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>>103244198 (OP)
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

We so dead

guys please buy
kek

>WORLD TOUR
>JAPAN and SHANG HAI

KEK!!!

>>103244361
did the shang hai one even happen

wheres everyone tf

>>103244418
Yeah but it was two 3rd-string JPs and three NijiENs, so nobody cared.

Since we're like schizo-ing right now, CC's 3D reveal tweet has now surpassed Gigi's 3D reveal tweet

>>103244426
>botted threads

>>103244484
>What do you wanna see?
Her cunny

>>103244529
that was Hime you newfag

>>103244529
>hololive
>male
Did your brain stop working

:3

>>103244529
phase cuck new fag

KEK!!!!

>>103244529
Wrong thread lignigger

>>103244529
Proof?

everyone is playing battlefield 6 early access thats why the whole board is slow

ホロメン got translated to hololivers

>>103244647
The board enters a state of embarrassment whenever either a Holo yab is disproven or a ligger yab happens

The Shylily Google Dockey might be the beginning of a yab so might as well retreat before the Holokeks laugh

>>103244418
https://x.com/drsx_rojeu/status/1943951962514338270

>>103244529
>male
>hololive

amelia watson is my wife

>>103244786
there were more people at the flopmouse concert...

I can't remember what happened but I think Bae lost and didn't pay or something.

It has been many years.

>>103244647
You can start another loop of Nimi seething again if you want.

>>103244824
>many years
>2 years
anon do you have bad memory

>>103244786
Niji is functionally dead everywhere except Japan and even Japan is starting to reject such a boring and monotone product

>>103244856
Ahem

>>103244872
Glad to see you're proving my point, it's lower than 2024's peak

...also it's botted but let's not think about that

>>103244314
ERB pfp
Fucking tumor

>>103244856
>dead everywhere except Japan
You take that back! They're huge in the Shenzhen racks!

>>103244901
You cannot seethe about Hololive's strongest partner.

>>103244872
Didn't their sponsor drop them?

>>103244901
It's not bots. Riku just likes to watch baseball from 100,000 smart fridges simultaneously.

>>103244539
>TIL male hag
anyways, numbers?

You might hate nijisanji but they are on equal influential prowess as hololive, because as far as I know, Niji JP is on equal terms with Holo JP.

With that much influence the partnership that Hololive made with Nijisanji to combat defamation of talents (but if we are being real here this is probably JP focused) is extremely well done that I doubt anyone would even try defaming their JP talents.

>>103244947
Did she announce guest beforehand?

>>103244314
lmao

>>103244484
As much as I love CC, Gigi set a VERY high bar for her 3D. I'm not sure if CC can clear it. Like, my oshi is Biboo and her 3D was great, but even Biboo's 3D debut cannot match the pinnacle that was Gigi's.

>>103244939
niji is a sponsor scam

anything for u, king

>>103244731
Something smells fucky about this art... The tako sand sculpture is really off model

So are Justice in the EN concert since they'll have 3ds?

>>103245039
isn't it drawn by ina herself?

FAGcord and Plebbitors are posting again

>>103245047
Yes, watch streams and you'd know this.

>>103245014
Entertainment wise, maybe. But that's subjective. We are monkeys and we seek numbers, and there's a very high chance she'll be top CCV in Justice

Notice how the hologods still haven't beaten the indie debut peak of 300k+

>>103245014
CC has a trump card on her sleeve. If she has a CCGG moment on 3D, all the lesbian sisters will kneel simultaneously and she will win

>>103245181
Sakuna ch is dead

>>103244719
What game is that? Did I miss something?

Where's Ike?

Oh, there was additional tickets earlier, and they already got sold.

>>103245215
Is this how we cope with Indies holding a debut world record?

Where's Ao?

Doooby!~

>>103245249
nobody even mentioned that anymore outside #
also Saba debut made more splash despite lower ccv

>>103245014
>loud = funny
>random = funny
She didn't do that much better than ERB minus the bots.

EN5 will be kitanya, nyana banyana and 2 non vtuber girls.
They will be the first gen of DEVIS EN that will be more focused on idol activities similarly to DEVIS JP

>>103245249
Yeah you can have it no prob, poor Sakuna...

>>103245215
I would've thought Sakuna would be the most popular ex-holo given that gigantic debut, but Saba is somehow higher AND more active than her

>>103245215
Doesn't change the fact that Sakuna, an Ex-Holo, holds the world record for the greatest vtuber Debut ever funny that she also holds the greatest record ever in history as Aqua via her graduation

>>103245290
How tf can she stream and do more when she can't use the Gaou model and has to change into a new one (she's currently doing so). Gaou basically sabotaged her future as an indie

>>103245296
What, I don't even watch sakuna bro, she is probably botted as hell.

And the best debut was clearly Nimi, I mean look at this lil creature

>>103245091
That's nothing like her artstyle

>>103245224
he didn't go anywhere? he's still on the roster

>>103245312
use this

>>103245157
Based on what? I don't watch her enough to know her strengths except tgat she's fairly willing to put herself out there

Its quite unlikely but, in the event that Advent was actually granted a "Sololive", realistically how would this board react knowing there are lots of Mythfags and Promisefags here who are not-so-happy that Advent apparently gets some favoritism?

>>103245269
One of the very few ships that was genuine from the start.

>>103245224
He was supposed to join Vshojo, but you know...

>>103245296
This is why everyone ridicules CCV now. Both Coco and Aqua made CCV record, but it's irrelevant to their popularity now.

>>103245352
different times anon back then there was world wide pandemic.
Myth and promise would've had multiple sololives by now if not for that

>>103245224
Whats the new rrat? He Nimi’s husband or something, pls QDR I’m out of the loop

What's with the sudden Ike rrat

>>103245312
She wasn't streaming much before the Gaou incident, averaging about 1 stream per week, usually having mini hiatuses and short return bursts
She was most active last Dec, where she had 11 streams total

>>103245318
>Nimi's 90+k versus Sakuna's 383k
bruh Nimi ain't even close. Sakuna is still the 3rd place overall just behind Coco and Aqua kek

>>103245269
BUT WHAT ABOUT NIMI!?!?

>>103245349
>Music chuuba are very much good tourist bait
>Good humour, will probably try to cater to all unlike GG which brute forced the comedy so hard (but yet still successful)
>Will probably be lighter on skits which notoriously kept JP tourists for checking in for Gigi's 3D
>Has been steadily building JP mindshare, got into a JP offcollab, JP meme tournament AND in PekoMari morning
>Higher chance for JP guests (Sora or Roboco)
>Saturday morning JST, Jap tourist time buffed by previous point

All of these will buff the fuck out of her 3D CCV

>>103245352
favoritsm is a meme used by nijinigs to start holo vs holo same as golden gen, actual fans would be happy for anything that EN gets because they're all apart of the same branch up against the titan of holoJP

>>103245425
shut the hell up you nimifags, get your stinking faggot whore nimi out of here.

And this isn't even about Nimi having a relationship status or her cucking her fans, it's her openly stating she is in a relationship basically making all her fans and herself too face the force equivalent to a social execution.

Every one of her fans would get called cucks or cuck supporters, regardless of how they feel about her.

INA OKAYU KURUKURU CRUISE 100K DORYAAAAAAA

>>103245352
We'll be upset about it for a week
Then we'll watch it and cheer for them
As always

>>103245455
Betting my balls CC’s 3D debut is lower than even Shiori

>>103245375
Ccv records>ccv average

I've been reading CCGG fanfiction on AO3 and I'm terrified by the lack of creativity and SOVL in the minds of Autofister sisters. Little to no expressions of love in any chapter, just teenager brooding and angst, like a shitty Netflix movie, there is no romance.

Even the sex's kinda shit.

>>103245511
Half of them are kids they’re probably still taking creative writing

>>103245511
Uh...link?

>>103244872
This is worse than previous years despite bringing Kuzuha back

Mythmania bros...

>>103245511
>I'm on AO3

>>103245211
I don’t think any EN has shown up in 3D in their genmates 3D showcase

>>103245542
Only Dusty Ruffians browse fanfic.net and I would rather watch Niji than go to Wattpad.

>>103245511
i rather have vanilla than vore or ntr on my fanfic

>>103245476
This is just a pointless grudgepost. She's 2nd in popularity to GG. Grems will check her out out of curiosity, JPs will check her out, etc. The question is whether she'll surpass ERB or not. Honestly Justice 3Ds are a bit grim in terms of CCTV but I hope there'll be an outlier among it all

>>103245511
>Reading fanfiction written by 18-20 year teens
I rather be shot first than do thus

>>103245352
I already got 2 sololives, a Sololive guest appearance, multiple guest appearances at actual concerts including at Budoukan, virtual lives with KAF, and the World Tour I think I’ll survive

>>103245269
Still no Nimi mention btw

>>103245594
Hey here is a fun piece of trivia.

The last cripple Gold won by Nimi to this date was on July 20th, the day before the LLD.

>Phase talents already streaming Battlefield 6
>meanwhile Hololive still stuck with Expedition 33, etc

ffs hurry up with those perms, at least try to catch up to the latest gaming trends, Hololive!

>>103245594
I am convinced there is still somehow one cuck just feeding her bots, I guess he gets an erection just looking at numbers being happy that Nimi is getting high numbers

It is probably for attention, and he has no love for Nimi himself.

That's why illustrations are the superior delulu medium
Gigi: Let’s k-… kiss…?
Cece: Huh!?
Gigi: Let’s try?
Cece: …
Gigi: You don’t wanna?
Gigi: How about we try it? The two of us?
Cece: …
Gigi: Let’s try it?

sfx: BA-DUMP BA-DUMP

>>103245621
>preordering an EA game
disgusting

Can we stop talking about Nimi and Saba for one fucking thread. The world doesn't fucking revolve around them

>>103245663
That's the real deal, love! Cuteness!

Not just UUUUUUU I'M SO BROKEN AND TRAUMATIZED AND SAD AND I'LL ONLY RECOVER BY HAVING SEX BUT ALSO I HAVE A DICK SINCE THE AUTHOR IS 12 AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW LESBIAN SEX LOOKS UUUUU

>>103245692
This world is

>>103245663
where the fuck did you people come from

>>103245692
>the world doesn't fucking revolve around them
Correct, it only revolves around for Gura and Saba

>>103245692
cope cuck

Saba won.

>>103245686
if Hololive shills us slop, we obliged to buy. no expections.

>>103245692
Yeah we should talk about Saba and Dooby and their squishy cunnies

>>103245692
Shut up Dooby

>>103245716
Oh sorry. We'll get back to our daily scheduled Nimi and Sabaseethe

Ashton cute...

>>103245814
ashton kutcher is an oji-san now

>>103245845
Where has he been actually?

>>103245574
She'll probably be lower than her in SCs if ERB and GG are anything to go by, but CCV is almost guaranteed to be higher since Shiori was hit hard by YouTube culling views.

>fwmc made a shill stream for their still-not-200k-views song
grim...

>>103245476
I'll wait for your balls tomorrow

>>103245815
>>103245828
>Made in Godot
>Game breaks
Wtf were they thinking?

>>103245783
>noooooooo don't make fun of me for funding Nimi's boyfriend's sex life for years
Crying here won't give you your money back

>>103245277
She was also overlapped by Saba

>>103245902
Anyone who watches Saba can't possibly have any interest in Gigislop so the overlap wasn't relevant

>>103245893
they made the game in godot??

>>103245918
and you are wrong

>>103245277
How can a prerecorded 3D debut be random?
Can you only repeat buzzwords incorrectly without forming your own opinions?
Your post reeks of joyless faggotry.

>>103245878
what was the proof of being culled, how come the 3d debut one day after hers wasnt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1A76PvsqD
actually sounds good

>>103245942
Nope.

>>103245968
she bleeded 2k, the overlap is there. I'm sorry to break your narrative but the audiences are pretty mixed

It looks like Zen is the first one that they are all going to turn on

>>103245981
>bleeded
ESL retard

>>103245981
>90% of her viewers would rather watch her play re4 than a 3d debut
the overlap is miniscule even if she wasn't live it would have barely made another 2k difference

>>103245922
Only for the Custom Mode. They still use Frosbite Engine for the campaign.

>>103245957
It happened to be right on the final day of YouTube messing with CCV in general.
It's fairly clear when looking at SCs compared to CCV, Shiori was not very far behind Nerissa, yet Nerissa was a whole 20k viewers higher (40k vs 60k)

jwu, kek-run-aroo?

>>103245962
what is this, is this a hacking link?

>>103246092
2k isn't irrelevant though (and that's just speculation, probably could've been more considering 2k kainikis already tabbed to gg while saba was still streaming). for instance, if saba had ~2k more people she would've reached 20k that stream. I don't get this whole narrative of claiming kanikis necessarily don't watch anything else if saba isn't on

What happened to Bijou's stream? I heard it fucking died several times?

>>103246184
She got hit with the Mori Curse

>>103245746
I haven't bought any Chillas Art game

>>103246184
American internet.

>>103246125
>using scs to determine ccv
so you have no proof and it just conveniently was the last day

>>103246125
>SCs compared to CCV

>>103246242
? wym

Things aren't looking good for our scalper friends.

>Fishman botting an ad stream
This is... pathetic

>>103246243
CCVID was very real though.
It sounds like a convenient coincidence but it really just so happened to be the last day it affected streams.

Nimi right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJJFIFzvvM
your gold for today

>>103246365
grim?

Make clips for your streams like Asmongold

>>103246427
>>103246365
Oh are you talking about Clio's 5k CCV?

I actually got raided into there after I was with Eimi.

>>103246423
are you sure? Usually niji women don't get many numbers (unless they are top dogs' accessories, see meloco and similar)

>>103246339
they have what two weeks left
kek

>>103246452
Beep boop

>>103246339
Are they still trying to pawn off their tickets?

>>103246339
fucking brats are such retards

>>103246339
https://x.com/KosmoKami/status/1953637667826008352
>noooooo don't sell more official tickets before I can sell my 6 scalped tickets
lmao

>>103246452
>5k
how about 8k? With like 10 active chatters

>>103246485
Mori center, huh?
Ewwghh

>>103246423
>friday debuff
>literal who 3D niji debut buff
>niji whore debuff
>king engine buff
I say 60k

>>103245621
Botan was gonna play it, but she wants to upgrade her PC before that. No other girls have interest on it so far.

>>103246485
>when I post lies on the internet and then repost lies on the internet

We need a new box game arc, this 7dtd shit is boring as hell

>>103246509
the game surely LOOKS demanding in hardware, is it heavy?

>>103246459
idk she's one of the debuts from 2018 it will be a bad look if the portuguese don't show up for support

Epic battle of Bots

>>103246509
She's planning to play it over the weekend, she already built a new PC, she just didn't use it for streaming yet.

>>103246502
This is a mori thread

https://www.youtube.com/live/0SvuriSKB9k
https://www.youtube.com/live/0SvuriSKB9k
https://www.youtube.com/live/0SvuriSKB9k

>>103246485
LAUGH AT THIS BRAT

>>103246550
lol

>>103246365
>>103246452
Yeah

future holoen concerts probably won't sell out anymore since scalpers are pulling out

>>103246184
MW2 keeps crashing. Probably some compatibility thing with win11.

>>103246563
Brats are so stupid thinking buying excess tickets would actually be smart.

They need to be corrected

>>103246556
Is Mori the only pillar left? Kiara is idol-like but bad singer. Mumei is gone, but she was never center material. Bae and Irys (both red too somehow) lack popularity. Advents too new and you can't put twins as center. This branch is fucked, isn't it?

>>103246589
"people" say things like this about every holoen concert, just to be proven wrong every year... doesn't it get boring?

>>103246339
>>103246563
are these scalper brats not going to get their asses kicked when they show up at AFO?

>>103246617
They're not.

>>103246571
>75GB
Fuck modern gaming

>>103246617
no? we are not animals

>>103246617
Yeah
By my dick

>brats
Nice organic 4am thread

>>103246606
Instead of a sole talent, you have Advent as a collective being pillars of EN. Not individually.

>>103246606
it's ok kaniki, you don't have to cry I'm sure saba will get a concert next year with ironmouse and wendy charleston

>>103246617
You mean this brat who started this whole fucking fiasco is not getting punched or kicked or get fucking mauled?

I am so disappointed, especially since he loves BAE SO SO MUCH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>103246617
they might get side-eyed by a couple people but no one is going to talk shit to them or anything like that

>>103246680
>>103246670
real talk no one will even go face-to-face insult them because they don't want to get ousted by the community or targeted.
People will call us "low-lives" for targeting the brats for some reason.

>>103246670
Jdon my scalp

>>103246617
Do it yourself

>>103246698
>for some reason

>>103246659
Whatever you say, Botventrix

>>103246522
>Star Citizen
>Supermarket Simulator
>Civi 5 MULTIPLAYER (maybe even a mini-tournament of sorts)
>Vintage Story (can make a server ala minecraft)

>>103246758
hot

>>103246670
Bro really thought it was a good idea to make this shitty plan while having revealed his face.

He got either balls or he is fucking dumb

>>103246758
Banchou SEX!

>>103246751
>Satisfactory
>V rising
>Sea of thieves(private server, next year)

gonna be a shit ton of empty seats but if this experience turns off scalpers for future concerts its good in the long run

I will be attacking all brats at AfO

>>103246483
>pawn

>>103246606
So fucked that their 12K tickets gone within minutes. Imagine if they weren't fucked, damn, they would've sold out a dome concert in seconds!

>>103246784
>>Sea of thieves
iirc this is limited to only 4 players per team/ship

>>103246698
No one is gonna get their shit kicked in, it's not like they're attacking anyone or the girls, they're just particularly scummy with the scalping, AfO is anyhow releasing more tickets so the fans have an opportunity to get one, these retards can hold onto their wasted tickets that they've already bought

>>103245744
I LOVE THE BIBIDIBUM~

>>103246698
>low-lives
I will never get tired of reading morons seethe in a language they don't understand

>>103246804
Well I'm glad to be an Otomo, where are the other femtomos?

>>103245511
Welcome to fanfiction. Majority if it is done by virgin teen girls.

>>103246804
Cute boy. I can almost see his cute features through all that blur

>>103246804
cute but has mental illness

>>103246810
Thats good though?
We want them to compete and ram each other

>>103246841
hmmm wouldn't matter if i can get to her cooch
she can be corrected with some dicking

>>103246850
that would mean multiple teams and ship-ohhh yeah yeah you're correct, I was thinking about them joining some servers but you mean a private server, yes that could work

>>103246841
>Loves every Myth member (past and present) except ame
I'm nooooticing

Any chance the Hololive girls can do this kind of big minecraft events?

https://youtu.be/ef568d0CrRY
https://youtu.be/ef568d0CrRY

>>103246771
the idea was retarded but the shit talking made it way worse

>>103246893
>1000 players
we don't even have 1% of that

>>103246617
Why don't you do it? You are attending AFO surely

>>103246816
It's always homofags and homocollaber fans that manage to waste their money
At least this time the money goes to all the girls I guess, but i really don't know how they managed to lose in total thousands of dollars on extra tickets that no one wants

>>103246423
Holo male gold today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U

>>103246913
I mean the kind of "Minecraft Civilization roleplay" events thing, kinda like ENReco but less weird fantasy shit and more on the whole minecraft civilization rp

>>103246841
not liking ame

>>103246893
all the popular girls will end up getting perma killed in the first days then it'll just be a bunch of runts and IDs for the rest of the event

>>103246841
>full justice
>no advent

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2534053419

>Summary from Arielle's stream:
>Ari stopped being Zen's friend because Zen didn't like who she was hanging out with on stream. This has been happening for a while and Ari tried to get them to fix that behavior to no avail.
>So it got to the point where Ari had to end their friendship because it was affecting her mentally. This happened weeks ago and was blindsided by Zen's random post about them.
>Ari didn't want it to be public, but is now forced to address it.
>Hints that there is much more and feel like it should be said, but doesn't want to hurt Zen and hopes she actually gets help and improves.
>Ari having become more closely associated with Mouse than before and even declaring they're best friends seems to imply Mouse is the one

Most ex-VShojo fans seem to have decided that Zentreya is in the wrong here and has abandonment issues. A lot of claims about Zentreya being a drunkard, overly clingy, and being mentally unstable are being made.

>>103246940
Her private has yellow heart which is Ame. I don't really get it myself so

>>103246967
Who fucking cares about this gossiping woman shit

>>103246804
post more femfans

y kaela botted?

>>103246967
Zentreya is a male

>>103247014
The indogs really want their nendos

For those who missed when it was first posted, this is the return of the space cowboy
>inter-planetary good vibe zone
with the much beloved fan favourite
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH
chart (while the anon of the tallies doesn't finish his stuff so I can tag along, looking at you, dwarf >>103155778 (You))

The usual comments

>1) Hololive (the Japanese branch)
Stuck on high gear, impossible to catch, impossible to comment. Their new normal FLOOR is at the highest levels they got in 2021-2023.

>2) HoloEN
Unfortunate events pushed them to their highest point since the 2020 algo change and now they're returning to a very high "normal" ahead of the
8k line

>3) Hololive DEV_IS
They're have their ups and downs and more or less found their comfort zone around the 5k line

>4) Nijisanji (the Japanese branch)
With Koshien over they likely found their highest point of the year, the second in a row they fail to beat the 5k line despite some of their mid of ranks livers to have some unexpected robotic help

>5) VSPO
After a middle of the year explosive ascent and an all time high they're on their way back below the 4k line.

>6) HoloID
Also having a good mid of the year and currently pushing back in the direction of the 3k line

>7) NijiEN
An absolutely explosive ascent starting in March, powered by the finest Portuguese engines with a performance fit for a king.
All of that failed to push them ahead of the 3k line and now they're quickly moving in the direction of the 1.5k line

and the punchline
>8) StarsEN
Even the strongest engine in the world can't push a plane up if there is only one of them, despite briefly crossing the 1k line they're right back at a downward trajectory in the 3 views direction

(no zako chart this time, need some time to rework the dataset of the small corpos)

>>103246967
Zen had always been mentally unstable but it's very likely Ironmouse ran off with a lot of the money and support Vshojo was supposed to spread equally to everyone I can see how the former members would be resentful of her.

>>103246967
no seriously who the fuck is arielle???

>>103247040
is it okay to say that i word now?
few months ago it was bannable offense

>>103246967
Who is the friend he isn't fine with this bitch being around? My guess is that there is some beef between Zen and some vshojo members and that will probably culminate into him being the second scapegoat after gunrun

I miss Nimi...

>>103247048
And here is a one off, more to come in the weekend
>NINETY (90) DAYS MEDIAN AND TRUE AVERAGE, KRONII (POST CCVID)
She fell from a VERY HIGH perch with her average going as high as 8.6k in the end of July 2023 then
>FOR WHATEVER REASON OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS POST
her average took a MASSIVE tumble in the last quarter of 2022, bounced back slightly at the start of 2023 then trended down down down up until September 2024 and only recently started recovering in an impressive ascent up until her average broke her POST CCVID high in May this year.

>>103246994
ok, yeah she's posting gurame lewds on there

>>103247066
Ironmouse.

>>103247048
Thank you chart anon

>>103247051
1.5k average twitch ligger with a blonde bimbo/gyaru model

Wait what? Big cat means big noombers?

>>103247078
That explains a lot

>>103247066
Wouldn't be surprised
It's gaslight central over there

>>103247066
It's hard to call the CEO and founder of a company that was knowingly pursuing illegal actions with his full knowledge and direction a "scapegoat".

>>103247048
Can you add the avengers to this chart?

my pc crashed when trying that kusoge knight game saba played wtf

>>103247048
>HoloEN is as popular as they've ever been ignoring debut and graduation tour periods
>Fags in this thread will still claim they're dead

>>103247116
Retard.

https://x.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1953729903503061241
Hajime is better dancer than Bae, I don't make the rules

>>103247106
He is very obviously not the only one to blame even if he himself is guilty

Someone post that femPebble Prime from Japan

>>103247137
Uh oh. Nimimelty.

>>103247048
Good work anon and welcome back again
Here have some Chiha

>>103247048
Nta but if you do >>103247107 only add official saba confirmed members (as of right now only dooby, which doesn't stream on youtube) I think there's no point in adding them now due to that

>>103247107
It would make for too small of a "gen" or "branch" and end up completely dominated by whoever of the girls put the most hours.

>>103247143
Kiara is easily the best dancer

>>103247089
she has the biggest tweet for now, sure is something
titties buff

>>103247160
Whatever happened to Flowglow? I didn't hear much about them after like a month and people stopped doomposting about the gray one or whining that they hired ex idols

>>103247106
Nobody rules alone

>>103247048
What's the fucking point of this when it's all botted from top to bottom. You can't even say HoloJP is clean when you have people like Watame getting hit near daily

>>103247176
Hajime>Bae>Laplus>some others>Kiara>everyone else

>>103247179
She's unironically probably the fittest in Justice which means probably the best dancer?

>>103247072
Kronii .... whatever happened in Feb this year to justify her ascent?
She's mostly untouched by the engine, no?

>>103247089
Sex buff

>>103247184
Everyone except Riona will get 500k faster than Cecilia. Also Su will be the top of her gen soon.

>>103247106
ironmouse was the face of the company, a close friend to management, talked to them regularly and even had the ceo in her home
You literally cannot spend every day for 4 years saying how close you are to the ceo and how everything is transparent and then pretend that "actually i didnt know shit" the second things go wrong

>>103247144
>>103247191
Look up the definition of scapegoat. Someone who is guilty and especially the most guilty person in a given scenario cannot be a scapegoat.

>>103247208
>She's mostly untouched by the engine, no?
No? What the fuck are you talking about. She was one of the first to get hit, and got raided with bots frequently. But also she streams so little that it's skewed

>>103247192
That's too philosophical of a question, life is mostly pointless except for the meaning you give to it.
Think about it, this chart memorialises the events in each period of its tracking, if there is any anomaly now it will show up just like when CCVID hit.
I don't any particular member of a branch alone can affect the trend for the most part either, like demonstrated in the past with the "unsharked", "unbraided" and "unkobo'd" versions of the chart. The trend for HoloJP seems to be the same as usual

>>103247124
she's an adult, right?

>>103247237
Come up with a better word then, doesn't change the fact that he is not the only one even if those whores want it to look that way.

>>103247192
Which other holoJP besides Watame gets hit near daily?

Just finished watching Biboo's MW2 stream. Her aim is getting good, she's actually getting some headshots in now. If she keeps this up she might become good enough to try out Ranked in like Apex or something

>>103247234
the founding members all pretending they were kept in the dark is just some bullshit all their fans are eating up

>>103246893
fuck you for posting this I gotta work in the morning but now I'm locked into this shit, (sidenote it's fun to see holo skins from time to time)

>>103247312
since when do you have to be good to play ranked, I've seen people with worse aim then a blind person on that game

>>103247325
hahahaha enjoy

Why are holos not playing Battlefield 6

>>103247048
March was the start of the engine since you can see NijiEN inclined hard.
HoloEN masked it with Graduations but March was also the start of it.
So overall NijiEN is useless since almost all are botted while for HoloEN maybe make a seperate graph without Biboo and Mori since they are the most botted for holoEN like the no Gura EN graph before.
I can still see HoloEN in the 6-7k range even without the bots this month since events like justice3D etc.

>>103247274
nta
but
fall guy?

>>103247365
they are not really fps gamers, maybe in some time if they put up a group and play it together
But solo? I find it hard to believe

I’m surprised it performs a lot worse than Justice’s song.

>>103247376
holy... a white femruffian?!

>>103247318
That's not just it, it was not just the founding members
>although Projekt Melody being married to the COO should ring major bells
>and Projekt Melody being married to the COO WHICH LEFT THE COMPANY IN MAY (IIRC) should ring even more massive bells
but think about it: kson was not being paid since September 2024 and yet claimed absolute surprise in July 2025

>>103247392
this whole vshojo thing is just so fake

>>103247385
https://x.com/peachduckay/status/1953310790355952024
there a couple of femruffians in the vancouver con

>>103247392
kson was supposedly not getting paid but was still taking on sponsorships and shilling it?
That is the one thing that doesn't make sense to me, I wouldn't believe if you told me kson was working for free without making a fuss the millisecond the checks don't clear or don't arrive
The VShojo girls 100% KNEW what was going on, they decided to stay silence to try to let GunRun fix things but he failed
Now he's taking the fall alone but the girls knew

>>103247378
crazy that holoen only ever have ame as an fps gamer after 5 gens

>>103247392
So where is the money? It is very, very interesting that no one of the talents is asking that question, if it was me I would press gunrun every day for answers.

>>103247460
it went into parties and useless ads

>>103247460
>So where is the money?
Nah, that part is well explained in the leaked investor slides. He got a 11M influx of money back in 2022 and was losing 3 to 4 million per year. It doesn't take a genius to realise that, after he ran out of runway, he had to either
>disclose the situation and lay the staff off and release the girls
>find someone willing to invest more money, throwing good money after bad
Instead he just crashed the plane with no survivors

>>103247479
Who are they

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
>MALE GOLD TODAY
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>103247479
cute boy on the left

>>103247520
Nah, Niji male 3D debut today, expect 150k people to show up out of nowhere

>>103247541
>niji male
that's a woman..

>>103247448
moomer…
if only she doesn’t get motion sick…

>>103247440
they went hard on talent freedom
acknowledging the problems early on would be admitting they were wrong.
And nobody wants to be guilty to themselves

>>103247460
At saba and nimi husband

>>103247365
Yagoo said new EN gen will be fps streamer on twitch and they will collab with homos

>>103247448
i know a cute 2view who good at fps and has experience organizing events before, maybe Cover could hire her. But yeah, it's extremely hard to be an fps chuuba without male collab, because solo queue is hell and other good female fps chuubas are very rare that you have no choice but to play with males to rank up

>>103247480
What the fuck?

>>103246893
They should play Minecraft Pokemon mod

>>103247637
nigger cuckposting the fanbase before the fanbase even exist

>>103247480
is that pebble?

>>103247662
i'm fine with male collabs, just not a homo collab

>>103247662
that's why Yagoo wants it
yet another vector to push holopro

>>103247704
We know napling

>>103247733
don't insult me like that

Isn't it funny that as soon as VShojo starts being mentioned anon IMMEDIATELY retreats to "FPS, Holopro, dubois"
It really makes me think

>>103247754
holoantis are very sensitive, they can't handle the our based banter

>>103247662
Hard pass. I don’t want EN Aki. Endless collabs with ecelebs and almost zero solo streams.

>>103247440
iirc her explanation was that in her contract there's a clause that says that if she complains then they won't pay her the money she's owed.

>>103247783
>TALENT FREEDOM
>cons: none
>if you complain we won’t pay you
>kson fell for this
She’s lying

No guest in Towa 3D?

>>103247779
Isn't fps male oriented? Holostars should join

>>103247812
caveman anon... check her profile...

>>103247779
I don't think Aki homocollabed that often
she spent more time with celebs and nijis
what Cover wants is specifically a team player

>>103247783
>in her contract there's a clause that says that if she complains then they won't pay her the money she's owed.
She advertised "TALENT FREEDOM", "CONS: Nothing" from the millisecond she signed with them.
She also COUNTERSIGNALLED THE FUCK out of the three girls that left VShojo on contract issues, even mockingly defying the market to make her a better contract offer which she would accept
>for a MILLION dollars
Either she's a pathological liar and there was no such thing in her contract or she willingly fucked a lot of people over because if her contract was that black why the fuck was she pushing so hard about how good it was?

>>103247783
Evidently she didn't get paid anyway

>>103247831
why don't they?

>>103247863
they are garbage at it

>>103247727
you can't push holopro when most homos are dogshit at fps and Astel hate EN homo

>>103247781
Wheres indonesia live viewing? They literally have a branch there

>>103247878
Is there a thing they AREN'T garbage at?

>>103247889
leeching

>>103247863
They’re faggots. A little bit of toxicity would make them crash out. It would be an embarrassment

>>103247846
It could be that her first contract was actually good (in the leaks Vshojo basically admitted that their initial contracts were too good and unsustainable) and her subsequent contracts were terrible and she already had a sunk cost fallacy going.
As for the last part, that's something a shit ton of people are criticizing her, she let a bunch of girls get trapped by a black company while happily promoting them.

>>103247883
>>103247878
when has that ever stopped Cover
No price is too great for Dubai

>>103247899
>>103247863
>>103247831
they're more woman than the women in holol

The main job of homos is to sexpest any upcoming female vtubers that are getting tractions i.e. Phaseconnect and the single mother one

>>103247970
Fuck off, we don't need them to do that

>>103247911
>and her subsequent contracts were terrible and she already had a sunk cost fallacy going.
That surely doesn’t look like kson, a girl that complained about anything and everything during her Hololive tenure

>>103247987
She was allowed to complain in hololive

>>103247898
still lose against Mint

>>103247970
that's retarded. The ones to catch flak will be the girls when not if something goes wrong.

>>103247987
>Cover is scared of upsetting the girls, will bend over backwards if challenged
>Vshojo threatens to bury you in lawsuits if you even hint at anything going wrong

>homemade kfc
kino stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE

would you take a minecraft/roblox youtuber for EN5

>>103248147
probably yes, but not a minecraft/roblox tryharder
just a casual just enjoyers

>>103248147
Sure, why not? EN need their own Pekora too

>>103247192
it's better to have visualized data than not to have it

>>103248016
>>103248062
Or maybe she just liked VShojo's environment better so she didn't see a need to complain about minor matters.

>>103248205
Yeah that worked out so well

>>103248205
vshojo's environment sure sounds very good!

>>103248205
She didn't complain when she wasn't paid for 10 months

>>103248205
Yeah I too see my employer not paying me for more than 6 months as a minor issue

Praise be to Mori

how do you not notice MONTHS of missing paychecks? was she getting paid in literal pennies?

>>103248147
Yes. Iroha tried the MC shorts meta and got pretty good numbers from it, she knows her market

Someone's upset again

is this real?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5ORI_6CqCVE

>>103248314
LOL, wtf you're right. This is too cute
https://youtube.com/shorts/H865XlidT-c

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD6f_6w2q7g
https://poal.me/hdswfo
https://poal.me/hdswfo

>>103248375
retard you missed one gap
delete, redo and repent

>>103248432
kek

>>103248432
nice reddit meme

What's the gold for today anontachi

>>103248419
so if the oversea market is 30% I can easily see the US being like 20%?
not bad

>>103248375
you missed the most possible gap retard

>>103248307
I feel like at this point all the talents want to bury everything
We haven't heard any lawsuit or court date 2 weeks in
No ex employee coming out with receipt even though they got pay cut for months
Their merch manufacturers are pretty silent
Its way too clean for a shoddy operation

>>103248205
>minor matters.
Mate, if I wasn't getting paid even for a millisecond while the company owner was creating a backpack that got instantly obsoleted by Starlink I wouldn't call that a "minor matter", that would be THE SEVENTH FUCKIN TRUMPET and I would be looking for a new job right then and there

>>103248494
>I feel like at this point all the talents want to bury everything
It's funny that even the girls disclosing "we didn't get paid" and GunRun going "lol, money was disappeared, including the charity one" those girls are not raising any fuss
It stinks to high heaven

>>103248528
how do you do fellow hololive stans!

>>103248557
lol

>>103248528
>Infuluencers

>>103248250
>>103248262
>>103248501
It is if they're only not paying you merch money because they take a whopping ZERO percent from everything else, they're not like nip agencies that start at 50% across the board and go higher on top of not letting you own your IP and controlling what you can stream

>>103248494
They are starting to turn on each other so i guess something is still smoldering

>>103248565
japenis preazu understando

>>103248557
A better translation would be "fanboying / fangirling" but stan works

MORE ACRYLIC STANDS!

>>103248419
>0 investment in the western scene
>continually fucks over their talents
>completely fucked up mythmania possibilities
>wasted an entire year in 2022
>forces talents to waste 1-2 months every year just because they don't want to make a studio outside of japan
>STILL 30% of income
As if we needed more proof that proper investment in holoen would've paid itself back 10 fold but "mi mi mi studio otuside of japan would be too expensive!"

>>103248565
>Flatulencers

>>103248557
>Showa era memtion
Is this for boomers?

>>103248574
You vill not be paid by vshojo and you vill be happy

future of hololive is grim

>>103248604
>forces talents to waste 1-2 months every year just because they don't want to make a studio outside of japan
this wouldn't change much desu, the position of the studio wouldn't change the lack of stream during recording season

>>103248374
Godalu...
Godalu...
Godalu...

>>103248646
holoASS and homos might DIE for real this time

>>103248630
At least VShojo didn't fumble the biggest EN vtuber on YouTube and a billion yen company's foray into the western scene by refusing to invest in an american studio and doing nothing but fucking them over, or sell out to investors by going public

>>103248574
>It is if they're only not paying you merch money
Anon, it is not that they are not paying you merch money because they said they wouldn't pay you merch money.
It is that they were not paying merch money THEY OWED the talent while, at the same time, not even putting their fucking birthday merch in production
>after receiving money from the fans for the pre orders
It was not a minor issue and it has nothing to do with other companies, local or Japanese
It was outright fraud and, if I might, it was also another instance of
>REAL "TALENT FREEDOM" HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED
which is just a variation of the original "real communism has never been tried"; with the idea of putting the means of production in the hands of the workers and valuing the rest of the chain (management, supervision, financing) at zero will always fail.
The only way to incentivise a big group of people to move in unison is to make sure everybody is getting paid. VShojo failed even that low hurdle

>>103248646
newfag

don't really like the sound of that whatever that may mean

>>103248586
That's definitely a criticism that could easily be levied to Niji with their cookie cutter merch but Hololive has a whole lot more variety and some products so in demand
>like Mio's jacket
they ended up coerced into reissuing it with very little chance of making a big profit just because fans wanted it

>>103248660
Yeah beacuse vshojo fumbled every single talent they had signed on, even those who didn't even debut yet

>>103248669
That's corpo speak for "with the number of layers between top management and "factory line" workers increasing we will try not to become a black company"

>>103248669
they are just saying that since they are an established big corpo they are required to not fuck up socially, in order to gain and maintain other's trust

>>103248633
it would help not having to spend 28hours in a plane in and out, and also by not having to cram all recordings of a year in 1-2 trips to japan, thus tiring talents out faster and also adding a barrier of "entry" to any project that you might want to do
Want to record a 3d live concert? Better prepare to make an extra trip to japan. Don't want to go there just to record a silly project? You now have to wait to accumulate other things to do there in a burst thus delaying timelines that are often quite strict (liek birthdays and so on having a timelimit)
It's just shit, and there's no reason for it. It's probably pointless now, with more talents that live in jp and a slight slowdown in growth there as well as more talents = each talent is individually worth less than it was before, but there REALLY wasn't any reason to not invest before, especially considering that the reason some talents left were probably strongly related to that too

>>103248660
Vshojo fumbled their entire corpo and killed western vtubing

>>103248633
You should not expect retards to understand geography

full article here

https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/694

>>103248669
>more perms requirements
>more sponsorship shilling
>more corpo bootlicking
And people think this business model is better for the talents than VShojo's? DYRBI?

>>103248713
>but there REALLY wasn't any reason to not invest before, especially considering that the reason some talents left were probably strongly related to that too
When you say "before" you mean when there were only the 5 myth girls, or late 2021 when there were 11 of them?

>>103246967
Zentraya might actually be a woman because that's some of the most high school girl shit I've ever heard

>>103248733
holokeks are doomed!

>>103248660
>it’s just another holoseethe
Mask off. Is this another phasefag?

>>103248733
kek you're so retarded and mad you fag

>>103248733
>And people think this business model is better for the talents than VShojo's? DYRBI?
Well, from what I can see, there talent at Hololive are not just getting paid, but handsomely too.

>>103248658
holoass ripped ass all over cover's return on investments..

>>103248733
>Not paying the talents at all is better for the talents than paying them well
Sure thing anon

>>103248733
>people
History has deemed vshojo model to be a failure. You can seethe at reality but it's not gonna change you lost.

>>103248776
But at least they have talent freedom(limited)

>>103248737
For the studio stuff, they should've started working on it early 2021
I am not saying they should've been prescient enough to know even before myth debuted that it'd be worth it, but as they are hiring council and they see the success of myth they should've started building stuff out becasue they knew more girls would join in and they'd be from that zone of the world as well
There were all the reasons narratively to do that too, from the chink spergout, to the relatively smaller success of jp5
Again they didn't need to build a billion dollar studio for en, just something that 2-3 years later would allow them to not have to go to japan if they want to record some smaller project for instance

>>103248733
>making money is... Le bad
Lol
Lmao

>>103248743
>Mask off. Is this another phasefag?
I wouldn't put past it being that fag from yesterday (>>103236810)
>rip hololive.
>with sana leaving on the 31st and two ex-hololive money machines jumping ship to join vshojo, they’re really getting their ass kicked this month, and vshojo’s getting nothing but W.
and then
>#holoTEMPUS is going to work extra hard if they want to keep hololive relevant, but knowing holostar’s luck. i HIGHLY doubt it…

When people dug he was
>filipino
>phasefag
>vshojo shill
>niji shill
>dramafag defender
>troon sympathizer (or one himself)
>holo anti
Pretty much the whole bingo card

>>103248755
They also have to waste time flying to Japan annually to stay in a retardedly backwards foreign country stuck in the 90s without any of the amenities Americans are accustomed to, and spend hours non-stop recording for the latest shill concert instead of being able to just kick back and stream at home like all streamers should be able to do.

>>103248713
>>103248791

Nigga the EN girls are from all over the fucking world and even some of the NA girls would have to make a stay to whenever your hypothetical studio would be
Do you understand geography

>>103248733
the business model of vshojo caused vshojo to be shut down and potentially led to criminal action
the business model of hololive is creating millions in revenue

>>103248669
I think they're trying to say "yes we know we're based around what's probably a fad medium but we wanna find ways to diversify and persist, so you can trust us to not completely tank your portfolios if a downturn comes"

AAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE
HE KNEW

>>103248797
Idol company negro, seethe about it.

>>103248791
even phase connect go to japan for 3d

kek!

>>103248796
I posted the link on the thread and wanted to say that I found this guy on Reddit when he was shitting on Hololive and someone posted his Twitter kek

>>103248733
>The holos make millions of dollars
>this is somehow bad for the talents
Lmao. Are you a commie?

>>103248799
That's why cover should have either built two studios, one on each coast, or only hired texans, dumbfuck. Them being retarded is no excuse.

>>103248797
Kiara Austria
Ina canada
Mori living in japan
Wow 2 whole talents in america

>>103248818
>2023
Holy Holo intern kek

>>103248831
AHAHAH!

>>103248831
>built two studios, one on each coast, or only hired texans
kek what a stupid silly nigger
def a phasetranny

Kronii has been showing her tits a lot more than usual

>>103248791
>Again they didn't need to build a billion dollar studio for en, just something that 2-3 years later would allow them to not have to go to japan if they want to record some smaller project for instance
I'll indulge in good faith, this has track been beaten many times but it's better than the usual time loops.

Assume cost is not an issue (yet), where in North America would you put the studio so it would benefit both Myth (with one girl living in Japan, one in Japan then Austria and 3 in two different coasts), IRyS (living in Japan) and Council (one in Australia, four in North America likely in different coasts).
The conversation about the cost and quality will come down the line but, the low hanging fruit: where would you build it?

>>103248835 (me)
Forgor kiara lived in japan back then too

>>103248733
"the company being alive" is good for the talents if it can "pay assloads of money to talents" for participating in their activites

vshojo wouldn't know how either of those things worked so no, they weren't good for the talents. they can promise everything they want but if you just give away your shirt and never get it back, that's no way to run a company. it sounds like literally millions of dollars were owed to their girls which probably won't ever materialize. like, dude. that's like vantablack.

>>103248853
California so the same shitposters would whine about Cover getting califonicated instead

>>103248859
Fucking charity theft coupled with wage theft, that's not even "black company" behaviour, that's "Enron-tier federal indictment" level of malice

>>103248797
>have to fly to japan every year
>makes millions
Thousand times better compared to being in the indie scene. Too much trash that will fuck you over for a little bit of clout

>>103247448
Biboo has potential tbf

> Watch a streamer do a Zelda speedrun.
> Stop watching because Fwmc's stream is starting.
> Go back to the speedrun, the streamer breaks the world record
What a day

>30k shilling food
Punichi

Phase cock travel to japan for 3d recordings 4-8 phase cock have 3D not all
why not in CANADA or U.S?
sorry for my bad english

>>103248896
>>103248896
you forgot
>sell your soul and listen to the company on what you can or cannot stream

>>103248909
lmao
good post

>>103248831
ICover should actively involved in splitting them to two faction:
1.Idol: move to Japan
2.Streamer:remain in CoO

>>103248885
That would almost be the worst case scenario considering how many of them live north and east (let alone the cost)
If I were to suggest a location in good faith (as I don't believe they should build one in North America at all) I would say
>Vancouver
Good tax structure, close enough to a significant amount of the girls, not as expensive as the usual US alternatives

from 2023, inclined noticeably from then

>>103248823
>>103248909
>t. retard comparing a small coffee company to a multi-million dollar megacorp
Different resources, retard

>>103247727
>Yagoo is pushing for more fps content as part of his new plan to reach the twitch audience
>all part of the new vector to push more HoloPro
>Bijou suddenly focusing on more fps games
Oh no...

>>103248941
why even join phase then? If all they have to offer is coffee? They even take 50% just like cover

It will always be funny to me that an ad read for Miko is a very popular stream for anyone else.

>>103248941
>Different resources, retard
why sakana travel to japan instead rent studio in canada or u.s?

>>103248936
Yeah, bots help.

>>103248941
Ah, I thought you were the number one in the EN sphere, but that was another lie

>>103248986
cope!

>>103248936
Baldur's gate III arc was all the way back in 2023? damn it feels like just a few months ago

>muh US studio
>myth 2 US, 1 canadian, 2 in japan
>councilRyS 2 aussies, 2 US, 1 canadian, 1 in japan
>all of it during the pandemic

more kino from the past

I maintain, this makes no fucking sense
>K9Kuro confirms that VShojo only paid him LAST MONTH for Merch from his Debut.
>His Debut was 2 Years ago.
then
>"u guys remember when i debuted in 2023, i sold a bunch of merch, like the shirt, acrylic stand.. my debut merch in 2023."
>"I got paid for that IN JUNE 11TH. THIS YEAR. i got paid for that merch two years ago, LAST MONTH. that is a fact. maiko helped."
This does not make any sense, if ALL of them were getting swindled, how come they are all feigning surprise at the turn of events?

>>103249061
What the fuck is that model? Ugly as fuck. Typical for ironic weebs I guess

Why are we pretending that with the amount of money Cover wasted on homos and holoearth they couldn't have built multiple small 3D studios in multiple countries?

>shilling stream of some sort of onions
>30k
Goddess of vtubing

>>103249061
he look tin diet ?

>>103248633
b-but not if they bought out 20 different studios around the world, r-right? that would mean all of them could walk to the studio from home, r-right?

>>103249091(me)
Fck my autocorrect. I'm so sorry I'm out

>>103249061
yea something smells really bad about all of this

So this is the roster for First Army, 2nd Army, and whatever the fuck is 3rd Army eh

>>103249038
People are retarded. They really think EN means US when it never has. They also think the US is a single small town that everyone lives in. Holomems in HoloJP have often left their homes and families behind (hence its such a big deal whenever they have to travel out to the country or their family travels to visit them) but at least in the case of Japan it's one obvious city to live in and they have good public transport. In the US the big cities are nowhere even close to each other and there's no efficient way to travel between them, and you're fucked if you live anywhere normal.

>>103249084
even vshojo 11M+ cant build a single 3D studio

>>103249061
seems like Vshojo makes money by holding and reinvesting their talent merch money. That is the only logical way that makes sense. Maybe they put it on Bitcoin, deposit, or bonds

>>103248713
You are not asking for a single studio, that's everything you claim to hate and wouldn't be solved no matter where you put it unless it was in an apartment building they all lived in. You are saying Cover should have built a studio in each one of their homes and a teleportation device so each of them could have whatever guests they wanted in their home.

>>103249115
they act like the fans would be the one using the studio LOL (most EN fans are from the US, not the talents)

>>103247376
Whoooo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPVSCNepSE

>a shilling stream on podium
Mikoti..

>>103249121
Maybe they learn from nijien director/staffs and spend it all on cryptocoin lol.

>>103249114
the devilish diva...

Speaking of US based 3D studios, did you know Nimi and Dooby's 3D concert was supported by Brave Group?

>>103249115
>pretending the US doesn't have a world class train system in most cities
>pretending having to fly 15 timezones is worse than just hopping over 2 timezones at worst
Disingenuous

TOP KEK, in hindsight Hololive was SERIOUSLY living rent free in this dude’s head. All the way back

>>103249167
>>103249157
jill's favorite!

>>103246893
Having watched (most) of this (it's been fun), there's really not enough people even if it was a full hololive event, even if it was mandatory attendance.

Ohhh sheesh later virgins I'm FRIENDS with Biboo now I get to sniff her pits all I want!

>>103248799
>Nigga the EN girls are from all over the fucking world
myth + council had 80% of members in america or canada
>different parts of america
Beyond the travel time being lower and having different transportation options than just plane, it's still easier and less stresful to live or visit the same country you live in then fucking get a visa to japan and speak a different language and deal with everything being different there

>>103249175
oh......

>>103249175
>supported by Brave Group
No, they just got paid to use their gear. Oshi Live is specifically a mocap studio.

>>103249175
I love independent* vtubers

>>103249197
>80%
>>103249038
retard, massive retard

>>103249183
Very pagpagpilled. Flips are a mistake and shouldnt have an internet access.

Even Miko shilling shoyu get 30k viewers

>>103249208
>they were not supported by brave!
>follows up by confirming they were support by brave

>>103249208
what do you mean

>>103249175
What about it? You're not even told what studios holomems have to outsource to because the main studio is swamped 24/7.

>>103249061
I'm guessing that debut merch is a special case
Or maybe kuro is so dumb that he needs this maiko person to point that out

>>103249242
You don't know what "supported by" means you fucking idiot. It was hired work. They were "supported by" oshispark.

>>103248853
Yes it wouldnt benefit mori or kiara or sana but it'd benefit the entire rest of myth and council to have a closerby 3d studio
Again i really dont understand the argument of "nah its better to just have 1 studio for literally everyone in japan (a notoriously annoying country to stay long term in and visit and that has a different language and culture than either america or canada) instead of having an additional studio for the other 70% of myth and council"
You can argue about costs or whatever the fuck, but saying that "nah itd be worse" is beyond retarded

>>103249114
is this with bots

>>103249178
I'm going to assume in good faith you are retarded and not a troll. The Americans in Hololive didn't like to leave where they live, including within the US. Public transport is about getting between the cities, in Japan you can get anywhere in the country efficiently with public transport if necessary. No flights needed to visit family. For it to be an advantage that the studio is just across the country rather than a different country, it requires that they be taking ten times as many flights because they are constantly flying to the studio and then back home. Otherwise they are going through all the same problems of traveling and living somewhere that is not there home for a while. The only difference is it's not even somewhere exotic but just some shithole they purposely opt not to live in despite being a citizen.

>>103249259
>I'm guessing that debut merch is a special case
>Or maybe kuro is so dumb
Anon? I'll assume you woke from a coma, it was not just Kuro, lots of the vshojo chicks (including nazuna) disclosed not getting paid. It was not a "special case", it was VShojo's business model

>>103249175
oh so its the mint shadow agent shit all over again

>>103249175
damn

>>103249212
lets see myth and council
not in japan or europe or australia:
>gura
>ame
>ina
>bae
>kronii
>mumei
>fauna
In japan, europe or australia
>sana
>mori
>kiara
So yeah sorry about the slight miscount its actually 70% of talents not being in jp, its fine though, since western is only 30% of your income and 70% of those members would benefit from the additional studio, its totally not worth it

>>103249268
What magical benefits would it give them? For anything that mattered like these 3D debuts for example, they'd still have to go to Japan. Unless you just want VR chat 3D where nobody is actually in the same room, that really seems to be preferable to you at which point why you pretend to care about vtubers is a mystery.

>>103249259
they all said they >realized they werent getting paid just now, despite also saying they werent getting paid since last year

>using a studio that is known for working with vtubers suddenly means you're a shadow member of the corp that built the studio
Are you actually listening to yourselves
Was Mumei a shadow member of whatever outside mocap studio she used for her graduation

>>103249268
>a notoriously annoying country to stay long term in and visit and that has a different language and culture than either america or canada
Just cause you hate Japan doesn't means the girls do too nigger.

>>103249312
>Bae
You've never watched HoloEN at all. US and Canada are also not a single country and had heavily restricted borders.

>>103249242
Yes, they used a service that they paid for, retard. What even is this angle? When did Brave become Hololive's archenemy now? Are you asshurt about literally anything and everything? Could you be more pathetic?

>>103249268
>You can argue about costs or whatever the fuck, but saying that "nah itd be worse" is beyond retarded
You are building a strawman, people arent' saying "it would be worse", they are saying "the steep cost doesn't justify the benefit OR solve the underlying issue".
It is not just Mori, Kiara and Sana that wouldn't benefit, IRyS and Bae wouldn't either. From the initial 11 from Myth and Promise that's almost half which would have the exact same problem, except in the direction of the opposite cardinal point.

>>103249175
"indie"

>>103249175
Independent* vtubers

>>103244198 (OP)
Recent Clip Numbers
>>103019930
>>103019939
>>103019960

>>103249312
>not in japan or europe or australia:
>bae
For fuck sake
Also
>& IRyS

>>103249312
>not in japan or europe or australia:
>bae
actual spazztic faggot
also don't fucking act like there isn't more distance between los angeles and NYC than there is between the left coast and japan
or that canada isn't a different country that would have them still fly, leave their homes, and stay for an extended period of time in another country.
total bufoon

>>103249208
kill yourself retard

>>103249330
A lot of the quitters definitely hated Japan or at least felt it had nothing left to offer them after their first stay, but most of them had fun getting to do things they never could otherwise. Mumei and Ina for example see Japan as more of a hanging out with people thing and Mumei intends to keep going back.

>>103249315
3d lives?
Any small skits that they might be interested in doing that'd be too difficult to justify flying to japan to do?
Their holofes contribution? (its just 1 solo song and then usually a group song with other en members)
Anything else that never ended up happening because it'd be impossible to do organizationally so the ideas just stayed as ideas and we never heard about them?

Reminder that if you use the roads, you're supported by the government of that country. By playing CoD, Biboo was supported by the US Department of Defense in fact.

Do any of you actually look at the Oshi Live website or do you think that they literally had to go to Brave Group and beg to use their studio when it's literally a fucking service you have to pay for

The only boy I watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FbpwMb78U

>>103249284
Except going to Japan means you need to adjust to an entirely different timezone, shithead.

>>103249330
Maybe you should hear some of what Faunahad to say about her """wonderful""" experience in Japan

>>103249208
>they just got paid to use their gear
>>103249339
>they used a service that they paid for,
Anon?

Also: Brave modus operandi is to create a partnership then merge outright. That what was they did with Idol, Neo-Porte and, more recently, Isigye.
Being in close partnership with Brave Group so far has a big track record of being outright "merged into".

>>103249114
Biboo is mid 3rd army at best

>>103249175
fucking Brave of all things, really?? and saptrannies have the audacity to complain anything about hololive, kek

>>103249382
Shut the fuck up.

>>103249381
>Maybe you should hear some of what Faunahad to say about her """wonderful""" experience in Japan
No i'd rather listen to my oshi on that one chief.

>>103249293
why is a kaniki there

>>103249337
>>103249360
t. non-American last SEAmurai that doesn't realize that US-Canada travel is one of the easiest and most convenient in the world

>>103249360
>>103249337
>>103249356
my bad i don't watch homocollabers, i thought she was a leaf
Also its still easier to go from canada to america than to the fucking japan

Hot Sexy WOMAN on the telly!
https://youtu.be/I4FbpwMb78U
https://youtu.be/I4FbpwMb78U
https://youtu.be/I4FbpwMb78U

Is Brave Group some sort of hidden power within vtubing? They have their hands over almost everything now

>>103249375
lol
https://youtu.be/Rv4fk3yDi-Q

>>103249381
>Except going to Japan means you need to adjust to an entirely different timezone, shithead.
Yeah, unlike for Bae, IRyS, Kiara, Mori and Sana, going to North America would timewarp them straight into the same timezone they left.

One of the worst attempt of trolling I've ever seen

>>103249340
What steep cost? Do you think building and hiring staff for a couple of small 3D studios in the US is going to cost more than the amount they have already thrown into the holoearth black hole with no returns to show for it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihjI7nC3kU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihjI7nC3kU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihjI7nC3kU
non-boy 3D Live

>>103249408
wherever there is a loli, there is a kaniki

>>103249183
What is with flips having hololive living rent free and it is not just 1 or 2, it practically everyone of them.

>>103244198 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>79,136: Miko (Hololive)
>49,124: Rena (Nijisanji)
>40,239: Subaru (Hololive)
>37,389: Marine (Hololive)
>36,691: Korone (Hololive)
>36,514: Watame (Hololive)
>29,247: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,039: Toya (Nijisanji)
>26,038: Ririca (Indie)
>25,797: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,747: Chiroru (Indie)
>24,919: Flare (Hololive)
>23,376: Moka (VSPO)
>20,731: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,091: Kanae (Indie)
>16,986: Bijou (Hololive)
>15,075: Kronii (Hololive)
>14,987: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,384: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,835: Pekora (Hololive)
>13,349: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,252: Jurard (Holostars)
>12,792: AZKi (Hololive)
>12,309: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>11,817: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,510: Kokage (VSPO)
>11,284: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,864: Botan (Hololive)
>10,765: Vivi (Hololive)
>10,732: Nimi (Indie)
>10,362: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,054: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

Loving sex with Twaapi

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MALE

>>103249411
>>103249412

You're still taking a plane, to go in a foreign country, leaving your home to stay there to record for an extended period of time. less time to get there don't mean shit.

>>103249382
This isn't a partnership. Oshi Live SPECIFICALLY SELLS MOCAP STUDIO USE. It is its entire thing. They lend it out to anyone who would fucking pay to use it.

>>103249428
VRC quality

>>103249312
>70% of those members would benefit from the additional studio
At the upkeep cost of 700%.
End of the day EN is just not making them money to justify giving them their own studio in one of the most expensive countries in the world. Not to mention EOPs keep chanting they don't want idol shit and only like streamer whores. Sure there are a handful of EOP fans that think otherwise, but the exceptions are not the rule.

>>103249386
kys brazilianschizo

>>103249375
Dooby also offers to be a paid consultant for 3D shit and events lol, that must mean she gets a lot of requests!

>>103249114
Miko is God Tier

>oh my god, a Sakuna stream
>it's a mengen
https://youtu.be/Ij_x7F8uqVk

>>103249370
But you don't want them to have to participate in HoloFes at all. And all fans would mock them relentlessly as they currently do. There are members who participate in HoloFes without going to Japan, they are always obvious since the real members do in-person signings at the venue and share stories about each other. Why the fuck would they pay all the money for these imagined small things you can't even imagine what they are. They have home 3D. A studio is for big projects, with guests and shit. Having a studio in your backyard doesn't matter if all the guests are somewhere else. Then it's just a way to throw money in a burning dumpster because you thought doing things in your home studio wasn't wasteful enough.

>>103249442
AUG 2025 GOLD
>1) 84,513: Miko (hololive) 7th anniversary totsu + announcements [19]
>2) 93,817: Miko (hololive) 7th anniversary Miko Expert Championship [29]
>3) 74,948: Miko (hololive) gifts from holomem [37]
>4) 85,596: Miko (hololive) holo smash bros weakest tourney pairing [27]
>5) 98,678: Miko (hololive) MikoSuba puzzle [30]
>6) 143,949: Miko (hololive) holo smash bros weakest tourney [31]
>7) 79,136: Miko (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
7x: hololive

> PER STREAMER
7x: Miko

>>103249415
>hidden
They're very overt about their acquisitions, it's not hidden at all

>>103249434
>What steep cost?
Here is an employment tip: GunRun is looking for someone with the same mindset as his, money is no problem and there is no big enough cost!
Check with him because his COO stepped down recently

>>103249312
>>103249460
2 shades of massive retards.

https://youtu.be/4XojVqihboU
>Naruto watchalong

>>103249340
why the fuck are you counting irys in there?
Irys was not hired or meant to be a normal talent at the beginning, yes now she is but if we're talking about 2021 shit don't talk as if she was a normal talent then
She was pretty much just a fucking jp vocaloid that could say words in english and she was hired for that specific purpose, with THE HIGHEST PRIORITY out of everyone else in en in terms of studio access, of course she wouldn't benefit from the studio, she was hired because she WAS in japan in the first place

>>103249441
It is the culture they want to destroy

What's with these mega grim Twapper numbers, I thought she'd be one of those getting some 80k

>>103249280
Yes. Just ignore the EN numbers.

>>103249452
In the same timezone give or take 3 hours at worst, not the same.

>>103249436
I'm watching tower but have fun with this one anon

>>103249476
AUG 2025 SILVER
>1) 55,990: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>2) 57,434: Elizabeth (hololive) 3D SHOWCASE
>3) 57,929: Laplus (hololive) ASMR offcollab w/ Nerissa + FUWAMOCO
>4) 37,042: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari taisou
>5) 64,501: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>6) 53,414: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>7) 49,124: Rena (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
3x: indie
3x: hololive
1x: nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
3x: Chiroru
1x: Elizabeth, Laplus, Pekora, Rena

i got a big towa futa folder

>>103249460
>End of the day EN is just not making them money to justify giving them their own studio i
so 30% of income isn't enough for a small studio, while some indies can set up some dingy shit barely functional for 3d stuff but they can by themselves
Naruhodo! hololive is going bankrupt soon

>>103249491
You don't think this is getting over 80k?

>>103249175
When they get bought?

BOT WALL PIERCED AGAIN
HOLOLIVE WINS AGAIN VS THE PUTRID FUJO BOTS

>>103249381
The timezone you live in says nothing about when you are awake as many of the girls showed themselves, such as living in your personal timezone but being awake at completely different times than you. Half the time people complained about not being awake, it was at times that most people in their country were awake. A lot of JP's sleep in the morning or afternoon.