TOP KEK, in hindsight Hololive was SERIOUSLY living rent free in this dudeโs head. All the way back
>>103246893Having watched (most) of this (it's been fun), there's really not enough people even if it was a full hololive event, even if it was mandatory attendance.
Ohhh sheesh later virgins I'm FRIENDS with Biboo now I get to sniff her pits all I want!
>>103248799>Nigga the EN girls are from all over the fucking worldmyth + council had 80% of members in america or canada
>different parts of americaBeyond the travel time being lower and having different transportation options than just plane, it's still easier and less stresful to live or visit the same country you live in then fucking get a visa to japan and speak a different language and deal with everything being different there
>>103249175>supported by Brave GroupNo, they just got paid to use their gear. Oshi Live is specifically a mocap studio.
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>>103249175I love independent* vtubers
>>103249197>80%>>103249038retard, massive retard
>>103249183Very pagpagpilled. Flips are a mistake and shouldnt have an internet access.
Even Miko shilling shoyu get 30k viewers
>>103249208>they were not supported by brave!>follows up by confirming they were support by brave
>>103249208what do you mean
>>103249175What about it? You're not even told what studios holomems have to outsource to because the main studio is swamped 24/7.
>>103249061I'm guessing that debut merch is a special case
Or maybe kuro is so dumb that he needs this maiko person to point that out
>>103249242You don't know what "supported by" means you fucking idiot. It was hired work. They were "supported by" oshispark.
>>103248853Yes it wouldnt benefit mori or kiara or sana but it'd benefit the entire rest of myth and council to have a closerby 3d studio
Again i really dont understand the argument of "nah its better to just have 1 studio for literally everyone in japan (a notoriously annoying country to stay long term in and visit and that has a different language and culture than either america or canada) instead of having an additional studio for the other 70% of myth and council"
You can argue about costs or whatever the fuck, but saying that "nah itd be worse" is beyond retarded
>>103249114is this with bots
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>>103249178I'm going to assume in good faith you are retarded and not a troll. The Americans in Hololive didn't like to leave where they live, including within the US. Public transport is about getting between the cities, in Japan you can get anywhere in the country efficiently with public transport if necessary. No flights needed to visit family. For it to be an advantage that the studio is just across the country rather than a different country, it requires that they be taking ten times as many flights because they are constantly flying to the studio and then back home. Otherwise they are going through all the same problems of traveling and living somewhere that is not there home for a while. The only difference is it's not even somewhere exotic but just some shithole they purposely opt not to live in despite being a citizen.
>>103249259>I'm guessing that debut merch is a special case>Or maybe kuro is so dumbAnon? I'll assume you woke from a coma, it was not just Kuro, lots of the vshojo chicks (including nazuna) disclosed not getting paid. It was not a "special case", it was VShojo's business model
>>103249175oh so its the mint shadow agent shit all over again
>>103249212lets see myth and council
not in japan or europe or australia:
>gura>ame>ina>bae>kronii>mumei>faunaIn japan, europe or australia
>sana>mori>kiaraSo yeah sorry about the slight miscount its actually 70% of talents not being in jp, its fine though, since western is only 30% of your income and 70% of those members would benefit from the additional studio, its totally not worth it
>>103249268What magical benefits would it give them? For anything that mattered like these 3D debuts for example, they'd still have to go to Japan. Unless you just want VR chat 3D where nobody is actually in the same room, that really seems to be preferable to you at which point why you pretend to care about vtubers is a mystery.
>>103249259they all said they >realized they werent getting paid just now, despite also saying they werent getting paid since last year
>using a studio that is known for working with vtubers suddenly means you're a shadow member of the corp that built the studio
Are you actually listening to yourselves
Was Mumei a shadow member of whatever outside mocap studio she used for her graduation
>>103249268>a notoriously annoying country to stay long term in and visit and that has a different language and culture than either america or canadaJust cause you hate Japan doesn't means the girls do too nigger.
>>103249312>BaeYou've never watched HoloEN at all. US and Canada are also not a single country and had heavily restricted borders.
>>103249242Yes, they used a service that they paid for, retard. What even is this angle? When did Brave become Hololive's archenemy now? Are you asshurt about literally anything and everything? Could you be more pathetic?
>>103249268>You can argue about costs or whatever the fuck, but saying that "nah itd be worse" is beyond retardedYou are building a strawman, people arent' saying "it would be worse", they are saying "the steep cost doesn't justify the benefit OR solve the underlying issue".
It is not just Mori, Kiara and Sana that wouldn't benefit, IRyS and Bae wouldn't either. From the initial 11 from Myth and Promise that's almost half which would have the exact same problem, except in the direction of the opposite cardinal point.
>>103249175Independent* vtubers
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>>103249312>not in japan or europe or australia:>baeFor fuck sake
Also
>& IRyS
>>103249312>not in japan or europe or australia:>baeactual spazztic faggot
also don't fucking act like there isn't more distance between los angeles and NYC than there is between the left coast and japan
or that canada isn't a different country that would have them still fly, leave their homes, and stay for an extended period of time in another country.
total bufoon
>>103249208kill yourself retard
>>103249330A lot of the quitters definitely hated Japan or at least felt it had nothing left to offer them after their first stay, but most of them had fun getting to do things they never could otherwise. Mumei and Ina for example see Japan as more of a hanging out with people thing and Mumei intends to keep going back.
>>1032493153d lives?
Any small skits that they might be interested in doing that'd be too difficult to justify flying to japan to do?
Their holofes contribution? (its just 1 solo song and then usually a group song with other en members)
Anything else that never ended up happening because it'd be impossible to do organizationally so the ideas just stayed as ideas and we never heard about them?
Reminder that if you use the roads, you're supported by the government of that country. By playing CoD, Biboo was supported by the US Department of Defense in fact.
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Do any of you actually look at the Oshi Live website or do you think that they literally had to go to Brave Group and beg to use their studio when it's literally a fucking service you have to pay for
The only boy I watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
>>103249284Except going to Japan means you need to adjust to an entirely different timezone, shithead.
>>103249330Maybe you should hear some of what Faunahad to say about her """wonderful""" experience in Japan
>>103249208>they just got paid to use their gear>>103249339>they used a service that they paid for,Anon?
Also: Brave modus operandi is to create a partnership then merge outright. That what was they did with Idol, Neo-Porte and, more recently, Isigye.
Being in close partnership with Brave Group so far has a big track record of being outright "merged into".
>>103249114Biboo is mid 3rd army at best
>>103249175fucking Brave of all things, really?? and saptrannies have the audacity to complain anything about hololive, kek
>>103249382Shut the fuck up.
>>103249381>Maybe you should hear some of what Faunahad to say about her """wonderful""" experience in JapanNo i'd rather listen to my oshi on that one chief.
>>103249293why is a kaniki there
>>103249337>>103249360t. non-American last SEAmurai that doesn't realize that US-Canada travel is one of the easiest and most convenient in the world
>>103249360>>103249337>>103249356my bad i don't watch homocollabers, i thought she was a leaf
Also its still easier to go from canada to america than to the fucking japan
Hot Sexy WOMAN on the telly!
https://youtu.be/I4FbpwMb78U
https://youtu.be/I4FbpwMb78U
https://youtu.be/I4FbpwMb78U
Is Brave Group some sort of hidden power within vtubing? They have their hands over almost everything now
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>>103249375lol
https://youtu.be/Rv4fk3yDi-Q
>>103249381>Except going to Japan means you need to adjust to an entirely different timezone, shithead.Yeah, unlike for Bae, IRyS, Kiara, Mori and Sana, going to North America would timewarp them straight into the same timezone they left.
One of the worst attempt of trolling I've ever seen
>>103249340What steep cost? Do you think building and hiring staff for a couple of small 3D studios in the US is going to cost more than the amount they have already thrown into the holoearth black hole with no returns to show for it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihjI7nC3kU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihjI7nC3kU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihjI7nC3kU
non-boy 3D Live
>>103249408wherever there is a loli, there is a kaniki
>>103249183What is with flips having hololive living rent free and it is not just 1 or 2, it practically everyone of them.
>>103244198 (OP)* YESTERDAYโS FINAL TALLY *
>79,136: Miko (Hololive)>49,124: Rena (Nijisanji)>40,239: Subaru (Hololive)>37,389: Marine (Hololive)>36,691: Korone (Hololive)>36,514: Watame (Hololive)>29,247: Subaru (Hololive)>26,039: Toya (Nijisanji)>26,038: Ririca (Indie)>25,797: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>25,747: Chiroru (Indie)>24,919: Flare (Hololive)>23,376: Moka (VSPO)>20,731: Pekora (Hololive)>17,091: Kanae (Indie)>16,986: Bijou (Hololive)>15,075: Kronii (Hololive)>14,987: Koyori (Hololive)>14,384: Koyori (Hololive)>13,835: Pekora (Hololive)>13,349: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,252: Jurard (Holostars)>12,792: AZKi (Hololive)>12,309: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)>11,817: Lauren (Nijisanji)>11,510: Kokage (VSPO)>11,284: Okayu (Hololive)>10,864: Botan (Hololive)>10,765: Vivi (Hololive)>10,732: Nimi (Indie)>10,362: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>10,054: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MALE
>>103249411>>103249412You're still taking a plane, to go in a foreign country, leaving your home to stay there to record for an extended period of time. less time to get there don't mean shit.
>>103249382This isn't a partnership. Oshi Live SPECIFICALLY SELLS MOCAP STUDIO USE. It is its entire thing. They lend it out to anyone who would fucking pay to use it.
>>103249312>70% of those members would benefit from the additional studioAt the upkeep cost of 700%.
End of the day EN is just not making them money to justify giving them their own studio in one of the most expensive countries in the world. Not to mention EOPs keep chanting they don't want idol shit and only like streamer whores. Sure there are a handful of EOP fans that think otherwise, but the exceptions are not the rule.
>>103249386kys brazilianschizo
>>103249375Dooby also offers to be a paid consultant for 3D shit and events lol, that must mean she gets a lot of requests!
>>103249114Miko is God Tier
>oh my god, a Sakuna stream
>it's a mengen
https://youtu.be/Ij_x7F8uqVk
>>103249370But you don't want them to have to participate in HoloFes at all. And all fans would mock them relentlessly as they currently do. There are members who participate in HoloFes without going to Japan, they are always obvious since the real members do in-person signings at the venue and share stories about each other. Why the fuck would they pay all the money for these imagined small things you can't even imagine what they are. They have home 3D. A studio is for big projects, with guests and shit. Having a studio in your backyard doesn't matter if all the guests are somewhere else. Then it's just a way to throw money in a burning dumpster because you thought doing things in your home studio wasn't wasteful enough.
>>103249442AUG 2025 GOLD
>1) 84,513: Miko (hololive) 7th anniversary totsu + announcements [19]>2) 93,817: Miko (hololive) 7th anniversary Miko Expert Championship [29]>3) 74,948: Miko (hololive) gifts from holomem [37]>4) 85,596: Miko (hololive) holo smash bros weakest tourney pairing [27]>5) 98,678: Miko (hololive) MikoSuba puzzle [30]>6) 143,949: Miko (hololive) holo smash bros weakest tourney [31]>7) 79,136: Miko (Hololive)> PER COMPANY7x: hololive
> PER STREAMER7x: Miko
>>103249415>hiddenThey're very overt about their acquisitions, it's not hidden at all
>>103249434>What steep cost?Here is an employment tip: GunRun is looking for someone with the same mindset as his, money is no problem and there is no big enough cost!
Check with him because his COO stepped down recently
>>103249312>>1032494602 shades of massive retards.
https://youtu.be/4XojVqihboU
>Naruto watchalong
>>103249340why the fuck are you counting irys in there?
Irys was not hired or meant to be a normal talent at the beginning, yes now she is but if we're talking about 2021 shit don't talk as if she was a normal talent then
She was pretty much just a fucking jp vocaloid that could say words in english and she was hired for that specific purpose, with THE HIGHEST PRIORITY out of everyone else in en in terms of studio access, of course she wouldn't benefit from the studio, she was hired because she WAS in japan in the first place
>>103249441It is the culture they want to destroy
What's with these mega grim Twapper numbers, I thought she'd be one of those getting some 80k
>>103249280Yes. Just ignore the EN numbers.
>>103249452In the same timezone give or take 3 hours at worst, not the same.
>>103249436I'm watching tower but have fun with this one anon
>>103249476AUG 2025 SILVER
>1) 55,990: Chiroru (indie) baseball>2) 57,434: Elizabeth (hololive) 3D SHOWCASE>3) 57,929: Laplus (hololive) ASMR offcollab w/ Nerissa + FUWAMOCO>4) 37,042: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari taisou>5) 64,501: Chiroru (indie) baseball>6) 53,414: Chiroru (indie) baseball>7) 49,124: Rena (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY3x: indie
3x: hololive
1x: nijisanji
> PER STREAMER3x: Chiroru
1x: Elizabeth, Laplus, Pekora, Rena
i got a big towa futa folder
>>103249460>End of the day EN is just not making them money to justify giving them their own studio iso 30% of income isn't enough for a small studio, while some indies can set up some dingy shit barely functional for 3d stuff but they can by themselves
Naruhodo! hololive is going bankrupt soon
>>103249491You don't think this is getting over 80k?
>>103249175When they get bought?
BOT WALL PIERCED AGAIN
HOLOLIVE WINS AGAIN VS THE PUTRID FUJO BOTS
>>103249381The timezone you live in says nothing about when you are awake as many of the girls showed themselves, such as living in your personal timezone but being awake at completely different times than you. Half the time people complained about not being awake, it was at times that most people in their country were awake. A lot of JP's sleep in the morning or afternoon.
>>103249514>i got a big towa futa folderum... Why?
>>103249481>why the fuck are you counting irys in there?>Irys was not hired or meant to be a normal talent at the beginning,Yes, she was hired as the vsinger of the English branch of Hololive. If ANYONE in the whole branch that would benefit from a branch studio so she could record a lot of 3D stuff with her branch mates, that would be IRyS
>>103249510AUG 2025 BRONZE
>1) 46,682: Bandage (nijisanji) 3D Reveal>2) 45,437: Chiroru (indie) baseball>3) 54,434: Gigi (hololive) 3D DEBUT>4) 32,727: Miko (hololive) Shironeko Project>5) 39,049: Marine (hololive) PekoMari taisou>6) 44,302: Kuzuha (nijisanji) LTK>7) 40,239: Subaru (Hololive)> PER COMPANY2x: nijisanji
1x: indie
4x: hololive
> PER STREAMER1x: Bandage, Chiroru, Gigi, Miko, Marine, Kuzuha, Subaru
>>103249382oh Brave bought isegye too?
>>103249497this changes absolutly nothing of what's i've said.
>>103249474>Having a studio in your backyard doesn't matter if all the guests are somewhere else. They collab with other en members most of the time
>But you don't want them to have to participate in HoloFes at all>There are members who participate in HoloFes without going to Japan,>There are members who participate in HoloFes without going to Japan,Retard, you don't even know what you're talking about
And to think that Coco left all that behind to join a black company
>>103249530Niji has a 3D, you didn't see the REAL bot wall yet
>>103249532>jetlag isn't a thingt. retard, again, a lot of the girls like fauna suffered greatly just because cover was too stingy to build a few studios in the US
>>103249399Braveshill seethe
>>103249548AUG 2025 holoID
>1) 5,063: Kaela (hololive GoroGoro Mountain)>2) 2,304: Reine (umamusume: pretty derby)>3) 2,876: Kaela (Esports World Cup 2025 GRAND FINAL PUBGM)>4) 2,993: Zeta (free talk)>5) 12,345: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)>6) 1,833: Ollie (HOLOEARTH)>7) 2,662: Iofi> PER STREAMER3x: Kaela
1x: Reine, Zeta, Ollie, Iofi
>>103249535i like realism
>>103249564literally no cons
>>103249555well shit this nigger is about to bring out el famoso magico "skinwalked" shit KEKAROOOOOOOOO
>>103249375The average IQ of the posters right now are ridiculously low.
>>103249567Or because she's Vegan
>>103249382>>103249549>oh Brave bought isegye too?Wait, no, I misspoke, it was Stellive
>>103249569AUG 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 84,513: Miko (hololive) 7th anniversary totsu + announcements>2) 57,434: Elizabeth (hololive) 3D SHOWCASE [S]>3) 57,929: Laplus (hololive) ASMR offcollab w/ Nerissa + FUWAMOCO [S]>4) 37,042: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari gymnastics [S]>5) 64,501: Chiroru (indie) baseball [S]>6) 44,302: Kuzuha (nijisanji) LTK [B]>7) 49,124: Rena (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY4x: hololive
1x: indie
2x: nijisanji
>>103249411I've crossed that border more times than everyone in this thread combined. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as a mouthbreathing cumguzzler but at the timeframe being highlighted with figures like Sana being around, the border between Canada and the US was not open. You had to do weeks of fucking quarantine away from all your shit just to enter your own home country again. In Australia they had to do that just moving around within Australia which Bae and Sana were affected by.
>>103249540Alright so i'll explain slowly so that you can understand it
They have no studio in en
They have a studio in jp
As such, if they want a vsinger it has to be someone in jp
The only people they can hire for the vsinger role is someone that is basically japanese due to that
Someone that wasn't even meant to stream at the start
You are comparing her starting situation with other hololive en members when that situation is completely different than theirs and saying "WELL IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR IRYS SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE OTHERS TO HAVE IT EITHER"
You are retarded
>>103249530don't get too cocky holokek rine is about to mog towa
>you should listen to fauna about japan
lol
lmao even
Of course all this talk of studio is ignoring the cost of staff and maintenance of the equipment, staff training, security, language barrier between hq and branch, etc.
Not to mention 3d live production in the us would have cost a lot more than in japan due to higher labor cost
what the fuck are these pathetic numbers, towa??? where are all your shitty eceleb friends huh?
>>103249593AUG 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,275: Ibrahim (nijisanji) patapon 1+2 replay [19]>2) 10,255: Masui (indie) honkai star rail [29]>3) 10,088: Botan (hololive) DRDR #02 [37]>4) 10,473: Towano Kanae (indie) [27]>5) 10,182: Kronii (hololive) Blue Prince [30]>6) 10,233: Rena (nijisanji) Grounded [31]>7) 10,054: Fuwa (Nijisanji) > PER COMPANY3x: nijisanji
2x: indie
2x: hololive
> PER STREAMER1x: Ibrahim, Masui, Botan, Towano Kanae, Kronii, Rena, Fuwa
>>103249575In my language, โconโ means "stupid" kek
>>103249567retard they all would have still left even if they did have a US studio
>>103249567Fauna couldn't go to New York because of jetlag ?
lol
is it just me or towa's miles better at singing now?
>its more convenient to travel from america or canada to a different place in canada than it is to travel all the way to japan
>NOOOOO IT ISN'T THE TALENTS ARE SKINWALKED ANYWAY WHO CARES ABOUT 70% OF THE ENTIRE BRANCH
Alright
>>103249564>cons: nothing
>>103249530>turns out Towa is streaming 3D>i accidentally click to open it>i cant close it now becauseDay ruined.
>>103249614its 60k now, and she still has around 20 minutes to make it to 100k
>>103249476On the 8th day god Miko rests
>>103249567Nobody wanted Fauna in Hololive, not you, not Fauna, not Holofans. If that's why you're making this argument, you're a fucking retard. Fauna hated leaving her home. Her house. Her routine. Not her country.
>>103249564>cons: none>avengers of vtubingI lost my respect for her at that moment
>>103249594studios don't pop up overnight genius, if they started building it in 2021 it'd be ready two years ago where there were no travel restrictions.
>>103249611Literally negligible cost compared to the amount of money they've spent on the homos and holoearth and are going to spend on Twitch esports to fail to compete with VSPO
>Gens who have members with at least one 3D live above 92kGen 0
Gen 1
Gen 2
Gamers
Gen 3
Gen 4
HoloX
Myth
Promise
Advent
Regloss
>Gens with no members with a 3D live above 92kGen 5
Lap's sadomaso ASMR with nerissa and fwmc has almost 700k views kek
Face it, EN VTubers make so little that the logistics of having a local studio arenโt worth the investment.
>>103245014Depends on what you mean on entertainment value. I commend her for sticking to the bit, but Gigi literally hammers it in, like explaining the joke. It works for some people, others just stare wondering what the fuck they just watched like a patchwork quilt disaster. With CC, I'd at least suspect at least some method to the madness, even if she is more apprehensive in going for the bit sometimes. And good music pieces with a fine show can work well. If she can get Rissa in as well for a good opera piece, its gonna be golden.
COME ON TOWERS
GET THAT GOLD
>>103249642fuck sake, listening to gigi and towa now, today couldnt get any gayer
>>103249567>FaunaThe mentally ill vegan?
Pegor
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Fun fact: Mint worked for two black companies
>>103249676how convenient you left out ID
>>103244198 (OP)100k by holos in 2025
1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)
45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/17-07)
46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)
47. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)
# of 100k streams last year: 58
Why does it feel like a goodbye live
>>103248494They are all in it, maybe 1 or 2 retards didn't know but they are way too calm about it.
>>103249679see
>>103248419Now remember there are less members in holoen than holojp and that theres a ton more opportunities to make money in jp then there are in en, from promos with brands like mcdonalds to concentrated merch stores
>>103249702>two black corpostwo that we know of so far!
>>103249555Other EN members who don't live near them, Jesus Christ. What is your mental malfunction. And please tell us all about your elaborate conspiracies of how certain members invisibly went to Japan with no issue, no evidence they were there or no interaction with anyone else and how that proves going to Japan was actually a huge inconvenience.
>>103249712>I'm the first postI'm not shitting on her, but being vegan could also be a reason why she doesn't like to travel so far
>>103249712nice try but my post didn't even specify nimi
>>103249705ID can just fly to JP, no?
Niggerfaggot gonna shit the thread for 6 hours non stop because he's seething that hololive as a jap thing is reaping the US market when you get loads of shitters that are worthless 3views like phasetards who only get crumbs left
Also very poorly veiled seething at Idol Stuff as usual
>>103249676>negligible cost compared to the amount of money they've spent on the homos and holoearthAnd how much is that exactly? In us dollars if you dont mind
>>103249752>just take an 8 hour flight everytime bro its no problem
Why is there no wizard ojisan in towa's live
>>103249676nta but do you know how freaking hard it is for someone that operates in a foreign country like Japan for example to find a suitable location, purchase/lease the land, process all the necessary paperwork, deal with the logistics and any additional construction/renovation works, hire the personnel needed to get that overseas base up and running? All that shit takes months, if not years. And there's no way in hell they can instantly get that all in motion once the travel restrictions were lifted. Again it takes time. A LOT of time.
>>103249731Maybe she has already secretly joined another corpo
>>103248669Yep, that's the kind of language I'd expect from blackrock
This feels like an unofficial graduation concert...
>>103244314$200? I'm sorry I blew all my money on a Switch 2 and also a $300 Holo plushie + tarrifs.
>>103249732>Other EN members who don't live near themJESUS FUCKING CHRIST ITS EASIER TO GO FROM AMERICA TO ANOTHER CITY IN AMERICA OR FROM CANADA TO AMERICA THAN TO FUCK OFF ALL THE WAY TO JAPAN
How are we still arguing this? Are you people mentally challenged? Do i need to make a drawing so that you understand? Whats next, we propose we move the fucking studio to antarctica since clearly the further away the studio is from everyone the easier it is to collab with other people?
En's mostly collab with other fucking ens
>>103249712>jetlagSo I ask you again, why didn't Gura, Fauna, and Mumei come to New York for the concert ?
>>103249676>Literally negligible costFaggot please lmfao
What are the odds that Panko will leech in chat?
>>103249717Itโs still 70% Japan, and the overseas market is not the same as the EN market. JP members are probably more popular in some Asian markets.
>>103249598Anon, you are using too many words to try to defend an indefensible position.
First, let's agree in one point: there is an obvious benefit in having a studio in North America that, if for no other reason, the six (6) girls that lived there could use it
>Fauna>Gura>Mumei>Ina>Kronii>AmeYou and I agree with that, this is not the point. My point is that, even if you exclude IRyS for your selfish reasons
>she doesn't need to 3D collab with the EN girls anyway, she's a glorified vocaloid or somethingcreating a studio in North America
>even if all six girls lived in the same metro area would not solve the problem for the other four girlsThat makes the argument that
>building a north american studio was essential to solve the issue of having to travel to use it for 3D contentis not correct, it wouldn't solve anything.
There are additional problems with this: a studio for six would definitely not have the same quality of the main studio, which would just push the complaint from
>EN girls have to travel to Japanto
>EN girls get saddled with the shitty studio while the japanese ones get the good one
>>103249677I mean I get it, Rissa having her smooth ass voice while showing the gap moe of being an awkward girl is cute. Lap's absolute monstrous hunger for onee-san femdom, and FuwaMoco just providing the color commentary and giving us a little sneak peek of some FuwaRissa was chef's kiss. Fuwawa is releasing that Helga Pataki energy lately with Holomem and I am here for it. If she ever starts doing like Chammers and brings out more of that lower register, I can see myself getting bricked up.
>>103249772oh not having to travel to work once a year, when they dont even have to commute on every single day like most people do. Must be horrible.
grim numbers, does miko have anything lined up for today?
>92k
What happens with that number were pushed to 100k, which gens get cut from gokischizo's list?
Also, if I knew I was talking to the gokischizo I would have saved my breath and just called him a retard
Twappi 70K! Do you think 100k is possible?
Whore can't hit 100k LMAO
Fucking whore
>>103249760They should stop funding useless branches and buy themselves a brain
>>103249760They've literally spent 20 million dollars on holoearth so far, that is enough to build more than 10 studios in the US, one for every holo there.
>>103249775Skill issue, Ame could literally do it in her spare time from her own fucking garage.
>>103249798Don't forget that they'll need to burn alot of money just to get that shitty studio up
>>103249798no one agrees with your first point fauna,gura,mumei,ame would all have left regardless of a NA studio existing
>Today is not only 3D live, but I also have a lot of announcements, so watch till the end
>repeated it again
>>103249702I wouldn't be suprise if she work for brave too.
>>103248733What is funny about this post is that there was a point where this could have been taken as bait 100% of the times
>>103249833He wants to insert Advent in his shitpost
>>103249829This but the EN girls and the japanese studio, I see you are on the side of the status quo
>>103249781oi don't fucking jinx it
I was sensing something odd about this Towa Live from the start ffs
>>103249791Why would they spend their own money to prop up Cover?
>>103249851if she makes dildo merch shell literally become a billionaire
>>103249851She is going to graduate, isn't she?
>>103249214>>103249441>>103249183in hindsight yes it's fucking unmistakable and people just wanted to give endless benefit of the doubt about it. even for pro-holo flips you get... jurard. millie aka the one who made the mock 4chan stream a few years ago? of course also a flip.
what did we learn today? nothing we didn't already know.
Why do bots reply to hr old posts?
>>103249847That's not my point at all and I agree that studio time is definitely not even close to the reason they left.
towa sounds like my drunk uncle when shes singing in english
>>103249851she said it with a huge sigh too lol
weird vibes
>>103249851She'll probably go to vshojo
>>103249834Maybe, here's last year member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XojVqihboU
This will probably do big numbers but it's a bad way to experience Naruto
>>103249783A shorter flight that's all you got nigger
Most would still have to leave their homes for a while, when it's like 90% of their complaints when it comes to travelling
>EN's mostly collab with other fucking ENsENs are all over the world and no, when it comes to 3D lives and shit a lot of them invite ID and JP girls and a lot of ENs join in on JP and ID's stuff
>>103249712You believe all the things she said were lies. That makes you the schizo.
>>103249772Are you an underage? You can't take wee baby flight.
>>103248733THAT'S RIGHT!! HOLOLIVE IS DEAD!!!! VSHOJO TO THE MOON!!!!
>>103249884where is the bulge
>>103249851ๅคงๅใชใ็ฅใใ
>>103249084Who is pretending that? That's one reason they are hated here
>>103249839>from her own fucking garageThere's your clue, idiot. Try asking Ame to do all that I mentioned, see if she can "could literally do it in her spare time". If Cover could just instantly "own" some random garage like Ame we would have dozens of studios and offices in the US by now, but NO, that's not how it works. Gotta do all the things I said in the previous reply, and all that, like I said, takes a LOT of fucking time.
>>103249851I think she might be leaving, which might explain the recent doomering from some holos
But first she'll announce a final live and new orisong
>>103245014CC won the New Years outfit Reveal ccv war, and she was in Pekora's recent video upload. The Doll has the potential to smoke Gigi in the 3D lives. Like ERB almost beat Gigi and she had nothing but Homos on that stage!
>>103249839>that is enough to build more than 10 studios in the USyou're actually retarded fucking kek