Thread 103248115

Cinnamouse Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Don't be retarded

Image source: https://x.com/saraemiii_EN/status/1953576891702452385

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>103242622

>>103248115 (OP)
Can we swap zen with ari?

make this merch

>>103248115 (OP)
need Chinamouse

>>103248153
It should have been me

>>103247498
I dare you to watch Mika cooking videos and say this again

>>103248180 (me)
EVIL WOMAN fuck

>>103248156
Cheongsam mouse would be diamonds

>>103248190
yeah, the Michi is a genius rrat doesn't survive any amount of scrutiny

WE LOVE EVIL WOMEN

>ari inserts herself in the Michi-Numi-Tonkie conversation
sasuga professional leech

Team Evil needs it's own divegrass team at this point

>>103248222
I can accept saying Purple Yuri is a bit
I can not accept saying the girl is "VERY smart"

>>103248253
YES WE DO

yeah Ari i am sure Zen was the controlling one here.

>>103248253
Ari is a good girl.

Oh my god bro, come on.

>>103248253
EVIL WOMAN

Mei and Ari are friends again? What the fuck did Zen do?

>>103248270
That would be fun. At least three players would be MikeNeko though

>>103248350
she Lelouch'd herself

Zen unleashed this shrieking leech demon upon us. This is her fault.

>>103248127
He's a rich winner and vsj will see the impotently forever about that

>>103248368
Well Zen tried to stop her tbf.
She just executed it very poorly.

>>103248369
you really can't make me jealous of a crackhead. it'd be easier to make me feel bad for MTD

>>103248253
models hot but knowing the girl irl is 300lb is gross

>>103248369
>rich
>lives in a shithole
lol
lmao

>>103248274
Ok sorry,
She has some very smart friends, does this change much if we're talking about character anyway?

>>103248408
>knowing

>ari ruins yet another stream
i don't care if zen is in the wrong get ari out already

>>103248408
>the girl irl is 300lb
I will now watch Ari

>>103248408
haruka is fat too and I still love her

>Geega didn't go on GTA after stream
>No activity on twitter or discord
Is she fixing this mess??

>>103248350
Are they really?

>>103248411
Shitholes keep being shitholes since there are no taxes to de-shitify them.

>>103248485
They follow eachother again

>>103248488
i was talking about his place in specific

Ari joined the call? I will now watch Michi

>>103248477
No geegafag, geega isn't gonna fix every single issue..

I do not envy arisperg. He's been trying so hard for so many months to make her the satan, and all his seething and impotent crying was demolished within a week. Poor fucker, hope he survives this.

>>103248508
Once she becomes a mouse regular you wil crawl to him and beg for mercy

>>103248445
Zen was a hero, we just couldn't see it

>>103248527
Why? She is good in collabs, as long as moose isn't there. I'll be fine.

>>103248508
To be fair, I don't anyone expected Zen to call out Ari this week and somehow manage to lose poorly

>>103248408
Has there been a dox of ari or a clip saying she's large? Cause I've never actually seen any actual evidence of this but it seems to be repeated a lot

>>103248508
NTA but I've never liked Ari, avoided every stream she was on, will continue to and feel more justified than ever
Anyway Peke live for Minecraft

>>103248575
Don’t use Peke for your shitposting, gecko

>>103248575
Based, knew the jp bros had good taste

>>103248508
fuck the sperg, ari sucks

Peke live btw

>>103248575
>>103248602
Pathetic samefagging

>>103248127
It's crazy how there are only like a couple of dozen different characters in the world. You would easily never run into one of these guys before the internet, but now almost anyone has seen multiple idiots who think they're master manipulators or sociopaths or whatever and talk and act just like this.

>>103248542
Actually you know what, youre good. Just avoid ari collabs with moose and zen, and make sure to avoid mata and hime too because they can also be a bit loud and intense. Also its a good idea to avoid froot and mel while youre at it. Avoid mouse and michi too. Also avoid henya and ama, and of course the JPs.

>>103248600
I don't even folow Zen. She collabed with Ari too much.

>>103248619
pathetic fagfagging

Ari isnt blonde irl, if she'd like about her hair colour what else could she be lying about

>>103248534
Can you explain what's wrong with Ari except leeching which is stupid since every vtuber does this? Somehow I'm ok with both of them.

yeah i am not buying this whole shit. zen is a menhara, but i cannot see her trying to control other people. was it stupid to call her out like that? yes it was, but i think Ari is just dumb or manipulating the narrative aswell.

Why wasnt Haruka playing final fantasy with Nagazz and Ari for the last few weeks?

>>103248672
Wow the sperg knows how to edit. Do you want a pat on the back?

>>103248638
I will if you rope yourself right now, retard

>>103248697
Probably cause she's been on the ledge cause vshojo imploded etc?

>>103248697
Yeah, the only thing Zen did wrong is making that discord post, definitely nothing else ever.

So what's up with Mouse and Henya not interacting with Zen at all?

Someone clip what Michi just said about Ari.

>>103248701
If I could edit that fast I'd expect a pat, a gold star and a blowjob. It's normal to find people who don't like ari if you wander outside your discord.
Just go back and you won't have to confront reality anymore.

>>103248697
I could not see VShojo doing what they did to the girls and charity behind the scenes, yet here we are. You don’t know how Zen is like off stream.

>>103248697
If it was just between Ari and Zen it would be one thing.
But odds are it looks like the person Zen had an issue with Ari collabing with is Mouse. Zen also may not be in a great relationship with Henya either right now.
If it's Zen vs Ari/Mouse/Henya then things look really bad for Zen unless she has a really good reason for not liking Mouse.

notnaz is also live
https://www.twitch.tv/nekoko88

>>103248801
>>103248770
>>103248741
why are you so mad about someone saying something contradictory

>>103248732
ironic, same could be said about people sperging about Mel

>>103248697
I could 100% see her being controlling. She’s someone who did a suicidebaiting stream the day after posting to all her fans that she and Ari parted ways. That’s manipulative behavior, even if she’s not fully aware of it.

>>103248817
Watching this stream might unironically be better for my mental health than this thread at this point

I'm worried for Zen. I really hope Mei doesn't turn on her.

>>103248697
Shut up, you're just supposed to endlessly speculate and gossip

>>103248839
yeah thats just you coming up with to conclusions to fit a narrative

>>103248847
Watching pretty much any stream is better than this thread the last few days but I'm going with peke

Why does that guy think that there is only one person who dislikes Ari?

why would you argue about stupid things when you could look at a picture of kson?

>>103248839
Yes, an intoxicated cry for help is manipulative in some sense I suppose

>>103248825
>why are you so mad
Why are you so mad that you’re projecting and incapable of addressing any of their points?

>>103248891
A lot of vtuber fans are delusional. For proof just go ask a holofag if his oshi is a virgin.

>>103248912
because your having a melty about someone coming up with a diffrent conclusion than your own. and i dont want to have a conversation with some faggot who argues in bad faith all the time

As someone who doesn't watch either Zen or Ari and has only seen a fragment of this drama, can anyone explain it to me?

>>103248915
gigi is a super virgin , that is not a delusion

>>103248741
What if it's just because Mouse at this point mostly does soulles strategic collabs trying to save / kill corpo kegacy and Henya has her own autistic vibe? Zen's huge control freak and her collabs require chaos level you've been crying about months ago. She's not evil tho, as far as we know nobody except herself was physically harmed in the process. Hopefully she'll find a new targets to fulfill her 'thing' and we'll just forget this drama as another Zen episode

>>103248902
Why look at a picture when I could play a game with her in it?

>fresh Geega tweet
>still no acknowledgement of her best friend's breakdown

>>103248938
Ari played nightreign without zen one time

>>103248963
hope Mike is holding up well

>>103248963
Geega's best friend is Nucky

>>103248958
Zen is not a control freak, she is just very menhara ( like all latina) and thought that Ari was just using her for clout and it blew up in her face. its a nothing burger

>>103248938
Basically unity is dead and everyone is pointing fingers trying to figure out who did it.

>>103248881
No, it’s taking observation of manipulative behavior that Zen displays during her menhera meltdowns, even if it’s not something she’s fully cognizant of

>>103248911
It is. She’s an adult who chose to stream herself doomposting to thousands of viewers who are saviorfags for her the day after she publicly announced no longer being friends with Ari

>>103248963
Geega and Zen are not friends.

>click on michis stream
>hear the prime leech voice in there
is michi's subathon the worst we've ever had of all the former vsj girls?

>>103248938
Ari has a bad habit of social climbing. Zen is insecure and when she got used as a stepping stone she started making demands from Ari instead of just ignoring the bitch.

>>103248938
depends on how much context you are missing

>>103248937
You’re a retard, got it

>>103248956
god, i would love to disprove this but i don't want to catch a ban

Zen should be ashamed of himself, he's not a femboy he used to be, he is an old man now, acting like a spoiled teenage girl is ridiculous.

>>103249016
close it asap, her leechiness might rub off you

>>103249016
Nah Michi's subathon has sufficiently good moments. I think Mata's one might be the worst.

>>103249003
>No, it’s taking observation of manipulative behavior that Zen displays during her menhera meltdowns, even if it’s not something she’s fully cognizant of
that is you 100% coming to your own conclusions and thinking they are what really happened. again your arguments are in bad faith

>>103249016
I watched almost an entire minute of her subathon and can confirm it's the absolute worst.

>>103249048
>has sufficiently good moments
such as? i feel like the only good parts were the first two days

>>103249016
Every day of michi subathon retroactively improves the state of zen subathon. Give me a thousand papamutt rants over ten minutes of mono and ari fighting to be the main character.

>>103249016
no? ari is barely even there most of the time

>>103249048
>zenathon
this is comeing from a gecko
Matas was alright

>>103249024
I've seen the Discord messages and the Nightreign thing, and that something is going on with Mouse/Henya and Zen.

>>103248963
>he still thinks vtuber friendships are real
LMAO

>>103249062
All the Numi parts.

>>103249066
yeah but mono is there most of the time instead

Reeks of tourists in /here/ by the way, engage with caution.

>>103249027
oh so i am right, good to know

>>103249075
okay sure the tarot/group therapy session was fun but i feel like most of it has been modcast filler or mono screaming loudly in the voice chat (or both)

>>103249050
Okay, feel free to continue denying the observable reality and live in your fantasy world

>>103249070
Zen had a stream where she drank five malt beverages and said she missed her mom, and then heavenly told her to go eat food and end the stream early. Ari had a stream where she cried and said zen is a manipulative controller.

>>103249070
there is a pattern of Zen fumbling her connections since around christmas, Ari went live because she didn't engage with Zen for weeks, and suddenly was namedropped as not a friend of hers anymore. Rest is rrats that have no or very loose receipts

>>103249099
yeah anon, that is me, the one who throws a melty every time someone says contradictory to your own conclusions. again you act in bad faith

>>103249086
Right about what? You’re incapable of defending your position and just claim people are mad if they disagree with you.

>>103249063
I may have been too harsh on papamutt I have to admit

Any amount of Purple Yuri automatically gaps Zen's shitass subathon.

>>103249142
right about you acting in bad faith. you threw a melty because someone came up with a diffrent conclusion that you did. you keep trying to debate, but as i said before, i am not interested in having a conversation with someone who acts in bad faith

>>103249093
Honestly modcast has been mostly fine (outside of the obvious exceptions), its background noise and there are the occasional visits from +s to brighten it up for a bit.

>>103249147
i like his ghost hunting streams

Everything is so fake. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised considering this is vtubing. I’m over it all.

Arguing over which subathon is worse is pointless because pretty much every subathon sucks (except Mouse's 1st subathon, that was good)

>>103249077
Yeah, he's like 98% uptime during both subathon AND modcast fragments probably on some worse shit than allegedly insomniac overdosed Michi herself. Maybe we'll have Mono hiatus soon when he'll run out of it...

>>103249198
Agreed, I don't think I'm SEA enough to enjoy Michi's

>>103249191
My only real issues with the Modcast are when it extends past just being the "Michi is away/Michi just woke up and needs to chat a bit" thing and they become the whole stream. Otherwise it's whatever, just fodder if someone doesn't have anything better to watch when she's asleep

>>103249194
Did you finally realize the "Vshojo ruined the relationships between the girls, not the girls themselves!" was nothing but a cope?

Holy fuck imagine if Mouse did a subathon this year. Shuddering at the thought of the amount of time Ari would be on there.

>>103249194
take the 2view pill

>>103249177
Acting in bad faith is posting something like this >>103248697 and then claiming people are mad when they provide points that refute your position.

>>103249229
Every 2view i touch dies, i couldnt take it any more

>>103249077
i got to admit, i only watch the react, numi, or collab parts, so this subathon has been good in my view, i just skip the parts i don't like

>>103249219
Few of them were ok when Mono was autistically producing something silently and they discussed some stuff

>>103249225
why wouldn't best friends spend a lot of time together :)

>>103249256
stop posting them here

matara hate

>>103249277
I dont, this thread is for my beloved 3views like fraiki. They are hearty and strong to survive the winter.

Is Michi's or Mouse's TTS more annoying?

>>103249248
that is coming up with a diffrent conclusion than your own. again you only are getting mad that someone came up with something else than you had in your head. and are proceeding to have a melty about it because i dont want to have the conversation with you , because once again you are acting in bad faith

>>103249305
Henya's

>>103249225
On the bright side though now that VShojo is dead any future Mouse subathon will not restricted by them anymore. That's more potential people in general

WHY SO MUCH PEAK??? FUCK THAT GAME

>>103249305
michi has been surprisingly tolerable these days

matara love

>next few days are non-stop Michi-Ari collabs
>and a lot of Peak

>>103249326
I stopped watching most streams because all it's been is peak and umamusume

>>103249305
Mouse, but I have GDQ PTSD so every pitybait TTS slowly starts to melt into "greets from germany, my moms boyfriend died of throat cancer, lets save the animals! Hoyyype!"

>>103249344
how will zen react to henya-mouse-michi-ari peak?

>>103249355
The reaction will be a lot more entertaining than the peak collab itself

>>103249353
uma musume is a lot more bearable because it's a single player game and the streamer eventually just uses as a background game to yap over

>>103249353
I'd take Umamusume over PEAK, I actually enjoy that more

>>103249374
yesterday peak with ollie was really funny

>>103249355
hopefully by going live and admitting her brainworms are holding her back

You would think vtubers would at least rotate through all the various friendslop games instead of beating one to death every few months

>>103249326
Peak is only enjoyable to watch when the streamer is funny, in this case...

>>103249377
I watched Mori play it and she actually read the story which was really fun

>>103249309
Acting in bad faith = providing explanations for why you disagree with an opinion
Acting in good faith = claiming anyone who disagrees with your opinion is throwing a melty and refusing to engage in reasonable discussion

>>103249433
yeah really providing explanations here

>>103248741
>>103248741

love you geegs

hate you geegs

>>103249405
Asking a variety gamer to milk content responsibly is like asking a primative hunter-gatherer to milk cows for sustainance. You will come back in a month to see the half-rotting corpses of a dozen part-eaten cattle.

>>103249433
what do you want a cookie? what part of do you not understand that we are not having this conversation? fuck off already

Zen deserves the best.

so only ironmouse is allowed to be a controlling bitch that doesn't seem fair

>>103249519
casket money can buy!

>>103249219
Maybe it's indie thing but those chat parts feel more 'real' than scheduled mandatory event things like 'rating profile pics' or 'playing shilled /csg/gacha game of the week for 4 hours(tm)' or 'react farming'
>>103249353
This
>>103249344
Well, we still have the part OUTSIDE the scheduled part like long random yapping part e.t.c.
>>103249326
>xVSJ
>Why {Nintendo-style shit}
Apparently audience LOVES that

>Mouse-Silver relationship breaks
>Mouse-Nyan relationship breaks
>Mouse-Zen relationship breaks
notice how the common denominator is Mouse

>>103249483
Funny how you didn’t include the other ones that you claimed were mad and just quoted the same one twice.

>>103249513
Consider not starting a conversation if you don’t want people responding it.

>>103249547
weener

>>103249561
>>103249547

>>103249561
Well shes still friends with henya so mouse is good
>i cant believe henya was bad, at least mouse is still friends with shylily

>>103249561
Nyan forgave Mouse and is now talking to her again
Why can't Zen do the same?

>>103249561
>Zen-Mouse relationship breaks
>Zen-Henya relationship breaks
>Zen-Ari relationship breaks
notice how the common denominator is Zen

>>103249595
Silver talked with Zen, but she didn't talk with Mouse
Vei also didn't talk with Mouse

>>103249601
Zen is perfect and only makes correct decisions.

>>103249605
>Vei hasn't talked with either of them yet
So Vei is the tiebreaker...

>>103249601
because all three relationships are connected to Mouse,
if this
>Zen-Mouse relationship breaks
didn't happen, then these
>Zen-Henya relationship breaks
>Zen-Ari relationship breaks
wouldn't have happened

>>103249595
The bare minimum of polite communication after 2 years isnt exactly the win you think it is

>>103249631
didn't Vei reply to Zen's post when she left Vshojo?

Why can't the funny cartoon women I like just get along....
:(

>>103249595
lmao, cmon buddy
we both know that it was all Aethel's doing, without him they still wouldn't be talking at all

>>103249689
>women
there is your problem

>>103249643
You can't expect a relationship to rebuild overnight, and it's gone farther along than most other attempts of bridge rebuilding between the girls

It's nice seeing Michi and Ari collab while Mei happily laughs along in chat. Zen really fucked up by being a menhera manipulator.

do you think zen still is in the burn book server?

>>103249701
When will Kuro and Aethel collab?

>>103249699
So what you're saying is Zen needs a boyfriend to force her to make amends with the other girls?
I'm free to volunteer if no one else wants to

>>103249758
godspeed anon, just steer clear of sharp pointy objects

All I'm saying is, Mouse talking up the famoly and then ghosting them is not a new thing

>>103249742
>Kuro and Aethel collab?
Based. Fuck all these lying toxic whores.
Add my nigga Heavenly too in the collab.

Mouse is a fucking bitch and should disappear.

All I'm saying is, Geega owes me passionate blowie

>>103249786
mouse has more important things to do than deal with a menhera

>>103249822
And 2/3rds of Vshojo apparently
I guess she cared more about the company than she did about the talent

why does michi hate amoongus, it's actually goated in doubles

Would Nyan like Mouse's new best friend Arielle?

>>103249843
>yo pink puta work harder or company might go under
funny how that worked out

Odds on how long it would take for Mouse find a new famoly yet again, and discarding her current one?

>>103249853
As a pink cat bro who isn't a fan of Ari, unfortunately I think Nyan would actually get along very well with Ari

tell me last time she used those accursed cards what all did the purple ̶r̶e̶t̶a̶r̶d̶ witch say would happen.

If Zen was willing to suicide bait for pity on stream, imagine how much she would be willing to use emotional blackmail against others behind the scenes? This is the kick in the pants Zen needs to reevaluate how she treats her friends. Hopefully she can learn to become a better person in the future.

With how so many rrats turned out to be true in the last couple months, Mouse ain't safe from that either

>>103249933
>>103249547

We need to humanely disappear Mouse from this mortal plane.

>>103249929
I think Zen is just depressed

>>103249933
rrat: geega is my girlfriend

>>103249964
>When you're in a destroyed friendships competition and you're up against Mouse

MTD working overtime in here I see

>>103249977
Wrong, shes my wife

Mono should join this call.

>>103249976
I think the stress of the last few months broke something in her

you guys like vtubers?

If the fake sickness rrat was real Mouse would be one of the best scam artists this era while raising millions for charity. Modern day Robin hood. They would probably make a movie.

>>103250061
I hate vtubers
I also watch hours of vtuber content everyday

>>103250099
MTD I will not say racial slurs, please stop asking

Imagining irl Geega in a cute sundress

>>103250061
At this point, no.
The ones I like, I like as streamers, in the same way I do flesh streamers.
Vtubing itself is a drama-ridden shithole with the biggest cutthroats in the entire streaming industry.

>>103250068
it is thoughbeit

>>103250145
Fuck off Vei.

>>103249906
IDK about cards shit but that black magic's more probable. From her own words cards are BS but fucking with magic ends tragicly

>>103250168
Sorry for dissing your precious family, yo.

vei is everything wrong with vtubing

>>103250183
rrat: Michi is doing anything in her power to shit up stuff in background, so people believe in her tarot readings

>>103250213
>geega is everything wrong with vtubing
FTFY

>>103250211
You know remember when Vei was making fun of streamers who talk about their "precious family". She was 100% referring to Mouse.

>>103249814
>>103249865
>>103249933
>>103249972
>>103250068
Sniff.. sniff...

>>103250267
Give me more reasons to hate Vei.

>>103250267
I'm assuming that happened the same day as when Haruka proposed to me?

10jin should come to the scamberthon

>>103249300
Why?

Which relationship has a better chance of being revived at this point?
Mouse and Silver Or Mouse and Zen

>>103250409
Hey alright I am also a fan of incest

>>103250243
That's a good rat considering some billionaires believe in that kind of things but she wouldn't publicly admit her failed initiation then

>>103250295
why did he think this was a good id- oh wait the coke

>>103250432
Mouse and my dick

>>103250500
congratulations bbno$

>>103250432
Mouse might unironically have a better chance of mending things with Silver than Zen given the past few days.

>>103250433
I just miss his voice
I think U-san should be on the stream, too

>he will not divide us
MICHI NO DON'T DO IT YOUR CHAT IS GONNA BE WEIRD ABOUT IT

>>103250553
unlikely, since Silver chose Zen over mouse already

>>103250267
She also said some weird shit about reincarnation and cockroaches around the same time Mata debuted. Vei is a great streamer, but a grade A cunt. It's really funny when Nyan says Vei is sweet.

>>103250432
in all seriousness, mouse and silver. silver was a bitch but she wasn't of her own free will controlling to people she was supposed to care about which is something that's a hard boundary for mouse even more than it used to be

Someone should recreate that one Nyan and Zen fan base posting on vsj and replace it with Mouse/Zen fan base shit flinging while Geega's fan base is just geegooning.

geega cute

>>103250566
too late, there is no going back

>>103250591
its so over

>>103250213
this but matara

Could someone post the Froot BakuDeku pic with her in the chair smugly watching?

Michi is getting redpilled

>>103250637
open the archive, nigga

>>103250591
>>103250612
crisis averted

>>103250637
>smugly
she's in the cuck chair

>>103250682
cucks can be smug

>>103250645
michi doesn't want politics on stream

>>103250432
I truly believe that Zen is dead to Mouse. What Zen did is textbook abusive behavior.

>>103250418
Cancels all the streams
Endless vacations
I just want her back streaming regularly at 6pm 3-4 days a week like she was when she debuted but guess that'll never happen
Maybe it's not quite hate but it's definitely annoyance

Needs more ex-nijis on this subathon

>>103250736
Yeah, mouse won't put up with that shit at all

>>103250662
>scroll through a bunch of threads full of sperging over the Zen and Ari situation to find one pic

>>103250736
>>103250758
Zen has a history of apologizing for bad behavior so it's not impossible.

>>103250739
nta but I've had simiar experience with another vtuber. She defaulted to streaming a few times per month now. You either drop them entirely or learn to enjoy their rare appearances. In my case enjoying her content was hard since she obviously stopped caring about the streaming and the fanbase so I just moved on. She's still doing good though.

>>103250740
When's Kuro and Michi Pokemon thing?

>>103250736
Yeah if it's really as bad as it seems, I don't think Mouse would even want to reconnect with Zen.
At least with Silver it has been ages since the whole thing and it could be chalked up to lies and manipulation from VShojo

>>103250796
the pic was posted way before Ari's stream

I hope Ari has opened the floodgates, and all the smaller vtubers who fell victim to Zen's manipulations and emotional blackmail will begin working on their Google Nukeys.

>>103250850
I don't think mouse is in need of collab partners, from a purely working perspective she doesn't need to do anything

>>103250758
Mouse doesn't put up with most of the Vshojo talent for some reason

>>103250682
she's in the voyeur chair

>>103250722
From her stream with mother she mentioned she's not against it but 'if you talk economy / politics but you don't work in it you're full of shit'

>>103250850
>it could be chalked up to lies and manipulation from VShojo
Not really. Silver said that the manipulation from Vshojo started around the wizard game drama forwards.
Silver and Mouse have been distant for months prior to that.

Zen "kidnapping" girls to play whatever she wants isn't so funny now

Why is mouse crabbing Zen on this thread

>>103250961
someone should post the clip of geega being annoyed by zen spam

>>103250930
>Silver said that the manipulation from Vshojo started around the wizard game drama forwards.
No she didn't.

>>103250739
Honestly, travelling has to be the worst kind of hobby to have for friends and family of that person, with how rarely they are around due to constant travelling.

>>103250961
nah I don't think so and I say that as someone who thinks zen is fully at fault here. it really could be just ari she was controlling, it's not fair to her to assume that she does it with others unless others actually come out and say something

>>103250961
Ari farmed that shit for twitter though.

>>103250736
>What Zen did is textbook abusive behavior
Henya's a pretty tolerant person. So for her to drop Zen so decisively, you know Zen did something bad.

>>103250997
Doesn't explain why now Mei and Ari are reconnecting

>>103250997
I'd put money on Henya being the first victim, Ari the second

>>103250990
She never said Vshojo was the reason for her falling out with Mouse
That is this thread's headcanon

>>103250900
I meant reconnecting on a private/personal level, not whether they collab or not. I doubt Mouse ever collabs with either but one of these she might end up hating for life while the other she might be okay with.

>>103250929
that video was clearly in bad faith though

>>103250986
Geega is just mad nobody used the calendar or scheduled anything.

>>103250961
Why did she never kidnap Kuro?

>>103251018
>twitter follow means reconnecting

>>103251018
>>103251024
sure but I don't like the idea of pushing that narrative unless more come forward. you could absolutely be right but dogpiling due to assumptions of a pattern isn't smart

>>103251043
Maybe, but she's protected by her ESL 'I don't know , I don't care, from our perspective US burns for years and I'm scared to fly here'

Are we suddenly just conveniently ignoring the amount of times Heavenly, Papamutt and Bluto appeared on Zen's streams?

>>103250961
Zen loves 2views because she holds their entire career in her hands and she can make them do whatever she wants. Ari was a problem because she got too big and escaped Zen's control by befriending other 4views. Zen couldn't have that and retaliated.

>>103251074
Everyone else will be acting like an adult, you have to work of the hints you're given like follows and collabs

>>103251067
Ari said Hi to Mei on Michi's stream. It's unironically over.

>>103251046
because Kuro sleeps when Zen is awake for streams

>>103251046
You know why

>>103251067
When Ari was on Michi's stream just an hour ago, Mei was in chat and leaving positive comments about what they were chatting about.

I think you’re all blowing this out of proportion

Worst thread on the board.

Here's what I know:
Zen is mentally unstable.
Ari is a leech and used Zen to climb.

>Zen vs Mouse/Henya/Ari
Yeah Zen is cooked
Just facing Mouse alone would have been a losing battle. But Henya too? Ouch

>>103251166
was /lig/ / /swarm/ wiped already? I haven't checked catalog for a month...

>>103251166
/cbdct/ is for zenfags

>>103251189
Yep that sums it up

>>103251166
Sadly no

>>103251189
Mouse has a tendency to ghost people and break relationships that way.

>>103251189
>Ari is a leech and used Zen to climb.

>>103251192
It will get worse when everyone sees Ari having fun with everyone on the new Minecraft server while Zen doesn't even get invited. Even if no one knows or cares about Ari, they'll begin to wonder why all the big vtubers are distancing themselves from Zen over time and why she isn't getting invited to stuff.

>>103251106
Mei seems like a sweet girl.

>>103251264
>haha she is so quirky haha

>>103251126
I’ve seen him collab with Mouse hours past Zen’s usual start time

>>103251264
yandere tier schizo

>>103251282
Seems like a 6 foot 2 guy with a full beard to me

>>103251264
god i wish that were me

>>103251282
Mei is a sweet girl, yes.

>>103251246
Source: Veibae

>>103251302
She has pictures of her body floating around.

Rrats about mouse being a mean girl clique leader are eventually gonna be proven correct, just like most rrats are

>>103251324
And Nyan and Tobs and Ecto

>>103251330
>>103249547

Mousefags turning against Zen like they turned against Silver

>>103251264
Ari posted that pic on twitter to farm it though. She loved it.

geega i want to suck on your tits

>>103251302
met her at offkai chubby, cute face, big tits, fat ass

>>103251356
the history repeats itself

Is this allowed

>>103251320
and she has a cute penis too

Michi is watching a video of some weird guy

>>103251377
I think she lopped it off sadly

>>103251393
I reject this information

the mysterio guy

>>103251373
Silver made me kneel like crazy the past few weeks with how crazily vindicated she's been

>>103251393
She never had one just malformed genitals.

>>103251374
Not the first time she did that. She listened to Finana's song on stream too some months ago. And praised Enna for singing.

>>103251264
>ARI LETS GO PLAY NIGHTREIGN
>ARI WHERE ARE YOU????
>ARE YOU SEEING ANOTHER MAN?
>ARE YOU CHEATING ON ME?
>ARI YOU BITCH YOU USED ME
>ARI I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF IF YOU DON'T REPLY
>I LOVE YOU BABY PLEASE ANSWER <3 <3 <3
>ARI YOU WHORE I KNOW YOU ARE WITH HIM I HATE YOU I HATE YOU
You just know

>>103251377
Are girl penis different than guy penis? Like is the skin softer?

>>103251372
continue

>>103251422
She wore a black dress that showed off her tits, and some dorky big ass boots.

>>103251411
seems like cope but I respect her either way I just like girl cock

Michi peed herself

>>103251463
I'll clean her up

>>103251414
>controlling
>overbearing
>couldn't handle Ari "cheating"
damn that reminds me of something

Breaking news: Michi just peed herself

>>103251264
Post the tweet that Ari made of this.

>>103251356
The craziest part is that they were initially defensive about how zen dared to menhera during a mouse stream, and now they have created a headcanon out of it that zen is secretly out to get mouse.

>>103251414
Ari probably showed the other girls the DMs Zen sent her which is why they're all firmly on her side. She's likely doing Zen a huge service by now leaking them.

>>103251443
>fat ass
>big ass
elaborate please, did it quake?

>>103251416
girl penis goes in my mouth, guy penis goes in my ass

>>103251528
not leaking them*

>>103251528
The Henya shit happened way before and Mouse and Zen had issues way before that

>>103251519
>>103251357
>happens once
haha funny joke
>keeps happening for weeks
oh this bitch is actually crazy

it's that shrimple

>>103251565
Based futa enjoyer

More breaking news: Michi repeated 'I think I peed myself' 3 times already and still didn't proceed to clean up.

>>103251589
It's really not. Ari continued to appear on her streams for a long time after this.

>>103251623
I cleaned it up for her

>>103251581
Ari said the issue with Zen has been going on for a while, probably even before the situation with Mouse

>>103251629
ignore the bad faith guy, he is delusional

>>103251600
That's not at all. FUTA is having both genitalia.

>>103251649
It's delusional to think that behavior would eventually get grating? okay

>>103251264
Dont look

why don't all the girls just sell their pee?

>>103251678
Selling bodily fluids is a crime

Zen is having a multi-month crash out because she wasn't invited to one nightreign collab

>>103251670
so Haruka is a leech and used Mouse to climb? or Mouse is a leech and used Haruka to climb? make your garbage make sense

>>103251623
Streamer diapers, no need to deal with it right away.

>>103251712
Vshojo members abuse/spam discord pings
The end

>>103251665
>Nip in the butt when it starts to get annoying and you don't get invited to many things anymore
>Put up with it to get closer to Mouse and Henya
Ari made a business decision here.

>>103251665
no its delusional to think any of your rrats hold weight

>>103251702
This is probably the worst time to do this shit too. When you're indie people aren't forced to deal with you.

>>103251670
This is workplace bullying.

>>103251526
>about how zen dared to menhera during a mouse stream
lmao, they did that with Silver too

>>103251670
That's based though? I too want my Haruka fix.

>>103251800
Its emotional manipulation and led to less haruka streams because she is under duress.

>>103251815
it didnt

>>103251670
this is based though, Haruka should stream

>>103251491
>>103251623
Clip pleassee
Please

>>103251859
What zen did to ari is also based though

>>103251264
Looks photoshopped made to look like Zen was spamming because all that within secs to make a minute isn't how a phone works

>>103251872
Yes, cancelling that leech is very based. Hope she kills herself.

>>103251264
This doesn't really disprove anything I said. In fact it reinforces it.

>>103251863
just load the vod and scroll back like 10 minutes ago when she was reacting to mysta rias autotuned song getting dmca'd

>>103251914
It shows that Zen was the one who initiated contact and collabs most of the time. It's unfair to call Ari a leech for going along with the kidnappings.

>>103251914
it was a bit anon.

nigga really trying to make a mountain out of an anthill

Tick Tock
Mouses clique is finished, Zen WILL come back with her google dockey and TRASH them all for what they DID

>>103251967
>going along with the kidnapping
Zen ain't a dictator when Ari agreed to it

>>103251995
then Silver will release her google dockey about Mouse

>>103251996
t. has never encountered a long term abusive relationship

ari has been far too parasitic for me to take anything she says seriously.
this situation with mei is much more damaging for zen. if the same thing happens with haruka, it will truly be over.

>>103251967
>look twitter look world, all come look at this time that zen initiated the collab. she loves me so much and our relationship is always just like this
i bet you think vacation selfies are real

>>103252023
>wolves
better keep your whore away from Zen

>>103252035
anon just making shit up

>>103252037
if neither side has any proof, haruka will default to trusting and siding with ari because they're childhood friends. so zen's friendship with haruka is cooked

>>103252037
ultimately mei goes where geega goes.
haruka will remain kinda friends with everyone. splits like this have happened before around her and she never drops anyone.

>>103251996
Yeah I'm not saying there was anything wrong with it assuming both were fine with it.
But calling Ari a leech when Zen was basically begging for collabs is so disingenuous.

>>103252083
>>103252037
Is their any proof Mei is going to ditch Zen? Unless Geega ditches Zen I don't see it happening.

its going to be funny, when zen goes live and apologizes and everyone just moves on like adults, and anons here will have a melt down that there little dopamine hit wasnt not enough

Since you're all so busy schizoing about Ari and Zen, I want to tell you that Michi just finished watching a compilation of 90s music played on piano and felt progressively older as the video went on because she couldn't believe how old these songs were

>Mouse, Henya, Ari, Geega and god knows how many more vtubers stopped interacting with Zen
>Somehow it's only Ari's fault
Surely a mentally unstable alcoholic with more issues than brownies ITT can't do wrong, surely.

>>103252130
Why did you include Geega in this. She was in chat during the meltdown and she was the last person who invited Zen to a game.

What if Zen is MTD?

>>103252115
it's been like two years and anons are still obsessed with 2 sentences silver said
it's not that funny

>>103252130
>Geega and god knows how many more vtubers stopped interacting with Zen
like who anon? or is it just those three ? the only unstable alcoholic is you with your bad faith rrats

It's gunrun's fault. These stupid bitches need lashing to stay in line and keep collabing. Instead he destroyed org and fucked off.

>>103252130
It's kind of creepy how cult-like some anons are when it comes to thinking Zen can do nothing wrong and it must be someone else's fault.

>>103252113
no direct proof on mei ditching zen, but
>months back, mei and ari no longer collab
>mutual unfollow
>mei is questioned by her chat and says that the friendship ended
>nothing really happens because catalog dramafags werent here yet
>after the zen stream, mei follows ari again

>Scamberthon is announced
>VShojo dies
>Scamberthon has begun
>Zen has a big meltdown
I fear what will come when it ends.

>>103252256
this was one of the best collabs in a long time

>>103252256
Hopefully Zen isn't looking at Twitter for her own mental health.

>>103252256
zen has never been more /out/

>>103252237
its crazy how you think that is what it is and not people calling you out for your bad faith rrats. you twist evidence into paint zen as some master manipulator abuser. noone is saying zen is not at fault, they are saying she is having a mental break and fucked up. but you keep trying to paint her as some abuser because you want her to be

>>103252284
this is how we can bring back /in/ posting

>>103252256
Glad I don't watch any of them

>>103252278
i dropped out 10 minutes in when ari started farming "teaching henya about SEX WORDS" clips

>>103252238
Mei never said who ghosted her.

>>103252302
Ari is /in/ the clique. Nyan is a strong contender to re-enter the clique if she wants to

>>103249561
Cant for Snuffy and Mouse in SNIVS. It was pretty clear after Ludwig's house game event they dont talk anymore. They were like polite strangers. Mouse moves on from people that arent Connor all the time and just will not make the time to stay connected with them.

>>103252301
I wouldn't normally think that way, but no normal person would go live and express suicidal tendencies after directly dropping that discord message completely out of the blue weeks after Ari stopped interacting with her. Zen did all of that on purpose and wanted to make it hurt. There's a reason Mouse and Henya are strongly taking Ari's side despite being so close to Zen in the past. Zen isn't a good person.

>>103252364
Mouse ghosting every single SNIVS member is obviously Zen's fault, bro

There's many toggles Geega kept from us https://x.com/OOGA_Studios/status/1953622189854667163

>>103252333
That was Ama's fault.

>>103252433
ama didnt spend the next 2 months driving it into the ground

>>103251264
With current context, this picture is horrifying

>>103252430
evil woman

>>103252443
No, Henya did.

>>103252430
Geega is trying to retcon her cute side.

It's funny to think that Holofags were right. Women DO need supervision, the more oppressive the better, or else they start acting up and drowning in drama. As soon as this pathetic excuse for a company collapsed, things went south (straight to Mexico).

>>103252443
we are all of merch currently, at least watch streams, tourist-kun

>>103252464
but shes always cute

>>103252430
She has never used the flowers toggle a single time.

>>103252390
There is just as much proof to say that ari was manipulating henya and mouse. you cleary have an agenda to paint zen as some abuser when there is no concrete proof to say that.

>>103252504
or the stars in her eyes

>>103252430
Imagine how painful it must be for her to be called cute irl (4'10)

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMtMvSnTgNd/
only a week left to enter this animation contest hosted by mouse and bbno$ get to it

>>103252390
I am beginning to realize that the communities who joined in the past 2 years have never experienced Zentreya before this past few weeks.

>>103252570
She's also 40 years old so it would be weird.

>>103252507
Zen is clearly unstable and obsessed with her relationships with them. She even went out of her way to unfollow Mouse and Henya on Twitch, yet we still caught her hate watching them multiple times. Including when Mouse was debuting her new model and Zen saw her new background before she dropped the discord message. Imagine disliking someone enough that you unfollow them, yet still watch their streams? She can't mentally move on, and the girls are 100% making the right move by distancing themselves from her.

Reminder that Zen stayed for unity when she was heavily considering leaving with the 3. So much so that Silver sighed and said "Oh Zen..."when she chatted during her exit stream. Silver knew.

>>103252477
>Women DO need supervision
x-ray or laser?

>>103252570
i wish people called me cute

>>103252633
Should have left and killed that shit show.

Good morning
We good?

>>103252390
>wanted to make it hurt
Bad faith assumption

>>103252594
what do you mean? I have been in here since 2023

>>103252583
You're telling me Mouse ignores looking at her own fanart for 2 fucking months but miraculously has time to do this. It's starting to get ridiculous how much she sucks this dude off.

>>103252652
you're cute

>>103252674
Mid-2023, right? You have never seen zentreya.

love my mommy

>>103252671
No
It's actually incredibly over

>>103252685
ty anon <3 you too

>>103252706
Henya debut so yeah mid 2023

>>103252675
>starting to

>>103252625
>Zen is clearly unstable and obsessed with her relationships with them.

She is unstable but there is no proof that she is obsessed

>She even went out of her way to unfollow Mouse and Henya on Twitch, yet we still caught her hate watching them multiple times

She is still a vip in mouses chat and a mod on henyas stream. there is no proof that she was hatewatching

>Including when Mouse was debuting her new model and Zen saw her new background before she dropped the discord message. Imagine disliking someone enough that you unfollow them, yet still watch their streams? She can't mentally move on.

Again no proof that is what happend and is your own interpatation of events that you think is true

> and the girls are 100% making the right move by distancing themselves from her.
are they? or are they just hopeing that she gets help and giving her space? because it can be seen as that as well

you clearly have an agenda and are operating in bad faith , please fuck off

>>103252671
morning, been worse. still hillarious that it took just two weeks from implosion for a new Zen oof to drop

>>103249198
Incorrect. All 3 were varying degrees of kino

>>103252625
>yet we still caught her hate watching them multiple times
Anon, if you have to claim she was "hate watching" to justify your argument, you should probably reconsider how reasonable your position is

>>103252698
Froot chose her side. Everyone is turning away from Zen.

>>103252672
Zen's been a content creator for a long time and even the average retard knows exactly how the community would react. When fans see, "I'm no longer friends with this person" into a stream where you act like, "now I want to dies guys :(" your fans will obviously think Arielle caused her to feel that way and will dislike/attack her. Zen intentionally weaponized her community against Ari.

>>103252785
not true

>>103252698
>18s
Froot please groom me to be your deku

>>103252785
i turned my dick towards a picture of zen without clothes on and with giant tits

>>103252729
Yeah. Zen has had multiple attempts, as have most of her community. Zen streams are a sort of anti-suicide help group. Solo peak isnt a cry for attention in the sense that she thinks she can mend the relationship with ari, its her honestly intending to broadcast herself in a punishment stream as an apology to the community and to the world for being a mistake.

>>103252780
I mean she's forcing friends to pick sides and say they can either collab with Mouse/Henya or her. What else would you call it?

>>103252745
>She is still a vip in mouses chat and a mod on henyas stream
They're doing that to taunt Zen, clearly. No other possible explanation.

>>103252780
nta but she wouldn't unfollow someone she has no problems with

>>103252803
except that she and her mods explicatly told everyone to not do that and the only ones that did where obvious false flaggers

>>103252820
she's so cute

>>103252633
Its why I still dont buy some of this and dont think Zen is at fault for whatever happened between her and Mouse. Zen has done nothing but try and be the only source of unity in a dying company for the past few years. All she wants is to spend time with friends and lift them up. She cares probably TOO much about that at this point and its starting to hurt her. How many plans and projects with others has Mouse just silently shelved? How many SotDs have never actually happened? How much time has she put into collabing with the same few people and fleshies that extend her reach? Their priorities are completely at odds with eachother

>>103252827
>I mean she's forcing friends to pick sides and say they can either collab with Mouse/Henya or her
Headcanon

>>103252840
yet she is still a mod in henyas chat and they both still follow each other? also could be a million other reasons.

>>103252880
Aricanon.

>>103252871
too late froot already self posted

>>103252887
Zen unfollowed Henya on twitch

>>103252844
It's literally human nature to do that no matter how much you tell people not to. That just gave her plausible deniability. If she just did the discord message I'd think she was being incredibly dumb, but the suicide bait stream completely destroyed my image of Zen.

>>103252887
Have you considered that Mouse and Henya aren't spiteful bitches that would remove her roles in response to a bitchfit the way Zen unfollowed them?

>>103252887
zen doesn't follow henya. she's still a mod because henya is dealing with other stuff and isn't so petty that she feels the need to immediately unmod and unfollow someone she's no longer friends with.

how much is mel paying zen for this smokescreen?

how it would've been easier if Zen just did a sensible thing, and dmed Ari "yo can we just joinly ask our communities to not bug us about collabs all the time just so we don't have to deal with this anymore". And they did it, said as much as they had to, and everyone would've moved on

>>103252943
It's pretty clear Zen wants this to be an issue. Pretty absurd considering the timing.

>>103252943
Read ari's tweet. They were already in communications and ari wanted it to be silent, no announcement at all.

>>103252803
Or she was just drunk off her ass, said something she regretted (as drunk people are prone to do), and then spiraled further into drunken regret and cope.

>>103252873
the easy answer is that they are both mentally ill latinas in there 30s. shit is only something therapy can fix

>>103252941
Thats where the 500M went

Keep in mind that at least 60% of the drama discussion here isn't genuine and is peddled by certain individuals. You know who.

>>103252932
Mouse literally did just that. The only reason she gave vip back to Zen is because we realized it. Now she'll keep it to make sure we can't use that against her.

>>103252967
what tweet?

looks like cozy wolf wife has a new song thats coming out, sounds like a bit of a victory lap as well

https://twitter.com/_Silvervale_/status/1953584501579559214

>>103252963
Yeah, I don't think Zen is malicious, but in the heat of the moment, that Discord message was pure malice. She realized afterward that she messed up and did that pity stream. Honestly, I hope she goes to therapy she really needs help. I don't care who's right or wrong, Zen needs help

>>103252967
That doesn't really deal with the chatters who go between the both of them suggesting they collab because its been awhile. And given how Ari's community is probably entirely built off Zen, that would happen for awhile because twitch chatters couldn't read a picture book let alone the room

>>103252915
cant be a mod without following on twitch anon

>>103253005
True, Zen can do no wrong and we should all suck her dick no matter how stupid and mental she acts.

I was going to call you all a bunch of retarded gossiping women, but then I remembered I'm on /vt/ and realized should've tempered my expectations

>>103252928
fuck off with your bad faith agenda then

>>103251995
>>103251264

>>103253032
>no mouse
henya knows she be a terrible one

>>103253032
Try to find Henya on Zen's following list, anon.
https://tools.2807.eu/follows?user=zentreya

>>103253042
Zen did fuck up, but you're trying to turn it into something bigger

>>103253061
that was a bit anon

>>103253032
yes you can, you have no idea somehow and just lying

>>103253073
yeah , and she is a mod. what is the issue here?

>>103253081
>but you're trying to turn it into something bigger
Blud is grouping together multiple people

>>103253045
I swear it didn't used to be like this.
Just a temporary infestation of the worst most pathetic dramafags. It'll pass. Surely.

>>103253032
>Sioell
I think it's funny there are still Nyan mods in so many VShojo spaces after all this time, like Roboto was the reddit mod the entire time. Embedded spies. They won.

>>103253073
Still following Nux and Arcadum btw

anons just love making mountains out of mole hills

>>103253009
I do not like it
Silver should stick to ASMR JOIs

okay tourists, you are somehow in this thread and have no idea how twitch works. this is pathetic, at least register and check dashboard before retarding this thread, thanks

>>103253115
What do you mean what is the issue here? She is not following Henya like you said she is.

>>103253063
>anyone saying Zen wasn't a Saint for bringing a hate wave on Ari for discernibly no reason is acting in bad faith
It's okay to admit Zen isn't perfect, and is capable of acting in harmful and destructive ways against others sometimes when she isn't thinking rationally.

>>103253165
but she is a mod. again what is the issue here?

>>103253073
Wendys streams?

>>103253168
Meant for >>103253051

>>103253182
lmao you have to be a troll

>>103253154
you know when the DEA/SEC kick down your door CLB, dont act too surprised at least gun and apek ran while you are just here making yourself look more and more like a petty bitch

>>103253197
nigga you just figuring that out?

>>103252633
I remember that exact moment but never brought it up because I thought I was reading too much into it.

There’s more to this. Zen isn’t some crazy bitch that decided to become an evil woman over night. If that was the case, someone else would’ve called her out years ago

Silver in chat
stream soon

I love michi stream

>>103253210
it's hard to tell when we've got genuine retards here who will blame everyone but zen no matter

>>103253211
like yeah , here is the thing, i dont fully beleive Zen is controlling at all, she is just severally mentally ill and needs help. Like when ari did her stream it was clear that she had no ill will towards zen and wants to see her get better

>>103253005
catalogfags

>>103253211
>Zen isn’t some crazy bitch that decided to become an evil woman over night.
she isn't, neither is Mouse, or Ari, or Henya. Zen is just terminally online, has a good heart, but too much brain damage
geega is now following me by the way, later loosers

>>103253211
Curiously there is someone who was called out years ago. Just as curiously that same person seems to be involved again. Mouse has a lot to answer to.

>>103253236
noone is saying that zen wasnt at fault, but putting everything on her is stupid

>>103253259
Your spelling errors in every reply make you easy to identify

WIFE LIVE

silver live!
thread saved

>>103253259
Sure Ari didn't want ill will towards Zen but she also made it very clear their friendship was unfixable. You don't say something like that lightly.

>>103253316
if your that deep into this , maybe its time to touch some grass anon

>>103253009
I didn't hear the teaser till now and, damn, not bad, not bad at all.

>if you read this you're cute c:
she's talking about me btw

>>103253347
yeah, she was very upset, she is a woman. it could be a year from now and they are right back to how they where, who knows

Sorry guys

>>103253316
Yeah it's Meicha. He's a self poster tranny.

Zenfags circling the wagon and trying to deflect the hate onto Mouse are truly pathetic. So much for the chill drama free fanbase.

>>103253349
>your
>unnecessary space before comma
You really make it easy

>>103253386
FUCK YOU

>>103253386
Beri making me boypregnant

new thread
>>103253415
>>103253415
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>>103253400
>what anon think he looks like

>>103253394
He's gotta go

>>103253433
I wish it was her but she sleeps at this time.

>>103253429
>think instead of thinks
When will you learn

>>103253259
>>103253347
>does the pity baiting 20 min stream where she basically just slandering Zen
>"s-she had ill toward her" (when she clearly and obviously has)
y'all just like sinderfags I stg

>>103253397
>Zenfags
Again with the deflection, arifag. Soz but you're not fooling anyone.

>>103253470
zen is the instigator and ari was defending herself from the mess that zen made. if anyone is acting like sinderfags, it's the geckos who think zen isn't the one at fault here

>>103253317
i dont remember posting this but yes she is.

>>103253542
>zen just posted a nothingburger in her discord
>"she's an instigator"
>ari did a stream where she was slandering the one who she called her kamioshi
>"she was defending herself", "it's the geckos who think zen isn't at fault here"
you're trolling

>>103253397
fake geckos to be des, it's just logfags coming here in droves because their bait there failed, since nobody outside of this thread cares
vshojo exploding had more traction, but that bait had gone stale

>>103253542
>zen is the instigator and ari was defending herself
See, this argument comes from two different angles. Ari was informing the important people, zen was informing the unimportant people. Because for some reason zen is a retard who doesnt get how streaming works, and zen doesnt hate chat like every other streamer. Understand who was perfectly fine blocking zen and telling their in-group to block zen, and then understand who was clearly marking chatters as outsiders who dont deserve to know.

>>103253542
>if anyone is acting like sinderfags
It's you, arifag, It. is. you. You're not doing yourself any favors by trying to shift the blame on to zenfags and Zen, when it's Ari is the one who is at fault. If she did the same thing as Zen, i.e doing a "we're not friends anymore, be respectful and move on" discord post and not fake crying on 20 minute(!) stream trying to garner pity, none of this would've happen.

>>103253672
People are going to argue against this, but the truth of the matter is that in everyone's eyes except zen's, shia and buffpup deserve to know intimiate secrets about zen and aris relationship more than aris chatroom does.

>>103253723
>fake crying on 20 minute(!) stream
vod's right there by the way, at least watch it if you are gonna go around baiting with it

>>103253604
>nothingburger
Who the fuck makes a whole formal ass announcement @everyone about not being friends with someone anymore? Not just that, she pushed it by going live the next day, choosing to down drinks and doompost, making people worried about if she's going to commit suicide. This hurt Ari's reputation and gave ammo to antis to harass Ari, Mouse, etc. It's well within Ari's right to defend and explain herself after Zen is the one who chose to air it out to the public.

>>103253825
>Zen is the one who chose to air it out to the public
>>103253743

>>103253825
and you stiil trying to whitewash Ari and demonize Zen, of course, as if there was any doubt
also, leave Mouse the fuck out of this, she has nothing to do with it

>>103253820
I've been on stream, buddy. Seems like you didn't nor you've watched the VOD.

>>103253920
>leave Mouse the fuck out of this, she has nothing to do with it
Except she's been getting replies from antis about what happened with Zen. That's the mess Zen created. But go ahead and continue whitewashing Zen and demonizing Ari.

>>103253995
sure did hun, stop lying about her crying though

>>103254010
>That's the mess Zen created.
Imagine being so confident and still being wrong. But keep trying to whitewash the one who created the mess and made it worse, i.e Ari, it will definitely change the majority's opinion on her.

>>103254051
>me when I lie on the Internet

>>103254110
at least you've admitted it, good job

>>103254131
>no you
I concede your loss

>>103254151
hi parrot-kun, couldn't tell it was you, rope yourself

>>103251670
>>103251264
why are the latinas crazy bitches, imagine a latina yandere holy fuck

>>103254069
Sorry you can't face reality. Mouse got those replies before Ari said anything. Zen could have moved on with her life like an adult, like how Michi or Henya or Mouse would do, but no, she needed to make it known that she's cut ties with Ari. She couldn't help but go live the very next day and have her viewers see her having a mental breakdown, downing drinks one after the other.

>>103254178
slit your wrists, parrot kun

>>103254254
you take a rope, tie it into a knot, hang it from something taller than you, then stand on a chair, put your neck into that knot, and kick chair away. try and lemme know if anything goes wrong, bud

>>103254246
>but no, she needed to make it known that she's cut ties with Ari.
What are you even saying? we know as a fact that ari has been going around telling people that she was cutting ties with zen, she was just telling other streamers and not chat.

>>103254246
>Sorry you can't face reality
Oh, the irony.
>Mouse got those replies before Ari said anything.
Mouse gets hate on Twitter for simply existing. It's not Zen's fault. Antis just use Zen's discord message as a yet another excuse to hate her (just like you using it as an excuse to demonize Zen and whitewash Ari lmao).

>>103254306
you wrote the instructions, now follow them and kill yourself already, nobody will miss you

>>103254359
fuck, you are one sad sack of shit that can't banter

>>103252745
Trying to control who ari hangs out with on stream is obsessive

>>103254406
no need to talk about yourself in third person, you know

>>103254417
>he's taking ari's bullshit with no proof at face value
You're so easy to fool.

>>103254317
And? Do you think friends are on the same level as thousands of viewers who aren't personally involved in the friend group?
>>103254330
Zen's actions gave more ammo to those antis no matter how hard you try to deny. Now even on Reddit there's people openly speculating about how Mouse is involved in the Zen and Ari situation.

>>103252625
>and the girls are 100% making the right move by distancing themselves from her.
What the fuck is this retarded cope? Mata, Ama, Sansin, Aura, Milky, Chibi, Elly, Fream and lots of other people are supporting her. If anything, girls are distancing themselves from Ari (those who know her; I wonder what Haruka will do, though).